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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar arrings, Rating Win and Jonas Knox on
Box Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
For those of you that are just waking up and
just joining us, here a couple of things to just
sort of lay out for you. First and foremost, congratulations,
the US women's soccer team is on the way to
the knockout stages. If you missed the game, hey you
didn't miss much. Not exactly the greatest game of the world.
They finished zero zero, nil nil, got the watch nothing.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, they ran around a bunch.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
So if you're into ninety minute cardio matches, that's what
you got between the US women's soccer team and Portugal.
So they are on their way to the knockout stages
because they did finish in a tie, so they advance
on the aggregate, So congratulations on that. Also, we've talked
about this before, LeVar. Last year it was a real problem,
and I know that you were in Vegas, so maybe
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you have not dealt with this yet. But this first weekend,
this past weekend was the first weekend this year where
I can confirm the ankle biting Mosquito is back. I
am destroyed I've got braille on my legs from these
bastards that are flying around sucking blood as I'm trying
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to just sit outside because it's way too hot outside.
And so you are going to have to deal with
this if you are in town this upcoming weekend or not. Okay,
well then you're not gonna have to deal with it.
But the point is for anybody listening on the Blowtorch
and five to seventy LA Sports and all across the country,
it just wants you to know, if you're dealing with
some mosquito issues, don't worry.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
You are not alone. It's a problem, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I live on I live on like I always said,
I live on a mountain, which, by the way, we
have like it's been a bear a bear reunion of
some sort or or family reunion. I don't know, but
apparently there's like four or five of these big ass
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beers running around where I live, like knocking down the trash,
like they called up the family and is like, look man,
they got that high end trash over here, Like where
you at that like you getting scrapched? Like come come
with us, like.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
They just had last night.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Hey man, like look here we five star over here,
like I'm putting on real good weight. You see me
right now, I'm looking good, are not? Like I look
real strong? Like you gonna come over here, man. A
whole bunch of beers out like a whole bunch and
they rolling together. Anyway, the mosquitoes and the insects. First
of all, I just realized that those big flying deals
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that I thought were mosquitoes, yeah, are crane flies. I
always thought they were mosquitoes. You know, those big long wings,
long legs and all that stuff that be flying around.
You think they're mosquitoes flies.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Oh, the mosquito hawks. They eat mosquitos, eat mosquitoes, right,
I didn't know that. Yeah, you want those? I always
thought they were mosquitoes. Oh no, no, they take care
of that. Yeah, they eat them.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
One.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
And anyway, so these little these these little like mosquito
looking to you.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Have you been killing them with your zappers? Strike?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
That's friendly fire, striking them same team, boy, straight.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I strike all of them. I strike them all, and.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I cook them like I get them caught up into
that bad boy. And it's like this is because what
I realized is is when you first hit them and
you zap them is like, wow, you zap them. They
were covered like them crane flies. They recover pretty good
from them, those those zappers. You gotta cook them, got
get them caught up in there. I just keep pumping there,
I keep pumping because they cook. You can smell them cooking.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And they probably feel like Joe Pashy at the Endicacy,
you know, seeing his brother get thrown man like thinking
of themselves, like LeVar, We're supposed to be on the
same team here, like we're supposed to be out to
get mosquitoes, and and you're taking a bat to us
and throwing us in a cane field.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Come on, man, I'm out there taking them all down.
If you don't, if you don't, if your last name
isn't Errington, you can get it.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
That thing be like plap crackle, crackle, crackle. They call
you bug Crawford. That's what they do. That's what they do.
And all them bugs is Spencers. I take out the Spences,
bug Crawford. It's funny.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, man's fun so you you wipe it out. I'd
be hey, look.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Here, man, but we got we have so many insects
on that mountain because the mountain is literally right behind
my house. There's not we we use fly traps. We
use we try not to trap bees, but we have
a gazillion bees. We have so many bees. They get
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so hot or whatever it is, they start coming through
they find a way through like my chimney or through
my something, and they start coming in.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
To the house. I'm allergic. That's a nightmare for me.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Oh bro, There's been times where I've had like I've
walked into the restroom to go take a doucer or
go go take a sour, and there's like twenty twenty bucks,
twenty bees flying around in the bathroom. In the bathroom
that may as well be flying pipe bombs. For me,
I'm out of there. I will literally run to the
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neighbor's house and risk getting shot as opposed to deal
with bees. And then but then here's the dilemma you
find yourself having, Like there's twenty bees in here, and
they seem like they're really pissed off, Like they're not
happy bees, they're upset bees. Yeah, you didn't like them,
so I didn't get in there before they were in there,
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so they didn't have anything to have to deal with.
