July 14, 2023 • 41 mins
Roger Goodell addresses potential international expansion. DK Metcalf lists Jerry Rice 4th on his all-time list and another edition of “You In or Out?”
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Football Friday. It is a football Friday. We are on
one Friday closer to some football. And speaking of football,
Jeff Schwartz, Roger Goodell is talking international growth. Here is
something that he had to say and speaking on that topic, we.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Believe that our future growth and a real important opportunity
for us, it's at international growth. So we're going to
continue to invest in that. Our clubs are committed to that,
we're committing our content, we're moving games. When we expanded
our season, there was a commitment on behalf of the
entire NFL to play international games and regular season games.
So I see that continuing where it goes as far
(02:54):
as the franchise being located overseas or a division, those
are things that we're excited about. We're not there yet,
but we're going to continue this growth and I believe
it will continue to be and it will be a
global sport.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What's your perspective on that now?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I know Adam Silver has come out saying he does
not want any Saudi ownership of teams.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
What's your what's your sense of things?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Well, right now are we do not have any kind
of public ownership of any of our teams. We have
private investment. We haven't made the move as other leagues
have to any kind of public investment. It's something will
contemplate at some point in time, but we really like
our basic model now where we have private ownership and
those owners are in the meeting room, they're part of
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the league and they're part of our success.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Did she say like she said Saudias. She didn't say
like any type of group or anything like that when
she missed that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Correct, Yeah, it's it's the Royal Investment Fund, the one
that live to or.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I get that, and I know that that's why he
went there, But she didn't address did she say that
as as like Sai? Right? So I found that to
be curious. Why did Roger Goodell go to immediately? I
guess maybe based off of what happened with the live tour.
I mean it's worth you know, the conversation. But I
(04:19):
mean she didn't say a group. She said Asadi like
a person from there of that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I but I mean, you know, the Saudi's own that
Royal fund. I mean it's not.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But what if one wanted to go out, What if
one person wanted to put together because when when you
do have one owner, you do have one owner. While
you have one owner, you do have investment groups as
the Yeah, how you own the team.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It would be it would be one person who would
own the.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Team, the owner even if that Saudi fund paid for it.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
Yeah, well because that was it interesting that he tackled
it as if you know, I'm I'm I'm making sure
I answer in terms of what took place with to
live tour.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, this is why you tell makes forty million dollars
a year. Right, he's the public forward facing, you know,
ward from the owners, and so he's very particular with
what he says.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, you would have to assume, based upon the
foundational components of what here we go American football represents
that you have to be very strategically sound and almost
overly politically correct in how you discuss matters that apply
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to a game that's considered to be America's pastime, you know,
the new one.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I think that at some point, I don't know when
that point is, there's going to be someone connected to
the Royal Event Fund who's going to lobby for an
NFL team. Now, they don't come up often, so there's
not like there's a big availability of NFL teams, right,
I mean, once Washington gets sold, I'm not even sure
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who the next owner would be to sell a team.
They could get involved, be an investor in a team, right,
you know, you don't have to own the whole team,
but you can invest and sort of get yourself into
the conversation, into the room as a minority investor of
a team. Now the question becomes to the NFL owners
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approve of a majority stake in an NFL team from
the Royal Investment Fund, I would say probably not right.
I mean, there's plenty of other investors with billions of
dollars that would want to buy a NFL team. We
see that every time an NFL team comes up for sale.
Right again, it's a rare property to have. There's thirty
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two of them, really thirty one because they're privately owned.
The packers are not, and they don't come up very often.
And that all you do is make money, You print
money being an NFL owner. So they're up for you
know that, when when when they're available, many many people
put bids in. But I do think at some point
we're going to see the Investment Fund make a pitch
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for a pro sports team NFL basketball, baseball, And I'm
curious how the owners respond to the overture.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Here's what I find to be kind of curious. Yeah,
how many how many games have been played? NFL games
have been played in Saudi Arabia zero at least, So
why does that even become a conversation? Right, like brought
up like it's.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Still about where. It's not about where they play, it's
about you know, infiltrating and you know, American sports and
trying to make money doing it that way.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
See, to me, I think they're turning places like Albu
Dhabi and you know, just just different different places that
uh are are. Really they're trying to turn into sports centers,
sports places, you know, by doing the car races and
different things like that. They're trying to bring, you know,
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Saudi Arabia. They're trying to bring those those types of
what's what's the big place that that everybody goes to
Dubai like like that that's to.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Me, to me, not in Saudi Arabia, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Though, No, no, well but Middle East right yeah, I'm
just saying we haven't seen, we haven't seen. Like I
could understand golf, I could understand tennis, you know, I
could understand sports that are soccer that are are worldwide.
But I just was curious as to why that would
(08:50):
come up, Like okay, because to me, I still think
there has to be some type of relation to it,
Like I know, I know what you're saying, like they
could own a team that's in Europe or or own
a team that's here, But you're talking about the whole
premise of the conversation originated from taking the sport globally.
So if you're trying to turn it into a global sport,
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you know, who are the major players to do that globally?
And I just thought that that was kind of interesting
that Silver would write about it. That would be the
question the line of questioning to the commissioner as it applied,
Like you could have went to somebody who's wealthy in Europe,
why go straight to Saudi Saudi Arabia, and you'd off
(09:33):
I would assume it was because of what just took
place with the live tour.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well it is because well it just took place to
live to. I don't think the NFL is itching to
play games in Saudi Arabia. That's the example we're going
to use here. I don't think that's the case. You know,
they're slowly kind of moving kind of further away from
from the continental United States, right because they're going down
(09:58):
of Germany to play games. I mean, maybe eventually they
make their way even further east and further away from
NFL from an American soil. But it's gonna take many years,
I think, to even get there, right, And there could
be looked that maybe there was a day when the
NFL is playing games in Saudi Arabia and playing games
in Dubai and playing games in the Middle East, But
(10:19):
I think we're still ten, twelve, fifteen years away from that, right.
We just got to Germany this year. They're going to
play a couple, They're playing two games in Germany this year.
I think they're slowly gonna But now, remember though, there
was an NFL Europe at a point, so there has
been a little bit of NFL in some of these
European countries, right because there was there was a long
(10:41):
presence in there. And it's been many, many years now
since there's been NFL Europe, but there has been a
little bit of a connection to that, right I know
that that Germany has I don't know if it's a
weekly NFL game on their air, but one of my
former teammates in the Giants of Sports, Marcus Kuhn, he
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was calling games for in German for you know, like
in Germany during the NFL season, and I know he
has done the Super Bowl for many years, so you
know there's already that kind of NFL a little bit
of NFL presence in Germany. Obviously, we know for so
many years in England there's been games. So they're solely
building that out now again where they get all the
way to Middle East at some point. I think we're
(11:24):
many many years away from that, LeVar, Like, it's not
even it's maybe a thought they have in a boardroom meeting,
but I think we're many years from the execution of
that actually happening.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I wonder if the NFL will ever look into taking
the NFL to Africa, And the reason being is there
are so many tremendous players that are African. Correct, It's
just never I don't I mean, and I'm just sitting
here thinking off the top of my head right now,
like that just popped into my head when you just
(11:53):
said calling the games over there, because Sky Sports, you
know that's Jason Bell and OC Humanyora, and OC Humanyora
has been leading this this charge on building and development
in Africa. I mean, some of our best players are African.
