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May 15, 2023 42 mins

The NBA is sure to want a LeBron led Lakers vs the Celtics in the Finals, but in the meantime, enjoy some big man ball between Anthony Davis and Nikola Jokic. Zeke faces a harsh reality at only 27-years old, a look ahead to a game 7 in the NHL and a Monday edition of “You In or Out.”

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The conference finals are set. It is a rematch of
the Bubble. You've got the Nuggets, you've got the Lakers,
you've got the Celtics, you've got the Heat. Everybody looking

(02:08):
forward to this one. But it does feel like if
the NBA had its preference, you'd get a Boston LA Final. Correct,
Like if the NBA could pull some strings here and
try and get it.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
The ratings, Yeah, I get Lebron in the finals, especially
as a Laker against the Boston Celtics, like this does
feel like this is the direction the NBA would hope
that it would go. Like it feels like that's where
we're at. What's unfortunate about that is that I feel
like the Miami Heat have been totally disrespected at all
this like Brady's Miami Heat, the team that is swept

(02:42):
over South Florida, the team with the Florida Panthers that
has really put South Florida back on the map for
some good things. And I'm looking at the odds for
not only just the NBA Finals, but to win their series,
and Miami, who just played Boston last year, took them
to a game seven last year in the Eastern Conference Finals,

(03:03):
is a plus four hundred to win that series. Meanwhile,
the Lakers are almost at about even money at plus
one p thirty or at least close to even money
when it comes to winning their series. And with everything
we've seen from Boston and their inconsistency and they're up
and down, I don't understand how anybody's picking against Miami
at this point. I don't know why Miami's not getting

(03:24):
the respect they deserve and sitting as clearly by far
and away the team with the longest odds to win
the NBA Championship based on this run that they've been on,
and Jimmy Butler and Eric Spolstra, it feels like a
little bit of disrespect towards the Miami Heat. He ask me,
that's what it feels.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
What were they there in the course of the regular season.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
They were not very good during the course of the
regular season.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh well, I mean even head to head, Like how
that match up?

Speaker 5 (03:50):
What were they? Was it three to one? They played
four times? I forget what the matchup was. But the
Celtics I think got the best of them during the
course of the regular season. And I know Miami's got
the injuries. But you know, like they say, the NBA
playoffs is different than the NBA regular.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Season, all right? Is different? Who says that exactly?

Speaker 5 (04:10):
I don't know a bunch of people. It just sort
of regurgitated.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
I know a bunch of people.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
There's a lot of people who like to regurgitate things
that don't make sense in the NBA playoffs, Like my
favorite is when the discussion goes who's got most press
who's got most of the pressure, who's feeling more of
the pressure, Like, where's the pressure on? Isn't everybody feeling pressure?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
It's the play they're two and two. I believe they
split over the course of the regular season.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
Yeah, so there's that.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I'm sure Lee can can check that or you know,
go back on that.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
But Wi Fi issues, Yeah, you know that works. We're
efforting that stuff here.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Efforting.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, it feels like everybody's everybody's got some pressure in
the veg out. That's another one. Yeah, vegging out, vegging
it out.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Let's get it. Let's get it. Lea, come on, we're
out so you can get it.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
He's efforting, Yeah, efforting, still efforting. Listen, it's fine. We'll
figure this stuff out on the fly. You know, new studio,
new equipment, We're getting everything to get. But point being,
I feel like Miami deserves a little bit more love
than they're actually getting, and they're not getting that love.
I know the NBA would like Boston, they would like
the Lakers in the finals. I get all that, but
I think that the Miami Heat deserves some respect and

(05:13):
they're not getting that damn respect. So it's unfortunate. I'm
doing my best.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I think what's more interesting was the news of Monty
Williams getting let go by the Suns. I mean, when
you think about the fact that, you know, Boldenholzer got
let go as well Monty Williams, who outside of the
first season he took over his head coach in Phoenix,
they'd been to at least the conference semi finals. I mean,
they lost obviously in the finals the second year there,

(05:39):
and then it's been back to back years losing in
the Conference semis And I know people are probably gonna
be critical of me saying that, but like Durant just
got there this season. It wasn't like they had as
much time to be able to make this whole thing
work and really gel and develop that sort of chemistry.
I would at least like to see them give it