But it's like, you know how important the bees are
to the ecosystem, so you don't want to kill them.
So I'd be trying to like really corral twenty bees
while you're let to free them while you're sitting on
the toilet.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
No okay, no, I'm.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Not like, oh, let me sit down to knock knock
out multiple birds with one stone like it's I literally
will try to like capture the bees and release them,
but they're aggressive, like they're super aggressive. So then you
get to the point of where it's like I can't
capture them. I'm either going to fog you or I'm
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going to zap you out the racket and I pull
out like once you've once you've started attacking me, it's
time to attack back. I start wielding that guy dang zapper,
and it just be just carnage everywhere.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Yeah, man, so there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You gotta lay the law down. Sometimes I felt like
the other week man, I had that that god dang zapper.
I was doing all the tricks with the zapper. Then
I took it together. I put my hands together like
Conan did, and then put it over my head like
I could hear the music. Don't don't don't Doom don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't.
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And the more the music don't, don't, don't, don't, then
I just started wearing them bees the hell out.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Man.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
They was like I was taking them out like Conan
was in the movie Man. Yeah, those were like the
evil the evil henchmen, and I was just I was
I was just taking them.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
It went from trying to save them to y'all want
y'all want to smoke. Huh, you want to smoke. I'll
be back. I'll be back.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
When got my sword, I had to go ahead and
get Conan on and get made evil on.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
That ad gotta be done.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean now, the one thing that I would recommend
not taking the sword to are lizards or lazards.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Oh I saw what you did there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Because Alan Lazard of the New York Jets, he doubled
down in the defense of Nathaniel Hackett. He spoke about
Aaron Rodgers speaking up defending their offensive coordinator. Let's take
a listen to the New Jets wide receiver.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
I've publicly said I think Hackett's the best coach and
really teacher I've ever had. In my life, his personality,
his style of teaching, of coaching, his vulnerability just to
be himself. I think it's very powerful and it speaks
in high regards of him being comfortable within himself.
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
I think what Aaron said kind of just spoke for
everyone here at the end of the day, their comments
and when the tide of the own opinion, we got
bigger things to worry about than other people worrying about
our offensive coordinator.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, so that's Alan force to me. Alan, Yeah, that's
it was. It was. It wasn't even needed.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Alan, that's a a soft approach. It's like let it
be like like now. Now, it's like now. It almost
paints the picture like it's like victim Nathaniel Hackett, Right,
he's we got to come to his rescue, like we
we have to stand up for him.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
There's like a victim sort of we got everybody's got
a defendive like Rogers came out spoke about it, and
look makes all the sense in the world. That's the
reason why who says their coach he's the most vulnerable
person I've ever Like, what the hell? I can't think
of one coach I could sit there and say Oh yeah,
I love the way he taught me. He was so vulnerable,
(09:50):
Like you were saying that about Dale Lindsay, were you
You didn't say that?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Hell yeah, for sure had said that. I said he
could kiss my ass.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
And there's bad information I got from somebody both cheek
but hey man, not one.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I just feel like, what what's the purpose in this?
Like you? You you want to you want to get
something out of this?
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Too lazard, Like, what's the purpose of it? It's it's
just doubling down on look like say hack is good,
like you, you want to come out with a great
quote for it for your interview and not come across
sounding like you're soft and making and making Hackett look
even softer than what he already looked.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Just say hack is good, Hack's good, We're good, We're good.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Here here's where I think this is going to go,
because Sean Payton was asked about it and just said, oh, well,
you know, we're past that. Like they've said, oh did
you hear Aaron Rodgers criticizing you, And Sean Payton was like, oh,
we're past that. And it's like, okay, you may be
past it, but the problem is the Jets have now
used it as a rallying cry. Now you've got Alan
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Lazar doubling down on it. Now you know, Hard Knocks
is going to make a story out of this, Like
it's going to be played out on Hard Knocks and
there's going to be built up and built up and
built up. And you and Brady talked about it yesterday
that when week five turns around and we get into October,
it's going down. Like the Jets are not going to
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forget about this, Like Sean Payton made life a little
bit difficult more difficult for the Denver Broncos, and he
made things more difficult on Russell Wilson with the way
he handled it. But it does feel like the Jets
are using this and this is going to be their
go to, Like everyone's been talking about, We're tired of
hearing about the Jets. They've been the team of the offseason.
