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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up on
this Monday edition, No LaVar Arrington, but for good reason.
A major complaint about air travel in twenty twenty three,
so much so that you will hear from LaVar Arrington
as he sits on the floor of an airport with
a landline out to Delta Airlines. So we'll get into
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that for you here. We're also going to have some
conversations about training camp stories in the NFL, like a
running back zoom call that will probably accomplish nothing, Chris
Jones holding out, Jimmy Garoppolo's back, so is Deshaun Watson
and it's not a good thing. Plus real expectations for
Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets, and it's all
yours coming up next here, Two Pros and a cup
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Var Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox normally, but we got
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The way tire buying should be so when it comes
to traveling, apparently on this show, not a whole hell
of a lot of luck when it comes to certain
members of this show trying to travel and get to
certain places in the airport. If anybody follows LeVar Arrington
on social media, if you follow him on Instagram, King
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of the Mammals I believe is his ig account. He
chronicled the situation that was taking place at an airport.
He was at Frontier Days in Cheyenne, Wyoming. Over the
course of the weekend, and apparently one delay led to
two delays, led to three delays, led to a back
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and forth with members of I believe Delta Airlines was
the culprit this time, and LeVar Arrington was last checked
stuck in an airport trying to get back home. Thus
he cannot be on the show today or do the
show today. So if you followed along to this show
and heard any of these stories regarding members of this show,
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it's not quite as bad. I feel like we've actually
seen a little bit of development and some growth here.
We've actually shown some positive upward momentum because in comparison
to what Lee to Lap went through during his travel excursions,
Levar's I mean, he's basically at the taj Maha. Lee
slept outside a train station and was bit by sewer
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rats as he tried to catch a two hour nap
to go shower with bums in a train station bathroom
just to try and make sure he didn't at least
have bo while he had to sleep outside. So, if
anybody's followed along, traveling apparently has been a little bit
of an issue for members of this show. Brady Quinn
and LaVar Arrington is the latest victim of having to
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sit in an airport because the airline seemingly can't get there.
You know what, together, is.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
This why you don't travel?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Is this an example of exactly that's why I travel
by train? I told you that, you.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Know, by train, by train, caboose, that's what.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I do, A little ambtracka you know, hop on Pacific
surfliner Ventura County, drops your right off where you need
to go, No hassle, no nothing.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I have not looked into the saga or the story
that has been LaVar's travels this week. I am curious
though to hear how Frontier days wlent. But I'll have
to go check out his his social media.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well does he does? He leave like a good account
of what happened.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Well, he's sitting. He appears to be sitting in front
of the help desk at an empty Delta Airline portion
of the airport, and he looks like he's got a
phone in his hand or something like that, and he's
leaving this video talking about how unpleasant the help was.
Delta Airlines, I'm gonna put you on blast. He also
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pointed out the fact that he, you know, needs to
get back to his kids because he needs somebody to
take care of his children. He's posting pictures of the
constant delays, so on and so forth. It's just all
I keep hearing is nightmare situations in the in the airports.
Like I don't know, at some point, is this just COVID,
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Like like the airports still are trying to manage having
to deal with people not wanting to work there and
not travel because of COVID, Like, what the hell's going
on with this crab.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
No, there's a bunch of different things going on. I mean,
for starters, I do. I mean, there's some strikes that
have been going on.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I want to say it was the Southwest Pilots.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
I forget which airline most recently was dealing with it.
But there's all sorts. There's usually some sort of work
issue with one of the airlines in regards to like
their union. I think what's happened over time since since
COVID is there's just been a lack of any desire
to like try to help people when they are delayed
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or something's canceled. It's just kind of like, well, like
you know, you could deal with this, just go online,
go talk to a bot, like there's there's really not
many people in person who want to care to.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Deal with that kind of that sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean, everything's got outsourced to like a robot
or a bot online.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
And there's times when I'm like, you'll go to check
in online.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
I will be like, oh, you need to call, but
you'd like literally go through prompts where you still don't
talk to anyone.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And I'm not sure why it's pivoted to that.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It's probably cheaper, you know than having to hire someone
and pay the benefits and everything else, but it's yeah,
it definitely doesn't have anything to do with COVID.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Well, I would say this. If they want to enact change,
apparently the thing to do is get on a zoom call.
