August 2, 2023 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Nathaniel Hackett calls out Sean Payton for violating the coaches code. Stories From the Road, Brady flies next to a moaning cat. Plus, the weekly visit from The Old P, Petros Papadakis, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LeVar arrings and rating Wind and Jonas Knox
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
You used to use read Rainbow. Didn't you use your Rainbow?
What do you mean when you grew up at Rainbow?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
So?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, all your reads, man, you crush your reads. Butterfly
in the sky.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Yeah, I can fly twice as high. Just take a look.
It's in a book. It's coop Rainbow. I can do anything.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
But is that that's LeVar Burt? Ye gonna say I'm
named after? Yeah. So now were your parents watching reading
Rainbow and they said Roots?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
That's where I am kent this. Hold on a second,
Toby Kunta, No, you're Toby. Let me get this strange.
So he did Roots and reading Rainbow?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, and star Trek. That's some range and star Trek. Yeah,
he was Gordy that's some range. There isn't that some range?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He was?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's in space. He was space traveling. He's book traveling. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
He's still major, majorly into uh doing what he needs
to do in terms of education and reading. He goes
all over the world, all over the country. How about
that reads books? Still reads books? Did you grow intelligent.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You grew up on reading rainbow of course? Yeah, Pam,
how about it?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Didn't everyone?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Bam?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How about that? I mean I don't know, not really me.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Can you read?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
He just did?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
He just did a hell of a I mean, his
his opening read was. That's that's why I asked that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I seem to be corrected.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I'm not trying to correct anybody out of you know,
to be insulting here. But I don't look at ty
rack as a read I look at as a way
of life.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
How does how does reading rainbow like? How exactly is
their little phrase?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What's the phrase? Yeah? What is it?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like? I guess it's a jingle?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, we were just.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
We were just saying it.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I can't do anything. Take a look at a book
and reading. Take a look in a book at one too,
depending on the book. I mean, if it's Playboy, it's
at I guess it is. And you don't need to
read and you don't you don't need to be able
to read that periodical.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, call it the picture book.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it's a picture book, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Fun little picture books were fun because it'd only be
like three or four words. It would be like, look
at the dog and there's a dog and then you
show yeah, yeah, just take a look.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
It's enough book.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's reading Rainbow.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
She got pop Yeah anyway, Yeah, place to grow reading Rainbow.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It should be open.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Anything. I see my mom, Hey, my mom used.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
To make me believe I used to watch that.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
She's like, there's your night after him reading Rainbow.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah, necesarily in the morning too.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Come on, she could have been a boy band and
LaVar would have been lead singer and.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We go around the world singing and reading Rainbow.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Jonas you would have been in there too, you would
have had your Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
But I would have gotten like one or two lines
in and then just taking the checks and run with
it for the rest of my career.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So and so.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
You can you can play instruments, right, Like I can't
play anything.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Have like a tambourine or something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Got a musical talent like your backup singer slash like
a tambourine.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean you don't.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
You don't really need to know how to play anything.
I mean, Elvis wasn't really playing a guitar. It was
like a prop. So you know, it's like he's like
he was at a kid's birthday party. He was playing
a rock star, so you just, uh, you know, you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Really need to do everything.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Not really, it's more of a prop.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I don't even think it was plugged in, to be
honest with you. It's like a music video. The instruments
aren't even playing.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Cardi b Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, although upon further detail, apparently people were coaxed into
throwing stuff at her on stage, which is.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, what happened see not upon further review, they
were telling the people in the crowd to cool her
down because it was so hot.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Who's they? Whoever?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
The DD was, Yeah, yeah, why.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Would he think though, that's something that anyone would want.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, because it was hot as hell, and I guess
he was like, you know, get her cooler off. And
because she did write a song you know called what
you know, they're just an accro.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, it's just uh so.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
This song is a really easy to read on a yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
You know, so that's definitely not part of reading Rainbow.
That song that was definitely left out. That was the
B sides version of that album.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Can't you say the acronym the acronym is not you
can say the acronym is wop? Wow, wop, take that
s out. It's not WASP, it's not white Anglo Saxon Protestant.
It actually means something different. Yeah, sure does.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Yeah, yeah, all right, well let's try and clean up
the mess.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Let's clean it up, you know, because you can throw
a microphone at it.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
By the way, Yeah, in this case, in this case,
the P stands for paid.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
That would be Sean Payton, all right, in this acronym,
because Sean Payton, as we all recall, about a week ago,
less than a week ago, decided to air out Nathaniel
Hackett and the entire Broncos organization from a year before.
You know, still members of that Broncos organization are there
in Denver now that Sean Payton is there. He claimed
(06:20):
he regretted it forty minutes afterwards. Yet he didn't call
Jared Bell to have the article taken down or have
him not run with the article.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He just let it fly.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
So Nathaniel Hackett spoke for the first time publicly about
the whole situation yesterday at Jets' training camp. So let's
hear from the former Broncos head coach now Jets offensive
coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 9 (06:43):
I've been involved in this business my whole life, and
as a coach, you know, as a coach's kid. You know,
we live in a glasshouse. We know that we all
live in different rooms. We all got a key for it.
And it's one of those things that there's a code,
there's a way things are done. It's frustrating and it sucks,
but we're all susceptible to it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
They're things that you do.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Mistakes you make, and it costs you time on the field,
cost you your job, all those things, and I own
all that stuff. It's unfortunate that that had to happen,
that the comments that were made, but.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Hey, they did. I'll tell you can.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Always look at that silver lining and man, this organization,
these players, the coaches, Salah, everybody has been unbelievable. I
think that's something that is just awesome and it's brought
our team together.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He can say publicly that he would call to apologize,
has no we.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Can the call never I've never met the guy, so
let's let's get home from it.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That was last week. I think that's something.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
That is just awesome and it's brought our team together.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So there's publicly that he would call to apologize. Has
he we cance the call? Never. I've never met the guy,
So let's get home from it. That was last week.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, well, but you just responded to it.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
And also he's not gonna hear from him because Sean
Payton isn't sorry anything he said like, he said what
he meant. He said what he meant like if he didn't,
he would have told Jared Bell again did not post it.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Let me just say this though about Nathaniel Hackett. I
feel like he's been the adult in the room with
the way he's handled it. And that's one thing, like,
regardless of what you want to say about how things
went in Denver last year, he always handled it with
class and dignity. You know, he he learned a lot
of lessons, I think as a first time head coach.
But you have to, like, at least from the human
(08:28):
side of it, admit that he didn't really act, you know,
immature or respond in an immature way in a very
adult manner. Kind of portrayed the fact that I felt
like he kind of violated a coach's code. And I
feel like there's a lot of coaches out there who
would agree with that. And look, there there's somebody to
be said for that, like, like, say whatever you want
(08:49):
again about him as a head coach, how things went.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
There's a reason why Rogers loves him.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
You know, there's a reason why he got a job
right away as in oc in New York as opposed
to out on the sidelines right now. You know, people
respect him, People understand he's a better coach than how
things went last year. And even though it looked like
the perfect storm of a disaster with how everything went,
there's more to that story.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
I think a lot of people who you know, were
around that organization last year, you know, they would say
there's a lot of blame to be spread around. And
you know, the most interesting thing is going to be
the quarterback position. And if Sean Payton can get Russell
Wilson to be the guy we saw in Seattle and
play the way you know, we think he's capable of
(09:35):
within an offense that's maybe not the offense that Russell
Wilson's pushing for. Maybe it's the offense that he doesn't
want but his best for him, if that makes sense,
Because that was one of the narratives that kind of
came out from Denver last year was there was one
pushing one person pushing for an offense that really didn't
suit his strengths, yet it's what he thought.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He is or was as a quarterback, and it was
a disaster.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
And even though Nathaniel Hackett was a part of it,
he wasn't necessarily the person who was pushed for. He
was just trying to help support his player to be
the best player he thought he could be, and in
doing so, ultimate it costic for their jobs.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I think Sean Payton put it out there because he
wants to be able to give himself some added runway.
It's one thing to think that Russ is the guy,
it's another thing to know he's the guy. Right, So
coming into this scenario, he decided to sacrifice Nathaniel Hackett,
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the ownership of the team, other players. He decided to
sacrifice all of them to try and paint a picture
that says that Sean Payton can come in and fix
this with Russell Wilson. Now he puts some dirt on
Russell Wilson's hands, so there's enough dirt on his hands
(11:00):
from Sean Payton's statement to say that that dirt was
dirty enough where we probably need to go in a
different direction. But we're going in a different direction after
I gave it an opportunity to see if I, the
true coach, that is a quarterback whisperer, can get the
most out of Russell Wilson. And I think that that's
(11:26):
all it came down to is he basically said this
was a dumpster fire. I'm taking over a dumpster fire.