It does feel like.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
People do give other people motivational motivational gifts. If they
can get behind this and rally behind it, which speaks
to maybe the level of person that Sean Payton is.
If they can get behind this and raph behind it,
then good for them. I mean, there's really only one
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person that needs to be motivated by this all anyway,
it's Aaron Rodgers. As long as you got Aaron Rodgers
motivated with that chip on his shoulder, then you're.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Good to go.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Like, I don't give a damn what Alan Lazard has
to say about Nathaniel Hackett and how vulnerable he is.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
I could care less.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Like Lazar Lazard could rotate in and out, like the
success of this team solely lies at the feet of
Aaron Rodgers. And he can make Lazard look good. He
can make Hackett look good. He can make Salah look good.
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He can make Hard Knocks episodes look good. He can rise,
he can raise all ships, all boats, Dinghy's jet skis,
you name it. He's the rising tide. And it seems
as though that he really has used this as as motivation.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You are right there, Yeah, you're good.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
My wrists bothered me. It's a little it's a little broken,
it's it's spinal.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I think I got like, uh, soft hand, you got
soft hand lotion hands soft boy, A little soft hand
lotion boy, A little soft boy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I mean that's what they want to say that Alan Lazard.
After that, you go put some more lotion on your hands. Alan,
you don't like boy. You don't like him defending, you know,
have it as forced man, Like you late to the party.
It's like some r G three writing a book on
surviving Washington type ish, like it's you're late, You're late.
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Aaron got there first. I destroyed it.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Now now you you want to jump in like you're sloppy,
super slappy.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Yeah, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
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Speaker 2 (14:18):
So there's been some I don't know ways to handle
the fighting at training camp. You know Kevin Stefanski of
the Browns, he made him run sprints. There were multiple
fights that broke out this past weekend.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
They're in this remote area.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
It's was the Greenbrier in West Virginia. So apparently they
get all hot and bothered out there and guys are
throwing down multiple times, and Stefanski got frustrated by it
and made him run sprints afterwards. I don't know why
everybody's not as relaxed as Deshaun Watson is. I don't
get it, you know, I take it easy, hobby, Just
take it easy, you know, just you know, he seems loose,
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lay back.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Yeah, just really everything's fine, roll over.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
And then you got the Tennessee Titans, who have a
different strategy. According to the Tennessee and Mike Rabel, he
described the scuffles at practice because they had an issue
with it over the past couple of days, as dumb
bleep that hurts the team, and he pledged to discipline
any player who decides they want to fight by banishing
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them to a sand pit located in a remote corner
of the practice field to continue practicing. So you've got
one strategy, you want to fight, go hang out in
the sandpit.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Of all people, Mike Vrabel should know that. I mean,
he played for the Steelers. Come on, now, guys, get
a little chippy here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It's just uh, I mean, just feels like this is
par for the course when it comes to training camp.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Now it is. It is a bit early.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The Jets had some issues that popped up at training
camp where they had guys throwing down and there was
some some thought that maybe it was for the cameras,
that maybe guys were getting a little bit a little
bit pissy with each other because they wanted to show
something for hard knocks.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
But it just I mean, guys get a little lathered up.
They'd be ready, guys be ready for training camp, and
sometimes that ready like kind of escalates into some some
chippy moments. You saw the one play what practice was
that the linebacker slapped he slapped the lineman upside the
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head in the backfield, and then something happened. There was
an interception that was thrown, and then the lineman chased
the linebacker down and then they started started kind of
mixing it up. I forget what practice.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Travis Kelsey also got in a couple of different fights
with guys and vowed to be a better teammate afterwards.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I mean, is it about being a better teammate or
are you just like kind of just annoyed with each other.
