July 19, 2023 • 38 mins
Veteran running backs are brainstorming ways to raise their value across the league. Dolphins believe their top contenders this season but who's really on the short list? Plus, mid-week awards on The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.
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Speaker 1 (01:17):
What I was looking at Lee, like, what are we
going to talk about?
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I have no idea what we're going to talk about.
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Speaker 5 (01:32):
Got we got one segment that like we need to
have some real talk about because there is an absolute
superstar who continually keeps getting screwed over.
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Speaker 2 (02:13):
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Speaker 6 (02:14):
So you guys know how in Hollywood they've got this
strike going on. It was the writers and then it's uh,
you know SAG like members of the actors going round. Yeah,
it's the actors and the writers. So they're protesting, they're picketing.
Lee was telling me that it's the first time since
like the sixties they've been on strike at the same time,
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and they're trying to enact change. They've got artificial intelligence
that is threatening their their jobs. They're just like, all
this stuff is that, And so they're they're picketing and
you know, making it be known that they are unhappy,
and everybody's out there in ninety five degree weather making
this happen in Los Angeles and the equivalent to that
in the NFL is apparently running backs.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh that's where you were going with it. They've set
up a group text, so they're organized. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I don't know which is going to be more effective
and trying to get what you want. But I'm going
to lead on the side of I'm not sure that
this group text is going to get a lot done
as far as increasing the wages for running backs around
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Call me crazy.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
It just feels like maybe there needs to be something
more done than Austin Eckler and Dalvin Cook and the
rest of these guys getting on a group chat saying
we're not being paid enough. Let's come up with some
plans here. If it's already worked into the CBA, I
don't know how this gets changed anytime soon. It just
feels like we're kind of spinning our wheels here with
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this whole conversation. It sucks for them, but it feels
like there's not a whole lot that can be done
right now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I mean, what is there to be done?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I meant the first thing I would do is I
would be all over the NFLPA for not trying to
look at the running back group and position and acknowledge
that for years now this has been a problem. This
isn't the first year that we're seeing a free agency
or players who are in a negotiation under the franchise
(04:08):
tag that it's not working out. Like we saw this
with Le'Veon Bell, who initially kind of felt like he
wasn't being compensated what his worth was. That was five
years ago, right, So this isn't the first time that
we've seen this. In fact, I think probably since around
that point, you've seen a decline. And you really could
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go back to the twenty eleven CBA that was negotiated
and look at what that CBA set up for twelve
years later and how the middle class is gone in
the NFL, and it most mostly impacted the running back position.
There's other position groups too that we could talk about.
(04:53):
In regards to veterans. But that singular decision to slot
the rookie draft salary pool where now each draft pick
is slotted at an X amount and it goes up
an X percent per year, that singular decision to agree
to that as an NFLPA, which it wasn't like that before,
has ultimately led to this.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And that was because veterans were like disgruntle about rookies
getting those type of content.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And you know what the problem was is the veterans
then didn't have the ability to look into the future
and say this is actually gonna hurt us. Yeah, And
that was the I'll just put it out there. That
was the ignorance to not being able to see the
fact that just because a rookies gonna come in a
first round draft pick and make X, right, you've got
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experience your negotiating or leverage point. Is it like, oh,
this guy's gonna play for me because he's getting paid more.
That might be part of it for some of those
guys who are first round picks. That's always going to
be the case, Like, well, what do you think a
guy draft in the first round who's got now a
fully guaranteed contract.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Did you think you were gonna play over that guy anyway?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Like, eventually he's gonna be the guy they're already telling
you when they make the draft pick. I don't care
if his contract is a little bit lesser but fully
guaranteed or like it used to be where they're making
bigger dollars. Got what happened was you had a rookie
coming in who was gonna make let's say, thirty million,
whatever it was, and as a veteran, you're like, well, great,
this guy hasn't done jack squat in the league and
(06:23):
I've done all of this, so you've got to pay
me at least that or I'm willing to take a
little less than that, but it's still gonna be more
than what it is now where it completely reset these
rookie draft contracts or the contracts you're before rookies coming out.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Of the draft.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
So that was the beginning of the decline to me
at least, of how the running back position and really
the middle class the NFL has gone away. And furthermore,
they allowed teams to have control of players for up
to seven eight years if you really want. If they're
a first round draft pick, you know, Jonas touched on
it yesterday. You have the fifth year option on a
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first round deal, and you can have two or three
subsequent franchise tags, like the average lifespans three years, and
you could potentially have a player under contract if you
played out that scenario for eight years. And the nfl
PA at no point was like, this is probably not
a great tea, right right, because because they were like,
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well it's unlikely. It's like, okay, but there are going
to be players who are under under control for six years,
for seven years under a tag or two, and so
you know that's right right now. And then that's one
of the biggest issues. And further, I mean I talked
about the other day, you might want to look at
allowing guys to come out being two years removed from
high school. I just think if they get into the
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league a little bit sooner, you know, they've got a
little bit more where they're not facing thirty or staring
it dead in the eyes exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And then have their age used against them when they
want to get that next deal.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Their late you know, late twenties as a running back,
which is like people say, like twenty seven to ancient
as a running back, now in the NFL, it is
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So is that something that could be done or they
got to wait till the next CBA. In order to wait, you.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Have to strike.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And I mean and the problem with that is is,
let's say all the running backs.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Striking, Well, no, because you don't think there's dudes in
the XFL, USFL Canadian Football League are going yep, I'll
take that, like, give me an opportunity, I'll take that.
It talks about I mean, how many of running backs
are we talking about that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
They're saying that.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Listen, they they showed you that they want to see
what Daniel Jones can do. They made the investment in
Daniel Jones. They're showing you they want to see what
Daniel Jones can do if they don't get these guys signed,
which I do think they get these them into camp.
I think Josh Jacobs gets in the camp next week.
I think Saquon gets in the camp. I think they do.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I don't think you'll see any portion of them before
the start of the season.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'll take that over under. You take that over on.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
You're saying, hold on, let's just be specific. So you're saying,
like before week one they're coming in.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think they'll be I think they'll get it done
in the next week or so, get what done.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They'll get them in camp. I think both of them
and Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
What's see incentive for them to show up to camp?
Like all they have to do is be there week
one to get paid for the full season.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I think the tough thing about that is, like if
you want to break precedent, and this is where people
talk about collusion all the time in the NFL, because
you technically could pay the athlete more for the one
year of franchise tender. You technically could do that. But
then the problem is anytime you got another guy in
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a franchise tag and they can't agree to a long
term deal, they're gonna point back that agent's gonna say, well,
do you remember when you when when you guys did
that with Josh Jacobs, or do you remember when you
did that with Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
My client wants that now too.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
We could agree to a long term deal at least
compensate it more for this one year, and then every
other owner is going to go, dude, well now that
you did that, Like I'm gonna be under pressure to
do that, or every single player that comes in subsequently
after that's gonna say, hey, you did it for this player,
do it for my player, do it for my client.