Like I don't know if you were familiar with that,
but apparently zoom calls are are the new rave that was.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
The thing to do through COVID, So you're right, yeah,
that would I mean, I guess you could make some
change there, right.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Apparently that was the plan of attack for running backs
in the NFL. Austin Eckler of the Chargers organized a
zoom call with other running backs. Now on that call,
reportedly were Nick Chubb, Saquon Barkley, Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey,
Josh Jacobs. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN says they kicked around ideas,
but there was no major plans to really come out
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of it, so I'm not really sure what the point was.
Nick Chubb actually spoke about the call and sort of
spoke about where they're at and the status of things
as a running back it goes in the NFL. Here's
what we had to say.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Well, I mean, right now, it's just tall, you know,
there's really nothing we can do. We're kind of we're
kind of handcuffed with the situation. But I mean I
feel what I took from it. McCaffrey and Derrick Henry
and Say corn I have a lot of good points,
But the biggest thing is that we're don position that
our production hurts us the most. You know, if we
go out there and run for two thousand yards with
so many carries, the next year, they're going to say,
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you know, you're probably worn down. That's the biggest thing
that I took from It's just it's tough. You know,
it hurts us just to go to go out there.
And do good.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
It hurts us at the end.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Of the day, I don't know what really was the
point of the zoom call. Like to his point, what
can you really do about it right now?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, I think the one thing you can do about
it is you could collectively talk to all running backs
and you'd have to draw a line in the sand
and say we're gonna strike. Like even guys who are
under contract Nick Chubb or Derrick Henry or whoever else
you want to throw into the conversation, Christian Kaffrey, They're
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gonna collectively say we are trying to as a position group.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Not just the stars, all of them, we're gonna strike.
And there's a risk.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
To that, right because as we know, there's a bunch
of running backs who play in the USFL, the XFL,
the CFL. There's people in the street who probably feel
like they could still play. I mean, they would literally
be jumping in to fill that void. So that's the
tough part is it's a position that it's gotten. It's
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gotten tough to be able to sign those big deals,
and it's tough not to acknowledge what Nick Chubb just
mentioned that as soon as they have a ton of success.
You know, with that comes, you know, a depreciating asset.
You don't look at a wide receiver that way, or
a quarterback or a left tackle or anyone else. You know,
justin Jefferson or excuse me, Tyreek Hill is the one
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that said he's gonna catch the two thousand yards. You
know what, you're not gonna save the following year always
run down and it's not what you say. But with
running backs, there's a lot of validity to what he said.
You know, theirs success, especially in college, you would hear
guys who are like you know that they they come
out of college like, well, there are a three year starter,
super successful.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know how much tread do they have left on
the tire.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That's how you hear people talk about running backs to
the college level, and so that's why you know, a
lot of schools Where's Georgia is probably most most famously,
has had kind of a running back by committee, and
it's protected a lot of those guys to be more
valued when when they get drafted or when they get
to the NFL because they haven't had to have the
bullk to the carries. So outside of a strike, which
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would really hammer home the point and en force maybe
the NFL to come back to them and say, okay,
let's try to iron out some protections and some things.
You know, maybe we've got a player performance pool that's
traditionally gone to players who don't have big contracts that
have high production. So like, maybe more of that those
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funds get devoted to running backs. It might be unfair
to other position groups, but you know, that was something
that got implemented in the twenty eleven CVA and it's
stuck around since and it's been a way of rewarding
performance for guys who you know, maybe aren't necessarily contracted
and getting.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Paid that much.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
So there's there's there's ideas, but you know, ultimately Nick
Chubb said it, there's really nothing they could do there.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
They're handcuffed.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's a byproduct of the economics of the NFL, and
I don't think it's changing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
When your point about there's players on the outside, you know, USFL, XFL, CFL,
et cetera, et cetera. There's guys that are on the
outside that are looking for a chance, and I know
that they want to if let's say they strike and
they said, let's all get together. Let's do this for
our position group. Let's do this for you know, our
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our brothers that are in the running back room across
the league, and let's do this for all future runs.
