July 7, 2023 • 46 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, so of course Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington start with the slap heard around the world, Victor Wembanyama’s security guard hitting Britney Spears. Future Hall of Famer, Bills OLB Von Miller joins the guys to talk about Pennington's #FlipTheTurf campaign to make all NFL stadiums use natural grass. The guys question whether or not Andy Reid makes a case for greatest football coach of all time. All that and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar Arrington and Brady Winn and Jonas Knox
on Boorts Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here? Lebar Arrington? What's
going on?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I mean, you can't feel any better on a day
like today, That's all I'll say.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, why is that? Is there something special going on today?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I mean I think I think you know why that is.
I think you understand why that is. And I think
everyone out there that's listening is a part of understanding
why that is.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Because it's a football Friday.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, all right, Friday, Jay, Football Friday.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
It's okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
He is a football Friday here on Fox Sports Radio.
Just a three hour extravaganza filled with football talk. And
of course when you're talking football, you've got a lead
with Victor Webbergnona security guard potentially assaulting Britney Spears. That
was the big story.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
What a the four finger state to the face.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's done a new slap can I It's like every
time you feel like the NBA has got a real opportunity,
they got something, They've really started to pick up some momentum.
You got this Damian Lillard Trade and then this pops off.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
You just go slap Britney in the face.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And look, we're not laughing at the fact that a
woman may have gotten slapped by a security guard. The
part that there's so many layers to the whole story
that are weird to me. So they're outside a restaurant
in Las Vegas. Obviously the summer League is going on.
There Catch restaurant in Las Vegas. I thought there was
only one in LA but apparently there's Mulden.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, there's there's I mean the original was in New York,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh really, yeah, huh well, I mean a point being.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
There at high profile place.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's what I heard, and so you know it's not
a place I would ever be seen. Could you imagine
if I pulled up in my Sandford and Sun truck
at Catch restaurant? What do you think that was?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That jump would be kind of funny if you was,
especially if you was vat lane, which you would probably
need the valet it so that would be interested.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The valet would go, oh no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
No, are you on the list? Sir?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Excuse me, sir? Are you also a valet? But yeah,
so you want me to part this. So the So
apparently she recognized Victor Webernona.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You have an advertizer tonight, sir.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Sir, dumpsters are out back. So apparently Britney Spears recognizes
Victor Webman Yama.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean he's yeah, and don't figure. I'm sure everybody
was recognized.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, it's not like she probably thought that was a
horse jockey. She just kind of thought, Okay, this is
a celebrity. I know he is. Well, I don't know
if they got that far. But the point is, I
look the words right out of my mouth. But the
point is I was thinking the same thing. Matter up.
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The point is she sees Victor Webman Yama. He's with
his security guards, and she walks up to him and
apparently is talking in a British accent and is saying,
excuse me, sir, excuse me, sir, which I don't understand.
What's with the British accent. I don't get it. And
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apparently she went to put her hand on his shoulder
and one of the security guards struck her. Now there's
conflicting reports. Somebody from web Minyama's camp says that he
apparently hit her hand in her hand hit her own face.
There's a eyewitness who talked to TMZ who said, no,
he clearly struck her, knocked her glasses off. She then
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was heard screaming this is America in a British accent.
Maybe still, I don't know if she was method acting
and kept with the British accent the whole time. But
the point is, right when the NBA feels like they've
got the next big thing, something weird happens, and it
reminds me of the last time the NBA had the
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next big thing. It was Zion Williamson and Zion Whimson
was in Vegas for the Summer League and an earthquake
hit Las Vegas that night. So it just feels like,
and I'm not making that a little legitimate earthquake, it
just feels like the NBA can't get out of its
own way sometimes, just pure chaos there at Catch restaurant.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, it sounds like a very very curious story
for the simple fact that Wombanyana has been tall his
entire life. He has been climbing.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
The ladder to get to where he is for a very.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Long time, and then now he's a draft pick and
he's out to eat, and and and low. Behold the
one name, one of the one of the few names
that would ever be on a list a short list
of people that might be seeking attention. Is connected to
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Victor Wimbanyana having a trying to enjoy a peaceful meal
while he's, oh, by the way, getting getting acclimated to
being an NBA player in the summer league. Yeah, just
it just when you when I when I saw the story,
I just immediately thought to myself, it can only be
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Britney Spears, and it could only be a couple other
names that would be on a list of Mariah Mills.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's that's true.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm just saying there could only be a few people
that would want to seek the attention of approaching the
number one overall draft pick and then doing the shenanigans
that led to her wanting to call or calling the
cops to to assist her.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
U now and in a British accent, no less, you know,
because you got it. That's that's a key element to
the story. A British accent.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean, if I'm if I'm the law enforcement, I
show up, and I show up just so I can
get Victor Winbyana's autograph or or a little selfie photo
or something like that. And then I look at Britney
Spears and I say, miss miss Spears, we're going to
have to.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Escort you off of the property.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
He's you can't have this, this young man feeling like
this is the way it's going to be here in America.
That's just not the way we do things around here.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And so do you still have the outfit from the
toxic video?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And if you do, burn it because nobody wants to
see you in it today. So let's just be let's
just be real here. There's just a couple of people
that I know you sat there and you said, oh,
we're not laughing. I heard getting mashed in the hit
and doing this. But I'm just being honest. I don't
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condone a woman being being assaulted, being being handled aggressively.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't look at that as being tolerable at all.
If there's one moment where you see a story and
you say that thats ain't happened that way, it's this one.
It's this one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's very weird, man. It's just this is the this
is par for the course NBA fodder like this, like
the like this is typical drama, got nothing to do
with basketball, and the NBA finds themselves wrapped up in it.
It's like the Zion Mariah Mills. It's like all the
other stuff that goes on, just the passive aggressive social
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media post Jahn Morant using a gun lighter to try
and scare people and then continuing, so you're.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Still gonna maintain that it's a gun lighter.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, I mean he did light some candles. I mean
we did. We did see, you know, have evidence of that.
There was a video that made it. Now the gun
in the in the video, I'm not quite sure, you know.
And I don't want to be reckless here and say
that was like a hand cannon. I mean, it could
have been a gun lighter. You know, I'm gonna trust
Ja Moran. He's been so honest and forthcoming with everything
so far, so you know, I'm gonna go ahead and
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trust him for you know, the way he's handled everything.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Again, I venture out to say, why, like, why would
anybody lean on that if he pulled that out in
a near and started doing what he was doing for
his for his uh, you know, for the social media,
for the gram.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
For the talk it ends poorly.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Okay, so what are we even talking about here?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Look Aldon Smith yield bomb at Lax as a joke
and they did not take that as a joke like
they they made sure to let him know, Yeah that's
that's not funny, and he was arrested for it. So yeah,
it's just a wild, wild, you know, case of the
NBA and Britney Spears and British accents. Maybe she did.
(09:37):
Do you think she thought that Victor Webinamo was British
and maybe that's why she did the British accent.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
That might be what it is because he is from overseas.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, but I mean, you know, France England feels like
a big difference.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I mean, but it might not be a big difference,
you know what I mean, Like, she's traveled the world.
So whoever says she did it in a British accent
instead of a French, French accent or French, I mean,
French is a different language. I mean you're speaking a
different language. But nonetheless, Britney Spears is a world travel person,
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like she has been around the globe, uh performing, So
in that moment, she wanted to sound like she was
French so she could relate to him, but with English
involved in trying to sound French.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, and it makes all the sense in the world.
By the way, you keep talking, you keep talking about
Victor webban Yama. Yeah, I feel like with you discussing it,
you're kind of leaving out you know something that you
drive a gem. You dropped on the show a couple
of weeks ago, and we talked about Victor.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Webanyama, what about them?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I think there was like a song you know
that you you did with his last name. I'm not mistaken,
some sort of.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Mom no, no, no, no, she could cool man Yama
with my.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
She could cool me.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Why oh man? How about wemby huh? By the way,
racis this is a that that's a fair point. I
didn't do it. I want to, but you man, you
know you tell like a big, big, big opening weekend
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for Victor webbin Yama. Some would call the human wind
puppet who all of a sudden finds himself the center
of attention, and maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Or Britney Spears finds herself the center of attention with
something associated with Victor.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Go figure, It's just unbelievable. Go figure. Man.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
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Speaker 2 (12:14):
Right now, we welcome in a Super Bowl champion, a
two time Super Bowl champion, a Super Bowl MVP, and
a future Hall of Famer, the one and only Von
Miller with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Vaughn, Good morning,
Thanks for hanging out with us here on a Friday morning.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
How do you guys? Good morning. I appreciate How did sir?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
How you doing, sir?
