August 1, 2023 • 37 mins
Coaches take different approaches to fighting in training camp but how does LaVar feel about it? FSR MLB Insider, Jon Morosi joins the guys with all the news ahead of the trade deadline. Plus, the weekly edition of “Would You Rather…?”
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I don't know ways to handle the fighting at training camp.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Kevin Stefanski of the Browns, he made him run sprints.
There were multiple fights that broke out this past weekend.
They're in this remote it's what was the Greenbrier in
uh in, West Virginia. So apparently they get all hot
and bothered out there and guys are throwing down multiple times,
and Stefanski got frustrated by it and made him run
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sprints afterwards. I don't know why everybody's not as relaxed
as Deshaun Watson is. I don't get it, you know,
like take it easy, just take it easy, you know,
just you know, he seems loose, he sne yeah, just
really everything's fine. And then you got the Tennessee Titans,
who have a different strategy. According to the Tennessee and
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Mike Rabel, he described the scuffles at practice because they
had an issue with it over the past couple of days,
as dumb bleep that hurts the team, and he pledged
to discipline any player who decides they want to fight
by banishing them to a sand pit located in a
remote corner of the practice field to continue practicing.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you've got one strategy fight, go hang out in
the sandpit. Of all people, Mike Vrabel should know that.
I mean, he played for the Steelers. Come on, the
guys get a little chippy hair.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It's just uh, I mean, just feels like this is
part for the course when it comes to training camp
now it is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It is a bit early.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
The Jets had some issues that popped up at training
camp where they had guys throwing down, and there was
some some thought that maybe it was for the cameras,
that maybe guys were getting a little bit a little
bit pissy with each other because they wanted to show
something for hard knocks.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But it just, I mean, guys get a little lathered up.
They'd be ready. Guys be ready for training camp, and
sometimes that ready like kind of escalates into some some
chippy moments. He saw the one play WHOA what what?
What practice was that the linebacker slapped He slapped the
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lineman upside the head in the backfield, and then something happened.
There was an interception that was thrown, and then the
lineman chase the linebacker down and then they started started
kind of mixing it up. I forget what practice.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Travis Kelsey also got in a couple of different fights
with guys and vowed to be a better teammate afterwards.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean, is it about being a better teammate or
are you just like kind of just annoyed with each other.
I mean, you're just you're you're working, you're working to
get better. You're working, you're working to prepare for something,
something great, something extraordinary, and sometimes fighting and practice is
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a part of it. I tell people all the time,
People ask why why why do you fight? Like, what's
your reasoning for fighting? I said, It's very simple for me.
If I come out to practice and our level of
competition was flat and and it was low terms of
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energy in terms of just what our folks, he says,
I start a fight like I had start a fight,
because once you start a fight, it escalates the the
level of intensity. It takes you into a place where
the stakes have now been been you know, raised. And
it worked every time. It worked every time.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Like one of those guys in hockey they're down three
four goals and they're like, all right, somebody go start
a fight, and they just go out there and they
just throw I read there was a there was a
series Penguins Flyer series back in I want to say
two thousand and nine. I think it was two thousand
and nine, Yeah, and it was Maxim Talbot who went
out and fought some guy for I think it was
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uh Carcillo of the Flyers. I think it was Dan
Carcilo of the Flyers and the Penguins were losing. It
was a pivotal game in the series and Max Talbot
went out there and picked a fight with this guy,
got his ass. Whoop, knew he was going to get
his ass, and the Penguins ended up winning the game.
It completely changed the momentum of the game because he
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just decided, all right, somebody's got to do something and
just went out there and got roughed up, took one
for the.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Team got everybody rolled. Yeah, it was, and it was
they were on the road. So maybe there's something to that. No,
there's one hundred I'm being honest, there's one hundred percent
something to it. When you fight the other side and
the same side all rally like on the side that
like whoever got his ass whipped? Like they rallying, like
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you can't just whip our asses like that, like no way.
And then on the other side of it, like you
whipped his ass, like let's whip all their asses, like
let's let's handle let's handle this business, like let's handle
this little bit of business that we got going on here.
Everybody rallies, So why do coaches get so pissy about it?
They don't. They really don't. Oh so this is all
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they really don't. That's why I'm saying Mike Rabel, he
should be a same to himself, or even saying it
because he played during an era. They probably fight at
Ohio State. I know they fought in Pittsburgh. So it's
just that's a that's a part of now. Now things
have continued to get a little bit more laid back,
as you mentioned, Deshaun Watson. Things have got laid back,
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like real, real laid back where where maybe there's not
as much intensity towards you know, things like that. There
was a time where you could tackle and take guys
down to the ground. They don't they don't want you
tackling and taking guys down to the ground, like they
just want you to thud up. Rabel told a story.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think he was on Busting with the Boys with
Taylor Lawan and Will Compton and he was he was
telling a story how when Rodney Harrison first got to
New England that it was like Kevin Falk. I think
it might have been Kevin Falk was a running back
and there was some sort of a wheel route or
something like that, and they were in pads, but nobody
was really completely banging at that point. And I guess
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Rodney Harrison hit him pretty hard, cracked him really hard,
and somebody yelled at Rodney Harrison. They were like, you
can't do that. It was like some offensive lineman and
he said, shut up, I'll do what I want. And
then it was the offensive line coach, Dante Scarniki. I
believe it was said, you can't do that. We're not
doing that here, and Rodney Harrison looked at the offensive
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line coach like.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Shut up, old man, I'll whoop your ass too. And
he just got there.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And Rabel said he looked over at Ted Teddy Bruce
k and he was like, oh, we got one.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Like okay, I guess that's how it's gonna go. So yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
To hear rabl undefeated and to hear Rabels say, you
know you guys are gonna be a please he went
to meet room, was like, good job, guys, let's keep
that intensity up. What was the best fight you saw
or were a part of in training camp?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Uh? They had.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
The best one was and not Michael Westbrook beating up
a teammate.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That was the year before I got there. That was
the year before I got there. The best one was
when Jesse armstad and and Chad Morton were going at
it in practice like coverage wise, like we were in
like a Skelly period and something happened and Jay was
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like really kind of bothered by what Chad had did,
and next thing you know, they get tangled up the
very next play, and you know, I was like, oh
this is you know, anytime I got an opportunity to
start a fight, that's what I did so when when
they mixed it up, I ran up on them and
I just took I took Chad down. So then now
me and and Jesse Armstad are are basically like just
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dragging Chad Chad Morton on the ground. His little ass
is strong too, by the way it was, that's a
strong dude. So he he's holding his own but we
on we on top of him, giving him the business.
