June 29, 2023 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, season long suspensions are expected to come down for a number of NFL players caught gambling. Yankees Pitcher Domingo German throws a perfect game but many people are suspicious following his history with sticky substances. Also, Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer sheds light on the gambling scandal, choice of matchups for international games and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox
on Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You ever seen somebody behave in a way that doesn't
make sense until later on you find out why they
were actually behaving in that way, You know, like you
hear this stuff all the time. Somebody finds out that
their better half is fooling around on them, and then
they start to think back and retrace the steps, and
they go, God, they were clues there the whole time.
(00:34):
I should have known there were clues there the whole time.
If I would have paid close enough attention, I could
have spotted those clues. I could have seen what was happening.
But unfortunately, too little, too late. And now I just
got to deal with the fact that somebody fooled around
on me with the neighbor, the neighbor's dog, you name it,
whatever their preference. That's what that went down. And that's
the way this thing works. So I say all that
(00:57):
to say this, We should have known something was coming
up in the NFL. Should have known all the signs
were there, sending members of the league to talk to
players about the dangers of gambling. Tom Brady doing a
video to send out to rookies coming into the league,
(01:20):
talking about how it's not worth it. You know, guys,
it's not worth it, you know, don't ruin your career
by gambling on the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
All the other.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Little things that have come out, you got coaches and
players saying, yeah, we just felt like a lot of
this stuff we weren't really all that educated on, you know,
kind of confused, kind kind of you know, trying to
figure this whole thing out, don't really have a clear
understanding as to what the rules are. And then Adam
Schefter drops this little gem yesterday courtesy of ESPN that
(01:51):
Isaiah Rodgers of the Colts, you know, the kick returner
slash defensive back who got popped for gambling. Well, him
and a handful of other players are expected to receive
season long suspensions for violating the NFL's gambling policy. Yeah,
we should have known something was coming up. Now we
knew about Isaiah Rodgers, all right, And I listen, I
(02:16):
backed Isaiah Rodgers on this show. Guy's a kick returner.
Have you seen what the league's doing to kick returners?
I don't blame him for trying to have some supplemental income.
What do you want me to do? Drive an uber
or lyft? No, he's looking around, going, hey, if I've
got some intel on some of these teams, I'm gonna
ahead and place a bet and try and make some
of this money back. The league's taken for me out
of my back pocket, in front pocket because they want
(02:36):
to ruin the kickoff. But then it's all these other players.
Albert Breer, who we're going to talk to later on
on this show. He is, he's said for a little
while now. Yet it feels like there's some other guys
that are gonna pop up here. It feels like there's
some other suspensions that are coming up. It feels like
this isn't just an isolated incident when it comes to
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Isaiah Rogers. And of course this is the same offseason.
You got members from the Lions like Jamison Williams, you
got a member of the Washington Commanders who got popped.
You got Calvin Ridley coming back, and he's talking about
all the all the dangers of gambling and why it's
not worth it and why we should have known there's
something else going on here, and something else was coming
(03:21):
up around the corner.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Should have known all the signs were there.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What I'm wondering is how big are the name's gonna
be to get popped and the names to get released,
And furthermore, how many of those names are we not
going to hear about?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Like I want to know?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like I always, I thought it was a little strange
that of all the people you would have doing a
tutorial or a video on what not to do when
it comes to sports betting, that it would be Tom Brady,
Like why would you.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Go so over the top?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Like to compare ones that I made was if you've
got a little fire on the stove, you don't bring
an airliner to drop fire retardant on the entire house.
You either turn the stove off, you fan it down
with a rolled up newspaper or magazine, or you bring
one of the house fire extinguishers out to have a
(04:21):
tanker drop a bunch of pink stuff all over the
house to put out a stove fire seems a bit drastic,
And it seemed like Tom Brady being brought in to
do some video to try and warn players about gambling
seemed a bit drastic, And now we know why, Like
what if it's a quarterback. What if one of the
names that comes out one of these names that Adam
(04:43):
Schefter is talking about, which is expected to be released
this week, which by the way, that leaves today and tomorrow. Like,
what if one of those names that comes out all
of a sudden to quarterback. Now you've got a guy
who's got an intimate role and an impact on the game,
on the outcome of the game, who all of a
(05:04):
sudden is placing wagers on NFL games. Now, I don't
think it's as drastic as the fix is in or
these guys are trying to scam the league and scam
the fans. I don't think it's a Tim donaghy where
they're admitting that they're changing the outcome of games by
betting on games. But for the NFL, if this is
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all about optics, if you're trying to cater to the
optic police, there are two things that need to happen here. One,
you got to lay the hammer down and let everybody
know everything is going to be fine. We take your
gambling money. We're willing to work with the gambling companies.
We're willing to bring in this extra revenue. And with
a team in Las Vegas. Right now, we want to
make everybody aware that all of this is on the
(05:47):
up and up and we're fine, right, So that is
the first thing you do.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The other thing you do.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is look around and go, all right, how could we
get past this as fast as possible?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
All right?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Do we have any big announcement we can drop right
after all this? Right after the NFL comes out and
announces all these names, Like, what are they gonna do next?
Give Sunday ticket for half off? What's the plan? Like
if you're Roger Gonna Because you know this is the
way they work. They've been sitting on these names for
(06:21):
a long time. They've been sitting on all these names.
And who's been placing wagers on over unders and total
rushing yards for a player here? Like, they've been sitting
on these names for a while. They've been trying to
formulate when's the best time to drop all this And
(06:42):
if they know that some of these names could be
damaging to the league, they're gonna try and do whatever
they can to steer people in another direction. They're gonna
do the late week news dump whatever you can call it.
If that's even a real thing at this point, But
the NFL's already got a plan B to try and
steer everybody away from the fact that you you've got
some players out there that may or may not be
degenerate gamblers, and they've got all these six rules. They
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drop out, and well if players can't, you know, like
you can't walk through a casino. You can't do this,
she can't. It's like, okay, I mean, you got a
Pro Bowl in Las Vegas. Other than the fact that
you've got a Pro Bowl in Las Vegas, you got
a Super Bowl coming up in Las Vegas, and you've
got a professional team in Las Vegas. The only other
issues you got with Las Vegas is whether or not
(07:26):
Alvin Kamara is waiting for his floor on an elevator
and whether or not he beats your ass on the
way there. That's really all you got other than that,
everything should be fine. But this is a year where
you're bringing the Super Bowl all the way to Las Vegas,
the home base ground zero of gambling, and the offseason
(07:49):
before you've got yourselves a gambling scandal. And like I said,
I don't think it's as drastic as a bunch of
players dictating the outcome of games. I don't think it's
as a bunch of players out there trying to trying
to scam the league and scam the fans. But I
do think it's bad enough that the NFL has been
trying to get ahead of this the entire time, and
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we should have read it from a mile away.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Little crumbs here. Hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's like when you are trying to ask or something
as a kid, or even when you get married. You
want to a little getaway trip. You and your buddies
want to go out of town for the weekend. All
of a sudden, brand new dozen Roses show up to
the house. You're kind, Hey, don't worry about it. I'll
take the kids to school.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey, everything's fine. You know, you just kind of you
butter them up a little bit, then you drop the
bombshell on them. Hey, you mind if we go have
our fantasy draft A drafted a strip club.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is that cool? We're gonna do it next Thursday. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
The NFL has had this. The NFL has been bracing
for this. The NFL has been leaving little crumbs along
the way, and we've been et scooping up Reese's pieces
off the floor at some house in California because the
NFL new the outcome is going to change some things,
So away we go. Let's hope it's a big name.
