June 26, 2023 • 41 mins
In the 3rd hour of the show, the guys continue their conversation around Antonio Brown & give their last thoughts regarding his comments on retiring from the NFL. They get in a debate about who deserves to be a HOF and Rod Smith's worthiness. plus, we get another great segment of You in or You out.
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earlier in the show about Antonio Brown. He decided to
go on Tyreek Hill's podcast, which, by the way, we
still got to get to the bottom of what happened
with Tyreek Hill. Did he or did he not tell
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somebody I could buy you and the boat at the
marina after you slap somebody like there's conflicting reports.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
On all that.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
My I mean, if he never said that, then I
totally exposed myself for no reason right when I gave
my example.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm glad you finished that thought just now. Yeah, so
goh it because when you said.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
If you would have just let it sit right there, yeah,
people would have been asking several questions like, what do
you mean you exposed yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, so at.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Least we are about ab Yes, that is true and
nothing is of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
That is fair.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Can we hear the Antonio Brown yet again? For those
that have missed it, this is Antonio Brown's latest claim
on the Tyreek Hill podcast about what went wrong with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He talked about Tom Brady Alex
Carrero giving him one hundred thousand dollars to work out
his body, him being banged up, him walking out on
the team because during the Jets game, this was Antonio
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brown side of the.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Story about to play the Jets and this week, I'm
really hurt. Like so I'm like taking pictures to the
coach like, coach, man, we're gonna win the Super Bowl. Man,
I think I need to just take these last two
weeks at least, like recover up so I could give
you my best when we to the time that mean
the most. We're here to win the super Bowl. So
the coach like, hey man, we ain't resting. So Tom
called me like, yo, this week man, the Jets, man,
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they sweet man, I'm gonna hit you with light ten
to twelve. So he gonna gas me up, so you
know me, that's all I need to hear, like, Yo,
you're gonna throw me the ball, just like me saying
like I got a new crib. These guys don't even
So now come playing the game. I'm hurt, like I'm
in my zone, super hurt, and it's like, YO, might
hurt myself more and they're not really trying to put
me in good position, like I'm not here to hurt myself.
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I'm here to help you guys win. I mean, getting
the ball, help you move the chains, get in the zone.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So right now we had a different time.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Right now, you guys not trying to see none of that.
You guys are mixing me with like he don't want
to work with me. I'm paying them. You don't want
to throw me the ball, and you're making me like
I'm crazy. So it's like I'm crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Call you nobody here.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So again that's Antonio Brown on the Tyreekhill Podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Can we go back to the beginning of the podcast
and just play the first part, like, now, listen to
it right now, think to yourself, I sent texts saying
that I'm hurt during the week. Now he's talking about
being hurt. But then he says he talks to Tom
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Brady and once Tom Brady gassed, he might be like,
all right, I'm gonna play check just listen, just listen
first part.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
To play the Jets and this week I'm really hurt.
Like so I'm like taking pictures to the coach, like
coach Man, we're gonna win the Super Bowl. Man, I
think I need to just take these last two weeks
at least like recover up so I could give you
my best when we to the time that me and
the most that we're here to win the Super Bowl.
So the coach like, hey, man, we ain't resting. So
Tom called me like, yo this week man. The Jets man,
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they sweet man, I'm gonna hit you with like ten
to twelve. So he gonna gass me up. So you
know me, that's all I need to hear, like, Yo,
you're gonna throw me the ball, just like me saying
like I got a new crib.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Cut off right there. If you're gonna throw me the ball,
I'm good to go. But if you ain't gonna throw
me the ball, I need to rest up. Yeah, I'm hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I can't play. Give me two.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Weeks, and I think, but if you're gonna throw me
ten balls, I get out there and play.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I think there were incentives also in this contract
that it would have behooved him to go out there
and play and be productive.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And if you're hurt, if you're hurt to the point
of where you got to ask not to play for
two weeks, that's not a conversation that first of all
takes place via text. That's first and foremost. That's one thing.
But then secondly, if you're texting your coach and you're
saying that, then your medical staff isn't doing what they
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need to do, right. I mean, that's gotta be one
of the conclusions if your player is saying, yeah, I
need two weeks. I feel this way, I'm hurt, Like
I'm hurt. I'm not out here to be hurt. But
if you want to throw me the ball ten times
like I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna play, it
just sounds a little It sounds a little curious to me.
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It sounds a little off to me. It's hard to
decipher where the truth is and what it is that
he's saying. And again, when you're talking about receivers, the
one thing that you can say for certain you know
about receivers is they want the ball, and when they're
not getting the ball, they're upset. That's through that's historically
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how receivers are. And not all of them are like that,
but a lot of them that's how they're wired because
that's just what it's it's they want the ball. You
can never give it. What was Keishawn's book called get
Me the damn Ball?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Like that?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You can never give a receiver the ball too many times.
So I just think that he was conflicted with wanting.
He probably truly wanted to. Nobody's ever going to question
that man's work ethic, oh no, And you're not going
to question his heart and his will to compete. But
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what you will question is is his his way of
going about communicating, his way of handling frustration and being
a dependable teammate. That's what you will question. And I
don't think anything that he said during Tarik Hill's podcast
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would dispel anything about him being a horrible teammate, malcontent,
a diva. I just don't think and and and none
of it justify why he would leave the field the
way that he did. Like you created a scene after
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they told you some oh y'all calling me crazy? Like okay,
so what is it like? You're you're going for crazy
because they called you crazy? You want to see crazy,
I'm gonna be crazy. But I think that the biggest
point here that that has been made, and I think
you made it earlier, is where's the self accountability?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's like his his lack of self awareness is mesmerizing.
I'm not saying this to be funny. I admire it
like I wish I had that. I wish I wish
every time I made a mistake I could I could
find something within me and buy into No. No, that
wasn't your fault, that was their fault. It was somebody
else's fault. You did everything exactly the way you should have.
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It was all them. Like I wish I had that
in me.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And he through had his entire career that's been the approach.
Zero accountability, no self awareness, everybody else's fault. He did
also talk about having to take toward all he called
it Batman.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Fuel, So I know, I know, Uh, he was accurate.
At least he was accurate all one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So yeah, so the Batman fuel is is the the
factual statement of everything that Antonio Brown said in that podcast, not.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Just its just it. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's said that you could have the type of career
that he had and be where he is now, and
it's it's a joke, it's comedic relief, or it's the
opposite end of the spectrum. It's just very very concerning,
Like you could either look at it and me, I
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tend to look at it from the standpoint of he
shows all of the behavioral traits and the tendencies of
someone who could hurt themselves, who could could potentially do
something to end their own life, Like those are the
things you see him to me exercising, and that that
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is horribly concerning because again, for him to be that disconnected,
for him to kind of speak the way that he's speaking,
I don't I don't find that to be intelligence at play.
