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July 5, 2023 44 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington applaud Joey Chestnut for winning his 16th Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Contest. Josh Allen says the media has blown the Stefon Diggs drama out of proportion but there has to be real frustration with the situation. Petros Papadakis stops by for his weekly visit and gives a history lesson on the Battle of Gettysburg. All that and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and a couple of
Joe with Lamar Rings and Rady Winn and Jonas Knox
on Box Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Did you grill your ass off yesterday or what?

Speaker 3 (00:16):
You know?

Speaker 4 (00:17):
I told you I've been on this whole health kick deal,
so I'm not going to say I grilled my my tail.
I did grill very well. I seasoned some some hot dogs.
I know Q would love that, and and charge Chart
grilled those. They were really good. I did tilapia yesterday,

(00:40):
you know, more mount type of deal.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Didn't go traditional.

Speaker 4 (00:44):
It's only me and the twins here this uh you know,
so far this week, so we didn't go go crazy deep.
We just you know, we hung out. We we ate
food and we chilled out.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
So not a lot of carbs.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm I've been kind of honestly, I've been carb pretty
carb low, very very low carb intake lately, you know,
trying to cut a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Have you heard the I didn't realize because tilapia is
delicious light. Yeah, I actually think it's better than it
tastes better than salmon. Like I'm not a big salmon
I won't go that far. For some reason. I just
I think it tastes better than I don't know what
it is about salmon. I've just never been a fan.
But did you know til appia is like a it's

(01:30):
kind of like a bottom feeder fish. I guess it's I.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Guess you could tell about the way it's shaped. It
kind of has that what is it like? Flounder type?
Look the arm flounders bottom feeders too.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I don't know. Can we get an update on the
bottom feeder fish?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Arm flounders the fish that have the eyes on the
side of their head.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Do they let me look it?

Speaker 2 (01:54):
A catfish is a bottom feeder.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
A catfish is.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I mean, listen, I ca catfish is basically a sewer
rat with gills. That's all it is. I mean, I
don't know anybody that wants to eat catfish discussed.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Catfish is definitely a bottom feeder. You also got halibit.
You do have flounder, uh cod founder? Yeah, bass are
actually bottom feeder snappers, and tilapia is not on there.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
No, somebody told.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Me you're close though with halibit. Halibit you might be
thinking about it.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
That's what it is. Yeah, yeah, but I heard that, you.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Know, But I wouldn't have been surprised if it were,
because it kind of has that type of shape, almost
like a flounder. Once it's fillayed. I don't really know
what it looks. Let me look at what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, but thank you coach.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Anyway, it was.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah, it does look like it does look like well
that is that's a flounder.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
That's why it looks like a flounder. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Anyway, a lot of people say tilapia is a bottom feeder,
but that's not strictly true.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Okay, there we go, Yeah there, you know you come.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
To this show. Lee just said it, Lee just, I mean.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
And votes about. Way's great to hear your voice. Lee
Jonas said it, and that's you know, that's good.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah, cool stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
I mean, listen. Obviously, Lowen Carbs definitely the complete opposite
of La Slob. James Joey Chestnut, who went on to
win another Mustard Belt yesterday. Congratulations to the competitive eater
that is Joey Chestnut. There was there was some talk
they were going to cancel the event because of the

(03:33):
weather issues they were having. There were lightning delays and
all that, but in the end they did complete the
ten minutes of shoveling food in each other's mouths, and
Joey Chestnut finished with sixty two hot dogs eating in
ten minutes, well below the over under that we discussed yesterday,
that was seventy one and a half. But let's listen

(03:54):
to old Laslob James himself Joey Chestnut talk about his performance.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
Are you always looking for the world record or you
just want to win?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, I love to push myself.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
I'm getting older.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know that I'm thirty nine.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
So it's it's great to be able to push new records.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
And know that I can still push my body to
new limits.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Today things got in the way, but I'll be coming back. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
This guy's got an excuse every year. Now, every year
he's got an excuse when there's an underwhelming performance. Last
year it was because somebody stormed the stage and jumped
on stage and he had to put him in a headlock.
This year it was because of the weather conditions. Now
he's thirty nine years old. This is like when remember
when Antonio Tarvor fought Roy Jones the second time and
he said, before the fight, you got you can have

(04:38):
any excuse. Yeah, because it was.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Like choes today, it was all, well.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Roy Jones isn't motivated anymore, and then it was well
he cut down from heavyweight, so losing all that weight
drained his body. And then Antonio Tarvor went and worked
him over and finished him. And it's like every all
of a sudden, now work you over?