So that's the hard thing is it's it's hard to
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incentivize these guys to come back earlier and even just
pay them more under the one year franchise tender, which
they could do, because it would set a precedent and
no organization wants to set a precedent, Like, no one
wants to do that out of fear of it being
used against them in the future.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
When you hold out, Just so because I want to
be made clear on this, when you hold out after
it's gone past the deadline, what's the purpose of holding
out if you can't get.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
We have to be very particular about how he wore this.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So if they haven't signed the franchise tender yet, they
are under no contractual obligation, so it wouldn't be a holdout.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
So at this point, right, correct?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Like if they just set out the entire season, you
just take the situation that they're.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In now and just run it back.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Run it back, like they didn't accrue an accredited season.
So in the view of the NFL's eyes, they haven't
like aged at all to get to a longer number
in the league to then be able to move past
this scenario.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So the consociation at the time that negotiations reopen, they
can still reduce the tag on them, so slap tail,
slap a tag or do or do a long term extension, which.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
At that point, though, I mean, you would most likely
go your separate way, right, correct, you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Know, because didn't Le'Veon Bell. He held out twice.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
So he held out the first time and he showed
up a last second I think first game of the season.
I think he was there if memory serves me correct,
and he got his twelve million dollars for the franchise
tag number that year, and that counted as his accrued scene,
which led him to want to try and hold out
for the second time, and that would have been the
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fourteen million as it went up, I think there was
at the one hundred and twenty percent. I think on
that it was the fourteen point five and that was
the season he decided to sit out the full.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Year, which which if you look at that, that's the
perfect case study. That's why I brought his name up
for a guy who wasn't drafted in the first round,
so he was on a four year deal.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
He was a second round pick of sand A, Michigan State.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
And the team was able to have control of him
for six years. They had the four years they slapped
the tag on him. He played under the tag, right,
thinking that, hey, if I proved myself again in twenty seventeen,
which he did, you know, they were going to compensate
me for a long term deal.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And they didn't. They just slapped the tag on him
again and they moved forward that way. So, I mean,
I'm not saying I should blame.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
The Pittsburgh Steelers, but I feel like that was really
the first instance of the running back position running into
this conflict. And you know, people were critical of the
decision that Le'Veon Bell made, and I think he's admitted
maybe he would have played it out differently. But the
crazy thing is, like the number he was going to
play for in twenty eighteen under the franchise tag a
(13:11):
second one, and even as first one is more than.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
The franchise tag number is.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Now that's what's crazy is you're talking about five years
later the numbers less.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
By like five million. Yeah, Yeah, four four million. That's
that's significant.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, I mean both those tag years one was two
million more, one was four million more.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
That's five years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's a significant depreciation of value. It just feels like
there's not a lot of options, Like you just that's
what I'm saying, Like, what's the what's the end result?
Like I'm sitting out can result?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Can I share something to you that I kind of
find fascinating too? So in college football, right, we've got name, image,
and likeness, and you know these are this is compensation
that's that's given out the student athletes. That's not supposed
to be tied to their performance on the field. But
I think it's a slippery slope because obviously, if you're
(14:09):
really good at your sport in college athletics, you're gonna
be able to make more money because you're more marketable. Right, Like,
it's directly correlated, even though the NCAA is trying to
tiptoe around it because they want to view them as
an amateurs. They don't want it to be paid for
play whatever. But you know who one of the most
highest paid position groups universally and in football is.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
It's the running back group. The running backs.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Are paid on average about the third highest amount, behind
obviously quarterbacks and wide receivers. So if you look at
the college football level, running backs are valued, and I
think it's because they've got a finite time that they're
going to be there, right, They're going to be there
for you know, one, two, three seasons. I mean, it's
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really hard you find a four year starter anymore. If
they're good enough the start as of freshmen, they're gone.
So they've got this small window of time where they're valued, right.
And and so I think if you apply that model
of at least what we're seeing at the college football level,
where they're they're valued for the short span of time
which they can have a really big impact, I think
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you've got to try to figure out a way of
applying it moving forward to the NFL and say, look,
we need to protect these players where there's a cap
on how long their deals can be. They can't like
and it might it might be where where people are like,
well wait a second, then they're not gonna be able
to make you know, top end value whatever else, not
necessarily if you remove the ability for them to be
franchise tagged, and if you say, hey, look, we're not
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gonna you know, we take away that part so that
that should lessen the amount of control a team can have.
And you let these guys come out from playing college
football sooner, you give them a likelihood of having more
bites at the apple, right, And that's ultimately what it's about,
is that these guys can prove themselves and then press
free agency.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
You know, you hope that they'll at least be able
to make more.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But the problem they're always going to run into is
there's so many good running backs that come out into
the league every year from college football, and so no
matter what you do and what the running backs now
are pushing for, that's still gonna be the biggest issue
is there's you know, ten guys who are going to
be entering into the league trying to take their job
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that are going to be cheaper labor.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
There's really nothing you can do to stop.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
That, and nothing you can do anytime soon because it's
already set in the CBA. What the what the parameters
are of the whole thing. It's just, man, they're screwed.
I don't know, I just they're just screwed. Like it
just is what it is. Meanwhile, Zeke still out there
looking for work. Dalvin Cook still out there. Even though
the Patriots are favored to sign Dalvin Cook still seeks still.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Have the nose ring when he comes back. That's what
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He better don't change he who you are? He does
he still have the big hair? He should? Yeah, I
would think.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
With a nose ring, there's a chance you get that
thing stuck on like a jersey or you know something.
I mean, you know you've been under those piles of ar,
Like somebody gets their hand in there.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Someone could rip that thing.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I would rip it out if I could. That's what
I'm saying, Like it's a reliability. I mean, but it's
a part of the field.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
So as somebody who had a Lebrett at one point,
whe I would have pulled it right on out. Yeah,
but I wouldn't have borne it because with the chin strap.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
What the hell did you just say a Brett?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, that's what he had, the proper he had the
proper terminology for a piercing under his bottom lip.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, you know that's what I had. I had that.
I had that in the cartilage piercing. Hol did not
have a tongue ring you had.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You had a piercing, You had a piercing of your
soul patches?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Was some move back in the day? Where is Yeah?
Damn is it? Why is it called a French tickler?
Why French? Like nobody else's ticklish? Come by it?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Whoa, it sounds better if it's a French tarticler versus
it feels like an Italian table.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Maybe it's a texture converse.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
That doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
This is a texture thing.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, maybe do you have documented proof of this?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean somewhere. Yeah, I think I do somewhere.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Actually, I don't think I want to see it. It's
like someone who you really respect and then you go
on their social media page and you're like, oh, I
don't I don't want to see that.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I had this image.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well you've got a tattoo there. It changes everything.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, I sort of got it. Went.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I went to the hard Word store earlier the other
day and I was waiting to go inside before and open,
and I happen to look. I called my wife about
something that see if she needed something from there, and
I had to like glance over my left. This dude
gets out of his car his shirts. You know sometimes
your shirt gets like caught in the back of your shorts. Yeah,
and he like pulls it out right and like it
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reveals a tramp stamp on the back.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Why was I about to ask the same questions?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Bro, I was like, how you guys feel about ba tattoos?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
That I did not need to see that at seven am.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Now are you sure it was that or was it
like cupping?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
He got? He just it was a.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Full blown like it was long enough to see like,
that is not cupping, that's attacked. It didn't look like
an octopus sucked on his back.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
It doesn't birthmark, not going with birthmark, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
That was a full blown.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So so that's good if you have a lower back
tattoo like that right in.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The middle of your back.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
This was like lower back, right.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Lower lower back.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, Iowa, Sam has an autograph from Nate Stanley.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
On his back. Yeah, like real lower back. I cannot
confirm or deny. Oh, I believe that's that's true.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
That just confirms it in today's society.