(09:07):
Let's hope we got a further scandal. And just for
the record, any of you players out there that may
be listening to this show that are wondering whether or
not you're going to be judged unfairly by a bunch
of nerds in the media who have never placed a
bet in their life, not from this guy, and not
on this show. We support gambling on this show. And
you know what, if you felt like you had to
(09:30):
make some supplemental income because you are a special teams
player or a guy returning kicks like Isaiah Rodgers, I
support that too. All of us have had to work
two or three jobs at one point or another.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was the rat at Chuck e Cheese.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'm not here to criticize anybody for how they make
a little bit of money on the side.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
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Speaker 2 (10:00):
So we had a little bit of history in the
world of sports last night. Domingo Herman of the New
York Yankees through a perfect game, right. So this was
in Oakland, so obviously in front of a packed house
people just I mean hanging from the rafters to try
and watch this game. The twenty fourth perfect game in
the history of Major League Baseball. So this is like
(10:22):
a huge moment for Domingo Herman and you know, just
they talked about a difficult week and think you know,
there was a death in the family, and for him
to go out there and pitch the way that he pitched,
just impressive to see him get it done. And the
fact it's only the twenty fourth time we've seen it
in the history of Major League Baseball makes it even
more impressive. So afterwards, his manager Aaron Boone talked about
(10:48):
watching his pitcher work and getting to see history up
close in person.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It was just so fun to watch him do that
and go to work and when he gets rolling like that,
he's just so fun to watch at his craft, you know,
just because he's so good at commanding all of his pitches,
his curveball is great tonight. I was actually pretty calm
over there, you know, just again just enjoying watching him
kind of paint a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, it's funny he uses the word paint, considering this
is a guy who was ejected once this season and
was caught another time this season with a sticky substance
all over his hands, just saying it is funny that that.
I don't know if we're talking what we're talking, like
Don Edwards, you know, maybe uh, you know, there used
to be an old Pittsburgh paints company back in the day. Crylon,
(11:37):
Is that a paint company? I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Listen, I don't know if he's into into graffiti or
any of that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But maybe he's just paint in the house.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But apparently Aaron Boone likes what he saw out of
Domingo Hermad. But in all seriousness, I actually think this
is a heartwarming tale and this is a.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Good story to have a discussion about. And here's why.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It just goes to show you just because you cut
a corner one time doesn't mean you're always going to
be that guy, all right, Like just because you speed
one time on the freeway.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Doesn't mean you're always going to be that person.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Like, there's somebody right now who's gonna get a speeding
ticket at some point later on today. It's gonna happen,
right I watched somebody get a speeding ticket on my
way in.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But just because you do it one time doesn't mean
you're gonna do it tomorrow or the next day, or
set a Sunday or might like. Listen, sometimes people just
make mistakes and they deserve to be forgiven. And I think,
coming off a season in which the Houston Astros won
a World Series, the fact that a guy who got
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ejected from a game because he had a sticky substance,
which was described by the umpires as when they touched
his hand, they had a hard time removing theirs.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Now, I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't know, if you know, if we're gluing Christmas
lights up and and and he just had a little
residue left over. I'm not really sure how that happens.
That seems like some pretty impressive glue. It doesn't seem
like the Elmers that you watch some weirdo in your
class eat when he was a kid, and then you
were stunned to find out at your twenty year reunion
that he was a drug addict the entire time. Like, listen,
(13:16):
that stuff happens. That is a possibility. But the fact
that we saw somebody who got ejected from a game
for cutting corners bounce all the way back and then
throw a perfect game just goes to show you we
don't know Diddley Pooh, in the words of Jim Mora,
about what cheating really is. It's like when a player
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in the NFL gets popped four games because he's taken peds,
and then you get DeAndre Hopkins who says, well, it
was a shampoo I was using. It's why I never
criticized the guy. Now, I've used vo five before, I
didn't get jacked afterwards, all right. I've used Purpplus. I've
had Dan Driftma in my day.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
How happened? All right? I've used head and shoulders, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't remember being able to power clean seven hundred
pounds after I use some head and shoulders. I'm just
trying to get rid of whatever the hell's going on
in the top of my head. But apparently to DeAndre Hopkins.
He used some shampoo and next thing, you know, a
guy pisses hot.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
We couldn't do.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Gittalyko offensively agreed.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Jim all right, Jim mormony have cut a couple of
corners back in the day. Former Fox Sports radio host.
This is a judgment free zone. And so the fact
that we've seen the Houston Astros come back and win
a World Series after they were banging on trash cans,
and the fact that we got Di Mingo Herman who
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a month and a half ago had a sticky substance
all over his hands and was ejected from a game,
which was the second.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Time this year he had to be talked to about it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And he comes all the way back and throws a
perfect game, Like, look, maybe major League Baseball let his slide,
you know, give the these A's fans a little feel
good on the way out. Yeah, we're gonna build a
stadium right next to the luxor in the MGM lion's mouth,
But you know what, give them one last kind of
send off. Hey, you want a little bit of history.
It's not gonna happen because of you guys. Your team stinks.
(15:14):
So here's a little bit of history. Well, we'll let
Domingo Harman use whatever it is he's got to use. Paint,
thinner w D forty like you name it, cooking oil,
I mean grease from a George Foreman grill and that
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little pan that comes off the bottom. Like whatever he's
got to, whatever substance he's got to use. You want
to file down the baseball, do whatever you need to do.
You want to leave your nails in a way to
where you look gothic, but it gives you a little
extra spin on the ball, that's fine. Give these A's
fans something on the way out. They've been through a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Maybe that was part of the deal here, but the
fact is it just furthers the point we don't know
what the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like everybody wants to vilify Lance Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And now I'm not gonna get into Lance Armstrong's interview
with Caitlin Jenner because I I don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay, you guys can go get worked up about that
all you want.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But everyone looked at Lance Armstrong. We're like, Wow, he's
a scumbag and he's a cheater and he's a fraud.
And then you realize one of those Tour de Frances
when they went back and looked through, they realize, oh,
everybody here's on the gas. All right, we got a
brand new champion. It was like the guy who finished
twenty eighth, he gets a call one day and it's
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from the Tour de France, like, congratulations on your Tour
de France. When he's like, what are you talking about?
I'm waiting tables now, what do you mean you want
the Tour de France. The other twenty seven guys in
front of you pissed hot. They don't count anymore. When
you find out a lot of people are doing it
kind of changes the way you feel about what actually
cheating is and what cutting corners is. And so look,
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I know Rob Manford is not the most well like
guy now the commission or Major League Baseball a little
bit abrasive. Doesn't realize when he's saying something that's a
little insulting, like disrespecting the World Series trophy or telling
A's fans, we appreciate you guys doing the reverse Boycotty
had average attendance when he showed up to that game.