Speaker 3 (04:58):
They did? Man, Like that was he did work him over.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
That was devastating. We loved Roy Jones growing up and
to see him get flat back like that, that might
have hurt worse than Tyson getting knocked out.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
You know, I mean the fact that he asked him
if he had any excuses before knocked him out. Oh no,
it wasn't the best. It wasn't the best of moments
for I mean, it was great for boxing, I'll tell
you that, but it wasn't great for Roy.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Oh man, Like that was heartbreaking that, like you live
my kerosely through that guy, Like he could play two
hours of pick up basketball and then go beat somebody
with a body shot and then Antonio Tarber says, you
got any excuses and then just flats him. Oh man,
that was that was rough. But sixty two hot dogs

(05:50):
in ten minutes, I mean, yeah, he's got a lot
of excuses, and it feels like this is the beginning
of the end. At some point within the next five years,
I'm calling my shot, Joey Chess, that's gonna lose. He's
gonna lose, and he's going to fall apart. But I
think the guy who finished in tenth place, if I'm
not mistaken, ate like fifteen hot dogs something like that.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
So that was you was what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
No, Like, how many How long would it take you.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
To eat fifteen hot dogs? I could get fifteen in
ten minutes. Yeah, I could get fifteen hot.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Dogs, fifteen hot dogs and buns and ten.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
No, I couldn't. I couldn't. Yeah, there's not you get
like four.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
I think the most I could eat in a day
was probably four. Like that's the most that I could
do on an entire day.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I could probably get four. I could get.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
Four in ten minutes. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I could probably get more than four. I could get
more than four.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, but you'd feel awful afterwards.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Can't do it.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I'm not sure that they don't feel awful after they
do it. I'm sure Joey chest that feels awful after
he does it.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Who do you think feel worse you after playing an
NFL game or Joey Chessnut this morning?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Man, I don't know, man.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Because he see that's a that's a tough gig. That
is one tough that's a tough gig. Man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Second, Hold on a second, let's go live to Iowa Sam,
who is a medical professional who has a thought on
Joey chess nuts performance. Sam, no I, I So you
would feel awful afterward, no matter what. But if you
were to try, if you're trying to digest sixty some
hot dogs, you'd probably die. A lot of these guys

(07:42):
they just Jesus expel it these things after they win.
They don't, Yeah, they don't. They don't eat it and
digest it and exit it the following day. They they
That's why you look at a lot of their teeth
and they're like weird looking or kind of rotten looking,
like Kobe because yeah, right, So if you've ever seen

(08:05):
like a ble mixed teeth And I know we're getting
a little graphic here, but this is the behind the curtain,
behind the behind the scenes of what these people do.
They train, they will practice, but they did most of
them maybe like the larger guys, they might digest that food.
A lot of these people they expel. It isn't large
enough to be able to.

Speaker 8 (08:23):
Take all of that in and process it and get
it through your system. It's it's really it'd be so
taxing on the body it already is. But what you're
saying is that Johnny Depp is a competitive eater. Yes,
and that would explain his teeth. Yes, that that that
mouthful of cheese whiz he wants.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
And on the big.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
It does all it all fits together.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Now, everything adds up now, So congratulations are an order
for Joey.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
Oh Man.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
By the way, Miki Pseudo, who won her ninth straight
she's the female competitive eater who won, who hit thirty
nine and a half in ten minutes? Hot dogs thirty
nine and a half? Hot dog?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
What is her? What's her name?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Miki Pseudo?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Miki Pseudo? Yeah, I don't know what. My light keeps
going off whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Ricky okay, Mickey Pseudo? Yeah, oh that you're right?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Why am I saying, Miki? What am I doing here?
What am I?

Speaker 3 (09:27):
I think?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
She's Keky vanderw.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Are you not? Are you not going to hit the button?
Why is that? Man? Man?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
You I just I screwed it up a little bit.
Pronunciation the Meky Mickey pseudo, Yeah, because I didn't know
she was named after a beer. What do you want
from me?

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Jeez?

