May 30, 2023 • 37 mins
The NBA Finals are set between the Nuggets and Heat with odds heavily favoring Denver. Christian McCaffrey calls out the devaluing of running backs but it’s not a trend that’s going to stop. Plus, a new UFC comedy and much more on “You In or Out?”
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so that's done. Speaking of champions, the Eastern Conference champions
of the Miami Heat. You know, one of the biggest
SOB stories in all of sports, of the Miami Heat.
I'm so sick of hearing about undrafted players, Jimmy Butler,
(01:39):
the will to compete, Eric Spolstra, I'm so tired of it.
First of all, the fact that they were an eight
seed and had to get to a playing game, Like
that's an indictment on how poor their season was. Okay,
So the idea that everyone's like, it's just like this whole.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Battle through injuries and stuff too.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Who doesn't battle for injuries, I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
A lot because they don't even have their star players play.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I mean the Celtics Jason Tatum ripped his ankle up
fourteen seconds into the game. It was never the same,
by the way it is. It is funny though, how
he was able to He was able to play forty
two minutes though, just so light. But he wasn't the
saying they was going right around him.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just salt.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
He was. He was kind of selling it though on
certain points in the game where he would make a
play and then walk back and grimace, and you know
it just it felt like at times it seemed to
hurt him a little bit more than others. You know,
you wanted him. No, I'm just I'm just asking, like
you know, if you salted salts, there's no salt here,
but listen, a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Of salt in that margarita. Ritten.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Now, I'm I'm a Denver Nuggets fan. You know that
You've known me a long time, Brady, you know I
root for the Nuggets. Big Alexanders guy back on the day.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Not true.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I mean, listen, you know I'm all about.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Denver and he just bring back if you're a lie,
bring back Live bet Jesus. I'm not gonna lie about something.
Lie about your bad advice, and bring back Live bet Jesus.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, there's a little bit of a situation with Live
bet Jesus right now. If you want to get into it,
we can get into it. Let's get into effect very
hysturbing because you're not giving all of the details. The
account has been deleted, but how I don't know. There's
only one way it could be deleted. That's your account.
I don't know how it got deleted. Go look up
at Live bet Jesus. It is gone. Man up and
(03:24):
vanish like a fart in the wind. Gone.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, how is it gone? It's your account? You started this.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It's gone. I don't know how it's gone. It's just gone.
It's not there.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And get a new phone. Did you know I mixed
it up with deleting one of your burner accounts.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I've had the same phone for this is what's an eight?
What is the iPhone eight? How many generations?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You try to delete one of your burner accounts?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
There's no burner account. I don't have a burner account.
I'm not Eric Lewis, I'm not an NBA official. The
Live bet Jesus Twitter account is gone, and it doesn't
make any sense at all whatsoever, So I can't. I
don't have any answers. It's very very disturbing and very
share that much to you. I'd like to know what happened.
(04:11):
I'd like to know when that move was made without
without my knowing, you know, I would like to know that, but.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Talked to talk to someone else about that on Twitter
or something.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, I wish I could.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But can we get back to the to the heath though, please,
you can try to talk them down.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
For the past three.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Years or four years, really, if you ncount the bubble
the Bubble Boys, they they've they've kind of battled through
a lot of different scenarios and adversity, and they've been
a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They've been a team.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That what last year lost in the conference finals, they
lost in the NBA Finals during the Bubble Boy era,
and now this year they get back to another NBA finals.
The year they lost in the first round got swept
by the Bucks, the Bucks went on to win it.
I mean, I just I think you're under selling how
good of an organization the Miami Heat are, regardless of
(05:02):
what the regular season looks like. And by the way,
didn't the Lakers the Bubble boy year, didn't they have
to do it through the play in just to be
able to get into the playoffs that year?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think, so, I don't know, there was a lot
going on that I think the Lakers did have to
do it. So I don't know where. I was wondering
where that head came from.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You trying to hammer them for their regular season, and
now they get to where they are, Like, there's a
lot of teams that you know, kind of not as
not have cared as much about the regular season and seeding.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
It seems, by the way, good luck NBA tried to
convince these teams to play all their stars during the
regular season. Now, but they watched the Heat go. All right, well, listen,
you know, if we don't want to play somebody on
a certain night, or we got some issues, don't worry
about it. We could still make a run to the finals.
So but no, I'm teasing when I say that they
were Listen, I picked the Heat in six games in
this series, that's a fact. It went seven and last night,
(05:54):
at no point did I think Boston had a chance
in that game. That game was over pretty quick. And
you made the point earlier, Brady about once Tatum suffered
the injury, they never were able to bounce back. It
just felt like Miami got hot, started hitting threes, Boston
couldn't find their shot, and that was it. It was
over and Miami's on their way to an NBA Finals
and that tips off coming up on Thursday. So we
(06:17):
get Miami and we get Denver. We've also got Jimmy
Butler here, Jimmy Buckets, a guy who was wrongfully given
the Eastern Conference Finals MVP should have been Caleb Martin.
But again that's a whole nother conversation for a whole
nother day. I'm just saying Caleb Martin was the best
player on that team. Most consistent player on that team
was Caleb Martin. Guy could not miss. He was outstanding,
(06:39):
and apparently he was discovered by j Cole, who's a
rapper who also hoops a little bit. But Jimmy Butler
talked afterwards just about this team and how much how
he feels about this team as they head into the
NBA Finals coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Nobody satisfied. We haven't done anything. We don't play just
to win the Eastern Conference. We play to win the
whole thing. We gotta believe that we can do something
incredibly special. So we're gonna hit the ground running when
we get to Denver, and I like our chance. Nobody
ever complains. They always do exactly what you ask of
them to do, which is why you want to play
with guys like that, which is why they're the reason
(07:16):
that we win so many games. I don't call them
role players, I call them teammates because your role can
change any given day.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So that's the the captain of the Miami Heat, Jimmy Butler,
as they get ready for the NBA Finals here, although
this probably does feel like more of an NBA Finals
compared to the one they did in the bubble, right,
you know, like at least you're gonna it's a legit season. Yeah,
and you're gonna get to like travel like, oh, you
finish up an NBA playoff game and you hop on
an elevator next to the tea cups and go upstairs
(07:45):
to your room where you've got to be locked in
for you know, the next twenty four hours. That doesn't
feel like we're championship.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Jimmy Butler was having a good old time with his
coffee and all that stuff and haven't.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You know other stuff. What were you saying? What you mean, Oh,
there's just there's a lot of rumors that were out there,
but yeah, he did have a coffee company started r
just you know, look at that was that was that
was lou That wasn't that wasn't no no, no, no, no, yeah,
just uh yeah, just some of the visitors who would
(08:17):
show up there. But I think I think he was
charging twenty bucks a cup. Yeah, it was. He was
getting paid and it was called was like big Big
Face coffee. Is that the name of his own coffee?