Some of the greatest players that have played in our
game are are African. I just wonder if that would
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ever in the global the global footprint of what they're
trying to build, would there be games that are taken
to Africa. I think that would be pretty pretty interesting.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
I think there is there is an NFL Africa program
expanding to Kenya. They host a like talent identification camps.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Right, yeah, it's allow. It's really all development and identification,
right Like there's camps like oc Human Yora is a
part of one that takes place in Nigeria, and it's
always about finding talent there. But I've never heard there
being discussions of playing games there.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I think you know there will be a time when
there's exploration past Germany, but the NFL often moves very
slowly to do these things. And I think it would
be very cool to have a game, and I forgot
I think you have to consider obviously the travel aspect
of this, right of sending a team all that way,
and how that would impact preparation, and really you have
(13:17):
a bye week obviously afterwards. But I think there's all
these considerations are part of the discussion. I do think
they probably had discussion to board rooms about this, you know,
in the league office. But you know, I don't really
know how close it is that actually it's actually happening.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I played in Osaka, Japan. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody coming
and play no National Football League football from Oscaca, Japan.
I mean, it's just so's It's more it's interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Are the game there?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You played a preseason game there?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, we played a preseason game against the forty nine
ers there and it was I mean, it was interesting.
It was a it was a great experience. You know,
I could check it off my list. I went to Osaka,
Japan and played a football game there. I mean, you know,
I was one of the marquee players. They had my
face on the on the poster of It's pretty cool.
I bawled out, you know what I mean. I had
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a good showing. My feet were on the floor from
my bed. I slept in a bed all week where
I could actually put my feet on the floor while
having my head at the top of the bed. They
had great plunge tubs that that was good. There was
a lot of smoke. There was a lot of smoke.
Like smoking was very very much a part of just common,
(14:30):
just everything. Just smoke. It was just smoke, bro Like,
I felt like I smelt like smoke for at least
a week or two after after we came back, Like
they smoked cigarettes there like that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Did you get it? Did you get a day off
when you came back, because I know, you know camp
back then, there were no such thing as days off.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Remember, I don't remember. I do not remember that detail
of it. But nonetheless, it was a cool. It was
a cool experience because we flew the whole entire organization
flew on one one airplane and I mean everybody was
on there, so we it was one big ass party
(15:11):
on the way back from Osaka to to America. So anyway, uh, yeah,
that was an experience, and you know, you know, it'd
be interesting to see where these these conversations end up,
you know, end up leading to. But coming up next
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I'm losing faith. I'm losing hope. Uh, Jeff, I really am.
DK Metcalf gives his top four receivers of all time.
You will be maybe you might be blown away if
you're a football purist, you will be mortified. If you
are a football fan, you might be mortified, but you
(15:55):
might agree. We're going to give you as top four
guys of all time. And well, we'll see how how
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Maybe this is the one topic that wakes me up today.
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dk Metcalf gave a list of his greatest receivers of
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all time. I'm not going to belabor the point. I'm
just gonna allow for him to give you, you know,
his five or his his his list. We have a
SoundBite of this, and I'm just so excited to hear
what you have to say about DK's lists. So let's
take a listen, and let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
On the other side, I thought all the time, Antonio Brown,
Antonio Brown's number one, and I'm gonna go Randy Moss,
I'm gonna go Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Julio ra Jones.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, did you want to hear it again? Or was
that good enough for you?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I heard it?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Okay, you heard it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah. I I think a lot of players, current players
don't respect at times the accomplishments of players that you
know that they maybe watched his kid or maybe didn't
didn't really watch much of the kid right to put
Jerry Rice where he ranked? Jerry Rice?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Was it fourth?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I think it was. Yes, It's kind of crazy, like
like Jerry Rice of all the time, I think lost
a second. But to me, it's just it's a lack
of either knowledge or respect of sort of elders right,
and again Jerry Rice ain't that old. I mean it
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was like but but it's it's just that you know,
there's this you know player younger players typically you know
they were they they kind of revert back to what
they know. Uh, And it's like I just kind of
thought it was understood. Jerry Rice was the best ever.
Like I think there was a discussion you even have anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
But to me, it just have thrown Randy Moss into
the debate, like is it is it Jerry Rice or
is it Randy.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I think Randy Moss is second.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean see my whole thing is And you're right,
That's that's where I fall on it, Like it's it's interesting.
I I you know, I'll go back to school, like
just to put it on a smaller scale, I'll go
back to school and and players don't know who I am.
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You know a lot of times they don't know who
I am. And it's like, but I'm on your wall.
I'm like, there's like, do you not Like they put
all of these things up so that you understand the
legacy and the tradition that you're connected to. And then
there's a few of us that are like all Americans
and have one sports and your pitchers are all on
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the wall and they're big, Like you got to walk
down these hallways every single day, Like, and I'm sitting
there thinking to myself, do you not stop and look
at the walls, Like do you not see the guys
that have done things that have allowed for you to
be in a facility like this and enjoy the things
that you're able to enjoy, Like you don't take the
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time to stop and look and be like, oh, like
I wonder how they played, or you know, different things
like that. It's for me, I feel like we've gotten
so far away from athletes being fans of the game
to athletes are like I think being fans of the
game have been replaced with training and with social media,
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and I really believe that there has been very little time,
in very little space for development and education of young athletes.
So while I want to be mad at DK Mattcalf,
especially because his dad played in the league, Jerry Rice
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is by far, far and away the best wide receiver
to ever play the game, somew with debate he's one
of the greatest, if not the greatest, football player. People
throw Jim Brown in there. You know, they'll they'll throw
Barry Sanders, They'll some throw Dion in there. Jerry Rice
should always be in the conversation the greatest football player ever,
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not just greatest receiver. So and then and then I
found it to be kind of like, I don't know,
like ab is your number one receiver of all time?
I know he had a great, a great run in Pittsburgh,
that that run that he had, But to put Antonio
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Brown ahead of the list of guys that should be
on that list, it's pretty that that. I don't know.
I think fun I think fandom is flight. It's fleeing
in terms of what new school players like they don't
(21:51):
know their history, like where's Tim Brown and all of this?
Where's Lynn Swan in this conversation where you know, like
Randy Moss should be number two on the list, but
Terroll Owens, I mean Tero Owens and Randy are on
the list. But I just think that when you look
at the setup of it, like you can go to
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if you really want to get deep with it, you
could go into talking about talking about guys like Jimmy
Smith or Andre Reid, like where where where are their names?
You know, what I mean when you're talking about top
guys of all time, art monk, where are you know?
But I just I think it's a sign of the times.