Speaker 4 (09:47):
And she is a Mickey pseudo, So you definitely get
the button for that. The way you tried to say it,
this is.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I feel like you know I'm being attacked here.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
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Speaker 2 (10:10):
So there's a lot of you that are probably heading
back to work today not feeling all that hot. You know,
probably got after it a little bit. How late were
the fireworks going your neck of the woods lebar.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
For a while? Man? Yeah, they were going off for
a while.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
People just don't stop, you know. You know what, I
don't understand.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
You enjoy yourself.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I get it, but it seems like every year there's
an injury, and some of them are catastrophic injuries because
people don't know how to handle fireworks, and yet they
keep lighting them off, like they don't realize if we,
you know, light a rocket launcher next to the entire
box of fireworks that we have near the execs.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
Set off the other ones.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yes, all of them go off. The cars go off,
like there's this video like somebody on their.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Ring said to you, did you send that to you?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Okay, we're the baby without in the little like jumper
and everybody was chilling and they lit them and they
had them like it. There was a little malfunction. The
spark hit hit the all of the box. It like
hit the box that was in the back of the truck.
Then it started shooting like it looked like bullets. They

(11:17):
was grabbing them kids up and they was getting out
of the way like it was bullets coming up off
of that. Then then let it let the whole back
into that truck up and it looked like well they
say this is a bay root.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
It looked like bay root out boy.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Like, I don't I don't understand every year there's a
problem like this, Like every year something like that pops up,
like and I never understood when I was younger, I
got why are fireworks out lowed in certain places? Like
growing up like fireworks were banned.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
You had to go to blow your own ass up
and somebody else's.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
So they used to we, uh, we're out here in
southern California that you don't have to drive this place
called Fillmore and it was like the only place nearby.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
But they you are.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
You are a class night, a class act through and through.
Can we get round of applause for the broadcast professional
that is lebar Arrington?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
What a rock.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
R and his brother Seymour.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yes, yes, but you know you don't have another.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
You ought to be a shave, but you'd have to
drive to Fillmore no last name given if you wanted
to buy fireworks, And I never understood it. Then you
get older and you see all these people, you know,
blowing limbs off because they want to. They want to
pretend like they're they're explosives. Yes, hell yeah, I just

(12:54):
I don't understand that. What was.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
And what was?

Speaker 8 (13:08):
I think it's called It's from the Pope of Greenwich Village,
an old movie.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Anthony Gargano got me turned on too.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
That.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Okay, well listen love me, Samarica.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I've never had any type of I haven't never had
any type of interest in doing the furthest I got
along with sparklers and the little the little caps and
the little little boxes that you throw at people's feet
or you throw.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
It at them and it pops. You know. That's that's
about it.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
What about the spinners, remember those little spins? Leave that alone,
by the way, Leave that just I know what you
want to say.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Leave that alone. You're not going to say anything. I'm
not going to say anything.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
You know, the spinner fireworks where they would go on
the ground and go.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I found out. I found out that upside down pineapples.
Pineapples had something to do with spinners. I didn't even
know that had I had a close and tell me
that that spinners, you know, and pineapples are are connected.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
That's I see. I wasn't aware of that. I'm glad
that we cleared that up here. As we continue on,
I don't get it down what they said, look it up.
You are unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I don't know what you're talking.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
About, Thank you, coach. I don't either. At least they'll
claim my note.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
All right, so.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
You're off and run of an hour three of this
program here. All right, So let's let's talk about somebody
who's trying to I don't know if they're making excuses
or trying to defend an entire group, but Josh Allen
is the starting quarterback of the Buffalo Bills. The big
story out of Buffalo is the Stefan Diggs drama which
played out in the playoff game last year, where he

(14:49):
tried to leave the locker room before coaches arrived and
he was certainly he got talked back into coming back,
and then he was upset on the sidelines before that,
and then there's just been this weird, so sort of
passive aggressive Twitter behavior by Stefan Diggs, and he shows
up to mini camp and he may have gotten sent
home and may have not gotten sent home, and then
he goes to social media again. And then you've got

(15:11):
Josh Allen having to speak and say he loves Stefan Diggs.
And then you got Sean McDermott talking about being concerned
like the whole thing has been a disaster, just total chaos. Well,
Josh Allen was on the Busting with the Boys podcast
and was asked about the Stefan Diggs drama and according
to him, blown way out of proportion.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
I love him, that's my guy. What the media has
blown this so far out of proportion. Right, Like we
are in rookie or mini camp. We're not playing a
game for four months. He doesn't show up. One day,
he's still there, you know, coach asked him to go home.
We're in talks and discussions of trying to resolve some
things and it wasn't anything major and media blew it
up and they're still talking about it.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Let it go. Let it go.

