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May 8, 2023 38 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys react to Nikola Jokic elbowing the Suns owner, confusion over the NFL schedule release, Jim Irsay issuing a warning about tampering with Andrew Luck and Mattress Mack losing money at Churchill Downs.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Monday edition, we have got some juicy
stuff going on in the NBA, including a conspiracy theory
and an altercation what went down in the desert last night.
We're also going to get into the NFL's bizarre handling
of the schedule release. We've got some shade potentially being

(00:21):
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Speaker 2 (01:18):
Good morning, man? Yeah, yeah, come on, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Getting spicy in the NBA playoffs, it is. Things are
heating up. You got Jokic shoving the Sun's owner, possible
suspension looming. Flop, Yeah, a little bit of a flop,
but you know, listen, any sort of physical altercation between
an owner and a player, that's what we need in
the NBA playoffs. It's gonna take it up, ratcheted up
a notch. There's some people out there that are looking

(01:42):
into the rules and claiming there could be a suspension
coming here for Nicola Jokic. Highly doubtful considering how the
NBA operates, but nonetheless that's a speculation out there. So
feel like we're getting things are getting a little spicy.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Got a couple of gun Is that what the Suns
need to have in order to actually win that series.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
That word about being a part of the rest of
the series. They can't win it.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I mean, come on, we had a great time in
Phoenix for the Super Bowl. Now you get to air out there.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
NBA team, I'm just saying, you've got Kevin Durant, You've
got Devin Booker. I mean, you've got this this team
kind of loaded up of all stars, and you guys still.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Can't beat Denver. They're one game close every game they
make it. They're one game closer to getting CP three
back too. You know, there's a possibility he could return
for it for the end of the series.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
CP three whoever else?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's a very valid point. All right, So let's hear.
Do you guys want to hear from.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
No, No, don't want to he sure don't even want
to know Rady.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
Do you want to hear from anybody?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Do you want to hear from anybody?

Speaker 6 (02:44):
I mean, I would love to hear from the boys, Roberto, Well.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, they're all here.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But do you want to hear you guys, Mike Malone
or do you want to hear from Jokic? Who talked
about the altercation because both Jokic for sure. All right,
so let's hear from Jokic, who sounds this sounds like
Rocky for.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Uh, this is this is Joki racist?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
It has a racists what he sounds like. But he
was discussing the altercation with the son's owner last night
after the game.

Speaker 7 (03:15):
The fan put a hand on me first, So I
thought the league is supposed to reprotect us or whatever.
So but maybe maybe I'm wrong. So we will see.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Did you happen to know who the fan was?

Speaker 7 (03:25):
He's a fan, isn't he? If he's a setting.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Phoenix Sun's owner.

Speaker 7 (03:30):
Sitting on the courts and he's a fan, isn't he?
That doesn't mean that he's a whoever? It isn't he's
a fan. He cannot influence the game by holding the ball.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I just love it. It's just no matter if he does,
he does.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
If he dies, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Because the brothers they travel.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
They out, Oh yeah, they will tug it out, which.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Like I'm not quite sure if that's if that's the
group you want to pick some sort of an altercation with,
If you're.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
The song, I mean, aren't they? I mean I could
be ignorant on this one, and I'm sure I'll get
the button hit on me. But isn't isn't that kind
of almost like what what Tyson Fury? Like the Fury
family is?

Speaker 6 (04:10):
I mean kind of aren't they?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Like I mean, am I horribly wrong or out of
line if I say like almost like.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Gypsies ki serbian? Is that what you're going for?

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I mean like I'm just yeah, I'm just saying if
if there's some way, somehow there there's some type of
relation and in like the you know kind of like
the area or bloodlines or something to that connection. It
doesn't even have.

Speaker 6 (04:38):
To be bloodlines, right, I mean, I've seen the movie
Four Brothers.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I know exactly how that stuff wks.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, but they're not from over there. They're they were
the Four Brothers. They was they was from They was
from Boston, wasn't they was that Detroit? It was Boston
and then to Detroit.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I mean interesting, we're related, and.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I mean that's what shows like, Yeah, that is.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
I just don't want to be the one that dies.
I think I think there's one that like.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Dies, right well, I think we know in our movie
which one dies.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
But whoever's racing a Churchill downs.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Oh god, I mean, yeah, I miss mine though, yeah,
I miss my zinger. But it's it's all good, you know.