Just hearing what his top five was, it's a sign
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of the time. It's a sign of the times.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I do think it is hard for players who haven't
watched players with their own eyes. I'm sure DK watched
Jerry Rice to put players in there. You mentioned you
know some older players. I've watched enough of Jim Brown
highlights to put him where he belongs. But understand, sometimes
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when people want to rank your best, let's say you
use offensive linement best offensive alignment of all time, I'm like, guys,
I kind of just stick with the ones I've watched, right,
It's hard for me to give And there are plenty
offensive linemen who have had great careers in Hall of
Fame that played in the sixties and seventies and maybe,
but like I get to see them play. So I
understand if you didn't put players on this list, if
you're DK, any player or anyone really ranking, you know
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players that you didn't put on someone who you might
not have watched play. But there's no way that DK
Metcalff did not watch Jay Rice play. Jerywrice retired in
two thousand and four. Now he left Sanrancisco ninety nine.
But even in two thousand and one, he had eleven
hundred yards in Oakland. He had twelve hundred yard in
two thousand and two. So in with that's year fifteen
(23:42):
of his career. He's still getting twelve hundred yards in
a not in a league that was running the ball
as much as they were, and Oakland was very good
that year. I think that was the year that they
made the Super Bowl? Was that the year in the
Super Bowl? But uh, you know they they you know
Rice was playing with d was a life and so
to put him on there without you know, he had
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I mean the year, I mean, look at these numbers.
This again, this is not a passing league, man. He
had eighteen hundred yards in ninety five, fifteen hundred and
ninety four, fifteen hundred and ninety three, fifteen hundred and
nineteen ninety and nineteen eighty six, like almost fifteen hundred
nineteen eighty nine. These are these are not numbers you
put up in a non He had one hundred fifteen
(24:24):
yards a game in nineteen ninety five. So you know,
again passing league, right, I mean seeing a running league
back then where quarterbacks were you know, we're we're throwing
the ball eighteen times a game. So it's uh, he
was the best to do it. And again, I just
think it's kind of a lack of maybe.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Just awareness, awareness to his way. He does play for
the Seahawks. Maybe he's just grudging that he played. You know,
that's a forty nine ers player. Maybe maybe that played
a part in it. You know, I don't know, but
I just like Randy Moss probably the most freakish athlete
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to play the position. Like So if you're saying just
straight talent, like, that's Randy Moss all day. But if
you're talking about workhorses and guys that get it done
and have been consistent, you're you're now going into the
ram of guys like Jerry Rice and Tim Brown and
Terrell Owens. Like that's to me, those are the names
(25:28):
that that should be popping out, you know, quickly agree,
but anyway, that's that's uh, yeah, that was I.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Was surprised that Antonio Brown made his list. I mean,
Antonio Brown was for the years that that he was
in Pittsburgh, he was incredible.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Man, he was.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He was really good.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
But uh, I mean is he the greatest? Is he
the greatest receiver? Uh? And Steelers history?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I haven't do. I mean Lynn Swan, right, I mean
you're looking.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
At yes Swans want is the first one that comes
to mind to me.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, again, this is I think where the generational thing
is really hard, right because you know, when you have
a player that.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Don't forget about the era toward and Lin Swan would
be my pick.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like okay, So like Lyn Swan his highest year for
receiving was eight hundred and eighty yards Okay, but that
was sixty one receptions like that that was that was
the era he played in. Antonio Brown was, you know,
was getting one hundred and twenty nine receptions, one hundred
and thirty six receptions, one hundred and one receptions. Like
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if you you give Linz one one hundred and one receptions,
he probably is getting near the numbers Antonio Brown is getting.
So it's hard, I think, to to compare eras for
that reason, you oh, you have just compare that player
to the era they played in and whether or not
they were you know, the elite of the elite in
that era. I think that's how you compare players across
(26:56):
different different years of football.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, I would. I would find it hard to debate
that ab might be the greatest in the history in
terms of statistically his statistical run, but in terms of
what they meant to the organization and greatest receiver of
all time, I'm gonna probably go with Hines Ward as
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as the number one guy. But I don't know that
you'd be wrong if you said AB.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I would certainly defer to a wide receiver who was
very good at run blocking.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So like, yes, she was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Heines work, he got in that, he got in that.
I mean he played with it. Uh you know five ten,
I mean fourteen years. I had that correct in Pittsburgh,
So you know, uh, he thirteen years. It looks to
maybe thirteen years. It was incredible he had He had
over a thousand yards. We're receiving six of those years
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in two years. He got super close to doing that.
Antonyo Brown has more awards as far as you know, what,
what do I think what awards A first.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Might be he might be the greatest, greatest all time
in Pittsburgh. I mean that it's hard. It's hard to
debate it. It's hard to debate it.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Well, Hindswor does have two Super Bowls, that is, and
a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Actually mm hmmm m and he was.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
A good run blocker.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Oh my gosh. Well, I mean I don't know, but
but greatest of all time. I mean, that's that's that's
that's high praise from DK metcalf Or for a b
I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
DK is just wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I mean, it's it's okay. It's wrong. You can have
a wrong opinion. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You can't have a wrong opinion because it is an opinion.
I mean, it's right to him.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, it's wrong. It's okay, we just admit that. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
All right, Well, all right, all right, so okay, let's
let's let's let's do this. Let's let's get a trending.
Let's let's get a trending from our guy. Yeah. I
think we're I think we're done here. We're done here, Eddie,
who's your number one receiver of all time?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Jerry Rice, Jerry Riyah?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Absolute?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Who would you have? Who would you have? Second?
Speaker 10 (29:22):
I'd go Randy Moss as well. Yeah, Okay, didn't they
change a rule because of hinz Ward didn't Wasn't he
one of the big reasons why they got rid of
that crackback box?
Speaker 11 (29:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Probably, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah stuff. Yeah, that's good stuff.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
Was in Rivers, Keith Rivers, Keith Rivers with the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I believe it was m It was a linebacker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
all right.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
I was big heines Ward fan. So I remember those
news from the NFL. The New York Jets and defensive
tackle Quinn Williams agree in a four year, ninety six
million dollars contract, sixty six million guaranteed. It is the
second largest contract ever given to a defensive tackle in
NFL history, the first being Aaron Donald. Williams was an
All Pro in twenty twenty two. The Washington Post reports
that legal negotiations between the league and the ongoing Washington
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Commanders sale has been complicated because of things involving Dan Snyder.