Then here come the offensive lineman from all the way
over somewhere else, and they come running over, and then
the rest of our linebackers came running over, and it
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was about it was probably about ended up being probably
about double digits worth for dudes that was slamming each
other and rolling around on the ground and the dust
was coming up and stuff like that. But that was
probably the best one because at that moment it was
like me and me and Jesse rushed him like, well,
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Jesse was tangled up with him. I actually rushed him,
and yeah, I mean, I don't know. I do know.
Coaches get uncomfortable. Coaches do get uncomfortable with fights and
practice because you never want somebody I remember I hit
somebody upside the head in college and I had like
this crazy ass contusion on my arm. Like I literally
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had to wear like a heart, like a heart like
pad over top of this contusion that I had. And
it was like Michigan week or something. I don't know,
but we were going and like one thing led to
another and it was Josh Mitchell. I'll never forget that
one either. Like I punched Josh upside the head. I
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punched Josh up side of it. My whole arm, the
inside of my forearm just started swelling and it wouldn't stop.
And it just kept going and it kept going, and
they kept going. They're like, I told you don't be fighting.
Who is that? Like Joe, you ain't even watching our
side of the ball. Get out of here. But he
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knew he saw, he saw everything.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
By the way, I tried to find proof because we
want to make sure that we're being one hundred percent
forthcoming and accurate on this program.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Accuracy is the number one you're looking Twitter, all right,
So I'm trying to find nobody worried about no Russell
Wilson and I'm plenty great.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now this is this is about that fight that you mentioned. Okay,
so this was in the Baltimore Sun. Now, I tried
to find the full article that I couldn't, but I
found the preview, and the preview says this. It's from
two thousand and three, and it says after loss Redskins
show fight in practice, and it just says running back
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Chad Morton and linebacker Jesse Armstead tangled twice. Linebacker LeVar
Arrington went after wide receiver Rod Gardner?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, and then is that what it says? And then
I couldn't find the rest of the article. So why
are you going after Remember that me and Rod, we're
boys to this day, I don't even remember that. Why
are you going after Rod Gardner hose? Like that? Say
that again, Rod Gardner hose? Like that? Why are you
going after Gardner hose? I got what you did because
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Rod had hose back then. So I thought that she
was talking about, why was I going after Rod Gardner's hose?
And that's why we fought? But and that could very
well have been what it was. I mean, two thousand
and one, two thousand, two thousand, that's safe Like two
thousand and three, First Party two that season two thousand
and three, I might have gone after some of his hosts.
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I'm just saying I mean that could have been why
we would locking it up. I mean I mean that
did I mean that those politics played out on the
field sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I mean yeah, But little Danny wouldn't run a place
like that, you know, little Dandy Snyder wouldn't run place
like that.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Come on, please, yeah, I tell you what you talk about.
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(14:31):
You see him on MLB Network JPM. We were just
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Speaker 5 (14:50):
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So I promise you that I am as I'm frequently
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be able to to sing along to kill the swift
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No one, okay, Jonathan Levart, no one today trust me
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no one can can expect me to sing swift with
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any with any degree of affluency there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So I want to.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Ask you, I just want to go back, because we're
obviously going to get to some of the names that
are going to potentially be on the move later on today.
Is the trade deadline is later on this evening. But
I want to go back. And there was all this
conversation about show Hao Tan and what's going to happen?
Is he going to be on the move? And it
appears that no, you know, the Angels are going to
sit tight. They've they've added pieces around him, and they're
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going to try and really go for it this year.
What was the reasoning behind that? From your understanding, did
they get any sort of an indication that he was
planning on being their long term or is this just
a let's go for it and we'll deal with this
after the year.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's the latter, I believe Jonas. I don't think there's
been any reassurance from show Ay's camp at all about
what lies beyond the end of this twenty twenty three
Major League season. I think a couple of things stood out.
Number one, the Angels realized that their only chance to
sign him is by making the playoffs and by proving
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to him that he can win in Anaheim. I think
that the Dodgers obviously are going to have a really
compelling case. The Dodgers. They'll be able to tell him
we've done nothing but win the last ten years. You
can stay in southern California and and play with Freddie
Freeman and Mookie Betts and Clayton Kershaw and make that
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point to him. But I so, I still think the
Dodgers have an excellent chance to sign him this offseason.
But this is not about that from the age of
perspective as much as it is they've got to do
the best they can to get the most out of
the time they've got with him, and and they've I
think done done a very good job with this deadline,
and that credit Berrymnazi, and I credit ownership and Artie
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Moreno for investing in the team. They just they had
an injury with Taylor Wood. They went out there and
got Randal Gritchick at CJ Cron. They've already added Lucas
Gelido and Ranaldo Lopez. They've done a really good job
of strengthening their chances, at least for the for the
wild Card. They won a big game in Atlanta last night,
So I admire that. I mean, at the end of
the day, they're often we talk at this time of
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year about managing your assets, and that's great, and that's
what gms are supposed to do. But let's not forget
what this is. This is still a show business asking
people to spend their hard and Marney to watch your
team play and stream or treat your team's games and
do all those things that you ask your fans to do.
And you've got the most marketable star in North American
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sports right now, Why why do you trade them? If
you still have a chance And they played well enough
this month of our and Jonas and they basically said
we can. We can still make them run of this thing.
And I credit the Angels for doing it. There there.
There are some fans that say, well, they should have
traded them when they had the chance. I'm not so sure.
I think that your fans want to see him play.
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You've got a chance to get sixty home runs. There's
a lot of value.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
There, JP. I'm glad you stayed at the whole fans
paying to see a product. I was with a buddy
of mine last week and he's a former pro player
and has coached, and we were talking and he was
just talking about the differences in how the league has
evolved from your perspective, what what are these gms and
what are these these organizations? What are they looking for
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or when trying to trade. I mean, obviously you can
never have enough pitchers on your staff. I get that,
But are you looking for guys that can get on base?
Are you looking for big hitters? Are you looking for defense? Like?
What is like the most important you know, part of
this trade deadline? And what these these organizations are looking
for Olivar.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's a great question. I think. One thing that I
know in talking to Scott Harris, who's the Tigers president
of baseball operations. He's just got the job last year.
His guiding principle since taking the job has been dominating
the strike zone. And that is in two ways. That is,
on the pitching side, you got to have guys that
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fill up the strike zone with quality stuff and can
grow repeatable strikes and know how to get major league
hitters out with quality stuff in the zone, because you
might be able to get an a ball guy to chase,
but you know, Mike Trout is not going to chase,
and Otani is not going to chase, So how do
you get them out in the zone. And on the
pitching side, On the hitting side, it's a matter of
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again not chasing. It's you look for the for the
exact hitting perspective on that, which is understanding how to
make good swing decisions, having a good swing that gets
your bat in in the hitting zone as long as possible.
