July 26, 2023 • 39 mins
Ron Rivera is fired up about the new regime in Washington DC. Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB, Albert Breer weighs in on the new deals for Barkley, Herbert and more. Plus, Midweek Awards on “The Good, The Bad& The Ugly.”
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I'm not sure if you guys heard the news, but
Dan Snyder is out in DC. He's no longer the
owner of the Washington Commandos Josh Harris.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Cough at.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
He's out, and so he's out, and there's potential for
a name change coming up at some point. That's a possibility.
They've discussed that, thank god, because the name is terrible,
and so hopefully they'll come up with something better than Commanders.
And so we've got all that fun stuff happenings.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I think it's more so, just from what I've read
and what I've heard, I think it's more so total
total severing of anything remnants of the former owner us.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean, even if it's even if it was an
amazing name. I think they want to do away with
anything that honors or even is a reminder of this
era in time.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
What would you guys want the name to be if
they could change the name.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm not a part of you guys, I don't. You know,
I don't know, but I don't those people you know
don't I don't know, man, I've been listen. I just
met there. There was a representative. I'll leave it nameless
and remain nameless. But he flew out here, yeah, to
(03:14):
come meet with me and speak with me on Monday.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And what's his Twitter account.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Name?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Just what's his Twitter account?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I got you Washington Commandos at Washington Commandos. But yeah,
you know, we had a great conversation and well his
name came up. It was it was not Jay Wright,
but but they just were talking about how there was
like literally like ninety percent of every person that has
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worked here during the era and regime of the Snyder
they've been removed and it's like little Danny, every every
little Danny would with a with a big old fat
scrooge McDuck money vaute now. But yeah, that's that's it's
(04:11):
it's a change coming. There's a lot of mixed feelings on,
you know, the reality versus the perception of the ownership change.
But I mean, I'm optimistic about it. I'm definitely optimistic
about what this new ownership group will do because I
just think that ultimately what it was going to come
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down to is just being a person to to the
people that work at your organization. Like it just comes
down to being someone who helps the company finds solutions
and you know, makes it so that the working environment
is an environment that you want to be in and
that you want to you want to thrive in, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And that's Do you think Dan Snyder keeps cash his
yacht or do you think it's I wouldn't it? Well,
I don't know. I mean, you know, you don't want
something bad to happen next thing, you know, you lose
all that cash.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, but you're talking about he's not a gigantic yacht.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, Well listen, I don't live the yacht life.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
His biggest issue is gonna be misplacing all the cash.
It's not gonna be like credit.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Listens. As somebody who was once part owner of a
pontoon boat, I can tell you things canna get dicey
out there in the.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Season a cute What type of what type.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Of interest do you accumulate from that type of money
in the bank, Like, I mean, let's just say he
put one billion and in one place to just collect
you know, interest, What would that be?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's in the millions, isn't it? Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean I'll put it this way.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Let's see, one month T bill I'm seeing right now
pays five point four percent. So do the math on that, Like,
he could really make five point four percent on his
money for having it tied up. However much how many
of those billions he wants tied up? So yes, that
would that would equate to millions in interest just from
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a thirty day T bill.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And all he had to do was be a scumbag
for twenty three years.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Yeah, all he had to do was rank at the
top of our list for the worst owner in professional sports.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah. See, I mean, you know, people can celebrate his
departure all they want, but six point oh five billion,
although he did get popped that fifty million, you.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Know for I thought he also paid out like twenty
seven million in legal fees or.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, well, possible it was.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It was like everyone kind of came after him once
things ended, they started, they started, you know, kind of
nickel and diming him for a lot of what was
going on.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
What was the total the six point oh.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Five billion, Yeah, six point oh five and he.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Obviously didn't get all of that. There were some other.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Sixty million and fifty right, sixty million in fines to
the league.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
But I'm saying he probably he was the majority owner.
There was minority owners.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
He was no, no, he bought him out. He was
like the only owner at the end. I'm pretty certain
he was the only one. Yeah, because they were they
were plotting against him. They were, well, they wanted him out.
They didn't want out, they wanted him they were they
were trying to be the new ownership group, you know,
and and oh my god, they were trying to get
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him ousted, and he kicked them out.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Let's just so he sold for six billion. Let's assume
assume Uncle Sam takes half. Okay, so he's got three
billion after is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Uncle Sam is on the come up man.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Yeah, Well that treasury notes gonna pay ou about one
hundred and sixty million after thirty days.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, why did they call it Uncle Sam?
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I never had an uncle named Sam, although we do
have a Sam with us.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
We do have an Iowa with Sam.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Hey Lee, do you have an uncle Sam?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Uncle Bob? Everybody has an uncle Bob.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I do have a granddad. I have a granddad Bob.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I actually am an Uncle Sam. Now, guys, I have
a niece, So.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm Uncle Sam. Nice having Uncle Sam out there.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Crazy Uncle Sam.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Now, I got you top pat and some some white
curly hair. Yeah, I'm not sure that's all set up
and ready to go for rolling? Uncle Sam. Now, would
you guys like to hear Ron Rivera the brand new
head coach or the new head coach of the or
the head coach of the new Washington Commanders. I should say,
(08:47):
new ownership, a whole new look. This team is ready
to rock. And the Commando's head coach spoke about how
excited he is about the new change atop the Washington
football team.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Him, I think it's pretty exciting. I really do. You
can already feel the impact. A lot of it has
to do with just really the reaction from the fan
base more so than anything else. I think our guys
have have also felt it. They felt it again because
of the reaction to fan base. Well, it's really kind
of neat and if you look outside you see the
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setup for camp, and the guys really you know, they're
getting into this and so it's it's kind of unique feeling.
It's it's it's exciting. I mean, I'm fired up about
the opportunity as we go forward.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Wouldn't you be fired up to if it meant you
were going to probably get another year based on the
change with ownership?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Well, what made you guys think he wasn't going to
get another year?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well, I mean I didn't think that he wasn't going
to get another year.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I think this is a I think this is
a very critical year for him.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This year. I don't like the most critical now.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think if they if they're you know, if they
go one in sixteen, I could see them making a change.