A vote to approve the sale for six billion dollars
to Philadelphia seventy six Ers and New Jersey Devil's owner
Josh Harris is scheduled for next week. Multiple reports say
the New York Giants running Backsawon Barkley and Las Vegas
Raiders running back Josh Jacobs are both preparing to set
up portions of training camp if contract extensions can't be
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reached by Monday's deadline for franchise tag players to get
multi year deals. College sports News Northwestern defensive cordiator David
Brown has been named as interim football coach for the
upcoming season after the firing of Pat Fitzgerald the mid
allegations of hazing. Meanwhile, Northwestern fired there head baseball coach
Jim Foster after one season. The move comes after allegations
of bullying and a toxic environment within the program. Tennis
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at Wimbledon semi final action just getting underway. Defending champ
Novak Djokovic is in action. And in baseball, the second
half of the season gets underway today. Fifteen games on
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Joe Live from the Tirack dot com studios, we'll be
talking some Are you in or are you out? But
before we go to break, Jeff, I wanted to to
ask you a very very interesting question, all right, and
that interesting question being where did you think DK metcalf
(32:22):
fit on that list? Do you think he put himself
in that list and didn't put himself on it for
optics or do you think that he was being all
the way.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
For the best all time, for or for just or
best in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean, I'd say best all time in his mind? Well,
do you think he might have been thinking.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, he's not. I mean, we could be honest with ourselves, right,
He's like, it's okay, Like my high the best advice
I think I've ever gone in life was my high
school football coach said, don't lie to yourselves, right, tell
all time, Like, don't lie to yourselves, Like why would
he lie to himself here? Like he's not as good
as Jerry? Right, that's fine. You can admit that I'm
(33:05):
not as good as Jonathan Ogden. It's like I live
with that, with that knowing that it's okay. I mean, so,
I think you can be honest with your list and
still think you're a good football player without having to
put yourself number one in all time wide receive Do.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
You think he put himself in the all time top
ten lists?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think he might have put him he aplomest like
ninth or tenth.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Yeah he did. No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Ohthough, I don't think. I don't think he would.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
No, you don't think he would.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
He also he also listed the best wide receivers playing today.
He had DeVante Adams, actually had Justin Jefferson first DeVante
Adams and then A J.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Brown number three. Did he put himself on that list?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
He did not? Okay, Well, maybe he is a fan.
Maybe he is a fan. Well, you think about your
all time list. We're going to take a break and
then on the other side of the break, We're going
to come back and we're going to finish this thing up,
wrap this mess of a show that I've done up
with some Are you in or are you out?
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Speaker 4 (35:24):
Lead to live. I could have made a small conversation
before we got into this segment, but you know, yeah,
but I feel like it's better to hand it off
to you and let you just like coach us on in.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Let's have fun with you guys. Obviously we've talked a
lot of French fries this week. Yesterday was French Friday.
I hope you guys part.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Did youse French fries? Jeff?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, I told you was going to make them nice?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
What hot dogs? What'd you do? What did you do
with a steak? Oh? Oh yeah, that was perfect. You're
my type of guy.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Nice, perfect, but cast Starting with the state the potatoes.
You have to double fry potatoes, so you have to
fry them at a lower temperature first, rout seven minutes,
and you fry them at a hotter temperature afterwards. And
that's how you get the crispiness.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah. Now, I learned something new.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, that's a get Krispy Fries.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Nice. Okay, yeah, good, good job.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
There, Jeff. And you know it's fitting that it was
French Friday. Well, today's a French Holidays July fourteenth, that's
Bust Steel Day, which is the celebration.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Over you French, don't you go to jail? Is not
a jail.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
I believe the best steel was the is the famous
jail there in France that they liberated the prisoners from. Yes,
the celebrating the French Revolution. And yeah, so happy a
Steel Day to our French listeners out there.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Interesting you guys.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Enter out on bus steel Day out, I guess, I.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Guess, okay, anything that has to do with vast steals
in jails and I'm out, not in. Oh, I'm not
going to be in. I'm gonna be out.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Guys.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
The Yankees are adding advertising patches to their to their
jersey sleep No right, it's weird, yeah right, it's it's
worth twenty five million dollars. You can put your advertisement
on the Yankees sleeve. There, you guys enter out on
the new advertising on.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Jerseys worth twenty five million dollars. I'm in.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I'm I'm probably out, But I mean I get why
Yankees are doing it. That's a lot of money. But man,
that's that's crazy that Yankees finally gave into that. I
thought that would be the one team that like never
kind of gave into. I mean, they'll makes so much
money on the Yes Network, and this is probably they
probably need the money to pay Shoho Tony after the
trade for him.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I mean, it's real estate.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh No, I don't hate them doing it, per se.
I just think it's I just think the Yankees would
have never gone this direction. I thought they were the
one of the one of the teams with those jerseys
that just never put a patch on.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Them, you know what I mean, Right, unless you're paying
twenty five million.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I don't think you've got money for for some acquisitions.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Matt can't have facial air, but you canna have twenty
you know, an advertised understood.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Right, wow, twenty five million? Yeah, I'm all I'm in.
I'm all the way in go for you New York Yankees. Guys.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
I just saw this video of Aaron Rodgers signing an
autograph on a pregnant woman's belly and have you guys
ever been asked to sign an autograph on something?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
So we did this every year when I was in
college Oregon. There would be a day where you come
get an autograph and look at FanFest, right, just like
we got everyone doesn't find test And one year this
guy would was known for bringing in like weird objects
for Finfest. So one year he brought like a toaster
of it. In one year he bought a toilet seed in.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Do was.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
He just liked his organ fans, his organ players to
sign weird stuff for him. So I've signed. I've not
signed a body part though you know I had, and
I saw that was gonna be the answer for Lebar.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I knew that was the show for you. Interestingly enough,
I actually refuse because a lot of times it worked
it was kids that wanted you to like sign their
arms and yes, So I refuse to sign kids body
parts because I was like, you know, if it's not
a jersey or something tangible, like, I'm not going to
(39:11):
do that. Like I apologize, but I'm not going to
do it. However, if you're an adult, I said, I'll
sign your body part, but you have to make it permanent.
The only way I'll side skin is it has to
be permanent, and and I've done it two times, and
I've signed more body parts, but I've done it two
times where I actually saw the person afterwards and they
(39:34):
actually did get it tattooed on. Yeah. Yeah, and they
were both and they were both boobs big one.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So it was like a Mariah Mill situation.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I guess, I mean not really, I mean I didn't
it was the face. No, it wasn't on the face.
It was on the boob.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh you get that.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah again though the boob okay, and it was big
like the signature that is, oh okay and the booth.
But yeah, I got a chance to see the end
result and it was pretty cool. I got it. I
gotta admit, that's a pretty cool moment when you see
somebody actually got your signature tattooed on their body. So
(40:20):
they were a fan, So there you go. No, nothing
happened between me and that those fans with they were
just fans and I was just the person they were
a fan of, Like nothing else more than that. No,
no Mariah Mills situations or anything like that. So there
you go, guys.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Lionel Messi's official unveiling for Inner Miami FC has been
confirmed for this Sunday. They're gonna have Bad Bunny there, Shakiro,
some other artists. You guys enter out on this.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I'm in on that.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
It's a cool deal. But isn't he not playing for
like a year or two with them?
Speaker 7 (40:55):
No, he's actually going to be playing next week.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
First, I just know that the tickets and Charlotte went
up like five hundred when they when when they signed up.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Well, have a great weekend whatever it is that you're
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It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas Knox,
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back soon. I got my man Jeff Schwartz with me.