I know he doesn't realize what he's actually saying, as
(17:17):
he sends Major League Baseball over to London. I get
all that, but this ought to change the way you
feel about sometimes when people cut corners. Just because you
do it once doesn't mean you're always gonna do it,
all right, Yes, the Astros banged on some trash cans,
all right. They may have had some sort of an
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electric shock treatment on some of their players to where
they were getting tipped off, you know, when a curveball
was coming. That may have happened, But it doesn't mean
they're all scumbags, and it doesn't mean they're gonna be
scumbags for the rest of their life. Sometimes people just
make mistakes, you know. I know a lot of people
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out there who have dined and ditched. I've never done it,
but it's a scumbag move. I was driving one time,
about a year and a half ago. Bunch of kids
hiding behind a wall near my house pegged the front
of my truck with eggs. All right, So, like any
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rational human being, what did I do?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Went to the.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
House, grabbed a giant Philip screwdriver and a blowtorch and
said what are we doing here? They were gone when.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I got back.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But the reason why I was able to calm down
in the moment is because I realized, you know what,
I've been an a hole too. I threw water balloons
at people coming out of a movie theater when I
was growing up in high school. So I said, I
did it once. I'm a changed person now, and sometimes
when people make mistakes, they change afterwards and it's for
the better. So congratulations to Domingo Herman, a guy who
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had radiator fluid on his hands pitching in a game
and was ejected for it a month and a half
ago and now makes history and throws a perfect game.
I think it's a heartwarming tale.
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Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, so, Aby, I got to ask you this. So
the report comes out yesterday, and you've alluded to this
over the past couple of weeks talking about that there's
going to be other names that come up that the
league is bracing to release, these names of players that
are going to be suspended for gambling violations and violating
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the policy. Now would I would like to ask you
what names those are if you are privy to that information.
But how bad is this going to be from your
understanding in talking to people around the league, Like, how
big of a bombshell could this be for players getting
popped this week when it comes to gambling.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, I don't think it's any you know, any surprise
that you know, we're got the fourth of July weekend
coming up, and there's a nice little slot there tomorrow
at about five o'clock that might be ideal for that
news to drop. So I don't think it's a mistake.
I think a lot of this has been managed and
it's been in the works for a while. And you know,
(21:59):
I I would I would say, Jonas, I think there
are two buckets, right, And you know, I think there's
one bucket, which is like the Isaiah Rogers bucket, right,
which is there's not going to be any sympathy for
guys who gambled on the NFL. Like, look, I'm going
to be a little harsh here. If you don't understand
why the NFL can't have its players gambling on the NFL,
(22:23):
then you're probably too dumb to have a conversation with
They cannot allow that obviously, right. The second bucket's a
different one though. The second bucket is gambling on college basketball,
gambling on horse racing, going to the casino, you know,
all that sort of stuff. And you know, for such
a long time, you know, it was easy for the
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NFL where it was just zero tolerance, you know, because
it was illegal everywhere except for Nevada. And so you know,
like that's sort of where I think things are a
little more gray, and there are going to be year
long suspensions for guys who gambled on NFL games again
for obvious reasons. I think where we're going to where
we've seen more of a fighter than the other bucket.
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And you know, I think it's no mistake that over
the last two three weeks, you guys have heard a
lot we've talked about this, I think right about the
NFL's gambling policy and the NFL really pushing the word
out there on what their policy is and trying to
be crystal clear on it and letting the public know
that they're being crystal clear on it. And the reason
(23:28):
why is because because they weren't crystal clear on it before.
And a lot of the pushback they're getting from the
players who've been implicated in this thing is, well, you weren't.
You didn't. You didn't educate us on what's allowed and
what's not allowed, and you know, we got busted on
a nebulous rule, you know. And and it's fair in
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those sorts of cases to bring up the hypocrisy, you know,
it's fair in those cases to bring up the fact
that there's a casino name on a stadium and the
NFL is in bed with you know, every game. I'mily
service on a planet now and you know their owners
who are investors and DraftKings, you know. So maybe there
are two separate categories and there's one where I don't
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think anybody should have a whole lot of sympathy for guys,
and then there's another where I think there's a lot
more gray area.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Can I ask you another question here just in regards
to the NFL making and just some news that came
out this week. So the Dolphins Chiefs game in Germany
sells out in fifteen minutes, and you saw just the
setup last year and it was phenomenal and people really
rallied around the sport and it was no surprise that
they wanted to go back there. Why is it the
(24:38):
Dolphins and the Chiefs though? Because my point is, why
would the NFL give up a great matchup like Kansas
City Miami internationally? And again not trying to be rude here,
why not like Tennessee Arizona?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You know, like like why not send something.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Over that maybe these fan bases are aren't going to
be punished for because if your Dolphins are a Chiefs fan,
I maan, I go to these games, especially in Kansas City.
Why should I lose out on an opportunity to see
my team just to send them over internationally?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
And I understand the point. I think part of it
is is actually driven by the teams. You know, Kansas
City has been aggressive in marketing overseas and marketing specifically
in Germany, and they're one of the designated teams for Germany.
You know, the Patriots are another one of them. They're
going to be over there in the other game next year.
And I think, like it's just you know, I think
(25:35):
one thing the NFL has sort of come to recognize
in London is that sports will consumed a different way
in other countries, right, And like one of the reasons,
like the NBA, for example, is so successful in China
is because people over there gravitate towards stars, right, and
the NBA is so star driven, and so like, you know,
(25:58):
they Kobe Bryant may have been more popular in China
than he was in the United States, and so like
the star the fact that like the NBA was able
to kind of capitalize on the marketability of its stars
internationally has allowed basketball to grow exponentially all over the world.
And you know, I think when the NFL started doing
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this full bore in two thousand and seven, they tried
a whole bunch of different stuff, and I think one
thing that they've sort of come to realize is stars resonate,
and stars more than team brands resonate. And the NFL
has been so team brand or and it's a difference
than like the way other sports do and that they
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sort of market the mystique of the Raiders and the
Steelers and the Cowboys, and it's harder to sell that overseas.
And so I think the NFL has sort of recognized, like,
we need to put stars over there, and there's no
more marketable star than Patrick mahome yea, so to capitalize
on what they've done, you know, in Germany, and I
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mean they've really grown the game there and there's a
long history of that going back to you know, the
military bases and kids grow kids growing up like playing there,
you know all that. You know, I think that the
idea is we need to really take advantage of the
momentum we have over there. And they've got a willing
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partner and the Chiefs who really want to take advantage
of the window that they're in to become a popular
team in another country. And so I think it's sort
of a combination of different things. And here's the reality
up too. I mean, under the current agreement over an
eight year period, every team is going to have to
give up a home game one way or the other.
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And so I think the Chiefs, you know, having the
ability to go over there now it kicks it off
the ledger going forward, and it also gives them the
chance again to be sort of right in the middle
of that momentum in Germany and trying to get their
brand over there.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
them on Twitter at Albert Brier. All right, So I
got to know, what's the worst game set?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Have you? How many?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
First of all, I don't know if you've been to
a bunch of international games, but what is the worst
setup for a specialty NFL game that you've ever seen
in person?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That you go, man, that this was not well thought out?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
You know, I've been to a couple of games at Wembley.
I haven't been to Tattenham, but I've been to a
couple of games at Wembley, and that was I would say.