But if mediocre again.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Oh that's it. Yeah, the four thirteen, he's.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Say safe, that's that's the that's the line in this
animal to drive four wins.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
In fact, I think I think that they would love
nothing more than to have a clean slate all all
the way across.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, I'm telling you right now, if when they win
their fourth game, we're having a celebration on this show
for Ron Rivera being given another year with the.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
He was going to get another year. He was going
to get another year.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Was he.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Here's to your point this season? This season?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, But to your point, I feel like a lot
of times when there's a change of ownership and it's
not even like they would be saying that, you know,
Ron Rivera is not a good coach, they just want
to clean slate.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
They just want to have their guy.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
They want to go.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Through the process of hiring a guy that they hired
they feel comfortable with, sees things the same thing, they are,
the same way they do and moving forward. It happens
all the time, like you'll you'll see companies bring it,
you know, get bought out, they bring in new management,
and they hire new people and you're like, all right,
I guess I'm out just because I don't fall within
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you know, whatever previous history these owners have.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Even if you're a great employee.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right right, Yeah, even if you're a good there are
some good employees that are now not working at Washington
Commander Park whatever it's called.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
They're not there anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
If we look that up, well, what is the new
park there for the command that it's called.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think it's Little Danny's Den. Jeez, the most positive.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It is most positive.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, I'm almost positive. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean we don't have to wait on an.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I wasn't waiting. I was just letting, letting Jonas go,
like you know.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He thought he thought he had more than that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
He on one line. He's on a tangent right now,
Little Danny's.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Den like this I I have I have looked into
this stuff. I've researched this. They call me show prep
Jesus for a reason. I've researched all this. I've looked
into it, and it's Little Danny's Den. And I happen
to know that it's located just outside RFK Stadium.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, that name will change if that were the case
that I'm certain that that would be one of the
first things that's already changed. If they're not going to
go in and hang out in Little Danny's Den, like
it's just not you know, not what's going to be.
But I'll go back to the original point, which is
with with the coach and his scenario, he's going to
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have this season to have success.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But again I.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Would be curious, even if he has a by all
all things, given a successful season, do they still stick
with them? I think that's the bigger question, Like outside
of him doing something phenomenal like winning the NFC and
going to you know, the NFC Championship or going to
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the Super Bowl, outside of something like ridiculous like that,
do they move on from them? That's the question I'm
asking right now, because again, you do want that clean slate.
You want to have, you know, people that are from
from your choosing that are running running the team and
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doing the things with the team. Now, I will say,
as it applies to a head coach or the president
of the organization, like I would assume that they're going
to keep Jason right and and the reason why is
because they were looking at the fact that Jason Wright
was cleaning that house up all along, regardless of him
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being hired by the former regime.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
The job that he's.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Been doing has actually been you know, praised and lotted
by the people that are there.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So I would say that he stands a strong.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Chance of of continuing forward in his position. You know,
at the organization. But I wouldn't say anyone from the
former guard would would be safe. That would include the
team president, that would include the head coach. It would
just I would assume it would include everyone, you know,
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even players.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They're gonna so they're gonna start one and three, So
the first four weeks of the season, they'll be one
and three, and so there would be a lot of skepticism,
but they're going to be relieved that Dan Snyder's out.
They open up with a bye week against the Cardinals,
and then they're at Denver, which early on in the season.
Everybody knows the stats at Denver, mile High, et cetera,
et cetera. In week two, and then they've got Buffalo
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and Philadelphia. So you're gonna be one and three to
start the season and you've got no longer Danny Snyder
to blame for it.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Can we get a Jonas Knox guarantee on that be? Yeah,
you could go ahead and get a Jonas Knox guarantee
on air.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Right the Washington Commandos formally run by Little Danny Dan
Snyder still waiting confirmation as to whether or not it's
called Little Danny's den Right outside RFK Stadium. We'll start
off this season one in three. They'll beat the Arizona
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Cardinals in Week one because the Arizona Cardinals are a
diaper fire, and then they're going to lose at Denver,
and then they're going to lose to the Bills, and
then they're going to lose at the Eagles. And that's
the way that's going to go the first four weeks
of the season for the Washington Commandos.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Hey leak, we f eight that we keep that for
the future. Fate that please.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Fate that lee faded ye, thank you, by the way.
If you doubt, by the way, by Tiger, and if
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his training camp tour. By the way, do you think
anybody goes to every single training camp? Is that even
possible for somebody to get to every single training camp?
Or they just go to like a select few and skip,
like you know, maybe Jacksonville or some other teams that
you don't know, now, why.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Skip in Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Like you would probably skip the Cardinals this year, wouldn't you.
They're just gonna be awful, Like what's to watch?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Hopefully we can ask Albert which once he's skipping you
would ask him, why.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Albert are you with us here? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Well, I mean it wouldn't be an Albert Breer appearance
if there wasn't technical issues.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is that.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I mere?
Speaker 9 (17:31):
No, I'm sorry. I was in an elevator at my hotel,
so I apologize.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh the worries.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yeah, and just you know, like I mean, I had
someone I've had tone issues, as you guys know, in
suburban Boston. I'm now in like the rural Missouri, so
this could be a little touch and go here.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Okay, okay, so you're but I but I figured getting
back in my hotel rooms in Port because maybe they're
I'd have like it would at least be stable. Yeah.
Stable's good. H Now what is the We know obviously
justin Herbert got his deal done and we felt like
there was going to be either him and or Joe
Burrow were getting something done this offseason before the season started.
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So now, what does the timeline look like for a
deal for Joe Burrow now that they at least have
something to look at or a comp for the latest
contract for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
In the league.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Well, I mean I think there are two things here. Like, first,
you know, I did a time on day time time
between today and the start of the season, and if
you look at the history of it really could hurt steal.
It's sort of an outlier. And I think the Eagles
were what he did or we're smart to do it
when they did at the beginning of the off season
because they didn't like let the Herbert deal get in
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front of them, They didn't let the Borough deal get
in front of them, they didn't let Bluhmar deal get
in front of them. They did theirs first, so you know,
they wouldn't have to be paying off of somebody else's deal.
But that's really an outlier. You know, generally, if you
look at it, the guys who get the quarterbacks to
get deals done after the third year, it happens to
the summer. It was Kylo was that way, Josh Allen
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was that way, Mahomes is that way, Deshaun Watson was
that way, and so you know, I think this sort
of Burrow and and and Herbert had similar timelines, you know,
and that like both of the discussions towards the deal
really got going in earnest after the draft of the
House of the deal to be done by week one.
(19:22):
The second part of it is. Yeah, you know, I
do think that it gives the Bengals and Burrow a
fallback if they want to do a more traditional deal
where they can just say, okay, like we're going to
take the Justin Herbert deal and move it a tech
and be done with it, like they could do that.
I think the other thing that's on the table here
and has been on the table here is being a
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little bit more creative and not maybe doing the exact
same thing that Mahomes did, but doing something that's going
to help keep the team intact. Because I do think,
you know, I and I can tell you, like you know,
Joe has you know, I kind of had that sentiment
towards this negotiation that that Mahomes head towards his and
Kansas City that he wants to keep the group together
(20:04):
and doesn't mean he's going to take like any sort
of huge hometown discount, but there's something he can do
logistically with his contract. Who's going to help the Bengals
plan forward and help them keep t Higgins, and help
them keep Jamar Chase, and help them keep Logan Wilson.