If I do well in year one, that's a testament
to how good I am and how good my coaching
staff is. If we don't do well in year one,
I get to get out of it because I get
to say Nathaniel Hackett sucked as a coach, the organization
(11:47):
sucked in their decision making, and I have to continue
to fix this. I think that's ultimately what it comes
down to. Sean Payton has shown before that he's about
self preservation. So the whole coach code thing I think
is out the door with someone like him, and like
Nathaniel Hackett said, I never met the man. He doesn't
even know them. They don't even know each other. So
(12:08):
whether it's coaching code that he violated or not, I
don't think Sean Payne even gives a damn that he
violated any type of code. He's looking out for Sean
Payton at this point.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I mean, it's gonna be uh, it's just the whole
presentation of Hard Knocks. I'm curious to see how they
go about it, because you know, they're looking for anything
they can to try and spice that series up. And
I feel like they're really going to lean into this one,
much like we all have. I feel like they're going
to lean into this one, and this is going to
be presented in a certain way.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's connected to their biggest storyline, right Yeah, I mean
it's connected to Aaron Rodgers. So why wouldn't you lean
into that? See what comes of it. I mean, don't
see how much you can lean on it though, because
it's not and it's not there. You're not seeing it
play out there for the camera other than just reactions.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Who has the better season Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Aaron Rodgers, Oh geez, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Because I actually think Russell Wilson is going to be
a lot better, just because it's impossible. He's got Sean
Payton well, and also, I mean, you know, he doesn't
say it's not better than what he was last year.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He say, who's going to have the better season, I'll
say Rogers.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
But I do think Wilson is going to play well,
and I think Denver is going to be a good team.
I think Denver is going to be a playoff team.
But yeah, okay, but we'll russ but but yeah, I
think they were playing.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
When you say Denver will be a better team, first
of all, they're in a super tough division.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well yeah, and hold on for a second. So they
get so they're one of seven teams. Who's the other six?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
I would say, if we're going obviously the Chiefs, I
would say the Bills, I would say the Ravens, the Bengals, Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Where we at right now? Five?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Five?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
All right?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So then I'll go Miami. Wow, yeah, question mark teams?
You throw San Diego.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I mean, at least so the Chargers once again don't
make it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Uh yeah, well I don't know, jeez, why do you
do this to me?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Well, I'm just saying, like when you said the Denver
Brogles are a playoff team, I'm thinking, well, all right,
I guess Herbert his contract and everything means like that's
a roster that is a playoff roster?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Am I wrong in that assessment? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I know, I think they are, like they are.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Loaded, don't. I don't get it, Like, I'm not sure
how I mean.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I think after this year, if they don't, You've really
got some great concerns because I think there's a lot
of other coaches that are out there that are, like,
I want that job, because that quarterback, that roster that's
a that should be a playoff team doesn't make sense.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
What would you say if I were to ask you
right now the odds on Denver to make the playoffs
on DraftKings, what would you say they are?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
What kind of money?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I would say they are ten to one.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Really to make a who the Broncos? Yeah, the Broncos.
I'd go higher than that. Longer odds plus one eighty
so one hundred bucks wins you want eighty on Denver
to go to the playoffs. So I think the Steelers
will have a bounce back year this year.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Yah, hadn't even mentioned Cleveland and Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
They're just so relaxed so much, We're going to have
to table that conversation.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, there is well done. There is well done.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That was the one the show We're going to have
the massage that topic a little bit more later.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Here's a towel. You did a hell of a job today.
Helevant job at the hour.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
You know, I'm already regretting my Broncos to make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Pick.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Can we take that out of the podcast please, Now
that I'm thinking about it, keep.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
It in there, all right, keep it in Just like
our conversation about the US women's national team and what
happens if they tie?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So, oh, hey, look advance, Hey Lee, you know they're not.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Leading their group, and so I think they've got a
much harder path, which I think was the point.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And Lee's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You got to keep it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know, I didn't know Netherlands was gonna go eight
nothing on their next match.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, well cool, That's why.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
We asked these questions.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
I do I do appreciate the fact that that Carly
Lloyd's like, what are these girls doing?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Why are they why are they celebrating?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But you're not allowed to criticize them.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You can't, but you can't know.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
It wasn't be criticizing.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I was just applauding the fact that Carli Lloyd has
a former Absolute Star it's like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna hold this locker room accountable for a second.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
And she got a ton of blowback for it, like
people work, Yeah, coming after saying oh, well, you know
her comments were out of line and that's just you know,
her being She's gonna get honest for wanting to celebrate
and all. It's like sorry that she's got higher expectations
because this is supposed to be the best team in
the world and they played like crap.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
I mean well yeah, and they've dominated, you know, through
the group stage for the most part. I mean again,
I go, I go back to the very first game
vers Vietnam. The over under was set a six and
a half. Who did you think they think was scoring
all those goals? Right, It wasn't Vietnam. They were expecting
the women's team to literally blow them out like they
had in the past, or the Netherlands.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Who's there was in their group and was able to
blow out some point.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
You guys, remember the first time the Dream Team lost,
or the US men's basketball team.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Ever lost, but Dream Team never lost.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was always.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Painted as Dream Team, Dream Team Volume two, like oh,
nobody's gonna beat us and the first time they lost,
they got schewed up and spit out by everybody. This
is disgusting. Nobody cares anymore. They made drastic changes. There's
nothing wrong with being critical, I mean, but if you're.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Far ast for that, the dream team never lost. There
was iterations of the dreams, right, that wasn't really the
dream team.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, my dream team, that's for sure. Ninety two.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Oh, my dream team. They don't play basketball, No, no,
they do something else.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I don't know. That's why.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's why they're my dream team. Damn. That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
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Speaker 6 (18:30):
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Is there a problem, puffy bottom? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I mean, don't don't get me started on certain etiquette
or certain things that are allowed or shouldn't be allowed
on an airplane. All right, let me just start off
by saying this, all right, if you're going to bring
one of your pets onto an airplane, okay, you got
to be responsible for them.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
It's almost like having a child, right, when you bring
a child on airplane. And this is where, like LeVar
and Jonas, I'm sure you can relate, and especially I'm
sure like LaVar, when your kids are young, Jonas, your
son's young, My kids are young, you feel the most
responsibility for keeping them quiet, not allowing them to be
a distraction, right of course. Yeah, is that fair? I
have you guys had some bad flights before. You're like,
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these people must hate me, right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I hate it myself.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Lee was on one.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
How about Gully, my son was not the most cooperative. Yeah,
he pissed everybody off.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
And so here's the deal.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
And I love LeVar what you just said, because like,
you take responsibility right. Our oldest was so bad on
a really short connecting flight from Atlanta to Cincinnati. We're
heading for a wedding. I'm still waiting for the invitation
in the mail. But I was I was the best
man in a wedding and.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
We're heading in there.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Really weren't many options, flights delayed, all this stuff, and
she's passed her naptime. She cannot stand anymore. I've never
seen a child act like this. I thought she was possessed.
I was almost going to go to the church and
ask the priest be like, hey, man, you do like
an extracism because what just occurred for that forty five
minute flight wasn't real. And she was like like rolling
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around sobbing, crying on the ground on like the floor
of a plane, which it might be the dirtiest place
on the planet. And so afterwards I was like, you know,
she can't come to the wedding. I was like, you
need to like bathe her and like have her take
a nap. That's beside the point, because I think as
parents we all kind of get it, and for most passengers,
like either you've you've experienced it as a parent, or
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you kind of feel bad for people. Right who I
don't feel bad for are the people who bring pets
on the plane that are not responsible for them. I
had a guy sitting literally a row behind me, like
diagonally across.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
He brought on a cat to the plane.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, now a cat.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Now I will start by saying this Like, I'm not
here to disparage anyone who's a cat person, not a
dog person. I happen to be a dog.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Person, Okay, I would say probably all of us on
the show are dog people.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
That's just my guess.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Yeah, this guy was a cat guy, Okay, and whatever
stereotype you know, you want to say, like you picture
in your head, he.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Looked like a cat guy. All right, I'll just I'll
put it that way.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
This thing for the two hour plus flight, from the
time he sat down to the time it landed, moaned
and meow the entire time. Like I sort of got
I almost asked the flight attendant. I'm like, is this
animal abuse? Like, let the thing out on the plane.
I know there could be people with allergies. They would
probably rather have a bunch of hives breakout or have
(21:48):
an allergic reaction, have someone stabbed them with an EpiPen,
then deal with that sound of this cat.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Oh, like the whole time, NonStop.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
At one point point he got up to like walk
it around like it was a crying baby. He was
literally like shaking it, like walking up and down the aisles.
So everyone can get it right, Like everyone's gonna listen
to this this cat who just can't cannot be in
this little cage any longer. I was like, for something
that's like, doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
It was the most annoying thing I've heard on a
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flight in a long time.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I personally, I will never buy a pair of headphones
that aren't noise canceling headphones.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Bro I had in noise canceling headphone still here to
get it's like a different frequency.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I would have gotten out of my seat and I'd
have been like, ma'am, sir, can you please shut that
freaking cat up?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Please listen for the love of God.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You know, I thought you were going with this, not
not to step away, you Jones, but where I thought
you were going, because I just had a flight home
from Vegas the other day the other day and there
was a dog on the no worries, we sit down.
The dog started crawling over the feet, like, look, you
(23:09):
got your dog. It's a little dog. You got your dog.
