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So the Buffalo Bills are in kind of this weird
spot seemingly, and we've talked about this at various points
during the offseason that just something seems a little off,
you know, it just seems like there's you know, things
are a little off there. Well, apparently we now know
what the problem was, or at least what the problem
was the last time the Bills stepped on a field.
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The problem was they don't play in a dome. That
according to Isaiah McKenzie, the former Bills wide receiver who's
now in Indianapolis Colt, who spoke with Golong's Tyler Dunn
and talked about the issues that the Bills had when
it came to playing in Buffalo in that playoff game
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and what their problem was against the Cincinnati Bengals, saying, quote,
the Bengals ran basic routes. Maybe we should have did that,
ran basic routes like out routes, go balls, you know,
instead of running routes that you have to be going
lateral or coming back to the football or turning and
running curls and things like that. If we were in
a dome, it would have been a totally different game.
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End quote from Isaiah McKenzie. Now, Jamar Chase also saw
this via social media and said it was the first
time he'd ever played in snow. You just got to
play at the end of the day. So it feels
like the Bills might have themselves a problem if what
Isaiah McKenzie is saying is true, because they are building
a new stadium and that too will not have a dome.
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So we could be looking at like forty to fifty
years now of problems for the Buffalo Bills every time
weather is an issue there up in the up in
New York and upstate New York there.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, I mean, look, there's some truth what isam McKenzie saying.
I mean, if they were there a dome, it would
have been a different game for both teams. I'm not
necessarily sure that would have played to the Bills advantage though,
because it wasn't so much the weather factor that I think,
and I'll get to that in a second. It wasn't
so much the weather factor that really stood out. It
was the lack of physicality that the Bills offensive and
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defensive lines played with. And that was the biggest glaring difference,
And that was the biggest mismatch. I thought the Bills
were going to have going into it and be able
to beat the Bengals with it. That was what was
surprising about it. So they could talk about the weather conditions,
But like, that is your home field advantage in Buffalo? Right, Like,
isn't weather supposed to be like where you excel and
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you're able to take advantage of that at home if
your Buffalo Yes, I mean, if if I'm part of
the Bills mafia and I'm hearing a player say that,
I'm thinking to myself, this is good. Like this is
this is supposed to be our wheelhouse. This is like
our home field advantage. You put a dome on that,
it all goes away and now we're just trying to
rely on winning, I guess, and beating someone in a shootout?
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Is that what you'd rather have? Either way? I just
it's it's funny sinks of the Bengals comments coming out
of it, you know, Jamar Chase saying it's the first
time you know he's he's played, and that's those sort
of conditions. Tyler Boyd, I think, had a little more
choice words for Isay McKenzie and and then the truth
of the matter is it, you know, this is gonna
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be a great matchup moving forward. Whenever we see the
Bills Bengals square off, it's it's gonna be appointment television
for that. But also, like, what's the excuse going to
be if the Bengals continually, you know, take take advantage
of the Bills if they end up you know, all
of a sudden just having the Bill's number almost similar
to how Burrow to a degree minus last year kind
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of had Kansas City's number as the starting quarterback for
the Bengals. Like, what is the narrative change to then?
At some point, I think for the Bills, they've got
to get over this hump and and maybe this year
because they don't have the expectations that were placed on
them last year, they'll be able to go into the
season and not feel the weight of the world and
not be the betting favorite to go win a Super
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Bowl and maybe that'll allow them to play a little
more free, a little more loose. But it does feel
like something's missing. Yeah, you know, Leslie Frasier takes a
step back as their defensive coordinator, you know, Ken Dorisy
in his first year. I think, I'm sure there's some
things that they would like to do better, and there's
some things they're going to be you know, trying to
you know, improve upon. I think finding more balance, you know,
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would be one of those things. Who knows where Stefan
diggs Head's at. You feel like it might be in
a good place, but the season, it didn't feel like
it ended that way. I feel like there's a lot
of question marks around this team. And I'm not saying
that they're not going to be the best in the
division because of those questions, But it feels like there's
a momentum, there's hype. There's a lot of offseason moves
that were made for other teams. Now you've got some
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legit competitors in the NFC East.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
You and I were texting during the game, and I
remember this. We were texting during that matchup between Cincinnati
and Buffalo in the playoff game, and it was early
on when since he went down and scored and went
up seven to nothing, and we were even saying to
each other, Hey, this is over. Like you could just
tell that the Bengals were a better team that day.