I would say, like it was just so different, you
know what I mean? Like, I don't think it was bad,
but it was different. I ended the thing with Mexico
and I wasn't at this game, but like, when they
first went back to Mexico, there was like a you know,
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they had to put the I think they had to
put the locker rooms like outside the stadium because they
didn't they didn't have like they didn't have locker rooms
in the building of the soccer stadium they could have.
I was a full NFL team, so they built like
external locker rooms. And there was this story and you
guys can look this up of how these guys like
going to the fields in the locker room had to
(29:11):
walk down this really treacherous This is a really treacherous
like concrete like incline and like legitimately, like I hope
I don't get injured walking down the incline going from
the going from the field to the going from the
locker room to the field. So I would say that's
(29:33):
probably the worst one. You know what, Actually I take
that back. The worst one by far was and I'm
gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna see if I can get
this one right. Because it was four years ago the
NFL was celebrating its two hundred it's a hundredth anniversary,
and they were doing they were doing the you know,
(29:55):
I think like putting different training camps in different places
right all over the country. Okay, so the first NFL
game ever was in Dayton, Ohio, and so they wanted
to put the Bengals first practice that year on the
field where the first NFL game was held. So, but
it was like this, this city park right like that
(30:16):
hadn't been well maintained. So the NFL said, you know what,
We're going to go in and we're going to spend
a couple of million dollars and we're going to put
in some beautiful, like putting green level like practice fields here,
and then we're going to donate them to the city.
After well a couple of months before the people that
the city, a couple people raised their hands and said, no,
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that's like an old Indian burial ground. And so they
went and they surveyed the land and of course it
was an Indian burial ground, and they shut the whole
thing down. So you can't practice here. But the NFL
was like, well, we still want to make you practice.
We're still going to make you practice in Dayton as
a celebration of this. The Bengals pushed back, They said no, no, no,
(30:59):
you have to do this. So they went to the
University of day stadium. I showed up there on the
first day, on the first Saturday training camp. One of
their coaches came up to me and dug into the
turf and he opened his hand up. There were rocks,
there were like small pieces of glass. It was awful,
and every coach was like, we need to get the
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guys like like, and the league office was like stay
out there and like. The horrible thing that that wound
up happening in that day was right. AJ Green got hurt. Right,
the ended his career as a bangle, and I think
you could argue AJ Green was never the same. So
the NFL for this stupid, silly, ridiculous like hundredth anniversaries
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celebration that they were so like hell bent on putting
a practice in Dayton, Ohio, and their best play plans
had blown up. They wind up like Jerry rigging the
idea and throwing it into the stadium that didn't like
that wasn't ready for an NFL team and hadn't been maintained.
And a guy winds up, you know, a guy winds
(32:07):
up having his career irrevocably changed. Oh I, I wanted
to say in Mexico. But I would say that the
field day in Ohio is probably the worst.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Because I remember that because I was on the air
with Bucky Brooks here. We were doing a show at
Fox Sports Radio and it was and there was video
that was being shown on television of AJ Green slamming
his helmet on.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The bench yep.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And I remember Bucky was making the point like, man,
it's not like AJ Green's got a pattern of behavior
of being a diva wide receiver. Something must have really
pissed him off. And you're right, he was never the same,
Like it was never the same instead.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Knowing you and the reason but the reason he was
ten is because they all saw it coming. Yeah, that's
why he was pissed. You'd be pissed anyway, right, But
like you said, like that's not AJ Green's demeanor, right,
And so like Jay Green was pissed because every Bengals coach,
every Bengals player saw it coming. And Zach Taylor was
(33:08):
the first year coach, and like they tried to get
the league to pull them off a field and the
league forced them to stay out out there, and the
league knew, like, you know, our first year coaching staff
doesn't have the leverage to tell us to go to go,
you know, f ourselves.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Oh yeah, the whole thing was just a I would say,
like as embarrassing an episode. And and I can remember
driving from Cincinnati to Indianapolis that night, because you know,
I'm on my training kip trip, I'm going from camp
to camp, and I can just you know, remember the
phone calls that I that I had with people and
(33:44):
how pissed they were. And yeah, I mean there's no
question that was the worst.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Before we let you go because we got to live
vicariously through you. Because I've never been to Nantucket, I
have no idea what the hell it's like. So what
is Nantucket for Fourth of July?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Line?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
What are we looking at for the weekend? What are
the festivities like there for the Brier family?
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Well, so yeah, so we'll do.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
There's a big water fight on main Street. I'm happy
to send you pictures of it. But there's a big
water fight where all the kids get super soakers and
stuff and water balloons, and the fire department brings like
these big antique fire trucks up and these the hoses
on the main street and everyone is just like everybody's
(34:28):
spraying everybody, and yeah, so like there's that on the
morning and then fireworks and all the normal stuff. I
would say, but yeah, man, like it's a it's a
really cool place. It's just we've been coming here for
about a decade now. I would say a huge part
of it for us is that we live so close
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and yet it feels so far away. And anybody who
felt the pain of having to travel through airports with children,
oh God, I think would understand me when I say, like,
there is there's absolutely a beauty to packing up your
car and putting it on a fairy knowing when you
unload that car you're gonna be on vacation. You're not
going to be hauling all that crap through like Terminal
(35:11):
D and maybe winding up like Lee the other day.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, that's that's a listen as somebody who's got a
two year old. We drove down to San Diego, which
is like, you know, two and a half hours in
comparison to flying an hour and a half from La
La to Phoenix. It's not even like, not even close
to how much more convenient it is.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
So I can remember, and this is when we had
one kid, right. This is when we were we had won.
Emily was pregnant with our second and we did like
a you know, I don't know, quote unquote baby moon,
and we went down to we went to Repute, which
isn't like a long flight from Boston. It's like an
hour and a half, right, And and I can remember
going through the airport with with uh, with our oldest
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who at the time was like a year a year
and change, a year and a half maybe, And I
can remember like feeling like we were like in Armada
going through the airport, and I'm like, and I remember
saying Emily, I'm like, I'm like, do you remember like
two years ago when we would go on vacation and
it's like you and me and like two carry on bags,
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and like we're just struggling to get ourselves at the gate.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know, it's so bad.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
So I remember it was that experience where I was like,
you know what, like cloading up the car ain't so bad.
You only have to do it once. You don't have
to move, you don't have to keep moving that native
amount of stuff. And when you're there, you're there. So
that's sort of the beauty of this one for us.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I agree well, AB, Happy Fourth July weekend to you
and the fam.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Get them on Twitter at Albert Brier, Senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB, and a Thursday tradition here on the show,
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It again next week?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
A right, thanks there, he is the great Alba Brier
with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
You ever seen somebody behave in a way that doesn't
make sense until later on you find out why they
were actually behaving in that way, You know, like you
hear this stuff all the time. Somebody finds out that
their better half is fooling around on them, and then
they start to think back and retrace the steps, and
they go, God, they were clues there the whole time.
(00:34):
I should have known there were clues there the whole time.
If I would have paid close enough attention, I could
have spotted those clues. I could have seen what was happening.