Hold your freaking dog. Don't let your dog just walk
all of Don't let your dog just walk all over
somebody that doesn't know you or your.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Dog, like like you would.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I just don't understand is why are you just allowing
your dog to just walk freely? Like dog walked across
the aisle, walked up on me. Like everybody is an
animal lovers. Everybody don't love animals like I happen to
be okay with dogs and animals. But what I'm saying,
but what I'm not okay with I don't care. We're
not even le I don't care anywhere. Don't just don't
(23:47):
don't be not like, don't pay attention like you said
to your your animal.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Here's what we know.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Uh, we don't love your animal as much as you do.
That well that's fair, and so don't be bringing that
thing up around and and causing a ruckus or causing
you know whatever to try. I was just I'm thinking
to myself, there's no way, because when we first sat
down on the plane, it started and I'm like, someone's
got to say something.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
To this guy. And I kind of kept looking back
and I'm like.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Is that that dude right there by the way who's
sitting there doing nothing like at least look a little
apologetic about creating all this noise, And like people keep
looking around like are you gonna do something?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I can help you. I got some right, You're gonna
put that right in his mouth. That cat go right
to sleep.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I'm convinced that cats are the reason God created coyotes.
Oh wow, I'm telling you. You want me to take
care of that problem, you know, but I got something
for you.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
That was that was the one issue is there wasn't
a pet coyote on the plane.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Have going on play this game.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, Mike cost you.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
You might tear through like a three point four ounce
bottle of col but you know what, he's going to
get to that cat. He will get to that cat.
Not a problem whatsoever. I can't cats bug the hell
out of me.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Well, And that's the thing is, like I was like,
was this worse than a crying baby? And I thought
to myself, probably because I would feel bad for the
crying baby and the parents, I didn't feel bad for
this cat. I'm like, you know, he's got kind of
a luxurious bag he's traveling in. This guy was wearing
a fanny pack. I'm sure with the different treats and
oh dude, trust me, this guy, I just you know,
(25:31):
I feel for him.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
He's he's that's that cat. That's all he's got.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
When that cat does, it's over for him. He's going
with the catro that's all.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah, he's probably going to accumulate more cats.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
You'll know that cat died because you walk into that
guy's apartment and it says Brooks was here carved out
over the top of his living room. That's how that's
going to go. I'm just saying, like, that's it's over
for that.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
We were close. You just hop skipped them jump line.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Why not that noise can out do noise canceling headphones?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That should be a law. You know what it was
you should have broke. That's a law. You should have
to go to jail.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
They should take that person and its cat to the jail,
put him in uh in jail, and put the cat
in into the uh into the what what's it called
where they take them.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
There you go, just like that, there you go.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
I honestly felt like it was inhumane. I'm like, am
I gonna go Ontamo Bay right now?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
What's like? What is that? It was? That was the thing? Is? What?
What's that? My headphones on? Like I could hear it
through and I'm like, is that the cat still?
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Like like, have they just not figured out in the
noise canceling headphones how to get that frequency out?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Was it a good looking fad ass cat.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, it didn't look like Garfield.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Didn't look like any of the boss cats you see
out there.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
It sounds like it was just a big old lazy asque.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
No it was. It wasn't even like impressive.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
You know, it would be one thing if it was
close to like it was a big cas like never
like a bobcat.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm like, all right, that thing might mess me up.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I mean, that king gets out, that thing is going
to take whatever they were serving on that plane and
be like, yeah, this is mine and you may find
your own.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Maybe it wasn't just a pet. Maybe it was also
a transport vehicle. Maybe the cat had some narcotics.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
In it had cocaine.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
No, No, it was like a tiny little just you
just you, I mean, it's just I mean, I said
everything about the owner, that's all said.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I can't I can't wait to get the side text
of what he really means about that owner right now,
Please send it.
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host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can
hear on the Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports.
He's also a Fox College football analyst, Pee, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
To you, Hello to everybody, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
How you feeling? Petros?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Did I kick Brady off the air?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
He's there, Yeah, okay, okay, he was here.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, No, I just didn't hear anything.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh, you can hear me now?
Speaker 10 (28:52):
Yeah, I got you now, Okay, Now, it's hard to
connect everybody, you know at five in the morning.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
My fingers are a little low.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Sorry, it happens.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Hey, Petro's with Arizona leaving the PAC twelve. Oh no,
I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Are they leaving? What happened? Did that happen?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think it's pretty much official. They're discussing it. It's expected.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
I'm in pretty close contact with some pretty high ups
over there in the dirty t in Tucson, and I
did not wake up to that news, although I do
expect it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So what's that? Does that disappoint you or you numb
to the whole thing at this point? Disappoint me?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I mean you grew up on Pack ten PAC twelve four.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Well, I mean we talked about last week.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
We talked about what Brady and I were at the
PAC twelve Championship in twenty eighteen working. Yeah, And the
whole narrative was just wait till twenty twenty three. Our
deal is going to be amazing. You're gonna love what
we do in twenty twenty three. And that was five
years ago and it's twenty twenty three and se and
(30:01):
UCLA are gone, and Colorado is gone, and all these
other teams are right on the brink and it's over,
and it's hard to imagine the league going forward with
nine teams. You know, adding San Diego State doesn't solve
your problems. But they could have done that in June
(30:22):
and had more teams and not been on the brink
of absolute decimation. But you know why they didn't add
San Diego State back in June because of Stanford and
cal and the academic a right, we can't possibly out
of state school at all. It's like, you guys, you
guys are dying, like you guys are literally falling apart.
(30:44):
One of the great leagues in the history of college sports,
in my very humble opinion, is going away. It was
a perfect league and had all these great travel partners
with the two Washingtons, the two Arizonas, the two Organs,
et cetera. And they just it didn't have to be
this way. We keep talking about it. All they had
(31:05):
to do was partner with a network. But even when
George Klayavkov, this guy took over and almost right away
he lost USC and Ucla. But the PAC twelve never
should have had their hub in the Bay Area. They
never should have acted like, oh, Silicon Valley. It's like
(31:26):
those to football fans though, aren't they sure? Yeah, go
to Los Angeles. Stanford doesn't even want a fan base
and Cal has had a love hate relationship with their
football program forever. I mean, go to LA ask the
LA schools what they need?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
How do you stay in here?
Speaker 10 (31:45):
And the fact that the idiot ad that was at
USC st Pat well, Pat Hayden, I said, which one, Yeah,
the one that was there when the TV deal was done,
because the idiot Larry's well, yeah, you got Lynn Swann
is inept attooed and it's just Mike Bone, the the
Bone Arena, the old you guys don't even know.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
This guy, right Bone.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
But I tell you, you know, would you rather have
the Stanford people? I mean, it's just it's been awful
for a long time. But what they needed to do
was go to the LA schools and say what do
you need? How do we help you? How do we
keep you? And twelve years ago, I mean USC just
(32:37):
took the same deal as Oregon State took and they
and there was no out, there was no negotiation, and
three or four years in you saw that the PAC
twelve network, not partnered with an actual place that has distribution,
was failing, didn't even have distribution in their own footprint.
I mean, it's been a it's it's almost been like
(32:58):
a it's it's almost been like a book about how
not to f things up.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
It's worse than that, it's too obvious.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean, it will it will be a case study.
Like it will literally be a case study.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
I don't know if it's on you know, poor leadership
decision making, however you go about phrasing it.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I have no doubt.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
And probably Stanford might even write the case study themselves,
but it will be.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
A case study.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
Stanford's a huge problem in this. You know, Stanford and
the university presidents are really to blame because they needed
to take extremely judicious action, like early into this, knowing
that they had brought in the wrong guy, old limousine
(33:44):
Larry Scott, and what they were doing was going and
how do you get that next give wrong direction because
he would take a limousine to go two blocks.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh my god, you know, And it's funny.
Speaker 10 (33:53):
The original PAC twelve commissioner or ten when I was
first working and was there forever.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
He was like a dinosaur.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
Tom Hanson was like he looked like a pe teacher
in like a fifties movie. He was like a guy
with a flat top and he was like a really
kindly old man. He had like a Bill Snyder vibe
and you need did you have a whistle?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
No kick me? And the Jimmy no.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
U.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
He he was the kind of guy who would take
like like he would get his brother in law to
pick him up if he was going to Phoenix, so
he didn't take a cab and charge the network. So
they went from that guy to a guy that takes,
you know, a limousine to go a block and eats
(34:43):
Petrocian caviar for breakfast. And you know, I mean it
was like you know when you hire a player's coach
and he fails, so the next guy you get as
a disciplinarian, right, and like they really went the other way,
and it was a terrible, terrible decision, and it in
West Coast football as we know it because it really
was a hell of a conference and it didn't have
(35:05):
to happen.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And now it's all getting poached away.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
And yeah, I think Arizona is the next Domino to fall,
but I didn't hear that it was a done deal yet, Jonah,
I ast.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
You this, how much of the concern over CTE and
football played a role in the West Coast because that
was something that like I remember early on, like initially
look as a player, right because all stuff's coming out
while you're playing, and you're like, oh, dude, okay, like
let's let's look into this. And the more I looked
into it, the more I was like, yeah, there's cos
(35:37):
for concern. However, there's cost for a concern if you
played women's soccer in high school, right, like the amount
of concussions from headers and the constant you know, heading
of the of a soccer ball, Like there's cos for
concern there. Like if you were going to start and say, well,
there's cos for concern with football ct you kind of
have to look at every sport where there could be
(35:57):
any sort.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Of contact of the head.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
But it felt like there was more of an impact
maybe on the West Coast as far as younger and
then how that impacted football and maybe.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
A grassroots roots edge. Did you see or feel any
of that?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Not in La No, I mean and not not in
La Not.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
I don't think Arizona or you know, the football powers
are still the football powers that be no matter where
you live. But I do think it's a real thing
at Stanford, Brady and I think I think that that.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Stanford the whole. How would they describe the problem if
you were talking for someone.