Those are the things that you need. And and so
I think that the the overall idea for teams right
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now is to defind pitchers who fill up the zone
and hitters who understand how to dominate the zone. And
and that that to me is one of the really
interesting parts about how you evaluate a young player and
and how you see something at the minor league level.
And translated that even to the major league level. It
was interesting yesterday on the on our MLB Network broadcast,
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Tom Berducci made the point that teams now are in
terms of their ability to try to figure out if
their pictures are tipping pitches, that they even can use
AI to try to evaluate a pictures delivery and if
they're becoming too predictable. So I mean, we're like next
level on this analysis nowadays, stuff that I could even
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begin to understand. But I the one, the one trade
I'll mention really quickly. Last night, the Guardians trade the
pitcher Aaron Savali to Tampa, and some have criticized, well,
are they selling right now? They're still in a playoff
contending spot. But the guy they got back, Kyle Manzardo,
is is going to be their first basement of the future,
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including potentially as early as next year, and maybe he's
even ready right now. And so if you're if you're
making a trade like that, I pushed back on the
notion that that was a buy and sell trade, that
was a need for need trade, that was that was
what we call a good old fashioned baseball trade, where
I've got a surplus of this and I need that,
so let's do. Let's make this trade. And that's what
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I saw there from Cleveland and Tampa. And I hope
we see more trades like that today because they end
up being a lot of fun for baseball conversation.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
How about John Paul Rosi? You us here on Fox
Sports Radio. He is our MLB insider. You can also
see him on MLB Network at John Morosi on Twitter.
As we get you set for the trade deadline, how
bad are things going to get for either the Mets
or the Yankees or both over the next few hours here, Well.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Let's put it this way. Jason Smith hosts the Late
Night Show. He's probably still awake worried right now about
about the state of his Mets, Right, That's what I
would say about how Jason's feeling in all Mets fans.
I mean, let's just take this one sentence in isolation
and reflect on it for a second. They spent thirty
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six million dollars to make a future Hall of Fame
pitcher and Max Sure's or go away.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Think about that.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Wow, They spent thirty six million dollars at Ben Max
out the door, which is just it's rather staggering. Now
they got back a prospect, the younger brother of Ronald
Acuna Junior, Luisan Helocunya, which is also interesting. But so
the Mets. And here's where I'll credit them for this,
which might sound a little awkward, but I'll make the point.
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They went all in last offseason. They've been all in
ever since Steve Cohen took over, and this year was
a mistake. They made some mistakes this year. It takes
a lot of guts as an owner to say, you
know what, this didn't work out, and I'm going to
do that deal and send thirty six million dollars with
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a future Hall of Famer because I've got a reboot here.
I needed to change things up, as opposed to just
basically saying, well, we've got no choice, we've got to
run them back next year. I mean, it's a luxury
to be able to send away that amount of money
with a future Hall of Famer. It's it's it's something
that would be without president if they did that with
another future Hall of Famer justin Verlanders some time today,
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which by the way, they might do. So there they're
at least saying we've lost one season of bad decisions
and we're not going to lose two. And that takes
a lot of guts, it really does. And I think
that they are still a very far distance away from
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being as good as the Braves. The Braves are the
class of that division. And oh, by the way, the
Matts haven't signed Pete Alonzo yet, so when are you
going to do that? So there's a lot they still
have to do that. The Yankees are in a quandary
of a different sense. I mean they are in year
one of Carlos Rodin, who as we speak today has
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won one game for the Yankees. Now he's injured for
a lot of the year. But still when we ask
why are the Yankees not in good shape? They spent
almost as you know, it's one of the largest pitching
contracts in the history of the New York Yankees, and
they've gotten one win to show for it as of
August one. That is a significant issue for them to overcome.
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And and Aaron Judge, the reliance on Aaron, I just
don't you guys how they're going to make themselves into
a playoff team. And this day, there's just they don't
have the assets to move out and the the current
cast in in house is just not good enough in
my opinion, to make to make the playoffs j P.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
How how is it that teams can get so far
away from being what they were to win World Series? Like,
I'm I'm from Pittsburgh, so I'm a Pirates fan childhood,
but obviously lived in DC, A DC guy, so was
there when they brought the Nationals in and and and
you know, created the franchise and have been obviously a
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staff at fan staff ass fan for for since they've
been there. They're they're bad, They're they're not they're not
good at all. But not too long ago, they were,
you know, fighting to get World Series then finally eventually
get a World Series. And I know that there's always
discussions about how, you know, gms. I know Rizzo was
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the GM and and people like will say, well, they'll
mortgage the entire future just to be able to say
they got that one World Series. I mean, how does
that all work? How do you go from being a
top you know, a top of the class type of
organization and team to just being a seller dweller with
everything that's going on.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, it's a great question, Labar, because the Nationals, You're right,
that was only that was only four years ago. It's
remarkable to think that they won the World Series four
years ago and now the whole lineup has changed, has
changed over. Basically a couple of things have happened there.
Number one, Strasburg hasn't been able to pitch. That's that's
a big one. I mean, if they sign him to
a pretty big contract and he's never really been able
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to pitch, actually barely pitched since that World Series four
years ago. Wan Soto, they couldn't science. They traded him.
Now Soto brought back. And this is where I'm a
big believer. If you're a seller, sell lean into it,
don't don't go half way. And so when they had
Soto last year on the market, they found a team
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in the Padres that will make a move like that,
and they got Mackenzie Gore, they got c. J. Abrams,
they got Robert Assel, they got James Wood. They did
a really good jobs of bringing a lot of players,
and so they I think correctly assessed LeVar that the
Braves right now are so good and your divisions and
you're either able to compete with them right now or
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if you really can't, this is not a bad time,
especially if if you've won the World Series to read
to a little bit to and obviously their team that's
been up for sale for a while, that's another thing
to think about. So there's a lot of different dynamics
there with that team. But I like their core. I
think they're going to be a good team in a
couple of years, not right now, probably not even next year,
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but the deals they've made have been very, very wise.
Right now, the Braves are the class of the sport.
And one thing I love about about Atlanta And I
was talking about this last night with my friend Jeff Francour,
who's on the Braves broadcast. Their guys play every day,
and as an athlete, I'm sure you can respect that, LeVar.
(28:09):
These guys, the Braves have a lot of players that
do not take days off. They're in the lineup every
single day and that's how they built their team, and
it sets a really great standard around what they do,
how they report to work every day. Because they've got Olsen,
they've got Riley, they lose Dans re sponson, but Arcia
(28:30):
comes in and plays. They've got Harris, they've got a
Kunuho's probably the best player in baseball right now purely offensively.
So they got a good team. It's been a good
time for the Nationals to kind of regroup, and I
think they'll come back strong here in a couple.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Of years, all right, John Paul Morose, Yeah, I know
it's a busy day for you. Before we let you go,
we got about you know, ninety seconds you mentioned justin Verlander.