If I'm one of these guys on the outside, I look,
I appreciate it. I know that there's a fraternity. I
get all that. But if I'm looking for an opportunity
and I've got a family, that's my priority. It's not
the running back position. And so if I get a
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chance to you know, make pennies or the league minimum
or one or two million dollars a year, I'll gladly
take it if it means taking care of my family.
And I just find it hard to believe that you're
going to find enough guys that are going to say, hey,
we're all in to really enact any sort of change.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
It's always been the issue with players striking in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
The NFL owners know it.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
They've always banked on the fact that there'd be someone
to replace that void immediately. And also to your point,
they know from that standpoint that you know, most players,
especially in NFL standards, you know, if it's a three
year average career span, most of the guys are you know,
trying it to cash in for however much for that
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short window of time, and they leverage that and they
use that against a lot of athletes, like you can
find cheaper labor, and there's not going to be that
big of a difference. I mean, think about this. For example,
you know you average over four yards per attempt. You know,
that's about where where every team wants you to be.
And so let's say, as you know, one of the stars,
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you're at four point eight, four point nine yards per
attempt and they bring someone else into averages four point
two who might be saving them a lot of money.
You know, over a period of a season that that
four point two, you know, it adds up. It's not
gonna be quite as much, but it doesn't seem like
it's that big of a difference.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
But the cost savings are monumental.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Like you're talking about you know, paying a guy maybe
league minimum at seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars versus
pana guy ten point one million, which is a big difference.
So that's how they look at it, and they're like, yeah,
we can get by as long as we've got you know,
the quarterback, the wide receiver, the left tackle, you know,
the cornerback, and the edge rusher. As long as you
got are those guys paid, that's all really matters, and
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we'll build our roster around that.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
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But apparently things are getting a little bit feisty for
one team that's considered a legitimate contender this season in
the NFL. We'll tell you who that is next.
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New York Jets are off and running. Training camp is underway.
They're getting ready for this big Hall of Fame game.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Before we get into this, I did have a chance
to watch var on social media posts. I feel bad.
It's a stressful situation.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Of being when you're delayed and you're stuck and there's
like no way of getting home, and you've got a
family and all that.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So I'm hoping.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I'm hoping someone at Delta was able to eventually help
them out.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
They're actually one of the better airlines too with this
sort of thing, so it's a bit surprising that it's
bad as the work.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
But I always appreciate when someone puts an airline on
full blast, it completely exposes issues they've got within their customer.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Service, and then and then make sure to point out
that they are a public figure who could put them
on blast.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Oh yeah, but that's kind of the that's the leverage
you have, right, you know, you're not handcuffed, we're not
like the running backs like you actually have the ability
to put them on blasts and let people know, Hey,
don't fly Delta because if this happens.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
To you, you're gonna be a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Wouldn't it be great if we found out that LeVar
just had one too many LeVar islands and he was
actually flying Ununited and had it wrong the whole time.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
The airline that would that would be come back to
find out, Oh, he was actually an American. It wasn't It
wasn't Delta the entire time. Yeah, so he's a chance
of that. Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's just because when he said, like Delta, I've never
had a bad experience on Delta.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, Delta's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Like I've had a bad experience on every other airline,
and I've flown a fraction of the time that that
you guys have, but I've never really had an issue
with Delta. That always seems like the go to, Like, yeah,
an airline.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
It's typically United American.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Those are two that most people that I know at
least have complained about I mean, United member, if you can,
you want them to drag you off the plane and
kind of beat you while they're doing it, and then
you can sue them for a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
That was essentially what happened like two three years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Right, Lee, United was your airline right that let you
sleep with rats?
Speaker 6 (16:22):
Unfortunately? Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
It was? Yeah? Okay, yeah, now Lee, is that true?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Wasn't some guy like drug off a plane and they
used able to sue United for millions of dollars?