Speaker 7 (15:51):
There's no reason to continue talking about it. He's on
the field with us the next day, you know where
it was not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
So that's Josh Allen talking about the Stefan Diggs drama.
And I would agree that normally some of this stuff
in the off season is blown out of proportion because
it's the off season and we'd rather talk about this
than than where Damian Lillard might get traded to. But
this thing's gone on for four or five months, and
still there was an issue four or five months later

(16:18):
after the outburst on the sideline, so much so that
they had to have a conversation.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Like Carson Wentz's neck, Yes, like.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Carson Wentz's neck, which looks like he laid down on
a couple of Sparkler. Yeah, like this idea that this
is just not nothing and it's blown out of proportion. Dude,
you guys had an issue in a playoff game that
you were getting waxed in, and then four or five
months later he shows back up after airing people out
on social media in a passive aggressive way, and there's

(16:48):
so much of an issue that he goes home. The
coach is concerned and then says he's not concerned. Then
you've got Stefan Diggs going to social media afterwards, You've
got everybody having to talk about the reason it's a
problem is because we haven't gotten a clear understanding as
to what happened, and Stefan Diggs has still got a
red ass about it.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
I think we're clear on it. If you ask, if you,
I mean to me, he's a receiver. I think he
got three catches in that last game. I want to
say it's something crazy.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
I think it was four for like thirty something yards.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
It was something crazy.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
I mean it was it was not becoming of someone
who's supposed to be your your your number one guy.
Whenever you have scenarios where a player is in a
happy place and the coach is in a happy place

(17:48):
and there is continuity and there is cohesiveness, and that's disrupted,
and it's disrupted to the point of where the success
level of not only that player, but the team goes down.
Then you're going to see certain people who are supreme

(18:11):
competitors react a certain type of way. And generally the
positions that do it are quarterback, receivers, and possibly corners.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Not linebackers. You would know they.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Won't get that from LB's we don't matter enough. Come on,
we don't matter enough. So but you're not getting something
that is out of the ordinary for that position group.
He's reacting to the fact that he wasn't getting targeted more.
You're not putting him in in positions to succeed at

(18:47):
his position, and that's very upsetting and and he's making
it known. And I guess they he didn't feel as
though they did anything to change it when he got back.
I mean, that's what I would assume, because to me,
if we go out of the season and we go
out of the season feeling as though my offensive coordinator

(19:11):
or this offense did nothing to maximize my connection with
my quarterback, and my quarterback didn't do enough as he
admitted right, he admitted it that he could have did
more to help the situation. To me, that means he
could have gave the ball to Stefan Diggs more than

(19:32):
what he did versus what would ended up happening. And
it doesn't seemingly look as though it's going to change
going into the next season. I mean, think about that, man,
that would be upsetting to know that you're heading into
a season where on average you could be getting three

(19:53):
balls in the game for thirty sixty some yards.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, but that wasn't the norm last year. He caught
one hundred eight passes.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Yeah, but it was the last thing that took place.
See to me, that says that says that's your you're
trending in that direction. If you're not going to give
the ball to your best player in the biggest game
of the year, then what makes you think that it's
going to change.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
If they're not telling.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
You, like if they're saying we're staying the course, and
you feel as though for some strange reason they're giving
you reasoning, that does not say definitively that they're going
to change their approach. This could be the defenses that
are used against Buffalo from the rest.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Of the way.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
That's how this league works. People are going to study
that last game. People are going to study the teams
that had success, and they're going to implement those same
type of defensive schemes to slow down Josh Allen to
frustrate Stefan Diggs.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
That's frustrating.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
If you got to go an entire season of being
in that type of situation knowing that it's probably not
going to change, you're going to have a lot of
feelings towards it because.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know what. You know who they're going to come after.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
When when Stefon Diggs only catches three balls and gets
thirty some yards, you know who the.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Fans are coming after Diggs. They're coming after him.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
You know when they talk about contract extensions and getting
a new contract or renewals and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh he's not worth it. Oh look at his production.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Well what if that man's production isn't its production because
of something outside of his control? That has to be
considered to be frustrating, inflammatory, upsetting, concerning, disappointing. And I
think that that's what's going on because their defense hasn't
been the same either.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
And the point is it's not nothing like this is
this is a storyline, this it is something.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah, of course, and so I don't know that they're
going to be good again, Jonas.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I agree. Look I'm with you on that. And that's
why when Josh Allen makes those comments and kind of
dismisses it as, oh, it's not that big, that big
of a deal. He showed up the next day of practice, Dude,
you canceled the remainder of mini camp. He showed up
to go through walkthroughs, and you canceled the remainder of
mini camp. And to your point, it's persisted for four
or five months. So how do you just dismiss that

(22:21):
if he's the best wide receiver you got and he's
still got an issue, And as Josh Allen kind of
alluded to, there's clearly an issue between him and Sean McDermott.
And then the bills come out shortly after that and
announce the contract extensions for Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean,
you got to wonder how Stefan Diggs looks at that.
So wait a second, I've got a problem here with

(22:42):
sort of the dynamic between my coach and I and
now we want to go out and announce contract extensions
for everybody.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
For someone that I don't feel good about, right, and
let me think about it.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
And I just so the idea that Josh Allen says, oh,
this is no big deal whatsoever if it's not white,
it lasts for four or five months, you know, like
it's just come on, dude.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
It's not This is not made up, right.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
What happened at the facility happened, Like that's not fictitious, Like, oh,
why are y'all still talking about it?