Speaker 10 (36:39):
You know, I was once up at Stanford camp and
they all had computer chips like like they all you know,
like one of those diabetes things you know that people
have on the back of their arm. Uh. They all
had those on their heads and they and their heads
were being monitored what by by some research firm on
(37:00):
campus And pretty interesting, right, I mean, And that was
a while back, you know, I mean that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Was seven or eight years ago at least.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Was that the start of AI?
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Do you think was that the beginning stages of you know,
trying to start?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
I mean, there is a different sentiment toward football on
the West Coast, but there's a different sentiment toward almost
everything on the West Coast. And what attracts people and
what people are tribal about are are different. You know,
most people are here or just tribal about the freeway
because that's the only place that you're really sure everybody's
going to be.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
All but.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
You know, I mean, you'll be on the one ten
freeway and all of a sudden it's gridlock, and you're like,
what the hell's going on?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
And then you realize there was like.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Some kind of a Mexican soccer game, and you're like,
oh my god. You know, I mean, you know, it
is different. You know, there's no doubt about that, and
it's hard to explain to people if they're not you know.
And then some people just hate the West Coast. I mean,
there was that Dodger guy just Dodgers tried to trade
for a guy. I'm sure Eddie knows his name, but
(38:08):
Dodgers tried to trade for a guy Eduardo something. Yeah,
and uh, and he didn't want to come to La,
you know, and and uh, there's people that just are
not that into the West Coast. But yeah, I don't
I don't know if that that sentiment killed West Coast football.
I'm pretty sure just Larry Scott killed West Coast football. Wow,
because well and the university presidents that left him in charge.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Petris guy can't take a limousine to drive down Crenshaw Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You gotta air him ount and so you killed a conference.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
Geez, not just that the do you want to the
original sins of Larry Scott? Do you want me to
list some of us?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (38:43):
Seven networks? Not one? Okay, there's one.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
You know.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
Hey, let's show the pole vaulting instead of just kicking
ass in football and basketball and then then celebrating our
other sports. No network affiliation, right, They didn't partner with anybody.
They tried to do their own network and they suck
three hiring East Coast executives with little to no knowledge
of the conference landscape, and then locating the network in
(39:11):
the Bay Area where everybody sucks instead of a strong media.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Market in law.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
What do they sound like in the Bay Area?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
They say hella all the time. Yeah, that's right, Ao
for yeo.
Speaker 10 (39:23):
You know what I'm saying, like a movement or something.
The high feet. Look, that part of the Bay Area
is awesome.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Have you ever ghost ridden a whip before?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Wow? Not on purpose?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
But yet oh wow, how does that happen?
Speaker 10 (39:37):
I guess if it's not on purpose, well, look, I
mean I've rolled up my own head in a car window, you.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Know, I mean, you know, I mean that's not ghost
riding a whip.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
But I mean if it's not, if it's not on purpose,
I don't know if if it counts. But the whole
Stanford thing is really interesting, you know, and it's always
kind of baffled me and fascinated me because I mean,
they we have like forty thousand faculty and like eight
thousand students. It is the weirdest place on earth. And
(40:06):
it's a campus, right, like, yeah, that's carriage Well and
you've been there many times, Brady.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I mean, I love it.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I've done some stuff there, like taking some courses and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I think a wonderful place.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
It's a place, but they don't like if you're there
with a football crew. And maybe it's different for Brady
because he's one of the attractive people that would have
been saved at the end of Moon Raker. Brady would
have been saved by the end of Moon Raker, but
hold on, we.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Would We did an NFL program there and all I
recall was going to the old pro like because at
that point I knew a gentleman by the name of
God Rest of Soul, Bill Campbell, great man, huge influence
as kind of like an entrepreneurp of leadership site for
a lot of executives, and I was told to go
to Old Pro.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
So we went there.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
I took a bunch of the players who were there.
We got after it. I don't think they've ever seen
human beings drink as many yardsticks of beer as they've
ever seen. And when we ruled in the class the
next day, everyone's just fighting through a pretty rough hangar,
but maybe still drunk. And I remember thinking like, they
probably don't ever get this from they're students, Like they
probably never deal with this matter.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
We could tell a lot of stories here. I mean,
first of all, the place that was big time for
that and a lot of the old forty nine ers
and Tommy Vardell and people like that at Stanford was
the Oasis Burger in my time, but that closed in
Menlo Park. I have an affection for the place too,
I mean it's a beautiful place, but doing a game there,
(41:31):
I mean when the game's over, they want you to leave.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
I mean they don't want you. They do not want.
Speaker 10 (41:39):
People that are not Stanford, people anywhere near Stanford. I
mean it's always felt like that. It's always been like that.
They don't want a fan base, you know, they don't
really endear themselves to the area. If they did, they
Toby Gerhart or Andrew luck would have won the heisman.
Certainly Christian McCaffrey, for God's sakes. But you know, it's
(42:01):
just a very different to your point.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
They I could have sworn the bulldozer was aimed at
us initially after we left the field there in five Yeah,
I thought like they remember it in our direction, and
I was like, are they gonna like, are they gonna
knock this all over?
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Like while we're still here.
Speaker 10 (42:19):
It was right in the old tunnel, Brady's talking about
the last game of the year, Stanford versus Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
This guy named.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Ariaga, huge developer on the West coast, and big Donor said,
we're going to build this stadium in six months. You
know that old, horrible ninety thousand seat thing with the
big fences. It was like playing in a prison.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
I remember Vega on Street Fighter how they like climbed
the fence and like jump off an attack.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It was a lot of things like that type of fence. Y.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Yeah, it was like a WWF match, you know, like
steel cage.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
It's kind of cool, except no one was there.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Ye fans were, Yeah, it was a cage match in COVID.
Speaker 10 (42:54):
Yeah, we would travel there too, you know at usc Stanford,
you know, we'd have a lot of people up there
and I used to have success in that old piece
of crab stadium. But Brady's last game was the last
game ever at that stadium. And then this guy. They
worked night and day and they bragged about it. And
the funny thing is is they didn't consult anybody about
(43:17):
the stadium. They didn't talk to any TV companies or
people that put games on TV. So if you watch
a Stanford game on TV now, because they built the
stadium so quickly and didn't pay much attention to detail,
you'll notice that. You don't notice unless somebody tells you,
but all the camera angles are off.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
They're all pointed down. The grade is wrong.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
They didn't build any wells for the cameras to go,
so you're really kind of looking at the top of
the player's heads as opposed to more of a side view.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
So that's awkward. Could have fixed that.
Speaker 10 (43:52):
The booth, as you know, Brady has a riser on
it because they didn't build the booth right. And then
there's all these there's bars on the window. So yeah,
like the fifty yard line is literally covered by a
window sill and you're trying to call the game. That's yeah,
it's sometimes their isolation hurts hurts them. There's a great
(44:14):
video of a few years back down in San Diego
and that old sewer of a stadium Qualcom which San
Diego State has redone. Right, there's a video of Stanford,
San Diego State, and you see the Stanford tailgate. We've
all seen the Stanford tailgate. First of all, barely attended.
Second of all, wine, lot of wine, lots of wine, lushable,
(44:38):
Gavert's demeanor, Savignon blanc chard, Oh cheese up. The Ying
Yang polo shirts, Oh come on, and not cool polo
shirts like a bad birdie either.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
And so you got that going on one side.
Speaker 10 (44:54):
And then the camera turns and this, it's literally this
stark of a contrast. The camera turns to the San
Diego State tailgate and there is a bouncing in Paula
on hydraulics. There's smoke everywhere, vake smoke everything. You know,
they're playing, uh we.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Want to row in mossex Fall.
Speaker 10 (45:17):
I mean it was it was totally just an amazing
contract and part of that's the fun of college football
until Stanford turns around and helps ruin the conference with
punkass Larry Scott.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
So there he is.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
That's how you stick the landing at the old p
On Twitter. Petros Papadegas, the co host of the Petros
and Money Show, Fox College Football Analyst Petros.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
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Speaker 5 (45:43):
Thank you guys there is.