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We're going to have a discussion about one team in
the NFL that thinks they are real contenders.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We'll tell you who that is here on FSR.
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oh oh wrong verse?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You're the only one good in blended Jusef Fruit. Yeah
that's my nickname. Y'all say it again?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Juicy?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, oh beautiful.
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Speaker 6 (21:16):
All right, it is Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here Fox Sports Radio. He's lebar Arrington, I'm Jonas Knox.
That guy's Brady Quinn. Coming up here later on this hour,
we are gonna have our midweek Awards. All right, So
we're gonna have another edition of the Good, the Bad,
the Ugly to make sure you stick around for that.
That'll happen a little over fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR. So apparently Tua tuga Iloa is optimistic about
(21:39):
the Miami Dolphins so much so that he told Joe
Shadd of the Palm Beach Post that quote, I think
we're definitely legit contenders, and then talked about the offense
and everything they've got going on there, the explosiveness, so
on and so forth, and who knows this could even
be before they add Dalvin Cook. As we've talked about,
the Patriots are the favorite to land him according to
(21:59):
Dress Kings, but you've got the Miami Dolphins and are
also in the mix as well too.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So it does feel like this is a team.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
And I don't know that you know, anybody looks at
the Miami on the same level as say Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But we're gonna be fair about it.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
This was a team that played Buffalo really competitive last year,
and with a backup quarterback in Buffalo in a playoff game,
was in that game the entire way, So yes to it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It does seem like you are a.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Legitimate contender this upcoming season fun times in South?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Isn't this what we expect every player to say, Like,
can I just try to try something? I'm to play
the interviewer or reporter role, and LeVar, you're going to
be the star athlete.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
So LeVar, the upcoming season, it's a big one for you. Guys.
How do you feel about your chances?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I feel good. I feel good about our chances.
We're healthy, we got some great, great guys, finally got
some stability with our coaching. You know, we know this game.
We feel good. We looked at our schedule.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean, did you want to win a super Bowl?
I mean, aren't you trying to win a super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, isn't it always super Bowl or bus Like, you've
got to get that super Bowl? I got to try
to get one. You know.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Then what's the headline?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
LaVar Arrington says, guarantees, guarantee super Bowl or bust.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Okay, But in fairness, you think anybody on the Arizona
Cardinals is like we're winning.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
A super Bowl? They think yes, I know, they have
to know they're gonna get you.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Put your ass on the line. Come on, not enough
to meet there.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They have to know, they have to know they're going
to be a bad football team. They have to there
are season win totals four and a half. Come on,
they still thinking it? Man?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Really, yeah, everyone, you gotta believe. You've got to be
crazy enough to think that you're going to surprise everyone.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, and when does that go away?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Five weeks in the sea, we stink. I know from experience, Like.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You're like, oh, it's no battle, man, let me try
it out again.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
We gotta we gotta figure out some things.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
How many did you either start saying your team sucks
or you start blaming. You got the blamers.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, then you got guys to start pointing.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh they will start they'll they'll start selling you out quick.
Because when you losing, you start to see guys come
in on Mondays. You start seeing tryouts take place, like, wait,
that's my position group.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They they they taking my position group out the workout?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Like what hey, man, what are you doing here? It's
not my fault, it's yours.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You start pointing people out real quick, like man, I
saw so many big names.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I remember one time.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I can't walking into.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We were only five. I was like Hey man, that's
the rocket.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Ishmaile, there's the rocket. What's up?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Man?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
They get ready to do a workout, oh man, and they.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Bring it in.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Dudes, you're losing somebody. They're looking to replace somebody. Somebody's
about to lose. Gets about it.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
But that's the thing is, like you could have, you
could have some sorry coaches like I was. I was
fortunate and where that wasn't the case, at least not
at the quarterback position. I think it's probably easier for
those guys to get exposed at the NFL level if
you're not good.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
But man, there's some other position coaches.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Out there where it's like flying a plane with duct tape,
like they're just trying to hold it together to land
the plane. And you're sitting there thinking, like, these guys
come out to practice, they're not even prepared because their
coach is awful.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And there's a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But guess what, that player is gonna get benched before
that position coach or that coordinator gets fired.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
That's always how it works.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I'm trying to think what that would be like in
everyday life, Like could you like if somebody just walked
in here and like, hey, what are you doing. I'm
doing another show or in the other studio in your time.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
So well you do that later on on AM five seventy.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Anyway, that's listen, I'm just helping out, trying to help
out here, all right, that's just you trying to.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Spread you be you be needing to wipe your nose off?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Man?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Who's that you me? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Why do war? You know?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You be need to wipe that nose? Bro Is it
white or brown? Is it better to be white? I mean,
it's better to be your natural color.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
So can I ask you this though, on the subject
of the Dolphins being legit contenders? How many teams would
you say, right now in the AFC, without a shadow
of a doubt you have better than Miami?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
How far down that list better? Yests would be a
better question.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I mean you could say Casey obviously, Buffalo Cincy.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I would I would say Casey sincey, I I think
Miami is better than Buffalo this year. You might be right.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I would say the Odds though, probably have our favorite Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Probably, They're probably favoring the Jets too.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You're both You're both probably right, but Miami might be
as good, if not better than all of those.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
What about Jacksonville, You put Jacksonville ahead of Miamy.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Jacksonville's a little further down, but Jacksonville's in. Like even Baltimore,
if you'll get Super Bowl odds Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Why not they got Lamar. Of course I'd put Baltimore
ahead of him.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, see that.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I just I trust Lamar. I trust Lamar getting them there.
And I think with what they've got, if Todd Mouckin
can do what I think he's gonna do. And I'm
telling you right now, man, this Save Flowers Kid's gonna
be special.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Right now, Like he's got I'll go back and just
say it. He's got and I'm not saying off the field.
On the field, he's got some Antonio Brown like that's
that's the way he moves, how twitchy he is, his
start stop like.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
He's probably a little smaller, I.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Think maybe than Antonio Brown, but nine Yeah, that's what
he reminds me of.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Though, Florida kid too, right out of Fort Lauderdale. So
there you go we're talking about here. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
See, Labar's got the West coast lockdown.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I kind of got the southeast or Eastern Florida lockdown.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I got, I got to Ohio and Illinois.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Yeah, I'm just saying I just spent a month back
there when people, multiple people told me, tell Jonas, get
our name, get our state name out of his mouth.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And that's what they said.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
That is so insulting, said, get my name at your mouth.
