June 16, 2023 • 38 mins
Why did Tom Brady choose to become a minority owner of the Raiders over the Patriots? Justin Fields and DJ Moore display fast chemistry but history is against them in Chicago. Plus, the weekly edition of “Over/Under
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question for you, but we got to set this up
for us. Tom Brady was talking with the Associated Press
(03:47):
recently about him becoming a minority owner with the Las
Vegas Raiders, and so they asked him a little bit
about it, and he just, you know, he said, you know,
in so many words, I grew up in the Bay
Area group a fan of the forty nine ers. The
team across the Bay was the Raiders. It's an icon
iconic franchise. Look at all the influence they've had, from
(04:08):
Al Davis to all and all of that is true.
Like the Raiders, Yeah, they're there. I don't want to
say they're a laughing stock, but they've been a little
bit of a laughing stock over the past several years.
But man, back in the day, the Autumn Wind, John Madden,
Al Davis, Kenny Stabler, like all of those great Raider legends,
really do they do make up a lot of the
(04:29):
fabric of the NFL. Like if you if you trace
the NFL Zato, like the.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Bad Boys like Howie Long Yes, Lester Hayes, Yes, Marcus Allen,
Jim Plunkett, Bo Jackson, kind of sort of Todd Christiansen.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, American gladiator Don Mosebar, Wow, how about it. A
lot of great legendary raiders and many that we forget writers. Yeah,
many you know Matt Millan, like many of you know
about Matt Miller. Come on, man, yeah, yeah, Matt Miller.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We are right, if we had some bad news, come
on here, so stupid. He's got to be the dumbest
man in the world. Look, you know, anybody ever get
caught up in anything like that in state college, you
have got to be the dumbest, most sickest, sick, sicky
sick o ever keep him away from a pet storm? Geez,
(05:33):
who you telling? Or humane society? You know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Anybody wondering any details on the story, we just reference
you can look that up. Was it a professor?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It was a professor, was like an award winning professor
dog or somebody else's dogs. I don't know. I think
it was just random random, uh strays, which we don't
even have strays in state college.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But yeah, apparently apparently a professor at Pens State some.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Weird personal proclivities which put it this way.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh, there's dog walkers and then there's this apparently there
was some shenanigans going on with an animal.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So like the reports, the was like butt naked walking around.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I mean, I think I don't know, man, Yeah, very
very strange and a lot of the details graphic in nature.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Happening in state college. I don't know something, right, Yeah,
I don't know. I need to figure that one out.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
By the way, to look on Lee's faces, he's just
now discovering the details. But look at Lee, why are
you so perplexed by this story out of Happy Valley?
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Well he did have socks and shoes on, so there, well,
there you go. Yeah, dog, he's getting it. I don't
know if I want to keep reading. I'm pretty certain
that was it. And it was a dog, right, a collie?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah? Collie? Was it a border? Was it? What did
they say? Which one? Yeah? Look all right, well let's
move on, all right too soon? Huh? That's just the
I'm going there next next week, so I want to
find out some details on the ground, like what was
(07:21):
going on with you?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You should change your ring tone to who let the
dogs out? When you're talking to people about it. Just
see if they notice, Just just see what their thoughts
are on now.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't know, man, you just gotta be just just
I don't know, remake a turner and hooch. So but
the point being, as we talk about all time, if
it was anybody else's school, I'd be laughing at this, like, yeah,
I gotta, I gotta like you know, but at least
you see I'm not afraid to make fun of myself though. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Look, I mean people, very very disturbing stuff, but very
disturbing as we transition and smoothly oyes Tom Brady and
the Las Vegas Raiders. He's a minority owner. Here's the
part that I'm a little confused by. It's this quote
from Brady. So he talked about what sort of role
he would have and being an owner of the Raiders.
(08:16):
He said the following, I'm gonna have a very passive role.
It's something that I'm interested in doing for the rest
of my life. This is not something I'm into for
a year or two years. I've got a lot of
responsibility with my Fox job, which I take very seriously.
But if I'm looking over the course of my life,
to have the opportunity to be involved in the NFL
as a dream come true. And if I got to
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help the NFL and continue to contribute in a positive way,
then you know, that's been a very enjoyable part of
my life. So he's talking about growing up in the
Bay Area dream come true, being able to be a
minority owner. If all of that is true, and I'm
not saying that it's not, why the hell wouldn't Bob
(08:56):
Kraft make this happen with the Patriots. It's a great question,
like why does he have to go It's not like
he rooted for the Raiders. He even alluded to it.
He grew up a forty nine er fan. I mean
forty nine Ers and Raiders like they don't exactly get along,
Like those are arch rivals. So the idea that he
would want to be an owner or be a minority owner,
(09:20):
why there and why wouldn't it be made possible in
New England?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I think it's a great question. I don't know that
I have the answer to that one. It's because it
just just makes a little that makes too much sense.
And I don't think that this is a conversation where
you say, oh, well, maybe that could create friction between
Belichick and and ownership or whatever it may be. I
think that's a very logical and a very sensible question
(09:48):
to ask, and would I would assume that most people
would would be curious, although I will say the value
of the New England Patriots is up. It's it's very
very high up. And the Los Angeles don't excuse me, yeah,
the Vegas excuse the Las Vegas Raiders. I just don't
(10:12):
know how far out over their skis are they right
now in terms of, you know, what they're generating. I'm
sure their value is is up just because the brand
is so strong and the fan base is so strong.
But I mean unless they cash is it a cash
(10:33):
strapped is this? Is this a way of trying to
stimulate what what the Raiders are doing right now?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The only here's my guess, because the Raiders, and look
it's been talked about Mark Davis is not as cash
rich as some of these other owners in the NFL,
like you know, he doesn't you know. And and when
we say he's not rich, I mean that's you know,
we're putting it into the perspective of NFL owners like
for us, for everyday people. I mean, he's super wealthy.