(06:00):
another year and then see if you can't. You know,
they've got everyone under contract, and so if you can't
put a team around it that can be a championship team,
then you make that decision. But Matt Ishbia clearly wanted to,
you know, being a new owner of the team, wanted
to move on and pick his guy, which we'll see
how that works out. In the long run, I just

(06:20):
I think that was a mistake. I think they've they
had a good coach. They let a good coach go,
and I'm I'm sure they'll find someone who's more than capable.
But it's almost like in the NBA anymore, you know,
unless you're winning an NBA's final, NBA Finals, it doesn't matter,
like like nothing is good enough, especially if you have
a superstar. And meanwhile, you look at someone like Boston

(06:41):
who you know, drafted, developed Jason Tatum, you know, put
pieces out around him, or Miami, who brings in Jimmy
Butler continues to put pieces around him.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You know, there's not as much ever pressure on Eric Spolstra.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean Joe Mezzalua, like you know, he took over
that job in a different way. But it's almost like
if I'm a head coach, I don't know that I
want a superstar, uh, because I feel like that immediately
comes with the pressure of winning a championship and depending
on our run in the playoffs, you know, it's like
nothing's good enough outside of that, And it's a tough spot.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
And it's Monti Williams's fault that Kevin Durant turned his
ankle and lay up lines before his first game, or
that Chris Paul has an injury every single Playoffs seemingly,
and DeAndre Ayton's had his issues. I mean, Monty Williams
was Coach of the Year and now he's out.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Of a job.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
It does the Joker made Aid and quit that series,
Like I mean, people may not want to, you know,
acknowledge that that man didn't want to deal with him.
Not one more minute, not one more second. I'm gonna
sit these ribs down on this bench, and I'm gonna
watch this game like I'm gonna watch this final game.

(07:51):
I'm gonna watch us lose this final game. DeAndre Aiden
and that's that's the name, right.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Yeah, for all of the clout that he received for
how well he played in Playoffs passed, the Joker made
a joke of him in this last series and it
was you were going to need him to be Aiden,

(08:19):
to be that guy in the series. Not only was
he not that guy, but they brought it to them
so bad that this dude ended up sitting out the
last game. That's wild to me. So when I when
I think about the heart of this Phoenix team. I

(08:43):
don't you know, I won't say if the head coach
isn't to blame or is the blame or whatever. All
I'll say is they found themselves in an an adverse situation,
a seriously adverse situation, and they totally, they totally disappeared

(09:03):
in it. And I felt like that was the same
that was the same for for Golden State.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
These were two.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Teams in my opinion, that lacked heart and lacked the
intestinal fortitude to be in a series where it.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Got physical, where the adversity.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Was We're getting banged like this is this is one
of them bang up type of series that's going to
take place. And you know what, the bang up teams
ended up winning, which I wouldn't even thought that would
have been the Lakers, but it ended up being them.
And I'm gonna tell you right now, I am super
pumped up to see the Joker and ad go ahead

(09:45):
to head. I am super pumped up to see that
because you're not gonna have any any no one's going
to back down in this series, and for what is worth,
you're gonna have the same, exact, the same exact chippy
type of play in the mina Miami Celtics series as well.
But this out West one with Denver and the Lakers,

(10:06):
that's gonna be that's going to be a tale of
the tape man. But not having guys like up for
the challenge of a physical type of downright nasty series
that's going to take place.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
That could have been the reason why he ended up
losing his job.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
When you have two coaches who met in the finals
and Budenholzer and Monty Williams. A couple of years ago,
Montie Williams had just won Coach of the Year and
now he's out of a job as well too. When
both those guys have been canned, it's kind of a
bad look for I would say for just the profession.
As you were laying out, Brady, and just like coaching
and all that, it just it feels like the NBA

(10:43):
has told you it is about superstar players and coaches
are replaceable, and yet you look at Miami man Eric Spolstra.
Everyone wants to say, well, I mean, anybody could coach
Lebron and that team to an NBA championship. You see
what he's done since then, and they stuck with him
and he's been fantastic and he's had that team in

(11:05):
a finals in the bubble, He's had that team in
conference championships. Miami's got a ton of injuries right now.
Oladipo's knee, Tyler hero has been in a cast. It's
not like they're walking around full health. And Eric Spolster's
got him playing at a high level. And yet you
look at some of these other teams like a Phoenix,
like a Milwaukee and it's what have you done for
me lately? And guys just get clipped. It's crazy, Like,