Because obviously there's a lot of big deals coming down
the Pike here over the next couple of years, because
they've drafted really well, and these guys are coming off
their rookie deals, and I think he's going to try
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to do it, you know. So I think the question
now becomes, you do something traditional where you just go
if you're thirty fifty four to fifty five, whatever the
number is, you know that version of the Justin Herbert deal,
which you know Justin Herbert deal is sort of off
off the jail and hurt steel. Or do you do
something that's a little bit more creative and a little
bit more complicated that would allow for the team to
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plan forward with more certainty.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Albert, did you ever find yourself looking at the construct
of some of these contracts and just go who cares?
Because at that point in the contract they're already going
to restructure it, Like it always kind of I guess
it never surprises me when sometimes these deals get done
and you're like, well, it doesn't really matter because four
(21:11):
years into this deal, there's.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Going to restructure anyway, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I think that that's the thing is, like you you
really want to look at like the you know, how
fast the money's getting to the player, right, like to me,
like that's such a huge key, and so you know,
like justin Herbert has one hundred million dollars in his
first year, you know, and like so you know, like
traditionally haven't you know, had huge full guarantee numbers. But
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like the structure of the deal tells you he's getting
his money, you know what I mean. Like, so you know,
and I think you're right to look at it that way, Brady,
because you know, like a lot of times it's it's
like every time it's a guy plays on the way
that everybody expects him to play, well, then you know,
the last year or two of the deal is going
to be irrelevant because they're going to just they're just
(21:58):
going to extend him then. And yeah, I mean, like
the other part of it is the cap implications, of course,
which I think is what you're referencing, which is where
you know, teams are just kind of constantly kicking the
can down the road and kicking the can down the road.
I think the difference now is that the numbers have
gotten so big that like you look at the Eagles
right like and you look at what they're going to
(22:18):
have in the back end of that contract, and the
cap numbers are really manageable on hurts the next few years,
but there are just some massive, massive cap debt payments
that will come four or five years down the line. Now,
like you maybe you do a new deal with him then,
and I mean, but that money has to be accounted
for somewhere. So like to me, like, that's what's fascinating is,
(22:41):
you know a lot of teams and the chiefs have
done this too, and converting a lot of the base
salaries and the signing bonuses with my home, you have
these numbers that are just accumulating and accumulating and they
don't go away. You're eventually going to have to deal
with it. And if a guy plays, you know, ten
or fifteen years in the league, does that mean that
at some point everybody's going to have to go through
(23:02):
a reset year where you just eat it, you know,
like kind of like what the Rams are doing this
year with a lot of their cap debts. So you know,
I know it's a little in the weeds, but if
you do look like the fine print of these contracts,
I think you do see how some of that debts,
you know, going to be accumulating over the next few years,
and it's just going to be interesting to see how
those teams eventually reckoned that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Abe.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Let's let's go from the mansions and the neighborhood to
the projects in the hood. Do you have any insight
on on Saquon's deal and how that that took place?
I mean, you know, eleven million is one million above
the salary cap. I think it was it was out
(23:44):
there that he wanted fifteen million, which was one million
shy of what McCaffrey is getting, but one million more
than what he was offered by the team. He ends
up at eleven million for this season. Do you have
any insight on how all this played out? I mean,
what was it all about to end up at eleven
(24:05):
million coming into camp and during this season?
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Well, I think it was an effort to the Giants
to do something in good faith and say to him, like,
look like we want to take you know, and we
want to and we respect what you've done, and like
both do this outside the box to make sure that
you can at least go into camp with a clear
mind and have a great year. And I think that's
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really the crux of it. Leavar I, if there's anything
more to it. It's it's an olive branch, you know,
And I think, like the good thing about it, it
does help Sakuan, you know, at least managing his head
the reality of the situation, which is he can't walk
away from that ten point one dollars, you know, and
so if you give him a chance to make it eleven,
maybe he can feel a little bit better about it.
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But you know, the reality is, like, you know, at
that position, there's no guarantee that he's going to have
any sort of market next year. You get hurt and
like now all of a sudden, all that money you
turned down is gone, you know. I mean, I'd even argue,
based on where the running back market is, like getting
tagged again wouldn't be a bad result for him. You know,
if he gets twelve million dollars in his seventh year
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in the pros that that position with the incentives on
top of it, like a year from now, that's not
a terrible result. There are very few running backs who
get that kind of money that deep into their career.
So like, I just think, like a huge part of
it is there's a real world, like real life like
aspect to all of this. This whole argument we've been
(25:35):
having over the last year, which is, there's an individual
player here who's coming closer and closer to the end
of his earning power, and once that goes away, none
of these people who are kind of none of these
people who are you know, making this argument about running
backs are going to be there to cut that check
for him. You know, like it's just going to be him.
And so you know, I wouldn't. I don't blame him
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at all for taking the money that taking every time
that he came now, and you know, I think it's
I think it was risky for him to turn down
and offer from the giants. You know, if I was
in one of these situations, I advise any of these
running backs, but you know, push and prod and pull
and protest and do everything that you can while you're
in the negotiation, but then at the deadline, like to
take the money because there's no guarantee that money is
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going to be there a year from now.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Albert Breer, Senior NFI reporter at the m MQB, joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on Twitter
at Albert Breer. So, Albert, you're on your training camp
tour the Lions are opening up the season on Thursday,
and I had to kick off the year. There's been
a lot of talk about the hype train. Dan Campbell's
spoken about it. What was your impression of visiting the
Detroit Lions this week?
Speaker 9 (26:42):
You know, I understand to down with him and UH
and Brad Holmes and Jared Goff and you know, I
asked them what the difference was in the way the
program is running now and the way everything feels versus
where it was and then got there a couple of
years ago and had a really interesting answer, which was
(27:02):
everything is efficient now and like I mean, Dan said,
like he's like, I don't remember too many instances in practice.
The last three days we had to run a play twice.
You know, you're not repeating stuff, and it's just there's
I guess, a professionalism and in a way that this
is being run. And then you know, Golf said like
it's become more of a player run team, like they're
(27:24):
enforcing it now like everything they've tried to build.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And so.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
You know, I think the place is in a really
good spot. You know, they're they're very strong along the
lines of scrimmage, which you know, to me, you know,
if you're if you're good in those areas, you're going
to be in every game. You know, I think Jared's
a very good quarterback, maybe not a very good quarterback,
And you know, I think if you look like where
they're going to be the middle season, when they get
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James and Williams back and Tamaris Gibbs his feet underneath them,
and then you look at like what they've added to
the secondary where they're very flexible back, there should be
a really good team. You know. Now we've all in
this spot before, where a team that gets hot at
the end of the year previous and and we're you know,
creating a super Bowl contender and they fall flat in
the face. I'm not saying it's as possible that happens,
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but you know, the feeling around that team is in
a really, really good place right now, and it feels,
like I said, like a like a group that's all
moving in one direction.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Albert, I want to ask you, well, let me first off,
I ask this any gambling conversation issues visiting with the
Detroit Lions, but I have a fall up to this question.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Sure, yeah, so you know I have talked to people
there about it and I think the big thing for
them is, you know what it is for everybody, which
is like trying to be really clear with the players
about about the rules and trying to be very judicious about,
you know, telling the players like, you know, if you
(28:52):
do this, like like the excuse that these other guys
are using isn't going to work anymore, you know. And
I think if you listen to the guys now, I
think there are two separate categories here, and we've talked
about this over the last couple of months. Like the
first category is like the one where NFL players are
gambling on NFL games, which is like you're just a
(29:12):
dumb ass. If you get that, you sort of deserve
what you get, you know what I mean, Like like
it's obvious why the NFL can't allow that. I think
the one where there's a little bit more gray area
was over the like placing a bet on your phone
at the team facility, Like you're not supposed to gamble
at work. But how clear was the NFL about that?