Speaker 7 (12:37):
I'm doing pretty good. It's early, but I'm good man.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah, where you Where are you at in the world.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
I'm I'm in Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Right we're in California. Playboy, we got.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We got we got your early Trump by about a
little bit of time. But we appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Man. How is your health? How how are you feeling
right now?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I'm in a great spot. I'm recovering from my from
my aco. I'm about seven and a half months out.
You know, as I as I get older, you know,
you know, injury is going to happen. You've got to
be you got to be healthy of top. You know, mentally,
I'm in a great spot. I got two beautiful young boys,
and you know football is secondary. I'm in a good
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spot mentally, and you know the body will follow.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Don I got to ask you, so, what is for
people out there that you know, maybe have accomplished something
that You've obviously accomplished everything you could possibly want in
an NFL career. If you're retired right now, first ballot
Hall of Famer. I don't think anybody argues against that.
But if you had any advice for anybody out there
on how to stay motivated even after all the success
and everything on the resume, what would it be.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
You know, football is a very, very tough sport. It's
not easy. You just can't, you know, roll out of
bed and do it well. Some some people can't. But
you know, it is a it is a tough, demanding,
challenging sport. I always try to tell the young guys
you got to have purpose and intention when you come
out here to practice every single day. You got to
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have purpose. You got to have intention. You know, you
can go through the motions in college, you can go
through the motions in high school, but at the professional
level it is just so demanding. I always try to
have gud I have guys, we break the huddle before
practice always about purpose, intention and intention. When we come
out here, we have a purpose and we got to
practice with intention. So what that man said is you
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got to you gotta really focus on the main thing.
You got to have your why in order if you
if you don't have a why why, your wife is
your reason why. You come up here every single day
and listen to coaches yell at you go through hours
of seem and wait room and and and practice. You
got to really have your why in order to be
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successful at this level.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
M I've always wanted to add ask you this question.
I mean, there's a few guys the Marcus I would
would love to ask him to his question the same question.
You know, when I was coming out, I was I
was a linebacker, but I passed rushed at times. Now,
(15:16):
more often than not, I'm probably doing things that a
linebacker does versus what a three to FOURD linebacker would
do outside backer or a d end that's standing up
would be doing. And I know you've gotten this question
a ton of times you're known for doing the like
you've got some of the dopest pass rush moves. You're
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known as as a pass rusher in a lot of
different ways, even though you can play linebacker and have
played linebacker. What like what constitutes if you're you're considered
to be a defensive end or a pass rushing backer
versus being just a regular backer?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Wait? What do you look at yourself as.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Know, honestly astutely, Uh, you can't really look at yourself,
you know as as whatever. I like to go out
there and I like to tell you guys, I'm a
football player. If you need me to cover the guy,
I cover the guy. If you need me to play
a run, I played a run. If you need me
to go sack the quarterback, and I do it. You know,
I played. And I've had so many different defensive coordinators
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and so many different schemes where there's three four four three.
I always like to look at myself as a football player.
I like to hang with the cornerbacks like I like
to you know, I like to be in the locker
room with the linebackers as well, and that I'm in
the meeting role with the d line and the uh,
in the in the defensive ends. So I always just
try to whatever is ask of me for my coach,
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whatever that may be. You know, in football, you know,
you got to pass the hard down a round. You know,
sometimes corners had to play man, you know, and a
lot of corners like to play zone, and you know,
sometimes you got to play man. You gotta lock up
when they number one receiver. Sometimes you know, linebackers they
had you one on one on the tight end or
running back. Whether it's a run play or a pass play,
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you got to make it happen. And from a defense,
from a defensive lot standpoint, you know, you might get
a really really hard play action take and you've got
to make it happen to start a pass rush and
get to the quarterbacks. So I always just try to
do whatever is asking me. Of course they're gonna ask
me any rushing pastor and you know, sat at the
quarterback most of the time. But in whatever situation that
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I'm in, especially if you want to be successful, especially
you want to have a top five defense, you want
to go to Super Bowl, whatever dreams you have, you
have to be a football player out there. Whatever is
asking me, whatever play is called I want to get
that done to the best of my duty.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Von Miller, the Buffalo Bills joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here on FSR.
Bon I wanted to listen some of these hooligans behind
the scenes wanted me to ask you why Stefan Diggs
hates his head coach so much. I'm not doing that pass.
I'm not doing I refuse to do that. I'm a
broadcast professional. But I did want to ask you this
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in all seriousness. One of the things that I think
gets overlooked when it comes to what you guys dealt
with last year was there was a lot that was
unexpected that was sort of thrown on your lap. I mean,
obviously the tragedy before the season at the Top Supermarket.
Then you had the weather issues. You guys were displaced
a couple of times, your own injury. Josh Allen was
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banged up. We saw what happen went tomar Hamlin. Then
we've got the playoff game. How difficult was that for
you guys to process going through all of that and
at some point where you just overwhelmed. Maybe by the
time the season was over, you know this is.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
You know, this is my thirteenth year in league, and
you know, obviously, you know, everybody on my team doesn't
have the same perspective that I have. And obviously I'm
not speaking for Aerol. I would love to speak for
everybody in lock Hom but I just, you know, I
just can't on this issue right here. But you know,
things happen, you know things. You know, things happened, man,
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and you just kind of be able to make it work.
That's why basket, that's why basketball is different. In football. Basketball,
you can put four superstars on a team, three superstars
in the team, and you have a chance to go
to the super Bowl, like not the super Bowl, but
the NBA Finals. You have a chance. You have a
chance to have a chance to go to the finals.
You have a successful In football, it don't matter what
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you gotta do, it's just so many different elements that
can happen. You gotta be you gotta have a great coach,
you gotta be well coached, You have to have superstar players,
and then when you get in that situation, you gotta
make it happen. You gotta you gotta you wanna get
one game, you wanna get certain games to make it happen.
And this is what you know makes football good. You
deal with injury, you deal with weather issues, Life happens,
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you know, you get tragedies or the things that you
know you never would imagine happen, and you got to
deal with those things as well, and you just gotta
suit it up and play. You know, one of the
reasons why I came to the Buffalo Bills is because
I knew I would have multiple shots at the Super Bowl,
and I just want you know, Tom Brady. Tom Brady
got seven super Bowls and he should have won more.
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You know, he should have he should have worn more.
You just got to you just got to keep going.
You just you know, it's like soccer. You want to
have multiple shots on goal. If I get one shot blocked,
I want to just have multiple shots on gold and
eventually one of those will go go in. And you know, Buffalo,
we've been we've been waiting and we've been working for
a long time to get a Super Bowl man. And
you know our coim is coming man. And last year
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was it was a tough year all the way around,
you know, for all the reasons that you just said,
But you just got suited up, line back up and
go at it. Man. We still got Josh Ellen, Brandon
bean Is, Brandon bean Has has put a great team
out in front of us. We had a great team
last year. But as I strongly believe that, we got better.
Office of line got better, defensive line got better. We
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got rookies that to be older. It's just that we
just have a better team, man, and I'm super excited
about it.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Man.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
We got here with some injuries last year. I never
make the injury excuse because on a football team, you're
supposed to have guys that can step up at any moment.
Injury is going to happen. You got to be able
to just, you know, next man. You have to have
the next man up mentality on both Super Bowls that
I want. You have to have the next man up
on really what your team is about. So you never
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make the injury uh like, never make the injury excuse.
But we did. You know, we did get bit with
that bug. What every team does, and you just got
to you know, line up and make it happen. And
I'm coming into year thirteen, this is, you know, my
second year with the Buffalo Bill. Man, I'm super excited
at what we have. Man, it's gonna be cool.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And you talked about injuries. You talked about soccer. You know,
when they play soccer, von, they play on grass. And
you've joined Pennington on this campaign to turn flip it,
flip the turf into the natural grass. Like, give me
a little bit of the background. What led to you
joining this campaign? Why are you so passionate about it?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
First and foremost, you know, I love football, man. You know,
our our game was it on grass, you know, not
astro turf, not artificial turf, not any surface other than grass.
Our game was founded on grass, is supposed to be
played on grass. I'm partnering with with with the grass
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and seed company Pennington on the Flip the Turf campaign.
You know, we're advocating for player safety by encouraging the
league to flip all fields from artificial turf to grass
for turf. You know, according to you know recent you
know data, recent NFL data, non contact injuries occurr at
a higher rate on artificial turf compared to grass. And
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this was just in the last twenty twenty two seasons.
