August 3, 2023 • 39 mins
The Pac-12 is being left behind after failing to adapt with other Power 5 Conferences. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys from the middle of his Training Camp Tour. Plus, IPA, Bar Nuts and more on “You In or Out?”
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We'll be talking a little bit more about that. At
some point we did some over unders. Who got Jets,
Who got Browns? The NFL is back, and apparently, while
the NFL is just now returning, expansion in college football
continues to rage on. It's a feeding frenzy of the
Pac twelve, and apparently the Big Ten has started to
look into this a little bit as well. To that,
according to Yahoo Sports, that the Big Ten has identified
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teams such as Oregon, Washington, Cal and Stanford as potential
targets for the conference, and that the Big Ten released
a statement saying the following quote. The Big Ten Conference
is still focused on integration of USC and UCLA, but
it's also the commissioner's job to keep conference chancellors and
presidents informed about new developments as they occur. So we
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could be on the verge of the PAC twelve. Just
man up in Vanish like a fart in the wind,
and no more Pac twelve conferences. Everybody's moving around. Let's
speed this up.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This isn't born out of the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Though, Let's just be clear about why this topic of
discussion is even happening, and this is this has more
to do with the fact that the PAC twelve schools
are looking to try to find some way of staying
competitive and specifically economically right, and so of course the
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Big Ten is willing to hear out high academic schools
like Whole Stun Food or Cow or whoever else, but
also brands like Oregon and Washington that would help make
the conference more competitive. But I'll keep hearkening back to this.
This is all driven off of the TV rights media
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deal that the Pack twelve has yet to release, but
as we know now what it most likely is looking
like it's going to be a deal maybe with Apple,
who would tier this based on subscriptions and that model.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It scares every single PAC twelve school.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Enough to want them to move and look to go
to a different conference where they know exactly what that
revenue model is going to be. I mean, for schools
that have been well established for a while now, the
last thing they want is some sort of radical change.
And I know it feels like moving to the Big
Ten for those West Coast schools would be a radical change.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But what would ultimately be.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
A radical change, especially coming out of a year in
COVID where every single universe or institution saw a hit
in the revenue they were able to generate. It would
be millions and millions of dollars not coming in from
the TV rights media deals that they're.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Accustomed to having.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And that's essentially what's going to happen with the Pac
twelve media rights. And it's why they haven't announced it
because they can't because they know these schools whatever so
far has been discussed and thrown out there and talked
about because I'm sure the schools, you know, the presidents,
the athletic directors have said, what's the number? Like what
you can't ask us to commit to a conference if
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we don't know what these numbers are. And so I'm
sure what they've seen has caused them or scared them
enough to say, we have to have discussions with the
Big twelve. If your Colorado and Arizona, which will be
the next team to move, we have to have these
discussions with the Big ten if you're cal Stanford, Oregon,
Washington in order to find a safe place to go.
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So this is all born out of the PAC twelve
media rights. We seem to have harped on this now
for probably a couple of weeks. You've heard Petros and
myself kind of key on it. You know, Limousine Larry
is partially to blame, I guess obviously the university presidence,
which Petros really kind of laid out there, partially to
blame with the lack of prioritization they gave to sports
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football specifically. And this is what's going to happen. The
Big Ten's not going to let these four schools in,
at least not with a full revenue share. Okay, if
these four schools enter the Big Ten, they will most
likely take fifty percent fifty percent of what they were
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whatever the school makes. And the hard thing is is
you have to ask yourself, are those four brands in Stanford,
cal Oregon, Washington?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are they important.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Enough to Fox and CBS and NBC since that's who's
going to be part of the distribution of these brands
of these games. Are they important enough to move the needle?
And can they get any more money out? Because because
the deal's the deal as it stands right now. Now
now Big ten can go back to the media, you know,
partners and try to figure figure how this is going
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to work. But I don't know that the TV you know,
the TV networks are overly ecstatic about bringing in more
brands unless they feel like they can rate and allow
them to drive more advertising revenue. And you have to
think that schools outside like Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State,
you know, some of the bigger schools, I don't know
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that they care quite as much. I think it's the
smaller schools that probably would vote against it. You know,
in Indiana, Rutgers, Illinois, like they might be seeing themselves.