You know, that's the real quest. And I think that
(29:33):
that's like the complaint you've gotten for most of the
players is like, well, the NFL wasn't clear that I couldn't,
you know, pull my phone out and pull up the
DraftKings app and place a bet in the parking lot
of the facility. And that's how some of these guys
are getting busted. So I know the lines you know
in every team, but the line's clearly are a team
that you're trying to be very, very very straightforward about
(29:53):
the rules of the players.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
The last thing I really want to ask is which
training camps do you hate to go to?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Yeah, well, I mean the one I'm in tonight, right
the one I'm not right now, Like I I like
visiting the Chiefs for obvious reasons. But uh, Saint Joseph,
Missouri is a very interesting place, I'll put it that way.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Oh yeah, a training camp there, Albert.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Oh you were okay, see I wasn't sure if you
were when you were with the team. It is. I
went to the finest dining establishment in town last night,
the Texas Roadhouse. Yeah, so yeah, it's a it's a
very very interesting place. Like I uh, I uh like
(30:37):
I when I walked in the hotel last night, I
mean it smelled like how do I describe this? Like? Uh,
like the like the like the apartment from Half Baked
right like smelled like that, and there was a birthday
party happening. I mean, that's the sort of place you're in,
albert I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Looking at the Texas Roadhouse right now some pictures. Is
there still a jukebox right when you walk in the
front door. I mean it looks like a fire established box.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
I so.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
I actually when I was in college, we used to
go there because you know, you broke college kid and
everything else. I hadn't been in like twenty years. I like,
I gotta say it wasn't bad, like it really, I
mean the stake, but I ordered a steak just to see,
you know, curious. It was like twenty two bucks or
something like that.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Wasn't that.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
It wasn't terrible. It's definitely edible.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
My last question, I know, we're up against you.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
When you were up here, you hit up like.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
No, so we I think we actually did go to
Texas Roadhouse one night.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And how about this.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
The Arizona Cardinals came into town to practice against us
before we played in one of the preseason games. Larry
Fitzgerald had like catered it the entire meal for the
Cardinals he brought in some barbecued catering for it. That
that was the kind of guy he was. And I
think they even shared a little bit with us, but
we were mostly kind of in the dining hall there
(31:54):
on campus, which it used to be what Southwest Missouri
State and now I believe it's I think.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
They've dropped the directional portions of it, if I'm not.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Mistaken, right or something like that.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
By the way, the Cardinals had the by far the
most underrated campsite before they moved back to Phoenix, which
was Flagstaff, Arizona. Everybody, Oh yeah, Flagstaff, Arizona. I mean
their practice field was legitimately on the side of a mountain.
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
All I was going to ask about Washington, but I
know we're up against it, so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, we're up against the break, so we'll do it
another time. We'll do it another time.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's plenty to.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Talk about, yea.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Yeah, I'm trying to get the public what they want.
They want to break down the Saint Joe, Missouri, Texas roadhouse,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, and the juke box.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, hey, where the beers Cold Albert Like, that's
the most important thing.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Oh yeah, were they were the hot you know because sometimes.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Like here's a fun fact, I tried to order in IPA.
It's the first place I've been to in probably a decade.
No IPAs.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh that's all.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
I respect that.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Sorry, Brady, Brady's a big IPA guys.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Sorry about I'm not I actually hate ips A.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Shame. That's a shame. Albert, We appreciate it, have fun,
happy travels, and we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
All right, lead to lap who's got what this week? Well,
as we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good, and LeVar, you have the pleasure of giving
us the good this week.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, all right, I'll say the good.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I mean I had a few different things, but I
think the good coming out of today's show. Coming in
at today's show is Herbert's contract extension being a nice
extension and also Saquon getting getting a deal done where
he's back in camp and we get to see him play.
So as a Penn State are super good to be
(36:19):
able to see Saquon in camp and getting prepared for
the season.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's my good.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
All right, all right, fellows, Well you can't have good
without the bad, and you can't spell Brady without bad.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Brady.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
What was bad?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Wow, Actually, yes, that's true. Thanks, Lee, really appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
I would say the bad was my most recent experience
going through TSA. I've got TSA pre check and as
I was going through the line, there was a group
of workers for American Airlines that you know, they kind
of cut in front.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Of you, which is fine. I had no issue with
that whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
The problem is the last worker he walked through the
metal detector, buzzer goes off, comes back, walks back through again,
buzzer goes off, comes back, walks back through a third time,
and finally the buzzer goes off and the tsagent just
goes just go ahead. But it had a different sound
this time. It was a sound for a random check.
(37:21):
And so I'm standing there, I'm like, hold on a second,
Like now that gets thrown to me because they don't
do random checks on the employees of the airline. And
since he went back and forth three times instead of
it counting and hitting like someone behind me in the
security line, it now falls to me.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
So I get to go in through like the x
ray machine. I going through the x ray machine.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
And it happens to come up where you know it,
something pops off in the groin area.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
So there and another guy and he said, sir, we're
gonna have to patch you down.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
And I looked at the I looked at the photo.
I go, well, how's this gonna work? And he goes, well,
we can go somewhere in private.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
I go, let me try taking my belt off and
I'll go back in. And the only older woman goes, oh, baby,
that ain't gonna help.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
So I.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Come back out, same thing, same issue, and she's like, oh, honey,
be proud of what you got, be proud of what
you I patch you down if I could, sweetheart.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
But I we go.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
We go into private and it wasn't as bad as
I'd anticipated, but I'm like, all because of the American
Airlines employee I'm now sitting there like by and they're
trying to decide like how they're gonna pat me down,
where they're gonna pat me down.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I've got this older woman cat calling.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Me, hey Lee, who's got the but Jonas?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
What was ugly?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Well that performance from Rady LeVar so touch.
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I'm not sure if you guys heard the news, but
Dan Snyder is out in DC. He's no longer the
owner of the Washington Commandos Josh Harris.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Cough at.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
He's out, and so he's out, and there's potential for
a name change coming up at some point. That's a possibility.
They've discussed that, thank god, because the name is terrible,
and so hopefully they'll come up with something better than Commanders.