I mean the guy walks around with doll hair. I mean,
(11:03):
you've got to have a lot of money. I mean,
if that's the case, Sidney cut his hair off, I
believe he might have cut it off. Let's hope he
grows it back, because it is something to behold. But
when you look at the situation in Las Vegas, maybe
it's a case of Brady views Las Vegas as a
spot to where he you know, some of his other
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business ventures can take off from there as well too,
Like if they opened up a TB twelve in Las Vegas,
Like if they opened up something like that, that would
be my guess as to why this would be an
ideal spot for him. I also think that's part of
the reason why maybe he wanted to go and play
there back in twenty twenty, not only just because he
felt like, Okay, this is a team, you know, maybe
(11:47):
I feel like I could do some things with. But
I also think that he looked at it following his
career like maybe this is a play where I set
up at ground level and I can sort of branch
out and do other things business wise. Because if it's
just about relationships and wanting to stay involved with the NFL,
the idea that he wouldn't be in New England with
(12:08):
Robert Craft, who he's extremely close to for the remainder
of his career in some capacity is a little is
a little odd to me, So this must But he.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Got in, you know, he got in, and he's obviously
getting I don't know how significant his inn is, but
he's in. It's being discussed. He feels like it's something
he can do for the rest of his life and
turn it into a legacy deal for his family. So
it must be a very significant, you know, equity stake
(12:40):
play for what he's doing. Whether it be the equity
coming from his brand and not as much from the
money side of it, I'm not even sure. Again, it
could be a vulnerability type of scenario that's playing out
here where they feel like they can leverage the fact
that Tom Brady is an owner on on their ownership group.
(13:02):
I also would say maybe there's the possibility that this
continues to be the idea of Tom Brady showing that
he can be a part of building a winner. You know,
if you build a winner in New England, Bill Belichick
is there, Craft is there, and that was an element
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that was there before Tom Brady even got to New England.
And so maybe he's just looking at it from the
standpoint of he gets to start anew You know, this
isn't Al Davis, this is his this is his son.
This has not been a team that has had tremendous
success since Al Davis has left. So you not only
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have ownership in this football team, you have ownership in
the women's basketball team. And it is a growing, a
growing market for sports. Everything that I've heard, and you
know you've been a part of this as well, and
speaking to people from Vegas, they are trying to turn
(14:07):
Vegas into the epicenter of sports. Oh yeah, like they
want it to be, and not just for the the
obvious pronounced reasons of gambling. They want to have quality sports,
quality athletes, and they want that to be the place
where it is the most entertaining place for sports.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
And why not, what do they not have in Las Vegas.
They've got phenomenal restaurants, They've got to do something to
do every single night, Like anything you could possibly imagine
you want to do in Las Vegas you can do.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And to the crazy thing about it is to be
a part of a franchise in Vegas. You can't be
too outrageous, Like they have fountains, they have a palace,
they have casinos.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Do you remember back in the day when Vegas was
starting to blow up and people were starting to move there,
there was sort of a narrative because I had a
buddy who moved there. I had other people that I
knew that went and bought a place there because you
could get a place pretty affordable in Vegas back in
the day, and there was sort of a narrative surrounding, well,
you're going to Vegas. We know why. Now it's like
when somebody tells you they're going to Vegas, Like there's
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a lot of people that go there that don't gamble.
There's a lot of people that go there that don't
they're in Vegas because they're looking at Vegas as an
opportunity to where business is growing, you know, where you've
seen all these other you know, places be developed. Like
every single time I'm in Vegas, it seems like they're
building a new casino or they're building a new like
it just it's never ending.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
They're renovating. You know, you're thinking about places where people
frequently visit. There's California, there's New York. You know, those
are like the ones that are hit. Texas gets hit
a lot. But to have a concentrated place like where
else What other market has that type of a concentrated
(16:06):
amount of people like Vegas is Las Vegas? Right if
you say, if you say California, you can say, I
mean that's very vast, right, Like you could say southern California.
I guess you could say La. But in La you're
you're talking about. There's so many in which I guess
(16:28):
you could say this about Vegas. But culturally speaking, there's
so many other things you can do. You know, you
can be into the beach, you can be into other sports,
and and that's kind of the thing you're not. You're
not really like we talked about the the the parade
(16:49):
after the Rams won, right, and how there was like
barely anyone there wasn't like a Sportstown parade.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's so spread out.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But then they talked about how crazy it was for
for the Golden Knights winning the Stanley Cup and how
crazy that you know, that parade was. You can clearly
see that it has the makings of being a true
sports town in Vegas, and I think that could be
the advantage they have even over a market as large
(17:19):
as as Los Angeles. So is the parade tomorrow, Well,
it was something that took place where they were. They
were all out in the streets celebrate. Maybe it was
right after they won that that it was just total
mayhem going on in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean, have you seen video of those players going
around with the Stanley Cup. They're going on a bender.
They're at the pool, they're at man Like, have you
seen the Encore.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Pool in Vegas? Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Good god? You sit in a swimming pool and there's
a sports book outside? Was it on top of the roof?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's a place is incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Vegas is incredible. It's unbelievable. Vegas is incredible. I'm going
next month for the Earl Spence and uh Terence Crafty fight.
Oh be there. It's turning into a true sports town though,
and it's it's an amazing sports town and it's a
great place for someone like Tom Brady to get in
and some owners.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Once you got over the phobia and the taboo that
was gambling on sports. Once people got over it and realized, Okay,
it's safe to play here. You've seen what's happened since
now the a's are the next to come. And it
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got that heartburn, it's either vegas or something else.
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Man that that Penn State professor story. Eh oh, Man,
So you just want to just keep bringing it. I
get it out, I said, let's get I mean, we
got it out of the systems.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I just keep going. Huh. You know, you know that
is a very touchy situation to any type of situations,
which why would there ever be any more situations like
this to ever occur.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I've heard of playing fetch, but this is a whole
other level dressed Thank you, coach Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Wang, Oh my gosh. Controversy. What did you just say?