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Because it happened.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
And you're a big name player and the guy that's
upset is a big name player.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
In fact, I.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Would be curious as to what Josh Allen really feels
behind closed doors because he's been impacted by it as well.
He's been impacted by it as well. And this doesn't
look like a team with the way they called that
game in their last game, that is going to be

(23:42):
a cream of the crop, elite team in the AFC.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
It just doesn't. I just don't see it.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I think they'll be competitive, I think that they'll win games,
but to consider them like we did as favorites, that
window may have closed.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, No, I agree, and look, the Jets got better
with Rogers if to his healthy, Miami played them well
last year. As we've talked about, like it just I
don't know. I think it's one of those cases where
there's just certain fights that last longer than others. And
if you leave the house to get away because like
I got to blow off some steam and you come
back and everybody's still pissed off after the right But yeah,

(24:22):
like there's a lasting impact to whatever they're right in there.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, And I'm telling you it's the it's the change factor.
It's like when you see something because here's the thing, right,
sometimes players are are not respected in the way where
their their opinions matter. Like I know that this is
not right, so I'm saying it's not right, But then

(24:46):
you still are doing it.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
You're still doing it, Like this person is in position.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
I'm trying to tell you, I may know more than
this coach that you have on staff, all to think
the nerve of a player to think that he may
know as much, if not more, or understand some of
the things that are connected to it. And now your discruntle,
Now you're not coachable. Now you're all these different things

(25:13):
but in the end you're talking about a coach that
just isn't good enough, and that happens quite a bit,
and that's frustrating.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
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Speaker 9 (25:33):
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Speaker 2 (26:02):
Right now, we turn it over to Petros Papadakas. He
is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch AM five to
seventy LA Sports. He's also a Moxy college football analyst.
Pee what's happening? Happy post? Fourth of July? How we feeling?

Speaker 6 (26:18):
Good morning? Hello, I'm Okay.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I guess you get banged up at all yesterday or no.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
Not really.

Speaker 10 (26:25):
I mean I had a couple of Margarita's at a
neighborhood party.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Nice.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
What's your flavor of choice in Margarita's.

Speaker 10 (26:32):
Oh, I don't know, it's just you know, there was
a table with a thing and a bottle of tequila.
You know, I wasn't I don't really have one. I
normally don't drink them because the indigestion. If I drink tequila,
I just drink maybe with some soda water or something.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
But yeah, that's all. It wasn't that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
I laid really low all weekend. I watched mostly.

Speaker 10 (26:56):
I watched because of the one hundred and sixtieth Anniverse.
I watched a ton of Gettysburg stuff. Oh yeah, which
is actually I think pronounced Gettisburg because it's named after
a guy named Gettis the town, but we say Gettysburg
because it sounds more regal that way because so many
people died there in one of the most important battles

(27:19):
in the history of the Western world, if not the
most important, and it just celebrated at it one hundred
and sixtieth birthday. I don't know if you'd call it
a celebration, kind of a somber thing, but also a
lot of interest, a lot of morbid interests, and a
lot of just crazy circumstance if you think about what

(27:40):
happened there and how it happened and why it happened
and that kind of stuff. So I spent most of
my weekend doing yoga and watching Gettysburg stuff.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Have you ever been there? No?

Speaker 10 (27:52):
I don't go anywhere, as you know, unless there's a
football game to call. I used to travel internationally with
my wife once we had kids.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
That stopped and we don't. We don't. We don't go anywhere.

Speaker 10 (28:06):
We go to La Joya, you know, you know, it's
like we went to OHI very exotic.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
So, uh, I don't understand the people that do the
they go to the reenactments. It's kind of weird, you know.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
I never used to. My cousin was one of those guys.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
But I get it, you know, I get it to
kind of throw yourself into a different time and into
a different circumstance. And I mean, why would I want
to be in a real civil war camp? Like none
of this stuff you would ever want to do for real,
like none of it. It is for every one guy
that died from a bullet in the Silver War Civil War,

(28:47):
three others I think died from disease. And because in
the prison camps and just the camps, like let's make it.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
College football relatable. Okay, uh?