I'm allergic to glass, I'm allergic to grass. I've been
allergic to grass. Since day one, I itched and I
sneeze after every single game. That's that's why I were
sleeves no matter if it's hot or cold. But I
still I still want to be on grass, you know,
I still choose grass over artificial turf. And that's why
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I'm working with Pennington that encourage the fans to sign
a petition and flip the turf. And you know, if
anybody listening they want to sign the petition, they can
go over to Pennington dot com slash ship the turf
and learn more about it and show your support by
signing a petition.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We does it just come down to Before I let
you go, what do you think the issue for the
NFL is? Is it just money? Is it just cheaper
to do it on artificial turf in some places because
you can bring in more, more concerts, more other events
to happen. Like what seems to be the issue when
everybody universally says we all want natural grass.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
It's just I think it's just a I think it's
just a I think it's just a matter of time. Honestly.
You know, obviously, you know owners they want to have you,
they want to have a surface that is, uh, that
is you know that they can use and like you said,
for concerts and monster jams and whatever you may be,
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like uh, you know, monster truck, whatever you may be,
whatever people, whatever attractions that these stadiums bring. And you know,
you know, I can't say that I understand that, but
I you know, I see why they would have a
you know, a turf like that that they could you know,
just roll up and do whatever they do. But that
is a football stadium, you know, it's it's a football stadium.
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It's built around football. It's built around a football team,
and the game of football was founded on grass. So
you know, whatever excuses that they can come up with
his concerts or you know, events or you know, whatever
it may be, it's still ways to get that done
on grass turf. You know, it's no excuse me, let's
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have artists turn because we can have multiple events on
this throughout the year. It's multiple ways to get that
done on grass with a grass field as well. You know,
it's crazy to you know, I played at Sofi Stadium
and it's the best stadium in the world. It is
the best stadium in the higher world. And it's and
it's an artificial turf. So it's just, you know, it's
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crazy to me that to think in twenty twenty three
years we're still having this conversation. But I do, honestly
still at the bottom of my heart, it's just a
matter of time before all the fields or grass. The
game was founding on grass. The stadium is built around
a football team. It's just a matter of time before,
you know, every field in the NFL is grass for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, Sofi Stadium. The one thing I would say, though,
it is kind of a pain in the ass to
get to. You know, the traffic is wild out there.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I mean, hey, von, I played uh at Penn State
at linebacker. You and my last my last game in
college was in the Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Does that does that hit your Does that strike your
memory bank? Does that strike your data bank? The team
that that Penn State played that year?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yeah, I remember that game. It was close at first,
It was close at first. That was that was a
really dope game. You know, that was my really that
was one of my first uh that's really one of
my first you know, it wasn't my first boat game.
It was one of the biggest games I ever played
in my life, and you know it was it was
close at first then they just kind of pulled away
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from us. But yeah, I know, I know a game
that you're talking about. Man, it was fun, It really
was fun. We ended up losing that one though, Okay,
all right, right, all.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right, Von get them on Twitter at.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Von has some dope linebackers too though now.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And I know I know that That's why I threw
the LBU at you, because I know in your mind
you're like, well, we got some lbs at A and M.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
You know, we got the past versus that, we got
some past rushers, and we got some dbs, were got
quarterbacks to all type of players that come through text
mea INFM State is a great uh is a great school.
That's when Michael Parsons went right, That's correct. Yeah, So
you know I gotta I'm twenty three, I'm I'm going
into my thirteen year man, and I got dreams to
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be asked. I got dreams and aspirations to be a GM.
And you know, Ohio State puts out great players. Penn
State puts our great players because them and puts our
great players as well. I don't know if we call
Penn State lineback to you. But they they definitely put
out a lot of great players.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Hey, Von, you do know we we own the name.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
We actually created it, and we actually own the name,
like we literally own it.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
That's that's where it is. I mean, just because I
buy a Ferrari don't mean I'm a Ferrari.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, but if your but if your name is Ferrari,
but but if it's Von Ferrari, you know what that means,
that means.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
You're a Ferrari.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Yeah, I guess, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm just saying, you know, I just you know, I'm
on with an LB, so I just figured I just
try to flex, you know, just to tab it because
it's one of the best that ever did it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I just wanted to make sure I shot my shot man.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Man, Like I said, Penn State, they have a lot
of great players that come to there, you know, linebacker,
you you guys own the name, man, and I see
one hundred percent. Man, I got a lot of respects
with Michael Parsons. I just kicked it with the other
day and he said something about it as well. Just
you know, early in the morning. It's early in the morning,
and man, I get it to Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
By the way, if you're going to be a future GM,
you know, I mean maybe Michael Parsons might be somebody
that you're having a conversation with at some point. So
we'll delete all of this from the podcast. How get
you evidenced?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Hey, as you retire anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I'm just saying, I'm saying Michael Parsons say word, yeah, yeah,
I'm left in future GM. We're we're talking to here.
We got to be clear on that. Von. We appreciate it, man,
thanks so much for the time, Thanks for waking up
early with this. Good luck this year, good luck with
the recovery, and we look forward to watching you at
Von Miller on Twitter again working with Pennington in the
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hashtag flip the Turf campaign for twenty twenty three. Vaughn,
thanks so much again.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
All right, bro, yes, sir, have a good one.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
There.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
He is Von Miller.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know he's got his own podcast too. You know,
he's in he's in the podcasting game, does a really
nice podcast as well, So make sure y'all check him out. Man,
he will support this podcast game.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know, his credentials are pretty impressive, a pretty strong man.
I mean it's like right as far as defenders go,
like it's on it's on par, if not better than
Aaron Donald as far as he doesn't have the defensive
Player of the Years, but the m v P and
the Super Bowl, the two time Super Bowl champion, all
of the other stuff to go along with it, the
(29:35):
All Pros, the Pro Bowls. Like, yeah, he's a he's
a no doubt about it all. I mean he's his
first draft pick of John Elway.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
He won the buckets too, He won the buckets as
a college player.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yes, wow, yes he did.
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Speaker 2 (30:32):
So, who do you think if you had to say
right now, who's the greatest coach in NFL history?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean I would assume it would be for
most people, Belichick. I mean there's some people who might
say you.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Said, yeah, like you didn't even have to think about.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I mean, Vince Lombardi came to mind the first, but
that might be most like iconic or legendary.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't know. And Don obviously he's up there, and
you know there's a.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Lot he went undefeated, you know, the only one to
go undefeed it.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
But I don't know. I wouldn't have said Don Shula,
But I mean I think he's He's he was a
hell of a coach.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
He's also Jimmy the most wins as well too. Don
Shula's got the most. Yeah, he still got the most wins.
So so Belichick is pursuing that also. That's part of
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
When it comes to was the winningest coach?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, did you ever go does Shula still have a
steakhouse in Miami?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I've eight a Shula's before there was a Shula's in
in Indianapolis where where like people stayed for the.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
The comb really in the hotel.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't wonder if it's any good. It was good.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Everybody was there. That was the watering hole.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
What everybody met there.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Everybody was there, got banged up. Uh, I'm sure people did.
People did, and you know, why wouldn't they? Yeah, I mean,
only people that are really working are the prospects really? Yeah,
and you guys, I have to do the testing.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I've heard many stories about the combine. Uh, it's kind
of the uh, you know, the the big one's over
and uh, what is it? Let's just get after it
and then be hungover and look at some prospects the
next day.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
The other dash Albert.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well, look Albert was enjoying himself, you know, which he's
entitled to do. But the reason I asked a question
for the greatest coach of all time is that Michael Vick,
who recently was on Tyreek Hill's podcast, which we have
talked about. He had some other comments about to uh
and his time in the NFL and going away because
of the dog fighting and all that. But Michael Vick
did talk with Tyreek Hill, and he made an argument
(32:55):
for Andy Reid to potentially be the greatest coach of
all time. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I was actually thinking this year, like after and he
won the Super Bowl. He only got two, but he
went to like four or five NFC Championship games every year.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Y'all.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Was in the n AFC Championship game where he was
in the NFC Championship Game where he was close. He
might be the one of the greatest coach of all time. Bro,
So you don't have to win championships to be considered.
You know, I understand Belichick and Brady and that whole dynamic.
But coach did it in Philly, and then he did
it and he doing it in KC.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
I'm always shot out Coach, Like I love that man
to death, like for real, literally I do anything for him.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You know, he kind of has an argument just because
he did do it at different spots and did it
with different quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
It doesn't it doesn't take away from what Bill Belichick.
Oh no, it's just the most extraordinary run. I mean,
you could put Bill Belichick in all sports, not just football.