(11:28):
I just I don't know how that's a good look
for anybody in the NBA, or how if you're a
coach in the NBA you're seeing this and going all right, yeah,
I'll sign up for that, like that's something I want.
It just it feels odd to me.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
But it feels at times too, the primary portion of
the job is almost making sure.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
The star is happy.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, you know, we talked about earlier just the impact
of an NBA superstar versus a superstar as a quarterback
or whatever the sport.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And the impact they have on the outcome of the game.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I mean, you know, to me, here's probably no greater
impact than a superstar in basketball in regards to their
outcome of the game, and it seems like instead of
it being schematic or it being a partnership, it's almost
like it's at times of daycare service, like you're kind
of babysitting to make sure that that superstar is happy,
he's got all the things he wants.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, you mentioned before or maybe I don't know
if as LeVar.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Mentioned it talk about the roster construction for the Lakers
and how at some point Rob Polinka had to you know,
not listen or not care what Lebron thought and bring
in a bunch of guys who were the right pieces.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean, there's a period of time where Lebron wasn't
gonna be.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Able to come back this season, but apparently due to
his superhuman health and recovery, he was able to make
it back. Or did it have to douce that he
put out there right or I'm curious, or did that
have to do with the fact that he was watching
these pieces come together and went, wait a second, like
this team could play like if I'm back in the mix,

(13:00):
this squad, like we can go win a championship. I've
done this before. I've seen how this works. And I
think maybe that light went off in his head thinking
like this is actually a really good spot, this is
actually a really good team. You start looking on the
rest of the league, going maybe we do have a
realistic shot of going in there and making some noise.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Because it was it was Lebron James who wanted Russell Westbrook,
like that was his idea. And then Polinka's like, all right,
this is not working, like I gotta I gotta make moves.
We got to add add some guys, and he did.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
And then because you.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Remember the conversation about Lebron the Lakers this year was
him winning the scoring or breaking the scoring record, like
that was really the big discussion. And then all of
a sudden, Anthony Davis started to come back to health
and they picked it up. But yeah, it's it's an
odd time to be a coach in the NBA, but
it's going to be a fun time as we get ready.
And I'm with you, LeVar a d versus Joker. That's

(13:51):
old school basketball, when the big man mattered, you know,
like that's old school back in the day, you know,
Shaq versus Kim Elijah on, Like when the big man
was dominant in the league, so we're going to get
a little bit of that in the Western Conference Finals.
It's going to be a lot of fun to watch.
And Game one for the Western Conference Finals tips off
tomorrow night. Game one in the Eastern Conference tips off

(14:12):
on Wednesday, so a lot of stuff to discuss when
it comes to those matchups throughout the course of the playoffs.
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks with
you and you can hang out with us. Is always
on the iHeartRadio app as well. All Right, so coming
up next, there is somebody in the NFL who is,
upon further review, having to deal with a really harsh

(14:37):
reality about their career. We'll tell you who that is
right here Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 5 (14:56):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Twin, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up later on this hour. We are going to have
another edition of you in or you out a Monday
edition of that. So we'll get into that for you
here as we close up shop on a Monday morning
for you, that'll happen. We'll call it about twenty five
minutes from now here on FSR. So, Ezekiel Elliott is

(15:18):
still a free agent. He is still available. He is
no longer a Dallas Cowboy. There was some speculation maybe
he'd signed with the Philadelphia Eagles. There's been some rumblings
about some other possible landing spots for Zeke. One of
those would involve the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Buccaneers look
at Zeke and that could fill a void and Zeke
would fit in nicely with them, and that Zeke would

(15:40):
be an option for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as they
try and figure out what they're going to do in
the post Tom Brady era. And so Buccaneers running back
coach skeep skip Pete. Rather easy for me to say, skeep.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
You over there.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Yeah, lets get Peete.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Okay, So lot going on with that? Okay, damn it,
I mean that's an easy one to slip up?

Speaker 5 (16:04):
Was that Pete? What I call him skeep could I
why not?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Pretty much?

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Whatever again.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Going on? That is so good?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Gosh, that'll get taken care of post production. Nowhere about it.
It's like it never happened.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I'm trying to stop. I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
I'm sorry, God, I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Oh man, my apologies. Mister Pete. I want to apologize.
I did not mean to screw your name up like that. Butcher,
that one pretty good. But try this again.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Three two.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
But Bucceteers running back coach.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Skip Pete, there we go.

