May 24, 2023 • 38 mins
The guys explain how negatively the new fair catch rule affects the NFL. Eagles GM Howie Roseman takes on ‘conspiracies’ about Jonathan Gannon’s departure. Plus, the mid-week awards on ‘The Good, The Bad & The Ugly,’ and the correct pronunciation of Albany.
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Antonio Brown return potentially for the arena temy owns. Got
some guy busting my balls because I pronounced it Albany
and not Albany. Apologies, apologies to again our fine affiliate
AM nine eight nine eight ninety five.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Sorry, how are you pronouncing it?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I said to Albany and not Albany.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Albany. Yeah, that's so weird. Why would you ever look
at that word and think Albany.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Because there's one L.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
I'm just saying, like, no one pronounces it ever though, Albany,
and there's.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Plenty of examples.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's simple, it's that's sensible, though, Jonas, there's one one one.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Ale would say, aw.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Thanks Var, it's like basketball, you don't call it the issue.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Two Als would be all now, this is This is
because Jonas grew up on the West coast.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And do you know what the state capital New York is?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What's that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
But you know your state capitals when you learned them
when you were in first grade or whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
You know it's all be in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Do you know what the state capital of Ohio is?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, here's my ass that's what it's called state capital
of Ohio. All right, sorry for mispronouncing albany as albany
or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Point is we appreciate everybody listening, and mistakes are made
here on Oh.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Would you Jonas?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I mean, you're going to say benny, right, but you
ain't going to say the first part right, you don't
say you don't say a A l as all you don't.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Okay, Well, we don't need all the different issues with
the pronunciation of the English language, or for example, you
know when you say swan.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
M hmm, you don't say it's plural and singular.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Like my daughter asked me a question the other day
word and I was like, oh gosh, this is going
to be difficult because you know, for a six year old,
it's like it's not going to make any sense to her.
She's like, wait, that words pronounced the same way as
this word, but they mean two different things.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I'm like yes, and she's like huh. I'm like yeah,
I know. I was like, it's the English language and
none of it really ever makes it like moves, right,
isn't that the same thing with mooves? There you go, Well,
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Speaker 6 (03:39):
Hey, you said those words correctly.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah yeah, talking about Okay, all right, so you guys
ready for the NFL to to go ahead and start
making some major changes.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
It red all right, so the lot my hubcap.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
So NFL owners approved the new fair catch rule in
the NFL, in which basically, if you decide to fair
catch it in between anywhere before the twenty four point
nine yard line, you're just going to go ahead and
get the ball at the twenty five yard line. So
they already do this in college football. But the idea,
and this was talked about yesterday, is again they want
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to improve player safety and they feel like this move,
which they're calling a quote unquote trial run only for
one year, this move, they feel like, is going to
reduce the number of concussions by fifteen percent because it's
going to entice players to maybe not bring the ball
out if it's kicked short, just take it on the
twenty five and then move on with your lives. And
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it just feels like this is another step in the
direction of the walls closing in and them trying to
get rid of one of the most exciting plays in
football that we've seen a lot of exciting players be
a part of and have major impacts on games and
their careers, whether it be Devin Hester or Bryan and Mitchell,
you name it. And yet here we are the NFL
is trying to eliminate it all for the sake of
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player safety.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Do we know the percentage on amounts of like in
terms of you said the percentage going down by fifteen percent.
I would be curious as to how many how many
concussions because you know, my major concussions when I got them,
were on special teams. I wonder what the percentage of
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special teams concussions are to the entire hole. Okay, it's
probably been receiving receivers getting hit defenseless or considered to
be the defenseless, or targeting or whatever it may be.
And then it would have to be special teams, And
I wonder would actually be the.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Kickoff is number one. I believe it's the most dangerous plays.
Is one of the reasons why they're trying to make
this change, even though it's it's to the disliking of
most special teams coaches that are in the NFL. One
of the reasons is they the way they go about
kicking them more order kicks, so they'll kick it basically
with a bunch of air, because a lot of these
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kickers are strong enough to be able to kick it
out of the end zone. But now they'll kick it
with enough air to try to get that ball caught
somewhere between you know, the goal line and the five,
and then they can cover down enough so now they're
not getting the ball, you know, out at the twenty five,
they're gonna.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Get the fifteen to twenty something like that.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
You know, that's kind of become more of the style
that you've seen attempted in college and then probably a
little better executed at times even in the NFL. And
that's the thing is you're probably gonna get more of
that because and LaVar, you know, this like an extra
ten five yards. It may not seem like a lot
to the people on the outside, but that's the difference
between you have to stop.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
An additional first down.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Like, that's the difference between a team potentially going forward
on fourth down and a defense having to face you know,
four down territory verse three down.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
And being able to get off the field.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
And those numbers add up obviously over the course of
a game and of the course of a season. And
that's why I think there's some people who are like
that this is you know, taking it a step, maybe
a little bit too far, even though it's in the
best interest of player safety.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
So look, they're not gonna get rid of the.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Kickoff because otherwise, like what the hell you're gonna call
the game or the start of the game. It's it's
kind of been the most like ceremonial thing ever that
just it just it's too it's too much part of
the game, right kick If you didn't have the kickoff,
That's what I'm saying, is like I don't know, I
can't picture in my mind what it would look like
because you have this big, like you know, the crowd
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getting intense, getting excited, the guy's sway, and the kicker
puts his hand up, he gets ready to go, and
it's just there's this whole like moment of time where
you're like that's the beginning of it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's part of the vernacular. Hey what times kickoff? Now,
we're just gonna get that.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
But it's more about even just being there and the
feeling of it, Like it's almost like literally that a
shotgun started at a track race, Like that's the start,
Like you know, that's the moment when you hear the
ball literally being kicked and the entire crowd's like it's
just it's a feel to it. And if you took
that away, I think it killed a live game experience.
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It'd be those awkward thing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Ever, Yeah, I mean, it would probably feel like a
scrimmage for some reason. Or I mean, would people adapt
and adjust if they did adjust it out of the game.
I'm certain that the fan base would adapt and adjust,
But to a purest I do think that that would
be a difficult It would be difficult adjusting and adapting
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to not having a kickoff. But I don't know, man,
it just seems like that is it definitely is a
dangerous part of the sport. Is definitely a part of
the sport that you could say if if you found
ways to minimize it or even not do it, you're
you're you're basically preserving the health of a lot of guys.
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You know, I don't know, it's just it's such them
guys are moving so fast and they're hitting so hard.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
You know. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I'll tell you why it's not already out of the game.
Because how many starters do you actually have on special teams?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Not many, you know. Usually your core special teams.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Guys are the ones that are set up in your
L four L five R four L A R five.
Those are the guys who are set up to make
the tackle, make the play.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
And it's those core.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Special teams guys that are backups on defense and offense
are the ones that are are typically the ones that
are out there playing special.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Teams and getting hurt, you know, if you had.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Like again, we see all sorts of rule changes to
protect quarterbacks because people tend to think, well, hey, these
are the face of the franchise, face of the league.