With the run he had with Tom Brady. And if
the only argument people have is that he had Tom Brady,
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you know, so what so what he had a quarterback
that he developed into a franchise quarterback. By the way,
he didn't come in as a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
He was.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Actually, I don't know what he was coming into the
league A long shot maybe. So let's give a little
bit of credit where credit is due the run that
Bill Belichick had, and it started before Tom Brady got there,
by the way, his run of greatness as a coach
started before Tom Brady. The super bowls came once Tom
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Brady started, but he did pretty well with Drew Bletsoe
as well. So to me, the run that he had,
the amount of Super Bowl appearances, super Bowl rings, and wins,
it's just I don't think it's rivaled. I don't think
Andy Reid, I don't.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I don't think there's anyone that rivals that, not Don Shula,
not Vince Lombardi. I mean, you want to throw out
some other great names, Tom Landry or uh, you know,
Chuck Nole. I don't think anyone rivals Bill Belichick today,
Bill Parcells' I don't think anybody rivals what what And
(35:29):
I don't know that anyone will be able Marv Levy,
I don't think anyone will be able to match what
what Bill Belichick has accomplished as a pro coach.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
And see because the Drew Bledsoe, So that was parcels
that took Bledsoe to a Super Bowl when he was
with New England, and you know Bledsoe, you know the
year before Brady started as quarterback, Brady's rookie year, they
were five and eleven, so they may have been on
the rise.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
They were on the I mean if you look at
the ross, they were on the move.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
They were on the move.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Again, we just talked about Hall of Famers and how
sometimes you can't look at the stats and see where
the truth is and where you know fiction is. Just
because their record wasn't good didn't mean that Bill Belichick
wasn't positioning and putting himself in that team in position
to be able to do what they did. You got
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to build foundational pieces. So to me, I think when
you look at him as a coach and you look
at the personnel grouping, the personnel that he had, the
people that he appointed to coaching jobs and what that
was going to look like moving forward.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
It would have been hard in the moment.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
To say, all right, he's a good coach or he's
doing well. But in the in the aftermath of it,
it seems as though he put together a dope ass
coaching tree, he put together a dope ass philosophy, and
he put together.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Some dope ass players.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I mean you're talking about like Willie McGinnis, Teddy Bruski.
I mean, there was a point in time where he
brought in Harrison from well both from both Harrison he
brought he bought in junior Seau.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I mean he did. He did it with Troy Troy.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Uh, Troy Brown, Troy Brown, and David Patton. And I
want to say Givens was maybe the third receiver, like
he didn't even have like.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Bill Belichick is is he's.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I mean, when you're talking coaching, I mean, he's had
the best run of any any coach.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, I believe he's the greatest coach ever. It's just
from an argument standpoint. So the coaches that have taken
two teams to a Super Bowl are as followed. Obviously,
we mentioned Don Shula, Bill Parcells, Dan Reeves, who by
the way.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Is dope coach. He was a dope dude.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I wanted to play for Dan Reeves so bad.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I've heard he's a really good dude or he was
a really good due was. Yeah, And the fact that
he never got a Super Bowl kind of bums me
out because he was on all those Denver teams that
came up short. He took the Atlanta team to the
Super Bowl ninety eight and they ran into you know,
obviously an issue there with Denver and John l Way.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
And that was what I was going to talk about. Eugene.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, you know, it's a tad bit of an issue
with Eugene Robinson.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
By the way, he's a cool dude too, by the way,
what he had going on.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I mean, listen, you know, you go out, you're trying
to you know, you're you're doing a little shopping on
the streets of Miami and you never know who who
you confuse is a street vendor.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know, he would be considered I ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, Dick Dick for meals. The other one, Mike Holmgren
John Fox also took two teams to a Super Bowl
ten years apart, with Carolina and Denver, so like the point,
and then obviously Andy Reid doing it with Philly and
then Kansas City like the one that is going to
be interesting to watch. And I don't think that Reid's
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going to get here because there has been some speculation
whether or not he would walk away at some point.
So he's fifty one wins behind Belichick, which as long
as Belichick keeps coaching.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
And he won't catch him.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I don't think so either. But here's here's the one
that's a possibility. He's nine playoff wins behind Belichick. With
Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback, it's not far fetched to
think that Reid could catch him an all time playoff
wins Like it's it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
If I was any games, is that like per year
if you're the team.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I mean, if you're the home team, we're looking at
what three a year if you make a super Bowl run?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
So he would have to do it the next three
years four years.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
In Mahomes' prime.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean, do you have him that long? Do you
have Patrick Mahomes that long? In today's NFL?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I don't think they'll let Patrick Mahomes go like
at any point whatsoever, and if they do, we'll delete
this from the podcast. This and this never happened, This
quote never took place. But I just I look at
it and I go that that one could be considering
The Patriots don't appear to be a playoff team anytime soon,
as we've discussed over the past couple of days on
(40:09):
the show, but with Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback, you
would assume there would be at least, you know, a
playoff winner, a couple of playoff wins a year. I mean,
I know that's hard to assume in the NFL. And
so maybe there's the possibility that Andy Reid, when it's
all said and done, has more career playoff wins in Belichick,
which couldn't go to his argument. But I'm with you.
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I look at Belichick and I go that run, the
fact that he did it with Brady or without Brady
in multiple eras really because you know, look, they had
their early two thousands run, then they kind of tapered off,
then they had that great run in seven eight, and
then they kind of tapered off, and then they came
back what ten years later, nine years later, won a
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couple more like the fact that he did it and
kind of spaced it out. It's why coach K like
Mike Krzyzewski, to me, always gets credited as one of
the great coaches in any sport, because, man, you remember
those Duke teams in the early nineties, like them just
getting past UNLV what was was difficult to do, crazy
and then.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
It's crazy to believe that actually.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Happened, I know, And because the year before U and
LV played Duke and absolutely buried him by like thirty
in in the final four, and then they came back
the next year and they got their revenge. But then
he wins back to back. Then later on in the nineties,
he wins one, then he wins one, you know, in
the early two thousand or in twenty ten. I want
(41:32):
to say, like he spaced it out and had success
at different times. And I feel like Belichick did that
as well too, which I think is also an argument
for Belichick as d why he's the best ever.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
So, I mean, you laid out some some fine pointery there,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Like that Sredo's character Lee wrote all that into the prompter.
I'm not sure the prompter here, that's dope a little
behind the scenes here sports not great dope for people listening.
But by the way, where do you got to Joe
Pah amongst greatest college coaches of all time?
Speaker 5 (42:05):
I mean, he's the winningest, isn't he four nine?
Speaker 7 (42:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Did they did they remove some of those?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Relax? Bro, I'm just as relaxed. Look, relax, don't bring
it up and then be an instigator. I'm not. He's
got four nine, all right?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Just so, I mean, I'm just saying you you could
debate where he fits in on that. I mean, Nick
Saban is clearly the guy. He's clearly the greatest. He's
the goat. But I mean, and some and some, in
some circles, Joe's name would be mentioned with the the
(42:43):
you know Bear Bryant or the you know the Jackie
Shurrels and and you know the kind of those those names.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Can I throw a name out to you just football,
not not saying NFL or college, but greatest football coach
of all time Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean greatest of all time. He did it on
both levels. Yeah, he won a champion. I don't think that.
I mean maybe there might be what one other or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Carol is the other one. But like Jimmy Johnson turned around,
like he got to Miami and they became the team,
and then he got to Dallas and took over an
awful franchise.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
And they became You got to give credit to Snellenberger
for starting the movement the way that it happened. And
then Johnson, Jimmy Johnson came in and he just totally
fit what Miami needed at that time. And you know
what's crazy about that, You know all all that Jimmy
(43:51):
Johnson was. All he was was a guy who actually
related to his players, loved his players, and allowed his
players to be who they wanted to be within their
their their framework, and they want if you could, if
you could find coaches that could actually relate to their kids,
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and and you can still coach and you can allow
them to be who they are within the perimeters of
what you created culturally speaking as a team, you'll win.
And it's such a it's such a simple approach, but
yet it's so foreign because what you see is people
(44:33):
aren't able to relate to other people. And and I've
seen it more than more than not, I've seen it
in coaching that the coaches just don't they're not relatable
and and and there's not a there's not a genuine love,
there's not a genuine care for the guys you're coaching,
and guys know that. So anyways, Jimmy Johnson was one
(44:56):
of those guys. Dan Reeves we mentioned one of those guys.
Uh Andy Reid one one of those guys. I mean,
there's just some guys throughout the history of the game
where you'd say their level of care and their ability
to relate is on such a high level. And Tony
(45:16):
Dungee was one of those guys. Just the players love
to play for him and and they do anything for him,
and and there was just a a there was a
commonality there of relatability that made you trust and believe,
because that's really all it comes down to, is trusting
and believing fully that this is what we need to
(45:38):
do to win, and and this is how we need
to be in order to win.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
And then you win.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
And then obviously Dale Lindsay on that list as well too.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
You're you know, I see where you're at today. So
that's where you're at today, That's what I'm where you're at.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Listen, I'm just trying to make the argument for people here.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Hey man, that's cool.
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with Victor Webbergnona security guard potentially assaulting Britney Spears. That
was the big story.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
What a the four finger state to the face.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's done a new slap can I It's like every
time you feel like the NBA has got a real opportunity,
they got something, They've really started to pick up some momentum.