But unfortunately, too little, too late. And now I just
got to deal with the fact that somebody fooled around
on me with the neighbor, the neighbor's dog, you name it,
whatever their preference. That's what that went down. And that's
the way this thing works. So I say all that
(00:57):
to say this, We should have known something was coming
up in the NFL. Should have known all the signs
were there, sending members of the league to talk to
players about the dangers of gambling. Tom Brady doing a
video to send out to rookies coming into the league,
(01:20):
talking about how it's not worth it. You know, guys,
it's not worth it, you know, don't ruin your career
by gambling on the NFL.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
All the other.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Little things that have come out, you got coaches and
players saying, yeah, we just felt like a lot of
this stuff we weren't really all that educated on, you know,
kind of confused, kind kind of you know, trying to
figure this whole thing out, don't really have a clear
understanding as to what the rules are. And then Adam
Schefter drops this little gem yesterday courtesy of ESPN that
(01:51):
Isaiah Rodgers of the Colts, you know, the kick returner
slash defensive back who got popped for gambling. Well, him
and a handful of other players are expected to receive
season long suspensions for violating the NFL's gambling policy. Yeah,
we should have known something was coming up. Now we
knew about Isaiah Rodgers, all right, And I listen, I
(02:16):
backed Isaiah Rodgers on this show. Guy's a kick returner.
Have you seen what the league's doing to kick returners?
I don't blame him for trying to have some supplemental income.
What do you want me to do? Drive an uber
or lyft? No, he's looking around, going, hey, if I've
got some intel on some of these teams, I'm gonna
ahead and place a bet and try and make some
of this money back. The league's taken for me out
of my back pocket, in front pocket because they want
(02:36):
to ruin the kickoff. But then it's all these other players.
Albert Breer, who we're going to talk to later on
on this show. He is, he's said for a little
while now. Yet it feels like there's some other guys
that are gonna pop up here. It feels like there's
some other suspensions that are coming up. It feels like
this isn't just an isolated incident when it comes to
(02:59):
Isaiah Rogers. And of course this is the same offseason.
You got members from the Lions like Jamison Williams, you
got a member of the Washington Commanders who got popped.
You got Calvin Ridley coming back, and he's talking about
all the all the dangers of gambling and why it's
not worth it and why we should have known there's
something else going on here, and something else was coming
(03:21):
up around the corner.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Should have known all the signs were there.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What I'm wondering is how big are the name's gonna
be to get popped and the names to get released,
And furthermore, how many of those names are we not
going to hear about?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Like I want to know?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Like I always, I thought it was a little strange
that of all the people you would have doing a
tutorial or a video on what not to do when
it comes to sports betting, that it would be Tom Brady,
Like why would you.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Go so over the top?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Like to compare ones that I made was if you've
got a little fire on the stove, you don't bring
an airliner to drop fire retardant on the entire house.
You either turn the stove off, you fan it down
with a rolled up newspaper or magazine, or you bring
one of the house fire extinguishers out to have a
(04:21):
tanker drop a bunch of pink stuff all over the
house to put out a stove fire seems a bit drastic,
And it seemed like Tom Brady being brought in to
do some video to try and warn players about gambling
seemed a bit drastic, And now we know why, Like
what if it's a quarterback. What if one of the
names that comes out one of these names that Adam
(04:43):
Schefter is talking about, which is expected to be released
this week, which by the way, that leaves today and tomorrow. Like,
what if one of those names that comes out all
of a sudden to quarterback. Now you've got a guy
who's got an intimate role and an impact on the game,
on the outcome of the game, who all of a
(05:04):
sudden is placing wagers on NFL games. Now, I don't
think it's as drastic as the fix is in or
these guys are trying to scam the league and scam
the fans. I don't think it's a Tim donaghy where
they're admitting that they're changing the outcome of games by
betting on games. But for the NFL, if this is
(05:25):
all about optics, if you're trying to cater to the
optic police, there are two things that need to happen here. One,
you got to lay the hammer down and let everybody
know everything is going to be fine. We take your
gambling money. We're willing to work with the gambling companies.
We're willing to bring in this extra revenue. And with
a team in Las Vegas. Right now, we want to
make everybody aware that all of this is on the
(05:47):
up and up and we're fine, right, So that is
the first thing you do.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
The other thing you do.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Is look around and go, all right, how could we
get past this as fast as possible?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
All right?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Do we have any big announcement we can drop right
after all this? Right after the NFL comes out and
announces all these names, Like, what are they gonna do next?
Give Sunday ticket for half off? What's the plan? Like
if you're Roger Gonna Because you know this is the
way they work. They've been sitting on these names for
(06:21):
a long time. They've been sitting on all these names.
And who's been placing wagers on over unders and total
rushing yards for a player here? Like, they've been sitting
on these names for a while. They've been trying to
formulate when's the best time to drop all this And
(06:42):
if they know that some of these names could be
damaging to the league, they're gonna try and do whatever
they can to steer people in another direction. They're gonna
do the late week news dump whatever you can call it.
If that's even a real thing at this point, But
the NFL's already got a plan B to try and
steer everybody away from the fact that you you've got
some players out there that may or may not be
degenerate gamblers, and they've got all these six rules. They
(07:06):
drop out, and well if players can't, you know, like
you can't walk through a casino. You can't do this,
she can't. It's like, okay, I mean, you got a
Pro Bowl in Las Vegas. Other than the fact that
you've got a Pro Bowl in Las Vegas, you got
a Super Bowl coming up in Las Vegas, and you've
got a professional team in Las Vegas. The only other
issues you got with Las Vegas is whether or not
(07:26):
Alvin Kamara is waiting for his floor on an elevator
and whether or not he beats your ass on the
way there. That's really all you got other than that,
everything should be fine. But this is a year where
you're bringing the Super Bowl all the way to Las Vegas,
the home base ground zero of gambling, and the offseason
(07:49):
before you've got yourselves a gambling scandal. And like I said,
I don't think it's as drastic as a bunch of
players dictating the outcome of games. I don't think it's
as a bunch of players out there trying to trying
to scam the league and scam the fans. But I
do think it's bad enough that the NFL has been
trying to get ahead of this the entire time, and
(08:11):
we should have read it from a mile away.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Little crumbs here. Hey, what do you think about this?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's like when you are trying to ask or something
as a kid, or even when you get married. You
want to a little getaway trip. You and your buddies
want to go out of town for the weekend. All
of a sudden, brand new dozen Roses show up to
the house. You're kind, Hey, don't worry about it. I'll
take the kids to school.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Hey, everything's fine. You know, you just kind of you
butter them up a little bit, then you drop the
bombshell on them. Hey, you mind if we go have
our fantasy draft A drafted a strip club.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Is that cool? We're gonna do it next Thursday. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
The NFL has had this. The NFL has been bracing
for this. The NFL has been leaving little crumbs along
the way, and we've been et scooping up Reese's pieces
off the floor at some house in California because the
NFL new the outcome is going to change some things,
So away we go. Let's hope it's a big name.