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You could. There was just there was a vibe to
it to where they had to pan up to DeMar
Hamlin and show them arriving at the stadium and they
did a close up shop a shot and it was
almost like they were using that to fuel the Bills.
And I'm thinking to myself, Man, if you're going that
direction here when you're at home in a playoff game
to try and get this team ready to go when
Cincinnati's going up and down the field on them, that's
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a problem. And then just the outburst from Stefan Diggs
at the end of that game, just there's just something off,
and I think, you know, it's also why you pointed
out that Listen, everybody wanted to celebrate, you know, the
selection of Dalton Kincaid in that draft, but it did
feel like was that really where you wanted to go, Like,
especially based on how this eason ended. I don't know, Man,
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I wonder and look, they've got the quarterback, so at
least they're gonna, you think, and the feeling would be
there would be in contention. I just wonder if we've
looked at a team and a franchise, it's peaked a
little bit, and maybe they're on the backward slide, because
if you ask me right now, clearly Kansas City Cincinnati
are one in one A in the AFC, and I
think the Bills have taken a step back, And it
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would not surprise me whatsoever if Buffalo finished third in
their division this year, behind Miami and the New York Jets,
would not surprise me whatsoever.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So you know, the drafting of the dalton Kin k
we talked about it, and I think I know the
direction obviously the Bills are going. We talked about the
difference in that game versus Cincinnati. That's how we've let
off this this segment. And if they're looking at doing
now with with dalton Kin kid as one tight end
and then Dawson Knox as the other, more of those
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two tight end twelve personnel sets, you know that might
be the direction they're going where we start to see
a fair amount of twelve personnel, not as much eleven,
not as much three wide receiver, one tight end, one
running back sets, because that's more the invoke thing that
everyone else is doing right now. And maybe Sean McDermott
steps back and says, we need to get back to
being able to control games by running the football whenever
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we want, but then off of that, having the play
action pass having the deep shots downfield, having the drop
back passing game, and these are all things that we
can do out of two tight end sets. Because of
Dulton KDE's ability to split out and split out almost
as a wide receiver, Dawson Knox can do some of
that too. But if we've got two guys we feel
really good about and two guys we feel like are
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good enough blockers, now, Knox is a better blocker than
Dalton Kincaid's gonna be. But that personnel grouping might be
the way they want to go about handling a lot
of the issues that surfaced during that Bengals loss heading
into the season, and maybe as everyone else goes one direction,
wanting to spread things out more and more eleven personnel,
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they're saying, let's get back some of those base personnel groupings.
See if we can't work on running the football better,
more play action, more things to protect Josh Allen from
not putting in a position where he's got to play Superman,
and maybe that's more of the directions. So look, they're
still the best team in the division. In my opinion.
I think the Jets now with Rogers, are right there.
It's just a matter of how fast they can all
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gel together. But it's going to be fascinating to watch
this season, like the kickoff of the NFL season can't
come soon enough.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah, it's going to be really fun. Here's what else
is really fun. We've got some Brady Quinn game show music.
Here are you ready for this?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
All? Right?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now that you've talked about this AFC East and you
just said, hey, you think Buffalo is still the best
team in the AFC East, So let me let me
ask you if you had the guess right now, right
what would you say the betting odds, courtesy of our
friends at DraftKings would be for the Bills to win
the AFC East. And in fact, what order do you
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project that Draft Kings and the betting market would say
this AFC East is going to shape up? Like what
would you say?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It'll say Bills, Jets, Dolphins, Patriots.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
That is correct, and the betting odds for the Buffalo Bills,
like I always.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Say, they are plus two hundred.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Plus one fifteen, so pretty close to even money. In
the New York Jets. With Aaron Rodgers and all the
buzz and the celebrations in the offseason and Zach Wilson
as the most discussed backup quarterback in the NFL, the
New York Jets at plus two eighty to win the
AFC East, That is juicy, juicy right for the pickings.
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Plus two to eighty for those New York Jets. I
like the Jets. Man, something's wrong in Buffer?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
You like the value there on the Jets. Yes, plus
to eighty.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I mean they're just.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Because it's plus two eighty doesn't mean it's it's great value.