If you missed anything an hour one or hour two,
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you'd like to. You know, actually, Jeff is money. I've
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there is hour three and you know what, I'm gonna
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you saw that. You saw how like dope that read
was right there. You saw how it brought us into
that real real smooth like real real like real smooth
like you know what I mean I mean, Jeff, Yeah,
you know what else you will like? It's a football Friday.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Friday night, Oh Friday, Come on, Jeff Day, Football Friday,
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a contract.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Football Friday. It is a football Friday. We are on
one Friday closer to some football. And speaking of football,
Jeff Schwartz, Roger Goodell is talking international growth. Here is
something that he had to say and speaking on that topic, we.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Believe that our future growth and a real important opportunity
for us, it's at international growth. So we're going to
continue to invest in that. Our clubs are committed to that,
we're committing our content, we're moving games. When we expanded
our season, there was a commitment on behalf of the
entire NFL to play international games and regular season games.
So I see that continuing where it goes as far
(02:54):
as the franchise being located overseas or a division, those
are things that we're excited about. We're not there yet,
but we're going to continue this growth and I believe
it will continue to be and it will be a
global sport.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What's your perspective on that now?
Speaker 7 (03:09):
I know Adam Silver has come out saying he does
not want any Saudi ownership of teams.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
What's your what's your sense of things?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Well, right now are we do not have any kind
of public ownership of any of our teams. We have
private investment. We haven't made the move as other leagues
have to any kind of public investment. It's something will
contemplate at some point in time, but we really like
our basic model now where we have private ownership and
those owners are in the meeting room, they're part of
(03:39):
the league and they're part of our success.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Did she say like she said Saudias. She didn't say
like any type of group or anything like that when
she missed that.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Correct, Yeah, it's it's the Royal Investment Fund, the one
that live to or.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I get that, and I know that that's why he
went there, But she didn't address did she say that
as as like Sai? Right? So I found that to
be curious. Why did Roger Goodell go to immediately? I
guess maybe based off of what happened with the live tour.
I mean it's worth you know, the conversation. But I
(04:19):
mean she didn't say a group. She said Asadi like
a person from there of that.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I but I mean, you know, the Saudi's own that
Royal fund. I mean it's not.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But what if one wanted to go out, What if
one person wanted to put together because when when you
do have one owner, you do have one owner. While
you have one owner, you do have investment groups as
the Yeah, how you own the team.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
It would be it would be one person who would
own the.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Team, the owner even if that Saudi fund paid for it.
Speaker 8 (04:56):
Yeah, well because that was it interesting that he tackled
it as if you know, I'm I'm I'm making sure
I answer in terms of what took place with to
live tour.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, this is why you tell makes forty million dollars
a year. Right, he's the public forward facing, you know,
ward from the owners, and so he's very particular with
what he says.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, you would have to assume, based upon the
foundational components of what here we go American football represents
that you have to be very strategically sound and almost
overly politically correct in how you discuss matters that apply
(05:43):
to a game that's considered to be America's pastime, you know,
the new one.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I think that at some point, I don't know when
that point is, there's going to be someone connected to
the Royal Event Fund who's going to lobby for an
NFL team. Now, they don't come up often, so there's
not like there's a big availability of NFL teams, right,
I mean, once Washington gets sold, I'm not even sure
(06:11):
who the next owner would be to sell a team.
They could get involved, be an investor in a team, right,
you know, you don't have to own the whole team,
but you can invest and sort of get yourself into
the conversation, into the room as a minority investor of
a team. Now the question becomes to the NFL owners
(06:32):
approve of a majority stake in an NFL team from
the Royal Investment Fund, I would say probably not right.
I mean, there's plenty of other investors with billions of
dollars that would want to buy a NFL team. We
see that every time an NFL team comes up for sale.
Right again, it's a rare property to have. There's thirty
(06:54):
two of them, really thirty one because they're privately owned.
The packers are not, and they don't come up very often.
And that all you do is make money, You print
money being an NFL owner. So they're up for you
know that, when when when they're available, many many people
put bids in. But I do think at some point
we're going to see the Investment Fund make a pitch
(07:17):
for a pro sports team NFL basketball, baseball, And I'm
curious how the owners respond to the overture.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Here's what I find to be kind of curious. Yeah,
how many how many games have been played? NFL games
have been played in Saudi Arabia zero at least, So
why does that even become a conversation? Right, like brought
up like it's.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Still about where. It's not about where they play, it's
about you know, infiltrating and you know, American sports and
trying to make money doing it that way.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
See, to me, I think they're turning places like Albu
Dhabi and you know, just just different different places that
uh are are. Really they're trying to turn into sports centers,
sports places, you know, by doing the car races and
different things like that. They're trying to bring, you know,
(08:14):
Saudi Arabia. They're trying to bring those those types of
what's what's the big place that that everybody goes to
Dubai like like that that's to.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Me, to me, not in Saudi Arabia, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Though, No, no, well but Middle East right yeah, I'm
just saying we haven't seen, we haven't seen. Like I
could understand golf, I could understand tennis, you know, I
could understand sports that are soccer that are are worldwide.
But I just was curious as to why that would
(08:50):
come up, Like okay, because to me, I still think
there has to be some type of relation to it,
Like I know, I know what you're saying, like they
could own a team that's in Europe or or own
a team that's here, But you're talking about the whole
premise of the conversation originated from taking the sport globally.
So if you're trying to turn it into a global sport,
(09:12):
you know, who are the major players to do that globally?
And I just thought that that was kind of interesting
that Silver would write about it. That would be the
question the line of questioning to the commissioner as it applied,
Like you could have went to somebody who's wealthy in Europe,
why go straight to Saudi Saudi Arabia, and you'd off
(09:33):
I would assume it was because of what just took
place with the live tour.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well it is because well it just took place to
live to. I don't think the NFL is itching to
play games in Saudi Arabia. That's the example we're going
to use here. I don't think that's the case. You know,
they're slowly kind of moving kind of further away from
from the continental United States, right because they're going down
(09:58):
of Germany to play games. I mean, maybe eventually they
make their way even further east and further away from
NFL from an American soil. But it's gonna take many years,
I think, to even get there, right, And there could
be looked that maybe there was a day when the
NFL is playing games in Saudi Arabia and playing games
in Dubai and playing games in the Middle East, But
(10:19):
I think we're still ten, twelve, fifteen years away from that, right.
We just got to Germany this year. They're going to
play a couple, They're playing two games in Germany this year.