And I heard that he also takes when he travels.
He's got like a six thousand dollars espresso maker that
he travels with him and he takes it with him
wherever he goes because he's a big fan of espresso.
(08:38):
An interesting guy, country music coffee. Let me ask you, guys,
this does does this finals appearance legitimize their bubble appearance
because you could have, for some strange reason, thought that, well,
Miami slipped through the cracks because it was a bubble
it was a bubble playoff and they just caught some
(08:58):
of the better teams slip and got there. Like this
is two appearances for for the Heat and so many years,
four years, Yeah, I mean that's I.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Mean they lost in the conference finals last year. I
think they've been in the playoffs. If you look over
about the past decade, they've only missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
With three times.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, they've been a really, really consistent team. I
just think people stopped watching them once Lebron left, and
they probably have failed to see the fact that, like
they've they've been stable, They've built a.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Foundation and it's a great organization.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I mean, you talked about Caleb Martin, you talked about
some of the other you know, players of role players
that stepped up this Jimmy Butler calls them team players.
It just it seems like that's kind of how they've
built this thing, and it's it's worked. They've been highly competitive.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Who do you think Lebron's rooting for, oh, Denver? Yeah, yeah,
I don't think he wants to see any success come
the way in Miami without him there. I don't think they.
I don't think he's interested in that. I did notice
how LeVar took a shot at Lebron and the Lakers there, though.
How is that You just said the legitimacy of the bubble,
So you're saying that the Lakers half championship isn't legitimized
(10:09):
because they haven't been back. I think it would have
been more legitimized if they were playing for national national
for World Championship. So do you think that they should
now like they should have to give back half of
that half ring and only have a quarter championship ring
now basically make half rings?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Do they do that?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I think well, I think you just do half of
it and then you put like a little elastic on
the bottom and it just attaches underneath. I think that's
the way you would probably want to do that if
you're a Laker fan. But nonetheless, the Miami Heat plus
three ten to win that series courtesy of our friends
at DraftKings plus three ten to win the NBA Finals
right now, with Denver a minus four hundred four to
(10:47):
one favorite to win the NBA Championship, and they've got
home court, so you would think that the Denver would
be the favorite. But it seems a little bit large
now for the Denver Nuggets at four to one based
on everything we've seen with the Miami Heat and eight
and a half point favorites in Game one. I don't
know how you're picking against Miami after what they just did.
But continue to get no respect, and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean Denver's rest that they're playing at home. It's
that altitude. I mean, you'd have to think that, you know,
Denver coulds you know, could take care of business pretty
pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like Jokic. Just what seven to four something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Jokic, No, I think he's like six eleven, six eleven.
I don't. I don't think jok is seven. People. Can
we get an update on Jokic's height? I am seeing
six eleven six eleven.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so I guess he matches up better with Kim.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I thought he was like seven to two or seven
four something like that. I mean, if I mix them
up with the draft pick the web ki.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh yeah, you're talking about Wemby.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
He's a lot taller, right, Oh yeah, you kind of
have similar is it as? What is that? What it is?
I don't know at at the altitude is real? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I really do feel like that's a huge advantage that
it's gonna be hard to for I have.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Me to prepare for. I mean, you know, there's not
really much you can do.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
About it, So you wouldn't you think the bet would
be especially first half Denver? Yes, yeah, that feels like
the one. So for you degenerate gamblers out there that
are looking for some pro tips, here from two Pros
and a Cup of Joe Denver and the first half
in Game one, of this, of this Gase, the points too,
(12:24):
the eight and a half. Now, and let me ask
you this, because obviously you've got the Panthers and the
Golden Knights in the Stanley Cup Final. I mean, is
there going to be a battle to see who gets
the most is it? Is it more love for the
Heat or more love for the Cats right now? In
South Florida. That's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I think it all just depends on more what you're into,
because you know, you're talking about the same season of sport. Like,
I don't know too many Heat fans that are like
Panthers fans and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So I think you'll you'll see. I mean, I think people.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Are excited and they're proud and all that, but I
think there's a pretty clear division between.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
The two Stanley Cup Final kicks or they drop the
puck rather they don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I guess I'd say South Florida would probably more want
to see the Panthers win because it's been what's nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Six, Yeah, since they that's corrected.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Don't know, it's been a lot longer, and you know,
maybe there's a there's a fan base that's kind of
more dying clamoring for that.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But what is the pecket. The Dolphins are still the
team though in South Florida, right, that's still.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
There's still number one, And then it's probably the Heat.
And then it's after that Hurricane the Panthers. Uh maybe
Miami it will I mean Miami Heat hurricanes if they're rolling, yeah,
I mean that might be next to the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't know if it beat out the Heat, but
they'd be up there for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah. So at South Florida is the place to be
if you want to be a successful sports franchise right
now in the NBA and NHL. So congrats to the
Miami Heat. They are on their way to the NBA Finals,
tipping off in Denver at Mile High. Coming up in
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this is a story in the NFL that has been
told several times over the past several years, but somebody
is explaining why there's an issue with an entire group
of players in the league. And we'll get into that
for you right here on FSR.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
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Tirak dot Com Studios. Christian McCaffrey the forty nine ers
running back, a guy who was traded to San Francisco
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last year. It's been a home run acquisition for the
Niners since his arrival. He's also doing well off the field.
Is also has been pointed out several times on this show.
Several times yeah, several times. So we'll get an update
on that here shortly.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Probably put it out again.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, but Christian mccaff we recently talked with Rich Eisen
about the running back position and the devaluing of the
running back position and in the process did a little
comparison between how they're viewed and wide receivers are viewed.
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
You know, I don't know when the value of a
yard got diminished. And when I look at what you know,
receivers make and far receivers make around the league, and
then you look at what running backs make, we're at
the bottom of the list. And you know, you got
backs who had two thousand yard seasons. You've had backs
who've had seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred yards receiving,
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and you know, a lot of people use the injury argument,
but and you know, I don't I don't know if
that's necessarily valid when you look at some of the
receivers who have been hurt who still get big contract
And so I understand we touched the ball the most,
but in my opinion, I think we create a lot
of value in doing so as well. Somewhere along the line,
the franchise tag and what the market did to the
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running back position. I think they're definitely undervalued. And I
think if you ask the running backs around the league,
they would probably say the same thing.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
That was Christian McCaffrey talking with Rich Eyesen and just
a couple of days ago about the situation. I mean,
it's not a horrible argument, but is will it change? No?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But and that has a lot to do with the
way the games changed as far as far as you know,
the the ability to create big plays score points through
the passing game, which is where a lot of you know,
offensive you know minded coaches and offensive minds.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's how they look at it now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean, the rules are set up for this to
be a passing game, and look at past interference. For example,
it's not automatic first down fifteen yards like it is
in college. You get the distance. You can heave a
ball fifty fifty yards downfield. It can be an awful read,
it can be an awful throw, it could be the
wrong route. Yet if that defensive back interferes with the
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wide receiver, you get the fifty yard game. So even
how the rules are set up, it feeds more into
you know, wanting to find. If you've got a superstar,
a quarterback that can sling it around and you're throwing
the football sixty percent of the time, now more often
than not, you're gonna create.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Some big plays. There's some legitimacy to his argument.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I think here's the hard thing about and especially with
where he's at now at San Francisco, there's no doubt
Christian McCaffrey is one of the best players in the league.