I mean we could get into the season, you know,
based on their schedule lease which we can kind of
comb through that we're gonna see them on primetime a
decent amount. Maybe they stumble a little bit, right, and
if they ended up opening up one and two one
in three, you would have the opportunity to probably get
them a little better value at that point. But uh, look,
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I think they're probably closer to a favorite to Buffalo
than those odds display, but I don't know how much
closer until we actually see them play.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, well, I'm not waiting that long. I may pull
the trigger on this right away. I'm just letting you
know right now, and I would listen. I don't know
if we can bet the exact result, but the way
I'm feeling right now, I got Jets, Dolphins, Bills, and
Patriots in that order finish. And it would not surprise
me if the Buffalo Bills didn't make the playoffs. How's
that you want a hot take? It would not surprise
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me if the Bills don't make the playoffs. And that,
by the way, pays out plus one ninety.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Five, So that's that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Just throw it out. Just throw it out.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think they're gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
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Later on this hour, we are going to have an FSRR,
a Monday tradition. Things in the world of sports and
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but a little venting session, if you will, So we'll
have that for you again a little over twenty minutes
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from now here from the Tyraq dot Com studios. I
think Jim Mersey might have been a happy hour on Friday,
just based on just some of his activity on social media.
So we talked about and you talked about your experiences
with the great Jim Brown who passed away at the
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age of eighty seven, and so Jim Mersey decided to
pop off social media on Twitter like he likes to do,
and said, on my list of top five greatest NFL
players of all time in our one hundred and three
year history, I have my top five is Jim Brown,
Tom Brady, John Elway, Deacon Jones, and Reggie White. It's
a great list, great list, all great players, and I
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think a lot of people look at those guys and
goes and they say to themselves, hey, can't argue with
a lot of those except for the fact that, you know,
Peyton Manning was nowhere to be found. He went on
to say that he had no doubt because I think
he got some pushback because Peyton Manning did play there
for quite some time there in Indianapolis. That no doubt Peyton,
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Barry Sanders, and Jerry Rice are in the top ten.
It's just that Elway didn't have great offensive players around
him till the end when he won two in a row,
and his feet were remarkable from baseball talent. So he
defended and doubled down putting John Elway on his top
five list over Peyton Manning. The same John Elway who
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refused to play for the Colts organization back when Jim
Mersey's dad was around and owned the team. But still
that's the same guy that you would put in over
one Peyton Manning. So I mean, look, it's his top
five list. Who cares. He can say whatever he wants,
But it just I do wonder if there's some sort
of an issue there between him and Peyton Manning. Jim
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Mersay feels like there's a little bit of a divide
there between those two.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I mean, let's let's go back to when Peyton Manning left.
I mean then they did release him. Yeah, I mean
at the bottom line is you can look at that
however you want. When you're released from a team, there's
another term. They call it jotas. Do you know what
that term is?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Cut?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Cuts? You know what the other term is, what's that fired?
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
When they bring you, hey, bring your playbook? Right like
that whole conversation, they are releasing you. They are cutting you.
They are in essence firing you because you're under a contract.
You're no longer that they're no longer under any obligation
to pay you for your services. That's what that is.
So we can call it a bunch of different things,
but they did part ways in an amicable way, and
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the neck injury and the I guess maybe hesitation to
want to commit to Peyton moving forward, given that they
had the number one overall draft pick Andrew luck happened
to be that generational prospect that they were going to
go draft. All the stars aligned for the Colts too
at that moment. Move on, and I think Peyton going
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to Denver doing what he did in Denver, getting to
two Super Bowls, winning one, having it maybe the greatest
season we've ever seen or one of the greatest seasons
we've ever seen during his time there, but really putting
together an offensive you know, fire power at that group
was remarkable, and it almost was maybe even showing jim
irsay like, yeah, I still I still got this, I
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could still do this? Then were still or excuse me?
Peyton still lives in Denver to this day. He's been
going to the Western Conference final games. So I kind
of look at it and think, yeah, maybe there's some
a little bit of bitterness there or discontent just with
the how things ended and how he had to transition
to another team. But it's just odd. I mean, someone
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who has meant so much, especially not only to the franchise,
but just to Jim Ersay specifically, and you put Tom
Brady on there, who obviously is gonna be on the
list because he's arguably the greatest of all time, But
that was your ARCS nemesis, right, Like if Jim Irsay
came out had Peyton ranked ahead of Tom Brady, like
everyone would be understanding. Yeah, you know, like I don't
think they would have, you know, sat there and and
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really second guessed anything. So it's just it's a bit
odd that he felt the need to do that. I
know it was motivated by the pass of jimut and
so obviously it was paying a compliment to Jim Brown.