However you want to do it, so you know, they've
count you know, callous times, I mean changed rules to
help protect the quarterback. This isn't as much of a
sense of urgency because it's not that important of a
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position in the minds.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Of the rules makers.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I mean, at what point do you just accept the
fact that it's a violent game and like there's gonna
be stuff that you there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
In today's society, that's not it's not that's not that simple.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Can we make football like like kind of separate from
today's say, it's.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
A good point, because why do we view like miss
mixed martial arts. So we're not putting in safeguards necessarily
for that, yet we we do for football, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So you should then begin to take martial arts classes then,
because then you know, you would know martial arts better.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Great point, that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I just
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I look at it and to Brady's point, like that's
the signal of the start of a game, like the site,
the excitement, everything that comes along with it, the buzz,
and then it's just and now we're gonna you know,
it's it's like the guy from the office who gets
moved down or what's a office space that movie was
in Milton He gets moved down to the bottom and
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they just keep sort of closing the wall in. Finally
they just get to the point to where it's like, dude,
you no longer have a job here.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's over. Like it just feels like that's where the
NFL is trying to get.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
This instead of trying to eliminate the play all together
with you know, an advantage on the fair catch to
go out to twenty five. You know, they've they've changed
the way you know, punts are that play in particular
has been you know played, even kickoff formations. I would
wonder if they would ever look at trying to space
out players more in like a kickoff formation, to help
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reduce the amount of space in between both teams, because
because that's part of it too, is when you've got
a lot of space, guys building up speed and running
towards each other, it's just a big collision. And so
I wonder if there's a more creative way of trying
to you know, allow more kickoffs but not necessarily allowing
to be quite as much space between when they're doing this.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They did what what what league was that they did
it in? Was that the USFL, or.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Maybe and I'm sure you'll continue to see experiments done
in both the XFL and USFL as almost experimental leagues
or even even in the preseason.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
You know you might see some of that.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I get to ask you guys this, well, yeah, how
did they identify who was going to be the wedge breaker?
Was it the guy that seemed like he had a
little something wrong with him?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
And they said the breaker my freshman year?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Okay, that makes five the hash the hash guys, the wedgebuster.
It was the guy who had no neck.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
They're like, hey, get that guy. It looks like he's
a walking around like a battery.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
He has no he has no fear. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So Davis Mills with his Thermos neck would never be
the wedge breaker.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
That was his neck.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
If he wanted to really get a shorter neck, he'd
have to go be the wedge breaker back in the
old days.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
He would lose like eight inches off his neck.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
You'd have a normal neck by by by three seasons
into his career.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Being a wedge breaker.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Would be a trip watching a quarterback run down the hat.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
All of a sudden, you see Davis Mills racing at
the Kentucky Derby. You're just like, Hey, what happen to you?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Pal?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I played wedge By the way, we do have an update.
We have a wedge breaker on the show. Here, let's
go live to Lee to laugh who claims he was
a wedge breaker.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
Oh, I was a wedge breaker in the middle of
the wedge.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
And and they made me put on a horse collar
because I'd always knocked myself out for hurt my neck.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
This is explaining a lot of things. What high school
is this, Lee?
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Notre Dame high School?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Baby? Yeah, that's right, baby.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Have you talked about these stories with Todd? Was Todd's like, dude,
no way, I was a wedge breaker?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No way Todd played.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Did Todd say, hey, Lee, you think you could put
those football pants again one more time? Or put that
cowboy collar on again with with no no jersey only
when we're camping.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Though, Yeah, Todd, I think I played, you know, flag football.
I don't think he ever played real football.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
He seems like he might have been a wedgebuster too.
I mean, I don't know. Lee. How are you feeling now?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Do you do you still wake up some days and
have like fear of the fear of just break up
the way?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Do you ever wish you could go back and do
it again? Oh?
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Absolutely, no fear.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
No.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Just like LeVar said, you kind of had to.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Just God, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
How many times do you knock yourself out countless? Like like,
what are we saying here?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Like five?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Six?
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Oh, I mean once a once, I'll say that.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Give me your mindset was your running downfield if you
can remember. I know it's been a while, but give
me your mindset where you're just like biting your mouth, like, oh,
go to create destruction.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
If there's any fear, it's that if you don't go
full speed you will get hurt. So you, yeah, you
just have to go as freaking fast as you can.
And it was always and it was yeah, it was
actually really fast, and it was always the biggest guy.
I was not big at all, but it was always
against the biggest guy on the opposite team. They'd always
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be cackling before the game looking over at me, and
then by the end.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Of the game about knocking them out or did you
get knocked out?
Speaker 8 (14:54):
We'd like knock each other out. Usually we usually go
down to one you hit each other and you just
stop up and go down to one knee and then
stare at each other and then I usually get at
the end of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Do you guys ask each other while you were on
one knee. If you can cuss each other like or
you can cussed.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
No, I think you just know right you just look
at each other.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
You guy just looked at each other and like, yeah,
I can cuss, dude.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
Yeah exactly. I always got respect from the from the
opposite guy, the biggest guy on the team.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
By the end of the By the way, the NFL
is saving this and using this is there. Why are
we adjusting the kickoff rules? And they're using all of
these answers right now as he knocked himself out once.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Every single we missed what Lee said. He wasn't just
a wedge buster. He was part of the wedge right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Absolutely, So you're the other side, so.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Give me respective on that side, is you're watching this
dude fly dout at you.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Uh yeah, you kind of you You definitely kind of
measure each other up. You kind of get a little nervous,
but again, you kind of just gotta flip that switch
and just know you got to go full speed otherwise
you're gonna get knocked out.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I remember when my brother played at Morpark College. It
was junior college and they were actually a pretty good
team and one of his buddies like his dear friend.
His role was he was the wedge breaker, and we
watched him in a game go down and hit a
group of guys on the kickoff and get absolutely disintegrated.
And he was so buzzed that he came to the
sideline and said, does that count as a pancake? Because
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he got pancaked. He had no idea of really what
had happened. And you just think about all and that's
at the junior college level. I can't even imagine at
the pro level what those collisions look like from the sideline.
I had an NFL game. I can't even imagine just
the car wrecks every single time.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So Gez, I had no idea.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Lee.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I mean, it does explain a lot, But big drops
to you, buddy, Hey, big props to you.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Every single wedgebustering guy knew that was a part of that.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I always had the utmost respectful I remember one of
our backup offensive linemen, Lenny Friedman. He was he was
a backup center, super super smart guy.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I love talking to him.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Just about football, business, everything else, but he also seeing
him get geared up to go out there to be
a part of the wedge like you you knew exactly
what was going through his brain, like this is potentially
detrimental to my long term health. But he was his
toughest nails and he'd go out there and he'd go
out there trying to blow someone up. So it's a
doggy dog world there playing on special teams.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
That's sure.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Was the meat wagon a wedgebreaker.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I don't recall going back. I just I would define
him as a thumper like he was. He was our
hardest hitting linebacker we had, and he had no problem
whatsoever inflicting pain on other people. Like you know, like
some guys like when they are hard hitters, they'll like
help the dude up or something.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
They kind of know.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Jake's the type that would have would have just walked
right over a dude, laid him out and just like
walked or something.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
No, he wouldn't extend anything.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
He was just literally backed the dude out and then
walk right over top of him and like make sure
you let it.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Let him know, Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Man, it is too and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. All right, So coming up next for
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and forth over a story that kind of slid under
the radar in the NFL, and it's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 5 (18:28):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up in twenty minutes from now, it is time for
our Midweek Awards. We're gonna have our good, our bad,
and our ugly for the week, so make sure you
stick around for that again twenty minutes from now from
the tire raq dot Com Studios. So there was a
situation that kind of took place while we were out
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in Arizona for the Super Bowl that there was some
rumblings about, Hey, who's Arizona going to hire as their
new head coach? Like, what's taken so long? We've been
asked Albert Breer. At the time he joined on set,
he was sweating for some reason and Albert Breer joined us,
and he was saying, look, it feels like, you know
one of the you know, like Jonathan Gannon's the guy.