That's not even debatable. You know, he's at the top
of the market or close to the top of the
market for running backs as far as what they're being paid,
and he's obviously more than just that.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But once you.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Say that, the San Francisco forty nine ers would be
the perfect case study for did they have an issue
running the football before Christian McCaffrey got there.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And that's more of the issue is if you look
at how running backs are valued, they're not being devalued
because they aren't special or they aren't special players. They're
being devalued because you can take a guy that you
find in the seventh round of the draft, like Isaiah
Pacheco for the Kansas City Chiefs, and he could come
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in and he can help your team win a super Bowl.
You could find guys who are undrafted. You could find
guys who are in the middle draft, in the middle rounds.
They don't have to be a first round, top ten pick.
And so it's not that you know, Saquon Barkley's not special,
or Christian McCaffrey's not special, or Bijon Robinson was a
draft pick this year wasn't special.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's not that it's.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Just every single year we see a guy who is
either drafted in later mid rounds, maybe even undrafted, or
you know, someone else step into a role where they
end up being an impactful.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Running back and you don't have to pay him as much.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So if you have money, right, you got a bank account,
and you're figuring out how to spend your money right,
and you've got to build out a football roster, you're
obviously gonna spend on a quarterback first, but then you're
gonna look at saying, Okay, I gotta protect this guy,
So I'm gonna spend someone on the offensive line, and
I need someone for him.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
To throw to. Some I'm gonna spend on some wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But you know, as far as the running back goes,
you can find guys that are gonna be able to
step up and be able to give you a lot
of good a lot of good production that aren't gonna
cost as much. Like that's more of what's devalued the
running back in my opinion, more so than anything else,
even though there are special guys like Christian McCaffrey in
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the league. It's just that's what they're battling is you've
got a new crop of running backs coming in every
year that are fresh legs that can give you a
thousand year ards, maybe even more than that, and they're
gonna be a lot cheaper than you are.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
To your point, the Niners have had a different leading
rusher every year the past five years. Like the last
time they had a guy who led the team in
rushing consecutive years in a row was Carlos Hyde back
in twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. So that's like a
five year, six year sample size of Hey, whoever, just
give somebody the ball, and I think majority of those
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guys are now with the Dolphins. It seems like it
is a game of trends too, though you know it
is trends. There may be a coach that comes along
that revitalizes and rejuvenates and says, you know what, we're
going back to this style of play. We're going to
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go ground and pound.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
And you know, the trends dictate where kids are training
and where they're playing. Most kids are training and playing
at the receivers or the quarterback's position. Seven on seven
created a culture where things things turned, things turned into
you know, I'm I've seen guys that were close to
(21:14):
three hundred pounds trying to play receiver. Really, oh yeah,
because for a long time, the linemen were getting left out.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
There were there were no drills, there were no.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Competition for a linemen. So the big boys were trying
to do skill positions as well. And and so the
trend turned to throwing the ball so much in this
running gun style of of playing football and score quick
and and and how you you approach it, that that's
(21:51):
become what everybody where the best athletes are going, and
that's where they're training and what they're you know, what
they're peering to do. So the position of running back
has been minimized in more ways than one at different
different levels. But you know, trends, trends would say, like,
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for instance, when when I was coming in, the trend
of the big backer had became a thing. Like backers
weren't big, they were small, they were more compact. They
were quick versus maybe fast. But if you if you
go back, you know, a while back, you know, guys
(22:33):
like Dick Buckets and all those guys they were they
were big backers too, and then it went to smaller backers,
and then it went back to big backers. You know,
there was there was a time where defensive ends were
no different than the defense really in a lot of ways,
no different than a defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
So as as the need is created, the demand changes.
Like you you have, you know, you have just the
there's just the kind of the evolution of how things
are done.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I think the hard part about thinking it's going to
go back is for the exact example that you pointed out,
where everyone, all these kids are being trained in seven
on seven right now, so you're not finding that run
blocking tight end.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You got to teach them. You got to coach them.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You're playing in more three wide receiver sets because those
are the players that are more skillful in that way.
If you're running back, you got to learn how to
catch the footballut of the backfield, like.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Even offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
As you look at the proliferation of the spread offenses
out of high school, they're not running wing tea and
you know, the option, midline option, or the triple option anymore.
It's all spread. Yeah, And I don't think that's like
being rolled back and putting you know, putting that back
in the box.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Like I think this is not in so much a trend.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And you've got examples of teams, right, but think about
the Baltimore Ravens, Like I think we'd largely say they
were a run first team in the past, or at
least they have been with you know, Lamar at quarterback,
and even they're in a transition now.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
AFC North in general were run first teams.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Used to be. I mean that's all changed now though.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah. But if you look at Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They were twenty eighth in passing last year. What they
do this offseason the higher Todd Munkin. Is he known
to run the football.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
No, he's known to spread this thing out and sling
to push the football vertically downfield.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And you look at their acquisitions, you know, signing Odell Beckham,
signing Nelson agil or drafting save Flowers, it's all about
the passing game, and like they've been, probably the case off,
you know, for anyone drafting offensive linemen, you know, being
able to you know, bring in more running backs, have
a running back stable back there, drafting tight ends who
are capable of run blocking and then releasing out off
(24:50):
play action and boots. So I just I don't I mean,
there might be an examples, even if you said the
Seattle Seahawks, who I think two years ago, three years ago,
they might have been the number one team running the football.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Last year they were in the top half, I think
in passing with Gino in his first year starting.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So I just think it's a trend that it's not
so much a trend, it's just the way the league's moving.
And I think it has a lot to do with
what you just mentioned in the grassroots of that's what's
coming up from junior high to high school, high.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
School to college college the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You just you don't see the traditional you know, bigger
bodies and all that. Everyone's getting smaller, faster, more athletic.