Speaker 6 (05:21):
I mean, I don't find that to be true anymore.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Though I know what direction you're going, but I don't.
I don't actually find that to be true anymore.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
You knew what direction I was going in my quick
singer that actually out there?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Well, I think, I mean, I think the old thought
would be you, you'd assume LaVar would die.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Now, okay, who are you going after that?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Look at your text message?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
Oh that's messed up?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I mean sorry, Now, I do think that Mike Malone.
I think Mike Malone, the head coach of the Denver Nuggets,
is a fan of this show, and most in particular,

(06:15):
Brady Quinn.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I believe that he's a fan of Brady Quinn.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
And I think that he's very well aware that we
have a fine system in place for certain things that we're.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Not allowed to do on the air.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Like if Lebar laments about his time in Washington, he
gets a fine. If I'm passive aggressive, I get a fine. Well,
if Brady Quinn is dismissive and just says he doesn't
care about something on the air in that classic dismissive
tone that he exhibits from time to time.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
That's a ten dollars fine.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Apparently Mike Malone huge fan of that tactic by Brady Quinn.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Take a listen to the Nuggets head coach afterwards.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Yeah, I'm still not really sure what happened.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
I haven't seen a video of it.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
I think it's crazy that Nicola got a technical foul
in that situation. He's going to get the ball and
some fan is holding onto the ball like he wants
to be a part of the game.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Just get them all up, man, you know what I mean?
And you know they.

Speaker 8 (07:02):
They deemed Nicola doing something that was excessive. I guess,
and I gave him the tech, But I still don't
really understand.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
It the fans made any difference.

Speaker 8 (07:11):
I don't give it, man, it's you know, it's I
really don't care.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (07:17):
Do you think every single player in the NBA is
aware of who the Phoenix Suns owner is.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
Like they're supposed to be. No, but but I'm asking you.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
First off, he recently Matt Ishuba.

Speaker 6 (07:30):
Is that he pronounce his last.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
I'll be honest, with you. I don't know, but the.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Point is he recently took over his majority owner, and
I kind of look at it and go, I wonder
how many people are looking around, you know, court side
and going, oh, that's there, there's an owner.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
There's an own. Like I remember, like when I.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
Was playing form, I could have given two craps if
there was an owner around besides the owner that I
was playing for, I could have given two craps. And
I also wasn't like out there looking for that anyway.
Maybe he was, maybe he's more aware of it. I
don't know, but I think it's a little bit much
to assume that, you know, everyone's gonna know what that

(08:12):
owner looks like.

Speaker 6 (08:14):
Especially when like they're kind of dressed down in person.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
Like Yeah, It's one thing when you're in a room
and you've got a bunch of people and you're around
shaking hands.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
And you're like, oh, this room is filled with NBA owners.
That's one thing.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
It's another thing when like you kind of like see
someone who's not dressed how you thought they'd be, or
not in a spot you thought they'd be. I mean,
how many times do you kind of, like, you know,
see someone that you're like, oh, I know this person is,
but you know, they're not in their uniform or they're
not how I usually see them. They're they're dressed down
in something else. I don't recognize him quite the same,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, he looked like a wealthy like probably.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
He looked like a fan.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yes, he just he looked like a fan sitting on
the sitting court.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Side court site.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
See what he is Scottsdale, Like, here's my thing, right,
here's what really kind of it's like almost like an
irk irking type of situation.

Speaker 6 (09:07):
Oh, they say, I was like, oh yeah, I kind of.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I'm not Erkle, not quite Rkle, but just irk irks me.
Is that if that was a regular fan, what happens
to that fan? Right? If if that's a regular fan,
what's the narrative from from the media, Because the narrative
from the media is did you know that was the owner?
Like it's almost like it's like, okay, in any other circumstance,

(09:33):
Jo kich is right, like he's right, like give me
the ball, like get out of the way, like what
are you doing? Right? But the fact that it's like, oh,
did you know that's the owner, Oh my gosh, Like
the owner's holding the ball. The owner's holding the ball.
Like if that's anybody else in the stadium, they run
the risk or run the chance of being escorted out
of the arena.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
And also to Mike Malone's point, give the ball back,
get the ball, like, let the ball go back. Like
if you watch, he was holding onto the ball and he.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Also touched it. He also touched Yokic first. Yeah, like
if you look at who kind of touches, he touched
Jokic first, Which that's something that I mean, it's just
it's a weird dynamic. It's one that you know, I
can really can't relate to having played football because you
don't really get around fans in that capacity. At least
now where you're competing. You know, there's no one really