What are the other big names you expect to be
on the move and teams that are interested in those names?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Sure, so I think Verlander, you know, stay tuned. They
are on the Orioles, but more importantly probably the Astros
and the Dodgers. That the Tigers have a couple pitchers
to move, Michael Lorenzen and Eduardo Rodriguez. The Mariners have
all of a sudden become sellers in the last forty
eight hours. The Oscar Hernandez could be on the move
and the Blue Jays might be one team interested in
(29:18):
reacquiring him. And I think the big news last night
was the Boba Schett injury in Toronto. We don't know
how serious it is right now, but they are likely
in the market from getting if not a shortstop, maybe
they would move to some of their existing personnel around
and add a bat externally and again to Oscar and
Endez is one possibility to watch there. So that's a
(29:39):
quick quick look at at some of the more interesting sellers.
I do think that the Chicago White Sox that they
still have to moves to make Tim Anderson as a
possibility Aaron Bummer. They've they've got some more players to move.
It's been a busy week already, and my friends, it's
going to get even busier on my favorite day of
the entire year. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Right use John Paul Morose.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
He's an MLB insider for Fox Sports Radio and MLB Network.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
He'd be very busy all day.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Long with all the latest and you can get him
on Twitter at John Rosee JP. We appreciate it. It's
great catching up with you. We'll talk Michigan football. Here
is the season. Get TV.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yeah, I can't wait. Joes and LeVar, It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I look honestly the fall. One
of my favorite reasons for the season is I get
a chance to have my baseball playoff talks with you
guys and wind it around to Penn State and Michigan.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I love talking Michigan is going to be good this year. Yeah,
they are, so are we. JP, You're the best. We'll
do it soon.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I'm going to stay couse of that game. I'm making
plans right now. I don't have all the details, but
I'm going to be there.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I may see you there. All right, Well, we'll have
to link up, all right, as on me there he is,
love it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
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Speaker 2 (32:49):
Would you rather your random topics, sports or otherwise?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
All right, lead to the lab. What do we got guys?
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Would you rather have a spider infestation or a mouse
infestation in your spider?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Spider all day? Easily? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Because I feel like mice multiplies so quick. Rats too, Like,
if you see a rat, you got to get rid
of that immediately, because if you wait a week, they'll
be fifteen more right behind it. Got to get rid
of it immediately. Go out, get yourself a trap. I
don't care if you got to like duct tape a
bear trap underneath the door and you got to roll
(33:28):
the dice on stepping on it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You got to get rid of those. They just out, man.
I mean, spiders are creepy too, But I just feel like,
I don't know, I feel like both of them don't
want to be bothered. They definitely want to have their
own way of doing things. But there's just something about mice, rodents, altogether.
That just skeeve me to no end. Man, It's just
(33:52):
not no good. Rather deal with spider yeah when you
see it. Although although spider us now if you say it,
infest it with like black widows or tarantulas or something
like that. I take the mice because I don't want
to be poisoned by being bit by one.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The tarantula is harmless, yeah, but they have venom. Yeah,
but like I listen, you wanna.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Get bit by a transula, Get bit by a transula,
get bit by a field mouse. This is probably uh,
it's probably not a nice sing the song. Here we go.
I just I swear to God.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
So you know, tarantulas have no real skeletal structure.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
If you hold one in your hand and drop it
on the ground, it explodes. It's like a cake. It's
it's like carrying us. Like I think this is so funny.
Is funny, It's kind of funny. It's like, yeah, explode.
You ever ever see you ever seen somebody with cotton candy?
Like for anybody that's at a carnival or affair this
(34:53):
upcoming weekend, you see somebody with cotton candy, just go
dump like a little bit of water on it.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's a ansela.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So if I know that about your underside, I know
I'm not worried about you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
A black widow.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Though you're reaching to grab something, you get bit next thing,
you know, you pull out and your hand looks like et.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, I just I might take the problem if they're
if they're venomous, I might take the mouse. What else
you got? Guys?
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Would you rather be infamous in the history books or
forgotten after your death?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Infamous just at least remember me, remember me?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of people remember
Jeffrey Dahmer, right, Okay, I don't know, think.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
About that, Like, like serial killers are in some cases
more famous than famous people. They have like like Manson, Dahmer,
The Night the Night Stalker, like you got all these
serial killers that Bundy and Bundy like people like No, Yeah,
(36:01):
I don't know. I'd rather be infamous, though, because I
just don't want to be forgotten. I mean, so if
I don't get famous enough like this way, I'm gonna
do something crazy before I check up at it here.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, I'd rather be forgotten because, you know, especially doing
this show, like it's a.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Clear like pecking order. So there you go. It's already dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I didn't want to have to break a twenty, that's
why I did it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So there's my two. There you go. Oh what else
we got? Guys?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Would you rather have everything you eat be too salty
or not salty enough, no matter how much you salty?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Not too salty? Yeah, not too salty. You know what's weird.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I didn't even know anybody that uses a salt shaker
when they go to a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
When's the last time I use a salt shit and
I shake it like one too? Yeah, a second, like
a salt shika. I don't know. I don't know the
last time I but I would want it to be
too salty. Too salty is the worst it is. That's
the worst you can ruin. I'd rather be bland than
be too salty. Go ahead, guys, it's a National spider
(37:02):
Man Day. Would you rather be Batman or spider Man? Batman?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Spider Man's a weirdo. He basically runs around in a
yogaut fit and climbs.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Building, which it's weird. I'd rather be spider Man because
he actually has powers that are not like Batman's. He's
a person like Spider Spider Man can like shoot his
web and all that stuff. Didn't he have to have
a web shooter? Though? It depends on which Spider Man
you're talking, right, One of them had to have a
(37:31):
web shooter, right, Yes, so some of them have to
actually have a machine. Some of them just don't need that.
I'd rather be Spider. How would you know that, Lee?
I watch movies? Yeah, there you go.
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I don't know ways to handle the fighting at training camp.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Kevin Stefanski of the Browns, he made him run sprints.
There were multiple fights that broke out this past weekend.
They're in this remote it's what was the Greenbrier in
uh in, West Virginia. So apparently they get all hot
and bothered out there and guys are throwing down multiple times,
and Stefanski got frustrated by it and made him run
(02:12):
sprints afterwards. I don't know why everybody's not as relaxed
as Deshaun Watson is. I don't get it, you know,
like take it easy, just take it easy, you know,
just you know, he seems loose, he sne yeah, just
really everything's fine. And then you got the Tennessee Titans,
who have a different strategy. According to the Tennessee and
(02:33):
Mike Rabel, he described the scuffles at practice because they
had an issue with it over the past couple of days,
as dumb bleep that hurts the team, and he pledged
to discipline any player who decides they want to fight
by banishing them to a sand pit located in a
remote corner of the practice field to continue practicing.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So you've got one strategy fight, go hang out in
the sandpit. Of all people, Mike Vrabel should know that.