We're hearing rumblings about Jonathan Gannon. And then all of
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a sudden, after the decision and the move was made
and Jonathan Gannon was hired as head coach. Apparently there
was some, you know, some tampering going on by the
Arizona Cardinals after the NFC Championship game. They interviewed Jonathan Gannon,
which they were not allowed to. Some people have speculated
could that have been why there was some failure to
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make adjustments in the Super Bowl, because maybe he was
distracted because he was interviewing for the Cardinals job. And so,
to make nice on the whole situation, there was a
pick swap during the draft, so the two teams swapped
third round picks.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Philly ended up.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Picking at number sixty six and Arizona dropped all the
way down to ninety four. So Howie Roseman, the GM
and the Eagles haven't really spoken to the full extent
of what happened or why there was the agreement to
the pick swap, et cetera, et cetera, and so yesterday
or recently rather, he had an opportunity to sit down
with one Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, and all the
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exchanges was, you know, it was kind of interesting.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
What can you tell me about how the Jonathan Gannon
tampering situation came to be?
Speaker 10 (20:18):
For me personally, obviously extremely appreciative of JG and his
contributions to our football team, you know, helped us win
the NFC. That was handled, as we discussed before, at
the ownership level. And I think the more we look
in the past, the less focus we are on the future.
And so for me, that's over with, you know, wishing
well in Arizona and we're moving on.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Did you guys actually make a complaint or was this
the Cardinals raising their hands saying we realized we screwed up.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Really appreciative of JG's contributions helping us win the NFC,
and that was handled at the ownership level, and I
think we need to move on. You know, the less
we focus on the past, the better we'll.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Be in the future.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
You're doing it mind the same time twice, because I
don't think I did.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Can you No, No, you got it, You got it right.
Your talking points are on points. You not realize that
answers like that make people like me think there's a
hell of a lot more to this than anyone is
ever going to tell us. And it was a much
bigger deal than anyone ever let it on to be.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Don't don't you see that?
Speaker 10 (21:13):
As I was making a list of top five conspiracy
theorists around the National Football League, you would be on.
I don't know that you'd be one. I don't want
to appoint you as one, but you would definitely be
tough five.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
You're deflecting.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You're deflecting.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Should it not be taken as a surprise that the
announcement was made minutes before round one began? Didn't you
even chuckle at that? Good Lord, they're announcing this to
the world literally minutes before the draft start.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
It is possible that's when resolution came.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Right, Well, I guess that's possible.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Is that when it came there.
Speaker 10 (21:44):
Are answers for some of your conspiratorial Is that the
word conspiratorial theories?
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Well, that's good. It's good that I got something out
of you. I thought you were just going to read
the talking points again. We have about thirty seconds. Do
you want to read the talking points one more time.
Speaker 10 (21:57):
I feel like there's sarcasm involved in that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So there was the interesting little back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It was just a lot of sarcastic jousting going on there.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You know, it's a buch of passive aggressiveness. I mean
that was like a fifteen type.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, just digging right in the ribs. Yeah, she has
a lot to do with me, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
She's condescending tone. Why why sound like we're to the clip?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Why the hell did well? I mean, it was my
request to put the clip in. I wanted it to
be played. That was mine, you know, I thought it
was important to the to the development of the show
for me personally.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
But what else we talk about the McDaniel jiu jitsu
on the subject of why, here's the part that isn't
that is weird to me.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Why wouldn't they swap the picks? Why did Arizona get
a later pick in the draft from Philadelphia? Like it
wasn't an even swap, like I had read that there
was the third round swap up and then Philadelphia had
to give like a fifth round pick or something like
that to Arizona, Like, why does that make any sense?
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If there was real tampering here. And if Howie Roseman
was really bothered and the Eagles organization was really bothered
by this, why would there have to be a pick
giving back in return? Why wouldn't it just be a
swap of third round picks?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like that's part that doesn't make maybe to equate to
the value.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
You know, I don't recall which third round pick was swapped,
so that fifth round pick might have equated to the
value to make it make sense for what they're looking
to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, it's a very very weird situation all the way.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
It's the I mean, there's two things that are brought
to light here. One, it's not just us or others
out there that think Mike Florio is a conspiracy theorist
and what to give them a hard time, which it
was just absolutely fantastic see how he Roseman be able
to do that. That's that's that's the start off with
begin with. The second is it just goes to point
out that the NFL in a moment like that where
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you know, they realized there's a flaw within their process
of hiring coaches and clearly they don't have an answer
for it. And I don't know that they care to
because of the way they handled this situation. You know,
you could make the case that tampering was involved with
almost every single coach that it was leaked out he
would become a head coach but was still coaching deep
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into the playoffs or to the Super Bowl. I mean
Kyle Shanahan's calling. I mean everyone knew he was to
be the head coach for the San Francisco forty nine ers. Yeah,
at some point you sit there and go, okay, well,
so what exactly how do you define tampering that aspect?
Clearly he interviewed, Clearly he was going to get the
job at that point, Like where did Arizona cross the
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line and where they considered tampering with Jonathan Gannon if
he was a candidate, if he interviewed, and even though
he was still hired still DC for the Eagles until
after the Super Bowl, Like, at what point where where
did they cross the line. That's what I'm still trying
to figure out as far as what went wrong or
why did the Goes have an issue with what the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Did and if the argument was was the turf on
the field?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That is that is a great point. It could have
been the turf on the field.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Maybe it was the football field that was causing all
of this this all of these problems. And you know what,
from what I hear, thirty two percent more non contact
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why there's been so much drama in the world, because
well they got that retractable uh you know turf that
they pull on and off the field in Arizona, and
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you know.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That was a part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, they just do all.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Different things that you know, you just well you just
want to see them.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I'll put it together and keep it together.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
By the way, do you think the Eagles felt like
he was distracted by interviewing for the job, because I
don't know how you wouldn't be distracted if you were
trying to prepare for a Super Bowl and at the
same time interview for a head coaching job in the
town where the super Bowl's being played. I don't know
how you wouldn't be distracted like that. That to me
seems like it makes sense. And maybe that's where the
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root of the issue is for Philadelphia. So maybe they
felt like he wasn't ready to go when.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
They needed anyvie. Was it fully dialed in?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It's a hard one because if if you look at
it from one perspective, guys are that's that's what you're
working towards. You're trying to climb that corporate ladder, and
the corporate ladder as a coach is to become a
head coach, And if you had that opportunity, it's like,
I'm focused in on what I have to do in
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front of me, but this organization is approaching me to
have an opportunity to do something as to what's connected
to why I do this in the first place. So
it's like it's I feel like that creates a terrible dilemma.
Like you could call it tampering, you could call it
what you want. But if a coach is getting the
opportunity to further himself and climbing this game. I mean,
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you can't be mad at that man for wanting to
further his career. How can you be mad at that?