Speaker 5 (17:03):
Spoke about Ezekiel Elliott and why Zeke still remains unsigned.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
He's not playing ninety percent of the game anymore. He's
playing fifty because Tony Pollard is playing fifty percent of
the snaps, so your numbers are going to naturally go down.
Everybody still scored twelve touchdowns, he still caught the ball well,
he still had numerous third and ones, and sure you're
at the goal line players where he helped us win games.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He's still a physical load.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
If you're going to play and you're going to be
the second or third guy, that's kind of what the
price is. So that's something that you know that person
has to be able to make a decision if that's
what they.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Want to do.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
Zeke's only twenty seven years old, man, and that's it.
Like his days of being a quote unquote factor back
or being a guy who was the every down back
for a team, like what he did early in his career,
it's over at twenty seven years old. That's insane to me.
I don't know if there's any profession where you peak

(18:03):
that quick and then that's just it, Like it's you're
You're no longer ever considered somebody that's worth the type
of money he made early in his career.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
And to.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Skip Pete's point, oh he's not.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Ezekiel is not the load that he once was.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Now, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 6 (18:27):
I mean, that's what coach Skeat said. That's that's that's
what coach Skeat said. Listen, there's you don't have to
make it. It doesn't have to be made into a
horrible thing. The shelf life of a running back on
average is what three and a half years.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
So the average life span of the NFL players three
three years?

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Right?

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Yeah, so, but I do believe the study on on
running backs the shelf life is like three and a
half years for a running back to start play.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
What's that if they're a starter? Maybe? Right?

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah, whatever, whatever the stat was, I just know that
that's I recall that being being the stat If you
are able to have a career of of six years,
eight years, nine years, ten years, if you're able to
have a career like the Emmitt Smith's or the Edger

(19:26):
and Jane.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Frank, that's those are outliers and friends. Yeah, what.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
The grave one? And the most important point, by the
way he.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Carries three balls at once.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
I'm done, Come on, Mark, I'm done because there's the
truth of what Q was saying is now visually in
my head and I can't focus in on I cannot
see it, you know.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
See it.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
It's like a duffel bag full of sumo wrestlers.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, two pros and a cup of Joe. This is
real talk.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Yeah, this is you, LeVar, Come well, Labar. This is
none of this artificial stuff that other shows talk about.
This is the real stuff here.

Speaker 6 (20:25):
That is that how you're feeling like for real, that's
how you're feeling.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Well.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Just in case you guys didn't know that that uh coach.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Skeet talking about Ezekiel Elliott. Maybe if Ezekiel Elliott had
real turf, real grass.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Maybe if Z cat real grass fields everyone, he wouldn't
have had those injuries that have slowed him down to
not be the load that he needs to be for
the team that he's going to go play for. You
know what American Grass seat company Pennington. They're on a
mission to ban turf fields so that the injuries aren't

(21:12):
as plenty for the players. So go to you know
pennington dot com slash flip the Turf now to learn
more and sign the petition for teams to hashtag flip
the turf to real grass.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
All right? Talking about all right?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Can I ask this before we wrap up our conversation
on Ezekiel Elliott wrap up? If everything is equal, would
it not make the most sense just to go back
to the Dallas Cowboys if there was interest there, all
things being equal, money's the same anywhere else, wouldn't it
just make more sense to go back to Dallas? Or

(21:52):
as a player, are you so offended that they wanted
to walk away from you that you say screw them? All?
Signed with anybody but not the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, isn't polar playing under the franchise tag?

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Right?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Now, Yes, I.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Mean, isn't it hard to walk back to a team
where you are the guy and you've got to sit
in a room and share carriers with the guy who's
now making more than you.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I mean, I think that's that's probably.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
One of the bigger hurdles, is that kind of mental
hurdle that comes along with it.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
And to be honest, I think most people could relate.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I mean, how many people are working a job right
now that maybe have been asked to take a pay
cut for doing the same thing and maybe they're not doing.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
As much as as they were before.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
It's a tough pill to swallow. And that's the position
that he's in right now. It's it's kind of the
direction of the league as things become more pass happy.
If you're Zeke as much, you want the contract and
maybe the workload or to be the guy. That's just
not reality anymore. In the NFL, most teams are throwing
the football, you know, sixty percent or more times a game.