But you know, Peyton Manny didn't have to catch astray
just because Tim Ersay wanted to put a put out
a tweet.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
It's just it's weird, I mean, And if you just
for anything other than the fact that, like, where were
the Indianapolis Colts before Peyton Manning arrived? They were just
kind of whatever, Like I mean, they were you know,
they didn't have a ten win season for like twenty
years or thirty years or no, it was twenty years.
And then Peyton Manning got there and they had that
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down year, his rookie season, but I think everybody felt like, okay,
but at least they're heading in the right direction. So
they go from a twenty year run where they're winning
at best nine games a year. Peyton Manning gets there
and all of a sudden, they're a perennial super Bowl
contender pretty quickly, and we're a super Bowl contender for
over a decade. He was there thirteen years and he
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was only in Denver for four, And to your point,
it feels like there's a more more of a connection
with Denver and his four years spent there playing. Then
there was Indianapolis, when look, he got him a super Bowl,
they went to another one. I just I don't understand, Like,
I really don't it. Like and if it was, if
it was an amicable split, you would think Jim Mersay
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would be happy about the fact that, hey, look Peyton
Manning went on he had success elsewhere. But we're both
in agreement that he's going to walk away and he's
going to go find work elsewhere. And then it's not
like you were sitting there searching for a quarterback. You
had Curtis Painter and Company. When Peyton Manning was out
that year with the neck injury, and you ended up
landing Andrew Luck and sorry that Andrew Luck decided to
retire early on the sidelines of a preseason game. But
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it felt like everything the transition was set up smoothly
on both sides. Yet for some reason, Jim Mersey still
has some sort of a bone to pick.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
It seems like I'm not gonna go with that far,
but I think.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
He hates his guts. How about that? Can I go
that far?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I mean, that's how that's how you basically let off
the show. You talking about Joe Missouligan canned, still haven't
really gotten over that.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Tell him truth here?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Well, the truth is if if you think about just
how humans typically react when I mean, look, there was
a lot of teams who threw in their hat he
were clamoring for paid manning. There was only a handful
that ultimately, truly he was probably going to go to
or maybe was interested in, and dedver ended up being
the team that was able to give him everything he wanted.
(19:19):
You know, John Fox and John Elway and Adam Gaze,
the rest of the crew who brought him in. They
were willing to adapt Mike McCoy as a part of
that group. They were willing to adapt to the offense
that Peydon wanted to bring, and I don't know that
many other places were willing to do that. They took
a chance on him, knowing that there could be a
potential issue with his neck. He had to have a
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number of surgeries, but they were the ones to be
able to invest in him, take a chance in him,
build that roster around him. I'm sure he had a
ton of influence and into what they were doing too
in the front office, I mean everything, and he probably
looked at that thing to myself. Man and by the way,
it's an awesome place to live, not saying Indianapolis isn't,
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but it was more of like that city. That team
and organization opened themselves up to him in his most
vulnerable time. If there was ever a time where Paydon
Manning it felt vulnerable in his career, it was coming
off the neck injury, and the Denver Broncos opened up.
They gave him everything he wanted and ultimately they had.
He had a ton of success during that time frame.
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And I think that's too where you see now where
it's like it's it'd be hard to look back at
Indian not you know, feel a little bit of discontent
or bitterness even with all the success and all the
time that he spent there. That's just human nature.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
But I'm looking at Peidon Manning's run, like his first
three years in Denver, good god, man, it was incredible,
Like good god, I'm just and it was really that
three year because the final year obviously he dealt with
the he was injured when they finally won that Super Bowl.