Speaker 6 (16:31):
That I believe that happened as well.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
But yeah, I am, along with thousands of others, was
delayed for multiple days in New York City and I
ended up having to sleep outside of Grand Central Station
before taking a train to a whole nother state two states.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Away to get out of get out of the East Coast.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
So you literally did sleep with.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Rats, yeah, amongst other things.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Well, we won't get into all that, But Lee, have
you ever been kicked off a plane before for being
too intoxicated?
Speaker 6 (16:59):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You mentioned Lee's just sitting next to We were talking
about it. Lee was just sitting next to some homeless guy.
He's got like a you know, like a tree bark
that he's gnawing on just to try and get some
sort of calorie intaken. He's got like a sewer sewer
rat at the end of a of a of a
pool QUI found in a dumpster over a fire, just
trying to get some protein because he's like locked out
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of the airport.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
What kind of stuff goes on late at night at
a outside of Grand Central Station.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
Yeah, there was one guy who was, uh, just passed
out the whole time, and then one woman who just
kept on getting up.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
And down, like for three hours.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
She would take a lap up and down the block,
come right back, sit right back down next to me.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
I have no idea what she was doing.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
That's called withdrawals, Yes, literally.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
And at no point you thought like, oh, maybe I
shouldn't sit next to this woman.
Speaker 6 (17:49):
What could I do? She left and came back towards me.
I mean I would I kind of got up and
would walk away, and she.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, when when she got up to walk away, I
would have moved.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
I mean, that's surprisingly not a lot of benches outside
of Grand Central Station.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
And I think I figured out why.
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So apparently things are a little feisty for the New
York Jets at training camp. They've got hard knocks, which
is set to debut, you know, coming up at some
(19:10):
when is the debut of Hard Knocks? Is it this week?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Well, whatever it is, isn't this week, I.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Would assume because the Hall of Fame games coming up
August third, Hall of Fame games coming up.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
And I'm in is Shark week right now? Shark Week
started off last week.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
It is Shark Week right now.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Oh yeah, it's back.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
I'm seeing Tuesday, August eighth.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, so it's going to be after the Hall of
Fame game. Well it's unfortunate, all right. So the point is,
the cameras are rolling and apparently we had multiple fights
in practice. I mean, guys are throwing down, they are
heated up, they are fired up for the season, and
they're Head coach Robert Sala spoke about the fisticuffs at
practice for the New York Jets.
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Guys, it's training camp. These guys are fighting for their lives,
fighting for their livelihood, right They're trying to get on
teams or trying to compete their tail off to get
into a starting lineup, to earn a spot on the roster,
to earn a roll, and so fights are gonna happen,
and and it's like you know. I tell them when
you're when you're fighting with your family, you got to rule.
You got to rule as a family. I tell my
seven kids, keep it below the neck, above the waist,
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you know, So the skirmishes are gonna happen. Don't throw
a punch, you're gonna get into your shoving match. Get on,
move on, get over with it. We got a lot
of stuff to do, but they're gonna happen. And pretend
like they're not gonna happen. You're you're just fooling yourself.
But that's a that's a product of people competing their
tails off, trying to earn something more than it is.
Just uncontrolled anger.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I tell my kids, blow the neck above the wat.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Liver body shots.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, you're right to the solar buses, seven kids, and
they're just lethal to the box.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You love how he dropped that subtly, like, yeah, I
told my seven kids, seven kids. Man, okay, good guy
stays busy, one.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Runs his steps before games, just try to get away.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
So that's a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Anyway, I'm questioning how legit the fights are this early
in camp, Like typically you get fights once you get
through the first week or two because guys get tired of,
you know, hitting each other.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
They get tired of going up against each other.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Uh, there's there's natural fatigue, crankiness set in any way,
they're sore that they know.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's a little easier for.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Guys to get upset by something, so this early in
camp to have one, you kind of feel like it
might be more.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
For the cameras.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They're like hard knocks, you know, I mean, I I
realized it could also just be early in camp you
get a couple of young guys who don't, you know,
know how to go a certain speed.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Like there's different speeds if it's.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
A walkthrough, if it's a whatever kind of period you're
going you're going in. And sometimes young guys who are
trying to make a statement, are trying to make the roster.