Has to be able to play out in space, and
I think that's here to stay.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You might have some teams that like the Falcons who
draft Bejon Robinson and they say, well, we want to,
you know, run the football.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
They ran the football more than anyone last year.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But a lot of that had to do too with
the fact they had a rookie quarterback who didn't play
until the back end of the season.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know, there's a lot of probably factors that played
a part in it. And let's say they do try
to run the football as much and they go seven
to ten. Again, is Arthur Smith back? No?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I Mean that's the hard part too, is when you're
selling the NFL, you're selling the face of your franchise,
which is a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And it's hard if that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Unless he's Lamar Jackson can run like Lamar, it's hard
to be able to sell that. I get as pumped
about it. It's just not as appealing. And I think
if you're a team that's a sub five hundred team,
you've gotta have something to sell, something that's appealing.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And and I don't I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And that's why I always thought Atlanta was going to
be the destination for you know, Deshaun Watson. I really
did I'm still shocked that they're going into season the
way they're going in the season, that they weren't going
to look at take a quarterback where they were. I mean,
it's just it's no disrespect for Desmond Ritter. It's just
you would have thought they would want to have brought in
more competition there, but that wasn't the case. So I mean, again,
(26:40):
we'll see what what it looks like. I just think
this league is now built and it's going to sustain
itself with the way the rules are for this to
be a passing game.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, don't you miss the old days though you've run
it on first down, run it on second down.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
If you're a Notre Dang fan, you definitely miss it. Right,
running backs, you know, but I enjoy running backs. I'm sorry.
Some of my biggest heroes were running backs, damn right,
you know what I mean, like on everything, Like if
you think about like work done was someone I loved.
I loved Florida State running backs. I loved Ample. I
(27:13):
wasn't a Kevin Mack I was. I mean he was big.
I like tailbacks that like did some amazing, like amazing
things out there on the field. You know, It's so
funny because and I guess it does change by generation,
you know what I mean, because now you're you're you
are looking at you know, guys that are doing it
(27:35):
as receivers. But I will still say this, in college,
it is still about running backs. They're still they still
use right like Nick Singleton and k Tron k Tron
Allen at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Dope, probably still but you gotta be able to throw
the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And you got that quarterback now too. We doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
We do have a franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean, he's got a Holtzer.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I mean it might be the first one since Carrie
Collins that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He's like a little big Ben, but he's more refined,
like he's you know, Ben was was kind of racking
out of friendly going to Maa Ohio.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He's he's this kid. I mean, that's what he reminds you.
He's so big.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
He's big, but he's got.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
A strong arm. He's athletic, like he he can do it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Manrew, I'm excited, Drew Aller, I'm I'm super excited. Yeah,
him too.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
I'm excited to see, you know, where where things go
because there's always that constant everybody says it's a copycat league.
Copycat league. People went to the wildcat, everybody goes to
the wildcat. Now it's not wildcat anymore. It's more considered
(28:43):
to be, you know, a r PO formation, which I
didn't even know you could make r PO formation, but
apparently I guess you you can run out of an
r PO set or what you would be able to
speak to it better than I could. I don't know,
but yeah, both of you, because to me, I feel
(29:03):
like RPO is nothing more than a pistol. You're in
a pistol set and you're you now have given your
quarterback the opportunity to read the defensive end. If the
defensive end plays the back, we're going to the past progression,
or you can run it. If the defensive the defensive
end plays you, then you hand it off, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, the symbols way of explaining it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I mean, to me, there's no formation that you would
necessarily say, oh, it's an RPO formation. But I mean, look,
you had a run play called, and you have some
sort of pass option off of that, and then you've
got a player that you're basically not blocking and saying
we're gonna read them, whether it's a d N, whether
it's a second level player, or that's a safety, linebacker,
it could be any of them.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I mean, you could have.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
A to your point, you could have a three technique
you're reading and that's your initial read on the run,
and then have a little small pass option build off
of that once you decide to keep it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And then maybe it's a guy who's on the flat.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Maybe it's a guy who's, you know, sitting outside by
the sideline. Whatever you're outlet is or your relief is.
But that's all part of it. But I don't know,
there's formations so much involved.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And it's actually evolved the way the defense plays as well.
So now you have hybrid linebackers because when you think
about it, your unique coverage. So now linebackers aren't being
deployed to stop the run, they're being deployed to stop
the pass. So you either have a pass rushing linebacker,
(30:29):
which is almost like a hybrid defensive end, or you
have a safety, which is a hybrid safety, but they're
playing linebacker, which makes them a hybrid linebacker because they
could play safety or a linebacker. So it's actually defining
what the defensive personnel looks like as well, you're looking
(30:52):
at more safeties, more Isaiah Simmons built type guys that
are actually you know, being the ones that are are
out there. You guys are killing me right now. Goot,
you got good, good, good in my ear good, But
no say something to burn out. I hit the talk
(31:13):
back by apologies, no worries, little technical difficulties here, that's
no technical difficult I was also talking in my ear
while I'm talking, I was also going to mention that
Drew Aller uh twenty five to one to win the Heisman.
That's not great odds. Well, listen, it's something.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
But because that's not great odds, ude, when Bryce you
wanted that year? What was he twelve to one.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Ten, ten to one? I believe?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, man, it's like it's the Heisman, you don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, Caleb, that's still your favorite.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Caleb Williams probably one and twice in a row.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, he's think dude.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
First off, the PAC twelve, it's just it's weak, so
he should be able to put up a lot of
stats versus all that packed the packed twelve opponents.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And then I think it just comes down. I mean,
and here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
With the award too, is like it's it's before all
the postseason stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And I'm not saying that they need to lead.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Their team to the playoffs, and you know, they need
to win a national championship, but like, unless there's someone
else that can even come close, that's on one of
the national championship teams, I mean, look at it this way.
You've got a new quarterback starting for Alabama this year,
which we'll see because obviously Tyler Buckterer from Notre Dame
went down there, and he went down for a reason,
so they're gonna battle that out in training camp. Georgia's
(32:29):
starting a new quarterback as well, sets Bennett no longer there.
You start looking at some of the top teams, Ohio CJ.
Strode left Ohio State, they're gonna have a new one.
I mean, Michigan's there with JJ McCarthy. But you start
looking at them, even TCU. You know, it's just there's
a lot of there's a lot of newness, So you know,
I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, I say, we're doing
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You guys interer out on that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
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Speaker 4 (35:25):
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Speaker 4 (35:33):
It's like a comedy, like a fake show. Correct, man,
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I've heard about it I've never been ray it's a
weird place.
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Speaker 4 (36:14):
I'm on magic freaking like. I love how people can
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get you to buy into the illusion. Didn't the Eagles
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a really good magician? Like I would.
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so that's done. Speaking of champions, the Eastern Conference champions
of the Miami Heat. You know, one of the biggest
SOB stories in all of sports, of the Miami Heat.
I'm so sick of hearing about undrafted players, Jimmy Butler,
(01:39):
the will to compete, Eric Spolstra, I'm so tired of it.