I mean, you're just you're you're working, you're working to
get better, You're working, you're working to prepare for something,
something great, something extraordinary, and sometimes fighting in practice.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Is a part of it.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I tell people all the time, people ask why, why,
why do you fight, Like, what's your reasoning for fighting?
I said, It's very simple for me. If I come
out to practice and our level of competition was flat
and and and it was low terms of energy in
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terms of just what our focus is. I start a
fight like I had start a fight, because once you
start a fight, it escalates the the level of intensity,
It takes you into a place where the stakes have
now been been you know, raised, and and it worked
every time.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
It worked every time, like one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
In hockey they're down three four goals and they're like,
all right, somebody go start a fight, and they just
got out there and they just throw I read there
was a there was a series Penguins Flyer series back
in I want to say two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I think it was two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, and it was Maxim Talbot who went out and
fought some guy for I think it was uh Carcillo
of the Flyers. I think it was Dan Carcilo of
the Flyers and the Penguins were losing. It was a
pivotal game in the series and Max Talbot went out
there and picked a fight with this guy, got his
ass whooped, knew he was going to get his ass whooped,
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and the Penguins ended up winning the game. It completely
changed the momentum of the game because he just decided,
all right, somebody's got to do something and just went
out there and got ruffed up, took one for the.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Team, got ut.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Yeah, it was, and it was they were on the road.
So maybe there's something to that.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
No, there's one.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Hundred I'm being honest, there's one hundred something to it.
When you fight the other side and the same side
all rally like on the side that like whoever got
his ass whipped? Like they rallying, like you can't just
whoop our asses like that, like no way. And then
on the other side of it, like you whipped his ass,
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like let's whip all their asses, like let's let's handle
let's handle this business, like let's handle this little bit
of business that we got going on here.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Everybody rallies.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So why do coaches get so pissy about it?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
They don't. They really don't. They really don't.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
That's why I'm saying Mike Rabel he should be a
shame to himself or even saying it, because he played
during an era they probably fought at Ohio State. I
know they fought in Pittsburgh, So it's just that's a
that's a part of now. Now things have continued to
get a little bit more laid back, as you mentioned,
Deshaun Watson. Things have gotten laid back, like real, real
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laid back where where maybe there's not as much intensity
towards you know, things like that. There was a time
where you could tackle and take guys down to the ground.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They don't.
Speaker 4 (20:05):
They don't want you tackling and taking guys down to
the ground, like they just want you.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
To thud up.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Rabel told a story I think he was on Busting
with the Boys with Taylor Lewan and Will Compton, and
he was telling a story how when Rodney Harrison first
got to New England that it was like Kevin Falk.
I think it might have been Kevin Falk was a
running back and there was some sort of a wheel
route or something like that, and they were in pads,
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but nobody was really completely banging at that point. And
I guess Rodney Harrison hit him pretty hard, cracked him
really hard, and somebody yelled at Rodney Harrison and they
were like, you can't do that. It was like some
offensive lineman and he said, shut up, I'll do what
I want. And then it was the offensive line coach,
Dante Skarniki, I believe it was, said, you can't do that.
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We're not doing that here. And Rodney Harrison looked at
the offensive line coach like.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Shut up, old man, I'll whoop your ass too.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
And he just got there, and Rabel said he looked
over at Ted Eddy Bruce k and he was like, oh,
we got one.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Like okay, I guess that's how it's gonna go. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
To hear Rails one undefeated and to hear Rabels say,
you know you guys are gonna be spanished, like please,
he went to meeting room, was like, good job, guys,
let's keep that intensity up. What was the best fight
you saw or were a part of in training camp?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Had?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The best one was and not Michael Westbrook beating up
a teammate.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
That was the year before I got there. That was
the year before I got there.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
The best one was when Jesse Armstead and and Chad
Morton were going at it in practice like coverage wise,
like we were in like a Skelly period and something
happened and Jay was like, really kind of bothered by
what Chad had did. And next thing you know, they
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get tangled up the very next play, and you know,
I was like, oh this is you know, anytime I
got an opportunity to start a fight, that's what I did.
So when when they mixed it up, I ran up
on them and I just took I took Chad down,
so that now me and and Jesse Armstad are are
basically like just dragging Chad Chad Morton on the ground.