They don't know how to handle themselves versus a veteran,
and they'll they'll tick off a veteran by doing something
that the veteran's like no, no, no, no, that's not
how this works. Young bowl like you you got to
go at a certain speed in this drill. This isn't
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game speed yet, but we're eventually getting there. And sometimes
you'll get some guys that tick off other players. I'll
never forget von Miller. Von Miller when he got in
as a rookie, it didn't matter what it was. It
didn't matter if it was a walkthrough, didn't matter if
it was like.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
You know, helmet and jerseys.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
He went full speed every single time, and it made
so many of the offensive linemen and Denver mad. It
would like start fights, like I mean literally, and that
was just he had one speed. He was going full,
full go every single time, and it literally made guys mad.
And I remember sitting there kind of watching it, thinking, well,
(22:54):
I mean, he's a special player. You know, he does
this for a reason, and he's not going to adapt
to them. He's gonna make them adapt it him.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah. I just I don't know that even if there's fights,
then are you gonna watch Hard Knocks? Be honest, do
you think you watch it?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
I might watch some pieces of it.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
I've just I've kind of grown out of I have
two Yeah, I just wanted to watch it as much.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I just I think there's so much coverage of the
NFL and we've seen like so many versions of Hard Knocks,
and I'm just kind of okay, I mean even if
there are some brawls like it just feels like it's
it's a water down product. I would say this though.
Aaron Rodgers was on local radio in New York and
he was talking about just sort of his plan and
(23:38):
you know, talking to you know, Rothenberg and Dpa Trow
in New York and just telling him just kind of
you know, whether or not he's going to be their
long term or what his timeline is as a Jets quarterback.
Take a listen and tell me what you think of this.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Jets gave up a lot for me, so, you know,
to just play one year I think would be a disservice. Now,
if that one year turns out to be a magical year,
who knows. But it's more than that. It's how my
body feels.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Don't you think Rogers probably has also more a realistic
expectation of this, because people are already talking Super Bowl
with the Jets, and Rogers is probably thinking, let's slow
down a little bit here, all right. The AFC is
a pretty daunting task. Our division's pretty tough, and that's
not including Kansas City, Cincinnati and some of the other
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teams that are in the conference. I'd like to have
at least more than one bite at the apple before
we start talking about all right, one and done, because
you got a Super Bowl. I think he's probably got
a little bit more of a realistic approach than a
lot of people covering the Jets or Jets fans have
right now.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Yeah, I think there's the team's success and what they're
able to do this season.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Then the biggest thing that.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
He pointed out, and I think how he's always operated,
is he wants to reevaluate outter the season and see
how he feels both physically mentally like he's he's different
in that sense, and so he's going to go through
his process of evaluating what he feels like he wants
to try to accomplish. But I think you heard the
initial part and it is It's interesting if you go
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back and think about how when he went into the
meditation hut, he was about ready to retire, at least
that was maybe his intention, and then when he got
out of it, hearing about the Packers trying to trade
him behind his back, and whatever communication dinner did not happen,
or efforts to make communication dinnernet did not happen with FaceTime,
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it led to a trade, and it led to him
signing with a team that you know, he now feels
like maybe he can.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Make a run with the next few years.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
And it's the first time he's been away from the
Green Bay Packers, that organization, and it's a very different situation.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He's in the number one media market. He's with a.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Franchise that's clamoring for success, versus one that you know,
he was replacing a Hall of famer, and that hall
of famer and that team had won Super Bowls. I mean,
the Jets, it's been so long, there's probably a generation
that wasn't around, wasn't alive for it, and really hasn't had,
you know.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Seen them have much success.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
So there is like this rejuvenation of a fan base
that's so excited for him to be there that it's
it's got to feel good.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
You know. I'm not saying.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
The Packers took him for granted, at least not the
fan base, but but maybe you had the front office
to some degree did and maybe there are some fans
who took him for granted to want to move on.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
But this is this is that opportunity for him.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
To prove otherwise, And I think it was a pretty
heavy cost, you know, for him to go there.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
So I'm sure he wants to give it more than
just a year.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Like if he's going to take on this daunting task,
and you touched on like the AFC is so much
more competitive, there's a lot more parody. They didn't make
a super Bowl back when he was in an NFC
that was much easier to navigate through, right.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
With home field multiple times.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And now you've got to deal with the AFC and
all these quarterbacks and just a much tougher division, let
alone conference. So I think he understands that it's a
daunting task and probably has more of an idea in
his head. But I think he also feels, you know,
rejuvenated with the opportunity to play on a roster that's
ready to win right now everywhere around that quarterback position,
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despite how tough it's gonna be to navigate and let's
maybe see what happens over the next you know, two
three years.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
What would you say is a proper expectation for the
Jets and Aaron Rodgers in this time there? Okay, Well, to.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
Me, that's a playoff team last year with better quarterback play,
which was was was their achilles heel, and it was
why I was never a believer in the team last year,
because as good as the roster has been built, it
was the one spot they just couldn't admit that they
had missed on and and and that's fine, and now
they haven't they addressed it and then they'll have him
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moving forward, which to me makes them a playoff team.
