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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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We got Lamar Jackson and Eric DaCosta talking about the
extension with the Baltimore Ravens. We're also going to talk
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(00:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:32):
Just a Friday morning? Is that all it is?

Speaker 1 (01:34):
When you're getting at what are you try getting at?

Speaker 4 (01:37):
I'm just saying we had some big news yesterday. As
soon as we got off the show.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean, what are you getting at?

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I know what you're doing here? You know, how dare you?
But since you're on the topic, it's a football front.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
It juggle him in. Whoa, whoa, that's the.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Book, he continuing where we left off yesterday. Apparently it is, Uh,
it is a football Friday here on two Pros and
a cup of Joe. Don't worry, We've got some other
things we're going to get to later on as well,
to an important day here on the program. Lots to
get to, but we must start with the first public

(02:28):
comments outside of Lamar Jackson sitting in a car with
announcing his decision to want to stay in Baltimore via
Twitter or snapface or whatever social media platform he was on.
But he did speak yesterday to the media about his
new contract. He was even specifically asked about what's with

(02:49):
the new deal now following the trade request about a
month ago. Here was the still Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson yesterday.

Speaker 6 (02:59):
Today, We're going keep about the future. You know, I'm
not really worried about what happened in the past. Gonna
keep it about these next five years and keep it
about you know what's going on today. If you're gonna
represent yourself, you know you got to. You gotta have
a strong mind. I wouldn't say you get out there
and put your feelings in it, because it's not about feelings.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:15):
You can't take things with a oh yeah, I don't
like what you said. I don't agree with this.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
It's like what they feel is how you feel.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
It's it's it's a grown man thing at the end
of the day. So you got to be a grown
man if you're gonna handle out. Don't really like do
this to prove anyone wrong or really care about what
anyone had to say. You know, it's anything I had
to prove myself right, you know, like I know what
I'm doing, and I felt I did the right thing.
I absolutely wanted to get it done because I was
just tired of going back and forth about it.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, it's been doing it for years, you know.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
But it's like, you know, the time that come and
you know, the numbers were right and we was all satisfied.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
So you mean to tell me that even after all
the back and forth and their trade request, none of
it actually mattered because they still ended up getting a
deal done.

Speaker 7 (03:56):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Is that what we're getting at here? So all of
that stuff was just fluff and conversation for media members
and everybody to take a bite out of, but ultimately
it was really just tactics. And a month later, forget
about the trade, not here to talk about it. We're
just here to get a deal done, and I'm happy
to be a Baltimore Raven. All right, So apparently that's
how negotiating goes, all right. I had no idea that

(04:18):
that's how.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
This was always well, first off, I mean, there's not
necessarily a reason for it not to not for everything
that had come out to be calculated by Lamar.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean, that is the glory.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Of today's media and the ability to manipulate it. I mean,
think about just in football terms, and how this negotiation went.
You heard a trade request, You heard all sorts of
different things that were thrown out there. Now, the only
thing we ever heard from Lamar himself was was really
a tweet saying, hey, I had a three year, fully

(04:52):
guaranteed one hundred and thirty three million dollars.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Deal that turned out. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
That's really the one thing I can recall the heat
set up substance that came from him, outside of maybe
some other responses to some.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Things he said on Twitter that he asked for a
trade or was it in March or something like that.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Again, and and all those things, though to that point,
are are just ways of manipulating the masses to be
able to media, to be able to kind of create
this Oh well, maybe.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
He doesn't want to be there. Maybe.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
I mean again, when when you don't have that filter
of an agent, there's good and bad to that if
you want to send a message.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It leaves the.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Team way more in the dark when there's not someone
who's you know, out you know, out there that the
team can contact right away and say, hey, man, why
is your guy saying this or why is you guys
putting this out there publicly?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
You know, these negotiations suposed to be Probably why is
he doing that?