You got this Damian Lillard Trade and then this pops off.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
You just go slap Britney in the face.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
And look, we're not laughing at the fact that a
woman may have gotten slapped by a security guard. The
part that there's so many layers to the whole story
that are weird to me. So they're outside a restaurant
in Las Vegas. Obviously the summer League is going on.
There Catch restaurant in Las Vegas. I thought there was
only one in LA but apparently there's Mulden.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
No, there's there's I mean the original was in New York,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh really, yeah, huh well, I mean a point being.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
There at high profile place.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That's what I heard, and so you know it's not
a place I would ever be seen. Could you imagine
if I pulled up in my Sandford and Sun truck
at Catch restaurant? What do you think that was?
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That jump would be kind of funny if you was,
especially if you was vat lane, which you would probably
need the valet it so that would be interested.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
The valet would go, oh no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
No, are you on the list? Sir?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Excuse me, sir? Are you also a valet? But yeah,
so you want me to part this. So the So
apparently she recognized Victor Webernona.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
You have an advertizer tonight, sir.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Sir, dumpsters are out back. So apparently Britney Spears recognizes
Victor Webman Yama.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean he's yeah, and don't figure. I'm sure everybody
was recognized.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, it's not like she probably thought that was a
horse jockey. She just kind of thought, Okay, this is
a celebrity. I know he is. Well, I don't know
if they got that far. But the point is, I
look the words right out of my mouth. But the
point is I was thinking the same thing. Matter up.
(03:34):
The point is she sees Victor Webman Yama. He's with
his security guards, and she walks up to him and
apparently is talking in a British accent and is saying,
excuse me, sir, excuse me, sir, which I don't understand.
What's with the British accent. I don't get it. And
(03:56):
apparently she went to put her hand on his shoulder
and one of the security guards struck her. Now there's
conflicting reports. Somebody from web Minyama's camp says that he
apparently hit her hand in her hand hit her own face.
There's a eyewitness who talked to TMZ who said, no,
he clearly struck her, knocked her glasses off. She then
(04:20):
was heard screaming this is America in a British accent.
Maybe still, I don't know if she was method acting
and kept with the British accent the whole time. But
the point is, right when the NBA feels like they've
got the next big thing, something weird happens, and it
reminds me of the last time the NBA had the
(04:41):
next big thing. It was Zion Williamson and Zion Whimson
was in Vegas for the Summer League and an earthquake
hit Las Vegas that night. So it just feels like,
and I'm not making that a little legitimate earthquake, it
just feels like the NBA can't get out of its
own way sometimes, just pure chaos there at Catch restaurant.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
I mean, it sounds like a very very curious story
for the simple fact that Wombanyana has been tall his
entire life. He has been climbing.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
The ladder to get to where he is for a very.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Long time, and then now he's a draft pick and
he's out to eat, and and and low. Behold the
one name, one of the one of the few names
that would ever be on a list a short list
of people that might be seeking attention. Is connected to
(05:44):
Victor Wimbanyana having a trying to enjoy a peaceful meal
while he's, oh, by the way, getting getting acclimated to
being an NBA player in the summer league. Yeah, just
it just when you when I when I saw the story,
I just immediately thought to myself, it can only be
(06:07):
Britney Spears, and it could only be a couple other
names that would be on a list of Mariah Mills.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's that's true.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm just saying there could only be a few people
that would want to seek the attention of approaching the
number one overall draft pick and then doing the shenanigans
that led to her wanting to call or calling the
cops to to assist her.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
U now and in a British accent, no less, you know,
because you got it. That's that's a key element to
the story. A British accent.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I mean, if I'm if I'm the law enforcement, I
show up, and I show up just so I can
get Victor Winbyana's autograph or or a little selfie photo
or something like that. And then I look at Britney
Spears and I say, miss miss Spears, we're going to
have to.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Escort you off of the property.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
He's you can't have this, this young man feeling like
this is the way it's going to be here in America.
That's just not the way we do things around here.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And so do you still have the outfit from the
toxic video?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
And if you do, burn it because nobody wants to
see you in it today. So let's just be let's
just be real here. There's just a couple of people
that I know you sat there and you said, oh,
we're not laughing. I heard getting mashed in the hit
and doing this. But I'm just being honest. I don't
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condone a woman being being assaulted, being being handled aggressively.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't look at that as being tolerable at all.
If there's one moment where you see a story and
you say that thats ain't happened that way, it's this one.
It's this one.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It's very weird, man. It's just this is the this
is par for the course NBA fodder like this, like
the like this is typical drama, got nothing to do
with basketball, and the NBA finds themselves wrapped up in it.
It's like the Zion Mariah Mills. It's like all the
other stuff that goes on, just the passive aggressive social
(08:18):
media post Jahn Morant using a gun lighter to try
and scare people and then continuing, so you're.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Still gonna maintain that it's a gun lighter.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Well, I mean he did light some candles. I mean
we did. We did see, you know, have evidence of that.
There was a video that made it. Now the gun
in the in the video, I'm not quite sure, you know.
And I don't want to be reckless here and say
that was like a hand cannon. I mean, it could
have been a gun lighter. You know, I'm gonna trust
Ja Moran. He's been so honest and forthcoming with everything
so far, so you know, I'm gonna go ahead and
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trust him for you know, the way he's handled everything.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Again, I venture out to say, why, like, why would
anybody lean on that if he pulled that out in
a near and started doing what he was doing for
his for his uh, you know, for the social media,
for the gram.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
For the talk it ends poorly.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
Okay, so what are we even talking about here?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Look Aldon Smith yield bomb at Lax as a joke
and they did not take that as a joke like
they they made sure to let him know, Yeah that's
that's not funny, and he was arrested for it. So yeah,
it's just a wild, wild, you know, case of the
NBA and Britney Spears and British accents. Maybe she did.
(09:37):
Do you think she thought that Victor Webinamo was British
and maybe that's why she did the British accent.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
That might be what it is because he is from overseas.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, but I mean, you know, France England feels like
a big difference.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I mean, but it might not be a big difference,
you know what I mean, Like, she's traveled the world.
So whoever says she did it in a British accent
instead of a French, French accent or French, I mean,
French is a different language. I mean you're speaking a
different language. But nonetheless, Britney Spears is a world travel person,
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like she has been around the globe, uh performing, So
in that moment, she wanted to sound like she was
French so she could relate to him, but with English
involved in trying to sound French.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, and it makes all the sense in the world.
By the way, you keep talking, you keep talking about
Victor webban Yama. Yeah, I feel like with you discussing it,
you're kind of leaving out you know something that you
drive a gem. You dropped on the show a couple
of weeks ago, and we talked about Victor.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Webanyama, what about them?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
And I think there was like a song you know
that you you did with his last name. I'm not mistaken,
some sort of.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Mom no, no, no, no, she could cool man Yama
with my.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
She could cool me.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Why oh man? How about wemby huh? By the way,
racis this is a that that's a fair point. I
didn't do it. I want to, but you man, you
know you tell like a big, big, big opening weekend
(11:37):
for Victor webbin Yama. Some would call the human wind
puppet who all of a sudden finds himself the center
of attention, and maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Or Britney Spears finds herself the center of attention with
something associated with Victor.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Go figure, It's just unbelievable. Go figure. Man.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
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Speaker 2 (12:14):
Right now, we welcome in a Super Bowl champion, a
two time Super Bowl champion, a Super Bowl MVP, and
a future Hall of Famer, the one and only Von
Miller with us here on Fox Sports Radio. Vaughn, Good morning,
Thanks for hanging out with us here on a Friday morning.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
How do you guys? Good morning. I appreciate How did sir?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
How you doing, sir?
Speaker 7 (12:37):
I'm doing pretty good. It's early, but I'm good man.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Yeah, where you Where are you at in the world.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
I'm I'm in Dallas, Texas.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Right we're in California. Playboy, we got.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
We got we got your early Trump by about a
little bit of time. But we appreciate you joining us.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Man. How is your health? How how are you feeling
right now?
Speaker 7 (13:01):
I'm in a great spot. I'm recovering from my from
my aco. I'm about seven and a half months out.
You know, as I as I get older, you know,
you know, injury is going to happen. You've got to
be you got to be healthy of top. You know, mentally,
I'm in a great spot. I got two beautiful young boys,
and you know football is secondary. I'm in a good
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spot mentally, and you know the body will follow.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Don I got to ask you, so, what is for
people out there that you know, maybe have accomplished something
that You've obviously accomplished everything you could possibly want in
an NFL career. If you're retired right now, first ballot
Hall of Famer. I don't think anybody argues against that.