First of all, the fact that they were an eight
seed and had to get to a playing game, Like
that's an indictment on how poor their season was. Okay,
So the idea that everyone's like, it's just like this whole.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Battle through injuries and stuff too.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Who doesn't battle for injuries, I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
A lot because they don't even have their star players play.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I mean the Celtics Jason Tatum ripped his ankle up
fourteen seconds into the game. It was never the same,
by the way it is. It is funny though, how
he was able to He was able to play forty
two minutes though, just so light. But he wasn't the
saying they was going right around him.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Just salt.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
He was. He was kind of selling it though on
certain points in the game where he would make a
play and then walk back and grimace, and you know
it just it felt like at times it seemed to
hurt him a little bit more than others. You know,
you wanted him. No, I'm just I'm just asking, like
you know, if you salted salts, there's no salt here,
but listen, a lot.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Of salt in that margarita. Ritten.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Now, I'm I'm a Denver Nuggets fan. You know that
You've known me a long time, Brady, you know I
root for the Nuggets. Big Alexanders guy back on the day.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Not true.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I mean, listen, you know I'm all about.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Denver and he just bring back if you're a lie,
bring back Live bet Jesus. I'm not gonna lie about something.
Lie about your bad advice, and bring back Live bet Jesus.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, there's a little bit of a situation with Live
bet Jesus right now. If you want to get into it,
we can get into it. Let's get into effect very
hysturbing because you're not giving all of the details. The
account has been deleted, but how I don't know. There's
only one way it could be deleted. That's your account.
I don't know how it got deleted. Go look up
at Live bet Jesus. It is gone. Man up and
(03:24):
vanish like a fart in the wind. Gone.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Okay, how is it gone? It's your account? You started this.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
It's gone. I don't know how it's gone. It's just gone.
It's not there.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
And get a new phone. Did you know I mixed
it up with deleting one of your burner accounts.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
I've had the same phone for this is what's an eight?
What is the iPhone eight? How many generations?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You try to delete one of your burner accounts?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
There's no burner account. I don't have a burner account.
I'm not Eric Lewis, I'm not an NBA official. The
Live bet Jesus Twitter account is gone, and it doesn't
make any sense at all whatsoever, So I can't. I
don't have any answers. It's very very disturbing and very
share that much to you. I'd like to know what happened.
(04:11):
I'd like to know when that move was made without
without my knowing, you know, I would like to know that, but.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Talked to talk to someone else about that on Twitter
or something.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, I wish I could.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
But can we get back to the to the heath though, please,
you can try to talk them down.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
For the past three.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Years or four years, really, if you ncount the bubble
the Bubble Boys, they they've they've kind of battled through
a lot of different scenarios and adversity, and they've been
a playoff team.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
They've been a team.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That what last year lost in the conference finals, they
lost in the NBA Finals during the Bubble Boy era,
and now this year they get back to another NBA finals.
The year they lost in the first round got swept
by the Bucks, the Bucks went on to win it.
I mean, I just I think you're under selling how
good of an organization the Miami Heat are, regardless of
(05:02):
what the regular season looks like. And by the way,
didn't the Lakers the Bubble boy year, didn't they have
to do it through the play in just to be
able to get into the playoffs that year?
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I think, so, I don't know, there was a lot
going on that I think the Lakers did have to
do it. So I don't know where. I was wondering
where that head came from.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You trying to hammer them for their regular season, and
now they get to where they are, Like, there's a
lot of teams that you know, kind of not as
not have cared as much about the regular season and seeding.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
It seems, by the way, good luck NBA tried to
convince these teams to play all their stars during the
regular season. Now, but they watched the Heat go. All right, well, listen,
you know, if we don't want to play somebody on
a certain night, or we got some issues, don't worry
about it. We could still make a run to the finals.
So but no, I'm teasing when I say that they
were Listen, I picked the Heat in six games in
this series, that's a fact. It went seven and last night,
(05:54):
at no point did I think Boston had a chance
in that game. That game was over pretty quick. And
you made the point earlier, Brady about once Tatum suffered
the injury, they never were able to bounce back. It
just felt like Miami got hot, started hitting threes, Boston
couldn't find their shot, and that was it. It was
over and Miami's on their way to an NBA Finals
and that tips off coming up on Thursday. So we
(06:17):
get Miami and we get Denver. We've also got Jimmy
Butler here, Jimmy Buckets, a guy who was wrongfully given
the Eastern Conference Finals MVP should have been Caleb Martin.
But again that's a whole nother conversation for a whole
nother day. I'm just saying Caleb Martin was the best
player on that team. Most consistent player on that team
was Caleb Martin. Guy could not miss. He was outstanding,
(06:39):
and apparently he was discovered by j Cole, who's a
rapper who also hoops a little bit. But Jimmy Butler
talked afterwards just about this team and how much how
he feels about this team as they head into the
NBA Finals coming up on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Nobody satisfied. We haven't done anything. We don't play just
to win the Eastern Conference. We play to win the
whole thing. We gotta believe that we can do something
incredibly special. So we're gonna hit the ground running when
we get to Denver, and I like our chance. Nobody
ever complains. They always do exactly what you ask of
them to do, which is why you want to play
with guys like that, which is why they're the reason
(07:16):
that we win so many games. I don't call them
role players, I call them teammates because your role can
change any given day.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So that's the the captain of the Miami Heat, Jimmy Butler,
as they get ready for the NBA Finals here, although
this probably does feel like more of an NBA Finals
compared to the one they did in the bubble, right,
you know, like at least you're gonna it's a legit season. Yeah,
and you're gonna get to like travel like, oh, you
finish up an NBA playoff game and you hop on
an elevator next to the tea cups and go upstairs
(07:45):
to your room where you've got to be locked in
for you know, the next twenty four hours. That doesn't
feel like we're championship.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
Jimmy Butler was having a good old time with his
coffee and all that stuff and haven't.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You know other stuff. What were you saying? What you mean, Oh,
there's just there's a lot of rumors that were out there,
but yeah, he did have a coffee company started r
just you know, look at that was that was that
was lou That wasn't that wasn't no no, no, no, no, yeah,
just uh yeah, just some of the visitors who would
(08:17):
show up there. But I think I think he was
charging twenty bucks a cup. Yeah, it was. He was
getting paid and it was called was like big Big
Face coffee. Is that the name of his own coffee?
And I heard that he also takes when he travels.
He's got like a six thousand dollars espresso maker that
he travels with him and he takes it with him
wherever he goes because he's a big fan of espresso.
(08:38):
An interesting guy, country music coffee. Let me ask you, guys,
this does does this finals appearance legitimize their bubble appearance
because you could have, for some strange reason, thought that, well,
Miami slipped through the cracks because it was a bubble
it was a bubble playoff and they just caught some
(08:58):
of the better teams slip and got there. Like this
is two appearances for for the Heat and so many years,
four years, Yeah, I mean that's I.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Mean they lost in the conference finals last year. I
think they've been in the playoffs. If you look over
about the past decade, they've only missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
With three times.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
I mean, they've been a really, really consistent team. I
just think people stopped watching them once Lebron left, and
they probably have failed to see the fact that, like
they've they've been stable, They've built a.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Foundation and it's a great organization.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I mean, you talked about Caleb Martin, you talked about
some of the other you know, players of role players
that stepped up this Jimmy Butler calls them team players.