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Because it puts more pressure on the team, right I
mean during the period of ouseason, like he can kind
of be away and do whatever he wants. The team's
the one that's going to have to talk about, you know,
stuff at the combat. They're going to talk about stuff
you know, throughout the draft, you know, meetings and everything else.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Once the draft occurs.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
In free agency, you know, the general manager and the
head coach are going to speak through all of that publicly.
That's just part of the deal. So the player doesn't
necessarily have to unless he wants to. So if you
break down the details of the deal, it's a solid
deal for Lamar. I mean he's got the biggest signing
bonus we've seen. You know, his guarantees likely to be

(06:26):
made in the first really twelve months take it up
to one hundred and fifty eight million, which I know
it's not what Deshaun Watson got, but it's still a
hell of the deal, especially for him because because I
think it blows the Tailor Hurts deal out of the water.
In my opinion, He's gonna get one hundred and eighty
five million essentially in three years. And you know, for

(06:48):
the Hurts deal, like the signing bonus is almost a
third of what Lamar Jackson got, and obviously he got
more in.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Total guarantees at signing two. So it is a good deal.
It took him a while to kind of, I think,
finalize some of it.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
But when you look at the commitment of like where
we are now with the Baltimore ravens Lamar Jackson not
only to him, but all the money that was dult
out to everyone else. I mean, Odell Beckham got a
thirteen million dollars signing bonus. If you look at Zay Flowers,
they're twenty second overall. Pick I don't have the exact figure,
but his signing modus is gonna be somewhere north of

(07:21):
seven million bucks.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
It's gonna be somewhere in that ballpark.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Nelson Aguilar, I think got what two million bucks something
like that in the signing bonus. I mean, you might
as well lump that all on for Steve Bashatti and
everything he did to try to show Lamar that they
wanted him. So in the end, obviously they're all aligned,
they're all in agreement, they're moving forward, and it kind
of reminds you like a family fight. Sometimes, you know,

(07:47):
you love each other. Sometimes you may say some you know,
mean things, hateful things. There may be some knockdown, drag
out fights, but at the end of the day, you know,
you make it work and you move forward together. And
that's how the Baltimore Ravens.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
Are moving forward.

Speaker 8 (08:00):
Yeah, I don't I don't think you have to look
at it as you know, he was disingenuous with with
what he said in his press conference. I mean, in
terms of my interpretation of it, I think he said
exactly what he thought it was, and it was a negotiation,
and you know, rules of engagement have been established through

(08:24):
the years. But that doesn't necessarily mean that that's how
it has to be done, you know. And and things
generally are ultimately destined to evolve moreph in change and
maybe that you know, the point of this this scenario
is it's a very high profile player, is a very

(08:45):
high profile contract negotiation, and there was no way it
wasn't going to play out in the media, whether there
is an agent involved, you know, for for the cartilage
effect or not. And that's you know, that's just the
nature of the business. There's always going to be things

(09:06):
that are said, as you just said cute, they are
always going to be things that are said that are
less than flattering because you want to try to get
the best price and you want to try to get
it the way you want to get it, and on
the other side of it, you want to try to
get the biggest number, and you're going to meet somewhere
in between, like it generally always happens, if both sides

(09:31):
want to get it done. Now, I'll say this, I
wouldn't I would not underestimate that family relationship, that bond
that you just spoke of. I wouldn't underestimate that in
this this scenario. I think that's one hundred percent why
we didn't see an agent get hired. I think it's
one hundred percent reason why Lamar Jackson kind of acted like,

(09:57):
you know, the nephew or the child out and not
saying he handled it as a child. I'm saying to
the Ravens front office, being the parental guides that are
going to issue out the contract to him being the
recipient the benefactor of that contract. He handled things in

(10:19):
a way where it's like, come on, dad, you know,
come on, dad, like give me my allowance. Like and
and sometimes your your parents don't want to give you
that allowance. Sometimes it is going to come with with
you know, stipulations, and it's going to come with taking
time to get it done. And and listen, they didn't
do a fully guaranteed contract, and that was what was

(10:41):
being reported.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
So if his if he was asking for a fully.

Speaker 8 (10:45):
Guaranteed allowance from from from home and from from the
parental figures, they didn't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
They didn't want to go that far with it.

Speaker 8 (10:54):
But in the end, you still wanted that allowance, You
still wanted to get that cash, and that's.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Still your people. And they found the way to make
it work out.

Speaker 8 (11:05):
And I don't devalue the fact that Lamar Jackson actually
meant what he said when he said, you know, his
his statements in the interview.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I thought that it was kind of it was transparent,
to be honest, Like.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
I always just go back to what's the baseline, and
the baseline was those two sides are better off together.
I don't think, and Lamar made a point of it.
I don't think he wanted to leave Baltimore. I don't
think Baltimore wanted to go in another direction at quarterback.
As Brady pointed out, they've committed a lot of money
to surrounding him and making the team better around Lamar Jackson.