(10:21):
up on you quite like that. The NBA is different
in that way, right, you're kind of you're kind of
more vulnerable. You don't have on a helmet and pads
and well they have pads on, but it's not quite
like shoulder pads. You know, you you've you're kind of
more exposed because they're right up there on the court.
And I think it lends itself to a lot of
more what you see in the NBA, where you see
the interaction with the players and fans and sometimes altercations

(10:44):
break out. And in this case, it's like, just because
you're sitting there, don't don't be touching players. Don't think
you have the ability to even as an owner of
your own team.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
That's your own players.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's that's the hypocrisy of this entire conversation is if
he's not the owner, this this is an entirely different conversation,
Like why is the why is the narrative conversation different
because he was He's the owner, So oh, he has
the right to be a moron on on the court
because oh he's the owner. Like, oh, did you know

(11:15):
that's the owner? Like he's a fan, Like you just
asked me once he's a fan. Okay, you just asked
me twice. He's a fan. Shouldn't you be protecting the
players from the spectators? Like and Nicole is one hundred
percent correct, it's correct. You're not letting nobody else do that.
So why are you letting oh because it's the owner, Like, nah,

(11:38):
that doesn't that doesn't deem it correct or or all
right or now the narrative is something different. We have
to look at the rule book on this. No, if
he if that's a regular fan, he's going to be
handled as such.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
If anything, he's a sample. I mean that that's the
reality of it.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
If anything, you should want your your owner, your owners,
if they're in that spot, to be conducting themselves the
way you'd hope fans would conduct themselves. And it's like
you shouldn't be touching players and you shouldn't be holding
up a game like that.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
LaVar, you told us a story one time where you
were asked to leave the sideline of a Penn State
stake and all you were doing was arguing a call.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Correct, Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Like imagine if you'd put your right there for that
on one of the players.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Nah, that was that was many many. Joe was still
the head coach and I was I was like, what
kind of a call is that? Like that's that's what
I said, Like this has got Like I said, what
kind of a call is that? And then I said
the next thing I said was, you do know this
is Beaver Stadium. We are in Happy Valley. And he

(12:41):
told he told somebody if if this dude is on
the sideline when I come out, We're not We're not
starting the game until he's off the field. That's all,
is the guy.

Speaker 6 (12:53):
True?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
A referee did that because I was just complaining about
the and it was a horrible call. He made like
several horrible calls, like they were egregiously horrible. But in
the end, I wasn't. I wasn't harassing the referee. I was.
I was in the midst of talking about the game,
just like anyone else. He chose to single me out,
which was fine, but to go that deep with it,

(13:17):
like and listen, I wasn't. I don't know if he was,
if he meant it or not. I left, like you know,
I leave the field anyway. I went to go get meal.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Just I'm not going to challenge this story, all right,
But I mean, we did talk about your presence at
the Penn State Delaware game this year, and you have
said emphatically you will be there. You will be there
representing your son, representing Penn State for the first half,
and then you're then you're gonna retail GAT.

Speaker 6 (13:44):
The second half. So and you did say that's.

Speaker 9 (13:47):
Kind of your move, So I like, I kind of
feel like when the ref said this to you, like,
I was kind of like you anyway, I'm about here,
I'm out here anyway. I was out of here anyway,
his stupid son of a Yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:00):
You I was gonna leave anyway.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I was leaving anyway. Yeah, now call the better game,
bitch about that. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't change anything about
the way you're calling the game. Me being here and
not being here.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
See, you've guests surprised though. I didn't have a more
security around. He's a multi multi billionaire.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Dan Snyder used to walk around with dudes that was
ready to take your life. Man.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
But Dan Snyder's jacked.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (14:33):
I don't know, just making it up.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Dan used to walk around with them two dudes, man,
and you knew that that your life was in trouble.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
I thought there'd be like more of a kerfluffle if
uh if, like, I mean, there should have been more
like dudes around him anyway.