And so we've got all that fun stuff happenings.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I think it's more so, just from what I've read
and what I've heard, I think it's more so total
total severing of anything remnants of the former owner us.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean, even if it's even if it was an
amazing name. I think they want to do away with
anything that honors or even is a reminder of this
era in time.
Speaker 6 (02:49):
What would you guys want the name to be if
they could change the name.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'm not a part of you guys, I don't. You know,
I don't know, but I don't those people you know
don't I don't know, man, I've been listen. I just
met there. There was a representative. I'll leave it nameless
and remain nameless. But he flew out here, yeah, to
(03:14):
come meet with me and speak with me on Monday.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
And what's his Twitter account.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Name?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Just what's his Twitter account?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, I got you Washington Commandos at Washington Commandos. But yeah,
you know, we had a great conversation and well his
name came up. It was it was not Jay Wright,
but but they just were talking about how there was
like literally like ninety percent of every person that has
(03:48):
worked here during the era and regime of the Snyder
they've been removed and it's like little Danny, every every
little Danny would with a with a big old fat
scrooge McDuck money vaute now. But yeah, that's that's it's
(04:11):
it's a change coming. There's a lot of mixed feelings on,
you know, the reality versus the perception of the ownership change.
But I mean, I'm optimistic about it. I'm definitely optimistic
about what this new ownership group will do because I
just think that ultimately what it was going to come
(04:35):
down to is just being a person to to the
people that work at your organization. Like it just comes
down to being someone who helps the company finds solutions
and you know, makes it so that the working environment
is an environment that you want to be in and
that you want to you want to thrive in, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And that's Do you think Dan Snyder keeps cash his
yacht or do you think it's I wouldn't it? Well,
I don't know. I mean, you know, you don't want
something bad to happen next thing, you know, you lose
all that cash.
Speaker 6 (05:07):
Yeah, but you're talking about he's not a gigantic yacht.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Okay, Well listen, I don't live the yacht life.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
His biggest issue is gonna be misplacing all the cash.
It's not gonna be like credit.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Listens. As somebody who was once part owner of a
pontoon boat, I can tell you things canna get dicey
out there in the.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Season a cute What type of what type.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Of interest do you accumulate from that type of money
in the bank, Like, I mean, let's just say he
put one billion and in one place to just collect
you know, interest, What would that be?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
That's in the millions, isn't it? Oh?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah, I mean I'll put it this way.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Let's see, one month T bill I'm seeing right now
pays five point four percent. So do the math on that, Like,
he could really make five point four percent on his
money for having it tied up. However much how many
of those billions he wants tied up? So yes, that
would that would equate to millions in interest just from
(06:11):
a thirty day T bill.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
And all he had to do was be a scumbag
for twenty three years.
Speaker 6 (06:18):
Yeah, all he had to do was rank at the
top of our list for the worst owner in professional sports.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Yeah. See, I mean, you know, people can celebrate his
departure all they want, but six point oh five billion,
although he did get popped that fifty million, you.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Know for I thought he also paid out like twenty
seven million in legal fees or.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, well, possible it was.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
It was like everyone kind of came after him once
things ended, they started, they started, you know, kind of
nickel and diming him for a lot of what was
going on.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
What was the total the six point oh.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Five billion, Yeah, six point oh five and he.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Obviously didn't get all of that. There were some other.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Sixty million and fifty right, sixty million in fines to
the league.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
But I'm saying he probably he was the majority owner.
There was minority owners.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
He was no, no, he bought him out. He was
like the only owner at the end. I'm pretty certain
he was the only one. Yeah, because they were they
were plotting against him. They were, well, they wanted him out.
They didn't want out, they wanted him they were they
were trying to be the new ownership group, you know,
and and oh my god, they were trying to get
(07:29):
him ousted, and he kicked them out.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Let's just so he sold for six billion. Let's assume
assume Uncle Sam takes half. Okay, so he's got three
billion after is that right?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Uncle Sam is on the come up man.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
Yeah, Well that treasury notes gonna pay ou about one
hundred and sixty million after thirty days.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, why did they call it Uncle Sam?
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I never had an uncle named Sam, although we do
have a Sam with us.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
We do have an Iowa with Sam.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Hey Lee, do you have an uncle Sam?
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Uncle Bob? Everybody has an uncle Bob.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
I do have a granddad. I have a granddad Bob.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
I actually am an Uncle Sam. Now, guys, I have
a niece, So.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I'm Uncle Sam. Nice having Uncle Sam out there.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Crazy Uncle Sam.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Now, I got you top pat and some some white
curly hair. Yeah, I'm not sure that's all set up
and ready to go for rolling? Uncle Sam. Now, would
you guys like to hear Ron Rivera the brand new
head coach or the new head coach of the or
the head coach of the new Washington Commanders. I should say,
(08:47):
new ownership, a whole new look. This team is ready
to rock. And the Commando's head coach spoke about how
excited he is about the new change atop the Washington
football team.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
Him, I think it's pretty exciting. I really do. You
can already feel the impact. A lot of it has
to do with just really the reaction from the fan
base more so than anything else. I think our guys
have have also felt it. They felt it again because
of the reaction to fan base. Well, it's really kind
of neat and if you look outside you see the
(09:21):
setup for camp, and the guys really you know, they're
getting into this and so it's it's kind of unique feeling.
It's it's it's exciting. I mean, I'm fired up about
the opportunity as we go forward.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Wouldn't you be fired up to if it meant you
were going to probably get another year based on the
change with ownership?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Well, what made you guys think he wasn't going to
get another year?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Well, I mean I didn't think that he wasn't going
to get another year.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, I think this is a I think this is
a very critical year for him.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
This year. I don't like the most critical now.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
I think if they if they're you know, if they
go one in sixteen, I could see them making a change.
But if mediocre again.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Oh that's it. Yeah, the four thirteen, he's.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Say safe, that's that's the that's the line in this
animal to drive four wins.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
In fact, I think I think that they would love
nothing more than to have a clean slate all all
the way across.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, I'm telling you right now, if when they win
their fourth game, we're having a celebration on this show
for Ron Rivera being given another year with the.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
He was going to get another year. He was going
to get another year.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Was he.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Here's to your point this season? This season?
Speaker 6 (10:36):
Yeah, But to your point, I feel like a lot
of times when there's a change of ownership and it's
not even like they would be saying that, you know,
Ron Rivera is not a good coach, they just want
to clean slate.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
They just want to have their guy.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
They want to go.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Through the process of hiring a guy that they hired
they feel comfortable with, sees things the same thing, they are,
the same way they do and moving forward. It happens
all the time, like you'll you'll see companies bring it,
you know, get bought out, they bring in new management,
and they hire new people and you're like, all right,
I guess I'm out just because I don't fall within
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you know, whatever previous history these owners have.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Even if you're a great employee.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Right right, Yeah, even if you're a good there are
some good employees that are now not working at Washington
Commander Park whatever it's called.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
They're not there anymore.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
If we look that up, well, what is the new
park there for the command that it's called.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I think it's Little Danny's Den. Jeez, the most positive.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
It is most positive.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Yeah, I'm almost positive. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I mean we don't have to wait on an.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I wasn't waiting. I was just letting, letting Jonas go,
like you know.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
He thought he thought he had more than that.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
He on one line. He's on a tangent right now,
Little Danny's.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Den like this I I have I have looked into
this stuff. I've researched this. They call me show prep
Jesus for a reason. I've researched all this. I've looked
into it, and it's Little Danny's Den. And I happen
to know that it's located just outside RFK Stadium.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Well, that name will change if that were the case
that I'm certain that that would be one of the
first things that's already changed. If they're not going to
go in and hang out in Little Danny's Den, like
it's just not you know, not what's going to be.