I find it to be someone who is who is
searching for for seeking attention, and he's doing things because
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it's almost like everything is spiraling out of control and
it's spiraling so fast that you can't you just you
can't handle it. And and then you'll sit back and
we'll look back on all of these interviews and will say,
you can clearly hear that he needed help. You could
clearly hear that he was was not in a good space.
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And and to me, that's what's most concerning. And when
you look at it from the opposite end of it
makes his career seem like like it's like it's a joke,
like how's this guy taken seriously? It just it just
seems to me, for as brilliant as a career as
he had, for him to be where he's at right now,
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something has to be wrong. Something is not right. And
that doesn't mean being brilliant at playing football means that
you're you're a dope person. There's been people that aren't good,
people that have had brilliant football careers. But just hearing
the way that he speaks and hearing the things that
he says, I don't know, man, it just sounds it
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sounds as though there is a mental health element to
this that I hope somebody is. And if I'm wrong,
then let me be wrong. Because professionals, professionals said.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That he's good. This is just who he is.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I'd rather hear that than to not hear that at all.
And then eventually something bad happens and it's like, man,
we were saying that all alone.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
At some point, though, you can try, and I think
multiple times in his career people have tried to help
step in, guide him, you know, have his back. I
mean a bunch of times. Look, I would love to know.
I don't think Mike Tomla would ever talk about this,
But I would love to know how much of a
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pain in the ass he was to deal with in Pittsburgh,
because they did a damn good job keeping it under
wraps until they couldn't do it anymore. And it was like,
all right, guys showed up in a mink coat on
the sideline and just left at halftime. And then gets
you know, doesn't want to play for Buffalo. They tried
to pull off a trade, doesn't want to play for Buffalo,
goes to the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That whole thing.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Was a mess, the cryo chamber, it played out on
hard knocks. It was great for HBO. Then he leaves there,
you know, the Patriots get him. He plays well in
his one game, then there's you know, an accusation against
him for you know, sexual battery or assault, and so
they have to cut him and.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Then he go.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
There's just there's been so many times where people have
tried to step in and have his back that at
some point you either have to help yourself or it
just is what it is. And I think people are
at the point they were like, dude, he's going to
do what he does and there's nothing we can really.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Do that Sometimes that's how it plays out. Sometimes that's
how it plays out. I'm hoping and wishing the best
for him, honestly, if it is something that is related
to mental health, But if it's not mental.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Health related and this is just how he's.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
He's handling things, then you know, it's just kind of like, well,
maybe he's trying to be as outrageous as he can
possibly be to continue to keep the tension on him
and keep a spotlight of sorts on him and.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
What he's doing.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And we all know that influence in these days and
age leads to monetization, and if he can continue to
have people, you know, paying attention to his antics, he
can use that to his advantage to monetize himself.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Bidding it booming. I mean, if bidding it.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Booming in that regard, then I guess more power to them.
But if that's if these are the things that you
have to resort to in order to be able to
have bidden it booming, then I guess to each his own.
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You In or You Out, and it'll be yours here
from the tirak dot com studio. So we were talking
to obviously, the Antonio Brown stuff is out there, him
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staking his claim on Tyreek Hill's podcast as to what
went wrong with Tom Brady and the Bucks and you
know why he walked off the field the way that
he did, so on and so forth, and we were discussing, Look,
Antonio Brown's got Hall of Fame credentials. This is a
guy you look at and go if things would have
just ended smoothly, Hall of famer, not even thirty five
years old. Career's gone full blown disaster. Arena team's a disaster.
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They're they're now out of the league. Like everything he
touches has turned a crap over the past couple of years.
And then the conversation turns to another wide receiver and
one that is not in the Hall of Fame either,
one that didn't have all the off field issues but
might have himself acclaim for being a Hall of Famer,
and that would be Rod Smith, the former Broncos wide receiver.
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He was speaking with Chris Thomason of the Denver Gazette
about his Hall of Fame kandisity candidacy, and said the following,
I feel I'm deserving, but I don't get to vote.
We had a thousand yard rusher every year I was
there except for one. You've got to look at my
complete body of work during my era. We won more
games than just about anybody. At the end of the day,
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what I cared about more than anything was winning. And
they can't take the Super Bowls away from me.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
For the record, Rod Smith eight hundred and forty nine
catches over eleven thousand yards, sixty eight touchdowns, and the
two Super Bowls. So he's a finalist for the Hall
of Fame. He's not gotten in yet. To his point,
you know, he doesn't get a vote. He feels like
he's got the resume, but he doesn't have the vote.
And then when he points to they were a run
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first offense, the fact that he was able to have
the production that he had in that offense on Super
Bowl winning teams, it feels like Rod Smith should be
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
All right.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
So that's a lot there, Okay. And here's the reason
why I'm gonna say it's a lot, because you look
at Shannon Sharp, who were who was on those same teams?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Four time first team All Pro, was a one time
second team All Pro, eight time Pro bowler, won the
Super Bowl three times?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You look at Rod Smith two times Super Bowl champ,
never been a first team All Pro, second team All
Pro twice, went to the Pro Bowl three times. I
I don't know that those are I know he has
a nice stat line on some of the things that
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he's done. I think that it's a hard that's a
hard one. That could be a long shot because he didn't.
While his stat line is good, his personal his personal
personal accomplishments might make it difficult. Not ever being a
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first team All Pro may make it difficult. I would
tend to think that if you're an All Pro first
team once or twice at least two times, you're in
the conversation. If you're a Pro bowler four to five times,
with that that first team All Pro at least two times,
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I think I think you with his statistics, you have
to think that he is worthy of getting a Hall
of Fame bid at some point in time.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So he's got three Pro Bowls on his resume, now,
I mean for what it's worth in my opinion, I mean,
if you got three Pro Bowls, like, it almost doesn't
even count. Three Pro Bowls is like nothing in my opinion.
So anybody in the NFL that's ever that's ever gotten
three Pro Bowls, I mean, I don't even think it
counts personally.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
So look at look at Brian Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You see what I'm doing there, by the way, see
throwing some shade at you because you had three Pro Bowls.
See what I'm doing there? I mean trying to knee
in the nuts on a Monday morning.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's all right, But I kind of was agreeing with
you. You're like at that that peak, you're you're you're at
that like you're you're you're almost at that point of
where you have to go beyond that that that third
Pro Bowl, and you gotta knock down at least two
to three more before it really feels like it's Hall
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of Fame worthy.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Three Pro Bowls. I don't like.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Look, and this isn't the Pro Bowl nowadays where it's like,
all right, whoever just is willing to say, yes, we'll
send you to Vegas. Just hope you're not in an
elevator with Alvin Kamara. Like that's that's all we're hoping
for nowadays when it comes to the Pro Bowl. But
like back in it man Pro Bowls, back when you
guys were going, when it was a real Pro Bowl
and you go to Honolulu, that was a real Pro Bowl,
Like that was an honor, that was an achievement.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
So to make to get nominated and to be a
first a first entry pro bowler was the thing when
I was in the league, Like what see what bothers me?