Speaker 10 (28:59):
Camp Randall is a real place right where Wisconsin has
their facility A Camp Randall used to be a training
ground for Union soldiers in Wisconsin, obviously, and when they
all went to war, it then became and the farm
boys were the ones that died first because they had
never been around a bunch of people before, which is sad.

(29:21):
But when the Union soldiers went to fight, then it
became a prison camp for Confederate soldiers. And then inevitably
the winter came and they almost all died, and now
it's a burial ground.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
For Confederate soldiers.

Speaker 10 (29:38):
And then somehow, somewhere around eighteen eighty they sold the
land to the university or the state or whatever, and
they built the stadium and the gym there.

Speaker 6 (29:51):
Not on the graves, there's a separate say right over
top of them.

Speaker 10 (29:54):
No, no, it's not like a Poultergeist, but or the
meta lands with Hofa. But uh but that's the that's
Camp Randall. Like you wonder why it's called Camp Randall,
Well that's why. It was a military camp and then
it was a then it was a prison, and then
it became a cemetery. Uh so uh, just really interesting

(30:19):
history on what people thought was going to happen in
the Civil War and what actually happened. Just people getting mode,
like incontrollably because of the advancements in in firearms, but
not really a lot of advancements in strategy as far
as just lining up and getting bolowed with your boys.
So very uh, just very interesting stuff to me.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yes, well look at you, P. I don't know you
were that. You're that well read in that you know,
into all that Civil war.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
He was major with a minor in Russian literature.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Jonas okay, like I normally he's passionate about obviously you know.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
He loves former athletes. You know our IQ levels into
into question. You know, That's why that's why they had
all of us, you know, No, no Jonas Jonas.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Were all idiots, dragging trot.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
That's why the call is called two pros and a joe,
Like we need the joe to make sure that he's
you know, making sure that everybody.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
The stupid athletes and there you go, reckless. I get
that from my boss. I get that from my boss
and my radio partner Lie. You gotta be there to
really be. He starts talking about Stonewall Jackson, who was
dead for Gettysburg.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
He wasn't there. What what boss was that? What boss
was that you were talking about? Mark?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Hey, I did, I did remember in I think it
was seventh grade English, even social studies they called it,
but I remember them saying Stonewall Jocks Jackson was kind
of he was kind of a weirdo in that he
would always take even in the dead of winter, you
would take ice c old showers just to prepare himself
for what he had to do that day.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Well, he was a weightlifter. Before weightlifting there something other
than ice culture.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Yeah, but like you could heat him up with a.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Five seat But did they even have sours back then?

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Well, but now, like you's so ahead of his time
because you know the ice plunge and the the cold
tub treatment and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
I've spent that interesting.

Speaker 10 (32:20):
Since we want to change the subject, I mean, we
could talk about Jeb Stewart or General Longstreet. We could
talk about any of them dudes on either side.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
But yeah, you know, I'm a black man on this
on his interview by the way, you know, let's not
get too carried away about Gettysburg.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
In that fight and all that. I mean, we won,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
But that's the thing, though, LeVar, Will y'all get carried
away and forget I'm on his radio show, which.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Could I ever forget? But think about it like this, LeVar.

Speaker 10 (32:49):
This was the only time in the history of the
war that the Army of Northern Virginia, which was Robert E.
Lee's army, came up and then turned. They were attacking south, right,
They were attacking from the north, and the north was
defending from the south. And there's nothing between Gettysburg and

(33:10):
the army. If they don't stop them there, they just
march right to Washington, DC, and we have a different
country because they would have had gotten their way, and
they would have gotten their secession, they would have gotten
their treaty. Other people also say if Lincoln had or
whatever the Mead, General Meade, the guy who was in

(33:31):
charge at Gettysburg. They say, well, what if he pursued
the army and just wiped him out right there the
south because the war went on for two more years
after that. Would they have ever had the emancipation Proclamation?
Would he have ever done that to garner favor from
the European countries and get them away from the.

Speaker 6 (33:52):
South side England and France.

Speaker 10 (33:54):
So it's really interesting and complicated stuff like That's why
I find it very interesting, the history involved.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
I don't think it's good to run from history.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah, you shouldn't run from it. You should definitely know it.
They give you a chance.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
We clearly don't have enough people to understand history these days,
you know.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Or civics revisionists.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
But anyways, that's that's that's so deep and thank you
guys for that history lesson.