It just it seems like that's kind of how they've
built this thing, and it's it's worked. They've been highly competitive.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Who do you think Lebron's rooting for, oh, Denver? Yeah, yeah,
I don't think he wants to see any success come
the way in Miami without him there. I don't think they.
I don't think he's interested in that. I did notice
how LeVar took a shot at Lebron and the Lakers there, though.
How is that You just said the legitimacy of the bubble,
So you're saying that the Lakers half championship isn't legitimized
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because they haven't been back. I think it would have
been more legitimized if they were playing for national national
for World Championship. So do you think that they should
now like they should have to give back half of
that half ring and only have a quarter championship ring
now basically make half rings?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Do they do that?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I think well, I think you just do half of
it and then you put like a little elastic on
the bottom and it just attaches underneath. I think that's
the way you would probably want to do that if
you're a Laker fan. But nonetheless, the Miami Heat plus
three ten to win that series courtesy of our friends
at DraftKings plus three ten to win the NBA Finals
right now, with Denver a minus four hundred four to
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one favorite to win the NBA Championship, and they've got
home court, so you would think that the Denver would
be the favorite. But it seems a little bit large
now for the Denver Nuggets at four to one based
on everything we've seen with the Miami Heat and eight
and a half point favorites in Game one. I don't
know how you're picking against Miami after what they just did.
But continue to get no respect, and.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I mean Denver's rest that they're playing at home. It's
that altitude. I mean, you'd have to think that, you know,
Denver coulds you know, could take care of business pretty
pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Like Jokic. Just what seven to four something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Jokic, No, I think he's like six eleven, six eleven.
I don't. I don't think jok is seven. People. Can
we get an update on Jokic's height? I am seeing
six eleven six eleven.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, so I guess he matches up better with Kim.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I thought he was like seven to two or seven
four something like that. I mean, if I mix them
up with the draft pick the web ki.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Oh yeah, you're talking about Wemby.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
He's a lot taller, right, Oh yeah, you kind of
have similar is it as? What is that? What it is?
I don't know at at the altitude is real? Man?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I really do feel like that's a huge advantage that
it's gonna be hard to for I have.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Me to prepare for. I mean, you know, there's not
really much you can do.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
About it, So you wouldn't you think the bet would
be especially first half Denver? Yes, yeah, that feels like
the one. So for you degenerate gamblers out there that
are looking for some pro tips, here from two Pros
and a Cup of Joe Denver and the first half
in Game one, of this, of this Gase, the points too,
(12:24):
the eight and a half. Now, and let me ask
you this, because obviously you've got the Panthers and the
Golden Knights in the Stanley Cup Final. I mean, is
there going to be a battle to see who gets
the most is it? Is it more love for the
Heat or more love for the Cats right now? In
South Florida. That's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
That's a tough one.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I think it all just depends on more what you're into,
because you know, you're talking about the same season of sport. Like,
I don't know too many Heat fans that are like
Panthers fans and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
So I think you'll you'll see. I mean, I think people.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Are excited and they're proud and all that, but I
think there's a pretty clear division between.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
The two Stanley Cup Final kicks or they drop the
puck rather they don't care.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I guess I'd say South Florida would probably more want
to see the Panthers win because it's been what's nineteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Six, Yeah, since they that's corrected.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, So I.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Don't know, it's been a lot longer, and you know,
maybe there's a there's a fan base that's kind of
more dying clamoring for that.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But what is the pecket. The Dolphins are still the
team though in South Florida, right, that's still.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
There's still number one, And then it's probably the Heat.
And then it's after that Hurricane the Panthers. Uh maybe
Miami it will I mean Miami Heat hurricanes if they're rolling, yeah,
I mean that might be next to the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I don't know if it beat out the Heat, but
they'd be up there for sure.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah. So at South Florida is the place to be
if you want to be a successful sports franchise right
now in the NBA and NHL. So congrats to the
Miami Heat. They are on their way to the NBA Finals,
tipping off in Denver at Mile High. Coming up in
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is explaining why there's an issue with an entire group
of players in the league. And we'll get into that
for you right here on FSR.
Speaker 7 (14:20):
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Tirak dot Com Studios. Christian McCaffrey the forty nine ers
running back, a guy who was traded to San Francisco
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last year. It's been a home run acquisition for the
Niners since his arrival. He's also doing well off the field.
Is also has been pointed out several times on this show.
Several times yeah, several times. So we'll get an update
on that here shortly.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Probably put it out again.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
Yeah, but Christian mccaff we recently talked with Rich Eisen
about the running back position and the devaluing of the
running back position and in the process did a little
comparison between how they're viewed and wide receivers are viewed.
Take a listen.
Speaker 8 (15:28):
You know, I don't know when the value of a
yard got diminished. And when I look at what you know,
receivers make and far receivers make around the league, and
then you look at what running backs make, we're at
the bottom of the list. And you know, you got
backs who had two thousand yard seasons. You've had backs
who've had seven hundred and fifty to eight hundred yards receiving,
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and you know, a lot of people use the injury argument,
but and you know, I don't I don't know if
that's necessarily valid when you look at some of the
receivers who have been hurt who still get big contract
And so I understand we touched the ball the most,
but in my opinion, I think we create a lot
of value in doing so as well. Somewhere along the line,
the franchise tag and what the market did to the
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running back position. I think they're definitely undervalued. And I
think if you ask the running backs around the league,
they would probably say the same thing.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
That was Christian McCaffrey talking with Rich Eyesen and just
a couple of days ago about the situation. I mean,
it's not a horrible argument, but is will it change? No?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But and that has a lot to do with the
way the games changed as far as far as you know,
the the ability to create big plays score points through
the passing game, which is where a lot of you know,
offensive you know minded coaches and offensive minds.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
It's how they look at it now.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I mean, the rules are set up for this to
be a passing game, and look at past interference. For example,
it's not automatic first down fifteen yards like it is
in college. You get the distance. You can heave a
ball fifty fifty yards downfield. It can be an awful read,
it can be an awful throw, it could be the
wrong route. Yet if that defensive back interferes with the
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wide receiver, you get the fifty yard game. So even
how the rules are set up, it feeds more into
you know, wanting to find. If you've got a superstar,
a quarterback that can sling it around and you're throwing
the football sixty percent of the time, now more often
than not, you're gonna create.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Some big plays. There's some legitimacy to his argument.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I think here's the hard thing about and especially with
where he's at now at San Francisco, there's no doubt
Christian McCaffrey is one of the best players in the league.