I got connections out there. I don't have anything I do.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Listen the second I was brought into a group chain
with Pat, you haven't been a long time.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, but it would happen once.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
It's all the matters Pat, the meat Wagon and Chopper
that one time, yes, one time.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Once all I needed.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
My gonna apply to a lot of things. Jonas, you
know what gon have once?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, Fireman puts that one. Somebody puts that one. Fire
on the dogs once in his life. Oh, a blind
squirrel finds an acorn at least one time in his life.
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Coming up top of next hour, there's a correction that's
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Coming up a little over ten minutes from now. Is
(31:04):
this Dave Matthews band say that the same band that
released a bucket of crap over the Chicago River and
didn't realize there was people taking a tour on the
on the water.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It is down below.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
You imagine that you're taking a tour on the water
the Chicago River, like the Architecture Tour, and all of
a sudden, Dave Matthews Band's tour bust decides to empty
their toilets.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh wow, why would they empty there?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh man, So there it is some Dave Matthews band
from Iowa. Sam for No, that's not all they're known
for me. They also made you know a lot of
music too, So yeah, whatever. The drummer's pretty good though,
Yeah whatever, yeah drummers. It's just not as good of
a story as them dumping crap all over people. Did
they get sued sued? Right?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I mean it has to be a legal dumping, right,
I mean literally and figure.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To legal dumah.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
But it's like any amount of money worth getting cracked, Like, oh,
look look.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
At that in this world.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yes, the powerball ticket for a winning Powerball ticket, I
think someone would be willing to endure that.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, yeah, I guess you're right. People do it for free.
How much is it? Nine hundred million?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Did anyone win?
Speaker 10 (32:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nobody want On Tuesday, it's gonna be a billion over
a billion.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
By the way, someone explained to me, like, I don't
remember the jackpots being as big.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Yeah, we're struggling financially in this country, but we've got
billion dollars jack.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
It's like they've never used to be this big, Like,
are people just not like buying them as much?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Is that? Is that the issue?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I mean, it doesn't make any sense though, because isn't
the amount of tickets sold having a direct correlation with
the amount of how much it's it's going for.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, it feels like Shenanigans to me. We're not being
told the truth.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's you're paying out that amount. Imagine how much they're
bringing in.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
By the way, I'm checking my uh mega millions right
now said mega millions is up to a pretty substantial amount.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think it was like four hundred something million. And
I'm trying to see he really has.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I'm looking to see if I got and no, I
didn't even get like one, not even one number Mega
millions and Powerball, but collectively kiss my numbers, did you
get I'm sick of this crew. Rip it up like
I'm just tired of it. Like what not even one?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Dabas is going to win one of these times and
he's still going to come into work.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That's the type of guy.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Tell anybody.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
He's going to bring back that piercing whatever you call it.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
That'll be the sign. That'll be my flare gun that
I want to have a Brett piercing.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
And I give zero as he's just what he wants to.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
and it is time here on this show for a
little something we do and we haven't done. All three
of us done this and quite a but it's time
to hand out some awards.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
All right, lead to laugh. Who's got what well? As
we do each and every Wednesday, we start with the
good and you know it's a good week because Brady's
got the good this week.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, what are you serious?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's right, baby?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Wow, thanks guys.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I love having good Come on, this just doesn't seem
to ever happened for me. I got two ones that,
both both in golf. Steph Curry at the American Century
Championship was phenomenal. He hit an eagle putt to win it,
which we already know is clutching basketball. The fact that
do that in golf is pretty remarkable. Had a hole
(34:47):
in one two during his time out there in Tahoe
that was pretty incredible. And then Warrey McElroy what in
the Scottish Open, uh, going birdie, birdie the final two
holes pretty clutch to go in and win.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So I look, I love golf.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Both those guys this past week were extremely clutched. And
for all those who are like, why are you talking
about golf, it's that side of your folks.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
There's really not.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Much more we can dive into outside of the football
scores that we saw in baseball last night.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah what oh, who's got the badly? Can't have good
without the bad? Jonas what's bad this week?
Speaker 6 (35:22):
That is the length of the final at Wimbledon. I
don't get it in this day and age, when you've
got every sport trying to figure out a way to
speed up the game, to try and keep people's attention
only for a certain amount of time, because they realize,
you know, if it's longer than two minutes, or it's
longer than this, they start to veer in a different direction.
(35:45):
Tennis decides, you know what, just give us five hours
of your Sunday and we'll go ahead and make good
on the back end. Don't worry about Everything's fine, Listen.
They're great athletes, incredible athletes. You know, the man they
call Novak's Djokovic put on a hell of a perfemance
running through a lot of younger players and you got,
you know, alcatraz Or whatever his name is. He's put
(36:07):
together quite a run there in at Wimbledon and winning
it at twenty years old. There's videos of him playing
at fourteen against professionals. Alkaraz is awesome, but five hours,
five hours, eliminate some of these sets or games, speed
up the process and get with the times.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Here.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Baseball's doing it, everybody else is doing I think tennis
should do it as well too.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
He did one game in there that was twenty seven minutes.
It was awesome. Guys, uh Var Kapusov, what was ugly
this week?
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what was ugly? Yeah, I'll
tell you what was ugly? Yeah? You got a whole
bunch of running backs. They ain't got no deals.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They's sitting at home, not on their wheels, sitting at home.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Ain't got deals, sitting at home, ain't got no deals.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
There you go, well, they ain't got no deal.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I did not see that coming up here, up in
here getting why don't we.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Get Saquon Barkley on you connecte that time? Yeah, he's
not going to camp, it's too soon.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Why not? That is that is a little bad man?
I mean, honestly, like I uh i don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I honestly don't know that it's gonna change, Like, I'm
not sure how it changes.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Do you think that the decision for them not to
give Daniel Jones a fifth year option is the reason
why they're there with.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Where they're at with Saquon Barkley. Had they had they
slapped the fifth year option on day.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah, because then they can kick the can down the road.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
They could have probably had a little more cap space
this year at least to go into that deal.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But they might have been it up there anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Like, I don't know what Saquon's asking for if they're
too a part.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I mean, that's what we hear. We don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, it's a shame we are. Baby, well, hold on now,
don't don't try to do it that way. What do
you mean that's a shame?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Like, hey, but we are up?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Hold up insulting me that ad a Duke player got
paid but a Penn State player.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Didn't, you know, get a messed up?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Wow, messed up man, I'll see what you did.
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Speaker 2 (00:49):
I got fatigue. I ain't on that after last week? Bro,
they did it every every top of the hour. Wait
did they really? Yes, yes, every top of hour. You
didn't get our intro for any of the hours. No, man,
you needed that banger to start the show. It would
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not last week in spirit? Maybe in spirit we're here, babe.