I think they're slowly gonna But now, remember though, there
was an NFL Europe at a point, so there has
been a little bit of NFL in some of these
European countries, right because there was there was a long
(10:41):
presence in there. And it's been many, many years now
since there's been NFL Europe, but there has been a
little bit of a connection to that, right I know
that that Germany has I don't know if it's a
weekly NFL game on their air, but one of my
former teammates in the Giants of Sports, Marcus Kuhn, he
(11:01):
was calling games for in German for you know, like
in Germany during the NFL season, and I know he
has done the Super Bowl for many years, so you
know there's already that kind of NFL a little bit
of NFL presence in Germany. Obviously, we know for so
many years in England there's been games. So they're solely
building that out now again where they get all the
way to Middle East at some point. I think we're
(11:24):
many many years away from that, LeVar, Like, it's not
even it's maybe a thought they have in a boardroom meeting,
but I think we're many years from the execution of
that actually happening.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I wonder if the NFL will ever look into taking
the NFL to Africa, And the reason being is there
are so many tremendous players that are African. Correct, It's
just never I don't I mean, and I'm just sitting
here thinking off the top of my head right now,
like that just popped into my head when you just
(11:53):
said calling the games over there, because Sky Sports, you
know that's Jason Bell and OC Humanyora, and OC Humanyora
has been leading this this charge on building and development
in Africa. I mean, some of our best players are African.
Some of the greatest players that have played in our
game are are African. I just wonder if that would
(12:16):
ever in the global the global footprint of what they're
trying to build, would there be games that are taken
to Africa. I think that would be pretty pretty interesting.
Speaker 7 (12:26):
I think there is there is an NFL Africa program
expanding to Kenya. They host a like talent identification camps.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Right, yeah, it's allow. It's really all development and identification,
right Like there's camps like oc Human Yora is a
part of one that takes place in Nigeria, and it's
always about finding talent there. But I've never heard there
being discussions of playing games there.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I think you know there will be a time when
there's exploration past Germany, but the NFL often moves very
slowly to do these things. And I think it would
be very cool to have a game, and I forgot
I think you have to consider obviously the travel aspect
of this, right of sending a team all that way,
and how that would impact preparation, and really you have
(13:17):
a bye week obviously afterwards. But I think there's all
these considerations are part of the discussion. I do think
they probably had discussion to board rooms about this, you know,
in the league office. But you know, I don't really
know how close it is that actually it's actually happening.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I played in Osaka, Japan. Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody coming
and play no National Football League football from Oscaca, Japan.
I mean, it's just so's It's more it's interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Are the game there?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
What's that?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
You played a preseason game there?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, we played a preseason game against the forty nine
ers there and it was I mean, it was interesting.
It was a it was a great experience. You know,
I could check it off my list. I went to Osaka,
Japan and played a football game there. I mean, you know,
I was one of the marquee players. They had my
face on the on the poster of It's pretty cool.
I bawled out, you know what I mean. I had
(14:08):
a good showing. My feet were on the floor from
my bed. I slept in a bed all week where
I could actually put my feet on the floor while
having my head at the top of the bed. They
had great plunge tubs that that was good. There was
a lot of smoke. There was a lot of smoke.
Like smoking was very very much a part of just common,
(14:30):
just everything. Just smoke. It was just smoke, bro Like,
I felt like I smelt like smoke for at least
a week or two after after we came back, Like
they smoked cigarettes there like that.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Did you get it? Did you get a day off
when you came back, because I know, you know camp
back then, there were no such thing as days off.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Remember, I don't remember. I do not remember that detail
of it. But nonetheless, it was a cool. It was
a cool experience because we flew the whole entire organization
flew on one one airplane and I mean everybody was
on there, so we it was one big ass party
(15:11):
on the way back from Osaka to to America. So anyway, uh, yeah,
that was an experience, and you know, you know, it'd
be interesting to see where these these conversations end up,
you know, end up leading to. But coming up next
on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Live from
the tyreq dot Com Studios, these young bucks, I don't know,
(15:33):
I'm losing faith. I'm losing hope. Uh, Jeff, I really am.
DK Metcalf gives his top four receivers of all time.
You will be maybe you might be blown away if
you're a football purist, you will be mortified. If you
are a football fan, you might be mortified, but you
(15:55):
might agree. We're going to give you as top four
guys of all time. And well, we'll see how how
Jeff reacts to this. We'll see how I react to this.
Maybe this is the one topic that wakes me up today.
All right, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox
Sports Radio. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 4 (16:26):
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dk Metcalf gave a list of his greatest receivers of
(17:09):
all time. I'm not going to belabor the point. I'm
just gonna allow for him to give you, you know,
his five or his his his list. We have a
SoundBite of this, and I'm just so excited to hear
what you have to say about DK's lists. So let's
take a listen, and let's let's talk about it.
Speaker 9 (17:31):
On the other side, I thought all the time, Antonio Brown,
Antonio Brown's number one, and I'm gonna go Randy Moss,
I'm gonna go Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Julio ra Jones.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Okay, did you want to hear it again? Or was
that good enough for you?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I heard it?
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Okay, you heard it.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah. I I think a lot of players, current players
don't respect at times the accomplishments of players that you
know that they maybe watched his kid or maybe didn't
didn't really watch much of the kid right to put
Jerry Rice where he ranked? Jerry Rice?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Was it fourth?
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I think it was. Yes, It's kind of crazy, like
like Jerry Rice of all the time, I think lost
a second. But to me, it's just it's a lack
of either knowledge or respect of sort of elders right,
and again Jerry Rice ain't that old. I mean it
(18:30):
was like but but it's it's just that you know,
there's this you know player younger players typically you know
they were they they kind of revert back to what
they know. Uh, And it's like I just kind of
thought it was understood. Jerry Rice was the best ever.
Like I think there was a discussion you even have anymore.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
But to me, it just have thrown Randy Moss into
the debate, like is it is it Jerry Rice or
is it Randy.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
I think Randy Moss is second.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean see my whole thing is And you're right,
That's that's where I fall on it, Like it's it's interesting.
I I you know, I'll go back to school, like
just to put it on a smaller scale, I'll go
back to school and and players don't know who I am.
(19:21):
You know a lot of times they don't know who
I am. And it's like, but I'm on your wall.
I'm like, there's like, do you not Like they put
all of these things up so that you understand the
legacy and the tradition that you're connected to. And then
there's a few of us that are like all Americans
and have one sports and your pitchers are all on
(19:44):
the wall and they're big, Like you got to walk
down these hallways every single day, Like, and I'm sitting
there thinking to myself, do you not stop and look
at the walls, Like do you not see the guys
that have done things that have allowed for you to
be in a facility like this and enjoy the things
that you're able to enjoy, Like you don't take the
(20:06):
time to stop and look and be like, oh, like
I wonder how they played, or you know, different things
like that. It's for me, I feel like we've gotten
so far away from athletes being fans of the game
to athletes are like I think being fans of the
game have been replaced with training and with social media,
(20:29):
and I really believe that there has been very little time,
in very little space for development and education of young athletes.
So while I want to be mad at DK Mattcalf,
especially because his dad played in the league, Jerry Rice
(20:49):
is by far, far and away the best wide receiver
to ever play the game, somew with debate he's one
of the greatest, if not the greatest, football player. People
throw Jim Brown in there. You know, they'll they'll throw
Barry Sanders, They'll some throw Dion in there. Jerry Rice
should always be in the conversation the greatest football player ever,
(21:11):
not just greatest receiver. So and then and then I
found it to be kind of like, I don't know,
like ab is your number one receiver of all time?