That's not even debatable. You know, he's at the top
of the market or close to the top of the
market for running backs as far as what they're being paid,
and he's obviously more than just that.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But once you.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Say that, the San Francisco forty nine ers would be
the perfect case study for did they have an issue
running the football before Christian McCaffrey got there.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
And that's more of the issue is if you look
at how running backs are valued, they're not being devalued
because they aren't special or they aren't special players. They're
being devalued because you can take a guy that you
find in the seventh round of the draft, like Isaiah
Pacheco for the Kansas City Chiefs, and he could come
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in and he can help your team win a super Bowl.
You could find guys who are undrafted. You could find
guys who are in the middle draft, in the middle rounds.
They don't have to be a first round, top ten pick.
And so it's not that you know, Saquon Barkley's not special,
or Christian McCaffrey's not special, or Bijon Robinson was a
draft pick this year wasn't special.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's not that it's.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Just every single year we see a guy who is
either drafted in later mid rounds, maybe even undrafted, or
you know, someone else step into a role where they
end up being an impactful.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Running back and you don't have to pay him as much.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So if you have money, right, you got a bank account,
and you're figuring out how to spend your money right,
and you've got to build out a football roster, you're
obviously gonna spend on a quarterback first, but then you're
gonna look at saying, Okay, I gotta protect this guy,
So I'm gonna spend someone on the offensive line, and
I need someone for him.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
To throw to. Some I'm gonna spend on some wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
But you know, as far as the running back goes,
you can find guys that are gonna be able to
step up and be able to give you a lot
of good a lot of good production that aren't gonna
cost as much. Like that's more of what's devalued the
running back in my opinion, more so than anything else,
even though there are special guys like Christian McCaffrey in
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the league. It's just that's what they're battling is you've
got a new crop of running backs coming in every
year that are fresh legs that can give you a
thousand year ards, maybe even more than that, and they're
gonna be a lot cheaper than you are.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
To your point, the Niners have had a different leading
rusher every year the past five years. Like the last
time they had a guy who led the team in
rushing consecutive years in a row was Carlos Hyde back
in twenty fifteen to twenty seventeen. So that's like a
five year, six year sample size of Hey, whoever, just
give somebody the ball, and I think majority of those
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guys are now with the Dolphins. It seems like it
is a game of trends too, though you know it
is trends. There may be a coach that comes along
that revitalizes and rejuvenates and says, you know what, we're
going back to this style of play. We're going to
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go ground and pound.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
And you know, the trends dictate where kids are training
and where they're playing. Most kids are training and playing
at the receivers or the quarterback's position. Seven on seven
created a culture where things things turned, things turned into
you know, I'm I've seen guys that were close to
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three hundred pounds trying to play receiver. Really, oh yeah,
because for a long time, the linemen were getting left out.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
There were there were no drills, there were no.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Competition for a linemen. So the big boys were trying
to do skill positions as well. And and so the
trend turned to throwing the ball so much in this
running gun style of of playing football and score quick
and and and how you you approach it, that that's
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become what everybody where the best athletes are going, and
that's where they're training and what they're you know, what
they're peering to do. So the position of running back
has been minimized in more ways than one at different
different levels. But you know, trends, trends would say, like,
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for instance, when when I was coming in, the trend
of the big backer had became a thing. Like backers
weren't big, they were small, they were more compact. They
were quick versus maybe fast. But if you if you
go back, you know, a while back, you know, guys
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like Dick Buckets and all those guys they were they
were big backers too, and then it went to smaller backers,
and then it went back to big backers. You know,
there was there was a time where defensive ends were
no different than the defense really in a lot of ways,
no different than a defensive tackle.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
So as as the need is created, the demand changes.
Like you you have, you know, you have just the
there's just the kind of the evolution of how things
are done.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
I think the hard part about thinking it's going to
go back is for the exact example that you pointed out,
where everyone, all these kids are being trained in seven
on seven right now, so you're not finding that run
blocking tight end.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
You got to teach them. You got to coach them.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You're playing in more three wide receiver sets because those
are the players that are more skillful in that way.
If you're running back, you got to learn how to
catch the footballut of the backfield, like.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Even offensive lineman.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
As you look at the proliferation of the spread offenses
out of high school, they're not running wing tea and
you know, the option, midline option, or the triple option anymore.
It's all spread. Yeah, And I don't think that's like
being rolled back and putting you know, putting that back
in the box.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Like I think this is not in so much a trend.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And you've got examples of teams, right, but think about
the Baltimore Ravens, Like I think we'd largely say they
were a run first team in the past, or at
least they have been with you know, Lamar at quarterback,
and even they're in a transition now.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
AFC North in general were run first teams.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Used to be. I mean that's all changed now though.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yeah. But if you look at Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
They were twenty eighth in passing last year. What they
do this offseason the higher Todd Munkin. Is he known
to run the football.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
No, he's known to spread this thing out and sling
to push the football vertically downfield.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And you look at their acquisitions, you know, signing Odell Beckham,
signing Nelson agil or drafting save Flowers, it's all about
the passing game, and like they've been, probably the case off,
you know, for anyone drafting offensive linemen, you know, being
able to you know, bring in more running backs, have
a running back stable back there, drafting tight ends who
are capable of run blocking and then releasing out off
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play action and boots. So I just I don't I mean,
there might be an examples, even if you said the
Seattle Seahawks, who I think two years ago, three years ago,
they might have been the number one team running the football.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Last year they were in the top half, I think
in passing with Gino in his first year starting.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
So I just think it's a trend that it's not
so much a trend, it's just the way the league's moving.
And I think it has a lot to do with
what you just mentioned in the grassroots of that's what's
coming up from junior high to high school, high.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
School to college college the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You just you don't see the traditional you know, bigger
bodies and all that. Everyone's getting smaller, faster, more athletic.
Has to be able to play out in space, and
I think that's here to stay.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You might have some teams that like the Falcons who
draft Bejon Robinson and they say, well, we want to,
you know, run the football.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
They ran the football more than anyone last year.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
But a lot of that had to do too with
the fact they had a rookie quarterback who didn't play
until the back end of the season.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You know, there's a lot of probably factors that played
a part in it. And let's say they do try
to run the football as much and they go seven
to ten. Again, is Arthur Smith back? No?
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I Mean that's the hard part too, is when you're
selling the NFL, you're selling the face of your franchise,
which is a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
And it's hard if that guy.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Unless he's Lamar Jackson can run like Lamar, it's hard
to be able to sell that. I get as pumped
about it. It's just not as appealing. And I think
if you're a team that's a sub five hundred team,
you've gotta have something to sell, something that's appealing.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
And and I don't I don't really know.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And that's why I always thought Atlanta was going to
be the destination for you know, Deshaun Watson. I really
did I'm still shocked that they're going into season the
way they're going in the season, that they weren't going
to look at take a quarterback where they were. I mean,
it's just it's no disrespect for Desmond Ritter. It's just
you would have thought they would want to have brought in
more competition there, but that wasn't the case. So I mean, again,
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we'll see what what it looks like. I just think
this league is now built and it's going to sustain
itself with the way the rules are for this to
be a passing game.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
Yeah, don't you miss the old days though you've run
it on first down, run it on second down.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
If you're a Notre Dang fan, you definitely miss it. Right,
running backs, you know, but I enjoy running backs. I'm sorry.