That s was torture. Bro.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
What I was looking at Lee, like, what are we
going to talk about?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I have no idea what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
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about in the b Q News.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
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Speaker 5 (01:32):
Got we got one segment that like we need to
have some real talk about because there is an absolute
superstar who continually keeps getting screwed over.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
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Speaker 6 (02:14):
So you guys know how in Hollywood they've got this
strike going on. It was the writers and then it's uh,
you know SAG like members of the actors going round. Yeah,
it's the actors and the writers. So they're protesting, they're picketing.
Lee was telling me that it's the first time since
like the sixties they've been on strike at the same time,
(02:34):
and they're trying to enact change. They've got artificial intelligence
that is threatening their their jobs. They're just like, all
this stuff is that, And so they're they're picketing and
you know, making it be known that they are unhappy,
and everybody's out there in ninety five degree weather making
this happen in Los Angeles and the equivalent to that
in the NFL is apparently running backs.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh that's where you were going with it. They've set
up a group text, so they're organized. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I don't know which is going to be more effective
and trying to get what you want. But I'm going
to lead on the side of I'm not sure that
this group text is going to get a lot done
as far as increasing the wages for running backs around
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Call me crazy.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
It just feels like maybe there needs to be something
more done than Austin Eckler and Dalvin Cook and the
rest of these guys getting on a group chat saying
we're not being paid enough. Let's come up with some
plans here. If it's already worked into the CBA, I
don't know how this gets changed anytime soon. It just
feels like we're kind of spinning our wheels here with
(03:36):
this whole conversation. It sucks for them, but it feels
like there's not a whole lot that can be done
right now.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I mean, what is there to be done?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
I meant the first thing I would do is I
would be all over the NFLPA for not trying to
look at the running back group and position and acknowledge
that for years now this has been a problem. This
isn't the first year that we're seeing a free agency
or players who are in a negotiation under the franchise
(04:08):
tag that it's not working out. Like we saw this
with Le'Veon Bell, who initially kind of felt like he
wasn't being compensated what his worth was. That was five
years ago, right, So this isn't the first time that
we've seen this. In fact, I think probably since around
that point, you've seen a decline. And you really could
(04:29):
go back to the twenty eleven CBA that was negotiated
and look at what that CBA set up for twelve
years later and how the middle class is gone in
the NFL, and it most mostly impacted the running back position.
There's other position groups too that we could talk about.
(04:53):
In regards to veterans. But that singular decision to slot
the rookie draft salary pool where now each draft pick
is slotted at an X amount and it goes up
an X percent per year, that singular decision to agree
to that as an NFLPA, which it wasn't like that before,
has ultimately led to this.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
And that was because veterans were like disgruntle about rookies
getting those type of content.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
And you know what the problem was is the veterans
then didn't have the ability to look into the future
and say this is actually gonna hurt us. Yeah, And
that was the I'll just put it out there. That
was the ignorance to not being able to see the
fact that just because a rookies gonna come in a
first round draft pick and make X, right, you've got
(05:40):
experience your negotiating or leverage point. Is it like, oh,
this guy's gonna play for me because he's getting paid more.
That might be part of it for some of those
guys who are first round picks. That's always going to
be the case, Like, well, what do you think a
guy draft in the first round who's got now a
fully guaranteed contract.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Did you think you were gonna play over that guy anyway?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Like, eventually he's gonna be the guy they're already telling
you when they make the draft pick. I don't care
if his contract is a little bit lesser but fully
guaranteed or like it used to be where they're making
bigger dollars. Got what happened was you had a rookie
coming in who was gonna make let's say, thirty million,
whatever it was, and as a veteran, you're like, well, great,
this guy hasn't done jack squat in the league and
(06:23):
I've done all of this, so you've got to pay
me at least that or I'm willing to take a
little less than that, but it's still gonna be more
than what it is now where it completely reset these
rookie draft contracts or the contracts you're before rookies coming out.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Of the draft.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
So that was the beginning of the decline to me
at least, of how the running back position and really
the middle class the NFL has gone away. And furthermore,
they allowed teams to have control of players for up
to seven eight years if you really want. If they're
a first round draft pick, you know, Jonas touched on
it yesterday. You have the fifth year option on a
(07:00):
first round deal, and you can have two or three
subsequent franchise tags, like the average lifespans three years, and
you could potentially have a player under contract if you
played out that scenario for eight years. And the nfl
PA at no point was like, this is probably not
a great tea, right right, because because they were like,
(07:21):
well it's unlikely. It's like, okay, but there are going
to be players who are under under control for six years,
for seven years under a tag or two, and so
you know that's right right now. And then that's one
of the biggest issues. And further, I mean I talked
about the other day, you might want to look at
allowing guys to come out being two years removed from
high school. I just think if they get into the
(07:43):
league a little bit sooner, you know, they've got a
little bit more where they're not facing thirty or staring
it dead in the eyes exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And then have their age used against them when they
want to get that next deal.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Their late you know, late twenties as a running back,
which is like people say, like twenty seven to ancient
as a running back, now in the NFL, it is
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
So is that something that could be done or they
got to wait till the next CBA. In order to wait, you.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Have to strike.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And I mean and the problem with that is is,
let's say all the running backs.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Striking, Well, no, because you don't think there's dudes in
the XFL, USFL Canadian Football League are going yep, I'll
take that, like, give me an opportunity, I'll take that.
It talks about I mean, how many of running backs
are we talking about that.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
They're saying that.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Listen, they they showed you that they want to see
what Daniel Jones can do. They made the investment in
Daniel Jones. They're showing you they want to see what
Daniel Jones can do if they don't get these guys signed,
which I do think they get these them into camp.
I think Josh Jacobs gets in the camp next week.
I think Saquon gets in the camp. I think they do.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I don't think you'll see any portion of them before
the start of the season.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
I'll take that over under. You take that over on.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
You're saying, hold on, let's just be specific. So you're saying,
like before week one they're coming in.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I think they'll be I think they'll get it done
in the next week or so, get what done.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
They'll get them in camp. I think both of them
and Josh Jacobs.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
What's see incentive for them to show up to camp?
Like all they have to do is be there week
one to get paid for the full season.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I think the tough thing about that is, like if
you want to break precedent, and this is where people
talk about collusion all the time in the NFL, because
you technically could pay the athlete more for the one
year of franchise tender. You technically could do that. But
then the problem is anytime you got another guy in
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a franchise tag and they can't agree to a long
term deal, they're gonna point back that agent's gonna say, well,
do you remember when you when when you guys did
that with Josh Jacobs, or do you remember when you
did that with Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
My client wants that now too.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
We could agree to a long term deal at least
compensate it more for this one year, and then every
other owner is going to go, dude, well now that
you did that, Like I'm gonna be under pressure to
do that, or every single player that comes in subsequently
after that's gonna say, hey, you did it for this player,
do it for my player, do it for my client.