But if you had any advice for anybody out there
on how to stay motivated even after all the success
and everything on the resume, what would it be.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
You know, football is a very, very tough sport. It's
not easy. You just can't, you know, roll out of
bed and do it well. Some some people can't. But
you know, it is a it is a tough, demanding,
challenging sport. I always try to tell the young guys
you got to have purpose and intention when you come
out here to practice every single day. You got to
(14:10):
have purpose. You got to have intention. You know, you
can go through the motions in college, you can go
through the motions in high school, but at the professional
level it is just so demanding. I always try to
have gud I have guys, we break the huddle before
practice always about purpose, intention and intention. When we come
out here, we have a purpose and we got to
practice with intention. So what that man said is you
(14:33):
got to you gotta really focus on the main thing.
You got to have your why in order if you
if you don't have a why why, your wife is
your reason why. You come up here every single day
and listen to coaches yell at you go through hours
of seem and wait room and and and practice. You
got to really have your why in order to be
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successful at this level.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
M I've always wanted to add ask you this question.
I mean, there's a few guys the Marcus I would
would love to ask him to his question the same question.
You know, when I was coming out, I was I
was a linebacker, but I passed rushed at times. Now,
(15:16):
more often than not, I'm probably doing things that a
linebacker does versus what a three to FOURD linebacker would
do outside backer or a d end that's standing up
would be doing. And I know you've gotten this question
a ton of times you're known for doing the like
you've got some of the dopest pass rush moves. You're
(15:38):
known as as a pass rusher in a lot of
different ways, even though you can play linebacker and have
played linebacker. What like what constitutes if you're you're considered
to be a defensive end or a pass rushing backer
versus being just a regular backer?
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Wait? What do you look at yourself as.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Know, honestly astutely, Uh, you can't really look at yourself,
you know as as whatever. I like to go out
there and I like to tell you guys, I'm a
football player. If you need me to cover the guy,
I cover the guy. If you need me to play
a run, I played a run. If you need me
to go sack the quarterback, and I do it. You know,
I played. And I've had so many different defensive coordinators
(16:21):
and so many different schemes where there's three four four three.
I always like to look at myself as a football player.
I like to hang with the cornerbacks like I like
to you know, I like to be in the locker
room with the linebackers as well, and that I'm in
the meeting role with the d line and the uh,
in the in the defensive ends. So I always just
try to whatever is ask of me for my coach,
(16:43):
whatever that may be. You know, in football, you know,
you got to pass the hard down a round. You know,
sometimes corners had to play man, you know, and a
lot of corners like to play zone, and you know,
sometimes you got to play man. You gotta lock up
when they number one receiver. Sometimes you know, linebackers they
had you one on one on the tight end or
running back. Whether it's a run play or a pass play,
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you got to make it happen. And from a defense,
from a defensive lot standpoint, you know, you might get
a really really hard play action take and you've got
to make it happen to start a pass rush and
get to the quarterbacks. So I always just try to
do whatever is asking me. Of course they're gonna ask
me any rushing pastor and you know, sat at the
quarterback most of the time. But in whatever situation that
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I'm in, especially if you want to be successful, especially
you want to have a top five defense, you want
to go to Super Bowl, whatever dreams you have, you
have to be a football player out there. Whatever is
asking me, whatever play is called I want to get
that done to the best of my duty.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Von Miller, the Buffalo Bills joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here on FSR.
Bon I wanted to listen some of these hooligans behind
the scenes wanted me to ask you why Stefan Diggs
hates his head coach so much. I'm not doing that pass.
I'm not doing I refuse to do that. I'm a
broadcast professional. But I did want to ask you this
(18:00):
in all seriousness. One of the things that I think
gets overlooked when it comes to what you guys dealt
with last year was there was a lot that was
unexpected that was sort of thrown on your lap. I mean,
obviously the tragedy before the season at the Top Supermarket.
Then you had the weather issues. You guys were displaced
a couple of times, your own injury. Josh Allen was
(18:21):
banged up. We saw what happen went tomar Hamlin. Then
we've got the playoff game. How difficult was that for
you guys to process going through all of that and
at some point where you just overwhelmed. Maybe by the
time the season was over, you know this is.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
You know, this is my thirteenth year in league, and
you know, obviously, you know, everybody on my team doesn't
have the same perspective that I have. And obviously I'm
not speaking for Aerol. I would love to speak for
everybody in lock Hom but I just, you know, I
just can't on this issue right here. But you know,
things happen, you know things. You know, things happened, man,
(18:58):
and you just kind of be able to make it work.
That's why basket, that's why basketball is different. In football. Basketball,
you can put four superstars on a team, three superstars
in the team, and you have a chance to go
to the super Bowl, like not the super Bowl, but
the NBA Finals. You have a chance. You have a
chance to have a chance to go to the finals.
You have a successful In football, it don't matter what
(19:20):
you gotta do, it's just so many different elements that
can happen. You gotta be you gotta have a great coach,
you gotta be well coached, You have to have superstar players,
and then when you get in that situation, you gotta
make it happen. You gotta you gotta you wanna get
one game, you wanna get certain games to make it happen.
And this is what you know makes football good. You
deal with injury, you deal with weather issues, Life happens,
(19:44):
you know, you get tragedies or the things that you
know you never would imagine happen, and you got to
deal with those things as well, and you just gotta
suit it up and play. You know, one of the
reasons why I came to the Buffalo Bills is because
I knew I would have multiple shots at the Super Bowl,
and I just want you know, Tom Brady. Tom Brady
got seven super Bowls and he should have won more.
(20:04):
You know, he should have he should have worn more.
You just got to you just got to keep going.
You just you know, it's like soccer. You want to
have multiple shots on goal. If I get one shot blocked,
I want to just have multiple shots on gold and
eventually one of those will go go in. And you know, Buffalo,
we've been we've been waiting and we've been working for
a long time to get a Super Bowl man. And
you know our coim is coming man. And last year
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was it was a tough year all the way around,
you know, for all the reasons that you just said,
But you just got suited up, line back up and
go at it. Man. We still got Josh Ellen, Brandon
bean Is, Brandon bean Has has put a great team
out in front of us. We had a great team
last year. But as I strongly believe that, we got better.
Office of line got better, defensive line got better. We
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got rookies that to be older. It's just that we
just have a better team, man, and I'm super excited
about it.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Man.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
We got here with some injuries last year. I never
make the injury excuse because on a football team, you're
supposed to have guys that can step up at any moment.
Injury is going to happen. You got to be able
to just, you know, next man. You have to have
the next man up mentality on both Super Bowls that
I want. You have to have the next man up
on really what your team is about. So you never
(21:14):
make the injury uh like, never make the injury excuse.
But we did. You know, we did get bit with
that bug. What every team does, and you just got
to you know, line up and make it happen. And
I'm coming into year thirteen, this is, you know, my
second year with the Buffalo Bill. Man, I'm super excited
at what we have. Man, it's gonna be cool.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And you talked about injuries. You talked about soccer. You know,
when they play soccer, von, they play on grass. And
you've joined Pennington on this campaign to turn flip it,
flip the turf into the natural grass. Like, give me
a little bit of the background. What led to you
joining this campaign? Why are you so passionate about it?
Speaker 7 (21:54):
First and foremost, you know, I love football, man. You know,
our our game was it on grass, you know, not
astro turf, not artificial turf, not any surface other than grass.
Our game was founded on grass, is supposed to be
played on grass. I'm partnering with with with the grass
(22:14):
and seed company Pennington on the Flip the Turf campaign.
You know, we're advocating for player safety by encouraging the
league to flip all fields from artificial turf to grass
for turf. You know, according to you know recent you
know data, recent NFL data, non contact injuries occurr at
a higher rate on artificial turf compared to grass. And
(22:37):
this was just in the last twenty twenty two seasons.
I'm allergic to glass, I'm allergic to grass. I've been
allergic to grass. Since day one, I itched and I
sneeze after every single game. That's that's why I were
sleeves no matter if it's hot or cold. But I
still I still want to be on grass, you know,
I still choose grass over artificial turf. And that's why
(22:57):
I'm working with Pennington that encourage the fans to sign
a petition and flip the turf. And you know, if
anybody listening they want to sign the petition, they can
go over to Pennington dot com slash ship the turf
and learn more about it and show your support by
signing a petition.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We does it just come down to Before I let
you go, what do you think the issue for the
NFL is? Is it just money? Is it just cheaper
to do it on artificial turf in some places because
you can bring in more, more concerts, more other events
to happen. Like what seems to be the issue when
everybody universally says we all want natural grass.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
It's just I think it's just a I think it's
just a I think it's just a matter of time. Honestly.