Some of my biggest heroes were running backs, damn right,
you know what I mean, like on everything, Like if
you think about like work done was someone I loved.
I loved Florida State running backs. I loved Ample. I
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wasn't a Kevin Mack I was. I mean he was big.
I like tailbacks that like did some amazing, like amazing
things out there on the field. You know, It's so
funny because and I guess it does change by generation,
you know what I mean, because now you're you're you
are looking at you know, guys that are doing it
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as receivers. But I will still say this, in college,
it is still about running backs. They're still they still
use right like Nick Singleton and k Tron k Tron
Allen at Penn State.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Dope, probably still but you gotta be able to throw
the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
And you got that quarterback now too. We doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
We do have a franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean, he's got a Holtzer.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
I mean it might be the first one since Carrie
Collins that.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
He's like a little big Ben, but he's more refined,
like he's you know, Ben was was kind of racking
out of friendly going to Maa Ohio.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He's he's this kid. I mean, that's what he reminds you.
He's so big.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
He's big, but he's got.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
A strong arm. He's athletic, like he he can do it.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Manrew, I'm excited, Drew Aller, I'm I'm super excited. Yeah,
him too.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
I'm excited to see, you know, where where things go
because there's always that constant everybody says it's a copycat league.
Copycat league. People went to the wildcat, everybody goes to
the wildcat. Now it's not wildcat anymore. It's more considered
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to be, you know, a r PO formation, which I
didn't even know you could make r PO formation, but
apparently I guess you you can run out of an
r PO set or what you would be able to
speak to it better than I could. I don't know,
but yeah, both of you, because to me, I feel
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like RPO is nothing more than a pistol. You're in
a pistol set and you're you now have given your
quarterback the opportunity to read the defensive end. If the
defensive end plays the back, we're going to the past progression,
or you can run it. If the defensive the defensive
end plays you, then you hand it off, you know, And.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, the symbols way of explaining it.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I mean, to me, there's no formation that you would
necessarily say, oh, it's an RPO formation. But I mean, look,
you had a run play called, and you have some
sort of pass option off of that, and then you've
got a player that you're basically not blocking and saying
we're gonna read them, whether it's a d N, whether
it's a second level player, or that's a safety, linebacker,
it could be any of them.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I mean, you could have.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
A to your point, you could have a three technique
you're reading and that's your initial read on the run,
and then have a little small pass option build off
of that once you decide to keep it.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
And then maybe it's a guy who's on the flat.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Maybe it's a guy who's, you know, sitting outside by
the sideline. Whatever you're outlet is or your relief is.
But that's all part of it. But I don't know,
there's formations so much involved.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
And it's actually evolved the way the defense plays as well.
So now you have hybrid linebackers because when you think
about it, your unique coverage. So now linebackers aren't being
deployed to stop the run, they're being deployed to stop
the pass. So you either have a pass rushing linebacker,
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which is almost like a hybrid defensive end, or you
have a safety, which is a hybrid safety, but they're
playing linebacker, which makes them a hybrid linebacker because they
could play safety or a linebacker. So it's actually defining
what the defensive personnel looks like as well, you're looking
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at more safeties, more Isaiah Simmons built type guys that
are actually you know, being the ones that are are
out there. You guys are killing me right now. Goot,
you got good, good, good in my ear good, But
no say something to burn out. I hit the talk
(31:13):
back by apologies, no worries, little technical difficulties here, that's
no technical difficult I was also talking in my ear
while I'm talking, I was also going to mention that
Drew Aller uh twenty five to one to win the Heisman.
That's not great odds. Well, listen, it's something.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
But because that's not great odds, ude, when Bryce you
wanted that year? What was he twelve to one.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Ten, ten to one? I believe?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, man, it's like it's the Heisman, you don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, Caleb, that's still your favorite.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Caleb Williams probably one and twice in a row.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, he's think dude.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
First off, the PAC twelve, it's just it's weak, so
he should be able to put up a lot of
stats versus all that packed the packed twelve opponents.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
And then I think it just comes down. I mean,
and here's the problem.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
With the award too, is like it's it's before all
the postseason stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
And I'm not saying that they need to lead.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Their team to the playoffs, and you know, they need
to win a national championship, but like, unless there's someone
else that can even come close, that's on one of
the national championship teams, I mean, look at it this way.
You've got a new quarterback starting for Alabama this year,
which we'll see because obviously Tyler Buckterer from Notre Dame
went down there, and he went down for a reason,
so they're gonna battle that out in training camp. Georgia's
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starting a new quarterback as well, sets Bennett no longer there.
You start looking at some of the top teams, Ohio CJ.
Strode left Ohio State, they're gonna have a new one.
I mean, Michigan's there with JJ McCarthy. But you start
looking at them, even TCU. You know, it's just there's
a lot of there's a lot of newness, So you know,
I don't know, we'll see. Yeah, I say, we're doing
(32:50):
now now we're talking to everyone's there when they're talking.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
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Adam Sandler in talks with Dana White for a UFC
show based on a comedy on what it is to
be in the front office of UFC.
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You guys interer out on that.
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And love Adam Sandler. I think it'd be a really
really interesting watch.
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I'm out. Okay, Then there's enough reality shows around the uf.
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Since this isn't a reality TV show, so.
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It's like a comedy, like a fake show. Correct, man,
definitely out now I'm in.
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I mean the entire sport is fake. Yeah, you're out
on that.
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Oh, kit Cheeze, just saying it doesn't really make much sense. Gosh,
how could you?
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All right?
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What else do we go to? Guys?
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La legend Milt Larson dat I talk to you guys
about this during the break. He was the founder of
the Magic Castle here in La. Are you guys interer
out on what magic shows?
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No idea what any of them out markets?
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The uh it's the central headquarters for magicians.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I've heard about it I've never been ray it's a
weird place.
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Yeah, I feel bad, but I think I have to
be Alex. I have no idea what Le's talking about.
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I'm on magic freaking like. I love how people can
kind of piece together some devices and some props and
get you to buy into the illusion. Didn't the Eagles
have a long snapper? What's that guy's name? Who is
a really good magician? Like I would.
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Like, Yeah, that's a really good magician.
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Now? You see it? Now?
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John Dornbos? Yeah? Very good? What else we got lead.
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In and Out seventy fifth anniversary chain out here on
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Yeah.
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I don't know what any of that was.
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the just things you want to do. It was very
LA centric today. Yes, I'm in what that Lea's the
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