This is what really bothers me. Every time I went
to the Pro Bowl, I was a starter. They called
it starters, is what it was. I was a starter
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voted into the Pro Bowl. You had starters, and then
you had alternates. What I hate is when I see
somebody in the statistical category of being a.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Pro bowler eight Pro bowls.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Right, but they were like an alternate seven times, Like
that's not you're you're not more of a pro bowler
than the starter. You're you're an alternate, and alternate means
you were good, you just weren't as good as the
guy that went in front of you. Now some will
argue everybody talks about their snubs and this, that and
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the other and all that. I get it, But the
bottom line is back then, it was you voted starters.
Starters was like being an All Pro. You're like first team.
Alternates were at first teamers. The people that got voted
in didn't didn't want to play or couldn't play because they,
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you know, were still in the playoffs or in the
Super Bowl or whatever. That was how it was interpreted
back then. Like I have three real Pro Bowl bids,
not alternate. I don't have not one alternate Pro Bowl bid.
I was not a I was called in to play
in the Pro Bowl because er Lacker couldn't couldn't play
like I was a starter. And so to me sometimes
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I feel like that should be that should be taken
into consideration as well.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So Rod Smith got those two second team All pros.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And I don't know if Rod Smith was an alternate
Pro bowler, you see what I'm saying. So if Rod
was an alternate Pro bowler, that's probably being taken into
consideration by those who are voting.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
By the way, here was the company he kept. So
I'm just going for one year. Back in two thousand
and we talked about, you know, the Buffalo Bills maybe
just having bad timing. So here was the So Rod
Smith in the year two thousand had one hundred catches
and over sixteen hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's a great year. A year on a Super Bowl
caliber team. Hell of a year.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And wide receivers that year that he was competing against
were Randy Materrell Owens, and Marvin Harris. So what were
their numbers better than it is because they were all
they were first team All pros or also Pro Bowlers. So,
like I think Rod Smith's point is if you just
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add some context and some nuance to the discussion and
instead of just going it's all about the numbers, the
discussion has got to carry on to the Denver Broncos.
On multiple Super Bowl champion teams, he was their best
wide receiver. Truth, and he had over a thousand yards
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receiving like eight times in his NFL career. Like the
touchdowns you know aren't out there. I mean he had
under seventy. But the fact of the matter is when
you're the best wide receiver at a position with John
Elway and Shannon Sharp was on that team and Terrell
Davis were on that team. Those guys are Hall of famers.
It I agree with him. I kind of see his gard.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
He struggled to get in. Yeah, there was a struggle
for him to get in. I just don't if it
was a struggle for Terrell Davis to get in.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Do you think that was longevity? Yes, yeah, Like I
think Rod Smith played over a decade in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Okay, So I look at it and I go I
with no first team All Pro bids, So you're saying
you belong in the Hall of Fame with no first
team All Pro bids.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
If you look at the totality of his career, I
would be okay with that.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know what's interesting about that. If you pull up
a player bout the name of Carlos Dansby and you
look at Carlos Dansby's statistical categories across the main categories
of stats, and you compare them to Ray Lewis and
London Fletcher, He's tremendously comparable. And I don't think he
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played in one Pro Bowl. I don't think he was
selected to one Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean, it's popularity contest.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So in the end, in the end, I think there
are guys that have the accolades to to not be
to not be I guess, selected to Pro Bowl bids
or being All pros because you can only select so many,
but yet had the type of resume that would, you know,
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call for them to be in the Hall of Fame.
But I don't know how feasible that is. I don't
know if you've I don't know, like we would have
to look that up, like how many how many Hall
of Famers that didn't make a Pro Bowl or we're
never a first team All Pro? How many are in
the PROBO or how many are in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, I think so if you were vote. So basically
what you're saying right now, lebar And I'm not trying
to put words in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This is the last thing I wanted to put anything
in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to toer
anybody in a direction that would cause any problems on
this show because it's the last thing we want to do.
But what you are saying is that Rod Smith was
a bust is that what you're saying, Well, people like
me were bus Okay, So I mean it could be perceived,
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it could be perceived that I don't When was he drafted?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Rod Smith? Yeah? When was he drafted? A long time ago?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think I think ninety I want to say, I'm
gonna tell you right now, ninety five.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I would tell you right he went undrafted, so he's
not a bust. Ninety four Yeah, I know. Listen, he
went undrafted, so he's not a bus. But he's a
success story. I went number two overall in the draft.
But you don't think I'm a bus. You don't think
he's a Hall of Famer Rod Smith.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
If I'm being honest, my aunt, No, jeez, I support
you Rod for what it's worth.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean I didn't. You didn't ask me do I
support Rod? I think Rod is a dope and if
there wouldn't be a better dude to like honor that way,
Like he's a dope dude. But if you're asking me
based off of the criteria of what I've seen and
how people have gotten in or how they haven't gotten in,
I would probably say he's not going to get in.
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about it. Hall of Famer. By the way, do you
think Rod Smith's a Hall of Famer? Uh No, best
wide receiver on a Super Bowl team back to back years.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, he's. I mean, you know, he's got over eleven
thousand yards receiving. Look, you asked me, you know what
I mean, say what he's doing right here.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Here's the thing with me in the Hall of Fames.
All right, this is just me. If you if you
ask me and I don't immediately answer, helly s not
a Hall of Famer. That's that's for me. I think
the Hall of Fame's frankly got a lot of people
who had great careers. But to me, I think the
Hall of fame should be the best of the best.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Here we go, Here we go. Who's maybe Antonio Brown? Yeah? No,
all right, who's the Who's the Hall of Famer that
you're most outraged by that he's a Hall of Famer?
Oh boy?
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Some say Michael.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Stroan, Probably probably Joe Namath ooh wow.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Icon Yeah, impactful culturally that stats, that's where the argument
because he's got like fifty more interceptions and touchdowns in
his career. I think that's where the the argument people
use to kind of groove in is, well, can you
tell the story of the NFL without this person?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's like, okay, well.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He's never been a first team All Pro and only
went to one Pro Bowl.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
I mean, like I said, in the history of pro football,
he definitely has like a chapter there, right, Yeah, I
mean for leading the first you know, AFL team about
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
AFL sounds the fridge if we're having that comp that's.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
The AFL count. I mean, because that the AFL counts.
He is a four time All Star, h first first
team All AFL, Rookie of the Year, three time second
team if AFL, if AFL counts, yes, if it's just NFL,
(29:43):
that's highway robbery.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
What about Kurt Warner, You think he deserves to be
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Well, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That one's a close one. That's a good one. I
go back and forth on that.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Because the separation for him is that he took multiple
teams to the super Bowl, but he only won one
of them.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Only one one.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He was a two times. Say he was a two
he was a two time NFL m v P.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, that's two time first Team All Pro, four time
Pro Bowl, two time NFL passing touchdowns leader, three time
NFL completion percentage leader.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Ready, Now, that's a hard one. He's going to go though,
he definitely he's going to go.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
I agree he'll definitely get.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Philip Rivers was a better quarterback, and Eli Manning will
be the guy that gets in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Because I wouldn't I wouldn't disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I wouldn't disagree that because I think about his name.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
He's got a lot going for him playing in New York,
got a lot of things going forward.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
And the thing about Eli Manning is his only playoff
wins were during those Super Bowl runs. Other than that,
he never won another playoff.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Gamey, Matt, can you let Eddie do his shop?