I mean, he played for the Steelers. Come on, the
guys get a little chippy hair.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
It's just uh, I mean, just feels like this is
part for the course when it comes to training camp
now it is.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It is a bit early.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
The Jets had some issues that popped up at training
camp where they had guys throwing down, and there was
some some thought that maybe it was for the cameras,
that maybe guys were getting a little bit a little
bit pissy with each other because they wanted to show
something for hard knocks.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
But it just, I mean, guys get a little lathered up.
They'd be ready. Guys be ready for training camp, and
sometimes that ready like kind of escalates into some some
chippy moments. He saw the one play WHOA what what?
What practice was that the linebacker slapped He slapped the
(03:54):
lineman upside the head in the backfield, and then something happened.
There was an interception that was thrown, and then the
lineman chase the linebacker down and then they started started
kind of mixing it up. I forget what practice.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Travis Kelsey also got in a couple of different fights
with guys and vowed to be a better teammate afterwards.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I mean, is it about being a better teammate or
are you just like kind of just annoyed with each other.
I mean, you're just you're you're working, you're working to
get better. You're working, you're working to prepare for something,
something great, something extraordinary, and sometimes fighting and practice is
(04:36):
a part of it. I tell people all the time,
People ask why why why do you fight? Like, what's
your reasoning for fighting? I said, It's very simple for me.
If I come out to practice and our level of
competition was flat and and it was low terms of
(04:57):
energy in terms of just what our folks, he says,
I start a fight like I had start a fight,
because once you start a fight, it escalates the the
level of intensity. It takes you into a place where
the stakes have now been been you know, raised. And
it worked every time. It worked every time.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Like one of those guys in hockey they're down three
four goals and they're like, all right, somebody go start
a fight, and they just go out there and they
just throw I read there was a there was a
series Penguins Flyer series back in I want to say
two thousand and nine. I think it was two thousand
and nine, Yeah, and it was Maxim Talbot who went
out and fought some guy for I think it was
(05:42):
uh Carcillo of the Flyers. I think it was Dan
Carcilo of the Flyers and the Penguins were losing. It
was a pivotal game in the series and Max Talbot
went out there and picked a fight with this guy,
got his ass. Whoop, knew he was going to get
his ass, and the Penguins ended up winning the game.
It completely changed the momentum of the game because he
(06:05):
just decided, all right, somebody's got to do something and
just went out there and got roughed up, took one
for the.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Team got everybody rolled. Yeah, it was, and it was
they were on the road. So maybe there's something to that. No,
there's one hundred I'm being honest, there's one hundred percent
something to it. When you fight the other side and
the same side all rally like on the side that
like whoever got his ass whipped? Like they rallying, like
(06:31):
you can't just whip our asses like that, like no way.
And then on the other side of it, like you
whipped his ass, like let's whip all their asses, like
let's let's handle let's handle this business, like let's handle
this little bit of business that we got going on here.
Everybody rallies, So why do coaches get so pissy about it?
They don't. They really don't. Oh so this is all
(06:52):
they really don't. That's why I'm saying Mike Rabel, he
should be a same to himself, or even saying it
because he played during an era. They probably fight at
Ohio State. I know they fought in Pittsburgh. So it's
just that's a that's a part of now. Now things
have continued to get a little bit more laid back,
as you mentioned, Deshaun Watson. Things have got laid back,
(07:16):
like real, real laid back where where maybe there's not
as much intensity towards you know, things like that. There
was a time where you could tackle and take guys
down to the ground. They don't they don't want you
tackling and taking guys down to the ground, like they
just want you to thud up. Rabel told a story.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I think he was on Busting with the Boys with
Taylor Lawan and Will Compton and he was he was
telling a story how when Rodney Harrison first got to
New England that it was like Kevin Falk. I think
it might have been Kevin Falk was a running back
and there was some sort of a wheel route or
something like that, and they were in pads, but nobody
was really completely banging at that point. And I guess
(08:00):
Rodney Harrison hit him pretty hard, cracked him really hard,
and somebody yelled at Rodney Harrison. They were like, you
can't do that. It was like some offensive lineman and
he said, shut up, I'll do what I want. And
then it was the offensive line coach, Dante Scarniki. I
believe it was said, you can't do that. We're not
doing that here, and Rodney Harrison looked at the offensive
(08:21):
line coach like.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Shut up, old man, I'll whoop your ass too. And
he just got there.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And Rabel said he looked over at Ted Teddy Bruce
k and he was like, oh, we got one.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Like okay, I guess that's how it's gonna go. So yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
To hear rabl undefeated and to hear Rabels say, you
know you guys are gonna be a please he went
to meet room, was like, good job, guys, let's keep
that intensity up. What was the best fight you saw
or were a part of in training camp?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Uh? They had.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
The best one was and not Michael Westbrook beating up
a teammate.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That was the year before I got there. That was
the year before I got there. The best one was
when Jesse armstad and and Chad Morton were going at
it in practice like coverage wise, like we were in
like a Skelly period and something happened and Jay was
(09:25):
like really kind of bothered by what Chad had did,
and next thing you know, they get tangled up the
very next play, and you know, I was like, oh
this is you know, anytime I got an opportunity to
start a fight, that's what I did so when when
they mixed it up, I ran up on them and
I just took I took Chad down. So then now
me and and Jesse Armstad are are basically like just
(09:52):
dragging Chad Chad Morton on the ground. His little ass
is strong too, by the way it was, that's a
strong dude. So he he's holding his own but we
on we on top of him, giving him the business.
Then here come the offensive lineman from all the way
over somewhere else, and they come running over, and then
the rest of our linebackers came running over, and it
(10:12):
was about it was probably about ended up being probably
about double digits worth for dudes that was slamming each
other and rolling around on the ground and the dust
was coming up and stuff like that. But that was
probably the best one because at that moment it was
like me and me and Jesse rushed him like, well,
(10:34):
Jesse was tangled up with him. I actually rushed him,
and yeah, I mean, I don't know. I do know.
Coaches get uncomfortable. Coaches do get uncomfortable with fights and
practice because you never want somebody I remember I hit
somebody upside the head in college and I had like
this crazy ass contusion on my arm. Like I literally
(10:56):
had to wear like a heart, like a heart like
pad over top of this contusion that I had. And
it was like Michigan week or something. I don't know,
but we were going and like one thing led to
another and it was Josh Mitchell. I'll never forget that
one either. Like I punched Josh upside the head. I
(11:17):
punched Josh up side of it. My whole arm, the
inside of my forearm just started swelling and it wouldn't stop.