So that's the hard thing is it's it's hard to
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incentivize these guys to come back earlier and even just
pay them more under the one year franchise tender, which
they could do, because it would set a precedent and
no organization wants to set a precedent, Like, no one
wants to do that out of fear of it being
used against them in the future.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
When you hold out, Just so because I want to
be made clear on this, when you hold out after
it's gone past the deadline, what's the purpose of holding
out if you can't get.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
We have to be very particular about how he wore this.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So if they haven't signed the franchise tender yet, they
are under no contractual obligation, so it wouldn't be a holdout.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
So at this point, right, correct?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Like if they just set out the entire season, you
just take the situation that they're.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
In now and just run it back.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Run it back, like they didn't accrue an accredited season.
So in the view of the NFL's eyes, they haven't
like aged at all to get to a longer number
in the league to then be able to move past
this scenario.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
So the consociation at the time that negotiations reopen, they
can still reduce the tag on them, so slap tail,
slap a tag or do or do a long term extension, which.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
At that point, though, I mean, you would most likely
go your separate way, right, correct, you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Know, because didn't Le'Veon Bell. He held out twice.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
So he held out the first time and he showed
up a last second I think first game of the season.
I think he was there if memory serves me correct,
and he got his twelve million dollars for the franchise
tag number that year, and that counted as his accrued scene,
which led him to want to try and hold out
for the second time, and that would have been the
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fourteen million as it went up, I think there was
at the one hundred and twenty percent. I think on
that it was the fourteen point five and that was
the season he decided to sit out the full.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Year, which which if you look at that, that's the
perfect case study. That's why I brought his name up
for a guy who wasn't drafted in the first round,
so he was on a four year deal.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
He was a second round pick of sand A, Michigan State.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
And the team was able to have control of him
for six years. They had the four years they slapped
the tag on him. He played under the tag, right,
thinking that, hey, if I proved myself again in twenty seventeen,
which he did, you know, they were going to compensate
me for a long term deal.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And they didn't. They just slapped the tag on him
again and they moved forward that way. So, I mean,
I'm not saying I should blame.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
The Pittsburgh Steelers, but I feel like that was really
the first instance of the running back position running into
this conflict. And you know, people were critical of the
decision that Le'Veon Bell made, and I think he's admitted
maybe he would have played it out differently. But the
crazy thing is, like the number he was going to
play for in twenty eighteen under the franchise tag a
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second one, and even as first one is more than.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
The franchise tag number is.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Now that's what's crazy is you're talking about five years
later the numbers less.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
By like five million. Yeah, Yeah, four four million. That's
that's significant.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Yeah, I mean both those tag years one was two
million more, one was four million more.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
That's five years ago.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
That's a significant depreciation of value. It just feels like
there's not a lot of options, Like you just that's
what I'm saying, Like, what's the what's the end result?
Like I'm sitting out can result?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Can I share something to you that I kind of
find fascinating too? So in college football, right, we've got name, image,
and likeness, and you know these are this is compensation
that's that's given out the student athletes. That's not supposed
to be tied to their performance on the field. But
I think it's a slippery slope because obviously, if you're
(14:09):
really good at your sport in college athletics, you're gonna
be able to make more money because you're more marketable. Right, Like,
it's directly correlated, even though the NCAA is trying to
tiptoe around it because they want to view them as
an amateurs. They don't want it to be paid for
play whatever. But you know who one of the most
highest paid position groups universally and in football is.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
It's the running back group. The running backs.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
Are paid on average about the third highest amount, behind
obviously quarterbacks and wide receivers. So if you look at
the college football level, running backs are valued, and I
think it's because they've got a finite time that they're
going to be there, right, They're going to be there
for you know, one, two, three seasons. I mean, it's
(14:58):
really hard you find a four year starter anymore. If
they're good enough the start as of freshmen, they're gone.
So they've got this small window of time where they're valued, right.
And and so I think if you apply that model
of at least what we're seeing at the college football level,
where they're they're valued for the short span of time
which they can have a really big impact, I think
(15:20):
you've got to try to figure out a way of
applying it moving forward to the NFL and say, look,
we need to protect these players where there's a cap
on how long their deals can be. They can't like
and it might it might be where where people are like,
well wait a second, then they're not gonna be able
to make you know, top end value whatever else, not
necessarily if you remove the ability for them to be
franchise tagged, and if you say, hey, look, we're not
(15:40):
gonna you know, we take away that part so that
that should lessen the amount of control a team can have.
And you let these guys come out from playing college
football sooner, you give them a likelihood of having more
bites at the apple, right, And that's ultimately what it's about,
is that these guys can prove themselves and then press
free agency.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
You know, you hope that they'll at least be able
to make more.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But the problem they're always going to run into is
there's so many good running backs that come out into
the league every year from college football, and so no
matter what you do and what the running backs now
are pushing for, that's still gonna be the biggest issue
is there's you know, ten guys who are going to
be entering into the league trying to take their job
(16:25):
that are going to be cheaper labor.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
There's really nothing you can do to stop.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
That, and nothing you can do anytime soon because it's
already set in the CBA. What the what the parameters
are of the whole thing. It's just, man, they're screwed.
I don't know, I just they're just screwed. Like it
just is what it is. Meanwhile, Zeke still out there
looking for work. Dalvin Cook still out there. Even though
the Patriots are favored to sign Dalvin Cook still seeks still.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Have the nose ring when he comes back. That's what
I want to know.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
He better don't change he who you are? He does
he still have the big hair? He should? Yeah, I
would think.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
With a nose ring, there's a chance you get that
thing stuck on like a jersey or you know something.
I mean, you know you've been under those piles of ar,
Like somebody gets their hand in there.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Someone could rip that thing.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I would rip it out if I could. That's what
I'm saying, Like it's a reliability. I mean, but it's
a part of the field.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
So as somebody who had a Lebrett at one point,
whe I would have pulled it right on out. Yeah,
but I wouldn't have borne it because with the chin strap.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
What the hell did you just say a Brett?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, that's what he had, the proper he had the
proper terminology for a piercing under his bottom lip.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, you know that's what I had. I had that.
I had that in the cartilage piercing. Hol did not
have a tongue ring you had.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
You had a piercing, You had a piercing of your
soul patches?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Was some move back in the day? Where is Yeah?
Damn is it? Why is it called a French tickler?
Why French? Like nobody else's ticklish? Come by it?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Whoa, it sounds better if it's a French tarticler versus
it feels like an Italian table.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Maybe it's a texture converse.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
That doesn't sound right.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
This is a texture thing.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, maybe do you have documented proof of this?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I mean somewhere. Yeah, I think I do somewhere.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Actually, I don't think I want to see it. It's
like someone who you really respect and then you go
on their social media page and you're like, oh, I
don't I don't want to see that.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I had this image.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well you've got a tattoo there. It changes everything.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, I sort of got it. Went.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
I went to the hard Word store earlier the other
day and I was waiting to go inside before and open,
and I happen to look. I called my wife about
something that see if she needed something from there, and
I had to like glance over my left. This dude
gets out of his car his shirts. You know sometimes
your shirt gets like caught in the back of your shorts. Yeah,
and he like pulls it out right and like it
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reveals a tramp stamp on the back.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Why was I about to ask the same questions?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Bro, I was like, how you guys feel about ba tattoos?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
That I did not need to see that at seven am.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Now are you sure it was that or was it
like cupping?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
He got? He just it was a.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Full blown like it was long enough to see like,
that is not cupping, that's attacked. It didn't look like
an octopus sucked on his back.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
It doesn't birthmark, not going with birthmark, nothing like that.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
That was a full blown.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
So so that's good if you have a lower back
tattoo like that right in.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The middle of your back.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
This was like lower back, right.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Lower lower back.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yeah, Iowa, Sam has an autograph from Nate Stanley.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
On his back. Yeah, like real lower back. I cannot
confirm or deny. Oh, I believe that's that's true.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
That just confirms it in today's society.