(09:07):
Let's hope we got a further scandal. And just for
the record, any of you players out there that may
be listening to this show that are wondering whether or
not you're going to be judged unfairly by a bunch
of nerds in the media who have never placed a
bet in their life, not from this guy, and not
on this show. We support gambling on this show. And
you know what, if you felt like you had to
(09:30):
make some supplemental income because you are a special teams
player or a guy returning kicks like Isaiah Rodgers, I
support that too. All of us have had to work
two or three jobs at one point or another.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was the rat at Chuck e Cheese.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I'm not here to criticize anybody for how they make
a little bit of money on the side.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
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Speaker 2 (10:00):
So we had a little bit of history in the
world of sports last night. Domingo Herman of the New
York Yankees through a perfect game, right. So this was
in Oakland, so obviously in front of a packed house
people just I mean hanging from the rafters to try
and watch this game. The twenty fourth perfect game in
the history of Major League Baseball. So this is like
(10:22):
a huge moment for Domingo Herman and you know, just
they talked about a difficult week and think you know,
there was a death in the family, and for him
to go out there and pitch the way that he pitched,
just impressive to see him get it done. And the
fact it's only the twenty fourth time we've seen it
in the history of Major League Baseball makes it even
more impressive. So afterwards, his manager Aaron Boone talked about
(10:48):
watching his pitcher work and getting to see history up
close in person.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
It was just so fun to watch him do that
and go to work and when he gets rolling like that,
he's just so fun to watch at his craft, you know,
just because he's so good at commanding all of his pitches,
his curveball is great tonight. I was actually pretty calm
over there, you know, just again just enjoying watching him
kind of paint a masterpiece.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, it's funny he uses the word paint, considering this
is a guy who was ejected once this season and
was caught another time this season with a sticky substance
all over his hands, just saying it is funny that that.
I don't know if we're talking what we're talking, like
Don Edwards, you know, maybe uh, you know, there used
to be an old Pittsburgh paints company back in the day. Crylon,
(11:37):
Is that a paint company? I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Listen, I don't know if he's into into graffiti or
any of that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But maybe he's just paint in the house.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
But apparently Aaron Boone likes what he saw out of
Domingo Hermad. But in all seriousness, I actually think this
is a heartwarming tale and this is a.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Good story to have a discussion about. And here's why.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
It just goes to show you just because you cut
a corner one time doesn't mean you're always going to
be that guy, all right, Like just because you speed
one time on the freeway.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Doesn't mean you're always going to be that person.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Like, there's somebody right now who's gonna get a speeding
ticket at some point later on today. It's gonna happen,
right I watched somebody get a speeding ticket on my
way in.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But just because you do it one time doesn't mean
you're gonna do it tomorrow or the next day, or
set a Sunday or might like. Listen, sometimes people just
make mistakes and they deserve to be forgiven. And I think,
coming off a season in which the Houston Astros won
a World Series, the fact that a guy who got
(12:42):
ejected from a game because he had a sticky substance,
which was described by the umpires as when they touched
his hand, they had a hard time removing theirs.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Now, I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I don't know, if you know, if we're gluing Christmas
lights up and and and he just had a little
residue left over. I'm not really sure how that happens.
That seems like some pretty impressive glue. It doesn't seem
like the Elmers that you watch some weirdo in your
class eat when he was a kid, and then you
were stunned to find out at your twenty year reunion
that he was a drug addict the entire time. Like, listen,
(13:16):
that stuff happens. That is a possibility. But the fact
that we saw somebody who got ejected from a game
for cutting corners bounce all the way back and then
throw a perfect game just goes to show you we
don't know Diddley Pooh, in the words of Jim Mora,
about what cheating really is. It's like when a player
(13:39):
in the NFL gets popped four games because he's taken peds,
and then you get DeAndre Hopkins who says, well, it
was a shampoo I was using. It's why I never
criticized the guy. Now, I've used vo five before, I
didn't get jacked afterwards, all right. I've used Purpplus. I've
had Dan Driftma in my day.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
How happened? All right? I've used head and shoulders, all right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I don't remember being able to power clean seven hundred
pounds after I use some head and shoulders. I'm just
trying to get rid of whatever the hell's going on
in the top of my head. But apparently to DeAndre Hopkins.
He used some shampoo and next thing, you know, a
guy pisses hot.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
We couldn't do.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Gittalyko offensively agreed.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Jim all right, Jim mormony have cut a couple of
corners back in the day. Former Fox Sports radio host.
This is a judgment free zone. And so the fact
that we've seen the Houston Astros come back and win
a World Series after they were banging on trash cans,
and the fact that we got Di Mingo Herman who
(14:43):
a month and a half ago had a sticky substance
all over his hands and was ejected from a game,
which was the second.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Time this year he had to be talked to about it.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And he comes all the way back and throws a
perfect game, Like, look, maybe major League Baseball let his slide,
you know, give the these A's fans a little feel
good on the way out. Yeah, we're gonna build a
stadium right next to the luxor in the MGM lion's mouth,
But you know what, give them one last kind of
send off. Hey, you want a little bit of history.
It's not gonna happen because of you guys. Your team stinks.
(15:14):
So here's a little bit of history. Well, we'll let
Domingo Harman use whatever it is he's got to use. Paint,
thinner w D forty like you name it, cooking oil,
I mean grease from a George Foreman grill and that
(15:35):
little pan that comes off the bottom. Like whatever he's
got to, whatever substance he's got to use. You want
to file down the baseball, do whatever you need to do.
You want to leave your nails in a way to
where you look gothic, but it gives you a little
extra spin on the ball, that's fine. Give these A's
fans something on the way out. They've been through a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
Maybe that was part of the deal here, but the
fact is it just furthers the point we don't know
what the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Like everybody wants to vilify Lance Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And now I'm not gonna get into Lance Armstrong's interview
with Caitlin Jenner because I I don't care.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay, you guys can go get worked up about that
all you want.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But everyone looked at Lance Armstrong. We're like, Wow, he's
a scumbag and he's a cheater and he's a fraud.
And then you realize one of those Tour de Frances
when they went back and looked through, they realize, oh,
everybody here's on the gas. All right, we got a
brand new champion. It was like the guy who finished
twenty eighth, he gets a call one day and it's
(16:33):
from the Tour de France, like, congratulations on your Tour
de France. When he's like, what are you talking about?
I'm waiting tables now, what do you mean you want
the Tour de France. The other twenty seven guys in
front of you pissed hot. They don't count anymore. When
you find out a lot of people are doing it
kind of changes the way you feel about what actually
cheating is and what cutting corners is. And so look,
(16:56):
I know Rob Manford is not the most well like
guy now the commission or Major League Baseball a little
bit abrasive. Doesn't realize when he's saying something that's a
little insulting, like disrespecting the World Series trophy or telling
A's fans, we appreciate you guys doing the reverse Boycotty
had average attendance when he showed up to that game.