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Yeah, and star Trek. That's some range and star Trek. Yeah,
he was Gordy that's some range. There isn't that some range?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He was?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
He's in space. He was space traveling. He's book traveling. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
He's still major, majorly into uh doing what he needs
to do in terms of education and reading. He goes
all over the world, all over the country. How about
that reads books? Still reads books? Did you grow intelligent.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
You grew up on reading rainbow of course? Yeah, Pam,
how about it?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Didn't everyone?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Bam?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
How about that? I mean I don't know, not really me.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Can you read?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
He just did?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
He just did a hell of a I mean, his
his opening read was. That's that's why I asked that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I seem to be corrected.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
I'm not trying to correct anybody out of you know,
to be insulting here. But I don't look at ty
rack as a read I look at as a way
of life.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
How does how does reading rainbow like? How exactly is
their little phrase?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What's the phrase? Yeah? What is it?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like? I guess it's a jingle?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, we were just.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
We were just saying it.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I can't do anything. Take a look at a book
and reading. Take a look in a book at one too,
depending on the book. I mean, if it's Playboy, it's
at I guess it is. And you don't need to
read and you don't you don't need to be able
to read that periodical.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Yeah, call it the picture book.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, it's a picture book, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Fun little picture books were fun because it'd only be
like three or four words. It would be like, look
at the dog and there's a dog and then you
show yeah, yeah, just take a look.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
It's enough book.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's reading Rainbow.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
She got pop Yeah anyway, Yeah, place to grow reading Rainbow.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
It should be open.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Anything. I see my mom, Hey, my mom used.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
To make me believe I used to watch that.
Speaker 7 (03:10):
She's like, there's your night after him reading Rainbow.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yeah, necesarily in the morning too.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Come on, she could have been a boy band and
LaVar would have been lead singer and.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We go around the world singing and reading Rainbow.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Jonas you would have been in there too, you would
have had your Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
But I would have gotten like one or two lines
in and then just taking the checks and run with
it for the rest of my career.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
So and so.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
You can you can play instruments, right, Like I can't
play anything.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Have like a tambourine or something.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
Got a musical talent like your backup singer slash like
a tambourine.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I mean you don't.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
You don't really need to know how to play anything.
I mean, Elvis wasn't really playing a guitar. It was
like a prop. So you know, it's like he's like
he was at a kid's birthday party. He was playing
a rock star, so you just, uh, you know, you don't.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Really need to do everything.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Not really, it's more of a prop.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
I don't even think it was plugged in, to be
honest with you. It's like a music video. The instruments
aren't even playing.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Cardi b Okay.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
Yeah, although upon further detail, apparently people were coaxed into
throwing stuff at her on stage, which is.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, yeah, what happened see not upon further review, they
were telling the people in the crowd to cool her
down because it was so hot.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Who's they? Whoever?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
The DD was, Yeah, yeah, why.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Would he think though, that's something that anyone would want.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Well, because it was hot as hell, and I guess
he was like, you know, get her cooler off. And
because she did write a song you know called what
you know, they're just an accro.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, it's just uh so.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
This song is a really easy to read on a yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
You know, so that's definitely not part of reading Rainbow.
That song that was definitely left out. That was the
B sides version of that album.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Can't you say the acronym the acronym is not you
can say the acronym is wop? Wow, wop, take that
s out. It's not WASP, it's not white Anglo Saxon Protestant.
It actually means something different. Yeah, sure does.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Yeah, yeah, all right, well let's try and clean up
the mess.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Let's clean it up, you know, because you can throw
a microphone at it.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
By the way, Yeah, in this case, in this case,
the P stands for paid.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
That would be Sean Payton, all right, in this acronym,
because Sean Payton, as we all recall, about a week ago,
less than a week ago, decided to air out Nathaniel
Hackett and the entire Broncos organization from a year before.
You know, still members of that Broncos organization are there
in Denver now that Sean Payton is there. He claimed
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he regretted it forty minutes afterwards. Yet he didn't call
Jared Bell to have the article taken down or have
him not run with the article.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He just let it fly.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
So Nathaniel Hackett spoke for the first time publicly about
the whole situation yesterday at Jets' training camp. So let's
hear from the former Broncos head coach now Jets offensive
coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 9 (06:43):
I've been involved in this business my whole life, and
as a coach, you know, as a coach's kid. You know,
we live in a glasshouse. We know that we all
live in different rooms. We all got a key for it.
And it's one of those things that there's a code,
there's a way things are done. It's frustrating and it sucks,
but we're all susceptible to it.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
They're things that you do.
Speaker 9 (07:02):
Mistakes you make, and it costs you time on the field,
cost you your job, all those things, and I own
all that stuff. It's unfortunate that that had to happen,
that the comments that were made, but.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Hey, they did. I'll tell you can.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Always look at that silver lining and man, this organization,
these players, the coaches, Salah, everybody has been unbelievable. I
think that's something that is just awesome and it's brought
our team together.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He can say publicly that he would call to apologize,
has no we.
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Can the call never I've never met the guy, so
let's let's get home from it.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
That was last week. I think that's something.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
That is just awesome and it's brought our team together.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
So there's publicly that he would call to apologize. Has
he we cance the call? Never. I've never met the guy,
So let's get home from it. That was last week.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, well, but you just responded to it.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
And also he's not gonna hear from him because Sean
Payton isn't sorry anything he said like, he said what
he meant. He said what he meant like if he didn't,
he would have told Jared Bell again did not post it.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Let me just say this though about Nathaniel Hackett. I
feel like he's been the adult in the room with
the way he's handled it. And that's one thing, like,
regardless of what you want to say about how things
went in Denver last year, he always handled it with
class and dignity. You know, he he learned a lot
of lessons, I think as a first time head coach.
But you have to, like, at least from the human
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side of it, admit that he didn't really act, you know,
immature or respond in an immature way in a very
adult manner. Kind of portrayed the fact that I felt
like he kind of violated a coach's code. And I
feel like there's a lot of coaches out there who
would agree with that. And look, there there's somebody to
be said for that, like, like, say whatever you want
(08:49):
again about him as a head coach, how things went.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
There's a reason why Rogers loves him.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
You know, there's a reason why he got a job
right away as in oc in New York as opposed
to out on the sidelines right now. You know, people
respect him, People understand he's a better coach than how
things went last year. And even though it looked like
the perfect storm of a disaster with how everything went,
there's more to that story.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
I think a lot of people who you know, were
around that organization last year, you know, they would say
there's a lot of blame to be spread around. And
you know, the most interesting thing is going to be
the quarterback position. And if Sean Payton can get Russell
Wilson to be the guy we saw in Seattle and
play the way you know, we think he's capable of
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within an offense that's maybe not the offense that Russell
Wilson's pushing for. Maybe it's the offense that he doesn't
want but his best for him, if that makes sense,
Because that was one of the narratives that kind of
came out from Denver last year was there was one
pushing one person pushing for an offense that really didn't
suit his strengths, yet it's what he thought.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
He is or was as a quarterback, and it was
a disaster.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
And even though Nathaniel Hackett was a part of it,
he wasn't necessarily the person who was pushed for. He
was just trying to help support his player to be
the best player he thought he could be, and in
doing so, ultimate it costic for their jobs.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I think Sean Payton put it out there because he
wants to be able to give himself some added runway.
It's one thing to think that Russ is the guy,
it's another thing to know he's the guy. Right, So
coming into this scenario, he decided to sacrifice Nathaniel Hackett,
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the ownership of the team, other players. He decided to
sacrifice all of them to try and paint a picture
that says that Sean Payton can come in and fix
this with Russell Wilson. Now he puts some dirt on
Russell Wilson's hands, so there's enough dirt on his hands
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from Sean Payton's statement to say that that dirt was
dirty enough where we probably need to go in a
different direction. But we're going in a different direction after
I gave it an opportunity to see if I, the
true coach, that is a quarterback whisperer, can get the
most out of Russell Wilson. And I think that that's
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all it came down to is he basically said this
was a dumpster fire. I'm taking over a dumpster fire.
If I do well in year one, that's a testament
to how good I am and how good my coaching
staff is. If we don't do well in year one,
I get to get out of it because I get
to say Nathaniel Hackett sucked as a coach, the organization
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sucked in their decision making, and I have to continue
to fix this. I think that's ultimately what it comes
down to. Sean Payton has shown before that he's about
self preservation. So the whole coach code thing I think
is out the door with someone like him, and like
Nathaniel Hackett said, I never met the man. He doesn't
even know them. They don't even know each other. So
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whether it's coaching code that he violated or not, I
don't think Sean Payne even gives a damn that he
violated any type of code. He's looking out for Sean
Payton at this point.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
I mean, it's gonna be uh, it's just the whole
presentation of Hard Knocks. I'm curious to see how they
go about it, because you know, they're looking for anything
they can to try and spice that series up. And
I feel like they're really going to lean into this one,
much like we all have. I feel like they're going
to lean into this one, and this is going to
be presented in a certain way.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's connected to their biggest storyline, right Yeah, I mean
it's connected to Aaron Rodgers. So why wouldn't you lean
into that? See what comes of it. I mean, don't
see how much you can lean on it though, because
it's not and it's not there. You're not seeing it
play out there for the camera other than just reactions.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Who has the better season Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Aaron Rodgers, Oh geez, Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
Because I actually think Russell Wilson is going to be
a lot better, just because it's impossible. He's got Sean
Payton well, and also, I mean, you know, he doesn't
say it's not better than what he was last year.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He say, who's going to have the better season, I'll
say Rogers.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
But I do think Wilson is going to play well,
and I think Denver is going to be a good team.