Speaker 10 (30:50):
Here?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Eddie's ready to do his Eddie, are you ready to do?
Come on? Let's do your ready? Come on, this is
your time. Let's go.
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The Astros beat the Dodgers six to five in ten
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a full breakdown on the disaster that is Antonio Brown,
a Trent Dilfer in the news. He's not happy about
some things when it comes to recruiting in college football,
which feels like that'll probably.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Make the rounds at some point later on today.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Very very realistic approach from Trent Dilford to think that
none of his players are going to have any coaches
or anybody else in their dmsor or text messages or
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for a Tuesday edition of this show. But right now
we close up shop like we normally do with a
little something called this.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Two pros and a cup of show what they're out?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Ethan Miller is in for Lee to lap because we
have no idea where Lee's at.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I mean, he who knows.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
He may be drinking, he may be uh, you know,
passed out with Todd somewhere.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Point is Ethan's in. Lee's out. Lee will be back tomorrow, Ethan,
what have we got today for this edition?
Speaker 9 (35:21):
All right?
Speaker 10 (35:23):
If you guys had to supposedly the surfing right now
is the best in It's in Los Angeles like this
part of the year. If your buddies hit you up
and they were like, would you want to go to
Malibu right now to go surfing?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
At six am? It's like the thing to do?
Speaker 9 (35:37):
Would you do it?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I'm out, No thanks. I would boogiy board. Yeah, I'd
be in the boogie.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Board, like on the on the edge of the shore.
Like no, I'd be in them same waves they're in,
just boogie board. I wouldn't even do that. I would.
I had an accident on a boogie board one time.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I put my my my wet suit on. I go
full wet suit because the water out here is very
very cold. Uh yeah, put my flippers on and be
out that bad boy.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, boogie boarding.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Summer before my senior I think it was summer before
my senior year. Might have been junior year at high school.
We were at Zooma I want to say it was
like Zooma seven. It was like one of those beaches
out here in southern California, and we were boogie boarding
and the wave was the waves were a little choppy
and they were coming started to come in a little strong.
And the thing about some of the beaches out here
(36:33):
is they can have a lot of rocks, like a
lot of graund and it'll chew your feet up, yeah,
and your back, yes, and so your chest. I was,
I was, I was getting out of the water and
the water was picking up, and you know, it was
starting to really hit pretty hard. And as I'm walking
up out of the water, I kind of stumbled a
little bit. And as I stumble, I sort of turned
(36:53):
back around and I had the boogie board across my
body almost like a shield, and wave hit the board
and just knocked me square in my ass and drugged
me across the rocks.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
On my back. Ye, you don't know how to boogie board,
So yeah, I don't clearly.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
So that's the whole point of boogie boarding, is the
wave hits you and you ride the wave.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
No, but I had gotten out of the water and
as I turned around, I didn't realize there was a
wave coming right at me because I had finished up
and it just knocked me down.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, I'll say I got hit by a wave a
few years back when we were living in Manhattan Beach,
and I was laughing because it kind of it knocked
me off balance. I was laughing, and then the sand
going back in pulled me down. Oh yeah, I didn't
go down, yes, And then I'm trying to get up,
and another wave came.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Yeah, it knocked me back down, and then I was
rolling because then the sand pulled me back again. My
kids were laughing at me. So that wasn't fun because
I really could not get up. So when I got.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Up, I'm falling and I jutted it up. When I
got up, I had blood all over my back because
I got drug on the rocks, and and so somebody
was asking me, and I was I was already pissed
off just at the whole situation. You know, my back
was all cut up and somebody said to me. They're like, God,
what what happened out there? I was like, I got
attacked by a bunch of dolphins just like threw it,
(38:16):
you know, off the cuff, not a shark though, dolphin.
For years, people believe that story, like they really thought
that was a true story. I had people that were
just like seniors coming up to me and say, Hey,
were you the guy who got attacked by that dolphins?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
What else we got we got?
Speaker 8 (38:32):
But the point, the point is people, Oh, he's the
guy that's that's right there, he survived the dolphin attack.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
The point is people are morons, and I'm out on
going to the ocean at six. All right, come on,
I'm all right.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
I got another scenario. You can't bring anything. It's two
a m all you got is your clothes in you. Uh,
you go to skid Row to play in a rock
paper scissors tournament to win two hundred and fifty grand,
(39:05):
you enter, you out?
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I mean I'd be in. I don't know about LeVar.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I just like LeVar, let's say three, let's just say
ten million.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Is it is it open air? Like as you saying
skate row? Like ro yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 10 (39:21):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Is there open air, like is.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It under a bridge or is it and sleeping bags?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Do you have to be in a tent? Like? What? What?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Where?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Is this taking place? On skid row? On the street?
On the street, Yeah, middle of it. I'm going I'm in.
Who are you playing? Skate row? Skate row contestants?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why are we on skate row? Yeah? It's skid row contestants.
Now what does it matter what you're able to bring?
Speaker 8 (39:45):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
What else are you bringing?
Speaker 10 (39:46):
Other?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Play?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
No weapons? No weapon? Why would you need a weapon?
It's skid row, all right.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I mean you're hanging out with people getting twazzled out
on the side of a street.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
What does that mean? Like twazzled out? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Like drugged up? Oh yeah, twazled I never heard that.
Sunday And you know a lot of spoons with Burnmo
for ten million dollars, you said, yeah, I'm in. Yeah,
oh yeah, I'm gonna compete for that ten million dollars
paper rocks, I'm gonna compete for it.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I do it for twenty bucks. I grew up on
skid row.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
I mean, chances are they they might not be in
the proper right mind. And even if I lost that one,
because I'm gonna tell them I won and they might
go for it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
By the way. You know what, you know what's mild.