I know he doesn't realize what he's actually saying, as
(17:17):
he sends Major League Baseball over to London. I get
all that, but this ought to change the way you
feel about sometimes when people cut corners. Just because you
do it once doesn't mean you're always gonna do it,
all right, Yes, the Astros banged on some trash cans,
all right. They may have had some sort of an
(17:39):
electric shock treatment on some of their players to where
they were getting tipped off, you know, when a curveball
was coming. That may have happened, But it doesn't mean
they're all scumbags, and it doesn't mean they're gonna be
scumbags for the rest of their life. Sometimes people just
make mistakes, you know. I know a lot of people
(18:00):
out there who have dined and ditched. I've never done it,
but it's a scumbag move. I was driving one time,
about a year and a half ago. Bunch of kids
hiding behind a wall near my house pegged the front
of my truck with eggs. All right, So, like any
(18:20):
rational human being, what did I do?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Went to the.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
House, grabbed a giant Philip screwdriver and a blowtorch and
said what are we doing here? They were gone when.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I got back.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
But the reason why I was able to calm down
in the moment is because I realized, you know what,
I've been an a hole too. I threw water balloons
at people coming out of a movie theater when I
was growing up in high school. So I said, I
did it once. I'm a changed person now, and sometimes
when people make mistakes, they change afterwards and it's for
the better. So congratulations to Domingo Herman, a guy who
(18:58):
had radiator fluid on his hands pitching in a game
and was ejected for it a month and a half
ago and now makes history and throws a perfect game.
I think it's a heartwarming tale.
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Albert Breer. Fresh off vacation in Nantucket. How we feeling, Abe, Well.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
I'm still here and I be here for the next
couple of weeks. But yeah, I'm good. I'm good good.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
All right, So he's he's enjoying.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Hopefully you had better better travel, look than uh than
than lee to lafted.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
All right, that sounded like we had had a tough time.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
There with Oh Jesus, look when you're when you're standing
in line to use the restroom with homeless people at
a train station at five in the morning, I would
say the plane didn't get there. You know, some stuff
probably popped.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Up, but it's I would say air travel right now,
is a complete crap. Shoot.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, it's terrible, terrible for everybody.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Boat all the boat time, taking the last a couple
of weeks of run on time. Bar happy to report that.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, so, Aby, I got to ask you this. So
the report comes out yesterday, and you've alluded to this
over the past couple of weeks talking about that there's
going to be other names that come up that the
league is bracing to release, these names of players that
are going to be suspended for gambling violations and violating
(21:19):
the policy. Now would I would like to ask you
what names those are if you are privy to that information.
But how bad is this going to be from your
understanding in talking to people around the league, Like, how
big of a bombshell could this be for players getting
popped this week when it comes to gambling.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
Well, I don't think it's any you know, any surprise
that you know, we're got the fourth of July weekend
coming up, and there's a nice little slot there tomorrow
at about five o'clock that might be ideal for that
news to drop. So I don't think it's a mistake.
I think a lot of this has been managed and
it's been in the works for a while. And you know,
(21:59):
I I would I would say, Jonas, I think there
are two buckets, right, And you know, I think there's
one bucket, which is like the Isaiah Rogers bucket, right,
which is there's not going to be any sympathy for
guys who gambled on the NFL. Like, look, I'm going
to be a little harsh here. If you don't understand
why the NFL can't have its players gambling on the NFL,
(22:23):
then you're probably too dumb to have a conversation with
They cannot allow that obviously, right. The second bucket's a
different one though. The second bucket is gambling on college basketball,
gambling on horse racing, going to the casino, you know,
all that sort of stuff. And you know, for such
a long time, you know, it was easy for the
(22:45):
NFL where it was just zero tolerance, you know, because
it was illegal everywhere except for Nevada. And so you know,
like that's sort of where I think things are a
little more gray, and there are going to be year
long suspensions for guys who gambled on NFL games again
for obvious reasons. I think where we're going to where
we've seen more of a fighter than the other bucket.
(23:07):
And you know, I think it's no mistake that over
the last two three weeks, you guys have heard a
lot we've talked about this, I think right about the
NFL's gambling policy and the NFL really pushing the word
out there on what their policy is and trying to
be crystal clear on it and letting the public know
that they're being crystal clear on it. And the reason
(23:28):
why is because because they weren't crystal clear on it before.
And a lot of the pushback they're getting from the
players who've been implicated in this thing is, well, you weren't.
You didn't. You didn't educate us on what's allowed and
what's not allowed, and you know, we got busted on
a nebulous rule, you know. And and it's fair in
(23:49):
those sorts of cases to bring up the hypocrisy, you know,
it's fair in those cases to bring up the fact
that there's a casino name on a stadium and the
NFL is in bed with you know, every game. I'mily
service on a planet now and you know their owners
who are investors and DraftKings, you know. So maybe there
are two separate categories and there's one where I don't
(24:09):
think anybody should have a whole lot of sympathy for guys,
and then there's another where I think there's a lot
more gray area.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Can I ask you another question here just in regards
to the NFL making and just some news that came
out this week. So the Dolphins Chiefs game in Germany
sells out in fifteen minutes, and you saw just the
setup last year and it was phenomenal and people really
rallied around the sport and it was no surprise that
they wanted to go back there. Why is it the
(24:38):
Dolphins and the Chiefs though? Because my point is, why
would the NFL give up a great matchup like Kansas
City Miami internationally? And again not trying to be rude here,
why not like Tennessee Arizona?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
You know, like like why not send something.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Over that maybe these fan bases are aren't going to
be punished for because if your Dolphins are a Chiefs fan,
I maan, I go to these games, especially in Kansas City.
Why should I lose out on an opportunity to see
my team just to send them over internationally?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
And I understand the point. I think part of it
is is actually driven by the teams. You know, Kansas
City has been aggressive in marketing overseas and marketing specifically
in Germany, and they're one of the designated teams for Germany.
You know, the Patriots are another one of them. They're
going to be over there in the other game next year.
And I think, like it's just you know, I think
(25:35):
one thing the NFL has sort of come to recognize
in London is that sports will consumed a different way
in other countries, right, And like one of the reasons,
like the NBA, for example, is so successful in China
is because people over there gravitate towards stars, right, and
the NBA is so star driven, and so like, you know,
(25:58):
they Kobe Bryant may have been more popular in China
than he was in the United States, and so like
the star the fact that like the NBA was able
to kind of capitalize on the marketability of its stars
internationally has allowed basketball to grow exponentially all over the world.
And you know, I think when the NFL started doing
(26:22):
this full bore in two thousand and seven, they tried
a whole bunch of different stuff, and I think one
thing that they've sort of come to realize is stars resonate,
and stars more than team brands resonate. And the NFL
has been so team brand or and it's a difference
than like the way other sports do and that they
(26:42):
sort of market the mystique of the Raiders and the
Steelers and the Cowboys, and it's harder to sell that overseas.
And so I think the NFL has sort of recognized, like,
we need to put stars over there, and there's no
more marketable star than Patrick mahome yea, so to capitalize
on what they've done, you know, in Germany, and I
(27:04):
mean they've really grown the game there and there's a
long history of that going back to you know, the
military bases and kids grow kids growing up like playing there,
you know all that. You know, I think that the
idea is we need to really take advantage of the
momentum we have over there. And they've got a willing
(27:25):
partner and the Chiefs who really want to take advantage
of the window that they're in to become a popular
team in another country. And so I think it's sort
of a combination of different things. And here's the reality
up too. I mean, under the current agreement over an
eight year period, every team is going to have to
give up a home game one way or the other.
(27:48):
And so I think the Chiefs, you know, having the
ability to go over there now it kicks it off
the ledger going forward, and it also gives them the
chance again to be sort of right in the middle
of that momentum in Germany and trying to get their
brand over there.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
them on Twitter at Albert Brier. All right, So I
got to know, what's the worst game set?