I think Denver is going to be a playoff team.
But yeah, okay, but we'll russ but but yeah, I
think they were playing.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
When you say Denver will be a better team, first
of all, they're in a super tough division.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Well yeah, and hold on for a second. So they
get so they're one of seven teams. Who's the other six?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
I would say, if we're going obviously the Chiefs, I
would say the Bills, I would say the Ravens, the Bengals, Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Where we at right now? Five?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Five?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
All right?
Speaker 3 (13:58):
So then I'll go Miami. Wow, yeah, question mark teams?
You throw San Diego.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I mean, at least so the Chargers once again don't
make it.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Uh yeah, well I don't know, jeez, why do you
do this to me?
Speaker 7 (14:14):
Well, I'm just saying, like when you said the Denver
Brogles are a playoff team, I'm thinking, well, all right,
I guess Herbert his contract and everything means like that's
a roster that is a playoff roster?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Am I wrong in that assessment? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I know, I think they are, like they are.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Loaded, don't. I don't get it, Like, I'm not sure
how I mean.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
I think after this year, if they don't, You've really
got some great concerns because I think there's a lot
of other coaches that are out there that are, like,
I want that job, because that quarterback, that roster that's
a that should be a playoff team doesn't make sense.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
What would you say if I were to ask you
right now the odds on Denver to make the playoffs
on DraftKings, what would you say they are?
Speaker 2 (14:53):
What kind of money?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I would say they are ten to one.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Really to make a who the Broncos? Yeah, the Broncos.
I'd go higher than that. Longer odds plus one eighty
so one hundred bucks wins you want eighty on Denver
to go to the playoffs. So I think the Steelers
will have a bounce back year this year.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Yah, hadn't even mentioned Cleveland and Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
They're just so relaxed so much, We're going to have
to table that conversation.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, there is well done. There is well done.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
That was the one the show We're going to have
the massage that topic a little bit more later.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Here's a towel. You did a hell of a job today.
Helevant job at the hour.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
You know, I'm already regretting my Broncos to make the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Pick.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Can we take that out of the podcast please, Now
that I'm thinking about it, keep.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
It in there, all right, keep it in Just like
our conversation about the US women's national team and what
happens if they tie?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So, oh, hey, look advance, Hey Lee, you know they're not.
Speaker 7 (16:13):
Leading their group, and so I think they've got a
much harder path, which I think was the point.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
And Lee's like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You got to keep it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
You know, I didn't know Netherlands was gonna go eight
nothing on their next match.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, well cool, That's why.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
We asked these questions.
Speaker 7 (16:30):
I do I do appreciate the fact that that Carly
Lloyd's like, what are these girls doing?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Why are they why are they celebrating?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
But you're not allowed to criticize them.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You can't, but you can't know.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
It wasn't be criticizing.
Speaker 7 (16:40):
I was just applauding the fact that Carli Lloyd has
a former Absolute Star it's like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna hold this locker room accountable for a second.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
And she got a ton of blowback for it, like
people work, Yeah, coming after saying oh, well, you know
her comments were out of line and that's just you know,
her being She's gonna get honest for wanting to celebrate
and all. It's like sorry that she's got higher expectations
because this is supposed to be the best team in
the world and they played like crap.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
I mean well yeah, and they've dominated, you know, through
the group stage for the most part. I mean again,
I go, I go back to the very first game
vers Vietnam. The over under was set a six and
a half. Who did you think they think was scoring
all those goals? Right, It wasn't Vietnam. They were expecting
the women's team to literally blow them out like they
had in the past, or the Netherlands.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Who's there was in their group and was able to
blow out some point.
Speaker 6 (17:28):
You guys, remember the first time the Dream Team lost,
or the US men's basketball team.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Ever lost, but Dream Team never lost.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
It was always.
Speaker 6 (17:35):
Painted as Dream Team, Dream Team Volume two, like oh,
nobody's gonna beat us and the first time they lost,
they got schewed up and spit out by everybody. This
is disgusting. Nobody cares anymore. They made drastic changes. There's
nothing wrong with being critical, I mean, but if you're.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Far ast for that, the dream team never lost. There
was iterations of the dreams, right, that wasn't really the
dream team.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, my dream team, that's for sure. Ninety two.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Oh, my dream team. They don't play basketball, No, no,
they do something else.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, what's that?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I don't know. That's why.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's why they're my dream team. Damn. That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
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Speaker 6 (18:30):
Brady Quinn is back with us here, traveling the globe
doing what he does, and he's back with us today,
and he might have himself a little bit of a
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Speaker 2 (18:40):
Is there a problem, puffy bottom? Yeah?
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I mean, don't don't get me started on certain etiquette
or certain things that are allowed or shouldn't be allowed
on an airplane. All right, let me just start off
by saying this, all right, if you're going to bring
one of your pets onto an airplane, okay, you got
to be responsible for them.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
You know.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
It's almost like having a child, right, when you bring
a child on airplane. And this is where, like LeVar
and Jonas, I'm sure you can relate, and especially I'm
sure like LaVar, when your kids are young, Jonas, your
son's young, My kids are young, you feel the most
responsibility for keeping them quiet, not allowing them to be
a distraction, right of course. Yeah, is that fair? I
have you guys had some bad flights before. You're like,
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these people must hate me, right.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
I hate it myself.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Lee was on one.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
How about Gully, my son was not the most cooperative. Yeah,
he pissed everybody off.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
And so here's the deal.
Speaker 7 (19:39):
And I love LeVar what you just said, because like,
you take responsibility right. Our oldest was so bad on
a really short connecting flight from Atlanta to Cincinnati. We're
heading for a wedding. I'm still waiting for the invitation
in the mail. But I was I was the best
man in a wedding and.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
We're heading in there.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Really weren't many options, flights delayed, all this stuff, and
she's passed her naptime. She cannot stand anymore. I've never
seen a child act like this. I thought she was possessed.
I was almost going to go to the church and
ask the priest be like, hey, man, you do like
an extracism because what just occurred for that forty five
minute flight wasn't real. And she was like like rolling
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around sobbing, crying on the ground on like the floor
of a plane, which it might be the dirtiest place
on the planet. And so afterwards I was like, you know,
she can't come to the wedding. I was like, you
need to like bathe her and like have her take
a nap. That's beside the point, because I think as
parents we all kind of get it, and for most passengers,
like either you've you've experienced it as a parent, or
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you kind of feel bad for people. Right who I
don't feel bad for are the people who bring pets
on the plane that are not responsible for them. I
had a guy sitting literally a row behind me, like
diagonally across.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
He brought on a cat to the plane.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Okay, now a cat.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Now I will start by saying this Like, I'm not
here to disparage anyone who's a cat person, not a
dog person. I happen to be a dog.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
Person, Okay, I would say probably all of us on
the show are dog people.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
That's just my guess.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Yeah, this guy was a cat guy, Okay, and whatever
stereotype you know, you want to say, like you picture
in your head, he.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Looked like a cat guy. All right, I'll just I'll
put it that way.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
This thing for the two hour plus flight, from the
time he sat down to the time it landed, moaned
and meow the entire time. Like I sort of got
I almost asked the flight attendant. I'm like, is this
animal abuse? Like, let the thing out on the plane.
I know there could be people with allergies. They would
probably rather have a bunch of hives breakout or have
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an allergic reaction, have someone stabbed them with an EpiPen,
then deal with that sound of this cat.
Speaker 10 (21:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Oh, like the whole time, NonStop.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
At one point point he got up to like walk
it around like it was a crying baby. He was
literally like shaking it, like walking up and down the aisles.
So everyone can get it right, Like everyone's gonna listen
to this this cat who just can't cannot be in
this little cage any longer. I was like, for something
that's like, doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
It was the most annoying thing I've heard on a
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flight in a long time.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
I personally, I will never buy a pair of headphones
that aren't noise canceling headphones.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Bro I had in noise canceling headphone still here to
get it's like a different frequency.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
I would have gotten out of my seat and I'd
have been like, ma'am, sir, can you please shut that
freaking cat up?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Please listen for the love of God.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You know, I thought you were going with this, not
not to step away, you Jones, but where I thought
you were going, because I just had a flight home
from Vegas the other day the other day and there
was a dog on the no worries, we sit down.
The dog started crawling over the feet, like, look, you
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got your dog. It's a little dog. You got your dog.
Hold your freaking dog. Don't let your dog just walk
all of Don't let your dog just walk all over
somebody that doesn't know you or your.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Dog, like like you would.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I just don't understand is why are you just allowing
your dog to just walk freely? Like dog walked across
the aisle, walked up on me. Like everybody is an
animal lovers. Everybody don't love animals like I happen to
be okay with dogs and animals. But what I'm saying,
but what I'm not okay with I don't care. We're
not even le I don't care anywhere. Don't just don't
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don't be not like, don't pay attention like you said
to your your animal.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Here's what we know.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Uh, we don't love your animal as much as you do.