I'm gonna work my way all the way to that ten.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Million, like you were in San Diego, right, Yes, man,
I didn't realize San Diego had some rough parts of
the town.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
If you're cruising down San Diego all of a sudden
you hang a rider or left like I came out
of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Oh yeah, isn't that everywhere?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Yeah, it's like every anywhere you go, every tourist spots,
and then you had the real spots.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Like even like Honolulu. Yes, there's a really rough part
of Honolulu.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Rough parts, yes, that you uh part, like one part
you're thinking the beaches.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
You're thinking, I think some guy robbed at seven eleven
with a samurai sword in Honolulu.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Not long was that Wesley Snyder's no stop, I'm in
for the ten million. Yeah, I'm out of this show.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
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earlier in the show about Antonio Brown. He decided to
go on Tyreek Hill's podcast, which, by the way, we
still got to get to the bottom of what happened
with Tyreek Hill. Did he or did he not tell
(01:28):
somebody I could buy you and the boat at the
marina after you slap somebody like there's conflicting reports.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
On all that.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
My I mean, if he never said that, then I
totally exposed myself for no reason right when I gave
my example.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm glad you finished that thought just now. Yeah, so
goh it because when you said.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
If you would have just let it sit right there, yeah,
people would have been asking several questions like, what do
you mean you exposed yourself?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Yeah, so at.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Least we are about ab Yes, that is true and
nothing is of the realm of possibility.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
That is fair.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Can we hear the Antonio Brown yet again? For those
that have missed it, this is Antonio Brown's latest claim
on the Tyreek Hill podcast about what went wrong with
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He talked about Tom Brady Alex
Carrero giving him one hundred thousand dollars to work out
his body, him being banged up, him walking out on
the team because during the Jets game, this was Antonio
(02:27):
brown side of the.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Story about to play the Jets and this week, I'm
really hurt. Like so I'm like taking pictures to the
coach like, coach, man, we're gonna win the Super Bowl. Man,
I think I need to just take these last two
weeks at least, like recover up so I could give
you my best when we to the time that mean
the most. We're here to win the super Bowl. So
the coach like, hey man, we ain't resting. So Tom
called me like, yo, this week man, the Jets, man,
(02:48):
they sweet man, I'm gonna hit you with light ten
to twelve. So he gonna gas me up, so you
know me, that's all I need to hear, like, Yo,
you're gonna throw me the ball, just like me saying
like I got a new crib. These guys don't even
So now come playing the game. I'm hurt, like I'm
in my zone, super hurt, and it's like, YO, might
hurt myself more and they're not really trying to put
me in good position, like I'm not here to hurt myself.
(03:10):
I'm here to help you guys win. I mean, getting
the ball, help you move the chains, get in the zone.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
So right now we had a different time.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Right now, you guys not trying to see none of that.
You guys are mixing me with like he don't want
to work with me. I'm paying them. You don't want
to throw me the ball, and you're making me like
I'm crazy. So it's like I'm crazy.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Call you nobody here.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
So again that's Antonio Brown on the Tyreekhill Podcast.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Can we go back to the beginning of the podcast
and just play the first part, like, now, listen to
it right now, think to yourself, I sent texts saying
that I'm hurt during the week. Now he's talking about
being hurt. But then he says he talks to Tom
(03:52):
Brady and once Tom Brady gassed, he might be like,
all right, I'm gonna play check just listen, just listen
first part.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
To play the Jets and this week I'm really hurt.
Like so I'm like taking pictures to the coach, like
coach Man, we're gonna win the Super Bowl. Man, I
think I need to just take these last two weeks
at least like recover up so I could give you
my best when we to the time that me and
the most that we're here to win the Super Bowl.
So the coach like, hey, man, we ain't resting. So
Tom called me like, yo this week man. The Jets man,
(04:20):
they sweet man, I'm gonna hit you with like ten
to twelve. So he gonna gass me up. So you
know me, that's all I need to hear, like, Yo,
you're gonna throw me the ball, just like me saying
like I got a new crib.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Cut off right there. If you're gonna throw me the ball,
I'm good to go. But if you ain't gonna throw
me the ball, I need to rest up. Yeah, I'm hurt.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I can't play. Give me two.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Weeks, and I think, but if you're gonna throw me
ten balls, I get out there and play.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I think there were incentives also in this contract
that it would have behooved him to go out there
and play and be productive.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And if you're hurt, if you're hurt to the point
of where you got to ask not to play for
two weeks, that's not a conversation that first of all
takes place via text. That's first and foremost. That's one thing.
But then secondly, if you're texting your coach and you're
saying that, then your medical staff isn't doing what they
(05:16):
need to do, right. I mean, that's gotta be one
of the conclusions if your player is saying, yeah, I
need two weeks. I feel this way, I'm hurt, Like
I'm hurt. I'm not out here to be hurt. But
if you want to throw me the ball ten times
like I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna play, it
just sounds a little It sounds a little curious to me.
(05:36):
It sounds a little off to me. It's hard to
decipher where the truth is and what it is that
he's saying. And again, when you're talking about receivers, the
one thing that you can say for certain you know
about receivers is they want the ball, and when they're
not getting the ball, they're upset. That's through that's historically
(05:59):
how receivers are. And not all of them are like that,
but a lot of them that's how they're wired because
that's just what it's it's they want the ball. You
can never give it. What was Keishawn's book called get
Me the damn Ball?
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Like that?
Speaker 4 (06:15):
You can never give a receiver the ball too many times.
So I just think that he was conflicted with wanting.
He probably truly wanted to. Nobody's ever going to question
that man's work ethic, oh no, And you're not going
to question his heart and his will to compete. But
(06:35):
what you will question is is his his way of
going about communicating, his way of handling frustration and being
a dependable teammate. That's what you will question. And I
don't think anything that he said during Tarik Hill's podcast
(06:56):
would dispel anything about him being a horrible teammate, malcontent,
a diva. I just don't think and and and none
of it justify why he would leave the field the
way that he did. Like you created a scene after
(07:16):
they told you some oh y'all calling me crazy? Like okay,
so what is it like? You're you're going for crazy
because they called you crazy? You want to see crazy,
I'm gonna be crazy. But I think that the biggest
point here that that has been made, and I think
you made it earlier, is where's the self accountability?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
It's like his his lack of self awareness is mesmerizing.
I'm not saying this to be funny. I admire it
like I wish I had that. I wish I wish
every time I made a mistake I could I could
find something within me and buy into No. No, that
wasn't your fault, that was their fault. It was somebody
else's fault. You did everything exactly the way you should have.
(07:57):
It was all them. Like I wish I had that
in me.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I just don't.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And he through had his entire career that's been the approach.
Zero accountability, no self awareness, everybody else's fault. He did
also talk about having to take toward all he called
it Batman.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Fuel, So I know, I know, Uh, he was accurate.
At least he was accurate all one thing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So yeah, so the Batman fuel is is the the
factual statement of everything that Antonio Brown said in that podcast, not.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Just its just it. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's said that you could have the type of career
that he had and be where he is now, and
it's it's a joke, it's comedic relief, or it's the
opposite end of the spectrum. It's just very very concerning,
Like you could either look at it and me, I
(08:57):
tend to look at it from the standpoint of he
shows all of the behavioral traits and the tendencies of
someone who could hurt themselves, who could could potentially do
something to end their own life, Like those are the
things you see him to me exercising, and that that
(09:21):
is horribly concerning because again, for him to be that disconnected,
for him to kind of speak the way that he's speaking,
I don't I don't find that to be intelligence at play.
I find it to be someone who is who is
searching for for seeking attention, and he's doing things because
(09:46):
it's almost like everything is spiraling out of control and
it's spiraling so fast that you can't you just you
can't handle it. And and then you'll sit back and
we'll look back on all of these interviews and will say,
you can clearly hear that he needed help. You could
clearly hear that he was was not in a good space.