I know he had a great, a great run in Pittsburgh,
that that run that he had, But to put Antonio
(21:31):
Brown ahead of the list of guys that should be
on that list, it's pretty that that. I don't know.
I think fun I think fandom is flight. It's fleeing
in terms of what new school players like they don't
(21:51):
know their history, like where's Tim Brown and all of this?
Where's Lynn Swan in this conversation where you know, like
Randy Moss should be number two on the list, but
Terroll Owens, I mean Tero Owens and Randy are on
the list. But I just think that when you look
at the setup of it, like you can go to
(22:13):
if you really want to get deep with it, you
could go into talking about talking about guys like Jimmy
Smith or Andre Reid, like where where where are their names?
You know, what I mean when you're talking about top
guys of all time, art monk, where are you know?
But I just I think it's a sign of the times.
Just hearing what his top five was, it's a sign
(22:35):
of the time. It's a sign of the times.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I do think it is hard for players who haven't
watched players with their own eyes. I'm sure DK watched
Jerry Rice to put players in there. You mentioned you
know some older players. I've watched enough of Jim Brown
highlights to put him where he belongs. But understand, sometimes
(22:59):
when people want to rank your best, let's say you
use offensive linement best offensive alignment of all time, I'm like, guys,
I kind of just stick with the ones I've watched, right,
It's hard for me to give And there are plenty
offensive linemen who have had great careers in Hall of
Fame that played in the sixties and seventies and maybe,
but like I get to see them play. So I
understand if you didn't put players on this list, if
you're DK, any player or anyone really ranking, you know
(23:22):
players that you didn't put on someone who you might
not have watched play. But there's no way that DK
Metcalff did not watch Jay Rice play. Jerywrice retired in
two thousand and four. Now he left Sanrancisco ninety nine.
But even in two thousand and one, he had eleven
hundred yards in Oakland. He had twelve hundred yard in
two thousand and two. So in with that's year fifteen
(23:42):
of his career. He's still getting twelve hundred yards in
a not in a league that was running the ball
as much as they were, and Oakland was very good
that year. I think that was the year that they
made the Super Bowl? Was that the year in the
Super Bowl? But uh, you know they they you know
Rice was playing with d was a life and so
to put him on there without you know, he had
(24:03):
I mean the year, I mean, look at these numbers.
This again, this is not a passing league, man. He
had eighteen hundred yards in ninety five, fifteen hundred and
ninety four, fifteen hundred and ninety three, fifteen hundred and
nineteen ninety and nineteen eighty six, like almost fifteen hundred
nineteen eighty nine. These are these are not numbers you
put up in a non He had one hundred fifteen
(24:24):
yards a game in nineteen ninety five. So you know,
again passing league, right, I mean seeing a running league
back then where quarterbacks were you know, we're we're throwing
the ball eighteen times a game. So it's uh, he
was the best to do it. And again, I just
think it's kind of a lack of maybe.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Just awareness, awareness to his way. He does play for
the Seahawks. Maybe he's just grudging that he played. You know,
that's a forty nine ers player. Maybe maybe that played
a part in it. You know, I don't know, but
I just like Randy Moss probably the most freakish athlete
(25:05):
to play the position. Like So if you're saying just
straight talent, like, that's Randy Moss all day. But if
you're talking about workhorses and guys that get it done
and have been consistent, you're you're now going into the
ram of guys like Jerry Rice and Tim Brown and
Terrell Owens. Like that's to me, those are the names
(25:28):
that that should be popping out, you know, quickly agree,
but anyway, that's that's uh, yeah, that was I.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Was surprised that Antonio Brown made his list. I mean,
Antonio Brown was for the years that that he was
in Pittsburgh, he was incredible.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Man, he was.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
He was really good.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
But uh, I mean is he the greatest? Is he
the greatest receiver? Uh? And Steelers history?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I haven't do. I mean Lynn Swan, right, I mean
you're looking.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
At yes Swans want is the first one that comes
to mind to me.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, again, this is I think where the generational thing
is really hard, right because you know, when you have
a player that.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Don't forget about the era toward and Lin Swan would
be my pick.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Like okay, So like Lyn Swan his highest year for
receiving was eight hundred and eighty yards Okay, but that
was sixty one receptions like that that was that was
the era he played in. Antonio Brown was, you know,
was getting one hundred and twenty nine receptions, one hundred
and thirty six receptions, one hundred and one receptions. Like
(26:34):
if you you give Linz one one hundred and one receptions,
he probably is getting near the numbers Antonio Brown is getting.
So it's hard, I think, to to compare eras for
that reason, you oh, you have just compare that player
to the era they played in and whether or not
they were you know, the elite of the elite in
that era. I think that's how you compare players across
(26:56):
different different years of football.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Yeah, I would. I would find it hard to debate
that ab might be the greatest in the history in
terms of statistically his statistical run, but in terms of
what they meant to the organization and greatest receiver of
all time, I'm gonna probably go with Hines Ward as
(27:19):
as the number one guy. But I don't know that
you'd be wrong if you said AB.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I would certainly defer to a wide receiver who was
very good at run blocking.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
So like, yes, she was.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Heines work, he got in that, he got in that.
I mean he played with it. Uh you know five ten,
I mean fourteen years. I had that correct in Pittsburgh,
So you know, uh, he thirteen years. It looks to
maybe thirteen years. It was incredible he had He had
over a thousand yards. We're receiving six of those years
(27:52):
in two years. He got super close to doing that.
Antonyo Brown has more awards as far as you know, what,
what do I think what awards A first.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Might be he might be the greatest, greatest all time
in Pittsburgh. I mean that it's hard. It's hard to
debate it. It's hard to debate it.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Well, Hindswor does have two Super Bowls, that is, and
a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Actually mm hmmm m and he was.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
A good run blocker.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Oh my gosh. Well, I mean I don't know, but
but greatest of all time. I mean, that's that's that's
that's high praise from DK metcalf Or for a b
I mean.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
DK is just wrong.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I mean, it's it's okay. It's wrong. You can have
a wrong opinion. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
You can't have a wrong opinion because it is an opinion.
I mean, it's right to him.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
No, it's wrong. It's okay, we just admit that. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
All right, Well, all right, all right, so okay, let's
let's let's let's do this. Let's let's get a trending.
Let's let's get a trending from our guy. Yeah. I
think we're I think we're done here. We're done here, Eddie,
who's your number one receiver of all time?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Jerry Rice, Jerry Riyah?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Absolute?
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Who would you have? Who would you have? Second?
Speaker 10 (29:22):
I'd go Randy Moss as well. Yeah, Okay, didn't they
change a rule because of hinz Ward didn't Wasn't he
one of the big reasons why they got rid of
that crackback box?
Speaker 11 (29:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Probably, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Yeah stuff. Yeah, that's good stuff.