How can you hate on that?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Now?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I could be frustrated if I'm the owner or if
I'm associated with the Philadelphia Eagles. But at the end
of the day, the Philadelphia Eagles are going to make
the decisions that are best for the Philadelphia Eagles. So
watching and John Gannon do the same exact thing for
his career.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, but if you felt like it, like if somebody
was going to take another job and say they put
in their two weeks and he felt like, yeah, maybe
they didn't give you their.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Best on their way out. I could see what that
would bother some people.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Isn't that expected though?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
I Mean, let's be real, if someone gives you their
two weeks, you can't expect them to be one of
the top performers on their way out.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
That's that's just not human nature.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
That's not how it works for the majority, probably the
vast majority of people out there.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I mean, and usually you can see those signs. It's
like a relationship.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Have you ever heard the phrase that you know, usually
when people break up they've been breaking up for half
the amount of time that they're actually together. Like you
can look back if they were together four years and
two years prior, you can well, and maybe people feel
that way conclusion, but usually two years into it, they
can go back and say, you know what, it was
that fight, it was that moment, it was that situation
(28:37):
that ultimately created a fracture that never healed, and that's
where we got to And so I feel like that's
the case too. When when people kind of put in
their two weeks notice or hey, like this is my
this is it for me, like this is my last year,
it's like, well all right, Like usually they're not, you know,
they see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
They've already got one foot out the door.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
So why you hear players all the time they start saying,
when you start thinking about retiring, you maybe should already
retire because in your mind, you're allowing yourself to go
to a different place than you need to be in
order to be able to succeed and prepare yourself. So
I understand there's obviously the distraction, by I don't know
how you get around it unless you completely pause the
(29:17):
hiring cycle until after the Super Bowl, which puts teams
who are you know, obviously not a winning team at
a disadvantage because now you know, you've you've got to
wait all the way until everyone's done with the Super
Bowl in order to even start interviewing and hiring and
plus it, it just creates more of an issue, I
think in the NFL schedule in general, especially as the
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season gets longer. We're not you know, subtracting games, we're
adding games. So there's probably no way around it. I
just think at the at the end of the day,
the NFL doesn't want to have to try to create
any sort of you know, standard, the standard protocol to
handle this sort of thing when teams have grievances versus
one another. With the exception of the cold too, you know,
(30:00):
just what hadn't dropped their uh you know, their their
their grievance against the Commandos.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
You guys, they should handle it in the old ways.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You guys didn't talk to you guys didn't talk to them.
I never mind, I would like to fall back.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
I believe the exact verbiage of the report was they
didn't talk to Andrew Luck or anyone in his immediate circle,
which went back to our speculation that they probably talked
to someone who knew someone was like, hey, what's answer
luck to it? Do you think you'd be interested in
coming back? And that all of a sudden that got
back that Jim Or saying he thought that.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Was a Tampa. That's probably his agent.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I just think they should They should find out who
the most, They get to choose their champion and the
ownership ownership group and they battle it out after fifty yard.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Line in Oklahoma drill. Yeah. I mean, I think that
that's how you should settle it.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
And whoever wins to Oklahoma Drills, it's whatever it is
that they decided it should be in the situation.
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for
good bad.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, lead to lap. Who's got what this week?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Well, as we do each and every Wednesday, we start
with a little bit of good news, and that's coming
from LeVar this weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Come on, bar Well, I mean this is a great one.
I feel really confident about it. My man Brooks the
LB kept Cup. Yeah, you know, I love watching the
PGA Tour. I love watching golf. All those things I
said earlier it was just a lie. But here's the truth.
Brooks Kepka, Well, he captured his third I believe if
(33:30):
my math serves me correctly, at fifth major title at
at oak Hill by winning you know, yeah it was
this third PGA Championship victory. So yeah, yeah, there it is.
That's my good news is Brooks kept cut like the linebacker, you.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Know, coming through and winning.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah he's back. CAP's back. Yeah you know, I mean
Cap cut. You don't want I don't want that to
become a headline. Now Cap isn't back. But okay, well.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Guys, you can't have good without the bad. Jonas what
was bad this week?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Me?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I did something over the weekend that is still bothering me.
My wife thinks I'm just borderline obsessed at this point.
So I was trying to make pizza at home, and
I thought this would be a great idea that I thought,
all right, well, you know I normally I put the
dough on a little screen that lead to lab got
me because I have this thing where you said it
(34:28):
on the grill and you close the grill lit after
you put the pizza inside this little box and it
cooks a pizza and it's awesome. But I thought it
would be, you know, a good idea, So instead of
putting it on the screen. I got cocky and said,
you know, I'll just throw it straight on the wooden
pizza peel and then I'll put it back in the
fridge and leave it in there long enough that it
won't stick to the bottom of the pizza peal as
(34:49):
I try and load it into the actual pizza cooking
box on the grill. And no, that's not exactly how
that worked. I tried my best to get it off there.
I couldn't do it. I tried everything to slide it
into the and I said, all right, screw it. It
was already late. I just wanted to go to bed.
I didn't even care about eating it at this point.
I just wanted to complete the journey. So I just
(35:09):
put the entire wooden pizza peal inside the pizza up
in box and burned it to shreds, absolutely destroyed. But
I was able to get two slices out of it,
which I was okay with. But I just destroyed the
whole thing. It split apart on the bottom, almost caused
a fire, and ended up having to get a new
one and throw it away. So my bad for the
week was my performance trying to make a pizza at home.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Terrible.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Wow, bummer, man, My pro pain gave out on me
halfway through my steak yesterday.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I was pretty oh no, so what do you do? I?
Speaker 8 (35:41):
Uh, well, I went and got a new pro Paine tank,
and then I kind of got rid of those steaks.
I cooked up some new steaks. I had extra steaks,
so I just cooked up.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Where'd you give the waisted steaks?
Speaker 8 (35:52):
I well, I did finish cooking them and I tested them,
but they didn't They didn't turn out that good.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
So yeah, it was a bummer.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
That's why I did cook up the next stakes. Well, guys,
bringing it on home, Brady. What was ugly this week?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Probably the Lakers just getting getting swept by the Denver Nuggets,
although you know, some folks out there are caught it
the greatest performance by a team that got swept. I
believe Brian Windhorse said that at some point in time,
which is.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Quite an interesting way of putting it.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
I don't know that I've ever heard someone compliment a
team that got swept the way the Lakers did, obviously,
especially considering how well they were playing up until that point.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
So just kind of interesting to hear that point.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Let's hear for you want to hear from your guy,
Brian Windhorse, do we have it? I think he's in
Ohio native.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
If I'm not, he's pretty close to some of the
some of the Lakers.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
The Lakers absolutely were terrific in going down in this series.
I'm not sure I've seen a more impressive performance in
a sweep.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Ever, what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
I mean, honestly, I'm not sure I've seen a more
prefer you know, better performance ever in an ass kicking
that I have from this team. So they're like the
closest worst loser, Like, what does that even mean?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
By the way, the Bears were the best three win
team I've ever seen in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Did you know that? Like, that's that's how this works?
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Now, just find these I'm like, why do you feel
the need to make that sort of statement?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Did?
Speaker 7 (37:26):
It'd be one thing if like, for example, I'll be
going to the Panthers game versus the Hurricanes tonight and
like the first two Kaine, excuse me, first two those
games win int ot right, Like, they've been tight games.
One was a four overtime, the second one was an overtime,
this past one was a tight They've all been really
really tight games like okay, maybe, but are we really
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looking at the Lakers Denver Serius saying like all those
games were tight games, like closely very competitive.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Yeah they lost.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, well he's got to pay the bills.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
I mean, kills, just get deer there for they're the
best worst team to get swept.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So Sully get to find the optimism man.
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some guy busting my balls because I pronounced it Albany
and not Albany. Apologies, apologies to again our fine affiliate
AM nine eight nine eight ninety five.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Sorry, how are you pronouncing it?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I said to Albany and not Albany.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Albany. Yeah, that's so weird. Why would you ever look
at that word and think Albany.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Because there's one L.
Speaker 7 (01:44):
I'm just saying, like, no one pronounces it ever though, Albany,
and there's.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Plenty of examples.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
It's simple, it's that's sensible, though, Jonas, there's one one one.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Ale would say, aw.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Thanks Var, it's like basketball, you don't call it the issue.