(10:11):
And and to me, that's what's most concerning. And when
you look at it from the opposite end of it
makes his career seem like like it's like it's a joke,
like how's this guy taken seriously? It just it just
seems to me, for as brilliant as a career as
he had, for him to be where he's at right now,
(10:33):
something has to be wrong. Something is not right. And
that doesn't mean being brilliant at playing football means that
you're you're a dope person. There's been people that aren't good,
people that have had brilliant football careers. But just hearing
the way that he speaks and hearing the things that
he says, I don't know, man, it just sounds it
(10:59):
sounds as though there is a mental health element to
this that I hope somebody is. And if I'm wrong,
then let me be wrong. Because professionals, professionals said.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
That he's good. This is just who he is.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I'd rather hear that than to not hear that at all.
And then eventually something bad happens and it's like, man,
we were saying that all alone.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
At some point, though, you can try, and I think
multiple times in his career people have tried to help
step in, guide him, you know, have his back. I
mean a bunch of times. Look, I would love to know.
I don't think Mike Tomla would ever talk about this,
But I would love to know how much of a
(11:53):
pain in the ass he was to deal with in Pittsburgh,
because they did a damn good job keeping it under
wraps until they couldn't do it anymore. And it was like,
all right, guys showed up in a mink coat on
the sideline and just left at halftime. And then gets
you know, doesn't want to play for Buffalo. They tried
to pull off a trade, doesn't want to play for Buffalo,
goes to the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That whole thing.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Was a mess, the cryo chamber, it played out on
hard knocks. It was great for HBO. Then he leaves there,
you know, the Patriots get him. He plays well in
his one game, then there's you know, an accusation against
him for you know, sexual battery or assault, and so
they have to cut him and.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
Then he go.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
There's just there's been so many times where people have
tried to step in and have his back that at
some point you either have to help yourself or it
just is what it is. And I think people are
at the point they were like, dude, he's going to
do what he does and there's nothing we can really.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Do that Sometimes that's how it plays out. Sometimes that's
how it plays out. I'm hoping and wishing the best
for him, honestly, if it is something that is related
to mental health, But if it's not mental.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Health related and this is just how he's.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
He's handling things, then you know, it's just kind of like, well,
maybe he's trying to be as outrageous as he can
possibly be to continue to keep the tension on him
and keep a spotlight of sorts on him and.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
What he's doing.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
And we all know that influence in these days and
age leads to monetization, and if he can continue to
have people, you know, paying attention to his antics, he
can use that to his advantage to monetize himself.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Bidding it booming. I mean, if bidding it.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Booming in that regard, then I guess more power to them.
But if that's if these are the things that you
have to resort to in order to be able to
have bidden it booming, then I guess to each his own.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
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You In or You Out, and it'll be yours here
from the tirak dot com studio. So we were talking
to obviously, the Antonio Brown stuff is out there, him
(15:25):
staking his claim on Tyreek Hill's podcast as to what
went wrong with Tom Brady and the Bucks and you
know why he walked off the field the way that
he did, so on and so forth, and we were discussing, Look,
Antonio Brown's got Hall of Fame credentials. This is a
guy you look at and go if things would have
just ended smoothly, Hall of famer, not even thirty five
years old. Career's gone full blown disaster. Arena team's a disaster.
(15:51):
They're they're now out of the league. Like everything he
touches has turned a crap over the past couple of years.
And then the conversation turns to another wide receiver and
one that is not in the Hall of Fame either,
one that didn't have all the off field issues but
might have himself acclaim for being a Hall of Famer,
and that would be Rod Smith, the former Broncos wide receiver.
(16:13):
He was speaking with Chris Thomason of the Denver Gazette
about his Hall of Fame kandisity candidacy, and said the following,
I feel I'm deserving, but I don't get to vote.
We had a thousand yard rusher every year I was
there except for one. You've got to look at my
complete body of work during my era. We won more
games than just about anybody. At the end of the day,
(16:34):
what I cared about more than anything was winning. And
they can't take the Super Bowls away from me.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
For the record, Rod Smith eight hundred and forty nine
catches over eleven thousand yards, sixty eight touchdowns, and the
two Super Bowls. So he's a finalist for the Hall
of Fame. He's not gotten in yet. To his point,
you know, he doesn't get a vote. He feels like
he's got the resume, but he doesn't have the vote.
And then when he points to they were a run
(17:01):
first offense, the fact that he was able to have
the production that he had in that offense on Super
Bowl winning teams, it feels like Rod Smith should be
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
All right.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
So that's a lot there, Okay. And here's the reason
why I'm gonna say it's a lot, because you look
at Shannon Sharp, who were who was on those same teams?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
All right? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Four time first team All Pro, was a one time
second team All Pro, eight time Pro bowler, won the
Super Bowl three times?
Speaker 3 (17:38):
All right?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
You look at Rod Smith two times Super Bowl champ,
never been a first team All Pro, second team All
Pro twice, went to the Pro Bowl three times. I
I don't know that those are I know he has
a nice stat line on some of the things that
(18:02):
he's done. I think that it's a hard that's a
hard one. That could be a long shot because he didn't.
While his stat line is good, his personal his personal
personal accomplishments might make it difficult. Not ever being a
(18:26):
first team All Pro may make it difficult. I would
tend to think that if you're an All Pro first
team once or twice at least two times, you're in
the conversation. If you're a Pro bowler four to five times,
with that that first team All Pro at least two times,
(18:52):
I think I think you with his statistics, you have
to think that he is worthy of getting a Hall
of Fame bid at some point in time.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
So he's got three Pro Bowls on his resume, now,
I mean for what it's worth in my opinion, I mean,
if you got three Pro Bowls, like, it almost doesn't
even count. Three Pro Bowls is like nothing in my opinion.
So anybody in the NFL that's ever that's ever gotten
three Pro Bowls, I mean, I don't even think it
counts personally.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
So look at look at Brian Mitchell.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
You see what I'm doing there, by the way, see
throwing some shade at you because you had three Pro Bowls.
See what I'm doing there? I mean trying to knee
in the nuts on a Monday morning.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
That's all right, But I kind of was agreeing with
you. You're like at that that peak, you're you're you're at
that like you're you're you're almost at that point of
where you have to go beyond that that that third
Pro Bowl, and you gotta knock down at least two
to three more before it really feels like it's Hall
(19:59):
of Fame worthy.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Three Pro Bowls. I don't like.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Look, and this isn't the Pro Bowl nowadays where it's like,
all right, whoever just is willing to say, yes, we'll
send you to Vegas. Just hope you're not in an
elevator with Alvin Kamara. Like that's that's all we're hoping
for nowadays when it comes to the Pro Bowl. But
like back in it man Pro Bowls, back when you
guys were going, when it was a real Pro Bowl
and you go to Honolulu, that was a real Pro Bowl,
Like that was an honor, that was an achievement.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
So to make to get nominated and to be a
first a first entry pro bowler was the thing when
I was in the league, Like what see what bothers me?