But I'll go back to the original point, which is
with with the coach and his scenario, he's going to
(12:36):
have this season to have success.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But again I.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Would be curious, even if he has a by all
all things, given a successful season, do they still stick
with them? I think that's the bigger question, Like outside
of him doing something phenomenal like winning the NFC and
going to you know, the NFC Championship or going to
(13:03):
the Super Bowl, outside of something like ridiculous like that,
do they move on from them? That's the question I'm
asking right now, because again, you do want that clean slate.
You want to have, you know, people that are from
from your choosing that are running running the team and
(13:24):
doing the things with the team. Now, I will say,
as it applies to a head coach or the president
of the organization, like I would assume that they're going
to keep Jason right and and the reason why is
because they were looking at the fact that Jason Wright
was cleaning that house up all along, regardless of him
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being hired by the former regime.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
The job that he's.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Been doing has actually been you know, praised and lotted
by the people that are there.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
So I would say that he stands a strong.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Chance of of continuing forward in his position. You know,
at the organization. But I wouldn't say anyone from the
former guard would would be safe. That would include the
team president, that would include the head coach. It would
just I would assume it would include everyone, you know,
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even players.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
They're gonna so they're gonna start one and three, So
the first four weeks of the season, they'll be one
and three, and so there would be a lot of skepticism,
but they're going to be relieved that Dan Snyder's out.
They open up with a bye week against the Cardinals,
and then they're at Denver, which early on in the season.
Everybody knows the stats at Denver, mile High, et cetera,
et cetera. In week two, and then they've got Buffalo
(14:42):
and Philadelphia. So you're gonna be one and three to
start the season and you've got no longer Danny Snyder
to blame for it.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Can we get a Jonas Knox guarantee on that be? Yeah,
you could go ahead and get a Jonas Knox guarantee
on air.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Right the Washington Commandos formally run by Little Danny Dan
Snyder still waiting confirmation as to whether or not it's
called Little Danny's den Right outside RFK Stadium. We'll start
off this season one in three. They'll beat the Arizona
(15:17):
Cardinals in Week one because the Arizona Cardinals are a
diaper fire, and then they're going to lose at Denver,
and then they're going to lose to the Bills, and
then they're going to lose at the Eagles. And that's
the way that's going to go the first four weeks
of the season for the Washington Commandos.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Hey leak, we f eight that we keep that for
the future. Fate that please.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Fate that lee faded ye, thank you, by the way.
If you doubt, by the way, by Tiger, and if
you don't f eight, f you. That's our philosophy here
on this show. We keep everything. It is Two Pros
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his training camp tour. By the way, do you think
anybody goes to every single training camp? Is that even
possible for somebody to get to every single training camp?
Or they just go to like a select few and skip,
like you know, maybe Jacksonville or some other teams that
you don't know, now, why.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Skip in Jacksonville?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Like you would probably skip the Cardinals this year, wouldn't you.
They're just gonna be awful, Like what's to watch?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Hopefully we can ask Albert which once he's skipping you
would ask him, why.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Albert are you with us here? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
Well, I mean it wouldn't be an Albert Breer appearance
if there wasn't technical issues.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Is that.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I mere?
Speaker 9 (17:31):
No, I'm sorry. I was in an elevator at my hotel,
so I apologize.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh the worries.
Speaker 9 (17:36):
Yeah, and just you know, like I mean, I had
someone I've had tone issues, as you guys know, in
suburban Boston. I'm now in like the rural Missouri, so
this could be a little touch and go here.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Okay, okay, so you're but I but I figured getting
back in my hotel rooms in Port because maybe they're
I'd have like it would at least be stable. Yeah.
Stable's good. H Now what is the We know obviously
justin Herbert got his deal done and we felt like
there was going to be either him and or Joe
Burrow were getting something done this offseason before the season started.
(18:10):
So now, what does the timeline look like for a
deal for Joe Burrow now that they at least have
something to look at or a comp for the latest
contract for a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
In the league.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Well, I mean I think there are two things here. Like, first,
you know, I did a time on day time time
between today and the start of the season, and if
you look at the history of it really could hurt steal.
It's sort of an outlier. And I think the Eagles
were what he did or we're smart to do it
when they did at the beginning of the off season
because they didn't like let the Herbert deal get in
(18:41):
front of them, They didn't let the Borough deal get
in front of them, they didn't let Bluhmar deal get
in front of them. They did theirs first, so you know,
they wouldn't have to be paying off of somebody else's deal.
But that's really an outlier. You know, generally, if you
look at it, the guys who get the quarterbacks to
get deals done after the third year, it happens to
the summer. It was Kylo was that way, Josh Allen
(19:02):
was that way, Mahomes is that way, Deshaun Watson was
that way, and so you know, I think this sort
of Burrow and and and Herbert had similar timelines, you know,
and that like both of the discussions towards the deal
really got going in earnest after the draft of the
House of the deal to be done by week one.
(19:22):
The second part of it is. Yeah, you know, I
do think that it gives the Bengals and Burrow a
fallback if they want to do a more traditional deal
where they can just say, okay, like we're going to
take the Justin Herbert deal and move it a tech
and be done with it, like they could do that.
I think the other thing that's on the table here
and has been on the table here is being a
(19:42):
little bit more creative and not maybe doing the exact
same thing that Mahomes did, but doing something that's going
to help keep the team intact. Because I do think,
you know, I and I can tell you, like you know,
Joe has you know, I kind of had that sentiment
towards this negotiation that that Mahomes head towards his and
Kansas City that he wants to keep the group together
(20:04):
and doesn't mean he's going to take like any sort
of huge hometown discount, but there's something he can do
logistically with his contract. Who's going to help the Bengals
plan forward and help them keep t Higgins, and help
them keep Jamar Chase, and help them keep Logan Wilson.
Because obviously there's a lot of big deals coming down
the Pike here over the next couple of years, because
they've drafted really well, and these guys are coming off
their rookie deals, and I think he's going to try
(20:26):
to do it, you know. So I think the question
now becomes, you do something traditional where you just go
if you're thirty fifty four to fifty five, whatever the
number is, you know that version of the Justin Herbert deal,
which you know Justin Herbert deal is sort of off
off the jail and hurt steel. Or do you do
something that's a little bit more creative and a little
bit more complicated that would allow for the team to
(20:48):
plan forward with more certainty.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Albert, did you ever find yourself looking at the construct
of some of these contracts and just go who cares?