(11:40):
Some of that stuff during negotiations was just stuff during negotiations.
It was different because we hadn't actually seen a player
like I don't recall ever remembering a player going to
social media and saying this is what the contract was,
responding to somebody else's tweet or you know, saying, you know,
I've asked for a trade and this is how it goes.
I just think this is the new normal towards the

(12:01):
negotiations that got public and him not having an agent
was just another wrinkle to it. But you just go
back from the beginning. I think we've all been pretty consistent. Yeah,
I mean, ultimately, none of this stuff is gonna matter
when he puts pen to paper, and he put pen
to paper, and as Brady lays it out, if this
is a phenomenal deal for him and if the Ravens
get the guy that they wanted this entire time, I

(12:23):
think everybody walks away happy and you forget about all
the stuff that was said in the meantime.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
And that's what he said. Yeah, I just les's focus
on the future.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I just think it's interesting that there was this thought
that like Steve Bushatti was hesitant, like he kind of
got painted out as all because that Shawn Watson deal.
He doesn't want to you know, he doesn't want to
anty up. And I mean he doled out a lot
of cash, man. I mean you're talking about close to
one hundred million dollars in signing bonus with Lamar included

(12:52):
as well as the wide receivers that he brought on.
I mean, that's that's pretty that's pretty It's a pretty
big financial commitment. And you know, to your quarterback and
stating that like, hey, we want you here, and here's
what we're gonna do to help build out around you.
And that doesn't even include what they spent at Todd
Mounkin as their offensive coordinator as part of this revamped
offense as they head into this year. So, uh, here's

(13:14):
the reality of it. Lamar Jackson is one of the
best quarterbacks in the NFL. He's got now all the tools,
all the things that I think he needs to move
forward with peace of mind knowing that he can go
out there and play and try to play at the
best of his ability to go win a Super Bowl.
And that makes the NFL better. It obviously makes you know,
the Baltimore Ravens better. It's just it's better for fans

(13:35):
and everyone involved. So look, the drama of the offseason
is over in Baltimore. They can just move forward well
less unless that at Tonyo Brown picture he sent out
with him wearing a Baltimore Ravens jersey, unless somehow he
gets involved in the process. Yeah point yeah, then we
might Then that might actually not be the.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Kid like the Ravens come to him and say, oh,
you thought you got one up on us, Welcome to
your new teammate. It's this guy over here who's got
a you know, a an arena league team that's about
to go under because you got players getting in fights
on buses.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Jonas by the way, a little bit of well come
it's you know.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
I mean, man, that man you don't want to talk
about when he threw the gummy bears at his uh,
his babies, or when you know, beat up on the
moving truck.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, I mean you you gon't choose the football team.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Well, I would defend him in that regard. I mean
sometimes he's moving. People are a little bit unforgiving when
it comes to like a piano or something like that.
You don't you don't.

Speaker 8 (14:32):
You don't let him just staking himself out, you know,
or digging himself.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
It works, everybody left.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Like the Feds find out did he dig a tunnel?
Is that? Is that how he was getting in it out?
Did you have a success tunnel?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I don't want to know the truth because I just
want that to be teeth, you know, Yeah, I want
I want. I want to live in a world where
Antonio Brown dug a tunnel underneath his complex to try
and hide out from Feds like some bombers.

Speaker 8 (14:59):
Doesn't have to hide out. He just used it to
be able to get access in out of his house.
You know, he was in the streets and they were
just sitting there waiting.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
They had the car parked out front. He's got a
tunnel that just takes about the thing.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
He pops out of a manhole cover in front of
a Publix and you're like, wait, what happened here? And
then he hops back in and he goes back home. Yeah,
it's an underground tunnel works with that. So can I
ask you a nerdy contract question? When people say because
Brady breaks his stuff down better than anybody, the number
is just confused now loud to me, I'm going to
say it's true, and listen. If I say it's true,

(15:30):
I mean my credibility is always top notch, so that
that shouldn't account for something I've seen. So obviously he
gets the no trade, no tag clause, which is I
would assume another win for Lamar Jackson. When you hear
like Pro Football Talk reporting that it's the highest three
year cash flow in league history, how important is that

(15:51):
to other deals around the league? Because is this now
the comparison? Are player is now going to go to
teams and say I want to higher three year cash flow?
Then than Lamar Jackson or is this a rarity for
this spot, because I think another thing that was pointed
out is that Patrick Mahomes is nowhere even close to
the top ten when it comes to cash flow. So
why is the three year cash flow that important or

(16:13):
that pertinent to the conversation.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Well, it's so different than a one year cash flow, right,
which is your signing bonus, which is you know what
you're going to be making really looking.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
At that first year.