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We're going to have a discussion about one team in
the NFL that thinks they are real contenders.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We'll tell you who that is here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (20:34):
You're much a good thing, Chocolate star, dude, watch what
oh oh wrong verse?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You're the only one good in blended Jusef Fruit. Yeah
that's my nickname. Y'all say it again?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Juicy?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yeah, oh beautiful.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, they call me Tuesday Fruit.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
Uh ah, oh no, oh no, that happened.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
All right, it is Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here Fox Sports Radio. He's lebar Arrington, I'm Jonas Knox.
That guy's Brady Quinn. Coming up here later on this hour,
we are gonna have our midweek Awards. All right, So
we're gonna have another edition of the Good, the Bad,
the Ugly to make sure you stick around for that.
That'll happen a little over fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR. So apparently Tua tuga Iloa is optimistic about
(21:39):
the Miami Dolphins so much so that he told Joe
Shadd of the Palm Beach Post that quote, I think
we're definitely legit contenders, and then talked about the offense
and everything they've got going on there, the explosiveness, so
on and so forth, and who knows this could even
be before they add Dalvin Cook. As we've talked about,
the Patriots are the favorite to land him according to
(21:59):
Dress Kings, but you've got the Miami Dolphins and are
also in the mix as well too.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So it does feel like this is a team.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
And I don't know that you know, anybody looks at
the Miami on the same level as say Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
But we're gonna be fair about it.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
This was a team that played Buffalo really competitive last year,
and with a backup quarterback in Buffalo in a playoff game,
was in that game the entire way, So yes to it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It does seem like you are a.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Legitimate contender this upcoming season fun times in South?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Isn't this what we expect every player to say, Like,
can I just try to try something? I'm to play
the interviewer or reporter role, and LeVar, you're going to
be the star athlete.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
So LeVar, the upcoming season, it's a big one for you. Guys.
How do you feel about your chances?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, I feel good. I feel good about our chances.
We're healthy, we got some great, great guys, finally got
some stability with our coaching. You know, we know this game.
We feel good. We looked at our schedule.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I mean, did you want to win a super Bowl?
I mean, aren't you trying to win a super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, isn't it always super Bowl or bus Like, you've
got to get that super Bowl? I got to try
to get one. You know.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Then what's the headline?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
LaVar Arrington says, guarantees, guarantee super Bowl or bust.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Okay, But in fairness, you think anybody on the Arizona
Cardinals is like we're winning.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
A super Bowl? They think yes, I know, they have
to know they're gonna get you.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Put your ass on the line. Come on, not enough
to meet there.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They have to know, they have to know they're going
to be a bad football team. They have to there
are season win totals four and a half. Come on,
they still thinking it? Man?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Really, yeah, everyone, you gotta believe. You've got to be
crazy enough to think that you're going to surprise everyone.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Okay, and when does that go away?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Five weeks in the sea, we stink. I know from experience, Like.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
You're like, oh, it's no battle, man, let me try
it out again.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
We gotta we gotta figure out some things.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
How many did you either start saying your team sucks
or you start blaming. You got the blamers.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Yeah, then you got guys to start pointing.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh they will start they'll they'll start selling you out quick.
Because when you losing, you start to see guys come
in on Mondays. You start seeing tryouts take place, like, wait,
that's my position group.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
They they they taking my position group out the workout?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Like what hey, man, what are you doing here? It's
not my fault, it's yours.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
You start pointing people out real quick, like man, I
saw so many big names.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I remember one time.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I can't walking into.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We were only five. I was like Hey man, that's
the rocket.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Ishmaile, there's the rocket. What's up?
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Man?
Speaker 2 (24:53):
They get ready to do a workout, oh man, and they.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Bring it in.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Dudes, you're losing somebody. They're looking to replace somebody. Somebody's
about to lose. Gets about it.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
But that's the thing is, like you could have, you
could have some sorry coaches like I was. I was
fortunate and where that wasn't the case, at least not
at the quarterback position. I think it's probably easier for
those guys to get exposed at the NFL level if
you're not good.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
But man, there's some other position coaches.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Out there where it's like flying a plane with duct tape,
like they're just trying to hold it together to land
the plane. And you're sitting there thinking, like, these guys
come out to practice, they're not even prepared because their
coach is awful.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
And there's a lot of that.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
But guess what, that player is gonna get benched before
that position coach or that coordinator gets fired.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
That's always how it works.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I'm trying to think what that would be like in
everyday life, Like could you like if somebody just walked
in here and like, hey, what are you doing. I'm
doing another show or in the other studio in your time.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
So well you do that later on on AM five seventy.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
Anyway, that's listen, I'm just helping out, trying to help
out here, all right, that's just you trying to.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Spread you be you be needing to wipe your nose off?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Man?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Who's that you me? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Why do war? You know?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
You be need to wipe that nose? Bro Is it
white or brown? Is it better to be white? I mean,
it's better to be your natural color.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
So can I ask you this though, on the subject
of the Dolphins being legit contenders? How many teams would
you say, right now in the AFC, without a shadow
of a doubt you have better than Miami?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
How far down that list better? Yests would be a
better question.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I mean you could say Casey obviously, Buffalo Cincy.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I would I would say Casey sincey, I I think
Miami is better than Buffalo this year. You might be right.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I would say the Odds though, probably have our favorite Buffalo.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Probably, They're probably favoring the Jets too.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You're both You're both probably right, but Miami might be
as good, if not better than all of those.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
What about Jacksonville, You put Jacksonville ahead of Miamy.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Jacksonville's a little further down, but Jacksonville's in. Like even Baltimore,
if you'll get Super Bowl odds Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Why not they got Lamar. Of course I'd put Baltimore
ahead of him.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, see that.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
I just I trust Lamar. I trust Lamar getting them there.
And I think with what they've got, if Todd Mouckin
can do what I think he's gonna do. And I'm
telling you right now, man, this Save Flowers Kid's gonna
be special.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Right now, Like he's got I'll go back and just
say it. He's got and I'm not saying off the field.
On the field, he's got some Antonio Brown like that's
that's the way he moves, how twitchy he is, his
start stop like.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
He's probably a little smaller, I.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
Think maybe than Antonio Brown, but nine Yeah, that's what
he reminds me of.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Though, Florida kid too, right out of Fort Lauderdale. So
there you go we're talking about here. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
See, Labar's got the West coast lockdown.