Because at that point in the contract they're already going
to restructure it, Like it always kind of I guess
it never surprises me when sometimes these deals get done
and you're like, well, it doesn't really matter because four
(21:11):
years into this deal, there's.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Going to restructure anyway, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
I think that that's the thing is, like you you
really want to look at like the you know, how
fast the money's getting to the player, right, like to me,
like that's such a huge key, and so you know,
like justin Herbert has one hundred million dollars in his
first year, you know, and like so you know, like
traditionally haven't you know, had huge full guarantee numbers. But
(21:37):
like the structure of the deal tells you he's getting
his money, you know what I mean. Like, so you know,
and I think you're right to look at it that way, Brady,
because you know, like a lot of times it's it's
like every time it's a guy plays on the way
that everybody expects him to play, well, then you know,
the last year or two of the deal is going
to be irrelevant because they're going to just they're just
(21:58):
going to extend him then. And yeah, I mean, like
the other part of it is the cap implications, of course,
which I think is what you're referencing, which is where
you know, teams are just kind of constantly kicking the
can down the road and kicking the can down the road.
I think the difference now is that the numbers have
gotten so big that like you look at the Eagles
right like and you look at what they're going to
(22:18):
have in the back end of that contract, and the
cap numbers are really manageable on hurts the next few years,
but there are just some massive, massive cap debt payments
that will come four or five years down the line. Now,
like you maybe you do a new deal with him then,
and I mean, but that money has to be accounted
for somewhere. So like to me, like, that's what's fascinating is,
(22:41):
you know a lot of teams and the chiefs have
done this too, and converting a lot of the base
salaries and the signing bonuses with my home, you have
these numbers that are just accumulating and accumulating and they
don't go away. You're eventually going to have to deal
with it. And if a guy plays, you know, ten
or fifteen years in the league, does that mean that
at some point everybody's going to have to go through
(23:02):
a reset year where you just eat it, you know,
like kind of like what the Rams are doing this
year with a lot of their cap debts. So you know,
I know it's a little in the weeds, but if
you do look like the fine print of these contracts,
I think you do see how some of that debts,
you know, going to be accumulating over the next few years,
and it's just going to be interesting to see how
those teams eventually reckoned that.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Abe.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Let's let's go from the mansions and the neighborhood to
the projects in the hood. Do you have any insight
on on Saquon's deal and how that that took place?
I mean, you know, eleven million is one million above
the salary cap. I think it was it was out
(23:44):
there that he wanted fifteen million, which was one million
shy of what McCaffrey is getting, but one million more
than what he was offered by the team. He ends
up at eleven million for this season. Do you have
any insight on how all this played out? I mean,
what was it all about to end up at eleven
(24:05):
million coming into camp and during this season?
Speaker 9 (24:08):
Well, I think it was an effort to the Giants
to do something in good faith and say to him, like,
look like we want to take you know, and we
want to and we respect what you've done, and like
both do this outside the box to make sure that
you can at least go into camp with a clear
mind and have a great year. And I think that's
(24:30):
really the crux of it. Leavar I, if there's anything
more to it. It's it's an olive branch, you know,
And I think, like the good thing about it, it
does help Sakuan, you know, at least managing his head
the reality of the situation, which is he can't walk
away from that ten point one dollars, you know, and
so if you give him a chance to make it eleven,
maybe he can feel a little bit better about it.
(24:51):
But you know, the reality is, like, you know, at
that position, there's no guarantee that he's going to have
any sort of market next year. You get hurt and
like now all of a sudden, all that money you
turned down is gone, you know. I mean, I'd even argue,
based on where the running back market is, like getting
tagged again wouldn't be a bad result for him. You know,
if he gets twelve million dollars in his seventh year
(25:15):
in the pros that that position with the incentives on
top of it, like a year from now, that's not
a terrible result. There are very few running backs who
get that kind of money that deep into their career.
So like, I just think, like a huge part of
it is there's a real world, like real life like
aspect to all of this. This whole argument we've been
(25:35):
having over the last year, which is, there's an individual
player here who's coming closer and closer to the end
of his earning power, and once that goes away, none
of these people who are kind of none of these
people who are you know, making this argument about running
backs are going to be there to cut that check
for him. You know, like it's just going to be him.
And so you know, I wouldn't. I don't blame him
(25:57):
at all for taking the money that taking every time
that he came now, and you know, I think it's
I think it was risky for him to turn down
and offer from the giants. You know, if I was
in one of these situations, I advise any of these
running backs, but you know, push and prod and pull
and protest and do everything that you can while you're
in the negotiation, but then at the deadline, like to
take the money because there's no guarantee that money is
(26:19):
going to be there a year from now.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Albert Breer, Senior NFI reporter at the m MQB, joining
us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get him on Twitter
at Albert Breer. So, Albert, you're on your training camp
tour the Lions are opening up the season on Thursday,
and I had to kick off the year. There's been
a lot of talk about the hype train. Dan Campbell's
spoken about it. What was your impression of visiting the
Detroit Lions this week?
Speaker 9 (26:42):
You know, I understand to down with him and UH
and Brad Holmes and Jared Goff and you know, I
asked them what the difference was in the way the
program is running now and the way everything feels versus
where it was and then got there a couple of
years ago and had a really interesting answer, which was
(27:02):
everything is efficient now and like I mean, Dan said,
like he's like, I don't remember too many instances in practice.
The last three days we had to run a play twice.
You know, you're not repeating stuff, and it's just there's
I guess, a professionalism and in a way that this
is being run. And then you know, Golf said like
it's become more of a player run team, like they're
(27:24):
enforcing it now like everything they've tried to build.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And so.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
You know, I think the place is in a really
good spot. You know, they're they're very strong along the
lines of scrimmage, which you know, to me, you know,
if you're if you're good in those areas, you're going
to be in every game. You know, I think Jared's
a very good quarterback, maybe not a very good quarterback,
And you know, I think if you look like where
they're going to be the middle season, when they get
(27:48):
James and Williams back and Tamaris Gibbs his feet underneath them,
and then you look at like what they've added to
the secondary where they're very flexible back, there should be
a really good team. You know. Now we've all in
this spot before, where a team that gets hot at
the end of the year previous and and we're you know,
creating a super Bowl contender and they fall flat in
the face. I'm not saying it's as possible that happens,
(28:10):
but you know, the feeling around that team is in
a really, really good place right now, and it feels,
like I said, like a like a group that's all
moving in one direction.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Albert, I want to ask you, well, let me first off,
I ask this any gambling conversation issues visiting with the
Detroit Lions, but I have a fall up to this question.