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His little ass is strong too, by the way, it was,
that's a strong dude. So he's he's holding his own
but we on we on top of him, giving him
the business. Then here come the offensive lineman from all
the way over somewhere else, and they come running over,
and then the rest of our linebackers came running over,
and it was about it was probably about ended up
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being probably about double digits worth for dudes that was
slamming each other and rolling around on the ground and
the dust was coming up and stuff like that. But
that was probably the best one because at that moment
it was like me and me and Jesse rushed him
like well, Jesse was tangled up with him. I actually
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rushed him and yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I do know.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Coaches get uncomfortable. Coaches do get uncomfortable with fights and
practice because you never want somebody. I remember I hit
somebody upside the head in college and I had like
this crazy ass contusion on my arm, Like I literally
had to wear like a heart, like a heart like
pad over top of this contusion that I had. And
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it was like Michigan week or something. I don't know,
but we were going and like one thing led to
another and it was Josh Mitchell. I never forget that
one either. Like I punched Josh Up's side the head.
I punched Josh Up's side of the head. My whole arm,
the inside of my forearm just started swelling and I
wouldn't stop and it just kept going and it kept
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going and it kept going. They're like, I told you
don't be fighting. Who is that? Like, Joe, you ain't
even watching our side at the ball. Get out of here.
He knew he saw he saw everything.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
By the way, I tried to find proof because we
want to make sure that we're being one hundred percent
forthcoming and accurate on this program.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Accuracy is the number one you Twitter. All right, so
I'm trying to find Russell Wilson and I'm plenty great.
Now this is this is.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
About that fight that you mentioned. So this was in
the Baltimore Sun. Now I tried to find the full
article that I couldn't, but I found the preview, and
the preview says this.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's from two.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Thousand and three, and it says after loss, Redskins show
fight and practice and it just says running back Chad
Morton and linebacker Jesse Armstead tangled twice. Linebacker LeVar Arrington
went after wide receiver Rod Gardner? No, and then is
that what it says? And then I couldn't find the
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rest of the article. So why are you going after
Remember that mean?
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Rod was?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
We're boys to this day, I don't even remember that.
Why are you going after Rod Gardner hose like that?
Say that again, Rod Gardner hose like that? Why are
you going after Gardner hose? I got what you did
because Rod had hose back then. So I thought that
you was talking about why was I going after Rod
Gardner's hose? And that's why we fought? But and that
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could very well have been what it was. I mean,
two thousand and one two thousand, two thousand, that's safe,
like two thousand and three, First Party two that season
two thousand and three, I might have gone after some
of his hoes.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I'm just saying. I mean that could have been why
we was locking it up.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I mean that did I mean that those politics played
out on the field sometimes.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I mean, yeah, a little Dann wouldn't run a place
like that. You know, a little Dandy Snyder wouldn't run
like that. Come on, please, yeah what you talk about?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
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and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,
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Speaker 3 (26:20):
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Speaker 7 (26:22):
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Speaker 2 (26:52):
Right now, let's turn it over to John palmerro See.
He is an MLB insider for Fox Sports Radio. You
see him on MLB Network JPM. We were just talking
like there's really nothing you can't do, Like we remember
when you popped on one time and just decided, oh yeah,
look what I got in my back pocket and you
spoke fluid Italian on the air. Is there anything you
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can't do, John Palm Morosi, Well, there's a lot that.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I can do. Trust me, Jonas and LeVar. I'm in
a household of five. I am, by far, the the
least talented and least interesting person in my own house.
I promise you that I am as I'm frequently reminded
by my three amazing daughters. Like I'm trying to be cool, guys,
I'm really trying. I'm trying to be able to sing
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along to kill the swift songs with them. But I'm
just I'm doing the best that I can.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Well, you can get him on Twitter at John Morosi
if you'd like to challenge him on some of that.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
No one, okay, Jonathan LeVar, No One, today, trust me
their name Rosie. We want baseball info. No one is
asking for me to sing be Dazzled or any of
the great They're all great thoughts, but no one really
can or Bejeweled, right, Bejewel, that's right. No one can
can expect me to sing swift with any with any
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degree of affluency there.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
So I want to ask you, I just want to
go back, because we're obviously going to get to some
of the names that are going to potentially be on
the move later on today. Is the trade deadline is
later on this evening, But I want to go back.