Speaker 7 (01:58):
Two Als would be all now, this is This is
because Jonas grew up on the West coast.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And do you know what the state capital New York is?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
What's that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (02:08):
But you know your state capitals when you learned them
when you were in first grade or whatever it is.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
You know it's all be in New York.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Do you know what the state capital of Ohio is?
Speaker 6 (02:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Yeah, here's my ass that's what it's called state capital
of Ohio. All right, sorry for mispronouncing albany as albany
or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Point is we appreciate everybody listening, and mistakes are made
here on Oh.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Would you Jonas?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I mean, you're going to say benny, right, but you
ain't going to say the first part right, you don't
say you don't say a A l as all you don't.
Speaker 7 (02:45):
Okay, Well, we don't need all the different issues with
the pronunciation of the English language, or for example, you
know when you say swan.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
M hmm, you don't say it's plural and singular.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Like my daughter asked me a question the other day
word and I was like, oh gosh, this is going
to be difficult because you know, for a six year old,
it's like it's not going to make any sense to her.
She's like, wait, that words pronounced the same way as
this word, but they mean two different things.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
I'm like yes, and she's like huh. I'm like yeah,
I know. I was like, it's the English language and
none of it really ever makes it like moves, right,
isn't that the same thing with mooves? There you go, Well,
you know the.
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Speaker 6 (03:39):
Hey, you said those words correctly.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah yeah, talking about Okay, all right, so you guys
ready for the NFL to to go ahead and start
making some major changes.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
It red all right, so the lot my hubcap.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
So NFL owners approved the new fair catch rule in
the NFL, in which basically, if you decide to fair
catch it in between anywhere before the twenty four point
nine yard line, you're just going to go ahead and
get the ball at the twenty five yard line. So
they already do this in college football. But the idea,
and this was talked about yesterday, is again they want
(04:21):
to improve player safety and they feel like this move,
which they're calling a quote unquote trial run only for
one year, this move, they feel like, is going to
reduce the number of concussions by fifteen percent because it's
going to entice players to maybe not bring the ball
out if it's kicked short, just take it on the
twenty five and then move on with your lives. And
(04:43):
it just feels like this is another step in the
direction of the walls closing in and them trying to
get rid of one of the most exciting plays in
football that we've seen a lot of exciting players be
a part of and have major impacts on games and
their careers, whether it be Devin Hester or Bryan and Mitchell,
you name it. And yet here we are the NFL
is trying to eliminate it all for the sake of
(05:04):
player safety.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Do we know the percentage on amounts of like in
terms of you said the percentage going down by fifteen percent.
I would be curious as to how many how many
concussions because you know, my major concussions when I got them,
were on special teams. I wonder what the percentage of
(05:26):
special teams concussions are to the entire hole. Okay, it's
probably been receiving receivers getting hit defenseless or considered to
be the defenseless, or targeting or whatever it may be.
And then it would have to be special teams, And
I wonder would actually be the.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
Kickoff is number one. I believe it's the most dangerous plays.
Is one of the reasons why they're trying to make
this change, even though it's it's to the disliking of
most special teams coaches that are in the NFL. One
of the reasons is they the way they go about
kicking them more order kicks, so they'll kick it basically
with a bunch of air, because a lot of these
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kickers are strong enough to be able to kick it
out of the end zone. But now they'll kick it
with enough air to try to get that ball caught
somewhere between you know, the goal line and the five,
and then they can cover down enough so now they're
not getting the ball, you know, out at the twenty five,
they're gonna.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
Get the fifteen to twenty something like that.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
You know, that's kind of become more of the style
that you've seen attempted in college and then probably a
little better executed at times even in the NFL. And
that's the thing is you're probably gonna get more of
that because and LaVar, you know, this like an extra
ten five yards. It may not seem like a lot
to the people on the outside, but that's the difference
between you have to stop.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
An additional first down.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
Like, that's the difference between a team potentially going forward
on fourth down and a defense having to face you know,
four down territory verse three down.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
And being able to get off the field.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
And those numbers add up obviously over the course of
a game and of the course of a season. And
that's why I think there's some people who are like
that this is you know, taking it a step, maybe
a little bit too far, even though it's in the
best interest of player safety.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
So look, they're not gonna get rid of the.
Speaker 7 (07:11):
Kickoff because otherwise, like what the hell you're gonna call
the game or the start of the game. It's it's
kind of been the most like ceremonial thing ever that
just it just it's too it's too much part of
the game, right kick If you didn't have the kickoff,
That's what I'm saying, is like I don't know, I
can't picture in my mind what it would look like
because you have this big, like you know, the crowd
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getting intense, getting excited, the guy's sway, and the kicker
puts his hand up, he gets ready to go, and
it's just there's this whole like moment of time where
you're like that's the beginning of it.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
It's part of the vernacular. Hey what times kickoff? Now,
we're just gonna get that.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
But it's more about even just being there and the
feeling of it, Like it's almost like literally that a
shotgun started at a track race, Like that's the start,
Like you know, that's the moment when you hear the
ball literally being kicked and the entire crowd's like it's
just it's a feel to it. And if you took
that away, I think it killed a live game experience.
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It'd be those awkward thing.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Ever, Yeah, I mean, it would probably feel like a
scrimmage for some reason. Or I mean, would people adapt
and adjust if they did adjust it out of the game.
I'm certain that the fan base would adapt and adjust,
But to a purest I do think that that would
be a difficult It would be difficult adjusting and adapting
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to not having a kickoff. But I don't know, man,
it just seems like that is it definitely is a
dangerous part of the sport. Is definitely a part of
the sport that you could say if if you found
ways to minimize it or even not do it, you're
you're you're basically preserving the health of a lot of guys.
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You know, I don't know, it's just it's such them
guys are moving so fast and they're hitting so hard.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
You know. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
I'll tell you why it's not already out of the game.
Because how many starters do you actually have on special teams?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Not many, you know. Usually your core special teams.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
Guys are the ones that are set up in your
L four L five R four L A R five.
Those are the guys who are set up to make
the tackle, make the play.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
And it's those core.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Special teams guys that are backups on defense and offense
are the ones that are are typically the ones that
are out there playing special.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Teams and getting hurt, you know, if you had.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Like again, we see all sorts of rule changes to
protect quarterbacks because people tend to think, well, hey, these
are the face of the franchise, face of the league.
However you want to do it, so you know, they've
count you know, callous times, I mean changed rules to
help protect the quarterback. This isn't as much of a
sense of urgency because it's not that important of a
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position in the minds.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Of the rules makers.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I mean, at what point do you just accept the
fact that it's a violent game and like there's gonna
be stuff that you there's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
In today's society, that's not it's not that's not that simple.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Can we make football like like kind of separate from
today's say, it's.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
A good point, because why do we view like miss
mixed martial arts. So we're not putting in safeguards necessarily
for that, yet we we do for football, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
So you should then begin to take martial arts classes then,
because then you know, you would know martial arts better.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Great point, that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I just
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
I look at it and to Brady's point, like that's
the signal of the start of a game, like the site,
the excitement, everything that comes along with it, the buzz,
and then it's just and now we're gonna you know,
it's it's like the guy from the office who gets
moved down or what's a office space that movie was
in Milton He gets moved down to the bottom and
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they just keep sort of closing the wall in. Finally
they just get to the point to where it's like, dude,
you no longer have a job here.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
It's over. Like it just feels like that's where the
NFL is trying to get.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
This instead of trying to eliminate the play all together
with you know, an advantage on the fair catch to
go out to twenty five. You know, they've they've changed
the way you know, punts are that play in particular
has been you know played, even kickoff formations. I would
wonder if they would ever look at trying to space
out players more in like a kickoff formation, to help
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reduce the amount of space in between both teams, because
because that's part of it too, is when you've got
a lot of space, guys building up speed and running
towards each other, it's just a big collision. And so
I wonder if there's a more creative way of trying
to you know, allow more kickoffs but not necessarily allowing
to be quite as much space between when they're doing this.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
They did what what what league was that they did
it in? Was that the USFL, or.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Maybe and I'm sure you'll continue to see experiments done
in both the XFL and USFL as almost experimental leagues
or even even in the preseason.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
You know you might see some of that.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
I get to ask you guys this, well, yeah, how
did they identify who was going to be the wedge breaker?