And it just kept going and it kept going, and
they kept going. They're like, I told you don't be fighting.
Who is that? Like Joe, you ain't even watching our
side of the ball. Get out of here. But he
(11:38):
knew he saw, he saw everything.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
By the way, I tried to find proof because we
want to make sure that we're being one hundred percent
forthcoming and accurate on this program.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Accuracy is the number one you're looking Twitter, all right,
So I'm trying to find nobody worried about no Russell
Wilson and I'm plenty great.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now this is this is about that fight that you mentioned. Okay,
so this was in the Baltimore Sun. Now, I tried
to find the full article that I couldn't, but I
found the preview, and the preview says this. It's from
two thousand and three, and it says after loss Redskins
show fight in practice, and it just says running back
(12:19):
Chad Morton and linebacker Jesse Armstead tangled twice. Linebacker LeVar
Arrington went after wide receiver Rod Gardner?
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, and then is that what it says? And then
I couldn't find the rest of the article. So why
are you going after Remember that me and Rod, we're
boys to this day, I don't even remember that. Why
are you going after Rod Gardner hose? Like that? Say
that again, Rod Gardner hose? Like that? Why are you
going after Gardner hose? I got what you did because
(12:49):
Rod had hose back then. So I thought that she
was talking about, why was I going after Rod Gardner's hose?
And that's why we fought? But and that could very
well have been what it was. I mean, two thousand
and one, two thousand, two thousand, that's safe Like two
thousand and three, First Party two that season two thousand
and three, I might have gone after some of his hosts.
(13:12):
I'm just saying I mean that could have been why
we would locking it up. I mean I mean that
did I mean that those politics played out on the
field sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I mean yeah, But little Danny wouldn't run a place
like that, you know, little Dandy Snyder wouldn't run place
like that.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Come on, please, yeah, I tell you what you talk about.
To tell you it's Two Pros and a Cup of
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas and Ox with you. So
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here in just a couple of moments from now and
then make sure you stick around. We've got a fun
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twenty minutes. But right now, let's turn it over to
John Palmrosi. He is an MLB insider for Fox Sports Radio.
(14:31):
You see him on MLB Network JPM. We were just
talking like there's really nothing you can't do, Like we
remember when you popped on one time and just decided,
oh yeah, look what I got in my back pocket
and you spoke fluid Italian on the air. Is there
anything you can't do, John Palmrosi, Well, there's a lot.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
That I can do. Trust me, Jonas and LeVar, I'm
going to household of five. I am by far the
least talented and least interesting person in my own high
So I promise you that I am as I'm frequently
reminded by by my three amazing daughters. Like I'm trying
to be cool, guys, I'm really trying. I'm trying to
(15:11):
be able to to sing along to kill the swift
songs with them. But I'm just I'm doing the best
that I can.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, you can get him on Twitter at John Morosi
if you'd like to challenge him on some of that.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
No one, okay, Jonathan Levart, no one today trust me
there to name Rosie. We want baseball info, right. No
one is asking for me to sing be Dazzled or
any of the great they're all great songs, but no one, uh,
no one really can or Bejeweled, right, Jeweled, that's right. No,
no one can can expect me to sing swift with
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any with any degree of affluency there.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So I want to.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Ask you, I just want to go back, because we're
obviously going to get to some of the names that
are going to potentially be on the move later on today.
Is the trade deadline is later on this evening. But
I want to go back. And there was all this
conversation about show Hao Tan and what's going to happen?
Is he going to be on the move? And it
appears that no, you know, the Angels are going to
sit tight. They've they've added pieces around him, and they're
(16:07):
going to try and really go for it this year.
What was the reasoning behind that? From your understanding, did
they get any sort of an indication that he was
planning on being their long term or is this just
a let's go for it and we'll deal with this
after the year.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
It's the latter, I believe Jonas. I don't think there's
been any reassurance from show Ay's camp at all about
what lies beyond the end of this twenty twenty three
Major League season. I think a couple of things stood out.
Number one, the Angels realized that their only chance to
sign him is by making the playoffs and by proving
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to him that he can win in Anaheim. I think
that the Dodgers obviously are going to have a really
compelling case. The Dodgers. They'll be able to tell him
we've done nothing but win the last ten years. You
can stay in southern California and and play with Freddie
Freeman and Mookie Betts and Clayton Kershaw and make that
(17:05):
point to him. But I so, I still think the
Dodgers have an excellent chance to sign him this offseason.
But this is not about that from the age of
perspective as much as it is they've got to do
the best they can to get the most out of
the time they've got with him, and and they've I
think done done a very good job with this deadline,
and that credit Berrymnazi, and I credit ownership and Artie
(17:27):
Moreno for investing in the team. They just they had
an injury with Taylor Wood. They went out there and
got Randal Gritchick at CJ Cron. They've already added Lucas
Gelido and Ranaldo Lopez. They've done a really good job
of strengthening their chances, at least for the for the
wild Card. They won a big game in Atlanta last night,
So I admire that. I mean, at the end of
the day, they're often we talk at this time of
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year about managing your assets, and that's great, and that's
what gms are supposed to do. But let's not forget
what this is. This is still a show business asking
people to spend their hard and Marney to watch your
team play and stream or treat your team's games and
do all those things that you ask your fans to do.
And you've got the most marketable star in North American
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sports right now, Why why do you trade them? If
you still have a chance And they played well enough
this month of our and Jonas and they basically said
we can. We can still make them run of this thing.
And I credit the Angels for doing it. There there.
There are some fans that say, well, they should have
traded them when they had the chance. I'm not so sure.
I think that your fans want to see him play.
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You've got a chance to get sixty home runs. There's
a lot of value.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
There, JP. I'm glad you stayed at the whole fans
paying to see a product. I was with a buddy
of mine last week and he's a former pro player
and has coached, and we were talking and he was
just talking about the differences in how the league has
evolved from your perspective, what what are these gms and
what are these these organizations? What are they looking for
(19:00):
or when trying to trade. I mean, obviously you can
never have enough pitchers on your staff. I get that,
But are you looking for guys that can get on base?
Are you looking for big hitters? Are you looking for defense? Like?
What is like the most important you know, part of
this trade deadline? And what these these organizations are looking
for Olivar.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
It's a great question. I think. One thing that I
know in talking to Scott Harris, who's the Tigers president
of baseball operations. He's just got the job last year.