What did you just say? You've heard of playing fetch,
but it's too soon we are. That's messed up. You
said that, that's messed up, all right, So it's messed up.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So one of the interesting situations to watch in the
NFL this upcoming is the Chicago Bears, who are in
a big year for Justin fields. And here's year number three,
year number two from Maddie Raflus, the head coach in Chicago,
and they have tried to add pieces around Justin Fields,
one of those pieces being DJ Moore, who was a
(22:00):
key ingredient to the trade that was orchestrated between them
and the Panthers, which allowed Carolina to move up to
number one. They traded a first round pick, they swapped
some picks. The Bears got a first round next year,
and they landed DJ Moore, who's a really talented wide
receiver and immediately becomes the best receiver in Chicago. Well,
Justin Fields spoke about the chemistry thus far with DJ Moore,
(22:25):
and apparently it's nothing but positive things.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It did come quickly.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I didn't really expect anything, because it's different for each
each guy, but I feel like with Dj, it's you know,
his body language is pretty easy to read. Really early
on we communicated on you know, how we want you know,
each routes ran and stuff like that. And of course,
you know, he's a lot of experience. He's been in
the league for you know, a good a good period
of time now, so you know, he's played a lot
of football, so he knows, you know, different coverages really well.
(22:51):
That's one thing that I was kind of impressive about,
like with the offense coming in and just you know,
understanding seeing coverages really well on choice routes and stuff
like that. So no, he's been great, and you know
that the chemistry has definitely picked up.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, so everything's on, you know, going smooth so far,
and it feels like, man, this is you know, things
are going to go well in Chicago except for the
whole thing. A history that pops in because you know
that the Bears have struggled in the passing game so
much so that they're the only team in the history
of the league that doesn't have a four thousand yard
passer in a season, only team in the history of
(23:25):
the league. And when it comes to receivers, they're not
exactly the team that's loaded at receiver that you look
at and go, hey, this is a team that if
they land a wide receiver, they're off and running and
they're going to be a real threat when it comes
to throwing the football. In the NFL, they're top two
leading receivers in the history of the franchise are Walter
(23:47):
Payton and Matt Forte. Yeah, yes, they have in common.
And when you just go down the list of wide receivers,
you've got Curtis Conway who was there for a short time.
You've got Marty Booker, You've got all Sean Jeffrey who
things ended bad and he went on to Philadelphia and
won a Super Bowl. Alan Robinson another Penn State guy.
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Things were going well with him, He had great numbers
with Mitch Trubisky, and for whatever reason, the Bears decided, yeah,
we're gonna move on in another direction. Bobby Ingram's near
the top of the list, another Penn Stater like you
just you go down. Brandon Marshall man. Everybody loved Brandon Marshall.
He was there for about two years and then he
was gone and then ripped the organization afterwards. And then
(24:32):
you've got Mussin Mohammad, former Chicago Bear who was quoted
back in the day, is saying Chicago is the place
where receivers go to die because of his time in Chicago.
And then this song.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Cleveland, I thought was Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Cleveland's had some better receivers than the Bears, though, I
believe so. A couple Jojo Arvisius another penn Stater. How
about that we are you know what, We're starting to
bring Penn State back after you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
If you want to keep if you want to keep
the fame of Pennsyl, Pennsylvania. You know DJ Moore is
from Pennsylvania, Is he really?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, all right, kid went to Maryland.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Here's the other. Here's the other fun fact that comes
to us by way of our Lord and Savior, Scott Shapiro,
Diehard Minnesota Vikings fan. This is how bad the receiving
history is for the Chicago Bears. Justin Jefferson needs two
hundred and thirty five more receiving yards to have, more
than any Bears player ever.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But the way it's being talked about is that DJ
Moore and Justin Fields, and on top of that, we
know the history of Ohio State quarterbacks at the NFL
level and how that has been a struggle. It feels
like as optimistic as everybody is in Jacko.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So while while the cat's away the misol play, you
do know that is like pulling your fingernails down a chalkboard.
To Brady Quinn, you do know that you cannot use
that correlation of bad quarterbacks out of Ohio State. He's
told us that one hundred times. Yeah, that's fine, listen,
we could get away with it right now. Why not
(26:16):
screw it?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And by the way, when he does come back, I'll
change my opinion when he comes back. And see if
anybody was listening that's the way this works. But the
point being, it feels like there's a lot of history.
It feels like it feels like there's a lot of
history on the side opposite of the Chicago Bears as
(26:41):
they embark on this season, and I hope it works out.
I love Justin Fields as a player, as a leader,
I heard nothing but great things. Same with DJ Moore,
But it does feel like, man, they could be up
against it if you go based on the history of
the organization at both of those positions.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Moving forward, If Justin Fields improves, which I think everyone
is expecting, anticipating that he will improve by a tremendous
amount this upcoming season, and having someone of the caliber
of a DJ More, you know, it's one of those
(27:17):
things where if he's able to have success, it's largely
in part going to be one the belief in what
Justin Fields is able to do to the protection of
Justin Fields in terms of what they are able to
do up front, having someone that can get open that
(27:37):
he can throw the ball to, and understanding that the
North is up for grabs this year, You're not coming
into a situation where you would say this is a
daunting task to be a top of the NFC North.
It just doesn't. It just does not come across that way.
(27:58):
So this is one of those This is one of
those those golden pivotal moments. At the same time for
this Chicago Bears team, one they've been building up through
the draft. They have some talent, There are opportunities for
taking some some very definitive steps forward. But the question
(28:22):
still remains, can Justin Fields be can he transition into
being that type of quarterback for this team? And do
you have a coaching staff that can actually get the
best out of these players on this team? And do
you have the right assortment of players on your team?
Their defense has been pretty you know, they've been pretty solid.
(28:47):
The offense with with Justin Fields. Justin Fields has in
essence been their offense. Can you can you show more
diversity within your offensive scheme? I think I think they
got a shot win in that division. I really do.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I mean, anyone who's playing in that division right now,
in theory, has a shot. I can't sit here and
say definitively there is one team that is going to
dominate the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That one's up for graud.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Even though you want to sit here and say it's
it's the Detroit Lions. I just cannot go along with
this whole idea of crowning this team and an amazing
team when they have yet to show that they're an
elite team. I would say the NFC North in the
NFC South with Atlanta, both of those are for grips,
(29:41):
which which is kind of refreshing because you just assumed
that everything was going to run through Green Bay based
on Aaron Rodgers being there for all those years and
his dominance in the divisions. Now it all opens up
and if look, there's Justin Fields is one of those
guys that's sort of a popular pick to potentially be
an MVP dark horse, just based on the fact that
(30:03):
it's a tremendously big job. I just like, I'm not
going to go that far. I'm not going to put
that on him, but I think he can make a
tremendous I think he can make a tremendous strave forward.