Why do we want to let schools that we're going
to be direct competition with are gonna make it harder
for us to try to have a shot of winning
a Big Ten if they're not going to bring in
a ton of additional revenue. And the only schools that
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really do that are USC and UCLA. That's why they're
in the Big ten already. So you know, I'll be
curious to see if this gets done. But as Zona
looks to leave to the Big twelve, it's just setting
up the dominoes to fall, and eventually I would think
that those other four probably makes sense going to the
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Big I think from a scheduling standpoint, and for all
the sports outside of football, like the Olympic sports and
even basketball for that matter, it probably makes it a
little easier because you can start having, you know, a
West Coast trip for a week or two for these
student athletes where you're playing some games against some of
those West Coast schools.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And then you're going back. You're not just going out
for a.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Usc UCLA matchup to help kind of offset maybe some
of the budgetary concerns that some of these schools have.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I would imagine Oregon Washington would be the two you'd
want if you're the Big ten. If you were going
to accept two of the four.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well you're probably going to accept all four if you do.
And reason being is, you know, the university presidents still
play a role in all of this. They vote on this,
and they do look at the academic standards of a
school like Stunfood and Cal and the public institution that
it is, and obviously you know, they look at the
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excellence behind all of that.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I mean, they care about that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like meanwhile, like their football program is what's going to
drive revenue and make a lot of students who you
don't want to be around it, Like id I kind
of compare it to like Silicon Valley, right like when
Golden State started to get good, Like Silicon Valley offusly
has kind of been what it's been.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
For a while now.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But look at how many like look at how many
fans there are of the Golden State Warriors, especially with
the run of success they had with Steph and you know,
Steve Kerr and that whole crew, Draymond and Clay Kevin
Durant when he was there, Like it became like a
thing for Silicon Valley, right, Like it was easier to
probably recruit people in general because the benefits and the
companies they're working for. But it helps when you've got
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bomb teams that are out there and the forty nine
ers in the success they'll have, or the Giants or
whoever else. It always helps to have that as part
of your work environment. Like everyone loves the root for
a winner. Everyone loves to root for a team and
have success and see success, and so all those things
start to parlay into one another. I think like Nick
Sabon and Alabama have done that better than anyone else.
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Go look at the increased rate of applicants and the
standard of applicants. Since he's gotten there, they've had success.
It's a cool place to be. It's a cool place
to be. People love going there because of the success
they have. It's impacted the local economy Athens, Georgia's is
obviously gonna be the same way too.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Like that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
People love being around success, whether you are a part
of it as an athlete or not. And so that's
what I always I always feel like university presidents probably
don't really get the most and some do, but most
of them don't understand the impact of sports and how
that parlays into academia and how it helps.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And it's the high time that really does raise all boats.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I mean, majority of the one hundred thousand people that
show up to these games, like those are students of
the university. I mean there's fans that will appear, but
those are students of the university and just the atmosphere
of the presentation that.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Is the majority.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean, yeah, think about Notre Dame for example, the
stadium selections, the stadium sits like eighty thousand, right, the
student body of undergrads on eight thousand, so you don't
have one tenth of that stadium is filled up with students.
It's usually alumni, it's it's business and corporate partners, it's fans.
Like I would say, that's probably more of the norm.
I mean, student sections are big, but when you talk
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about hundred thousand people, you know, you don't you don't
have that many going to school at that time.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Even Ohio State for example, it's a big school.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
But yeah, you're not You're not selling tickets like that
to students.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
You're admitting students. So you got you know, you.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Have a student section, you have student section, you have
visiting section, and the rest of it is pay customers.
Well you have the recruiting section as well, then the
rest of it is pay customers. But just a real
quick point for me on in terms of the deals
and and how things are unfolding with with the PAC twelve.
As a parent who has a son who's being recruited
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by multiple you know, well pretty much all of the
schools in the pack.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I think it has a.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Profound impact on recruitment too, you know, not just students
wanting to go, not not just enrollment, but just from
the recruiting aspect of it, it's very it's very unnerving.