You know, obviously, you know owners they want to have you,
they want to have a surface that is, uh, that
is you know that they can use and like you said,
for concerts and monster jams and whatever you may be,
(23:57):
like uh, you know, monster truck, whatever you may be,
whatever people, whatever attractions that these stadiums bring. And you know,
you know, I can't say that I understand that, but
I you know, I see why they would have a
you know, a turf like that that they could you know,
just roll up and do whatever they do. But that
is a football stadium, you know, it's it's a football stadium.
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It's built around football. It's built around a football team,
and the game of football was founded on grass. So
you know, whatever excuses that they can come up with
his concerts or you know, events or you know, whatever
it may be, it's still ways to get that done
on grass turf. You know, it's no excuse me, let's
(24:38):
have artists turn because we can have multiple events on
this throughout the year. It's multiple ways to get that
done on grass with a grass field as well. You know,
it's crazy to you know, I played at Sofi Stadium
and it's the best stadium in the world. It is
the best stadium in the higher world. And it's and
it's an artificial turf. So it's just, you know, it's
(25:03):
crazy to me that to think in twenty twenty three
years we're still having this conversation. But I do, honestly
still at the bottom of my heart, it's just a
matter of time before all the fields or grass. The
game was founding on grass. The stadium is built around
a football team. It's just a matter of time before,
you know, every field in the NFL is grass for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I mean, Sofi Stadium. The one thing I would say, though,
it is kind of a pain in the ass to
get to. You know, the traffic is wild out there.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I mean, hey, von, I played uh at Penn State
at linebacker. You and my last my last game in
college was in the Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Does that does that hit your Does that strike your
memory bank? Does that strike your data bank? The team
that that Penn State played that year?
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yeah, I remember that game. It was close at first,
It was close at first. That was that was a
really dope game. You know, that was my really that
was one of my first uh that's really one of
my first you know, it wasn't my first boat game.
It was one of the biggest games I ever played
in my life, and you know it was it was
close at first then they just kind of pulled away
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from us. But yeah, I know, I know a game
that you're talking about. Man, it was fun, It really
was fun. We ended up losing that one though, Okay,
all right, right, all.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Right, Von get them on Twitter at.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Von has some dope linebackers too though now.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
And I know I know that That's why I threw
the LBU at you, because I know in your mind
you're like, well, we got some lbs at A and M.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
You know, we got the past versus that, we got
some past rushers, and we got some dbs, were got
quarterbacks to all type of players that come through text
mea INFM State is a great uh is a great school.
That's when Michael Parsons went right, That's correct. Yeah, So
you know I gotta I'm twenty three, I'm I'm going
into my thirteen year man, and I got dreams to
(27:00):
be asked. I got dreams and aspirations to be a GM.
And you know, Ohio State puts out great players. Penn
State puts our great players because them and puts our
great players as well. I don't know if we call
Penn State lineback to you. But they they definitely put
out a lot of great players.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
Hey, Von, you do know we we own the name.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
We actually created it, and we actually own the name,
like we literally own it.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
That's that's where it is. I mean, just because I
buy a Ferrari don't mean I'm a Ferrari.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, but if your but if your name is Ferrari,
but but if it's Von Ferrari, you know what that means,
that means.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
You're a Ferrari.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
Yeah, I guess, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
I'm just saying, you know, I just you know, I'm
on with an LB, so I just figured I just
try to flex, you know, just to tab it because
it's one of the best that ever did it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I just wanted to make sure I shot my shot man.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Man, Like I said, Penn State, they have a lot
of great players that come to there, you know, linebacker,
you you guys own the name, man, and I see
one hundred percent. Man, I got a lot of respects
with Michael Parsons. I just kicked it with the other
day and he said something about it as well. Just
you know, early in the morning. It's early in the morning,
and man, I get it to Yeah, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
By the way, if you're going to be a future GM,
you know, I mean maybe Michael Parsons might be somebody
that you're having a conversation with at some point. So
we'll delete all of this from the podcast. How get
you evidenced?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Hey, as you retire anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
I'm just saying, I'm saying Michael Parsons say word, yeah, yeah,
I'm left in future GM. We're we're talking to here.
We got to be clear on that. Von. We appreciate it, man,
thanks so much for the time, Thanks for waking up
early with this. Good luck this year, good luck with
the recovery, and we look forward to watching you at
Von Miller on Twitter again working with Pennington in the
(28:54):
hashtag flip the Turf campaign for twenty twenty three. Vaughn,
thanks so much again.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
All right, bro, yes, sir, have a good one.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
There.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
He is Von Miller.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
You know he's got his own podcast too. You know,
he's in he's in the podcasting game, does a really
nice podcast as well, So make sure y'all check him out. Man,
he will support this podcast game.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
You know, his credentials are pretty impressive, a pretty strong man.
I mean it's like right as far as defenders go,
like it's on it's on par, if not better than
Aaron Donald as far as he doesn't have the defensive
Player of the Years, but the m v P and
the Super Bowl, the two time Super Bowl champion, all
of the other stuff to go along with it, the
(29:35):
All Pros, the Pro Bowls. Like, yeah, he's a he's
a no doubt about it all. I mean he's his
first draft pick of John Elway.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
He won the buckets too, He won the buckets as
a college player.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yes, wow, yes he did.
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Speaker 2 (29:58):
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Speaker 5 (29:59):
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Speaker 2 (30:32):
So, who do you think if you had to say
right now, who's the greatest coach in NFL history?
Speaker 5 (30:43):
Bill Belichick?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean I would assume it would be for
most people, Belichick. I mean there's some people who might
say you.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
Said, yeah, like you didn't even have to think about.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
I mean, Vince Lombardi came to mind the first, but
that might be most like iconic or legendary.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I don't know. And Don obviously he's up there, and
you know there's a.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
Lot he went undefeated, you know, the only one to
go undefeed it.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
But I don't know. I wouldn't have said Don Shula,
But I mean I think he's He's he was a
hell of a coach.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
He's also Jimmy the most wins as well too. Don
Shula's got the most. Yeah, he still got the most wins.
So so Belichick is pursuing that also. That's part of
the conversation.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
When it comes to was the winningest coach?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, did you ever go does Shula still have a
steakhouse in Miami?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I've eight a Shula's before there was a Shula's in
in Indianapolis where where like people stayed for the.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
The comb really in the hotel.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I don't wonder if it's any good. It was good.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Everybody was there. That was the watering hole.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
What everybody met there.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Everybody was there, got banged up. Uh, I'm sure people did.
People did, and you know, why wouldn't they? Yeah, I mean,
only people that are really working are the prospects really? Yeah,
and you guys, I have to do the testing.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I've heard many stories about the combine. Uh, it's kind
of the uh, you know, the the big one's over
and uh, what is it? Let's just get after it
and then be hungover and look at some prospects the
next day.
Speaker 5 (32:24):
The other dash Albert.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Yeah, oh yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Well, look Albert was enjoying himself, you know, which he's
entitled to do. But the reason I asked a question
for the greatest coach of all time is that Michael Vick,
who recently was on Tyreek Hill's podcast, which we have
talked about. He had some other comments about to uh
and his time in the NFL and going away because
of the dog fighting and all that. But Michael Vick
did talk with Tyreek Hill, and he made an argument
(32:55):
for Andy Reid to potentially be the greatest coach of
all time. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 9 (33:00):
I was actually thinking this year, like after and he
won the Super Bowl. He only got two, but he
went to like four or five NFC Championship games every year.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Y'all.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Was in the n AFC Championship game where he was
in the NFC Championship Game where he was close. He
might be the one of the greatest coach of all time. Bro,
So you don't have to win championships to be considered.
You know, I understand Belichick and Brady and that whole dynamic.
But coach did it in Philly, and then he did
it and he doing it in KC.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (33:32):
I'm always shot out Coach, Like I love that man
to death, like for real, literally I do anything for him.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You know, he kind of has an argument just because
he did do it at different spots and did it
with different quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
It doesn't it doesn't take away from what Bill Belichick.
Oh no, it's just the most extraordinary run. I mean,
you could put Bill Belichick in all sports, not just football.