Speaker 6 (14:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
I just for a guy who's like, we're a billion millionaire,
multi multiple times over, even after your kitchen kind of
pushed him back and he flopped like.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
Like everyone else does in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
You just you would have thought that there was gonna
be like security up on it to kind of divide
things up, and there wasn't. It was a little bit
odd to see that. I guess with an owner and
a guy who's worth billions and billions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Want to be part of the action dressed down, he's
like like the common man just sitting in front of
hanging out.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Yeah, it's kind of cute. Yeah, you're very relatable like that.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I guess my thought is more like how many other
owners are watching that thinking, oh, they're standing up for
Ishbia or or they're saying, hey, that's like not what
we want, Like this is the last thing we want
is for you guys to get in an altercation with
with one of the best players in the league has
been a multiple m VP over the past few years.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
They probably look at it and say, all right, that's
the optics are bad. You're the new guy here, like
act accordingly.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Go get in a box like you usually do, and
start entertaining some business.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Know what I'm talking about. It is two pros and
a cup of Joe.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
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(16:16):
here Fox Sports Radio. But there is an interesting situation
that is developing. We were told some news not long
ago in the NFL, and apparently it may be false information.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
We'll tell you what that is. That's next.

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Speaker 1 (16:46):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up twenty minutes from now from the tire rack dot
Com studios. We could have ourselves a potential violation in
the NFL. We'll give you the details on that here
on FSR. So there's a little bit of confusion going
on in the National Football League. Adam Schefter sent out

(17:07):
a tweet I think a couple of weeks ago, saying
that the target date and it might actually it might
have been around the NFL Draft, but he said the
target date for the NFL to release their schedule, the
big schedule release show they do, was going to be
this Thursday, coming up on the eleventh. Well, you go
and look around and search around, and there's no real clarity.

(17:30):
You go to NFL dot com and there's like a
page dedicated to the schedule release, but there's no real
information there. It just says, you know, stay tuned and
come back for further details. And then Peter King reported
this that over the weekend, Peter King was told that
there were concerns regarding the completion of the schedule by
the deadline, and there's a possibility that it could still

(17:53):
be ready in time, but there's uncertainty and it raises
questions about the league's ability to deliver as promised. Wow,
we're four to now, so we're four days away from
the schedule release and they don't have it done yet.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
What am I missing here, what have they been doing well?

Speaker 5 (18:08):
I think when you factor in the difficulties of the
Aaron Rodgers trade just got finalized a couple of weeks ago, right,
and they've got these international games that are probably harder
to figure out than most realize, because you know, a
player like that going to the Jets. The Jets without
Aaron Rodgers might be a one or two primetime playoff

(18:31):
game team. Now there are five. You know, they'll have
five primetime games. That changes around where wherever you put them,
whether it's a Thursday night, Sunday night, Monday night, you know,
however else you sprinkle that in, and then I think
it also impacts how those games are looked at the
in the four o'clock windows. Like whether people realize this,
the four o'clock Sunday window is the biggest window for viewing.

(18:53):
It used to be primetime, used to be Sunday night.
It's not anymore. I don't think at any point it
really was Monday night, even though it's primetime. Definitely hasn't
been Thursday night. But that four pm window when there's
maybe only a couple of games on, but like the
entire country is getting either on CBS or Fox, one
of those those major brands in the NFL that's going

(19:14):
to outrate a lot of other games, even in primetime.
So figuring that out it's a lot more difficult than
people realize, especially when you have a superstar move, you know,
relatively close to the release. Then you factor in what
the Saints and Patriots are plan in Germany, You've got
other games, and you know London and everything else, and
how you go about figuring that out. Teams have the

(19:35):
option to choose to have a buy after their London trip,
you know. So there's just a lot of moving parts
to it. Now to your point, I would assume the
schedule makers those Howard Katz, I think it's who.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
From the NFL does it.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
That you would have multiple renditions of this, Like we
would have a schedule where if Aaron Rodgers is a
jet and if Aaron Rodgers decides to play back with
the Packers, or if Aaron Rodgers just even with the
San Francisco forty nine ers that was like a report,
right they were interested. Yeah, you would have all those
different variations of a schedule and you kind of go
from there. But there could be some some moving parts

(20:13):
in regards to like an international game. Hey in Germany,
we're trying to look at this venue at this time. Oh,
there's a there's a there's a big you know, october fest,
you know, deal going on, so you can't use the facilities.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
At that time or something.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
I don't know, but you know what I'm saying, Like,
there's just so many things that I think are involved
in deciding some of this that it's probably not quite
as easy as we think in our heads.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
They also like they already have it done.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
You think they got it done?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, I just think that it It just furthers the
entertainment value of it to to allow for leaks like
that to come out, Like, yes, that everything that that
you're saying, Q, I believe to be be accurate. But
to say, well, we're this close to the announcement and

(21:02):
that's what's scheduled. I mean, how long do you think
that they're working on the schedules in advance? I mean,
let's be clear, there's probably a great length that the
people who do the schedule making run the information, you know,
all the data and all those so for quite some time.