That well that's fair, and so don't be bringing that
thing up around and and causing a ruckus or causing
you know whatever to try. I was just I'm thinking
to myself, there's no way, because when we first sat
down on the plane, it started and I'm like, someone's
got to say something.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
To this guy. And I kind of kept looking back
and I'm like.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Is that that dude right there by the way who's
sitting there doing nothing like at least look a little
apologetic about creating all this noise, And like people keep
looking around like are you gonna do something?
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I can help you. I got some right, You're gonna
put that right in his mouth. That cat go right
to sleep.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
I'm convinced that cats are the reason God created coyotes.
Oh wow, I'm telling you. You want me to take
care of that problem, you know, but I got something
for you.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
That was that was the one issue is there wasn't
a pet coyote on the plane.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Have going on play this game.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Yeah, Mike cost you.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
You might tear through like a three point four ounce
bottle of col but you know what, he's going to
get to that cat. He will get to that cat.
Not a problem whatsoever. I can't cats bug the hell
out of me.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Man.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Well, And that's the thing is, like I was like,
was this worse than a crying baby? And I thought
to myself, probably because I would feel bad for the
crying baby and the parents, I didn't feel bad for
this cat. I'm like, you know, he's got kind of
a luxurious bag he's traveling in. This guy was wearing
a fanny pack. I'm sure with the different treats and
oh dude, trust me, this guy, I just you know,
(25:31):
I feel for him.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
He's he's that's that cat. That's all he's got.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
When that cat does, it's over for him. He's going
with the catro that's all.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Yeah, he's probably going to accumulate more cats.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Let me tell you something.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
You'll know that cat died because you walk into that
guy's apartment and it says Brooks was here carved out
over the top of his living room. That's how that's
going to go. I'm just saying, like, that's it's over
for that.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
We were close. You just hop skipped them jump line.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Why not that noise can out do noise canceling headphones?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
That should be a law. You know what it was
you should have broke. That's a law. You should have
to go to jail.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
They should take that person and its cat to the jail,
put him in uh in jail, and put the cat
in into the uh into the what what's it called
where they take them.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
There you go, just like that, there you go.
Speaker 7 (26:23):
I honestly felt like it was inhumane. I'm like, am
I gonna go Ontamo Bay right now?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
What's like? What is that? It was? That was the thing? Is? What?
What's that? My headphones on? Like I could hear it
through and I'm like, is that the cat still?
Speaker 7 (26:35):
Like like, have they just not figured out in the
noise canceling headphones how to get that frequency out?
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Was it a good looking fad ass cat.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No, it didn't look like Garfield.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Didn't look like any of the boss cats you see
out there.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
It sounds like it was just a big old lazy asque.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
No it was. It wasn't even like impressive.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
You know, it would be one thing if it was
close to like it was a big cas like never
like a bobcat.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I'm like, all right, that thing might mess me up.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I mean, that king gets out, that thing is going
to take whatever they were serving on that plane and
be like, yeah, this is mine and you may find
your own.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
Maybe it wasn't just a pet. Maybe it was also
a transport vehicle. Maybe the cat had some narcotics.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
In it had cocaine.
Speaker 7 (27:23):
No, No, it was like a tiny little just you
just you, I mean, it's just I mean, I said
everything about the owner, that's all said.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
I can't I can't wait to get the side text
of what he really means about that owner right now,
Please send it.
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hear on the Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports.
He's also a Fox College football analyst, Pee, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
To you, Hello to everybody, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
How you feeling? Petros?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Did I kick Brady off the air?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
No?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
He's there, Yeah, okay, okay, he was here.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Yeah, No, I just didn't hear anything.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Oh, you can hear me now?
Speaker 10 (28:52):
Yeah, I got you now, Okay, Now, it's hard to
connect everybody, you know at five in the morning.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
My fingers are a little low.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Sorry, it happens.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Hey, Petro's with Arizona leaving the PAC twelve. Oh no,
I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Are they leaving? What happened? Did that happen?
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think it's pretty much official. They're discussing it. It's expected.
Speaker 10 (29:15):
I'm in pretty close contact with some pretty high ups
over there in the dirty t in Tucson, and I
did not wake up to that news, although I do
expect it.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
So what's that? Does that disappoint you or you numb
to the whole thing at this point? Disappoint me?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
I mean you grew up on Pack ten PAC twelve four.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Well, I mean we talked about last week.
Speaker 10 (29:37):
We talked about what Brady and I were at the
PAC twelve Championship in twenty eighteen working. Yeah, And the
whole narrative was just wait till twenty twenty three. Our
deal is going to be amazing. You're gonna love what
we do in twenty twenty three. And that was five
years ago and it's twenty twenty three and se and
(30:01):
UCLA are gone, and Colorado is gone, and all these
other teams are right on the brink and it's over,
and it's hard to imagine the league going forward with
nine teams. You know, adding San Diego State doesn't solve
your problems. But they could have done that in June
(30:22):
and had more teams and not been on the brink
of absolute decimation. But you know why they didn't add
San Diego State back in June because of Stanford and
cal and the academic a right, we can't possibly out
of state school at all. It's like, you guys, you
guys are dying, like you guys are literally falling apart.
(30:44):
One of the great leagues in the history of college sports,
in my very humble opinion, is going away. It was
a perfect league and had all these great travel partners
with the two Washingtons, the two Arizonas, the two Organs,
et cetera. And they just it didn't have to be
this way. We keep talking about it. All they had
(31:05):
to do was partner with a network. But even when
George Klayavkov, this guy took over and almost right away
he lost USC and Ucla. But the PAC twelve never
should have had their hub in the Bay Area. They
never should have acted like, oh, Silicon Valley. It's like
(31:26):
those to football fans though, aren't they sure? Yeah, go
to Los Angeles. Stanford doesn't even want a fan base
and Cal has had a love hate relationship with their
football program forever. I mean, go to LA ask the
LA schools what they need?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
How do you stay in here?
Speaker 10 (31:45):
And the fact that the idiot ad that was at
USC st Pat well, Pat Hayden, I said, which one, Yeah,
the one that was there when the TV deal was done,
because the idiot Larry's well, yeah, you got Lynn Swann
is inept attooed and it's just Mike Bone, the the
Bone Arena, the old you guys don't even know.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
This guy, right Bone.
Speaker 10 (32:17):
But I tell you, you know, would you rather have
the Stanford people? I mean, it's just it's been awful
for a long time. But what they needed to do
was go to the LA schools and say what do
you need? How do we help you? How do we
keep you? And twelve years ago, I mean USC just
(32:37):
took the same deal as Oregon State took and they
and there was no out, there was no negotiation, and
three or four years in you saw that the PAC
twelve network, not partnered with an actual place that has distribution,
was failing, didn't even have distribution in their own footprint.
I mean, it's been a it's it's almost been like
(32:58):
a it's it's almost been like a book about how
not to f things up.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
It's worse than that, it's too obvious.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
I mean, it will it will be a case study.
Like it will literally be a case study.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
I don't know if it's on you know, poor leadership
decision making, however you go about phrasing it.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I have no doubt.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
And probably Stanford might even write the case study themselves,
but it will be.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
A case study.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
Stanford's a huge problem in this. You know, Stanford and
the university presidents are really to blame because they needed
to take extremely judicious action, like early into this, knowing
that they had brought in the wrong guy, old limousine
(33:44):
Larry Scott, and what they were doing was going and
how do you get that next give wrong direction because
he would take a limousine to go two blocks.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Oh my god, you know, And it's funny.
Speaker 10 (33:53):
The original PAC twelve commissioner or ten when I was
first working and was there forever.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
He was like a dinosaur.
Speaker 10 (34:01):
Tom Hanson was like he looked like a pe teacher
in like a fifties movie. He was like a guy
with a flat top and he was like a really
kindly old man. He had like a Bill Snyder vibe
and you need did you have a whistle?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
No kick me? And the Jimmy no.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
U.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
He he was the kind of guy who would take
like like he would get his brother in law to
pick him up if he was going to Phoenix, so
he didn't take a cab and charge the network. So
they went from that guy to a guy that takes,
you know, a limousine to go a block and eats
(34:43):
Petrocian caviar for breakfast. And you know, I mean it
was like you know when you hire a player's coach
and he fails, so the next guy you get as
a disciplinarian, right, and like they really went the other way,
and it was a terrible, terrible decision, and it in
West Coast football as we know it because it really
was a hell of a conference and it didn't have
(35:05):
to happen.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
And now it's all getting poached away.
Speaker 10 (35:09):
And yeah, I think Arizona is the next Domino to fall,
but I didn't hear that it was a done deal yet, Jonah,
I ast.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
You this, how much of the concern over CTE and
football played a role in the West Coast because that
was something that like I remember early on, like initially
look as a player, right because all stuff's coming out
while you're playing, and you're like, oh, dude, okay, like
let's let's look into this. And the more I looked
into it, the more I was like, yeah, there's cos
(35:37):
for concern. However, there's cost for a concern if you
played women's soccer in high school, right, like the amount
of concussions from headers and the constant you know, heading
of the of a soccer ball, Like there's cos for
concern there. Like if you were going to start and say, well,
there's cos for concern with football ct you kind of
have to look at every sport where there could be
(35:57):
any sort.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Of contact of the head.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
But it felt like there was more of an impact
maybe on the West Coast as far as younger and
then how that impacted football and maybe.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
A grassroots roots edge. Did you see or feel any
of that?