It's it's it's kind of concerning. If you know, as
a parent, I don't I don't want to send my
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son into a scenario if again, the educational part is
the educational part, But in terms of the play and
whatever team he may may or may not choose to
go go play for what's your future? I think that
that's the biggest thing that's that has developed with the
pack is what's their future. So if I'm recruiting for Arizona,
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if you're planning on leaving, I don't know what your
future is. I'm not sure if it's if it's Utah,
if it's Washington, if it's Oregon, what's the future?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
What like where are you going to be?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
You know, because contrary to what people may or may
not believe, I don't think anybody is sending their kids
and or kids are going with the intentions of planning
on transferring. You know, it's become a trend and it's
become a thing. But I think you got to look
at it from the standpoint of if somebody goes to
a smaller school and they feel like they have the
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opportunity to play at a bigger school. They're going to
use a smaller school to do that to prove that
at the next level. Or you may go to a
bigger school and you may not be as good as
you thought you were and you're going to go to
a smaller school and go from there. But to me,
I think that that's a it's a concern and it's
a question, and I'm certain it's probably impacting recruiting for
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for all these schools, no doubt, and outside of UCLA
and USC because you know where they're going, you know
the future of what they have in front of them.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, And now obviously you're you're in recruiting for people
out there who don't know. You know, you've got a
class that's coming up in twenty twenty four. And it's
probably hard because a lot of these kids commit and
they look to sign in an early period here in
December and enrolled halfway through, like.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
There's there's that portion of things.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Then there's a group who's going to sign and make
their decision in February like it always used to be.
And so it's it's hard if you don't have that
sort of information As a parent as a student athlete
to then want to select Oregon Washington. I mean if
your organ I mean, and they've done an incredible job
with nil and being able to get players in that way.
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But you know, they might have to tap into transfer
portals a little bit more once things are decided, or
they might have to wait with some of their recruits.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So it's a good point.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
It plays role.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
What bothers me is Utah has won the Pac Twelve
the last two years. They have their starting quarterback coming back,
Cam Rising who got injured obviously the Rose Bowl versus
Penn State.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
They've got a lot of talent coming back.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They I mean, they're not discussed enough in my opinion
as far as one of the top teams in the Pac.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Twelve, at least this year for these standards.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Kyle Kyle winning Gams is one of the best, you know,
coaches in college football, and yet they're like a school
like that's getting left by the wayside. Oregon State's gotten
much more competitive, much better under Jonathan.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Smith as their head coach.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You don't hear any conversations about though, like those are
the schools and the players and coaches that, like I
get concerned for because they're like, if you're the I mean,
if you're the PAC twelve, or if you're any of
these other conferences.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
You know, Utah has done a hell of a job.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They haven't had a losing season in the last decade Utah, I.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Mean, think about that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I just that's what bothers me about all this,
you know, as far as the the you know, expansion,
if you want to say, of various conferences or the realignment,
it doesn't bother me because that's just poor leadership and
people make poor decisions, and people make bad decisions.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
And as we.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Talked about, you know, if companies don't adapt in today's world,
our digital world, they usually end up dying, like they
don't survive. And in essence, the PAC twelve never adapted.
They sat on their hands. They thought twenty twenty three
was going to be the year for their media frights
deal and to figure it out, and they got left behind.
And if I'm one of those schools, as much as
you'd want to show loyalty to the PAC twelve, there
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might not be anything there for you. And so I'm
sure there are, Like Utah and Oregon State have to
be on the phone with the Big twelve and Brett Yormark, because.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm not sure that you know.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
If they're not a part of the conversations now with
the Big ten, they're not going to be, and so
you better be finding another place for your teams to go.
Otherwise the only place you may even it can go
to is the Mountain West, and that's going to feel
like you're dropping down out of one of those Power
five conferences as we move more to a Power four.
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Out as we close up shop here on a Thursday morning.
But right now we turn it over to Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer. He is in the midst
of his training camp tour. AB what's happening? How are you?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Just hanging out?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Finished up your tour, didn't you? Ab?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
No, No, no, I've got well. The first one goes
through Tuesday. Usually I start when camps open and then
it cuts off right before the.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
First full weekend the preseason games.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
So I'll, i'll, I've seen about half the league by
the time I get home next week.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Where are you at now, Liberty? You turned the Liberty
out there? Oh the Pacific Northwest this time of here. Man,
it's nice out there.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Oh it's beautiful. I feel like it's almost like a
secret like people don't know.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
But like everything here, it's a weird thing, like where
it rains for like whatever nine months out of the year,
and I feel like when you're up here in the summer,
everything looks fluorescent, you know what I mean, is like glowing.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
It's incredible, and then they roll it up and smoke it.
That's right.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Wow, Albert got to ask you. There are some reports
that you could be in a lum of Ohio state.