But MVP.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
According to DraftKings, Justin Fields has the same odds as
Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence and Aaron Rodgers to be
MVP plus fourteen hundred. Only Patrick Mahomes Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurtz,
Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson have better MVP odds.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, so there's a lot of hype there. There's a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You don't think very highly of those guys that had
the same odds then, and how can you not with
with those names?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, you know my pick I got, I got rogers
of fourteen to one. I think that's happening if he
turns around the New York Jets, which have been the
diaper fire of the NFL for years and they have
a successful regular season. Just the narrative and the story
going around it. I think you got to look at
Aaron Rodgers. I think you got to. There's just it's
(31:09):
a narrative driven award.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I would give him higher. I would give him higher
betting odds than just just Oh, I would agree. I
don't understand how they're the same, Yeah, Justin Herbert maybe
I would still give him higher odds.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Trevor Lawrence maybe, but I would even still give him
higher odds because they've performed at a higher level. I
don't know how they would be the same odds. That's strange.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, I mean it just like the thing about it though,
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Speaker 1 (33:32):
I have been losing.
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Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's over under all, right, lead the lap.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
What do we got, guys? A quick recap of last week.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
You guys were correct that the Nuggets Heat series would
end up six, would end in six. That is correct,
you guys if you had the over under of two
and a half. So you guys were correct that the
Nuggets would win out. You guys were correct that Nunyaz
versus Aldana would go over two and a half rounds.
And LeVar, you you pulled away on the Ti Femo
(34:03):
Lopez versus Josh Taylor fight. You correctly predict the over
where t Femo Lopez got the unanimous decision. So good
job LeVar again keeping your wind streak going.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
By the way, what a great fight that one. Yeah,
all right, what do we got this week?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
All right, this week?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You guys, lots going on this weekend. Let's start with
the NFL. We got DeAndre Hopkins. Watch going do we
get a signing over under on a signing.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
On at a half? Excuse me say that again?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
DeAndre Hopkins signings out.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
A half out of half out of half? What I
don't know? Like, what do you mean like a week?
Does he sign next week by this time week?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So is that the over? That's the under? That's the under?
Are you sure? Yeah? Okay, he doesn't sign by this
time next week? So I'm taking the under.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So doesn't sign.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Is the under correct? It seems like that should be
the over. Yeah, it should be the I mean, but
it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Like if he doesn't sign by this week, that would
be over next week, so the under.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Would be if he signs before next week.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'll take the over in that case.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So yeah, but you just switched.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It beyond next week. Beyond next week. I don't think
he signs by this time next week, so.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Over that's the That's why I said take the over.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, but you already took the under.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Thank you, Sam.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I was saying, would there be a signing over under
at a half? But I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, Like whether or not it's it's fine. Listen, do
you believe this next week we can do it by
that way?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Over under.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I don't believe he's going to sign.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't believe he's going to sign, so whatever that is,
I don't believe he will be signed. That's why I
make sure I preface, preface, pre preface. Guys. I'm tired today,
same question. I'm tired.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
The same question for Dalvin Cook, is there is a
signing by this time next week?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Take it. So whatever that is, Yes, I'm saying no,
he will not be signed. So if that's the over,
I'm taking the over on him not being signed. If
it's the under, I'm taking the under on him not
being signed.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Got it?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
You guys both say no signing for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Not next week.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
There will be a signing for Dalvin Cook. According to
Jonas John It's correct it guys.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We already have a hole in one at the US
Open on the fifteenth hole by Sam Burns. Will there
be another hole in one at the US Open?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Over?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Under and a half?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
All right? So what is no? There will not be,
there will be there's a hole in one. I'm taking
me under that there will not be another hole in one.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, I'll take I'll take the under as well too, Lee.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
All right, guys, NASCAR had Nashville Speedway otter even famous.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm staying out. It's even. It happens even every single time,
but I'm going to go off.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Let's see Nashville. I don't like how the track is designed.
I just I feel like that's an issue for you know.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
For the even numbers.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I'll take first. You're like, I'll take evenly go into
even Jonas. I like it all right, Fellas pick show Hao.
Tony's got an eleven game hit streak.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
It's the second longest in his career, as longest being
eighteen over under on his hit streak eleven.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
And a half. By the way, it's actually up to
twelve now. He got one yesterday. But if we go
twelve and a half, I'll take the under.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I think it ends very next game, I'm going to
take the over.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, I'll be the Haterly we have your pipe and
smoke it, lad and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Cherry Red skirt down the avenue. I was like, bump
that I spun out you with lots of humpcap. I
was like, what's that? Straight from Pei's skirt. Perry ellis
high word trust, no one got to get them and
(01:02):
the big apple where it's quick to get your tackle
me skirt Jimmy bred that's a big pun.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
That is big pun. Yeah, I don't know that's big pun.
What's that look for, Eddie. I'm not up on big pun.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Oh my gosh, Well the way you just said.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It, I'm up on game and I'm up on big
Here you go, here, you go here, He shouts out
the veto Veats.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Did you know that was his nickname? You didn't know that,
did you? Beats? Yeah, I mean, I have no idea
who that is not not familiar with. Oh that's his nickname,
you know. And the crew up on Gang Crew we
call him Viats. I don't know. I don't know who
Veto is. Okay, yeah, no, not not Veto Veats, Beats, Yeah, yeah,
all right, Okay.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
There you go, Beats and I go way back. But
apparently he's moved on.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Well, blood is thicker than water. Oh yeah, yeah, you know.
Apparently apparently you thought that going back meant that it
was blood, but it was really water.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You can have Veto. I got Lee and Sam. I'll
take I.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
No, you don't have Sam. Sam is up on game too,
and it's Sam for some reason ends up being with
two pros and a cup of Joes. He's still up
on game because he's with his boy. Look look at
how happy he is, Look Bawn.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Sam had to come to me. Sam came to me
yesterday and said, hey, what are their superhero names on
up on game?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
And I said, what was what were they?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
King of the Mammals, Ye, mister Pantine Man, Yeah, Stretch
Armstrong you just said, French Armstrong.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
That's not what it is.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I said, Stretch arm Strong, That's not what I heard. Yeah,
listen back to it.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
You get a little Ralph shout out. That was a
little Ralph shout. I shot out there. We miss you Ralph,
We miss your Ralph. Yeah, and he used to give
us those great up on game shout shout outs.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Ralph Machio. Yeah, what are you talking about? Our update? Ralph?