With the run he had with Tom Brady. And if
the only argument people have is that he had Tom Brady,
(34:11):
you know, so what so what he had a quarterback
that he developed into a franchise quarterback. By the way,
he didn't come in as a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
He was.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Actually, I don't know what he was coming into the
league A long shot maybe. So let's give a little
bit of credit where credit is due the run that
Bill Belichick had, and it started before Tom Brady got there,
by the way, his run of greatness as a coach
started before Tom Brady. The super bowls came once Tom
(34:49):
Brady started, but he did pretty well with Drew Bletsoe
as well. So to me, the run that he had,
the amount of Super Bowl appearances, super Bowl rings, and wins,
it's just I don't think it's rivaled. I don't think
Andy Reid, I don't.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I don't think there's anyone that rivals that, not Don Shula,
not Vince Lombardi. I mean, you want to throw out
some other great names, Tom Landry or uh, you know,
Chuck Nole. I don't think anyone rivals Bill Belichick today,
Bill Parcells' I don't think anybody rivals what what And
(35:29):
I don't know that anyone will be able Marv Levy,
I don't think anyone will be able to match what
what Bill Belichick has accomplished as a pro coach.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
And see because the Drew Bledsoe, So that was parcels
that took Bledsoe to a Super Bowl when he was
with New England, and you know Bledsoe, you know the
year before Brady started as quarterback, Brady's rookie year, they
were five and eleven, so they may have been on
the rise.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
They were on the I mean if you look at
the ross, they were on the move.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
They were on the move.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Again, we just talked about Hall of Famers and how
sometimes you can't look at the stats and see where
the truth is and where you know fiction is. Just
because their record wasn't good didn't mean that Bill Belichick
wasn't positioning and putting himself in that team in position
to be able to do what they did. You got
(36:24):
to build foundational pieces. So to me, I think when
you look at him as a coach and you look
at the personnel grouping, the personnel that he had, the
people that he appointed to coaching jobs and what that
was going to look like moving forward.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
It would have been hard in the moment.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
To say, all right, he's a good coach or he's
doing well. But in the in the aftermath of it,
it seems as though he put together a dope ass
coaching tree, he put together a dope ass philosophy, and
he put together.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Some dope ass players.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
I mean you're talking about like Willie McGinnis, Teddy Bruski.
I mean, there was a point in time where he
brought in Harrison from well both from both Harrison he
brought he bought in junior Seau.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I mean he did. He did it with Troy Troy.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Uh, Troy Brown, Troy Brown, and David Patton. And I
want to say Givens was maybe the third receiver, like
he didn't even have like.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Bill Belichick is is he's.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I mean, when you're talking coaching, I mean, he's had
the best run of any any coach.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, I believe he's the greatest coach ever. It's just
from an argument standpoint. So the coaches that have taken
two teams to a Super Bowl are as followed. Obviously,
we mentioned Don Shula, Bill Parcells, Dan Reeves, who by
the way.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
Is dope coach. He was a dope dude.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Man.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I wanted to play for Dan Reeves so bad.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
I've heard he's a really good dude or he was
a really good due was. Yeah, And the fact that
he never got a Super Bowl kind of bums me
out because he was on all those Denver teams that
came up short. He took the Atlanta team to the
Super Bowl ninety eight and they ran into you know,
obviously an issue there with Denver and John l Way.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
And that was what I was going to talk about. Eugene.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Well, you know, it's a tad bit of an issue
with Eugene Robinson.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
By the way, he's a cool dude too, by the way,
what he had going on.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I mean, listen, you know, you go out, you're trying
to you know, you're you're doing a little shopping on
the streets of Miami and you never know who who
you confuse is a street vendor.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
You know, he would be considered I ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, Dick Dick for meals. The other one, Mike Holmgren
John Fox also took two teams to a Super Bowl
ten years apart, with Carolina and Denver, so like the point,
and then obviously Andy Reid doing it with Philly and
then Kansas City like the one that is going to
be interesting to watch. And I don't think that Reid's
(38:58):
going to get here because there has been some speculation
whether or not he would walk away at some point.
So he's fifty one wins behind Belichick, which as long
as Belichick keeps coaching.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
And he won't catch him.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I don't think so either. But here's here's the one
that's a possibility. He's nine playoff wins behind Belichick. With
Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback, it's not far fetched to
think that Reid could catch him an all time playoff
wins Like it's it's not outside the realm of possibility.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
If I was any games, is that like per year
if you're the team.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I mean, if you're the home team, we're looking at
what three a year if you make a super Bowl run?
Speaker 5 (39:37):
So he would have to do it the next three
years four years.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
In Mahomes' prime.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I mean, do you have him that long? Do you
have Patrick Mahomes that long? In today's NFL?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Yeah, I don't think they'll let Patrick Mahomes go like
at any point whatsoever, and if they do, we'll delete
this from the podcast. This and this never happened, This
quote never took place. But I just I look at
it and I go that that one could be considering
The Patriots don't appear to be a playoff team anytime soon,
as we've discussed over the past couple of days on
(40:09):
the show, but with Patrick Mahomes as your quarterback, you
would assume there would be at least, you know, a
playoff winner, a couple of playoff wins a year. I mean,
I know that's hard to assume in the NFL. And
so maybe there's the possibility that Andy Reid, when it's
all said and done, has more career playoff wins in Belichick,
which couldn't go to his argument. But I'm with you.
(40:30):
I look at Belichick and I go that run, the
fact that he did it with Brady or without Brady
in multiple eras really because you know, look, they had
their early two thousands run, then they kind of tapered off,
then they had that great run in seven eight, and
then they kind of tapered off, and then they came
back what ten years later, nine years later, won a
(40:51):
couple more like the fact that he did it and
kind of spaced it out. It's why coach K like
Mike Krzyzewski, to me, always gets credited as one of
the great coaches in any sport, because, man, you remember
those Duke teams in the early nineties, like them just
getting past UNLV what was was difficult to do, crazy
and then.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
It's crazy to believe that actually.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Happened, I know, And because the year before U and
LV played Duke and absolutely buried him by like thirty
in in the final four, and then they came back
the next year and they got their revenge. But then
he wins back to back. Then later on in the nineties,
he wins one, then he wins one, you know, in
the early two thousand or in twenty ten. I want
(41:32):
to say, like he spaced it out and had success
at different times. And I feel like Belichick did that
as well too, which I think is also an argument
for Belichick as d why he's the best ever.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
So, I mean, you laid out some some fine pointery there,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Like that Sredo's character Lee wrote all that into the prompter.
I'm not sure the prompter here, that's dope a little
behind the scenes here sports not great dope for people listening.
But by the way, where do you got to Joe
Pah amongst greatest college coaches of all time?
Speaker 5 (42:05):
I mean, he's the winningest, isn't he four nine?
Speaker 7 (42:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Did they did they remove some of those?
Speaker 5 (42:13):
Relax? Bro, I'm just as relaxed. Look, relax, don't bring
it up and then be an instigator. I'm not. He's
got four nine, all right?
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Just so, I mean, I'm just saying you you could
debate where he fits in on that. I mean, Nick
Saban is clearly the guy. He's clearly the greatest. He's
the goat. But I mean, and some and some, in
some circles, Joe's name would be mentioned with the the
(42:43):
you know Bear Bryant or the you know the Jackie
Shurrels and and you know the kind of those those names.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Can I throw a name out to you just football,
not not saying NFL or college, but greatest football coach
of all time Jimmy Johnson.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I mean greatest of all time. He did it on
both levels. Yeah, he won a champion. I don't think that.
I mean maybe there might be what one other or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Carol is the other one. But like Jimmy Johnson turned around,
like he got to Miami and they became the team,
and then he got to Dallas and took over an
awful franchise.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
And they became You got to give credit to Snellenberger
for starting the movement the way that it happened. And
then Johnson, Jimmy Johnson came in and he just totally
fit what Miami needed at that time. And you know
what's crazy about that, You know all all that Jimmy
(43:51):
Johnson was. All he was was a guy who actually
related to his players, loved his players, and allowed his
players to be who they wanted to be within their
their their framework, and they want if you could, if
you could find coaches that could actually relate to their kids,
(44:11):
and and you can still coach and you can allow
them to be who they are within the perimeters of
what you created culturally speaking as a team, you'll win.
And it's such a it's such a simple approach, but
yet it's so foreign because what you see is people
(44:33):
aren't able to relate to other people. And and I've
seen it more than more than not, I've seen it
in coaching that the coaches just don't they're not relatable
and and and there's not a there's not a genuine love,
there's not a genuine care for the guys you're coaching,
and guys know that. So anyways, Jimmy Johnson was one
(44:56):
of those guys. Dan Reeves we mentioned one of those guys.
Uh Andy Reid one one of those guys. I mean,
there's just some guys throughout the history of the game
where you'd say their level of care and their ability
to relate is on such a high level. And Tony
(45:16):
Dungee was one of those guys. Just the players love
to play for him and and they do anything for him,
and and there was just a a there was a
commonality there of relatability that made you trust and believe,
because that's really all it comes down to, is trusting
and believing fully that this is what we need to
(45:38):
do to win, and and this is how we need
to be in order to win.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
And then you win.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
And then obviously Dale Lindsay on that list as well too.
Speaker 5 (45:46):
You're you know, I see where you're at today. So
that's where you're at today, That's what I'm where you're at.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
Listen, I'm just trying to make the argument for people here.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
Hey man, that's cool.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
You like I'm not a Hall of Famer like I
did to skit.
Speaker 5 (46:00):
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