(22:53):
If they're not, you know, it's it's rare and it's
probably a unique approach. Or they're the Atlanta Falcons and
they just draft to be Jean Robertson so they're going
to take a different approach with it. I just I
think that's the hardest thing for him, is you could
go back to Dallas, but you've got to overcome the
fact that the league's not what it was when you

(23:13):
first got into the league.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Your own team isn't what it was when you got
into the league.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
And and then are you willing to be the older
guy who once was the guy hopping out of you know,
Salvation Army, you know, donation cans and celebrating. Are you
willing to go back and continue to build your career
that way? I think the long term view is you should.

(23:40):
Because there's nothing more powerful in the NFL than the
Dallas Cowboys brand.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
That's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
So if he has aspirations in business or broadcasting or
whatever else he wants to do, Jerry Jones and the
Dallas Cowboys set their players up better.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Than anyone, and there's a real value in that.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
If he wants to go somewhere else and Chase Ring, okay, hey,
but he's not gonna get the touches, he's not gonna
get the contract that he wants, even though he'd be
an incredibly you know, impactful player, it's.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Just it's just a different world he's living in now.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
So I think it's a tough spot for him, and
it more that he's got to come to the realization that,
you know, life in the NFL isn't what it was
when he got drafted.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, it's it's unfortunate, but the Dallas Cowboys continue to
roll on.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
But it's not unfortunate.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
I think you know that it's kind of a bummer, man,
it's not.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
It's I mean, you just you adapt and you adjust.
He still has the opportunity to play meaningful downs, meaningful minutes.
You know, you go to a team you actually go
back to Dallas if he goes to a team that
that he feels, you know, you go to a team
like San Francisco where they're able to use running backs
the way that they're able to use running backs and

(24:50):
how that that works out for them. You go to
a team and and for what it's worth, who does
I mean, they got McCaffrey, but I mean he could
he could get meaningful.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Down Elijah Mitchell, Jordan Mason, and.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
They could get he could go get meaningful downs and
in and offensive schemes that you can limit the amount
of reps. You could limit his workload and get more
out of them. He showed he can get tough yards. Still,
he's good in block pros like pad what past blocking
process whatever?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
How you say it's yeah, past pros. Sorry.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
So he's he's he's aware, he's he's knowledgeable and and
things like that. I mean he could go somewhere and
have a rest of a productive career. He doesn't have
to be the feature guy. That's more to me, that's
more ego driven. It's like the whole backup quarterback deal.
Like it's more ego driven because otherwise you're in a

(25:50):
perfect opportunity, perfect position to have a fine pay a
super fine paying job, and you have limited thing to
do enroll. Everybody that makes it to the league doesn't
get an opportunity to be at the level that Ezekiel
Elliott was at at one point in time in his career.

(26:11):
So just be happy that you were ever there at
the point of being a franchise running back and got
awarded a franchise running backs contract before it got to
this point.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
He needs just under eighteen hundred yards to reach ten
thousand verst career. Do you think he gets it?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
No?

Speaker 8 (26:31):
So how many does he need?

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Just under eighteen hundred.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
He'll get it. Eighteen hundred yards. Yeah, yeah, the rest
of his career, he'll get it. I don't think so.
Okay at twenty seven, I mean he's he could go
for a while. He could.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Okay, don't think it's happening.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nope.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
I mean, look if he's.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
It's not a lot of yards. It's not a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:05):
May if he gets a you know, okay, there is
uh yeah. So if you can get to that ten
thousand yard mark, that's a that's an elite company. Uh,
he would have to uh Clinton Port it by the way,
Clinton Port is finished with three yards? What a pain
in the ass? That pesky? What is that? That pesky?

(27:29):
Seventy seven yards? He couldn't pick up Clinton portis. That's
gonna that's gotta haunt him. It's got to eat him
a little bit. But nonetheless, as Echil Elliott is still
you know what, I man, never mind, I'll ask coach
Skip about it at some point. It is two pros
and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox and you all right,
so we are gonna have another edition of You any

(27:50):
out as we close up shop here on a Monday morning.
Coming up here shortly, but for all the latest from
around the world of sports. A man who is looking
forward to the two most popular words this time of year,
Game seven, Edmund Garcia.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
I do like a game seven. I think most people.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Do you think you think the crack can get it done,
Eddie or what?