And there was all this conversation about sho he Otani
and what's going to happen. Is he going to be
on the move, And it appears that no, you know,
the Angels are going to sit tight. They've they've added
pieces around him, and they're going to try and really
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go for it this year. What was the reasoning behind
that from your understanding, Did they get any sort of
an indication that he was planning on being their long
term or is this just a let's go for it
and we'll deal with this after the year.
Speaker 5 (28:52):
It's the latter, I believe, Jonas I don't think there's
been any reassurance from show as Camp at all about
what what lies beyond the end of this twenty twenty
three Major League season. I think a couple of things
stood out. Number One, the Angels realize that their only
chance to sign him is by making the playoffs and
by proving to him that he can win in Anaheim.
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I think that the Dodgers obviously are going to have
a really compelling case. The Dodgers, they'll be able to
tell him we've done nothing but win the last ten years.
You can stay in southern California and play with Freddie
Freeman and Mookie Betts and Clayton Kershaw and make that
point to him. But so I still think the Dodgers
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have an excellent chance to sign him this offseason. But
this is not about that from the Angel perspective as
much as it is they've got to do the best
they can to get the most out of the time
they've got with him, and they've I think done a
very good job at this deadline, and that credit Berry Manazi,
and I credit ownership in Artie Moreno for investing in
the team. They just they had an injury with Taylor
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Wood they went out there and got rend chick at
CJ Cron. They've already added Lucas Gilioto and Ranaldo Lopez.
They've done a really good job of strengthening their chances
at least for the for the wild Card. They won
a big game in Atlanta last night, So I admire that.
I mean, at the end of the day, they're often
we talk at this time of year about managing your assets,
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and that's great, and that's what gms are supposed to do,
but let's not forget what this is. This is still
a show business. You're asking people to spend their hard
and Marney to watch your team play and stream your
treat your team's games and do all those things that
you ask your fans to do. And you've got the
most marketable star in North American sports right now. Why
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why do you trade them? If you still have a
chance And they played well enough this month of our
and Jonas and they basically said we can. We can
still make them run of this thing. And I credit
the Angels for doing it. There there there are some
fans that say, well, they should have traded them when
they had the chance. I'm not so sure. I think
that your fans want to see him play. You've got
a chance to get sixty home runs, so there's a
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lot of value there.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
JP.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I'm glad you stayed at the whole fans paying to
see a product. I was with a buddy of mine
last week and he's a former pro player and has coached,
and we were talking and he was just talking about
the differences in how the league has evolved from your perspective,
what what are these gms and what are these these organizations?
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What are they looking for when trying to trade. I mean,
obviously you can never have enough pitchers on your staff.
I get that, But are you looking for guys that
can get on base? Are you looking for big hitters?
Are you looking for defense?
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Like?
Speaker 4 (31:39):
What is like the most important you know, part of
this trade deadline? And what these these organizations are looking
for de Olivar.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
It's a great question. I think. One thing that I
know in talking to Scott Harris, who's the Tigers president
of baseball operations. He's just got the job last year.
His guiding principle since taking the job has been dominating
the strike zone. And that is in two ways. That
is on the pitching side, you got to have guys
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that fill up the strike zone with quality stuff and
can grow repeatable strikes and know how to get major
league hitters out with quality stuff in the zone, because
you might be able to get an a ball guy
to chase, but you know Mike Trout is not going
to chase, and Otani is not going to chase, So
how do you get them out in the zone. And
on the pitching side, on the hitting side, it's a
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matter of again not chasing. It's you look for the
for the exact hitting perspective on that, which is understanding
how to make good swing decisions, having a good swing
that gets your bat in in the hitting zone as
long as possible. Those are the things that you need.
And and so I think that the the overall idea
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for teams right now is to define pitchers who fill
up the zone and hitters who understand how to dominate
the zone. And that that to me is one of
the really interesting parts about how you evaluate a young
player and how you see something at the minor league
level and translated that even to the major league level.