Speaker 4 (16:23):
So that's why if you look at his contract, he's
got one hundred and twelve you know, whate point five
million something like that guaranteed that signing, but a lot
of his options and bonuses become guaranteed in March or
twenty twenty four, and so being able to guarantee those
future portions of the contract help create a lot of

(16:44):
the value that you're referring to.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, it's important, but as far as the contract that.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Everyone's going to try to emulate, at least for a player,
most are still going to look at the Shawn Watson
deal and they're not going to sit there and say like, oh, hey,
the cash flows aren't as much the first three It
doesn't matter that is a guaranteed deal. You are getting
every cent of the two hundred and thirty million dollars.
There's no if, hands or butts about it. So to

(17:11):
me personally, I don't care about a three year cash
flow necessarily because that three year cash flow isn't going
to equate to what's owed to Deshaun Watson in the
entirety of that deal. So no matter what they do,
like let's say at some point in time that Deshaun
Watson contract they look to renegotiate or quote unquote restructure,

(17:33):
there is nothing they can do, Like they owe him
that money. The only thing they could do is slap
on more years at the end of it and be
unless he was willing to give back money, which I
can guarantee you no player is ever going to do that.
So you know, that's still the gold standard of a
deal at this point. The three year cash flow obviously

(17:57):
as compared to most other contracts, increasing that is without
a doubt what you want. I mean, you'd really like
that to be the more likely to be earned or
probable to be earned, is how they phrase it. That's
really what you want to focus on because in that
first much like we talked about in the first year,
even though it's one hundred and twelve point five million guaranteed,
it ramps up to like one hundred and fifty eight

(18:17):
million guaranteed because of the mechanism that kicks in in
March twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know, that amps that up a little bit.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
So you basically say it's it's not one hundred and
fifty eight at signing, but it might as well be
because no one's gonna cut Lamar after the first year
that he's there.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
He's gonna get to Mars twenty.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Twenty four, and then after two season it goes up
to one hundred and eighty five.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Exactly again, So it's I wouldn't look at so much
as cash flow. I'm looking at more as security. In
the first three years of his deal, he's got the
security of one hundred and eighty five million dollars. Like,
that's peace of mind, that's generational wealth.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
It is. It's fantastic for him.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Hey man, not bad for a guy reping himself.

Speaker 8 (18:58):
I was I was trying to get us to break Lee.
I'm sorry, you know, Jonas is just you know, continuing on.
You know, I'm sorry, Lee, Sorry about that we're working
on that, lee though, don't we'll fix the door in
to break.

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Speaker 3 (20:32):
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Speaker 7 (21:14):
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Speaker 1 (21:14):
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There you go.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
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Speaker 3 (21:20):
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Speaker 7 (21:37):
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Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:40):
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some really hip moving Latin songs.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
So we'll be Elvis crisps play today. I'm gonna I
don't know what.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yes, yeah, but Elvis Crispo's Cuban I believe. So it
feels like we got to go Mexican gloom yesterday. Okay?
Are we going all Mexican happy Sinco to myo?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Right? Talking about it? Well, man, could you imagine if
I said that?

Speaker 7 (22:13):
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Speaker 3 (22:14):
I wouldn't be able to get away with that?

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novices out there. So let Berto and I walk you
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favorite loses Game one, they come out and cover with
ease in game two. And it happened again last night.
It was the most predictable thing that the Warriors are
going to come out and blow out the Lakers, and

(23:54):
then it's almost like the first two games of the
series whatever, and then you move on to Game three
and I don't know where it lands with you guys,
But that's my big issue with the NBA playoffs. There
are too many swings, too many blowouts one game and
then all blowout the next, and it just feels like
you can't really take a bite out of anything unless
you get to a Game seven or get to a