Speaker 8 (28:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (28:12):
I'm leaning that way. Yeah, I'm leaning that way. That
would be quite the final four as we talked about,
I think last.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Week, the crack House and the Golden Knights.

Speaker 9 (28:21):
Yeah, Seattle, Vegas, Carolina, Florida. Not too many had that
final four at the beginning of the season or the
end of the regular season.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
So those weren't None of the original six, Eddy, No original.

Speaker 8 (28:34):
Original six is now, that's for sure. That's for sure.

Speaker 9 (28:38):
Speaking of a Game seven, we had a Game seven
on Sunday, and hopefully the Game seven in hockey will
be a little better than the Game seven in the NBA. Sunday,
the Celtics cruise to a one to twelve eighty eight
win over the seventy six. Is Jason Tatum big reason
for the Boston victory fifty one points which is a
new record for a game seven in the NBA playoffs,

(28:59):
and Boston scored Philadelphia thirty three ten in the third
quarter to pull away and get the victory. Didn't help
Philadelphia that their top two players did not play very well.
Joel Embiid, the league MVP, had only fifteen points and
James Harden just nine points. Philadelphia loses the final two
games of the series to be eliminated. Their head coach,
Doc Rivers has lost ten game sevens in his NBA

(29:20):
coaching career. That's the most all time. Thatt I record
is double the most all time pat Riley had five
for Boston. They take that series in seven and they're
onto the Easton Conference Finals. They will face the Miami Heat,
the eighth seed. News from the NBA members Squzzy star
John Morant has been suspended from all team activities pending
a review by the NBA. Another video has come out

(29:42):
from Instagram over the weekend where he was flashing a handgun.
Of course, just a couple of months ago, there was
a similar video which resulted in eight game suspension for Morant.
He did undergo some counseling, apparently that didn't work. NHL
Stanley Cup Playoffs, Golden Knights beat the Oilers in Edmonton
five to two. Jonathan marchizoah hat trick for Vegas as
they have advanced to the Western Conference Finals, winning that

(30:03):
series four games to two. They await the winner of
that game seven between Seattle and Dallas, and for Edmonton losing,
they were the final Canadian team still alive.

Speaker 8 (30:13):
So no Canadian champion in the NHL.

Speaker 9 (30:15):
Last time was nineteen ninety three baseball games and no
we had the a's excuse me?

Speaker 8 (30:20):
The Rays beating the Yankees eight to seven.

Speaker 9 (30:22):
Tampa Bay now thirty one and eleven on the season,
best record in the Big Leagues. Blue Jays walk off
with a six to five win over the Braves, sweeping
the series from the NL East leaders. Toronto is twelve
and three at home this season. Dodgers shout out the
Padres four nothing. That's eleven straight series wins for La
over San Diego, Tony Gonslin and four Releave was combining
on a three at shutout four. The Dodgers Brewers wrap

(30:44):
up a sweep of the Royals with the nine to
six win. Cardinals sweep the Red Sox at Fenway nine
to one. They win the finale on Sunday, Rangers over
the A's eleven to three, Diamondbacks, edge of the Giants
two one, Pirate shutout the Orioles four nothing, Mitch Keller
their starting pitcher, seven shutout innings, thirteen strikeouts and no walks,
and the Twins.

Speaker 8 (31:01):
Trounce the Cubs sixteen to three.

Speaker 9 (31:04):
Now actor Brady Quinn, the barr Arrington and Jonas Knox
the Hireac dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
So Eddie got to ask you real quick, what's the
feeling of the buzz the scuttle bug, if you will.
On Connor McDavid. Is everyone saying he's just never gonna win. No,
he's Alex Ovechkin.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
I mean what we did win one?

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Yeah, but it took a long time.

Speaker 9 (31:25):
No, he did his part. I mean, you know, hockey,
it's a team sport. Their top two stars showed up,
you know, Dry Sidle and McDavid. But they need some help.
They need some other guys to step up a little bit.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
I mean, Eddie, is, where would you rank goaltenders in
hockey as compared to the importance amongst other players in
other sports.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
Well, they're very important, but if you look at the
goalies that are still around. None of the top goalies
are really I mean, Dallas has this guy Jake Ottinger. Yeah,
and he's really good, but he hasn't been good in
this series against Seattle and Sergei Bobrowski for flor He's
got the best resume because he's won a couple of ves,
but he didn't even start the series even start falling.