It was interesting yesterday on the on our IP Network broadcast,
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Tom Berducci made the point that teams now are in
terms of their ability to try to figure out if
their pictures are tipping pitches, that they even can use
AI to try to evaluate a pitcher's delivery, and if
they're becoming too predictable. So I mean, we're like next
level on this analysis nowadays, stuff that I could even
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begin to understand. But I the one, the one trade
I'll mention really quickly. Last night, the Guardians traded the
pitcher Aaron Savali to Tampa and some have criticized, well,
are they selling right now? They're still in a playoff
contending spot. But the guy they got back, Kyle Manzardo,
is is going to be their first basement of the future,
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including potentially as early as next year and maybe easy
even ready right now. And so if you're if you're
making a trade like that, I pushed back on the
notion that that was a buy and sell trade, that
was a need for need trade, that was that was
what we call a good old fashioned baseball trade, where
I've got a surplus of this and I need that,
so let's do let's make this trade. And that's what
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I saw there from Cleveland and Tampa, and I hope
we see more trades like that today because they end
up being a lot of fun for baseball conversation.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
How about John Paul Morosi is joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. He is our MLB insider. You can
also see him on MLB Network at John Morosi on Twitter.
As we get you sat for the trade deadline? How
bad are things going to get for either the Mets
or the Yankees or both over the next few hours here.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
Well, let's put it this way. Jason Smith hosts the
Late night Show. He's probably still awake worried right now
about about the state of his bets. Right, That's what
I would say about how Jason's feeling in all Mets fans.
I mean, let's just take this one sentence in isolation
and reflect on it for a second. They spent thirty
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six million dollars to make a future Hall of Fame
pitcher and Max Surez or go away. Think about that. Wow,
They spent thirty six million dollars at then Max out
the door, which is just it's rather staggering. Now they
got back a prospect, the younger brother of Ronald Lecunya,
Junior Luisanjlacuna, which is also interesting, but so the Mets.
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And here's where I'll credit them for this, which might
sound a little awkward, but I'll make the point. They
they went all in last offseason. They've been all in
ever since Steve Cohen took over, and this year was
a mistake. They made some mistakes this year. It takes
a lot of guts as an owner to say, you
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know what, this didn't work out, and I'm going to
do that deal. It send thirty six million dollars with
a future Hall of Famer because I've got a reboot here.
I needed to change things up, as opposed to just
basically saying, well, we've got no choice, we've got to
run it back next year. I mean, it's it's a
luxury to be able to send away that amount of
money with a future Hall of Famer. It's and it's
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and it's something that would be without president if they
did that with another future Hall of Famer in justin
Verlanders some time today, which by the way, they might do.
So they're they're at least saying we've lost one season
of bad decisions and we're not going to lose two.
And that takes a lot of guts, it really does.
And I think that there, they are still a very
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far distance away from being as good as the Braves.
The Braves is the class of that division. And oh,
by the way, the Mets haven't signed pee Alnzo yet,
so when are you going to do that? So there's
a lot they still have to do that. The Yankees
are in a quandary of a different sense. I mean
that they are in year one of Carlos Rodan, who
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as we speak today has won one game for the Yankees.
Now he's injured for a lot of the year. But
still when we ask why are the Yankees not in
good shape? They spent almost as you know, it's one
of the largest pitching contracts in the history of the
New York Yankees, and they've gotten one win to show
for it as of August one. That is a significant
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issue for them to overcome. And and Aaron Judge, the
reliance on Aaron, I just don't see it, guys, how
they're going to make themselves into a playoff team And
this day, there's just they don't have the assets to
move out and the current cast in in house is
just not good enough in my opinion, to make to
make the playoffs. J P.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
How how is it that teams can get so far
away from being what they were to win World Series.
Like I'm I'm from Pittsburgh, so I'm a Pirates fan childhood,
but obviously lived in DC. A DC guy so was
there when they brought the National was in and and
and you know, created the franchise and have been obviously
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a staff at fan staff ass fan for for since
they've been there. They're they're bad, They're they're not They're
not good at all. But not too long ago, they were,
you know, fighting to get World Series then finally eventually
get a World Series. And I know that there's always
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discussions about how, you know, GMS. I know Rizzo was
the GM and and people like will say, well, they'll
mortgage the entire future just to be able to say
they got that one World Series.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I mean, how does that all work?