Ralph Irvin Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Very angry, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But the most violent man in sports radio Ruff was
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The way tire buying should be. So I got a
question for you, but we got to set this up
for us. Tom Brady was talking with the Associated Press
(03:47):
recently about him becoming a minority owner with the Las
Vegas Raiders, and so they asked him a little bit
about it, and he just, you know, he said, you know,
in so many words, I grew up in the Bay
Area group a fan of the forty nine ers. The
team across the Bay was the Raiders. It's an icon
iconic franchise. Look at all the influence they've had, from
(04:08):
Al Davis to all and all of that is true.
Like the Raiders, Yeah, they're there. I don't want to
say they're a laughing stock, but they've been a little
bit of a laughing stock over the past several years.
But man, back in the day, the Autumn Wind, John Madden,
Al Davis, Kenny Stabler, like all of those great Raider legends,
really do they do make up a lot of the
(04:29):
fabric of the NFL. Like if you if you trace
the NFL Zato, like the.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Bad Boys like Howie Long Yes, Lester Hayes, Yes, Marcus Allen,
Jim Plunkett, Bo Jackson, kind of sort of Todd Christiansen.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, American gladiator Don Mosebar, Wow, how about it. A
lot of great legendary raiders and many that we forget writers. Yeah,
many you know Matt Millan, like many of you know
about Matt Miller. Come on, man, yeah, yeah, Matt Miller.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We are right, if we had some bad news, come
on here, so stupid. He's got to be the dumbest
man in the world. Look, you know, anybody ever get
caught up in anything like that in state college, you
have got to be the dumbest, most sickest, sick, sicky
sick o ever keep him away from a pet storm? Geez,
(05:33):
who you telling? Or humane society? You know. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Anybody wondering any details on the story, we just reference
you can look that up. Was it a professor?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It was a professor, was like an award winning professor
dog or somebody else's dogs. I don't know. I think
it was just random random, uh strays, which we don't
even have strays in state college.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
But yeah, apparently apparently a professor at Pens State some.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Weird personal proclivities which put it this way.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Uh, there's dog walkers and then there's this apparently there
was some shenanigans going on with an animal.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
So like the reports, the was like butt naked walking around.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
I mean, I think I don't know, man, Yeah, very
very strange and a lot of the details graphic in nature.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Happening in state college. I don't know something, right, Yeah,
I don't know. I need to figure that one out.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
By the way, to look on Lee's faces, he's just
now discovering the details. But look at Lee, why are
you so perplexed by this story out of Happy Valley?
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Well he did have socks and shoes on, so there, well,
there you go. Yeah, dog, he's getting it. I don't
know if I want to keep reading. I'm pretty certain
that was it. And it was a dog, right, a collie?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah? Collie? Was it a border? Was it? What did
they say? Which one? Yeah? Look all right, well let's
move on, all right too soon? Huh? That's just the
I'm going there next next week, so I want to
find out some details on the ground, like what was
(07:21):
going on with you?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
You should change your ring tone to who let the
dogs out? When you're talking to people about it. Just
see if they notice, Just just see what their thoughts
are on now.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't know, man, you just gotta be just just
I don't know, remake a turner and hooch. So but
the point being, as we talk about all time, if
it was anybody else's school, I'd be laughing at this, like, yeah,
I gotta, I gotta like you know, but at least
you see I'm not afraid to make fun of myself though. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Look, I mean people, very very disturbing stuff, but very
disturbing as we transition and smoothly oyes Tom Brady and
the Las Vegas Raiders. He's a minority owner. Here's the
part that I'm a little confused by. It's this quote
from Brady. So he talked about what sort of role
he would have and being an owner of the Raiders.
(08:16):
He said the following, I'm gonna have a very passive role.
It's something that I'm interested in doing for the rest
of my life. This is not something I'm into for
a year or two years. I've got a lot of
responsibility with my Fox job, which I take very seriously.
But if I'm looking over the course of my life,
to have the opportunity to be involved in the NFL
as a dream come true. And if I got to
(08:36):
help the NFL and continue to contribute in a positive way,
then you know, that's been a very enjoyable part of
my life. So he's talking about growing up in the
Bay Area dream come true, being able to be a
minority owner. If all of that is true, and I'm
not saying that it's not, why the hell wouldn't Bob
(08:56):
Kraft make this happen with the Patriots. It's a great question,
like why does he have to go It's not like
he rooted for the Raiders. He even alluded to it.
He grew up a forty nine er fan. I mean
forty nine Ers and Raiders like they don't exactly get along,
Like those are arch rivals. So the idea that he
would want to be an owner or be a minority owner,
(09:20):
why there and why wouldn't it be made possible in
New England?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I think it's a great question. I don't know that
I have the answer to that one. It's because it
just just makes a little that makes too much sense.
And I don't think that this is a conversation where
you say, oh, well, maybe that could create friction between
Belichick and and ownership or whatever it may be. I
think that's a very logical and a very sensible question
(09:48):
to ask, and would I would assume that most people
would would be curious, although I will say the value
of the New England Patriots is up. It's it's very
very high up. And the Los Angeles don't excuse me, yeah,
the Vegas excuse the Las Vegas Raiders. I just don't
(10:12):
know how far out over their skis are they right
now in terms of, you know, what they're generating. I'm
sure their value is is up just because the brand
is so strong and the fan base is so strong.
But I mean unless they cash is it a cash
(10:33):
strapped is this? Is this a way of trying to
stimulate what what the Raiders are doing right now?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
The only here's my guess, because the Raiders, and look
it's been talked about Mark Davis is not as cash
rich as some of these other owners in the NFL,
like you know, he doesn't you know. And and when
we say he's not rich, I mean that's you know,
we're putting it into the perspective of NFL owners like
for us, for everyday people. I mean, he's super wealthy.