But from twenty twelve to twenty fourteen, like he lit
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the league up. Yeah, like he was MVP twice I believe,
or did he did he win MVP? I know he
won once.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I know he was All Pro both two of those
three years, prob obviously for all three. But yeah, I
mean he's he played as good as anyone. When you
throw forty almost fifty five hundred yards, like, yeah, that's
pretty ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Fifty five touchdowns, ten picks, unbelieved, Like you just you
go back and you think about that. I can't believe
it's been a decade, by the way, but you go
back and you just think about how great those teams
were with you know, Demrius Thomas and Eric Decker and
those guys.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
And when I think he went on MVP was second, yeah, second.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, I'm seeing that here, so uh but yeah, so
apparently that is the situation Jim Mersay, who likes to
fire off some tweets and ruffle some feathers on social
media from time to time. It is two pros and
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and you and I are just cruising around after the
show and we're out there, you know, you know, like
watching the ponies making some picks and we're winning. We're
feeling I mean like we're feeling good. Like people are
trying to take pictures with us, I mean mostly you,
and they're asking me to hold the camera. But it
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felt like I had finally figured out this horse betting
and horse racing thing. I felt like really coming to
my groove. You found it out, and since then there's
nobody worse at anything on planet Earth than me picking
horses to win races.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I would say betting in general, you're pretty bad at.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Noah, I feel like horse racing is really where I struggle,
like some of the other sports. I feel like, you know,
I found a groove. Look I called the Heat. I
said the Heat would win that series. I said it
would be in six games. But unfortunately it doesn't look
like it's going to get to six games with the
Boston Celtics. But when it comes to horse racing, awful,
absolutely awful. One of the horses I picked this week
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and I thought, look, that was what a seven or
seven or eight horses in the race at the at
the Preakness over the weekend. One of the horses that
I picked finished dead last. But at that point don't
even show up to the race.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, I mean you should probably just quit betting too.
That's part of it.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Well where's the fun in that?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I mean, I don't know. It was a hell of
a race, though, I'll say that much. Was the thing
I appreciated the most though, and it's it's I'm forgetting
who finished second, but the jockeys down the stretch.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
BLAZINGNS finished second because I also bet on Blazing Blazing Sevens.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
That's how I know that to win it. Yes, of
course you did, yes, But it was it was down
the stretch when his jockey was kind of you know,
bumping into and kind of created some contact with Jose Velasquez,
and I just I was watching thinking to myself, like
this is you know this there should I thought they
were gonna make some sort of disqualification because it seemed
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like there was a lot of intent, at least on
the side of Blazing Sevens as the horse came into them.
But either way, may Age was the favorite going into
it couldn't really get anything going down the final stretch,
I mean started to make a move, make a run,
and I know the first half of the leg was slow,
which somehow in talking to the ownership group of Mage,
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it seems like they were upset about that and they
didn't maybe like how the horse was positioned. Either way,
it doesn't matter National Treasure and a hell of a
race wide or wire winning that thing.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
So let me ask, So you're trying to say the
Blazing sevens was cheating a bit there, trying to trying
to get a little bit of an advantage.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh, they were trying to get Yeah, I mean go
back and watch it. Yeah, the way there's kind of contact,
there were kind of you know at Chicken Wing two,
back and forth.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So so the horse that I picked a win not
only did it not win, but also tried to cheat
and still didn't win.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
It probably should have been disqualified.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Yeah, it's just it's I'm so I'm so tamed.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I mean, they say Rubbins racing, but that was I
don't know, that was a little much.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'm so terrible at it. Look, and I'll say this
for people that you don't want to, you know, dismiss
horse racing. And there's a lot of stuff, ugly stuff
that goes on with horse racing, whether it's the peds
that we've talked about, when the horse is dying, and
all the other fun stuff that comes along with that.
When you get a race like that down the stretch,
it is phenomenal television to be and just imagine being
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there live. It's really really fun. So I don't know
if your girls are into the ponies or into the
horse racing, but that might be something that you.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Oh, no, they their appearents they love horse racing. Here's
the problem. Last time I tried to take my youngest
who was too young she's now three, Cassidy. She was
so upset she couldn't go down and ride the horses,
and there was like nothing we could do to console her. So,
like we try to take her to the paddocks because
we want her to see the horses, but then she
was mad that she couldn't like ride them like she
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literally and maybe she is the same size as jockey,
so that's why she kept looking and like yelling at
the jockeys because she wanted to turn, and so she
was yelling at them for not giving her a turn
on the horse, and it was hard. It's hard to
explain at that point. This is like over a year ago,
basically a two year old to be able to explain
to her why she can't ride the horse because she's
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been to other little you know, the zoo or somewhere
else where she has. So I learned that lesson, there's
no chance you should be taking a two year old
ever to the horse track, even though they didn't think
it was cool. It's fun to see the horses run,
but she just couldn't understan why she couldn't ride it.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
And now, now what was the move to calm her down?
Did you just like show her, like take her in and.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Buy I literally went and said, all right, where's your
next ten thousand and twenty thousand dollars horse claiming race?