Speaker 10 (34:21):
Well that's what I did over the weekend. But we
can't talk about cold plunge tubs.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Like Stonewall Jackson was ahead of his time.

Speaker 10 (34:28):
Well, I think the cold plunge tub thing is interesting
because people like especially in this neighborhood, are are spending
like ten thousand bucks on these really complicated machines. Yeah,
and it's like, you know, like that swimming thing that
the guy would swim into Remember Roddy Gaines is swimming
thing they used to advertise late at night where you

(34:49):
would like remember that chamber for the chamber that burnt
AB's feet, you know, yeah, well the cryo chambers.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, those things are still very popular. That's more like this.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
You know that was that was a originated by Harrison Ford,
you know what I mean, like when he was in
the ice. You know what I mean? That was carbonite carbonyke. Yeah,
there you go, there you go.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
I mean for a moment, your sight will return in time.

Speaker 10 (35:17):
It's it's funny because people are spending all this money
on these cold plunge things, and it's like, I mean,
all they have to do is go to football camp,
buy yourself a rubber a rubber trash can and a
big you know, a bunch of bags of ice, and
get your hose out.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
And you know, you don't have to spend the ten
thousand bulls there.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
You go to one.

Speaker 10 (35:38):
Hundred bucks, I mean, you know, ninety bucks and you've
got your cold plunge dub and all you need is
ice and a hose.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
You go to hell week. Yeah, I mean that's basically
it's not any different.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
The heaviest lift is the ice. That's it.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's all you gotta do is not be lazy enough
to not get the ice. You just got the ice
in there.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
Yeah, take always get that on the way home at
the liquor store while you're you go, pet that you
can drink in the ice bat There you go.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Hey, Petros. Are you impressed with Joey Chestnut we're calling
him laslov James. Are you impressed with his performance shoving
hot dogs in his throat sixty two to ten minutes.

Speaker 10 (36:10):
Well, I don't want to get to loose because my
radio producer Tim Kates loves Joey Chestnut.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
From his Tony Bruno days.

Speaker 10 (36:18):
He used to bring him on once a Beautiful Man,
once a week for like a month during this time
of year. The competitive eating thing is interesting, you know,
And I've seen a documentary on it, or parts of
a documentary on it an ESPN where some of them
are kind of ashamed.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
That this is like how they make it out of it.
They they don't like telling people like they're prostitutes. Kinda yeah,
what do you do?

Speaker 10 (36:45):
I'm a toot. No, It is kind of weird, right like,
and it does feel excessive, but I mean if you
really get down to it, what are we doing when
we're playing football? I mean we're put plastic outfits on
and run into each other for no reason and scream
at the top of our lungs.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
You know, you went off sides.

Speaker 10 (37:07):
You know, like if you really go down, you know,
if you kind of strip that down. It feels kind
of dumb. Uh and probably a lot less safe than
just sitting there and eating a lot of hot dogs.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (37:18):
None of the competitive eaters are fat, it's weird, or
some of them are, maybe, but none of the guys
who really win every year. Remember Koba Yashi, Yeah, and
those guys usual suspects Yeah, no that yeah, Koba Yashi yeah,
uh and Redfoot usually. I believe Kobayashi was played by

(37:41):
Peter postelwait great actor, one of the great actors who
played the uh the Priest and Romeo and Juliet's the
remake with Leonardo DiCaprio and Claire Days.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
I think he was also the florist in the Den.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Nobody Needs the Top.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, but uh yeah, I H.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (38:03):
It grosses me out to watch it, right, but it
seems like a great American tradition that some people are
into like I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
I don't want to.

Speaker 10 (38:13):
You know, I didn't show up at El Traffico at
the Rose Bully. That doesn't mean like I don't think
it should.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Happen, so Iowa sam Our, a technical producer. Pete was
saying that they don't keep that food down. Sam, you're saying,
so they just go out and they blow chunks right after.

Speaker 6 (38:28):
Right, they know how to avoid their bowels.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
Yes, especially like the skinny competitive eaters, like some of
these bigger guys, maybe they digest all that food, but the.

Speaker 6 (38:36):
Skinny guys to hold it down for.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Then once they win, they go out, but they.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Have to hold it after the victory for a half hour.

Speaker 8 (38:43):
Okay, okay, well finally half hour later than they exit
the building to.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Speak, it's nasty man, And that's why Sam was saying,
that's why a lot of them have like kind of
rotting the teeth, like Johnny depp teeth because they math.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
Mouthy George Washington teeth since we were doing history lessons.