(32:07):
Now he is falling now, he is now. Bob, Bob's
getting it done.

Speaker 5 (32:11):
Bob so Connor McDavid though, best player in hockey still, oh.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's definitely the best.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Because Lebar and I were talking. We were saying, he's
no Sydney Crosby, that's for.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Sure, said the kid.

Speaker 8 (32:25):
Career wise, not yet, I would say, but he's still
got a few years left in Crosby.

Speaker 5 (32:30):
What is he top ten all time Crosby, Yeah, i'd
say so, okay, yeah, top five, top.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Nine, definitely in the top ten.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Okay, we'll take that and see Lebar tens are back even.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
But the cool thing about it is there's I mean,
he's in the top ten with another Penguin.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
You know.

Speaker 6 (32:48):
Yeah, so there me let me mury, let me.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Let me Jonas live.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Me just talking fuck here, Eddie. Yeah, yeah, So we
do know.

Speaker 8 (33:07):
How they pronounce it Ede, maybe some people do.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I don't know, well, I mean Jonas, how do you
pronounce the running backs coach in Tampa's name?

Speaker 5 (33:17):
I call him Skeep. But again, you guys know you're
not that comfortable with uh with my guy, Skip Pete,
so I call him Skeep. You know, by the way, Skip,
if you're listening, man, I apologize that I don't know
how that happened. It just uh across the streams are
a little bit. But nonetheless it is time though, for

(33:37):
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(34:08):
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Speaker 3 (34:11):
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Speaker 3 (35:33):
Two pros and a cup of show what you to know?
If they're in it, please or hit they're out? All right?

Speaker 5 (35:41):
Lead to lat bring it.

Speaker 11 (35:42):
This should be a fairly easy one to start at.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
You guys.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
We've got Game seven tonight Seattle Kraken at Dallas Stars.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
You guys in are out?

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Damn right?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
And I man in?

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Come on? Man who doesn't like Game seven and the
NHL playoffs playoff hockey? In fact, there's no NBA game on.
We need overtime. I don't think that's too much to ask.
I don't think we're being greedy here. A little Game seven,
get us some overtime? Be fun? Man, Yeah, it would
be yep, Lvar.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
You're in, right, I said, I'm in?

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah? You in on overtime too?

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Are you reaching for something here?

Speaker 6 (36:19):
No? I'm just I could put it in your hand
if you want. No, Jesus, I would just wonder. I
was curious if you were reaching.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
I don't want you to miss what else we got Lee?
What else we got Lee.

Speaker 11 (36:31):
Later in the week, you guys, May twentieth, we have
the Undisputed Lightweight Championship showdown at MGM between Hany and Loma.
You can catch a two part series of Blood, Sweat
and Tears. Are you guys into those behind the scenes
training camp for an upcoming boxing.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Match twenty four to seven started at all Yep Boyd
Mayweather back in the day.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
I love it. Yeah, is it the same, though?

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I feel like it's a little different now, like they
have their own way of doing it, and I don't
feel like any of the ones I've seen since then are.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
The exact Sam HBO's production was so good that nobody
hard for anybody to con.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
They back up the Brinks truck for those.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
All Access was really good on uh on showtime.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
Yeah, it's not bad.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
It was really good. I mean it was it was
definitely on point.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
I think you get the same people producing the same stuff,
you're going to get some really good some really good results.
So you know that's yeah, I'm in on that though.
I love the pregame like lead up movies, stuff like that.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Haney is going to be a great fight.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
It's going to be a great fight. Yeah, I was
gonna say, Lomachenko, Hanny's gonna be a great fight. Yeah,
you know what, you know what you were going to
say earlier, Q. I was thinking that I was going.

Speaker 6 (37:44):
To hear you say that Lomachenko and uh, you know
that Hani was going to be a good fight.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
You know.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
What else?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I did hear that was gonna be a good fight.
Let's let's let's skeep this real, keep going here.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
Okay, all right, LeVar, why did you call him coach Ski?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
I don't know, Skip Pete. You know there was some
reason why I called him skik coach Ski, you know
what I mean. There's a reason.