(21:24):
Here's the issue with that.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
So much like even in college football, where there's rights
to certain conferences and then they have essentially a draft
based on who has priority each week, who has priority
throughout the season, then who has priorty each week. So
it's gonna be very similar in the sense with Fox
and CBS, you know, and you've seen some of the
games too that I think they've kind of swapped at times.

(21:49):
So that stuff happens. So what potentially could happen is,
you know, because they want to announce the TV times
along with this is the TV partners are still going
back and forth with swapping.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
Out some games.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Yeah, that's fair and that stuff, Like, I'll be fully transparent,
this is going on right now in college football. It'll
take till the end of May before some of this
stuff is sorted out, and even then, even then it
won't be fun to change. Yeah, it could still change
where you get into the season and you have what's
called a six day pick, a twelve day pick where

(22:23):
one of the networks has the top pick and then
they don't tell their their broadcast crew until you know,
whatever time that is.

Speaker 6 (22:30):
That stuff happens, for sure.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
In college football and the NFL, it's a little more
scheduled and regimented and you kind of have more of
an idea of when those games are, but you could
you could have the chance where Fox and CBSA we're
gonna swap these games?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Was right?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Wasn't The Penn State Purdue game originally supposed to be
the ESSPN game? And that was that part of the
Joe Buck Troy Aikman trade.

Speaker 5 (22:53):
Yeah, a lot of people don't didn't know that, but
that was part of Joe Buck going to Monday Night Football.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
With Troy Aikman because he was under contra.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Fox got in return of Joe Buck as part of
the trade. The Penn State Purdue game that kicked off
last year's season, uh in West Lafayette.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
How about that, LeVar? We are is the reason that
that deal is able to be compared.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
By the way and we game, I mean the final minutes.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Yeah, we went up in there and trap to pull
it out, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Took care of business you did?

Speaker 6 (23:23):
Yeah, I mean it was you guys were winning.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
Clifford throws a pick six, which subsequently the dB who
picked it off ended up throwing up on the sidelines,
which is quite exsite to see in person.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
Did he really Yeah?

Speaker 5 (23:34):
And then Clifford drives the team down the field. I
believe he hit the back out of the backfield like
on an all out pressure, flipped it to him for
a touchdown to go back up in front.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
I mean, it was a Sean Clifford experience.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
But do you see Sean, You see Sean Clifford's got
Aaron Rodgers spot in the Packers locker room now right.
I mean the body's not even cold and they already
rolled in Shawn.

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Cliff Hey, that's that's my sand X guy right there.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Man, that's that's the Ohio blood at the same age.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, showed out respect.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
That is true. Respect your elders. Now.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Also one of the this is Mike Florio put this
out as far as the NFL schedule goes that the
NFL has been trying to figure out solutions. Again, supposed
to be launched in four days, but we're still working
on solutions, and he says a team of computers has
been working to generate various alternatives offering potential solutions to
the scheduling conundrum. The league is determined to provide fans

(24:30):
with an exciting and competitive season, but it seems that
unexpected challenges have arised. So you mean to tell me like,
there's artificial intelligence. You got cars that can drive themselves,
but computers can't figure out how many times they want
to show the Titans on national TV.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Come on, man, I'm telling they're basically telling the people,
the living the living organisms us that what you want
is and what you're getting. Hey, I said, listen, man,
this is the game that we were trying to tell you,
and we're like, now we don't want that game, but

(25:08):
we're trying to tell you that this is the game.
Now we don't want that game. We don't we don't
want that matchup. That's that's what it sounds like. AI
is saying something that's higher intelligence of what the game
is supposed to be, and the people who are are
looking at it and running it, they're like, hell no,
we ain't doing that. Yeah, we're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Well.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
I mean it is reported though for those Germany games.
And I don't know if this is going to interview,
if you're with Octoberfest or not, but it is. Are
we going to Germany? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I mean said, let's go.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Oh man, I'm all for it.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
I've already put the request in with Scott and Don
and I think they're, yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Let's all go, Hey, we'll catch a Ramstein concert war
out there.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Why not do that?