Speaker 5 (28:06):
I kind of got the southeast or Eastern Florida lockdown.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I got, I got to Ohio and Illinois.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
Yeah, I'm just saying I just spent a month back
there when people, multiple people told me, tell Jonas, get
our name, get our state name out of his mouth.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
And that's what they said.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
That is so insulting, said, get my name at your mouth.
I got connections out there. I don't have anything I do.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Listen the second I was brought into a group chain
with Pat, you haven't been a long time.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Yeah, but it would happen once.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
It's all the matters Pat, the meat Wagon and Chopper
that one time, yes, one time.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Once all I needed.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
My gonna apply to a lot of things. Jonas, you
know what gon have once?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, Fireman puts that one. Somebody puts that one. Fire
on the dogs once in his life. Oh, a blind
squirrel finds an acorn at least one time in his life.
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Coming up top of next hour, there's a correction that's
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Coming up a little over ten minutes from now. Is
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this Dave Matthews band say that the same band that
released a bucket of crap over the Chicago River and
didn't realize there was people taking a tour on the
on the water.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
It is down below.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
You imagine that you're taking a tour on the water
the Chicago River, like the Architecture Tour, and all of
a sudden, Dave Matthews Band's tour bust decides to empty
their toilets.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Oh wow, why would they empty there?
Speaker 4 (31:31):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Oh man, So there it is some Dave Matthews band
from Iowa. Sam for No, that's not all they're known
for me. They also made you know a lot of
music too, So yeah, whatever. The drummer's pretty good though,
Yeah whatever, yeah drummers. It's just not as good of
a story as them dumping crap all over people. Did
they get sued sued? Right?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
I mean it has to be a legal dumping, right,
I mean literally and figure.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
To legal dumah.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
But it's like any amount of money worth getting cracked, Like, oh,
look look.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
At that in this world.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yes, the powerball ticket for a winning Powerball ticket, I
think someone would be willing to endure that.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Well, yeah, I guess you're right. People do it for free.
How much is it? Nine hundred million?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Did anyone win?
Speaker 10 (32:28):
No?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Nobody want On Tuesday, it's gonna be a billion over
a billion.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
By the way, someone explained to me, like, I don't
remember the jackpots being as big.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
Yeah, we're struggling financially in this country, but we've got
billion dollars jack.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
It's like they've never used to be this big, Like,
are people just not like buying them as much?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Is that? Is that the issue?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I mean, it doesn't make any sense though, because isn't
the amount of tickets sold having a direct correlation with
the amount of how much it's it's going for.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, it feels like Shenanigans to me. We're not being
told the truth.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
It's you're paying out that amount. Imagine how much they're
bringing in.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
By the way, I'm checking my uh mega millions right
now said mega millions is up to a pretty substantial amount.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
I think it was like four hundred something million. And
I'm trying to see he really has.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I'm looking to see if I got and no, I
didn't even get like one, not even one number Mega
millions and Powerball, but collectively kiss my numbers, did you
get I'm sick of this crew. Rip it up like
I'm just tired of it. Like what not even one?
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Dabas is going to win one of these times and
he's still going to come into work.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That's the type of guy.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Tell anybody.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
He's going to bring back that piercing whatever you call it.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
That'll be the sign. That'll be my flare gun that
I want to have a Brett piercing.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
And I give zero as he's just what he wants to.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
and it is time here on this show for a
little something we do and we haven't done. All three
of us done this and quite a but it's time
to hand out some awards.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
All right, lead to laugh. Who's got what well? As
we do each and every Wednesday, we start with the
good and you know it's a good week because Brady's
got the good this week.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, what are you serious?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's right, baby?
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Wow, thanks guys.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I love having good Come on, this just doesn't seem
to ever happened for me. I got two ones that,
both both in golf. Steph Curry at the American Century
Championship was phenomenal. He hit an eagle putt to win it,
which we already know is clutching basketball. The fact that
do that in golf is pretty remarkable. Had a hole
(34:47):
in one two during his time out there in Tahoe
that was pretty incredible. And then Warrey McElroy what in
the Scottish Open, uh, going birdie, birdie the final two
holes pretty clutch to go in and win.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
So I look, I love golf.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Both those guys this past week were extremely clutched. And
for all those who are like, why are you talking
about golf, it's that side of your folks.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
There's really not.
Speaker 5 (35:11):
Much more we can dive into outside of the football
scores that we saw in baseball last night.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah what oh, who's got the badly? Can't have good
without the bad? Jonas what's bad this week?
Speaker 6 (35:22):
That is the length of the final at Wimbledon. I
don't get it in this day and age, when you've
got every sport trying to figure out a way to
speed up the game, to try and keep people's attention
only for a certain amount of time, because they realize,
you know, if it's longer than two minutes, or it's
longer than this, they start to veer in a different direction.
(35:45):
Tennis decides, you know what, just give us five hours
of your Sunday and we'll go ahead and make good
on the back end. Don't worry about Everything's fine, Listen.
They're great athletes, incredible athletes. You know, the man they
call Novak's Djokovic put on a hell of a perfemance
running through a lot of younger players and you got,
you know, alcatraz Or whatever his name is. He's put
(36:07):
together quite a run there in at Wimbledon and winning
it at twenty years old. There's videos of him playing
at fourteen against professionals. Alkaraz is awesome, but five hours,
five hours, eliminate some of these sets or games, speed
up the process and get with the times.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Here.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Baseball's doing it, everybody else is doing I think tennis
should do it as well too.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
He did one game in there that was twenty seven minutes.
It was awesome. Guys, uh Var Kapusov, what was ugly
this week?
Speaker 10 (36:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what was ugly? Yeah, I'll
tell you what was ugly? Yeah? You got a whole
bunch of running backs. They ain't got no deals.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They's sitting at home, not on their wheels, sitting at home.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Ain't got deals, sitting at home, ain't got no deals.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
There you go, well, they ain't got no deal.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
I did not see that coming up here, up in
here getting why don't we.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Get Saquon Barkley on you connecte that time? Yeah, he's
not going to camp, it's too soon.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Why not? That is that is a little bad man?
I mean, honestly, like I uh i don't know.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I honestly don't know that it's gonna change, Like, I'm
not sure how it changes.
Speaker 6 (37:33):
Do you think that the decision for them not to
give Daniel Jones a fifth year option is the reason
why they're there with.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Where they're at with Saquon Barkley. Had they had they
slapped the fifth year option on day.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah, because then they can kick the can down the road.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
They could have probably had a little more cap space
this year at least to go into that deal.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But they might have been it up there anyway.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Like, I don't know what Saquon's asking for if they're
too a part.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I mean, that's what we hear. We don't know for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, it's a shame we are. Baby, well, hold on now,
don't don't try to do it that way. What do
you mean that's a shame?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Like, hey, but we are up?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
Hold up insulting me that ad a Duke player got
paid but a Penn State player.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Didn't, you know, get a messed up?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Wow, messed up man, I'll see what you did.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
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