So I'm just curious that there's a little bit more
excitement for you to see if all that you've heard
about and all that we've heard about Jackson Smith and
Jigba so far in camp is true there with the
Seattle Seahawks, because apparently he has lit it up so
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far there.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
I mean, he's a really good player.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
I think we knew that, Like, I think the only
question with him was whether or not you know that
the hamstring thing was going to linger, because it was
such a freak thing last year and you're talking to
people over there, it was just they just couldn't get
on top of it.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Over the course of the year.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
And obviously he misses almost the entire season last year.
But you know, he was, you know, as good as
Garrett Wilson and Chrystal Lave in twenty twenty one as
a true sophomore and those two guys both had thousand.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Yard seasons as rookies. You know, so.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Is he the same type as a receivers those who know,
and I think, you know, part of the reason why
maybe he doesn't go as high in the drafts as
the other two is he's a little bit more of
a pure slot. But I don't think anybody who you know,
watched him or evaluated him had any doubt like he
was he was gonna be capable of assimilating to the
m NFL pretty quickly. And you know, I think you're
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going to find that that. You know, again, he may
not be, you know, like the big play threat that
Chrystal Lave or or Garrett Wilson order coming out, but
it's gonna be a hyper productive slot receiver, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And his situation he enters into is one of which
he doesn't have to do it all. I mean, you've
got a lot, You've got Metcalf, and you've got a
team that's going to run the football too, So it's
like he can kind of find his role in it.
But I think he's going to have a huge year.
But that's also assuming Gino is able to replicate what
he did last year.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
How does he look.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean, it's a huge year for him professionally personally
to really solidify himself there as the guy right.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah, And you know there are two things like about
about Geno Brady that really.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Stuck out to me. You know, over the course of
the offseason.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
Number One, like he believed that this is who he was,
you know, the last five years. Like he thought like
it was just a matter of him getting a chance
and like that, you know, things had gotten so sideways
with the Jets, and the circumstance was so weird and
different of him, you know, winding up out there, and
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you know, well, he just needed a chance to develop
and when that happened, he was he was going to
be a really good player, and we saw that last
year obviously, and then the second piece of it is,
you know, just the level of commitment, which you know,
I thought this was a really interesting story. He so,
like last year, after they got eliminated by San Francisco
in the playoffs, you know, everybody goes back and has
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their exit meetings and everything else. Usually guys scattered across
the country. Well, Geno stayed in Seattle for an extra
three weeks because he wanted to sort of have the
experience of working through when the Super Bowl is and
he wanted to go back and look at, you know,
what went wrong, what went right over the course of
the year. He wanted to get strength and conditioning work in,
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you know, with the with with the strength coaches there
with the team, and he wanted to do all this
stuff before he went back to South Florida to do
you know, his off season quarterback training, you know, and
then you know, a little later in the off season.
You know, a lot of a lot of quarterbacks will
do like these big quarterback camps, right like Holmes says
one in Dallas, and you know, Josh Allen did one
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in California, I believe, right, like so that's pretty common. Well,
Gino did his a little bit differently, where he went
and visited each other of his receivers individual and got
one on one work with them, with the idea of
being that he wanted to build chemistry with them individually
and wanted to kind of know what they like and
what they didn't like about the twenty twenty two seasons.
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So I think, you know, a lot of people get
stuck on what.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
You know was with the Jets.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
And I'm not saying he's suddenly going to become Mahomes
or Alan or Burrow, but you know, I think you
see a very mature player, a guy who's driven, and
a guy who seems to be doing a lot of
the right things to follow up with what was obviously
a really good season in.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
You have you heard anything about I mean, I'm certain
DeShawn won't play much, but will he play any tonight?
And if what are they hoping to see tonight? Like,
what are the storylines that maybe fans should be paying
attention to?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Yees?
Speaker 8 (22:45):
So I don't think you see the Sean you know,
and for most teams that play in this game, it's
an extra preseason game, so it's sort of used as
an evaluation tool for the guys further down on your
off sure, you know, and you and especially for teams
that have, like, you know, joint practices, and I believe
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both the Jets and Browns have sets of joint practices
coming up. I think the Jets are practicing with the
I can't remember the Jets are practicing with, but that
I know. The Browns are practicing with the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
I believe next week.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
So I don't think he'll see many stars. To me,
like the most interesting storyline might be Zach Wilson tonight,
you know, because I think you know, the ability to
to learn behind Aaron Rodgers through the spring and into
the early parts of camp and you know, maybe get
a year or two to sit and reset could be
really good for him, you know.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
So you know, everything you heard.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
Out of the Jets building, you know, going all the
way back to Sebruary when they started considering training for
Rogers and then making the run at Rogers, everything you
heard about about Zach Wilson was, you know, he's really
excited about the idea of working with Aaron.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Rodgers, and he's been humbled a little bit.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
He's he's really trying to kind of evaluate what went
wrong over the first two years of the career, and
so to me like that, probably the most interesting storyline
going into tonight is what Zach Wilson looks like as
a former second overall tack.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert, you just left Atlanta and
now you're in Seattle, obviously to see the Seahawks. But
we were talking earlier about Arthur Blank publicly backing Desmond
Ritter as his quarterback of the future, Desmond Ridder responding,
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it feels like they've got a bunch of out there
on offense. He's a real question mark. What was your
takeaway from seeing them?