I mean the guy walks around with doll hair. I mean,
(11:03):
you've got to have a lot of money. I mean,
if that's the case, Sidney cut his hair off, I
believe he might have cut it off. Let's hope he
grows it back, because it is something to behold. But
when you look at the situation in Las Vegas, maybe
it's a case of Brady views Las Vegas as a
spot to where he you know, some of his other
(11:25):
business ventures can take off from there as well too,
Like if they opened up a TB twelve in Las Vegas,
Like if they opened up something like that, that would
be my guess as to why this would be an
ideal spot for him. I also think that's part of
the reason why maybe he wanted to go and play
there back in twenty twenty, not only just because he
felt like, Okay, this is a team, you know, maybe
(11:47):
I feel like I could do some things with. But
I also think that he looked at it following his
career like maybe this is a play where I set
up at ground level and I can sort of branch
out and do other things business wise. Because if it's
just about relationships and wanting to stay involved with the NFL,
the idea that he wouldn't be in New England with
(12:08):
Robert Craft, who he's extremely close to for the remainder
of his career in some capacity is a little is
a little odd to me, So this must But he.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Got in, you know, he got in, and he's obviously
getting I don't know how significant his inn is, but
he's in. It's being discussed. He feels like it's something
he can do for the rest of his life and
turn it into a legacy deal for his family. So
it must be a very significant, you know, equity stake
(12:40):
play for what he's doing. Whether it be the equity
coming from his brand and not as much from the
money side of it, I'm not even sure. Again, it
could be a vulnerability type of scenario that's playing out
here where they feel like they can leverage the fact
that Tom Brady is an owner on on their ownership group.
(13:02):
I also would say maybe there's the possibility that this
continues to be the idea of Tom Brady showing that
he can be a part of building a winner. You know,
if you build a winner in New England, Bill Belichick
is there, Craft is there, and that was an element
(13:23):
that was there before Tom Brady even got to New England.
And so maybe he's just looking at it from the
standpoint of he gets to start anew You know, this
isn't Al Davis, this is his this is his son.
This has not been a team that has had tremendous
success since Al Davis has left. So you not only
(13:46):
have ownership in this football team, you have ownership in
the women's basketball team. And it is a growing, a
growing market for sports. Everything that I've heard, and you
know you've been a part of this as well, and
speaking to people from Vegas, they are trying to turn
(14:07):
Vegas into the epicenter of sports. Oh yeah, like they
want it to be, and not just for the the
obvious pronounced reasons of gambling. They want to have quality sports,
quality athletes, and they want that to be the place
where it is the most entertaining place for sports.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
And why not, what do they not have in Las Vegas.
They've got phenomenal restaurants, They've got to do something to
do every single night, Like anything you could possibly imagine
you want to do in Las Vegas you can do.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
And to the crazy thing about it is to be
a part of a franchise in Vegas. You can't be
too outrageous, Like they have fountains, they have a palace,
they have casinos.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Do you remember back in the day when Vegas was
starting to blow up and people were starting to move there,
there was sort of a narrative because I had a
buddy who moved there. I had other people that I
knew that went and bought a place there because you
could get a place pretty affordable in Vegas back in
the day, and there was sort of a narrative surrounding, well,
you're going to Vegas. We know why. Now it's like
when somebody tells you they're going to Vegas, Like there's
(15:20):
a lot of people that go there that don't gamble.
There's a lot of people that go there that don't
they're in Vegas because they're looking at Vegas as an
opportunity to where business is growing, you know, where you've
seen all these other you know, places be developed. Like
every single time I'm in Vegas, it seems like they're
building a new casino or they're building a new like
it just it's never ending.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
They're renovating. You know, you're thinking about places where people
frequently visit. There's California, there's New York. You know, those
are like the ones that are hit. Texas gets hit
a lot. But to have a concentrated place like where
else What other market has that type of a concentrated
(16:06):
amount of people like Vegas is Las Vegas? Right if
you say, if you say California, you can say, I
mean that's very vast, right, Like you could say southern California.
I guess you could say La. But in La you're
you're talking about. There's so many in which I guess
(16:28):
you could say this about Vegas. But culturally speaking, there's
so many other things you can do. You know, you
can be into the beach, you can be into other sports,
and and that's kind of the thing you're not. You're
not really like we talked about the the the parade
(16:49):
after the Rams won, right, and how there was like
barely anyone there wasn't like a Sportstown parade.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It's so spread out.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
But then they talked about how crazy it was for
for the Golden Knights winning the Stanley Cup and how
crazy that you know, that parade was. You can clearly
see that it has the makings of being a true
sports town in Vegas, and I think that could be
the advantage they have even over a market as large
(17:19):
as as Los Angeles. So is the parade tomorrow, Well,
it was something that took place where they were. They
were all out in the streets celebrate. Maybe it was
right after they won that that it was just total
mayhem going on in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
I mean, have you seen video of those players going
around with the Stanley Cup. They're going on a bender.
They're at the pool, they're at man Like, have you
seen the Encore.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Pool in Vegas? Yes?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Good god? You sit in a swimming pool and there's
a sports book outside? Was it on top of the roof?
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like?
Speaker 3 (17:54):
It's a place is incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Vegas is incredible. It's unbelievable. Vegas is incredible. I'm going
next month for the Earl Spence and uh Terence Crafty fight.
Oh be there. It's turning into a true sports town though,
and it's it's an amazing sports town and it's a
great place for someone like Tom Brady to get in
and some owners.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Once you got over the phobia and the taboo that
was gambling on sports. Once people got over it and realized, Okay,
it's safe to play here. You've seen what's happened since
now the a's are the next to come. And it
just like anybody that stresses out in life. If you
got that heartburn, it's either vegas or something else.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I certainly will tell you if you are gambling a
whole lot and you're doing those things and eating food
and not getting enough sleep, you will develop some heartburn.
And if you're tired of chewing chalky assets, you know,
that's and acids that is all day long. I won't
say the brands, but you might want to try my people,
Prolosacho TC. You know, with just one pill each morning,
(18:58):
you can experience a fool twenty four hours of zero
heartburn while you're doing all of those extra curriculars. That's right.