(24:15):
real I thought you like, close them out game. I
don't like this singer, No, I mean, I am. I
just don't like the swings in basketball. That's the way
I feel about it.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Jeez. I mean once a swinger, always a swinger, I thought.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Him, Yeah, why.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Pick and choose, just let it, let it go. Just
I mean, you know, I mean, how much of it
to to that? I guess the point you're bringing up,
how much of it has to do with the way
the NBA has played now in more.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
The sense of like Golden State's obviously a team that
really almost kind of started this trend and has has
been able to perfect this trend of just the three
point shooting and shooting in general. I mean, you have it,
you have a hot night, like you're gonna be tough
to beat if you're Golden State. I don't I don't
care who they're going up against, like Steph Curry, Klay Thompson,
all parties involved, Jordan Poole, those guys are if they

(25:01):
are hot from the outside, they're gonna be tough to beat.
Now on an offshooting night, or maybe only one of
those three, or you know, none of those three is
shooting well? All right, Like now you're talking about a
game where I think it's easier for the Lakers to
get more involved, or the Lakers have a hot night
Golden State as an off night.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
I just I wonder how much of it has to
do with.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
The way the game is played in today's game, with
the amount of three point shots that are taken, and
how much that plays more of an impact. And let's
just look at who made more threes and you can
essentially look at that stat alone to decide it that.
I know most people might say that's a no crap stat,
but the reality is that's to me, at least, I

(25:44):
think that's where you see these bigger swings in the game.
It's just it comes down to the overall shooting considering
how much that's played an impact in the way the NBA,
you know, game is played nowadays based on big man.
It's not based on post play. It's not based on
you know, isolation with with stars all the time and
the fourth quarter just going back and forth, backing guys
down or taking them the hoop. It's just it's a

(26:04):
different style of game now and I feel like that
has to play a factor into it.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's almost like, if you know, the Warriors are hot
early on stops, you know what, Yeah, why don't we
just take this one off, let him, let everybody cover,
and then we'll be back game three.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Still start shooting threes where he doesn't even watch it
go in because he knows it's going you know, when
it does that shooting.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
He turns around and starts like, well, I'm like, all right,
let's just I.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
Mean, that's like when you're playing I remember who else
with the Browns. So we we practiced a facility that
was right next to Boldon Wallace, which is a great
D three school.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
They have a good basketball program.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
There b wall and we would go, we would go
like scrimmage and run and run with those guys, and
you like you, i mean, Brailla Edward's con dunk about
any type of dunk you want, just an athletic phenom.
And and it'd be fun to watch all these guys
get in there and like we'd be driving to the hoop,
high flying.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
All the stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
And then you get this group of like old Wallace
players that would just run the court because they'd be
they'd be shooting three, like they'd be shooting like five
feet back from the three point.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Line, just splash, splash, splash.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And like no one wanted to step out on them
because I mean we're working out, practice everything else, and
we're like, all right, he's not gonna hit that, and
now they're shooting, Like from the logo hitting that, We're like, okay,
like this is just but like clearly these guys are
not as good of athletes as as what's on the
court against them, Like we're a part of this, we're
witnessing this. I'm a part of this. But there's just

(27:28):
better shooters. There's nothing you could do about it. Like
it kind of reminds me of that, like witnessing like
a big time advantage as far as the athleticism, but
obviously not.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
In regards to the way these these these dudes could shoot.
So yeah, I'll say this. They were, they were hanging tough.

Speaker 8 (27:45):
Early on, it looked like it was going to be
a game that could go either way. It's just amazing
how it could go so bad in two quarters because
second quarter, in between second and the third quarter, it
was over. Like by the end of the third quarter,
I turned on Angry Birds too with my daughter.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
It's like I don't even need to see the rest
of it.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
It's like not interesting to watch.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
It wasn't interesting going into the fourth quarter. Was it was?
It was certainly not it was definitely the fourth quarter
was like.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
A regular season NBA game, although to start jumping, there
was no I mean, this is a playoff game. This
is what everybody talks about. It's the juiciest matchup in
the second round. And everybody's talking, oh man, Warriors Lakers,
and you're like halfway through the third quarter, going all right,
what's going on in the hockey game? Like it's just
there's no, there's just it's not it's not appealing. And

(28:37):
I don't know if it's Look the number of games,
we can't confirm that, Burdo, make sure they heard that
as well too. I don't know if it's the number
of games in a series that we've talked about before,
if it's just the wave that comes with the Golden.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
State, I mean one that's not surprising Berto, But I
mean too, there was other sports spectrum. Yeah, I mean
the Cats were playing, Yeah, go Cats.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
How about the Maple Leafs finally getting past the first
round and then taking a crap all over themselves at
home the first two games of the series and the
second round.