And I debated trying to get an ownership group there
around us to go buy the horse, just so my
daughter would stop crying and so that we could we
could just move on with the rest of our day.
Do you get I was, I was talking to people
in the crowd. I said, all right, who's in on
this let's go buy a horse, all right, wheneveryone finish
is dead last. Maybe we can get a discount and
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we'll just let our kids go ride on that because
there were a few other kids who are at the
race as well.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Only ten to twenty thousand dollars, that's it. I thought
it would be a lot more expensive than that. Wasn't
didn't the horse that won the derby a couple of
years ago, what was it like fifty thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So I don't even know if it was that much.
I thought it might be like a thirty, but it
might have been a fifty.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Wow. Yeah, and turned into well, you got to.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Think if you've got a horse that's running in a
fifty thousand dollars claiming race and it finishes dead last,
that owner might be willing just to part ways with
it for a much, you know, much lower fee.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Great point. It's like a used car at that at
that end.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah too, that or the glue factory.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Oh, come on, by the way, is there any truth
to that? Like when horses move on or run their
final time in life, take their last lap if you will,
like does it really?
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I don't know, I have no idea. I mean, I think,
you know, typically that's where we'd have Lee efforting something
like this. I do think Eddie and Burto would be
good people to ask in this regard though. Berto's got
some inside information on how this stuff works.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, for the the glue factory. When it comes to horses, yeah,
we will, we will effort some of the information on that.
Maybe a spokesman from Elmer's will chime in at some
point in time.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
But rubber cement, like, what is rubber cement fall in
the mix there?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But does anybody use
Elmer's anymore? It seems like it doesn't work. Elmer's comes
out vehemently saying no horses are used in their glue. Okay,
so Elmer's a horse the label.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Then that's a good question, Hayley.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Is that a horse? Is that a horse on the
Elmer's glue? I thought it was a cow on.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
The It was a horse back in the days, And
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, if it is, it's a pretty cruel prank
to play. It's a joke that glue always smelled good. Yeah,
you've ever seen kids eat that? In Classer's glue? Like nasty.
I don't know how anybody, but yeah, there's something about it.
When you smelled it, you're like, oh, it's arts and cracks. Yeah,
(31:44):
like that is stuck to old macaroni when you're making
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the FSR IR report, all right, Bradon.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Quinn, It's just up to me, because you never have
an IR story.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
I got an IR I just you know what called
being polite. I'm starting to notice as my son gets
older that he's a lot like me.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
There's there's a lot of things aggressive.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
No, no, no, that's that's not the case. No, that's
not the case. He just decided. He's at this point
where he just decides, no, I don't want to eat,
not doing it. I'll make him stuff. I'll have everything
lined up. I'll put it together. I'm not the world's
greatest chef in the world, but you know, I'll get
them all dialed in. I'll have some fruit, I'll have
(34:15):
a little tiny piece of toast. I'll have some some
eggs with some no salt seasoning at it on, you know,
a little little you know, missus dash thrown in there.
I've got it all lined up for him and ready
to go. Hey, buddy, what do you think We'll give
this one to give this one a whirl, and he'll
do this no, no, no no, and wave his finger
at me like he's de kembe matumbo. I swear to God.
(34:38):
Well that's just the move.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You know how kids learn, right, How's that they watch
their parents?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, So one of the tricks that I learned is
if you want your kids eat, sometimes you have to
sit down and eat with them. Yeah. It makes it
a little easier for them than to watch what their
dad's doing and their mom's doing and then eat as well.
So I think that might be something where you're not
gonna like it, but you might have to change your habits.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Back right the inner and fasting probably not the best
move for a child at two years old. So yeah,
I've noticed that there's just other little things to where
I'm like, ah, where's he get that from? Then I realized, oh, man, yeah,
that's that's me. Like, that's that's something that I would do.
Its gets frustrated at something, you know, if he's if
he's trying to get stuff done and things are you know,
(35:20):
being a distraction, he'll get frustrated and then just sort
of walk away at a pure anger, Like I just
like these little things pop up throughout the course of
the day with him that I realized, Man, that's some
stuff I probably got to work on. You know, all
these years later, I finally figured it out. Who needs
therapy when you got that to be reminded of? So
there's that.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Well, my issue is last night I went to a
very nice dinner with my in laws and my wife,
and I ate so much food I had I had
to literally leave the table and go for a walk.
I was like, I was uncomfortably full and I haven't
done that in a long time. And as always walking,
(36:00):
I was thinking to myself, why do you do this?