Speaker 4 (25:50):
He win in Rome, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Let's go.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
But that's not Rome, that we're actually in Rome.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Dah whatever, Hamburg, who cares. Point is we're gonna have Saints.
I believe Saints Patriots is one of the games, and
the Matt Naggi revenge game Chiefs Bears is the.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
And that's real. You know, that's not artificial. There's real drama.
When you're talking about those teams scoring off in the
history behind them.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Great, that's real.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Many artificial good work there. The only reason why I
believe that is because you said it.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
Yeah, damn right, Yeah, there's nothing nothing artificial about that.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Otherwise, Brady pointed out that beer going to get his
ass whipped.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and hopefully it'll be on some real stuff.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
They're not the artificial study.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, oh my gosh. You know what's interesting about you
saying that is, you know, artificial is artificial, my guys.
And when it's artificial, well you don't want it to
be that because well, for what it's worth, it causes
a lot of injuries and you know what, thirty two
percent to be exact, more non contact knee injuries. Fellas,

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Speaker 11 (29:37):
Happy Monday, you guys. Good morning LeVar, Good morning Brady,
Good morning Jonas. Hope you guys had a good weekend
and Casey missed this over the weekend, Jim Erse issued
a warning on Sunday via Twitter. In the tweet, he says, quote,
if any NFL team attempted to contact Andrew Luck or
any associate of him to play for their franchise, it

(29:58):
would be a clear viol of the league's tampering policy. Now,
this is in regards to a report that came out
over the weekend that the Washington Commanders or Commandos as
we like to call them, we're shopping around, obviously looking
for a quarterback back in early twenty twenty two, and
had reached out to an associate of Andrew Luck gauging
his interest in a return to the NFL.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Don'll mess with Jim that's interesting. You don't want to
feel the wrath.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
And furthermore, don't mess with Andrew Luck, who they're still
still you know, fawning over in Indianapolis apparently.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
I mean, is that even possible for Andrew Luck to
make a comeback? I mean, big George Forman made a comeback.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
That's trade. Yeah, that is true.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Is it possible he comes.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
I mean Luck's still young, right, you're still young.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
He's part of your Hall of Fame class, wasn't Eilamar
he is?

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Yeah, he's thirty three about how he regretted it, so
I just wonder, like, yes, did he really talk about
it he regretted retiring or how he retired way he
did it? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (30:59):
Oh right, Yeah he's not coming back.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
I mean if he.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Did, though, he looks in great shape. Yea, There's there's
gonna be teams that would be suitors. And also he
could probably play another I don't know, eight nine years right,
I mean, guys are playing in their forties now.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean do you think that Not to turn this
into like a bait thing, but do you feel like
if Andrew Luck wanted to come back, that that would
cause a lot of controversy considering that guys like Kaepernick
or oh, you know, having been able to catch back
on to a team, you know, even though they're like
superiorly more talented than ninety percent of the starting quarterbacks

(31:42):
or backup quarterbacks in the league. Would that cause any
type of controversy? You think racist?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (31:51):
I mean, I think if you look at that that
last year comparatively, I mean, it shouldn't.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
But there are a lot of morons out.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
There, so I'm sure they would, they would try to
create that argument. I just thought, I just, I mean,
that's my issue with everything that's happening right there's so
many morons where it's, you know, things only are true
in one way and they're.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Not true everywhere else, which doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah, but why is uh?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
If Andrew Luck came to Jim Mersay and said, hey,
I want to come back, I just I want to
be elsewhere. I want to I want to go someplace
where you know, you don't call the brand new quarterback.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
The wrong name when you first meet him. You know,
I'd like to That's what I'd like to do.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
I wonder if Jim Mersey would just say Nope, absolutely not,
like the fact that he's sending out a warning, even
if teams called him like who cares? What do he
needs some draft compensation?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
Like what I mean?

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I personally think that he would put it in a
song and sing it to Andrew Luck as to what
he was truly feeling about a question like that coming
his way. Yeah, yeah, you know him and the tree
leading or stuff. I think that it would be a
very interesting It'd be an interesting song.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Get have Andrew Lucky a guest sing on one of
the be like a guest vocalist. Everybody'd be like, hey,
why is Andre them back? Like he don't don't.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Know why you keep comparing him to that, Like they
don't sound anything alike.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
Andrew Luck and Andre the Giant don't tell you they.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Don't sound anything alike, all right?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
They both have very deep voices, well one had a
very deep voice.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
I mean, if you had any proof whatsoever, that's one thing.
But you don't.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
I mean, why are you always calling out my credibility?
You say I don't have credibility, that I don't have proof.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
The apparently you need to include more quotes and like
the source of where you find some of your your statements.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Which, by the way, you've never provided that for me.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Okay, I had a simple request and you'd never provided
that for me. Do we have Do we have Andrew
the Giant with us here? We'll effort and see if
we can put together some splices of Andrea the Giants.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
They do both have very deep voices. I mean, I
don't think they sound just alike, but I get where
you're coming from.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yeah, well, I mean we will effort that at some point.
What else we got leave guys?