This is what really bothers me. Every time I went
to the Pro Bowl, I was a starter. They called
it starters, is what it was. I was a starter
(20:43):
voted into the Pro Bowl. You had starters, and then
you had alternates. What I hate is when I see
somebody in the statistical category of being a.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Pro bowler eight Pro bowls.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Right, but they were like an alternate seven times, Like
that's not you're you're not more of a pro bowler
than the starter. You're you're an alternate, and alternate means
you were good, you just weren't as good as the
guy that went in front of you. Now some will
argue everybody talks about their snubs and this, that and
(21:22):
the other and all that. I get it, But the
bottom line is back then, it was you voted starters.
Starters was like being an All Pro. You're like first team.
Alternates were at first teamers. The people that got voted
in didn't didn't want to play or couldn't play because they,
(21:44):
you know, were still in the playoffs or in the
Super Bowl or whatever. That was how it was interpreted
back then. Like I have three real Pro Bowl bids,
not alternate. I don't have not one alternate Pro Bowl bid.
I was not a I was called in to play
in the Pro Bowl because er Lacker couldn't couldn't play
like I was a starter. And so to me sometimes
(22:07):
I feel like that should be that should be taken
into consideration as well.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So Rod Smith got those two second team All pros.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
And I don't know if Rod Smith was an alternate
Pro bowler, you see what I'm saying. So if Rod
was an alternate Pro bowler, that's probably being taken into
consideration by those who are voting.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
By the way, here was the company he kept. So
I'm just going for one year. Back in two thousand
and we talked about, you know, the Buffalo Bills maybe
just having bad timing. So here was the So Rod
Smith in the year two thousand had one hundred catches
and over sixteen hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
That's a great year. A year on a Super Bowl
caliber team. Hell of a year.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
And wide receivers that year that he was competing against
were Randy Materrell Owens, and Marvin Harris. So what were
their numbers better than it is because they were all
they were first team All pros or also Pro Bowlers. So,
like I think Rod Smith's point is if you just
(23:17):
add some context and some nuance to the discussion and
instead of just going it's all about the numbers, the
discussion has got to carry on to the Denver Broncos.
On multiple Super Bowl champion teams, he was their best
wide receiver. Truth, and he had over a thousand yards
(23:40):
receiving like eight times in his NFL career. Like the
touchdowns you know aren't out there. I mean he had
under seventy. But the fact of the matter is when
you're the best wide receiver at a position with John
Elway and Shannon Sharp was on that team and Terrell
Davis were on that team. Those guys are Hall of famers.
It I agree with him. I kind of see his gard.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
He struggled to get in. Yeah, there was a struggle
for him to get in. I just don't if it
was a struggle for Terrell Davis to get in.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Do you think that was longevity? Yes, yeah, Like I
think Rod Smith played over a decade in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
Okay, So I look at it and I go I
with no first team All Pro bids, So you're saying
you belong in the Hall of Fame with no first
team All Pro bids.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
If you look at the totality of his career, I
would be okay with that.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
You know what's interesting about that. If you pull up
a player bout the name of Carlos Dansby and you
look at Carlos Dansby's statistical categories across the main categories
of stats, and you compare them to Ray Lewis and
London Fletcher, He's tremendously comparable. And I don't think he
(24:56):
played in one Pro Bowl. I don't think he was
selected to one Pro Bowl.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I mean, it's popularity contest.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
So in the end, in the end, I think there
are guys that have the accolades to to not be
to not be I guess, selected to Pro Bowl bids
or being All pros because you can only select so many,
but yet had the type of resume that would, you know,
(25:26):
call for them to be in the Hall of Fame.
But I don't know how feasible that is. I don't
know if you've I don't know, like we would have
to look that up, like how many how many Hall
of Famers that didn't make a Pro Bowl or we're
never a first team All Pro? How many are in
the PROBO or how many are in the Pro Football
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Yeah, I think so if you were vote. So basically
what you're saying right now, lebar And I'm not trying
to put words in your mouth.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
This is the last thing I wanted to put anything
in my mouth.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Yeah, I'm not trying to I'm not trying to toer
anybody in a direction that would cause any problems on
this show because it's the last thing we want to do.
But what you are saying is that Rod Smith was
a bust is that what you're saying, Well, people like
me were bus Okay, So I mean it could be perceived,
(26:18):
it could be perceived that I don't When was he drafted?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Rod Smith? Yeah? When was he drafted? A long time ago?
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think I think ninety I want to say, I'm
gonna tell you right now, ninety five.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
I would tell you right he went undrafted, so he's
not a bust. Ninety four Yeah, I know. Listen, he
went undrafted, so he's not a bus. But he's a
success story. I went number two overall in the draft.
But you don't think I'm a bus. You don't think
he's a Hall of Famer Rod Smith.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
If I'm being honest, my aunt, No, jeez, I support
you Rod for what it's worth.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I mean I didn't. You didn't ask me do I
support Rod? I think Rod is a dope and if
there wouldn't be a better dude to like honor that way,
Like he's a dope dude. But if you're asking me
based off of the criteria of what I've seen and
how people have gotten in or how they haven't gotten in,
I would probably say he's not going to get in.
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(27:39):
about it. Hall of Famer. By the way, do you
think Rod Smith's a Hall of Famer? Uh No, best
wide receiver on a Super Bowl team back to back years.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Yeah, he's. I mean, you know, he's got over eleven
thousand yards receiving. Look, you asked me, you know what
I mean, say what he's doing right here.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
Here's the thing with me in the Hall of Fames.
All right, this is just me. If you if you
ask me and I don't immediately answer, helly s not
a Hall of Famer. That's that's for me. I think
the Hall of Fame's frankly got a lot of people
who had great careers. But to me, I think the
Hall of fame should be the best of the best.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Here we go, Here we go. Who's maybe Antonio Brown? Yeah? No,
all right, who's the Who's the Hall of Famer that
you're most outraged by that he's a Hall of Famer?
Oh boy?
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Some say Michael.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
Stroan, Probably probably Joe Namath ooh wow.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Icon Yeah, impactful culturally that stats, that's where the argument
because he's got like fifty more interceptions and touchdowns in
his career. I think that's where the the argument people
use to kind of groove in is, well, can you
tell the story of the NFL without this person?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
It's like, okay, well.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
He's never been a first team All Pro and only
went to one Pro Bowl.
Speaker 9 (29:08):
I mean, like I said, in the history of pro football,
he definitely has like a chapter there, right, Yeah, I
mean for leading the first you know, AFL team about
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
AFL sounds the fridge if we're having that comp that's.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
The AFL count. I mean, because that the AFL counts.