Speaker 9 (29:12):
Why is it the Maple Leafs taking a crap? Gives
give Bobrovsky some some credit. Duties up, he's like a
wall back there.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, so yeah, there's the there's the breakdown of Lakers
Warriors for everybody that's interested, Go Cats. It is two
pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
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(29:48):
how about Eddie Garcia taking off Siko to Mayo?

Speaker 7 (29:51):
Did you hear why?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (29:55):
It was something Star war Disney related?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Right, have his lightsaber? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yes, no, are you serious?

Speaker 7 (30:03):
That's the rumor going around because of Star Wars? Yeah,
the fourth and.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Yeah, Star Wars is a big thing. If you really
need to it's a big thing.

Speaker 7 (30:14):
He's a grown man.

Speaker 10 (30:15):
Yeah, he did by one hundred dollars saber at Disney
and Disneyland.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Six of them.

Speaker 7 (30:22):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (30:22):
C four po Bobblehead Day at Hot Topic, p little guy?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
What is that for?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Play always on.

Speaker 4 (30:36):
The pulse, my hand on the shaft. Whoever you want
to say about it? Yeah too, where do you get
that from?

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know?

Speaker 7 (30:43):
You just dig up in the archives that again one
more time.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, the audio sound a great on the there, I
have my fingers on the pulse, my hand on the shaft,
whoever you want to say about it.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I don't know what that was in reference. Yeah, man
hockey team.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, that's taken completely out of contact.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
That sounds like was that you Jonah?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It was not, It was not me.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
It's definitely Brady. Hey, by the way, guys, that was Brady.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Sounds like Jonas. Still one more time, that was that
was cute.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
Yeah, let's hear it.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
I have my fingers on the pulse, my hand on
the shaft, whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Definitely, that's definitely Jonas. No, that's not that was That's
definitely that.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Was Brady at his old studios next to the to
the Amish family that had parties while he was on
the air, and.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
And somebody was okay, Amish, we're not going to go any.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Further from Amish to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
That night. It might have been that night.

Speaker 5 (31:40):
Oh god, wow, guys, the Lakers. They yeah, trying to
make this.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Back on, get them back on.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I was gonna say, hey, Philly, you're steering the car
right now, and you just drove us into a ditch.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Well, anytime I'm on with Jonas, Jonas, does I steer
him in a ditch as many times as I can?

Speaker 7 (31:58):
He certainly does.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
Both of our hands are on the steering wheel, and
I'll leave that right there anyway. So yeah, Anyway, last
night the Lakers, they got pounded by the Warriors one
twenty seven to one hundred high their Western Conference semifinal
series at a game Apiece played Thompson thirty points.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
He made eight three pointers.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
The Bucks have part of the ways with their head
coach Mike Botenholzer. This after he had the best regular
season record out of the Eastern Conference, but he served
a first round exit in the postseason to the Miami Heat.
With that, let's get it back to the three amigos
on this Cinco de Mayo, Jonas knocks LaVar Arrington and
Brady Quinn.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
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By the way, guy tweeted in and said, can you
guys announce when you will be talking about the bleep BA,
so I know when to change the channel please Monday.
I'll probably hit up the NBA again on Monday at
some point, so you know, nice little weekend recap it.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Is, right, So wait, does he want the NBA.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
No, he does not want the FBA. Yeah, so he
just wants to still let him know when when that's
going to be happening, so you.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Can appreciate your tweet, man.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
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Speaker 7 (35:08):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (35:09):
Another scandal with the Alabama Good morning, Brady, Good morning,
Jonas and Casey missed this. Another scandal with the Alabama
Athletic Department. Yesterday morning, Brady. Just yesterday they announced that
they are they have fired Alabama's UH baseball coach Brad
Bohannon after he was discovered to have been on the

(35:30):
phone with the Better placing a sizeable bet against the
Alabama Crimson Tide when they were playing LSU.

Speaker 7 (35:37):
LSU did win that game after he got one lead.
They did finish eight and six.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (35:43):
Some notable stuff from this report is that he was
the phone records research which led to the instant firing.
A lot of money was bet and that this was
not the only time it has happened.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Gosh, man, he bet against his own team.