Speaker 11 (33:56):
In case you missed it, One of our favorite betters,
Mattress Mac, was at Churchill Downs on Saturday, came with
two million dollars, ended up placing one point two down
on Angel Angel of Empire, who of course finished third.
So he was seen afterwards ripping up that ticket.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
I mean, I suppose, like, what else would you like
to see him do with that ticket? I mean, is
there a better way of disposing of a lost ticket?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Now?

Speaker 11 (34:20):
I know, funny enough, I have a third story that
I'll tease ahead to that then.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Actually, like here, I'm a little Mattress Mac. I know
he specializes in mattresses. Does he specialize in bed sheets
because they probably could have used a couple there this week.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Oh wow, that that was cool, I mean very distasteful.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
But I mean you wrote that. What's on yesterday?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yesterday?

Speaker 4 (34:43):
What are you talking about? Listen?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I was I watched all the festivities at Churchill Cemetery,
I mean Churchill Downs, Like I was, you know, taking
it all in. I bet as well too. The results
of that not ideal. But look, I just I'm just
trying to figure out, you know, mattress max involvement, there a.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Lot of That was one hell of a quick one line.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Someone trying to tell me he was a bartender. Actually
you got no conversation about everything that's happened in the world,
and he's like, it's all distraction, there's something bigger going on.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
And I was like, all right, how does this relate
to h.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
All the horses die, Churchill Downs? But you're trying to
get Peta involved into the mix with everything's going on
out there?

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Is that is that what you're saying? Like, I don't know, Yeah,
I'm not sure that's the case.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
You know what, So, like I was the this is
only in horse racing, tell me one other place where
this happens other than horse racing.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
So do you go down the list of issues they
have this week? You had, you had a.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
Job var Pops Achilles, We gotta lay them down.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Just think about this, though in no other sport would
this exist. You had a trainer who got suspended, You
had the favorite pull out the morning of the race
because of an injury, and then you had seven horses
die in a week. And it's six forty five Eastern time,
and they just run on like business as usual. He

(36:07):
forget about all that show must go on. Step over
the corpses. As you get to the track, everybody plays
your bets and there's like two hundred thousand people they're
watching the race like ultimate show must go on. Sport
that wouldn't exist anywhere else other than horse racing, and
it's just accepted.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
I don't know. There's some other sports where I think
some of some other w W maybe I mean football,
would do it. I'm gonna be very careful what I
say here. I've experienced stuff where the game must go
on next day. Come on, man, There's been a lot
of other things that have happened around some major riverside.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Do you think the jockeys are saying to each other
a riverside riverside.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
No, the jockeys looking for another horse to ride, so
you canna make some money.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
The jockey's doing it's like, oh.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Well I gotta find I gotta find myself another page.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
I mean, like seven horses died in a week, and
it's just.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
That's a high number. Yeah, that's pretty high.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
There must the insurance on those things must be getting
way too big, That's what it might be.

Speaker 6 (37:12):
That's what they need to look into.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
What do you think's happening here?

Speaker 5 (37:16):
I mean they're like, well, this thing wasn't gonna place
well anyway, and that's insurance. The next thing, you know,
Elmer's is pulling.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Up in the pad factory.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
I'm just saying, I mean, you've got guys who are
horse owners that are using contaminated hay that was you know,
contaminated by one of the Yeah, I mean that's how
he tested positives.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
That's the excuse.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Like, Okay, what guys are creative.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
As what's the worst ped excuse? Taminated? Like, hey, it's
been contaminated.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Orinated on by some guys.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Or DeAndre Hopkins saying that he used a shampoo that
had an element that that ended up making him piss hot, Like,
at least.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
I can tolerate saying I use so I thought.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
The shampoo was supposed to take away that stuff. That's
my understanding of guys.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Some of them like you know, stimula hair follicle growth.

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