Speaker 8 (24:39):
Well, I mean, I first of the Ritterer thing, I
just think so I think Arthur Smith and Terry font
have sort of made a conscious decision that unless they're
completely sold that a guy can be the guy that
gets them into that exclusive club like the Cincinnati and
Buffalo and Kansas City you're in, like that level of core.
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They're not going to go all out like they're not
going to sell out to go get Derek Carr, you know,
so I think they feel better at least treading Water
was a guy who they like, who's younger, who's cheaper, who.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Had some upside.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
So I don't know they're convinced that he's going to
be the quarterback for the next ten years, but they
like him as a player, and you know, like this
this gives them a chance to build the roster and
other places. I think what's fascinating about the about the
Falcons is if you if you look at the way
they're built, you know, they have a bunch of guys
who can play a bunch of different positions on offense,
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and when they break the huddle, you don't know where
the five skill guys are going.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
And I know, you know, Arthur Smith was a big
fan of it.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
It's going to sound weird, a big fan of the
way that the Warriors were built, you know, you know,
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, this whole idea of position was
basketball and how hard they were to play against her opponents.
And that's how they've sort of built the Falcons offense.
You know, with Jeon who you can move them around
Kyle Pittch you can move them around Drake one, and
(26:03):
you can move them around even like a Quarterell Patterson
is a veteran, you can play him a multiple different spots.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
I really like the way that they're building competition on
the roster and the way they're building versatility onto that roster.
And so you know, again, like you know, I know
a lot of it's going to come down to the
quarterback and how farking Desmond rut or take them and
everything else. But because you know they've sort of you know,
hit the pause button on quarterback and said, you know,
we're going to wait for the right opportunity to get
(26:33):
it right at quarterback, it's sort of freed them up
to build in a really really interesting way.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Albert.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I want to ask you about some of your other stops.
I believe you're at the Bengals camp as well. You
weren't there when when Joey b went down?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Were you?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
No?
Speaker 7 (26:46):
I was there a couple of days after, okay, And.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
What's their sentiment and feeling on the injury. And then
the other team I'm really interested in is the Titans.
I believe you're there as well, which they get d
hop Tannehills played really well during the course of the preseason,
but it seems like with the will Leves draft pick
and Milk Willis the year before, like they're trying to
kind of push him out.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Right, Sure, so yeah, on the Bengals, I'd say, you know,
I think that that and this is based on like
timelines with other players, but you know, like I know
other players that had similar injuries to the cat strain
that that Joe suffered.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
It's like a four to six week injury.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
And you know, but I didn't sense much concern that
he's going to be out for the opener. I don't
think you'll see him for a couple more weeks. But
I my sense was coming out of there, he's a
fast heeler.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Now this is a little different.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
One thing that was kind of explaining to me is,
you know, obviously it's much different than the appenduce site
is last year, and it's even different than the ACL.
You know, it's just he hasn't gone through this type
of injury, but he's typically a fast heeler. As for
the Titans, yeah, I mean it's an interesting spot there, mean,
because you know, they felt like going in with a
new general manager and Rank Carson, and they had to
(27:58):
reset the cap a little and there was some age
in their roster, and they changed a bunch of things,
and I think the one thing that they are leaning
on to carry them through. And you can see it
the way the Brady I mean, I you know, like
it's it.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I mean, it's not what practice was.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
It's not a football practice was in the NFL fifteen
years ago, but it's probably the closest thing.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
You know, the identity is still there.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
And I you know, I talked to Ryan a little bit,
you know, at the end of their practice, and he's
super motivated. I mean, he's going into a contract year.