Was it the guy that seemed like he had a
little something wrong with him?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
And they said the breaker my freshman year?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Okay, that makes five the hash the hash guys, the wedgebuster.
It was the guy who had no neck.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
They're like, hey, get that guy. It looks like he's
a walking around like a battery.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
He has no he has no fear. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
So Davis Mills with his Thermos neck would never be
the wedge breaker.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
That was his neck.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
If he wanted to really get a shorter neck, he'd
have to go be the wedge breaker back in the
old days.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
He would lose like eight inches off his neck.
Speaker 7 (12:48):
You'd have a normal neck by by by three seasons
into his career.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Being a wedge breaker.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Would be a trip watching a quarterback run down the hat.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
All of a sudden, you see Davis Mills racing at
the Kentucky Derby. You're just like, Hey, what happen to you?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Pal?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
I played wedge By the way, we do have an update.
We have a wedge breaker on the show. Here, let's
go live to Lee to laugh who claims he was
a wedge breaker.
Speaker 8 (13:08):
Oh, I was a wedge breaker in the middle of
the wedge.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
And and they made me put on a horse collar
because I'd always knocked myself out for hurt my neck.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
This is explaining a lot of things. What high school
is this, Lee?
Speaker 8 (13:21):
Notre Dame high School?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Baby? Yeah, that's right, baby.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:25):
Have you talked about these stories with Todd? Was Todd's like, dude,
no way, I was a wedge breaker?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No way Todd played.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Did Todd say, hey, Lee, you think you could put
those football pants again one more time? Or put that
cowboy collar on again with with no no jersey only
when we're camping.
Speaker 8 (13:43):
Though, Yeah, Todd, I think I played, you know, flag football.
I don't think he ever played real football.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
He seems like he might have been a wedgebuster too.
I mean, I don't know. Lee. How are you feeling now?
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Do you do you still wake up some days and
have like fear of the fear of just break up
the way?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Do you ever wish you could go back and do
it again? Oh?
Speaker 8 (14:02):
Absolutely, no fear.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
No.
Speaker 8 (14:04):
Just like LeVar said, you kind of had to.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Just God, that's amazing.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
How many times do you knock yourself out countless? Like like,
what are we saying here?
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Like five?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Six?
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Oh, I mean once a once, I'll say that.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
Give me your mindset was your running downfield if you
can remember. I know it's been a while, but give
me your mindset where you're just like biting your mouth, like, oh,
go to create destruction.
Speaker 8 (14:27):
If there's any fear, it's that if you don't go
full speed you will get hurt. So you, yeah, you
just have to go as freaking fast as you can.
And it was always and it was yeah, it was
actually really fast, and it was always the biggest guy.
I was not big at all, but it was always
against the biggest guy on the opposite team. They'd always
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be cackling before the game looking over at me, and
then by the end.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Of the game about knocking them out or did you
get knocked out?
Speaker 8 (14:54):
We'd like knock each other out. Usually we usually go
down to one you hit each other and you just
stop up and go down to one knee and then
stare at each other and then I usually get at
the end of the game.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Do you guys ask each other while you were on
one knee. If you can cuss each other like or
you can cussed.
Speaker 8 (15:10):
No, I think you just know right you just look
at each other.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
You guy just looked at each other and like, yeah,
I can cuss, dude.
Speaker 8 (15:15):
Yeah exactly. I always got respect from the from the
opposite guy, the biggest guy on the team.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
By the end of the By the way, the NFL
is saving this and using this is there. Why are
we adjusting the kickoff rules? And they're using all of
these answers right now as he knocked himself out once.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Every single we missed what Lee said. He wasn't just
a wedge buster. He was part of the wedge right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Absolutely, So you're the other side, so.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
Give me respective on that side, is you're watching this
dude fly dout at you.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Uh yeah, you kind of you You definitely kind of
measure each other up. You kind of get a little nervous,
but again, you kind of just gotta flip that switch
and just know you got to go full speed otherwise
you're gonna get knocked out.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I remember when my brother played at Morpark College. It
was junior college and they were actually a pretty good
team and one of his buddies like his dear friend.
His role was he was the wedge breaker, and we
watched him in a game go down and hit a
group of guys on the kickoff and get absolutely disintegrated.
And he was so buzzed that he came to the
sideline and said, does that count as a pancake? Because
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he got pancaked. He had no idea of really what
had happened. And you just think about all and that's
at the junior college level. I can't even imagine at
the pro level what those collisions look like from the sideline.
I had an NFL game. I can't even imagine just
the car wrecks every single time.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So Gez, I had no idea.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Lee.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
I mean, it does explain a lot, But big drops
to you, buddy, Hey, big props to you.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Every single wedgebustering guy knew that was a part of that.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
I always had the utmost respectful I remember one of
our backup offensive linemen, Lenny Friedman. He was he was
a backup center, super super smart guy.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
I love talking to him.
Speaker 7 (17:01):
Just about football, business, everything else, but he also seeing
him get geared up to go out there to be
a part of the wedge like you you knew exactly
what was going through his brain, like this is potentially
detrimental to my long term health. But he was his
toughest nails and he'd go out there and he'd go
out there trying to blow someone up. So it's a
doggy dog world there playing on special teams.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
That's sure.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Was the meat wagon a wedgebreaker.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
I don't recall going back. I just I would define
him as a thumper like he was. He was our
hardest hitting linebacker we had, and he had no problem
whatsoever inflicting pain on other people. Like you know, like
some guys like when they are hard hitters, they'll like
help the dude up or something.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
They kind of know.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Jake's the type that would have would have just walked
right over a dude, laid him out and just like
walked or something.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
No, he wouldn't extend anything.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
He was just literally backed the dude out and then
walk right over top of him and like make sure
you let it.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Let him know, Oh.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Man, it is too and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. All right, So coming up next for
the tire rack dot Com Studios, a fun little back
and forth over a story that kind of slid under
the radar in the NFL, and it's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up in twenty minutes from now, it is time for
our Midweek Awards. We're gonna have our good, our bad,
and our ugly for the week, so make sure you
stick around for that again twenty minutes from now from
the tire raq dot Com Studios. So there was a
situation that kind of took place while we were out
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in Arizona for the Super Bowl that there was some
rumblings about, Hey, who's Arizona going to hire as their
new head coach? Like, what's taken so long? We've been
asked Albert Breer. At the time he joined on set,
he was sweating for some reason and Albert Breer joined us,
and he was saying, look, it feels like, you know
one of the you know, like Jonathan Gannon's the guy.