He is a four time All Star, h first first
team All AFL, Rookie of the Year, three time second
team if AFL, if AFL counts, yes, if it's just NFL,
(29:43):
that's highway robbery.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
What about Kurt Warner, You think he deserves to be
a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 9 (29:50):
Well, that's a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That one's a close one. That's a good one. I
go back and forth on that.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Because the separation for him is that he took multiple
teams to the super Bowl, but he only won one
of them.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
Only one one.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
He was a two times. Say he was a two
he was a two time NFL m v P.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, that's two time first Team All Pro, four time
Pro Bowl, two time NFL passing touchdowns leader, three time
NFL completion percentage leader.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Ready, Now, that's a hard one. He's going to go though,
he definitely he's going to go.
Speaker 9 (30:28):
I agree he'll definitely get.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Philip Rivers was a better quarterback, and Eli Manning will
be the guy that gets in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 9 (30:33):
Because I wouldn't I wouldn't disagree with that.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I wouldn't disagree that because I think about his name.
Speaker 9 (30:37):
He's got a lot going for him playing in New York,
got a lot of things going forward.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
And the thing about Eli Manning is his only playoff
wins were during those Super Bowl runs. Other than that,
he never won another playoff.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Gamey, Matt, can you let Eddie do his shop?
Speaker 10 (30:50):
Here?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Eddie's ready to do his Eddie, are you ready to do?
Come on? Let's do your ready? Come on, this is
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Speaker 3 (35:05):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Ethan Miller is in for Lee to lap because we
have no idea where Lee's at.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I mean, he who knows.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
He may be drinking, he may be uh, you know,
passed out with Todd somewhere.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Point is Ethan's in. Lee's out. Lee will be back tomorrow, Ethan,
what have we got today for this edition?
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Speaker 10 (35:23):
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At six am? It's like the thing to do?
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Would you do it?
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I'm out, No thanks. I would boogiy board. Yeah, I'd
be in the boogie.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Board, like on the on the edge of the shore.
Like no, I'd be in them same waves they're in,
just boogie board. I wouldn't even do that. I would.
I had an accident on a boogie board one time.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I put my my my wet suit on. I go
full wet suit because the water out here is very
very cold. Uh yeah, put my flippers on and be
out that bad boy.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Yeah, boogie boarding.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Summer before my senior I think it was summer before
my senior year. Might have been junior year at high school.
We were at Zooma I want to say it was
like Zooma seven. It was like one of those beaches
out here in southern California, and we were boogie boarding
and the wave was the waves were a little choppy
and they were coming started to come in a little strong.
And the thing about some of the beaches out here
(36:33):
is they can have a lot of rocks, like a
lot of graund and it'll chew your feet up, yeah,
and your back, yes, and so your chest. I was,
I was, I was getting out of the water and
the water was picking up, and you know, it was
starting to really hit pretty hard. And as I'm walking
up out of the water, I kind of stumbled a
little bit. And as I stumble, I sort of turned
(36:53):
back around and I had the boogie board across my
body almost like a shield, and wave hit the board
and just knocked me square in my ass and drugged
me across the rocks.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
On my back. Ye, you don't know how to boogie board,
So yeah, I don't clearly.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
So that's the whole point of boogie boarding, is the
wave hits you and you ride the wave.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
No, but I had gotten out of the water and
as I turned around, I didn't realize there was a
wave coming right at me because I had finished up
and it just knocked me down.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
Well, I'll say I got hit by a wave a
few years back when we were living in Manhattan Beach,
and I was laughing because it kind of it knocked
me off balance. I was laughing, and then the sand
going back in pulled me down. Oh yeah, I didn't
go down, yes, And then I'm trying to get up,
and another wave came.
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Yeah, it knocked me back down, and then I was
rolling because then the sand pulled me back again. My
kids were laughing at me. So that wasn't fun because
I really could not get up. So when I got.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
Up, I'm falling and I jutted it up. When I
got up, I had blood all over my back because
I got drug on the rocks, and and so somebody
was asking me, and I was I was already pissed
off just at the whole situation. You know, my back
was all cut up and somebody said to me. They're like, God,
what what happened out there? I was like, I got
attacked by a bunch of dolphins just like threw it,
(38:16):
you know, off the cuff, not a shark though, dolphin.
For years, people believe that story, like they really thought
that was a true story. I had people that were
just like seniors coming up to me and say, Hey,
were you the guy who got attacked by that dolphins?
Speaker 3 (38:29):
What else we got we got?
Speaker 8 (38:32):
But the point, the point is people, Oh, he's the
guy that's that's right there, he survived the dolphin attack.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
The point is people are morons, and I'm out on
going to the ocean at six. All right, come on,
I'm all right.
Speaker 10 (38:45):
I got another scenario. You can't bring anything. It's two
a m all you got is your clothes in you. Uh,
you go to skid Row to play in a rock
paper scissors tournament to win two hundred and fifty grand,
(39:05):
you enter, you out?
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I mean I'd be in. I don't know about LeVar.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
I just like LeVar, let's say three, let's just say
ten million.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Is it is it open air? Like as you saying
skate row? Like ro yeah, what do you mean?
Speaker 10 (39:21):
Like?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Is there open air, like is.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
It under a bridge or is it and sleeping bags?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Do you have to be in a tent? Like? What? What?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Where?
Speaker 3 (39:29):
Is this taking place? On skid row? On the street?
On the street, Yeah, middle of it. I'm going I'm in.
Who are you playing? Skate row? Skate row contestants?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Why are we on skate row? Yeah? It's skid row contestants.
Now what does it matter what you're able to bring?
Speaker 8 (39:45):
What?
Speaker 3 (39:45):
What else are you bringing?
Speaker 10 (39:46):
Other?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Play?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
No weapons? No weapon? Why would you need a weapon?
It's skid row, all right.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I mean you're hanging out with people getting twazzled out
on the side of a street.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
What does that mean? Like twazzled out? What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Like drugged up? Oh yeah, twazled I never heard that.
Sunday And you know a lot of spoons with Burnmo
for ten million dollars, you said, yeah, I'm in. Yeah,
oh yeah, I'm gonna compete for that ten million dollars
paper rocks, I'm gonna compete for it.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I do it for twenty bucks. I grew up on
skid row.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
I mean, chances are they they might not be in
the proper right mind. And even if I lost that one,
because I'm gonna tell them I won and they might
go for it.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
By the way. You know what, you know what's mild.
I'm gonna work my way all the way to that ten.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Million, like you were in San Diego, right, Yes, man,
I didn't realize San Diego had some rough parts of
the town.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
If you're cruising down San Diego all of a sudden
you hang a rider or left like I came out
of nowhere.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Oh yeah, isn't that everywhere?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Yeah, it's like every anywhere you go, every tourist spots,
and then you had the real spots.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Like even like Honolulu. Yes, there's a really rough part
of Honolulu.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Rough parts, yes, that you uh part, like one part
you're thinking the beaches.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
You're thinking, I think some guy robbed at seven eleven
with a samurai sword in Honolulu.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Not long was that Wesley Snyder's no stop, I'm in
for the ten million. Yeah, I'm out of this show.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
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