Speaker 10 (35:56):
They The thought is that he might have alluded to
the Better that the year was a scratch of the
starting pitcher before it was announced to the public.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
I mean, nothing revs my engine like a gambling scandal
in sports.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I love it so hard. Let's just go back through this.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
So he was giving away then inside information correct to
a person who was then betting against Alabama.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Correct, and they don't know if it was for him
or just they don't know if it was for him. No,
they don't know that.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Okay, Well either way, dude, Oh he's not getting I mean, yeah,
I mean I get it.

Speaker 8 (36:30):
I'm sure it's worse if he was doing it on
for himself.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
He's getting a cut of that, like the idea that
he would just have to be aye, of course.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
But either way, just the idea of betting against your
own team, Like if if if Pete Rose was the
whole time betting against not you know, for his team
and betting on himself to go win games and all that,
it's almost like doubling down.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Sometimes I feel like some of these professional golfers, like
they get these playoffs after eighteen holes and they're like,
how about this The entire purse is on the line,
like type thing, you know, like if I lose, I'll give.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
You one a mote too.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
I mean, you could see those sorts of scenarios where
you're like, all right, the guy's betting on himself, but
betting against his own team, even if he's just giving
away inside information to do so.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's just it's it's.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
One of the obviously concerns with everything right now in
the world of sports and gambling.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's like, how much is he not being paid by
Alabama to where he's got to hit up some degenerate
gambler and give him tips about what's happening with his
team just to get a cut of it. I would
love to know what, like what his salary is or
what led to him being in this spot to where
he's got to go to this length to basically just

(37:44):
alienate his own team and just say, screw it, I
need to make a little bit of coin. Let me
get a cut of this gambling.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
I'm going to say this one more time though, why
wouldn't you have like a two, three, four person buffer?

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Like why is it so close?

Speaker 8 (37:59):
Like how can you relate phone records to doing something
that it's it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
More people involved, more people, you gotta.

Speaker 8 (38:09):
Pay, that's the dumbest. So what you got caught, you
got caught like, it's dumb. It's dumb. That's generally, I mean,
you gotta pay people to stay clean. That's that's dumb.
You gotta have fall, guys.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
It's just dumb.

Speaker 8 (38:29):
Sorry, I mean, it's dumb to do it in the
first place, but to be directly going to somebody and
giving them betting information. You're the head coach's dumb. You're dumb.
You're right where you deserve to be. God's will was
played out just perfectly. You know, it probably won't be
the last time to dude makes a dumb, dumb decision.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
That's dumb. Yeah, dumb.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
By the way, who's betting on Alabama baseball? Anyways?

Speaker 8 (38:50):
You know somebody was if y'all got a crew, you
got to have a fall guy.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
But that was that was lebar daring to break, by
the way, So people know what else we got, guys.

Speaker 10 (39:01):
A fun week for the Michigan Wolverines football team and
Jim Harball. He just got back from the annual offseason
team trip where he took them on a trip to
New York where they saw the sites such as Statue
of Liberty, Stock Exchange, Times Square, which was lit up
in Mazon blue for the team. They also did with
a tour of Washington, DC, and most recently, they also
got to see Gettysburg Pro Football Hall of Fame Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame and uh yeah all that stuff.

(39:23):
So fun trip for the what Washington Michigan Wolverines.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Did you guys ever do a field trip when you
were in college?

Speaker 3 (39:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
No, I mean I kind of wish I would have
been able to, though, only because it's cool. Like a
lot of the look Jim Harbaugh said what you want
about him, he's quirky. He's trying to teach guys stuff
and trying to show them, you know, history and different
things around the country. And he tried to do it
internationally around the world too, if you remember, they're going
over to like Rome and different stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
I think it's neat.

Speaker 4 (39:50):
I think it's unique, and it's something that will help
these players kind of gain more perspective and learn about
history and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
So I think it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
You guys ever seen those Gettysburg reenact things that go.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
On from Pennsylvania, Bro, Yeah, of course.

Speaker 8 (40:04):
I've had way more of my share fair share of Gettysburg.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
In my life.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Like people dress up, they walk around with a musket
and bo and go this is what its about?

Speaker 8 (40:13):
Then and too much, too much, too much Gettysburg going
to Virginia, Yeah, going, Yeah, too much every year, actually
twice twice a year.

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