It's possible while taking Prowisak OTC to get that twenty
four hour relief. But you have to use it as
directive for fourteen days to treat frequent heartburn, so it's
not for immediate relief. Just know that it's fourteen days. Yeah,
(19:21):
but Prolisak really does work. I use it. I subscribe
to it.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
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So coming up next somebody in the NFL is very
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About fifteen minutes from now from the tire rack dot
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and we have got some some gambling stuff to go
(20:45):
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Man that that Penn State professor story. Eh oh, Man,
So you just want to just keep bringing it. I
get it out, I said, let's get I mean, we
got it out of the systems.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I just keep going. Huh. You know, you know that
is a very touchy situation to any type of situations,
which why would there ever be any more situations like
this to ever occur.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I've heard of playing fetch, but this is a whole
other level dressed Thank you, coach Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Wang, Oh my gosh. Controversy. What did you just say?
What did you just say? You've heard of playing fetch,
but it's too soon we are. That's messed up. You
said that, that's messed up, all right, So it's messed up.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
So one of the interesting situations to watch in the
NFL this upcoming is the Chicago Bears, who are in
a big year for Justin fields. And here's year number three,
year number two from Maddie Raflus, the head coach in Chicago,
and they have tried to add pieces around Justin Fields,
one of those pieces being DJ Moore, who was a
(22:00):
key ingredient to the trade that was orchestrated between them
and the Panthers, which allowed Carolina to move up to
number one. They traded a first round pick, they swapped
some picks. The Bears got a first round next year,
and they landed DJ Moore, who's a really talented wide
receiver and immediately becomes the best receiver in Chicago. Well,
Justin Fields spoke about the chemistry thus far with DJ Moore,
(22:25):
and apparently it's nothing but positive things.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
It did come quickly.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
I didn't really expect anything, because it's different for each
each guy, but I feel like with Dj, it's you know,
his body language is pretty easy to read. Really early
on we communicated on you know, how we want you know,
each routes ran and stuff like that. And of course,
you know, he's a lot of experience. He's been in
the league for you know, a good a good period
of time now, so you know, he's played a lot
of football, so he knows, you know, different coverages really well.
(22:51):
That's one thing that I was kind of impressive about,
like with the offense coming in and just you know,
understanding seeing coverages really well on choice routes and stuff
like that. So no, he's been great, and you know
that the chemistry has definitely picked up.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, so everything's on, you know, going smooth so far,
and it feels like, man, this is you know, things
are going to go well in Chicago except for the
whole thing. A history that pops in because you know
that the Bears have struggled in the passing game so
much so that they're the only team in the history
of the league that doesn't have a four thousand yard
passer in a season, only team in the history of
(23:25):
the league. And when it comes to receivers, they're not
exactly the team that's loaded at receiver that you look
at and go, hey, this is a team that if
they land a wide receiver, they're off and running and
they're going to be a real threat when it comes
to throwing the football. In the NFL, they're top two
leading receivers in the history of the franchise are Walter
(23:47):
Payton and Matt Forte. Yeah, yes, they have in common.
And when you just go down the list of wide receivers,
you've got Curtis Conway who was there for a short time.
You've got Marty Booker, You've got all Sean Jeffrey who
things ended bad and he went on to Philadelphia and
won a Super Bowl. Alan Robinson another Penn State guy.
(24:10):
Things were going well with him, He had great numbers
with Mitch Trubisky, and for whatever reason, the Bears decided, yeah,
we're gonna move on in another direction. Bobby Ingram's near
the top of the list, another Penn Stater like you
just you go down. Brandon Marshall man. Everybody loved Brandon Marshall.
He was there for about two years and then he
was gone and then ripped the organization afterwards. And then
(24:32):
you've got Mussin Mohammad, former Chicago Bear who was quoted
back in the day, is saying Chicago is the place
where receivers go to die because of his time in Chicago.
And then this song.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Cleveland, I thought was Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Cleveland's had some better receivers than the Bears, though, I
believe so. A couple Jojo Arvisius another penn Stater. How
about that we are you know what, We're starting to
bring Penn State back after you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
If you want to keep if you want to keep
the fame of Pennsyl, Pennsylvania. You know DJ Moore is
from Pennsylvania, Is he really?
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, all right, kid went to Maryland.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Here's the other. Here's the other fun fact that comes
to us by way of our Lord and Savior, Scott Shapiro,
Diehard Minnesota Vikings fan. This is how bad the receiving
history is for the Chicago Bears. Justin Jefferson needs two
hundred and thirty five more receiving yards to have, more
than any Bears player ever.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Ever.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But the way it's being talked about is that DJ
Moore and Justin Fields, and on top of that, we
know the history of Ohio State quarterbacks at the NFL
level and how that has been a struggle. It feels
like as optimistic as everybody is in Jacko.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So while while the cat's away the misol play, you
do know that is like pulling your fingernails down a chalkboard.
To Brady Quinn, you do know that you cannot use
that correlation of bad quarterbacks out of Ohio State. He's
told us that one hundred times. Yeah, that's fine, listen,
we could get away with it right now. Why not
(26:16):
screw it?
Speaker 3 (26:17):
And by the way, when he does come back, I'll
change my opinion when he comes back. And see if
anybody was listening that's the way this works. But the
point being, it feels like there's a lot of history.
It feels like it feels like there's a lot of
history on the side opposite of the Chicago Bears as
(26:41):
they embark on this season, and I hope it works out.
I love Justin Fields as a player, as a leader,
I heard nothing but great things. Same with DJ Moore,
But it does feel like, man, they could be up
against it if you go based on the history of
the organization at both of those positions.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Moving forward, If Justin Fields improves, which I think everyone
is expecting, anticipating that he will improve by a tremendous
amount this upcoming season, and having someone of the caliber
of a DJ More, you know, it's one of those
(27:17):
things where if he's able to have success, it's largely
in part going to be one the belief in what
Justin Fields is able to do to the protection of
Justin Fields in terms of what they are able to
do up front, having someone that can get open that
(27:37):
he can throw the ball to, and understanding that the
North is up for grabs this year, You're not coming
into a situation where you would say this is a
daunting task to be a top of the NFC North.
It just doesn't. It just does not come across that way.