He knows the score, you know, he knows that they've
drafted two guys in the top hundred picks the last
two years into his room, and you know, I think
he's he's he's primed for a really good year and
(28:44):
he's really you know what's interesting is I think a
lot of people have sort of realized this, but they're
changing sort of schematically what they're doing offensively a little
bit too, and going to more of like from what
had been like a Shanahan style of offense to a
little bit more of like the Bill O'Brien Patriots type
of offense with Tim Kelly being the offensive coordinator, and
Tannehill feels like that's going to bring out the best
(29:05):
in him because it's going to give him a little
bit more control. You know what happens at the line,
so you know, I know you're going to see a
motivated run and I think I think I think he's
going to be the quarterback this year. I don't think
Lebster Willis will overtake.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Him, and that'll give him a leg up too on
the younger quarterbacks who are getting into the NFL is
trying to learn a system that that aren't going to
be as comfortable with what they're seeing out there as
Tannehill will be with all his experience. So it plays
an advantage too with with the next guy maybe nipping
on a seals or not in this case, right right.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Yeah, I mean I certainly you know, and I'm gray
you played in that offense, you know, and Tim Kelly,
they're off the coordinator, like worked under Bill O'Bryan a bunch,
which are where he learned it. But it's absolutely more
mentally demanding on the on the quarterback that than the
Shanahan offenses.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I love that offense.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Albert Wee followup real quick, I know we're up against it.
Just your thoughts on the Big Ten everything that's happening
right now. I know you've tweeted a little bit about it,
so I'm curious to get your thoughts on what you're
seeing in college football.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Doesn't it feel like does it feel like the Big
Tens just eating the Pac twelve and now we're going
to have like the Big Ten championship games can be
like the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Look literally eating the pack.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I kind of feel like the Pac twelve was more
like starving itself and the Big Ten was like, hey,
here's some food and then everyone came running, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I kind of feel like that's a little more of
the way I describe it.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
I mean, I don't know. I guess it's natural evolution.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
And everything else, but it's just it's like, I don't know,
like I really at the end of all of this,
like I don't know who really wins, you know what
I mean? Like obviously the television networks and there are
a lot of people who can get rich out of this,
But I'm just not sure, Like are the schools winners?
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Are the players winners? Are the fans winners?
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Like? Is this better than what we've had?
Speaker 7 (30:55):
And maybe I'm stuck.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In traditional He sounds scared. Sounds like you're scared to
get like in there and Washington.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Are you scared of going on the road?
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Who would be? Who would who in the world be
scared of?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I'm just I'm asking like you sound like you're like,
I don't know, I'm a traditionalist.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't really want that long I am. Are you
for it?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Zone changes? I just I don't know. It is a
long ass flight. It's a long flight out.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
I will say, I will say I feel bad for
like the field hockey players who are gonna be like
schlepping throw hair on a Tuesday in October.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I mean, I mean, aren't they already doing that anyway?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It o hair?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Like would you think that it's it's it's going to
be like when they're connecting another odd airports trying to
like make it to the West Coast.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
I mean, I just can't imagine.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I don't you see, I don't even know the answer
to this, Brad, do you would know the answer to this?
What are you two, like, do what the revenue sports?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
No, in most cases they'll fly commercial, right, So I
would take a bus.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I mean, I mean, I mean, like, how does all right?
So Arizona goes to Big twelve? Like, how how do
you get from Tucson to Morgantown.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well you might be able to fly direct a pit.
If you can't, you're going to connect once there and
drive from.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Pitt Right, so you can fly like Tucson to like DFW,
DFW to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
And then like driving a bus for an hour.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, Hey, Albert, Albert, welcome to my weekly travel for
Big Noon Kickoff Pale. That's usually how where it's it's
it's two flights in a drive mostly.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Yeah, but you don't have like psychology one on one
at seven am the next morning.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Right, Well, no, I've.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Actually had an NBA I've been working on, so I
would like to think it.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
So, yeah, how about them apples?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
How about them apples?
Speaker 7 (32:38):
That stepped right?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah you did, Yeah, Albert, we appreciate it. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Enjoy your time there in Seattle. I scot out the
place because maybe Ohio State don't have to be playing
Washington in a couple of years out.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
There, right, that's right, that's right, guys.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I'm coming to you live from Big ten Country.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Deer would be big ted country. Huh.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Go touch a salmon, go catch a big fish or something.
All right, good talking to you there. It is Albert
Breer on a nice clean phone line out in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
There, good good service there.