I'm not sure what they win to the division, but
I think it's it's safe to say that's that's what
they will be next year.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
And that's what because I think if if they were
to get to a playoffs or get to the playoffs
and say they get to the division round, or say
they get to an AFC championship, I still feel like
there's going to be some people that go, yeah, but
for all that and for Aaron Rodgers kind of disappointing,
and I totally disagree. I think people's expectations for them
is so far gone that they forget the fact that
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the Jets have finished last in that division six of
the last seven years. They've been awful for like a
half century, like they've been awful, and the idea that
you're gonna add Rogers and your expectation is super Bowl
or bust, and I think there's a lot of that
out there. I just don't buy into it. If they
make the playoffs and they win a playoff game, I
would say that's a successful first year for Aaron Rodgers.
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And at the end of the two years they make
a couple of playoff appearances but never get to a
super Bowl. I'm not gonna call the thing a failure.
They gave it a shot. It's a tough conference, and
they were a better football team with him than they
were without him.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
They have the longest playoffs are out to.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
The Yeah, I think so twelve years, Yes, something like that. Yeah,
I mean been a while.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And that's that's what I'm saying, Like people have to
kind of tend to realize like where they have been
and what they've gone through, and that this would be
a huge, you know, moment for them just to be
able to get into the playoffs. You win a game, too,
I icing on the cake. You keep building from there.
And it's still a really young roster. You know, a
lot of these guys don't know necessarily how to win yet,
and hopefully Aaron Rodgers will be able to show them
that I think the other thing that, you know, Rogers
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is gonna have a great opportunity to do and I'm
not saying he didn't in Green Bay, but it's a
small market, you know, arguably green Bay's, you know, the smallest.
I think you could probably you could make that case.
He's now in the number one media market, Like I
think there's going to be so many marketing opportunities. He's
had the national stuff, like we've all seen the State
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farm commercials, but you probably have a lot more of
like the easier local New York you know, marketing deals
and opportunities that he didn't necessarily have as much in
Green Bay. And that's also like money that's coming from
the outside that maybe wasn't there before that he could
tap into it. And he's made a ton of money.
I know he's not I don't want to say is
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not motivated by money. I think that's a portion of it.
But I also think there's even just greater opportunity there
for him. So why wouldn't you try to maximize that
instead of just doing a one year you know, let's
see what happens and being there for two or three
years and seeing where you're capable of building two in.
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Speaker 1 (32:05):
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Speaker 7 (32:10):
Good morning, everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning Brady, guys.