Speaker 10 (29:38):
Was in Rivers, Keith Rivers, Keith Rivers with the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I believe it was m It was a linebacker. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,
all right.
Speaker 10 (29:47):
I was big heines Ward fan. So I remember those
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Joe Live from the Tirack dot com studios, we'll be
talking some Are you in or are you out? But
before we go to break, Jeff, I wanted to to
ask you a very very interesting question, all right, and
that interesting question being where did you think DK metcalf
(32:22):
fit on that list? Do you think he put himself
in that list and didn't put himself on it for
optics or do you think that he was being all
the way.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
For the best all time, for or for just or
best in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
I mean, I'd say best all time in his mind? Well,
do you think he might have been thinking.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Well, he's not. I mean, we could be honest with ourselves, right,
He's like, it's okay, Like my high the best advice
I think I've ever gone in life was my high
school football coach said, don't lie to yourselves, right, tell
all time, Like, don't lie to yourselves, Like why would
he lie to himself here? Like he's not as good
as Jerry? Right, that's fine. You can admit that I'm
(33:05):
not as good as Jonathan Ogden. It's like I live
with that, with that knowing that it's okay. I mean, so,
I think you can be honest with your list and
still think you're a good football player without having to
put yourself number one in all time wide receive Do.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
You think he put himself in the all time top
ten lists?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I think he might have put him he aplomest like
ninth or tenth.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Yeah he did. No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Ohthough, I don't think. I don't think he would.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
No, you don't think he would.
Speaker 7 (33:33):
He also he also listed the best wide receivers playing today.
He had DeVante Adams, actually had Justin Jefferson first DeVante
Adams and then A J.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Brown number three. Did he put himself on that list?
Speaker 4 (33:42):
He did not? Okay, Well, maybe he is a fan.
Maybe he is a fan. Well, you think about your
all time list. We're going to take a break and
then on the other side of the break, We're going
to come back and we're going to finish this thing up,
wrap this mess of a show that I've done up
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Speaker 4 (35:24):
Lead to live. I could have made a small conversation
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to you and let you just like coach us on in.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Let's have fun with you guys. Obviously we've talked a
lot of French fries this week. Yesterday was French Friday.
I hope you guys part.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Did youse French fries? Jeff?
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Yeah, I told you was going to make them nice?
Speaker 4 (35:49):
What hot dogs? What'd you do? What did you do
with a steak? Oh? Oh yeah, that was perfect. You're
my type of guy.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Nice, perfect, but cast Starting with the state the potatoes.
You have to double fry potatoes, so you have to
fry them at a lower temperature first, rout seven minutes,
and you fry them at a hotter temperature afterwards. And
that's how you get the crispiness.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah. Now, I learned something new.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Yeah, that's a get Krispy Fries.
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Nice. Okay, yeah, good, good job.
Speaker 7 (36:19):
There, Jeff. And you know it's fitting that it was
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Bust Steel Day, which is the celebration.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Over you French, don't you go to jail? Is not
a jail.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
I believe the best steel was the is the famous
jail there in France that they liberated the prisoners from. Yes,
the celebrating the French Revolution. And yeah, so happy a
Steel Day to our French listeners out there.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Interesting you guys.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Enter out on bus steel Day out, I guess, I.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
Guess, okay, anything that has to do with vast steals
in jails and I'm out, not in. Oh, I'm not
going to be in. I'm gonna be out.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Guys.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
The Yankees are adding advertising patches to their to their
jersey sleep No right, it's weird, yeah right, it's it's
worth twenty five million dollars. You can put your advertisement
on the Yankees sleeve. There, you guys enter out on
the new advertising on.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Jerseys worth twenty five million dollars. I'm in.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I'm I'm probably out, But I mean I get why
Yankees are doing it. That's a lot of money. But man,
that's that's crazy that Yankees finally gave into that. I
thought that would be the one team that like never
kind of gave into. I mean, they'll makes so much
money on the Yes Network, and this is probably they
probably need the money to pay Shoho Tony after the
trade for him.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I mean, it's real estate.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh No, I don't hate them doing it, per se.
I just think it's I just think the Yankees would
have never gone this direction. I thought they were the
one of the one of the teams with those jerseys
that just never put a patch on.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Them, you know what I mean, Right, unless you're paying
twenty five million.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I don't think you've got money for for some acquisitions.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
That's a lot of money.
Speaker 7 (37:56):
Matt can't have facial air, but you canna have twenty
you know, an advertised understood.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Right, wow, twenty five million? Yeah, I'm all I'm in.
I'm all the way in go for you New York Yankees. Guys.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
I just saw this video of Aaron Rodgers signing an
autograph on a pregnant woman's belly and have you guys
ever been asked to sign an autograph on something?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
So we did this every year when I was in
college Oregon. There would be a day where you come
get an autograph and look at FanFest, right, just like
we got everyone doesn't find test And one year this
guy would was known for bringing in like weird objects
for Finfest. So one year he brought like a toaster
of it. In one year he bought a toilet seed in.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Do was.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
He just liked his organ fans, his organ players to
sign weird stuff for him. So I've signed. I've not
signed a body part though you know I had, and
I saw that was gonna be the answer for Lebar.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
I knew that was the show for you. Interestingly enough,
I actually refuse because a lot of times it worked
it was kids that wanted you to like sign their
arms and yes, So I refuse to sign kids body
parts because I was like, you know, if it's not
a jersey or something tangible, like, I'm not going to
(39:11):
do that. Like I apologize, but I'm not going to
do it. However, if you're an adult, I said, I'll
sign your body part, but you have to make it permanent.
The only way I'll side skin is it has to
be permanent, and and I've done it two times, and
I've signed more body parts, but I've done it two
times where I actually saw the person afterwards and they
(39:34):
actually did get it tattooed on. Yeah. Yeah, and they
were both and they were both boobs big one.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
So it was like a Mariah Mill situation.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
I guess, I mean not really, I mean I didn't
it was the face. No, it wasn't on the face.
It was on the boob.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh you get that.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Yeah again though the boob okay, and it was big
like the signature that is, oh okay and the booth.
But yeah, I got a chance to see the end
result and it was pretty cool. I got it. I
gotta admit, that's a pretty cool moment when you see
somebody actually got your signature tattooed on their body. So
(40:20):
they were a fan, So there you go. No, nothing
happened between me and that those fans with they were
just fans and I was just the person they were
a fan of, Like nothing else more than that. No,
no Mariah Mills situations or anything like that. So there
you go, guys.
Speaker 7 (40:39):
Lionel Messi's official unveiling for Inner Miami FC has been
confirmed for this Sunday. They're gonna have Bad Bunny there, Shakiro,
some other artists. You guys enter out on this.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I'm in on that.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
It's a cool deal. But isn't he not playing for
like a year or two with them?
Speaker 7 (40:55):
No, he's actually going to be playing next week.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
First, I just know that the tickets and Charlotte went
up like five hundred when they when when they signed up.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
Well, have a great weekend whatever it is that you're
going to get out here and do all right, enjoy.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
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