Speaker 4 (38:38):
How do you go from being a top, you know,
top of the class type of organization and team to
just being a seller dweller with with everything that's going on.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Yeah, it's a great question, Labar, because the Nationals, You're right,
that was only that was only four years ago. It's
remarkable to think that they won the World Series four
years ago. And now the whole lineup has changed, has
changed over basically a couple of things have happened there.
Number one, Strasburg hasn't been able to pitch. That's a
big one. I mean, if they signed them to a
pretty big contract and he's never really been able to pitch,
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actually barely pitched since that World Series four years ago.
Wan Soto they couldn't science. They traded him. Now Sodo
brought back. And this is where I'm a big believer.
If you're a seller, sell lean into it, don't go halfway.
And so when they had Soda last year on the market,
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they found a team in the Padres that will make
a move like that, And they got Mackenzie Gore, they
got CJ. Abrams, they got Robert Hassel, they got James Wood.
They did a really good jobs of bringing a lot
of players. And so they I think correctly assessed LeVar
that the Braves right now are so good and your
divisions and you're either able to compete with them right
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now or if you really can't, this is not a
bad time, especially if you've won the World Series. To
to read to a little bit too. And obviously their
team has been up for sale for a while. That's
that's another thing to think about. So there's there's a
lot of different dynamics there with that team. But I
like their core. I think they're going to be a
good team in a couple of years, not right now,
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probably not even next year. But the deals they've made
have been very, very wise. Right now, the Braves are
the class of the sport. And one thing I love
about about Atlanta And I was talking about this last
night with my friend Jeff Francour, who's on the Braves broadcast.
Their guys play every day and and as as an athlete,
I'm sure you can respect that var these guys. The
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Braves have a lot of players that do not take
days off. They're in the lineup every single day and
and that's how they've built their team, and it sets
a really great standard around what they do, how they
report to work every day. Because they've got Olsen, they've
got Riley that they lose, Dan's responsive, but Arcia comes
in and plays. They've got they've got a Kunyu who's
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probably the best player in baseball right now, purely offensively.
So they got a good team. It's been a good
time for the Nationals. To kind of regroup, and I
think they'll come back strong here in a couple of years, all.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Right, John Paul Morose, Yeah, I know it's a busy
day for you. Before we let you go, we got
about you know, ninety seconds. You mentioned justin Verlander. What
are the other big names you expect to be on
the move and teams that are interested in those names?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Sure, so I think Verlander, you know, stay tuned there
on the Orioles, but more importantly probably the Astros and
the Dodgers. The Tigers have a couple pitchers to move,
Michael Lorenzen and Eduardo Rodriguez. The Mariners have all of
a sudden become sellers in the last forty eight hours.
The Ascar Hernandez could be on the move and the
Blue Jays might be one team interested in reacquiring him.
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And I think the big news last night was the
Boba Schett injury in Toronto. We don't know how serious
it is right now, but they are likely in the
market from getting if not a shortstop, maybe they would
move to some of their existing personnel around and add
a bat externally and again to the Oscar and end
is one possibility to watch there. So that's a quick,
quick look at some of the more interesting sellers. I
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do think that the Chicago White Sox so that they
still have some moves to make Tim Anderson as a
possibility Aaron Bummer. They've they've got some more more players
to move. It's been a busy week already, and my friends,
it's going to get even busier on my favorite day
of the entire year. I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Damn right.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
He is John Paul Morose.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
He's an MLB insider for Fox Sports Radio and MLB Network.
He'd be very busy all day long with all the latest,
and you can get him on Twitter at John Rose
se JP. We appreciate it. It's great catching up with you.
We'll talk Michigan football. Here is the season, Get TV.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
Yeah, I can't wait. Jones and LeVar, It's gonna be
a lot of fun. I look honestly the fall. One
of my favorite reasons for the season is I get
a chance to have my baseball playoff talks with you
guys and wind it around to Penn State and Michigan
by the day.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
I love talking that way.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Michigan is going to be good this year. Yeah they are,
But so are we too, JP or the best we're
doing there.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
I'm going to stay house of that game. I'm making
plans right now. I don't have all the details, but
I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
I may see you there.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
All right, Well we'll have to link up, all right,
we LeVar Allen's on me is love it. There we go,
the great John palm Rosi with us here on Fox
Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington grooving questions and to be told,
he had a great question. That was nice, very professional
of you, LeVar.
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