Speaker 9 (28:32):
Sure, yeah, so you know I have talked to people
there about it and I think the big thing for
them is, you know what it is for everybody, which
is like trying to be really clear with the players
about about the rules and trying to be very judicious about,
you know, telling the players like, you know, if you
(28:52):
do this, like like the excuse that these other guys
are using isn't going to work anymore, you know. And
I think if you listen to the guys now, I
think there are two separate categories here, and we've talked
about this over the last couple of months. Like the
first category is like the one where NFL players are
gambling on NFL games, which is like you're just a
(29:12):
dumb ass. If you get that, you sort of deserve
what you get, you know what I mean, Like like
it's obvious why the NFL can't allow that. I think
the one where there's a little bit more gray area
was over the like placing a bet on your phone
at the team facility, Like you're not supposed to gamble
at work. But how clear was the NFL about that?
You know, that's the real quest. And I think that
(29:33):
that's like the complaint you've gotten for most of the
players is like, well, the NFL wasn't clear that I couldn't,
you know, pull my phone out and pull up the
DraftKings app and place a bet in the parking lot
of the facility. And that's how some of these guys
are getting busted. So I know the lines you know
in every team, but the line's clearly are a team
that you're trying to be very, very very straightforward about
(29:53):
the rules of the players.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
No doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
The last thing I really want to ask is which
training camps do you hate to go to?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Yeah, well, I mean the one I'm in tonight, right
the one I'm not right now, Like I I like
visiting the Chiefs for obvious reasons. But uh, Saint Joseph,
Missouri is a very interesting place, I'll put it that way.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Oh yeah, a training camp there, Albert.
Speaker 9 (30:17):
Oh you were okay, see I wasn't sure if you
were when you were with the team. It is. I
went to the finest dining establishment in town last night,
the Texas Roadhouse. Yeah, so yeah, it's a it's a
very very interesting place. Like I uh, I uh like
(30:37):
I when I walked in the hotel last night, I
mean it smelled like how do I describe this? Like? Uh,
like the like the like the apartment from Half Baked
right like smelled like that, and there was a birthday
party happening. I mean, that's the sort of place you're in,
albert I'm.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
Looking at the Texas Roadhouse right now some pictures. Is
there still a jukebox right when you walk in the
front door. I mean it looks like a fire established box.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
I so.
Speaker 9 (31:00):
I actually when I was in college, we used to
go there because you know, you broke college kid and
everything else. I hadn't been in like twenty years. I like,
I gotta say it wasn't bad, like it really, I
mean the stake, but I ordered a steak just to see,
you know, curious. It was like twenty two bucks or
something like that.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Wasn't that.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
It wasn't terrible. It's definitely edible.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
My last question, I know, we're up against you.
Speaker 9 (31:24):
When you were up here, you hit up like.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
No, so we I think we actually did go to
Texas Roadhouse one night.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
And how about this.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
The Arizona Cardinals came into town to practice against us
before we played in one of the preseason games. Larry
Fitzgerald had like catered it the entire meal for the
Cardinals he brought in some barbecued catering for it. That
that was the kind of guy he was. And I
think they even shared a little bit with us, but
we were mostly kind of in the dining hall there
(31:54):
on campus, which it used to be what Southwest Missouri
State and now I believe it's I think.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
They've dropped the directional portions of it, if I'm not.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
Mistaken, right or something like that.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:06):
By the way, the Cardinals had the by far the
most underrated campsite before they moved back to Phoenix, which
was Flagstaff, Arizona. Everybody, Oh yeah, Flagstaff, Arizona. I mean
their practice field was legitimately on the side of a mountain.
It was incredible.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
All I was going to ask about Washington, but I
know we're up against it, so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, we're up against the break, so we'll do it
another time. We'll do it another time.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
It's plenty to.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Talk about, yea.
Speaker 9 (32:37):
Yeah, I'm trying to get the public what they want.
They want to break down the Saint Joe, Missouri, Texas roadhouse,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, and the juke box.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I mean, hey, where the beers Cold Albert Like, that's
the most important thing.
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Oh yeah, were they were the hot you know because sometimes.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
Like here's a fun fact, I tried to order in IPA.
It's the first place I've been to in probably a decade.
No IPAs.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh that's all.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
I respect that.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Sorry, Brady, Brady's a big IPA guys.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Sorry about I'm not I actually hate ips A.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Shame. That's a shame. Albert, We appreciate it, have fun,
happy travels, and we'll do it again next week.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
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Speaker 4 (34:57):
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Speaker 11 (35:36):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and ugly.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
All right, lead to lap who's got what this week? Well,
as we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good, and LeVar, you have the pleasure of giving
us the good this week.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Yeah, all right, I'll say the good.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
I mean I had a few different things, but I
think the good coming out of today's show. Coming in
at today's show is Herbert's contract extension being a nice
extension and also Saquon getting getting a deal done where
he's back in camp and we get to see him play.
So as a Penn State are super good to be
(36:19):
able to see Saquon in camp and getting prepared for
the season.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
That's my good.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
All right, all right, fellows, Well you can't have good
without the bad, and you can't spell Brady without bad.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Brady.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
What was bad?
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Wow, Actually, yes, that's true. Thanks, Lee, really appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
I would say the bad was my most recent experience
going through TSA. I've got TSA pre check and as
I was going through the line, there was a group
of workers for American Airlines that you know, they kind
of cut in front.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
Of you, which is fine. I had no issue with
that whatsoever.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
The problem is the last worker he walked through the
metal detector, buzzer goes off, comes back, walks back through again,
buzzer goes off, comes back, walks back through a third time,
and finally the buzzer goes off and the tsagent just
goes just go ahead. But it had a different sound
this time. It was a sound for a random check.
(37:21):
And so I'm standing there, I'm like, hold on a second,
Like now that gets thrown to me because they don't
do random checks on the employees of the airline. And
since he went back and forth three times instead of
it counting and hitting like someone behind me in the
security line, it now falls to me.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
So I get to go in through like the x
ray machine. I going through the x ray machine.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
And it happens to come up where you know it,
something pops off in the groin area.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
So there and another guy and he said, sir, we're
gonna have to patch you down.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
And I looked at the I looked at the photo.
I go, well, how's this gonna work? And he goes, well,
we can go somewhere in private.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
I go, let me try taking my belt off and
I'll go back in. And the only older woman goes, oh, baby,
that ain't gonna help.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
So I.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
Come back out, same thing, same issue, and she's like, oh, honey,
be proud of what you got, be proud of what
you I patch you down if I could, sweetheart.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
But I we go.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
We go into private and it wasn't as bad as
I'd anticipated, but I'm like, all because of the American
Airlines employee I'm now sitting there like by and they're
trying to decide like how they're gonna pat me down,
where they're gonna pat me down.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
I've got this older woman cat calling.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
Me, hey Lee, who's got the but Jonas?
Speaker 3 (38:57):
What was ugly?
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Well that performance from Rady LeVar so touch.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
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