Like like why And I know why. It's because I
don't get many opportunities to go out and really go
to that particular restaurant and really enjoy. But every single
step the way, I'm the exact opposite of your ir
story because I was so uncomfortably full and I just
I had to take a walk. I think I walked
(36:20):
like half a mile about. It was kind of a
sort and all sorts of things, I mean everything from
from sushi to the guy I had some tacos mixed
in there at one point and banada as well. It
might have been at half a Burger that was down
to one point, so it was there was a lot
of food. I really didn't eat yesterday until that meal,
(36:41):
So yeah, so what's wrong with that? So well, because
I felt like probably how a snake feels when it
tries to beat like an alligator and it's like trying
to swallow older.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
But you knew during the course of the meal that
you needed to stop, and you just.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Could there's no chance. I was like, well, I know
there's another course coming out, and I know how good
that's gonna be, so I'm gonna keep eating that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
I like sometimes there's the struggle, Like I learned if
you at a certain restaurants that have bread rolls when
they bring the bread out.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, get Mastress where you tend to go.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
You know, I've actually never been there. I don't know
what that's like. How is that place?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
It seems like, yeah, I've set your gift cards there,
so you must have regat.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
I don't know. It's not true, you know that, but yeah,
I've I've run into that issue where you get your
stuff up on bread and and all the other fun
stuff that comes along with it, and the next thing
you know, the meal comes out, and then do you
take stuff home to go? Are you one of those
you go doggy bag route or.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
You I for sure will, But like last night, I
wasn't leaving anyone, but there's no one left behind. If
there was, if there was something on the table, I
was cleaning that up. I was not gonna I mean,
the food was too good.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
So because I'm I'm more I'm into the doggy bag route, like,
I'll eat a portion of the meal and then I
don't like to eat the whole thing, and then I'll
just take the rest home and then pick at it
later on.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I like to pick You know, we should never eat
in the same room that I would make fun of
you for not eating at that moment the rest of
the meal.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Just half it up, you know.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
It's like the least masculine thing you could do.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, but every other element of my day is all
about masculinity.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
It's really not it is. I mean, can I get
Burto to weigh in on.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
This, everything from the weightlifting to everything that comes along
with that.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
I bet Burto would rather eat it than take it
to go and wait till later.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Berto, you're not a doggy bag guy. Actually no, I'm
not going to sit there and need the whole thing.
I can't. I want it the same day. They'll eat
it the next day. Yeah, you take it home.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
That's just disgraceful someone for someone who loves food as
much as you do. Berto, that's so disappointed.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I can't. I can't eat like I used to. I
have one meal a day.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
I tried yesterday and it did not work out well. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
By the way. And the older you get, the more
you realize how much we were lied to growing up.
We breakfast is the most important meal in the day.
And you eat three meals a day. Man, my ass,
when's the last time you guys actually had three meals
a day?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
It's it's probably Saturday, wasn't that. I mean? For being real,
here's what I will say to that though, for kids
you and again like this is just from experience. I've
got four. Look, when kids don't eat, they get in
bad moods. That's what they act out. That's what they
act out. Yes, you got to you gotta continually give
them an energy source. Yes, they stay consistent. That's why
(39:23):
they need three, four, five snacks, meals whatever you want
to call them a day.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
And and I'm also I've seen with my son like
I had this where when I was a kid, if
I would have a bull of cereal, I would eat
part of it and then I'd walk away and do
something and then I would come back. So I would
like in intervals, like I was always like that as
a kid, Like I think my body would just tell me, man,
if you go, if you go that hard and you
finish off the rest of the bull, You're not gonna
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feel great, So I would just I would leave for
like ten fifteen minutes and come back.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
So going hard for you is not finishing a bull series.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That's how that was my thought process as a kid. Like,
that's how I just I thought about it. I just
I didn't want to eat the entire thing. I just
felt like, any cereal get a headache, all the sugar
like headache from cereal? All the sugar, Yeah what yeah,
give me a headache.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Sugar gives you headaches?
Speaker 3 (40:11):
Well, yeah, when you're pre diabetic, it's probably not sugar cereal.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, it's probably live. You don't have to tell us
all of your medical conditions.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Anyone sees good though. By the way.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I never heard anyone tell me sugar gets him a headache,
though it.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Burna makes it seem like he's about to get a
hand removed. Wait, come on, man, everything's fine.
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