We're hearing rumblings about Jonathan Gannon. And then all of
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a sudden, after the decision and the move was made
and Jonathan Gannon was hired as head coach. Apparently there
was some, you know, some tampering going on by the
Arizona Cardinals after the NFC Championship game. They interviewed Jonathan Gannon,
which they were not allowed to. Some people have speculated
could that have been why there was some failure to
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make adjustments in the Super Bowl, because maybe he was
distracted because he was interviewing for the Cardinals job. And so,
to make nice on the whole situation, there was a
pick swap during the draft, so the two teams swapped
third round picks.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Philly ended up.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Picking at number sixty six and Arizona dropped all the
way down to ninety four. So Howie Roseman, the GM
and the Eagles haven't really spoken to the full extent
of what happened or why there was the agreement to
the pick swap, et cetera, et cetera, and so yesterday
or recently rather, he had an opportunity to sit down
with one Mike Florio Pro Football Talk, and all the
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exchanges was, you know, it was kind of interesting.
Speaker 9 (20:14):
What can you tell me about how the Jonathan Gannon
tampering situation came to be?
Speaker 10 (20:18):
For me personally, obviously extremely appreciative of JG and his
contributions to our football team, you know, helped us win
the NFC. That was handled, as we discussed before, at
the ownership level. And I think the more we look
in the past, the less focus we are on the future.
And so for me, that's over with, you know, wishing
well in Arizona and we're moving on.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Did you guys actually make a complaint or was this
the Cardinals raising their hands saying we realized we screwed up.
Speaker 10 (20:45):
Really appreciative of JG's contributions helping us win the NFC,
and that was handled at the ownership level, and I
think we need to move on. You know, the less
we focus on the past, the better we'll.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Be in the future.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
You're doing it mind the same time twice, because I
don't think I did.
Speaker 9 (21:00):
Can you No, No, you got it, You got it right.
Your talking points are on points. You not realize that
answers like that make people like me think there's a
hell of a lot more to this than anyone is
ever going to tell us. And it was a much
bigger deal than anyone ever let it on to be.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Don't don't you see that?
Speaker 10 (21:13):
As I was making a list of top five conspiracy
theorists around the National Football League, you would be on.
I don't know that you'd be one. I don't want
to appoint you as one, but you would definitely be
tough five.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
You're deflecting.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
You're deflecting.
Speaker 9 (21:29):
Should it not be taken as a surprise that the
announcement was made minutes before round one began? Didn't you
even chuckle at that? Good Lord, they're announcing this to
the world literally minutes before the draft start.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
It is possible that's when resolution came.
Speaker 9 (21:41):
Right, Well, I guess that's possible.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Is that when it came there.
Speaker 10 (21:44):
Are answers for some of your conspiratorial Is that the
word conspiratorial theories?
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Well, that's good. It's good that I got something out
of you. I thought you were just going to read
the talking points again. We have about thirty seconds. Do
you want to read the talking points one more time.
Speaker 10 (21:57):
I feel like there's sarcasm involved in that.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
So there was the interesting little back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
It was just a lot of sarcastic jousting going on there.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You know, it's a buch of passive aggressiveness. I mean
that was like a fifteen type.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah, just digging right in the ribs. Yeah, she has
a lot to do with me, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (22:19):
She's condescending tone. Why why sound like we're to the clip?
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Why the hell did well? I mean, it was my
request to put the clip in. I wanted it to
be played. That was mine, you know, I thought it
was important to the to the development of the show
for me personally.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
But what else we talk about the McDaniel jiu jitsu
on the subject of why, here's the part that isn't
that is weird to me.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
Why wouldn't they swap the picks? Why did Arizona get
a later pick in the draft from Philadelphia? Like it
wasn't an even swap, like I had read that there
was the third round swap up and then Philadelphia had
to give like a fifth round pick or something like
that to Arizona, Like, why does that make any sense?
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If there was real tampering here. And if Howie Roseman
was really bothered and the Eagles organization was really bothered
by this, why would there have to be a pick
giving back in return? Why wouldn't it just be a
swap of third round picks?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Like that's part that doesn't make maybe to equate to
the value.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
You know, I don't recall which third round pick was swapped,
so that fifth round pick might have equated to the
value to make it make sense for what they're looking
to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, it's a very very weird situation all the way.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
It's the I mean, there's two things that are brought
to light here. One, it's not just us or others
out there that think Mike Florio is a conspiracy theorist
and what to give them a hard time, which it
was just absolutely fantastic see how he Roseman be able
to do that. That's that's that's the start off with
begin with. The second is it just goes to point
out that the NFL in a moment like that where
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you know, they realized there's a flaw within their process
of hiring coaches and clearly they don't have an answer
for it. And I don't know that they care to
because of the way they handled this situation. You know,
you could make the case that tampering was involved with
almost every single coach that it was leaked out he
would become a head coach but was still coaching deep
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into the playoffs or to the Super Bowl. I mean
Kyle Shanahan's calling. I mean everyone knew he was to
be the head coach for the San Francisco forty nine ers. Yeah,
at some point you sit there and go, okay, well,
so what exactly how do you define tampering that aspect?
Clearly he interviewed, Clearly he was going to get the
job at that point, Like where did Arizona cross the
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line and where they considered tampering with Jonathan Gannon if
he was a candidate, if he interviewed, and even though
he was still hired still DC for the Eagles until
after the Super Bowl, Like, at what point where where
did they cross the line. That's what I'm still trying
to figure out as far as what went wrong or
why did the Goes have an issue with what the Cardinals.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Did and if the argument was was the turf on
the field?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
That is that is a great point. It could have
been the turf on the field.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Maybe it was the football field that was causing all
of this this all of these problems. And you know what,
from what I hear, thirty two percent more non contact
knee injuries are problems too. That's why American Grassy Company,
guys Pennington, they're on a mission to ban turf fields
with that hashtag flip the Turf movement. So go to
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Pennington dot com slash flip the Turf now to learn
more and sign the petition for teams to hashtag flip
the turf to real grass. Because you know, that's probably
why there's been so much drama in the world, because
well they got that retractable uh you know turf that
they pull on and off the field in Arizona, and
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you know.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
That was a part of the problem.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
Yeah, they just do all.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Different things that you know, you just well you just
want to see them.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
I'll put it together and keep it together.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
By the way, do you think the Eagles felt like
he was distracted by interviewing for the job, because I
don't know how you wouldn't be distracted if you were
trying to prepare for a Super Bowl and at the
same time interview for a head coaching job in the
town where the super Bowl's being played. I don't know
how you wouldn't be distracted like that. That to me
seems like it makes sense. And maybe that's where the
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root of the issue is for Philadelphia. So maybe they
felt like he wasn't ready to go when.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
They needed anyvie. Was it fully dialed in?
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
It's a hard one because if if you look at
it from one perspective, guys are that's that's what you're
working towards. You're trying to climb that corporate ladder, and
the corporate ladder as a coach is to become a
head coach, And if you had that opportunity, it's like,
I'm focused in on what I have to do in
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front of me, but this organization is approaching me to
have an opportunity to do something as to what's connected
to why I do this in the first place. So
it's like it's I feel like that creates a terrible dilemma.
Like you could call it tampering, you could call it
what you want. But if a coach is getting the
opportunity to further himself and climbing this game. I mean,
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you can't be mad at that man for wanting to
further his career. How can you be mad at that?
How can you hate on that?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Now?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I could be frustrated if I'm the owner or if
I'm associated with the Philadelphia Eagles. But at the end
of the day, the Philadelphia Eagles are going to make
the decisions that are best for the Philadelphia Eagles. So
watching and John Gannon do the same exact thing for
his career.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, but if you felt like it, like if somebody
was going to take another job and say they put
in their two weeks and he felt like, yeah, maybe
they didn't give you their.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Best on their way out. I could see what that
would bother some people.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
Isn't that expected though?