(27:58):
So this is one of those This is one of
those those golden pivotal moments. At the same time for
this Chicago Bears team, one they've been building up through
the draft. They have some talent, There are opportunities for
taking some some very definitive steps forward. But the question
(28:22):
still remains, can Justin Fields be can he transition into
being that type of quarterback for this team? And do
you have a coaching staff that can actually get the
best out of these players on this team? And do
you have the right assortment of players on your team?
Their defense has been pretty you know, they've been pretty solid.
(28:47):
The offense with with Justin Fields. Justin Fields has in
essence been their offense. Can you can you show more
diversity within your offensive scheme? I think I think they
got a shot win in that division. I really do.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Well.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I mean, anyone who's playing in that division right now,
in theory, has a shot. I can't sit here and
say definitively there is one team that is going to
dominate the NFC North.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That one's up for graud.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Even though you want to sit here and say it's
it's the Detroit Lions. I just cannot go along with
this whole idea of crowning this team and an amazing
team when they have yet to show that they're an
elite team. I would say the NFC North in the
NFC South with Atlanta, both of those are for grips,
(29:41):
which which is kind of refreshing because you just assumed
that everything was going to run through Green Bay based
on Aaron Rodgers being there for all those years and
his dominance in the divisions. Now it all opens up
and if look, there's Justin Fields is one of those
guys that's sort of a popular pick to potentially be
an MVP dark horse, just based on the fact that
(30:03):
it's a tremendously big job. I just like, I'm not
going to go that far. I'm not going to put
that on him, but I think he can make a
tremendous I think he can make a tremendous strave forward.
But MVP.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
According to DraftKings, Justin Fields has the same odds as
Justin Herbert and Trevor Lawrence and Aaron Rodgers to be
MVP plus fourteen hundred. Only Patrick Mahomes Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurtz,
Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson have better MVP odds.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yeah, so there's a lot of hype there. There's a
lot of.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
You don't think very highly of those guys that had
the same odds then, and how can you not with
with those names?
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Well, you know my pick I got, I got rogers
of fourteen to one. I think that's happening if he
turns around the New York Jets, which have been the
diaper fire of the NFL for years and they have
a successful regular season. Just the narrative and the story
going around it. I think you got to look at
Aaron Rodgers. I think you got to. There's just it's
(31:09):
a narrative driven award.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
I would give him higher. I would give him higher
betting odds than just just Oh, I would agree. I
don't understand how they're the same, Yeah, Justin Herbert maybe
I would still give him higher odds.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Trevor Lawrence maybe, but I would even still give him
higher odds because they've performed at a higher level. I
don't know how they would be the same odds. That's strange.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Yeah, I mean it just like the thing about it though,
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Speaker 2 (33:29):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I have been losing.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
You know you're aligning low Life, Candly the Genuary.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's over under all, right, lead the lap.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
What do we got, guys? A quick recap of last week.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
You guys were correct that the Nuggets Heat series would
end up six, would end in six. That is correct,
you guys if you had the over under of two
and a half. So you guys were correct that the
Nuggets would win out. You guys were correct that Nunyaz
versus Aldana would go over two and a half rounds.
And LeVar, you you pulled away on the Ti Femo
(34:03):
Lopez versus Josh Taylor fight. You correctly predict the over
where t Femo Lopez got the unanimous decision. So good
job LeVar again keeping your wind streak going.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
By the way, what a great fight that one. Yeah,
all right, what do we got this week?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
All right, this week?
Speaker 5 (34:19):
You guys, lots going on this weekend. Let's start with
the NFL. We got DeAndre Hopkins. Watch going do we
get a signing over under on a signing.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
On at a half? Excuse me say that again?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
DeAndre Hopkins signings out.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
A half out of half out of half? What I
don't know? Like, what do you mean like a week?
Does he sign next week by this time week?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:46):
So is that the over? That's the under? That's the under?
Are you sure? Yeah? Okay, he doesn't sign by this
time next week? So I'm taking the under.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So doesn't sign.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Is the under correct? It seems like that should be
the over. Yeah, it should be the I mean, but
it is what it is.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Like if he doesn't sign by this week, that would
be over next week, so the under.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Would be if he signs before next week.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'll take the over in that case.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So yeah, but you just switched.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
It beyond next week. Beyond next week. I don't think
he signs by this time next week, so.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Over that's the That's why I said take the over.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, but you already took the under.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
I'm confused.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Thank you, Sam.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
I was saying, would there be a signing over under
at a half? But I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah, Like whether or not it's it's fine. Listen, do
you believe this next week we can do it by
that way?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Over under.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I don't believe he's going to sign.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
I don't believe he's going to sign, so whatever that is,
I don't believe he will be signed. That's why I
make sure I preface, preface, pre preface. Guys. I'm tired today,
same question. I'm tired.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
The same question for Dalvin Cook, is there is a
signing by this time next week?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
No?
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Take it. So whatever that is, Yes, I'm saying no,
he will not be signed. So if that's the over,
I'm taking the over on him not being signed. If
it's the under, I'm taking the under on him not
being signed.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Got it?
Speaker 5 (36:22):
You guys both say no signing for DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Not next week.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
There will be a signing for Dalvin Cook. According to
Jonas John It's correct it guys.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We already have a hole in one at the US
Open on the fifteenth hole by Sam Burns. Will there
be another hole in one at the US Open?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Over?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Under and a half?
Speaker 1 (36:38):
All right? So what is no? There will not be,
there will be there's a hole in one. I'm taking
me under that there will not be another hole in one.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Yeah, I'll take I'll take the under as well too, Lee.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
All right, guys, NASCAR had Nashville Speedway otter even famous.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm staying out. It's even. It happens even every single time,
but I'm going to go off.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Let's see Nashville. I don't like how the track is designed.
I just I feel like that's an issue for you know.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
For the even numbers.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
I'll take first. You're like, I'll take evenly go into
even Jonas. I like it all right, Fellas pick show Hao.
Tony's got an eleven game hit streak.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
It's the second longest in his career, as longest being
eighteen over under on his hit streak eleven.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
And a half. By the way, it's actually up to
twelve now. He got one yesterday. But if we go
twelve and a half, I'll take the under.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I think it ends very next game, I'm going to
take the over.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, I'll be the Haterly we have your pipe and
smoke it, lad and a half.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
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