In case you missed this, quite a debut for Lionel Messi. Hey, Brady,
quite a debut for Lionel Messi on Friday.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
We had talked about it a lot. His debut for
Inter Miami.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
He didn't start the game, but he did enter the
game in the fifty fourth minute and eventually scored the
game winning goal on a free kick in the ninety
fourth minute to lead to a two point victory in
front of a sold out crowd, which included Lebron James,
Kin Kardashian, Serena Williams.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Nice. Yeah, so he played half the game.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yep, flop, stop, don't do this, don't do.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
This, and then it took extra time on a free
kick for him to make an impact. He's already been
a bust. This has already been an awful move by
Inter Miami slash Florida Fort Lauderdale. Terrible move, already not
paying off. Didoul get back his game check? Is what
he should do.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
I can see why people really get after you on
social media. It's one hundred percent warranted.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
What's the problem, Like you'll retweet some.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Of the things that people say either from your fake
accounts that you make right, but it's completely warranted. Like
people should say the mean and hateful things they do
to you.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
He played half the game. I'm not paying them all
that money still.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Getting into shape.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
I mean I was gonna say the exact opposite, like,
if there was ever a moment where it could have
been more perfect, it was that moment, Like it was
first off.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Though the local reaction was crazy.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
The crazier thing was I wasn't even in South Florida
when all this occurred, and I was in an airport
and people were talking about it there like did you
see Messi?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Did you seem did you see the goal?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
Like it was a perfect shot for the perfect moment
in his debut to win it. And a team in
Inner Miami who's really struggled scoring goals this year anyway,
and now has I guess hope, and now has all
this buzz about him.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I think it's gonna be real.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
When they talked about the valuation of the team, it
was like half of half a billion dollars, and now
with Messi, they're they're upwards of over a billion dollar
franchise with him there.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
I mean, the jerseys are pretty sweet. I will say
that if you're a fan of Pink, and there's a
lot of Barbie blowhards out there that are fans of pink.
Those jerseys are pretty.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Sweet, at least one of those Barbie blow hards.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, what you saw Barbie this week?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
I did see Barbie and I did wear a pink shirt.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah you really, man, he's just shaking his head. Guards
just shaking his head pink.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Suret.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
I do have a picture that is part of my
rotation I wear pretty often, and I rocked.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
It to the Barbie.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
How was How was Barbie?
Speaker 7 (34:48):
It was excellent? It was It was a very good movie.
Applause to everyone involved.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yes, that's awesome, man.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I just there's that's that artful side of you, you know,
love he loves this. Someone told me the opening scene is, uh,
it's it's rather uh well, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Disturbing was how it was told to me.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
So yeah, it was there all I think I know
what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, that it has gotten
some people outraged. Yeah yeah, I mean Lee, you're the
critic outraged by the opening scene or now? No, okay, okay,
sober at the opening scene?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Ly?
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Yeah, I was sober for Barbie, okay, through some through
some back afterwards.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Oppenheimer, Barbie, which one do you prefer?
Speaker 7 (35:37):
I you know what I've been saying to people, I
would actually recommend Barbie this weekend just because it's it's
it's phenomenal. If you go out to the cinemas this
week you saw everybody walking around in pink. It was
quite an experience, Oppenheimer, you could see at any point,
So I'd see Barbie on opening weekend.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Welcome to California, Brady.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Did you see the map of like who's been seeing
it and who hasn't?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Let me guess? La and Dublin, Ohio a leading of
the leading places to see Barbie?
Speaker 6 (36:08):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, okay, probably not. What else we got?
Speaker 6 (36:11):
Well, in case you missed it.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
On Sunday, Michael Jordan's thirteen year run as owner of
the Charlotte Hornets has come to an end, almost to
a unanimous vote in the sale got approved for three
billion dollars except for one vote against.
Speaker 6 (36:23):
Can you guess who that might have been? The sale
of the Hornets?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Dolan?
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That is correct, James Dolan vote against?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Good brahm, Wow, what was it? What's his problem? Why
doesn't he want to what didn't he want him to sell?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (36:41):
No, no comments.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
He probably just doesn't want Michael Jordan ever profit off
anything right, how much is he going to make from that?
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Didn't he initially buy them for a few hundred million?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, I think something like that, Eddie. Do you have
any intel on James Dolan.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Yeah, one of the new owners was a part of
that Game Stop thing and Dolan lost a boatload of
money in.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
That, and so he voted against them. Oh okay, oh gotcha. Yeah,
so he had a vested interest there. Maybe I'll write
a song about it, JD. In the Straight Shot, they'll
have a song about, you know, Michael Jordan and him
getting screwed over with GameStop. Maybe that'll come out.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
Yeah, maybe a party will be part of it.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah, you know, wear pink and go to the concerts
at front row.
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