Speaker 7 (27:57):
I Mean, let's be real, if someone gives you their
two weeks, you can't expect them to be one of
the top performers on their way out.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
That's that's just not human nature.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
That's not how it works for the majority, probably the
vast majority of people out there.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I mean, and usually you can see those signs. It's
like a relationship.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Have you ever heard the phrase that you know, usually
when people break up they've been breaking up for half
the amount of time that they're actually together. Like you
can look back if they were together four years and
two years prior, you can well, and maybe people feel
that way conclusion, but usually two years into it, they
can go back and say, you know what, it was
that fight, it was that moment, it was that situation
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that ultimately created a fracture that never healed, and that's
where we got to And so I feel like that's
the case too. When when people kind of put in
their two weeks notice or hey, like this is my
this is it for me, like this is my last year,
it's like, well all right, Like usually they're not, you know,
they see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
They've already got one foot out the door.
Speaker 7 (28:56):
So why you hear players all the time they start saying,
when you start thinking about retiring, you maybe should already
retire because in your mind, you're allowing yourself to go
to a different place than you need to be in
order to be able to succeed and prepare yourself. So
I understand there's obviously the distraction, by I don't know
how you get around it unless you completely pause the
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hiring cycle until after the Super Bowl, which puts teams
who are you know, obviously not a winning team at
a disadvantage because now you know, you've you've got to
wait all the way until everyone's done with the Super
Bowl in order to even start interviewing and hiring and
plus it, it just creates more of an issue, I
think in the NFL schedule in general, especially as the
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season gets longer. We're not you know, subtracting games, we're
adding games. So there's probably no way around it. I
just think at the at the end of the day,
the NFL doesn't want to have to try to create
any sort of you know, standard, the standard protocol to
handle this sort of thing when teams have grievances versus
one another. With the exception of the cold too, you know,
(30:00):
just what hadn't dropped their uh you know, their their
their grievance against the Commandos.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
You guys, they should handle it in the old ways.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You guys didn't talk to you guys didn't talk to them.
I never mind, I would like to fall back.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
I believe the exact verbiage of the report was they
didn't talk to Andrew Luck or anyone in his immediate circle,
which went back to our speculation that they probably talked
to someone who knew someone was like, hey, what's answer
luck to it? Do you think you'd be interested in
coming back? And that all of a sudden that got
back that Jim Or saying he thought that.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
Was a Tampa. That's probably his agent.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
It's so great.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I just think they should They should find out who
the most, They get to choose their champion and the
ownership ownership group and they battle it out after fifty yard.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Line in Oklahoma drill. Yeah. I mean, I think that
that's how you should settle it.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
And whoever wins to Oklahoma Drills, it's whatever it is
that they decided it should be in the situation.
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for
good bad.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, lead to lap. Who's got what this week?
Speaker 8 (33:04):
Well, as we do each and every Wednesday, we start
with a little bit of good news, and that's coming
from LeVar this weekend.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Come on, bar Well, I mean this is a great one.
I feel really confident about it. My man Brooks the
LB kept Cup. Yeah, you know, I love watching the
PGA Tour. I love watching golf. All those things I
said earlier it was just a lie. But here's the truth.
Brooks Kepka, Well, he captured his third I believe if
(33:30):
my math serves me correctly, at fifth major title at
at oak Hill by winning you know, yeah it was
this third PGA Championship victory. So yeah, yeah, there it is.
That's my good news is Brooks kept cut like the linebacker, you.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Know, coming through and winning.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Yeah he's back. CAP's back. Yeah you know, I mean
Cap cut. You don't want I don't want that to
become a headline. Now Cap isn't back. But okay, well.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Guys, you can't have good without the bad. Jonas what
was bad this week?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Me?
Speaker 5 (34:08):
I did something over the weekend that is still bothering me.
My wife thinks I'm just borderline obsessed at this point.
So I was trying to make pizza at home, and
I thought this would be a great idea that I thought,
all right, well, you know I normally I put the
dough on a little screen that lead to lab got
me because I have this thing where you said it
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on the grill and you close the grill lit after
you put the pizza inside this little box and it
cooks a pizza and it's awesome. But I thought it
would be, you know, a good idea, So instead of
putting it on the screen. I got cocky and said,
you know, I'll just throw it straight on the wooden
pizza peel and then I'll put it back in the
fridge and leave it in there long enough that it
won't stick to the bottom of the pizza peal as
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I try and load it into the actual pizza cooking
box on the grill. And no, that's not exactly how
that worked. I tried my best to get it off there.
I couldn't do it. I tried everything to slide it
into the and I said, all right, screw it. It
was already late. I just wanted to go to bed.
I didn't even care about eating it at this point.
I just wanted to complete the journey. So I just
(35:09):
put the entire wooden pizza peal inside the pizza up
in box and burned it to shreds, absolutely destroyed. But
I was able to get two slices out of it,
which I was okay with. But I just destroyed the
whole thing. It split apart on the bottom, almost caused
a fire, and ended up having to get a new
one and throw it away. So my bad for the
week was my performance trying to make a pizza at home.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Terrible.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Wow, bummer, man, My pro pain gave out on me
halfway through my steak yesterday.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
I was pretty oh no, so what do you do? I?
Speaker 8 (35:41):
Uh, well, I went and got a new pro Paine tank,
and then I kind of got rid of those steaks.
I cooked up some new steaks. I had extra steaks,
so I just cooked up.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Where'd you give the waisted steaks?
Speaker 8 (35:52):
I well, I did finish cooking them and I tested them,
but they didn't They didn't turn out that good.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
So yeah, it was a bummer.
Speaker 8 (35:59):
That's why I did cook up the next stakes. Well, guys,
bringing it on home, Brady. What was ugly this week?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Probably the Lakers just getting getting swept by the Denver Nuggets,
although you know, some folks out there are caught it
the greatest performance by a team that got swept. I
believe Brian Windhorse said that at some point in time,
which is.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Quite an interesting way of putting it.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
I don't know that I've ever heard someone compliment a
team that got swept the way the Lakers did, obviously,
especially considering how well they were playing up until that point.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
So just kind of interesting to hear that point.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Let's hear for you want to hear from your guy,
Brian Windhorse, do we have it? I think he's in
Ohio native.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
If I'm not, he's pretty close to some of the
some of the Lakers.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
The Lakers absolutely were terrific in going down in this series.
I'm not sure I've seen a more impressive performance in
a sweep.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Ever, what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (37:00):
I mean, honestly, I'm not sure I've seen a more
prefer you know, better performance ever in an ass kicking
that I have from this team. So they're like the
closest worst loser, Like, what does that even mean?
Speaker 5 (37:13):
By the way, the Bears were the best three win
team I've ever seen in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Did you know that? Like, that's that's how this works?
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Now, just find these I'm like, why do you feel
the need to make that sort of statement?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Did?
Speaker 7 (37:26):
It'd be one thing if like, for example, I'll be
going to the Panthers game versus the Hurricanes tonight and
like the first two Kaine, excuse me, first two those
games win int ot right, Like, they've been tight games.
One was a four overtime, the second one was an overtime,
this past one was a tight They've all been really
really tight games like okay, maybe, but are we really
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looking at the Lakers Denver Serius saying like all those
games were tight games, like closely very competitive.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Yeah they lost.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, well he's got to pay the bills.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
I mean, kills, just get deer there for they're the
best worst team to get swept.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
So Sully get to find the optimism man.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
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