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Have you? How many?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
First of all, I don't know if you've been to
a bunch of international games, but what is the worst
setup for a specialty NFL game that you've ever seen
in person?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
That you go, man, that this was not well thought out?
Speaker 5 (28:26):
You know, I've been to a couple of games at Wembley.
I haven't been to Tattenham, but I've been to a
couple of games at Wembley, and that was I would say.
I would say, like it was just so different, you
know what I mean? Like, I don't think it was bad,
but it was different. I ended the thing with Mexico
and I wasn't at this game, but like, when they
first went back to Mexico, there was like a you know,
(28:49):
they had to put the I think they had to
put the locker rooms like outside the stadium because they
didn't they didn't have like they didn't have locker rooms
in the building of the soccer stadium they could have.
I was a full NFL team, so they built like
external locker rooms. And there was this story and you
guys can look this up of how these guys like
going to the fields in the locker room had to
(29:11):
walk down this really treacherous This is a really treacherous
like concrete like incline and like legitimately, like I hope
I don't get injured walking down the incline going from
the going from the field to the going from the
locker room to the field. So I would say that's
(29:33):
probably the worst one. You know what, Actually I take
that back. The worst one by far was and I'm
gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna see if I can get
this one right. Because it was four years ago the
NFL was celebrating its two hundred it's a hundredth anniversary,
and they were doing they were doing the you know,
(29:55):
I think like putting different training camps in different places
right all over the country. Okay, so the first NFL
game ever was in Dayton, Ohio, and so they wanted
to put the Bengals first practice that year on the
field where the first NFL game was held. So, but
it was like this, this city park right like that
(30:16):
hadn't been well maintained. So the NFL said, you know what,
We're going to go in and we're going to spend
a couple of million dollars and we're going to put
in some beautiful, like putting green level like practice fields here,
and then we're going to donate them to the city.
After well a couple of months before the people that
the city, a couple people raised their hands and said, no,
(30:37):
that's like an old Indian burial ground. And so they
went and they surveyed the land and of course it
was an Indian burial ground, and they shut the whole
thing down. So you can't practice here. But the NFL
was like, well, we still want to make you practice.
We're still going to make you practice in Dayton as
a celebration of this. The Bengals pushed back, They said no, no, no,
(30:59):
you have to do this. So they went to the
University of day stadium. I showed up there on the
first day, on the first Saturday training camp. One of
their coaches came up to me and dug into the
turf and he opened his hand up. There were rocks,
there were like small pieces of glass. It was awful,
and every coach was like, we need to get the
(31:20):
guys like like, and the league office was like stay
out there and like. The horrible thing that that wound
up happening in that day was right. AJ Green got hurt. Right,
the ended his career as a bangle, and I think
you could argue AJ Green was never the same. So
the NFL for this stupid, silly, ridiculous like hundredth anniversaries
(31:46):
celebration that they were so like hell bent on putting
a practice in Dayton, Ohio, and their best play plans
had blown up. They wind up like Jerry rigging the
idea and throwing it into the stadium that didn't like
that wasn't ready for an NFL team and hadn't been maintained.
And a guy winds up, you know, a guy winds
(32:07):
up having his career irrevocably changed. Oh I, I wanted
to say in Mexico. But I would say that the
field day in Ohio is probably the worst.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Because I remember that because I was on the air
with Bucky Brooks here. We were doing a show at
Fox Sports Radio and it was and there was video
that was being shown on television of AJ Green slamming
his helmet on.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
The bench yep.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
And I remember Bucky was making the point like, man,
it's not like AJ Green's got a pattern of behavior
of being a diva wide receiver. Something must have really
pissed him off. And you're right, he was never the same,
Like it was never the same instead.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Knowing you and the reason but the reason he was
ten is because they all saw it coming. Yeah, that's
why he was pissed. You'd be pissed anyway, right, But
like you said, like that's not AJ Green's demeanor, right,
And so like Jay Green was pissed because every Bengals coach,
every Bengals player saw it coming. And Zach Taylor was
(33:08):
the first year coach, and like they tried to get
the league to pull them off a field and the
league forced them to stay out out there, and the
league knew, like, you know, our first year coaching staff
doesn't have the leverage to tell us to go to go,
you know, f ourselves.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
Oh yeah, the whole thing was just a I would say,
like as embarrassing an episode. And and I can remember
driving from Cincinnati to Indianapolis that night, because you know,
I'm on my training kip trip, I'm going from camp
to camp, and I can just you know, remember the
phone calls that I that I had with people and
(33:44):
how pissed they were. And yeah, I mean there's no
question that was the worst.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Before we let you go because we got to live
vicariously through you. Because I've never been to Nantucket, I
have no idea what the hell it's like. So what
is Nantucket for Fourth of July?
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Line?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
What are we looking at for the weekend? What are
the festivities like there for the Brier family?
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Well, so yeah, so we'll do.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
There's a big water fight on main Street. I'm happy
to send you pictures of it. But there's a big
water fight where all the kids get super soakers and
stuff and water balloons, and the fire department brings like
these big antique fire trucks up and these the hoses
on the main street and everyone is just like everybody's
(34:28):
spraying everybody, and yeah, so like there's that on the
morning and then fireworks and all the normal stuff. I
would say, but yeah, man, like it's a it's a
really cool place. It's just we've been coming here for
about a decade now. I would say a huge part
of it for us is that we live so close
(34:49):
and yet it feels so far away. And anybody who
felt the pain of having to travel through airports with children,
oh God, I think would understand me when I say, like,
there is there's absolutely a beauty to packing up your
car and putting it on a fairy knowing when you
unload that car you're gonna be on vacation. You're not
going to be hauling all that crap through like Terminal
(35:11):
D and maybe winding up like Lee the other day.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, that's that's a listen as somebody who's got a
two year old. We drove down to San Diego, which
is like, you know, two and a half hours in
comparison to flying an hour and a half from La
La to Phoenix. It's not even like, not even close
to how much more convenient it is.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
So I can remember, and this is when we had
one kid, right. This is when we were we had won.
Emily was pregnant with our second and we did like
a you know, I don't know, quote unquote baby moon,
and we went down to we went to Repute, which
isn't like a long flight from Boston. It's like an
hour and a half, right, And and I can remember
going through the airport with with uh, with our oldest
(35:56):
who at the time was like a year a year
and change, a year and a half maybe, And I
can remember like feeling like we were like in Armada
going through the airport, and I'm like, and I remember
saying Emily, I'm like, I'm like, do you remember like
two years ago when we would go on vacation and
it's like you and me and like two carry on bags,
(36:16):
and like we're just struggling to get ourselves at the gate.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
You know, it's so bad.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
So I remember it was that experience where I was like,
you know what, like cloading up the car ain't so bad.
You only have to do it once. You don't have
to move, you don't have to keep moving that native
amount of stuff. And when you're there, you're there. So
that's sort of the beauty of this one for us.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I agree well, AB, Happy Fourth July weekend to you
and the fam.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Always appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Get them on Twitter at Albert Brier, Senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB, and a Thursday tradition here on the show,
Let's see.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
It again next week?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
A right, thanks there, he is the great Alba Brier
with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
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