Speaker 11 (38:08):
Bella's Kanye has filed to trademark his new Yeezy sock shoes.
I know, if you're a big fan of the Yeasy
shoe line, you might be a fan of the sock shoes.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Guys in on sock shoes in or out.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I've never had a pair, Yeah, I've never had a pair.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
They basically look like socks yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Like the Balenciagas and stuff like that. Like, I get it.

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Aren't those like like those wet socks you wear when
you go swimming.

Speaker 8 (38:35):
That's exactly what they look like.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm out. And why would you? How
much are those going to go for? Like one to eighty?
You can go to Walgreens and get him for like
twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Have you guys not seen the big red boots that
are like a.

Speaker 5 (38:47):
Fashion I don't what are those? That's a joke, right,
what are those?

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I don't know. I'm not in on that. I can
say that. It's like, it's not a joke, it's real.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
It's like the big hat, those big head hats.

Speaker 11 (38:56):
I tried one of those the other day, which one
the big hats?

Speaker 2 (39:01):
The uh.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
Why for what?

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I don't know it was.

Speaker 11 (39:06):
It was it was sitting around, so I tried it on.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah not I'm not in on it.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
I'd say, I'm out.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
But how did it look?

Speaker 2 (39:14):
You know?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
There was no mirror around.

Speaker 8 (39:16):
I just asked who was.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Around with me? It just didn't feel right. No, so
he trusted Todd to give you it was.

Speaker 11 (39:23):
It was me and Todd. It was the guy at
the liquor store. Had had one.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
Eric at the liquor store. Yep, yeah, I had Eric
at the liquor store. What up Eric at the liquor store?
Like they just had a big hat line around the
liquor just tried it on?

Speaker 8 (39:44):
Yeah, I was like, can I try that on?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Man, I love Todd. I missed Todd.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Whoa who doesn't go? I don't Oh, I don't miss him.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Guys.

Speaker 11 (39:55):
Little Caesar's pretzel crust has made a comeback. You guys
into pretzel crust on your pizza in out.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
I love Pretzels, overrated anything pretzel save.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Save pretzels for pretzel. We don't need to do that.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Maybe a pretzel bun for Hamburger, But that that's where
it stops from me.

Speaker 5 (40:11):
Pretzel fun What about Like I haven't been there, but
I've heard of Mastros. They have a pretzel breadstone.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Oh they're pretzel Bridge. My kids love pretzel.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Bread You know he's lying to when he says that, right, Like,
I've literally given him gift certificates to Mastros?

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
I've got photo.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Evidence of Jonahs sitting at the bar taking pictures of
his beer with a napkin you're.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
The most that's what. Okay, I see what you're doing here. Okay,
thanks C. I appreciate you giving me that information. I
was just trying to keep you up on game man.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 8 (40:44):
These are just that's.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Cold blooded Jonahs. Why you're so.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
Deceptive, reckless allegations. I mean, I just was not familiar
with mastros. I've never been, so I just wanted to know.
I'm not listening.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
I'm not you know, first, pretzel bridge is the flame,
though the buttercake I showed y'all. I was eating buttercake yesterday.
But the pretzel bread is the flame.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
By the way, what is inside the buttercake? Is that pineapple?
Are there pineapple chunks inside the buttery?

Speaker 6 (41:13):
No, it's not. I don't know. I don't know what
it's made of. It's just I mean, it's you you need.
I was really going to say a substance of not
not flattering status of you. You do need help, Like
you got to go to buttercake, anonymous if you get
hooked on them because it's bad, it's bad, it's bad.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
How addictive those things.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I don't think there's any pineapple. I think you literally
made that up.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
No, I'm telling you there's something inside the butter.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
There's like a warm cream cheese filling. I think is
what it was, what you're thinking of.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
I don't know. It's not again feeling.

Speaker 6 (41:51):
There's no filling, though, is it. I don't know what
it is, man, it's just something. It's just weird. Is
one of the all time greats. I don't know how
they make it. I don't know why it's made the
way it is. But God, leave bro, I'll be ready
to take all my clothes off it.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Eat that buttercake. I'll eat. I'll eat a buttercake, button naked,
button naked.

Speaker 5 (42:15):
I mean, why not at this point?

Speaker 6 (42:19):
How would you know about all of that anyway? If
you ain't never ate there by the way exactly.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Yeah, I like that. I don't understand what that is.

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