His guiding principle since taking the job has been dominating
the strike zone. And that is in two ways. That is,
on the pitching side, you got to have guys that
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fill up the strike zone with quality stuff and can
grow repeatable strikes and know how to get major league
hitters out with quality stuff in the zone, because you
might be able to get an a ball guy to chase,
but you know, Mike Trout is not going to chase,
and Otani is not going to chase, So how do
you get them out in the zone. And on the
pitching side, On the hitting side, it's a matter of
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again not chasing. It's you look for the for the
exact hitting perspective on that, which is understanding how to
make good swing decisions, having a good swing that gets
your bat in in the hitting zone as long as possible.
Those are the things that you need. And and so
I think that the the overall idea for teams right
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now is to defind pitchers who fill up the zone
and hitters who understand how to dominate the zone. And
and that that to me is one of the really
interesting parts about how you evaluate a young player and
and how you see something at the minor league level.
And translated that even to the major league level. It
was interesting yesterday on the on our MLB Network broadcast,
(20:47):
Tom Berducci made the point that teams now are in
terms of their ability to try to figure out if
their pictures are tipping pitches, that they even can use
AI to try to evaluate a pictures delivery and if
they're becoming too predictable. So I mean, we're like next
level on this analysis nowadays, stuff that I could even
(21:08):
begin to understand. But I the one, the one trade
I'll mention really quickly. Last night, the Guardians trade the
pitcher Aaron Savali to Tampa, and some have criticized, well,
are they selling right now? They're still in a playoff
contending spot. But the guy they got back, Kyle Manzardo,
is is going to be their first basement of the future,
(21:28):
including potentially as early as next year, and maybe he's
even ready right now. And so if you're if you're
making a trade like that, I pushed back on the
notion that that was a buy and sell trade, that
was a need for need trade, that was that was
what we call a good old fashioned baseball trade, where
I've got a surplus of this and I need that,
so let's do. Let's make this trade. And that's what
(21:51):
I saw there from Cleveland and Tampa. And I hope
we see more trades like that today because they end
up being a lot of fun for baseball conversation.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
How about John Paul Rosi? You us here on Fox
Sports Radio. He is our MLB insider. You can also
see him on MLB Network at John Morosi on Twitter.
As we get you set for the trade deadline, how
bad are things going to get for either the Mets
or the Yankees or both over the next few hours here, Well.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Let's put it this way. Jason Smith hosts the Late
Night Show. He's probably still awake worried right now about
about the state of his Mets, Right, That's what I
would say about how Jason's feeling in all Mets fans.
I mean, let's just take this one sentence in isolation
and reflect on it for a second. They spent thirty
(22:37):
six million dollars to make a future Hall of Fame
pitcher and Max Sure's or go away.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Think about that.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
Wow, They spent thirty six million dollars at Ben Max
out the door, which is just it's rather staggering. Now
they got back a prospect, the younger brother of Ronald
Acuna Junior, Luisan Helocunya, which is also interesting. But so
the Mets. And here's where I'll credit them for this,
which might sound a little awkward, but I'll make the point.
(23:07):
They went all in last offseason. They've been all in
ever since Steve Cohen took over, and this year was
a mistake. They made some mistakes this year. It takes
a lot of guts as an owner to say, you
know what, this didn't work out, and I'm going to
do that deal and send thirty six million dollars with
(23:28):
a future Hall of Famer because I've got a reboot here.
I needed to change things up, as opposed to just
basically saying, well, we've got no choice, we've got to
run them back next year. I mean, it's a luxury
to be able to send away that amount of money
with a future Hall of Famer. It's it's it's something
that would be without president if they did that with
another future Hall of Famer justin Verlanders some time today,
(23:50):
which by the way, they might do. So there they're
at least saying we've lost one season of bad decisions
and we're not going to lose two. And that takes
a lot of guts, it really does. And I think
that they are still a very far distance away from
(24:10):
being as good as the Braves. The Braves are the
class of that division. And oh, by the way, the
Matts haven't signed Pete Alonzo yet, so when are you
going to do that? So there's a lot they still
have to do that. The Yankees are in a quandary
of a different sense. I mean they are in year
one of Carlos Rodin, who as we speak today has
(24:31):
won one game for the Yankees. Now he's injured for
a lot of the year. But still when we ask
why are the Yankees not in good shape? They spent
almost as you know, it's one of the largest pitching
contracts in the history of the New York Yankees, and
they've gotten one win to show for it as of
August one. That is a significant issue for them to overcome.
(24:55):
And and Aaron Judge, the reliance on Aaron, I just
don't you guys how they're going to make themselves into
a playoff team. And this day, there's just they don't
have the assets to move out and the the current
cast in in house is just not good enough in
my opinion, to make to make the playoffs j P.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
How how is it that teams can get so far
away from being what they were to win World Series? Like,
I'm I'm from Pittsburgh, so I'm a Pirates fan childhood,
but obviously lived in DC, A DC guy, so was
there when they brought the Nationals in and and and
you know, created the franchise and have been obviously a
(25:37):
staff at fan staff ass fan for for since they've
been there. They're they're bad, They're they're not they're not
good at all. But not too long ago, they were,
you know, fighting to get World Series then finally eventually
get a World Series. And I know that there's always
discussions about how, you know, gms. I know Rizzo was
(26:00):
the GM and and people like will say, well, they'll
mortgage the entire future just to be able to say
they got that one World Series. I mean, how does
that all work? How do you go from being a
top you know, a top of the class type of
organization and team to just being a seller dweller with
everything that's going on.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah, it's a great question, Labar, because the Nationals, You're right,
that was only that was only four years ago. It's
remarkable to think that they won the World Series four
years ago and now the whole lineup has changed, has
changed over. Basically a couple of things have happened there.
Number one, Strasburg hasn't been able to pitch. That's that's
a big one. I mean, if they sign him to
a pretty big contract and he's never really been able
(26:42):
to pitch, actually barely pitched since that World Series four
years ago. Wan Soto, they couldn't science. They traded him.
Now Soto brought back. And this is where I'm a
big believer. If you're a seller, sell lean into it,
don't don't go half way. And so when they had
Soto last year on the market, they found a team
(27:04):
in the Padres that will make a move like that,
and they got Mackenzie Gore, they got c. J. Abrams,
they got Robert Assel, they got James Wood. They did
a really good jobs of bringing a lot of players,
and so they I think correctly assessed LeVar that the
Braves right now are so good and your divisions and
you're either able to compete with them right now or
(27:26):
if you really can't, this is not a bad time,
especially if if you've won the World Series to read
to a little bit to and obviously their team that's
been up for sale for a while, that's another thing
to think about. So there's a lot of different dynamics
there with that team. But I like their core. I
think they're going to be a good team in a
couple of years, not right now, probably not even next year,
(27:49):
but the deals they've made have been very, very wise.
Right now, the Braves are the class of the sport.
And one thing I love about about Atlanta And I
was talking about this last night with my friend Jeff Francour,
who's on the Braves broadcast. Their guys play every day,
and as an athlete, I'm sure you can respect that, LeVar.