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Not in La No, I mean and not not in
La Not.
Speaker 10 (36:18):
I don't think Arizona or you know, the football powers
are still the football powers that be no matter where
you live. But I do think it's a real thing
at Stanford, Brady and I think I think that that.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Stanford the whole. How would they describe the problem if
you were talking for someone.
Speaker 10 (36:39):
You know, I was once up at Stanford camp and
they all had computer chips like like they all you know,
like one of those diabetes things you know that people
have on the back of their arm. Uh. They all
had those on their heads and they and their heads
were being monitored what by by some research firm on
(37:00):
campus And pretty interesting, right, I mean, And that was
a while back, you know, I mean that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Was seven or eight years ago at least.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Was that the start of AI?
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Do you think was that the beginning stages of you know,
trying to start?
Speaker 4 (37:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (37:16):
I mean, there is a different sentiment toward football on
the West Coast, but there's a different sentiment toward almost
everything on the West Coast. And what attracts people and
what people are tribal about are are different. You know,
most people are here or just tribal about the freeway
because that's the only place that you're really sure everybody's
going to be.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
All but.
Speaker 10 (37:41):
You know, I mean, you'll be on the one ten
freeway and all of a sudden it's gridlock, and you're like,
what the hell's going on?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
And then you realize there was like.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Some kind of a Mexican soccer game, and you're like,
oh my god. You know, I mean, you know, it
is different. You know, there's no doubt about that, and
it's hard to explain to people if they're not you know.
And then some people just hate the West Coast. I mean,
there was that Dodger guy just Dodgers tried to trade
for a guy. I'm sure Eddie knows his name, but
(38:08):
Dodgers tried to trade for a guy Eduardo something. Yeah,
and uh, and he didn't want to come to La,
you know, and and uh, there's people that just are
not that into the West Coast. But yeah, I don't
I don't know if that that sentiment killed West Coast football.
I'm pretty sure just Larry Scott killed West Coast football. Wow,
because well and the university presidents that left him in charge.
Speaker 6 (38:31):
Petris guy can't take a limousine to drive down Crenshaw Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
You gotta air him ount and so you killed a conference.
Speaker 10 (38:37):
Geez, not just that the do you want to the
original sins of Larry Scott? Do you want me to
list some of us?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (38:43):
Seven networks? Not one? Okay, there's one.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
You know.
Speaker 10 (38:49):
Hey, let's show the pole vaulting instead of just kicking
ass in football and basketball and then then celebrating our
other sports. No network affiliation, right, They didn't partner with anybody.
They tried to do their own network and they suck
three hiring East Coast executives with little to no knowledge
of the conference landscape, and then locating the network in
(39:11):
the Bay Area where everybody sucks instead of a strong media.
Speaker 5 (39:16):
Market in law.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
What do they sound like in the Bay Area?
Speaker 5 (39:19):
They say hella all the time. Yeah, that's right, Ao
for yeo.
Speaker 10 (39:23):
You know what I'm saying, like a movement or something.
The high feet. Look, that part of the Bay Area
is awesome.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Have you ever ghost ridden a whip before?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Wow? Not on purpose?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
But yet oh wow, how does that happen?
Speaker 10 (39:37):
I guess if it's not on purpose, well, look, I
mean I've rolled up my own head in a car window, you.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
Know, I mean, you know, I mean that's not ghost
riding a whip.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
But I mean if it's not, if it's not on purpose,
I don't know if if it counts. But the whole
Stanford thing is really interesting, you know, and it's always
kind of baffled me and fascinated me because I mean,
they we have like forty thousand faculty and like eight
thousand students. It is the weirdest place on earth. And
(40:06):
it's a campus, right, like, yeah, that's carriage Well and
you've been there many times, Brady.
Speaker 4 (40:11):
I mean, I love it.
Speaker 7 (40:12):
I've done some stuff there, like taking some courses and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I think a wonderful place.
Speaker 10 (40:17):
It's a place, but they don't like if you're there
with a football crew. And maybe it's different for Brady
because he's one of the attractive people that would have
been saved at the end of Moon Raker. Brady would
have been saved by the end of Moon Raker, but
hold on, we.
Speaker 7 (40:32):
Would We did an NFL program there and all I
recall was going to the old pro like because at
that point I knew a gentleman by the name of
God Rest of Soul, Bill Campbell, great man, huge influence
as kind of like an entrepreneurp of leadership site for
a lot of executives, and I was told to go
to Old Pro.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
So we went there.
Speaker 7 (40:51):
I took a bunch of the players who were there.
We got after it. I don't think they've ever seen
human beings drink as many yardsticks of beer as they've
ever seen. And when we ruled in the class the
next day, everyone's just fighting through a pretty rough hangar,
but maybe still drunk. And I remember thinking like, they
probably don't ever get this from they're students, Like they
probably never deal with this matter.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
We could tell a lot of stories here. I mean,
first of all, the place that was big time for
that and a lot of the old forty nine ers
and Tommy Vardell and people like that at Stanford was
the Oasis Burger in my time, but that closed in
Menlo Park. I have an affection for the place too,
I mean it's a beautiful place, but doing a game there,
(41:31):
I mean when the game's over, they want you to leave.
Speaker 5 (41:36):
I mean they don't want you. They do not want.
Speaker 10 (41:39):
People that are not Stanford, people anywhere near Stanford. I
mean it's always felt like that. It's always been like that.
They don't want a fan base, you know, they don't
really endear themselves to the area. If they did, they
Toby Gerhart or Andrew luck would have won the heisman.
Certainly Christian McCaffrey, for God's sakes. But you know, it's
(42:01):
just a very different to your point.
Speaker 7 (42:05):
They I could have sworn the bulldozer was aimed at
us initially after we left the field there in five Yeah,
I thought like they remember it in our direction, and
I was like, are they gonna like, are they gonna
knock this all over?
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Like while we're still here.
Speaker 10 (42:19):
It was right in the old tunnel, Brady's talking about
the last game of the year, Stanford versus Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
This guy named.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Ariaga, huge developer on the West coast, and big Donor said,
we're going to build this stadium in six months. You
know that old, horrible ninety thousand seat thing with the
big fences. It was like playing in a prison.
Speaker 7 (42:38):
I remember Vega on Street Fighter how they like climbed
the fence and like jump off an attack.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
It was a lot of things like that type of fence. Y.
Speaker 10 (42:44):
Yeah, it was like a WWF match, you know, like
steel cage.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
It's kind of cool, except no one was there.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Ye fans were, Yeah, it was a cage match in COVID.
Speaker 10 (42:54):
Yeah, we would travel there too, you know at usc Stanford,
you know, we'd have a lot of people up there
and I used to have success in that old piece
of crab stadium. But Brady's last game was the last
game ever at that stadium. And then this guy. They
worked night and day and they bragged about it. And
the funny thing is is they didn't consult anybody about
(43:17):
the stadium. They didn't talk to any TV companies or
people that put games on TV. So if you watch
a Stanford game on TV now, because they built the
stadium so quickly and didn't pay much attention to detail,
you'll notice that. You don't notice unless somebody tells you,
but all the camera angles are off.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
They're all pointed down. The grade is wrong.
Speaker 10 (43:40):
They didn't build any wells for the cameras to go,
so you're really kind of looking at the top of
the player's heads as opposed to more of a side view.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
So that's awkward. Could have fixed that.
Speaker 10 (43:52):
The booth, as you know, Brady has a riser on
it because they didn't build the booth right. And then
there's all these there's bars on the window. So yeah,
like the fifty yard line is literally covered by a
window sill and you're trying to call the game. That's yeah,
it's sometimes their isolation hurts hurts them. There's a great
(44:14):
video of a few years back down in San Diego
and that old sewer of a stadium Qualcom which San
Diego State has redone. Right, there's a video of Stanford,
San Diego State, and you see the Stanford tailgate. We've
all seen the Stanford tailgate. First of all, barely attended.
Second of all, wine, lot of wine, lots of wine, lushable,
(44:38):
Gavert's demeanor, Savignon blanc chard, Oh cheese up. The Ying
Yang polo shirts, Oh come on, and not cool polo
shirts like a bad birdie either.
Speaker 5 (44:51):
And so you got that going on one side.
Speaker 10 (44:54):
And then the camera turns and this, it's literally this
stark of a contrast. The camera turns to the San
Diego State tailgate and there is a bouncing in Paula
on hydraulics. There's smoke everywhere, vake smoke everything. You know,
they're playing, uh we.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
Want to row in mossex Fall.
Speaker 10 (45:17):
I mean it was it was totally just an amazing
contract and part of that's the fun of college football
until Stanford turns around and helps ruin the conference with
punkass Larry Scott.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
So there he is.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
That's how you stick the landing at the old p
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