Speaker 10 (39:00):
On George Washington's teeth were not wood, No everybody thinks
they were. Would they were not wood? Were they they were?
There was someone else's teeth.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Oh yeah, they were someone else's teeth, that's it. And
from from somebody who was a local, Yes, yes.

Speaker 10 (39:15):
From not sure, but some of the way teeth were
moved and sold in those days, I'm sure many.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
People would not find savory today.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
His dentures were from local allegedly.

Speaker 10 (39:28):
Yeah, okay, but that's how Yeah, that's how they built
teeth back then.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
People would sell their teeth those that were desperate.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Dang damn.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
I feel guilty for having veneers.

Speaker 6 (39:40):
They do look beautiful. You look like Freddy Freeman.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Mouthful of toilet lids.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Did you say Freddie Mercury.

Speaker 10 (39:47):
No, yeah, Freddy Mercury had big ass teeth too, But
they were overplayed by that guy on the Queen movie.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
It definitely was overplay, but it was entertaining though.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
You can get them on Twitter at the old p
I feel like we got a lot done on the
sports landscape today.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
We really I told you guys about Camp Randall.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Yeah, Gettysburg Camp Randall.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Well, and before we visited Gettysburg LeVar, I have plenty
of times, and we have a college there. Yes, they
the Bullets. They used to hold a five star basketball
camp there. Every single metro camp was there every single year.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
So did you walk around out there and all that.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, absolutely, a little round.

Speaker 10 (40:28):
Top and the and the peach orchard. We have a
cemetery hill.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Wait, we have a studies program that purely you know,
that's what they do is focus in on all of
the artifacts and getting all of the stories and the
facts correct about Gettysburg and what took place in the battle.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
So still a lot of confusion.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yeah, there is the.

Speaker 6 (40:52):
Reason that it happened there.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
People say it was because of like shoes or like
a shoe factory or whatever. The reason that battle happened
there because there's like ten roads that all meet there,
and if you think about it back then, it's like
it's really hard to move seventy thousand dudes without CBS
and you know, all that moving an army and they
ended up all at the same place because all the

(41:15):
roads basically kind of led to It looks like a
wagon wheel if you look at it on a map.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
I would love to visit that LeVar, to visit it
with it.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
If you got me, know, we'll do it together, all right.
I would like a few people around those parts, you know.

Speaker 10 (41:29):
But you're supposed to do it you know when the
battle happened or around that time of year, because if not,
it looks like a different you know, in the winter,
it's a different place.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
And you got to dress up, just don't shower and
walk row the musket.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
Yeah, I don't know about all that.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (41:41):
And for us to have that in Sampedro, they would
do like a big reenactment that they'd let all the
guys from all the wars reenact all together. So you
have like Roman soldiers and like World War One guys, and.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Like ybody should be mentioned, anybody, what's with the gun?
It should be mentioned that as Iowa Sam said to
me in my air, Uh, it was where uh coach
coach took uh the T C. Williams football team, uh

(42:14):
for training camp. As as people know the movie, remember
the Titans, and when they were all in that whole
racial you know, divide. He took them into the woods
and took them to the battle ground of where the
battle supposedly took place and where all those people perished.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
Basically somewhere in the South.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
What's that?

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Did they go to Gettysburg in the movie.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
They went to Gettysburgh. I saw it from Virginia. I
forgot from Virginia.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
So from Virginia is yeah, Virginia is like the halfway
point of Pittsburgh, Well p A and and uh in
d C. So that's that's that's big. It's a It's
like one of the biggest rest areas.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Breezewood is the area. It's called. You go through Breezwood
to get to Gettysburg County. Yeah, there go.

Speaker 6 (43:01):
So I don't remember that part in the movie. I
got to look at it. I got it. I saw
that movie with the football whether I was playing at
s CE.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
So it was when he took them.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
It was when he took them to camp to get
them away from their parents, and they they went to
the college. I believe they were at Gettysburg College too,
and they stayed in the dorms and they practiced there
and then they were getting into it, and then he
took them in and took him for a run in
the night and told him the story. So yeah, that
that was Gettysburg. He told him about the battle.

Speaker 6 (43:33):
That's where we used to that have camp.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Who needs an ant eater, you know, No.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
I would.

Speaker 10 (43:37):
I would encourage everybody to look up the history because
we just had the anniversary, and if you live in
this country, it's very interesting to remember what happened and
why and who was involved. And you know how things
are are crazy. I mean, the world is a crazy place.
It always has been.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Get them on Twitter at the old p Petros Papadakis
always kind enough to join us here every single Wednesday.
Petros will do it again next week.

Speaker 6 (44:02):
Man, yes, sir, all right guy.

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