(28:09):
These guys, the Braves have a lot of players that
do not take days off. They're in the lineup every
single day and that's how they built their team, and
it sets a really great standard around what they do,
how they report to work every day. Because they've got Olsen,
they've got Riley, they lose Dans re sponson, but Arcia
(28:30):
comes in and plays. They've got Harris, they've got a
Kunuho's probably the best player in baseball right now purely offensively.
So they got a good team. It's been a good
time for the Nationals to kind of regroup, and I
think they'll come back strong here in a couple.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Of years, all right, John Paul Morose, Yeah, I know
it's a busy day for you. Before we let you go,
we got about you know, ninety seconds you mentioned justin Verlander.
What are the other big names you expect to be
on the move and teams that are interested in those names?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Sure, so I think Verlander, you know, stay tuned. They
are on the Orioles, but more importantly probably the Astros
and the Dodgers. That the Tigers have a couple pitchers
to move, Michael Lorenzen and Eduardo Rodriguez. The Mariners have
all of a sudden become sellers in the last forty
eight hours. The Oscar Hernandez could be on the move
and the Blue Jays might be one team interested in
(29:18):
reacquiring him. And I think the big news last night
was the Boba Schett injury in Toronto. We don't know
how serious it is right now, but they are likely
in the market from getting if not a shortstop, maybe
they would move to some of their existing personnel around
and add a bat externally and again to Oscar and
Endez is one possibility to watch there. So that's a
(29:39):
quick quick look at at some of the more interesting sellers.
I do think that the Chicago White Sox that they
still have to moves to make Tim Anderson as a
possibility Aaron Bummer. They've they've got some more players to move.
It's been a busy week already, and my friends, it's
going to get even busier on my favorite day of
the entire year. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Right use John Paul Morose.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
He's an MLB insider for Fox Sports Radio and MLB Network.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
He'd be very busy all day.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Long with all the latest and you can get him
on Twitter at John Rosee JP. We appreciate it. It's
great catching up with you. We'll talk Michigan football. Here
is the season. Get TV.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
Yeah, I can't wait. Joes and LeVar, It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I look honestly the fall. One
of my favorite reasons for the season is I get
a chance to have my baseball playoff talks with you
guys and wind it around to Penn State and Michigan.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I love talking Michigan is going to be good this year. Yeah,
they are, so are we. JP, You're the best. We'll
do it soon.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
There.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
I'm going to stay couse of that game. I'm making
plans right now. I don't have all the details, but
I'm going to be there.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I may see you there. All right, Well, we'll have
to link up, all right, as on me there he is,
love it.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
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Speaker 2 (32:49):
Would you rather your random topics, sports or otherwise?
Speaker 1 (32:53):
All right, lead to the lab. What do we got guys?
Speaker 7 (32:56):
Would you rather have a spider infestation or a mouse
infestation in your spider?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Spider all day? Easily? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Because I feel like mice multiplies so quick. Rats too, Like,
if you see a rat, you got to get rid
of that immediately, because if you wait a week, they'll
be fifteen more right behind it. Got to get rid
of it immediately. Go out, get yourself a trap. I
don't care if you got to like duct tape a
bear trap underneath the door and you got to roll
(33:28):
the dice on stepping on it.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You got to get rid of those. They just out, man.
I mean, spiders are creepy too, But I just feel like,
I don't know, I feel like both of them don't
want to be bothered. They definitely want to have their
own way of doing things. But there's just something about mice, rodents, altogether.
That just skeeve me to no end. Man, It's just
(33:52):
not no good. Rather deal with spider yeah when you
see it. Although although spider us now if you say it,
infest it with like black widows or tarantulas or something
like that. I take the mice because I don't want
to be poisoned by being bit by one.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The tarantula is harmless, yeah, but they have venom. Yeah,
but like I listen, you wanna.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Get bit by a transula, Get bit by a transula,
get bit by a field mouse. This is probably uh,
it's probably not a nice sing the song. Here we go.
I just I swear to God.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
So you know, tarantulas have no real skeletal structure.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
That's correct.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
If you hold one in your hand and drop it
on the ground, it explodes. It's like a cake. It's
it's like carrying us. Like I think this is so funny.
Is funny, It's kind of funny. It's like, yeah, explode.
You ever ever see you ever seen somebody with cotton candy?
Like for anybody that's at a carnival or affair this
(34:53):
upcoming weekend, you see somebody with cotton candy, just go
dump like a little bit of water on it.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
That's a ansela.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
So if I know that about your underside, I know
I'm not worried about you.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
A black widow.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Though you're reaching to grab something, you get bit next thing,
you know, you pull out and your hand looks like et.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yeah, I just I might take the problem if they're
if they're venomous, I might take the mouse. What else
you got? Guys?
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Would you rather be infamous in the history books or
forgotten after your death?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Infamous just at least remember me, remember me?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of people remember
Jeffrey Dahmer, right, Okay, I don't know, think.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
About that, Like, like serial killers are in some cases
more famous than famous people. They have like like Manson, Dahmer,
The Night the Night Stalker, like you got all these
serial killers that Bundy and Bundy like people like No, Yeah,
(36:01):
I don't know. I'd rather be infamous, though, because I
just don't want to be forgotten. I mean, so if
I don't get famous enough like this way, I'm gonna
do something crazy before I check up at it here.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, I'd rather be forgotten because, you know, especially doing
this show, like it's a.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Clear like pecking order. So there you go. It's already dollars.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
I didn't want to have to break a twenty, that's
why I did it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
So there's my two. There you go. Oh what else
we got? Guys?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Would you rather have everything you eat be too salty
or not salty enough, no matter how much you salty?
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Not too salty? Yeah, not too salty. You know what's weird.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I didn't even know anybody that uses a salt shaker
when they go to a restaurant.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
When's the last time I use a salt shit and
I shake it like one too? Yeah, a second, like
a salt shika. I don't know. I don't know the
last time I but I would want it to be
too salty. Too salty is the worst it is. That's
the worst you can ruin. I'd rather be bland than
be too salty. Go ahead, guys, it's a National spider
(37:02):
Man Day. Would you rather be Batman or spider Man? Batman?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Spider Man's a weirdo. He basically runs around in a
yogaut fit and climbs.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Building, which it's weird. I'd rather be spider Man because
he actually has powers that are not like Batman's. He's
a person like Spider Spider Man can like shoot his
web and all that stuff. Didn't he have to have
a web shooter? Though? It depends on which Spider Man
you're talking, right, One of them had to have a
(37:31):
web shooter, right, Yes, so some of them have to
actually have a machine. Some of them just don't need that.
I'd rather be Spider. How would you know that, Lee?
I watch movies? Yeah, there you go.
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