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Speaker 10 (35:05):
It's August third, so that means a very happy birthday
to the likes of Martha Stewart, James Hetfield from Metallica,
Tony Bennett Rip, Tom Brady the Goat, and Zach Wilson,
who starts tonight.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Happy birthday, birthday.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
To all those people their birthday.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
So Tom Brady turns what forty six and we think
he's done right?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, he just announced he's also part of her soccer team.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Personally.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, which which soccer team is he a part of?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Who cares?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I kind of Birmingham City?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Are you just saying that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's what the Chris Raphet's holding Birmingham City. Yeah that
is crazy. Again, I'm a USFL guy, so I think
Birmingham Stallions. But again, some people are different. Some people
like soccer, some people like football. I'm a football guy.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Well that is football.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, it's not not really like literally you use your
foot to hit a ball.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Okay, Well I'm just saying I mean I guess we
could call you know, hockey they kicked the puck sometimes,
you know, like, what are we going to call that
puckball as well? Toot foot puck you know what I mean, Like,
you can use your feet for a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, so that's not it's not like an in or out, dude,
that's just like a birthday thing, right, Yeah, But I
was like, what are we doing the show?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I'm in their birthdays. I'm into their birthdays. I'm in
on their birth There you go, there you go.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Some you know, we always talk about these national days,
and some of them are pretty lame, but some of
them speak, you know, right to the heart of some
of us.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
And that would be the National I p A Day.
It's National i PA Day. Congrats Brady, Brady, I know
this is what you're in on.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
So I hate IPAs.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Why do you? Okay, why do you hate IPAs? What
is it about?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm not as big of a fan of the flavor.
One of the last times I got served, some would
say overserved.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I mean, it was a long day of drinking, but
it did not end well, I'll put it that way.
I was I was throwing up and.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I was shirtless years ago before I had kids. But
I literally it was just it was just a bad
scenario and.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It was all off. What's that? Did you still have
the bangs? The bangs? Didn't you have bangs like when
you were like ripped up and yoked up? First off?
Like the Beatles, Bang hit the button, Chris, I mean
that's just that's.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Just because I'm white, I have bangs.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I don't think he would.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
First off, it was more of a flow bucket. That's
what it is, Okay, But cultural differences there, huh?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Did Yeah? No, I did not use to flow be
all right? Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I polished off the night with a number of I
p A s from a good friend, Sean Thornton, former
NHL player now doing a great job the front office
with the Florida Panthers, and uh, it did not end
well that night for me.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
I was hosing down myself in the car at that point.
That's I have to break up with beer. So I'm out.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I will bears or beer beer, and that's how I
know you're from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Beer.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
I'll enjoy an I p A with you, guys, as
well as maybe some barnuts because it's national grab some
nuts day.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Just you guys are out on barnuts.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Out disgusting if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I mean, if it's a fresh batch. But when they
just keep reusing, I'm on.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
J you soft boy hands, Loation boy hand touching, no.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Bar nuts, Chris, We're going to take that.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Here.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I get a tackle rate.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Loation boy hands racist, soft baby.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
But racist.
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We'll be talking a little bit more about that. At
some point we did some over unders. Who got Jets,
Who got Browns? The NFL is back, and apparently, while
the NFL is just now returning, expansion in college football
continues to rage on. It's a feeding frenzy of the
Pac twelve, and apparently the Big Ten has started to
look into this a little bit as well. To that,
according to Yahoo Sports, that the Big Ten has identified
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teams such as Oregon, Washington, Cal and Stanford as potential
targets for the conference, and that the Big Ten released
a statement saying the following quote. The Big Ten Conference
is still focused on integration of USC and UCLA, but
it's also the commissioner's job to keep conference chancellors and
presidents informed about new developments as they occur. So we
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could be on the verge of the PAC twelve. Just
man up in Vanish like a fart in the wind,
and no more Pac twelve conferences. Everybody's moving around. Let's
speed this up.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This isn't born out of the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Though, Let's just be clear about why this topic of
discussion is even happening, and this is this has more
to do with the fact that the PAC twelve schools
are looking to try to find some way of staying
competitive and specifically economically right, and so of course the
(02:37):
Big Ten is willing to hear out high academic schools
like Whole Stun Food or Cow or whoever else, but
also brands like Oregon and Washington that would help make
the conference more competitive. But I'll keep hearkening back to this.
This is all driven off of the TV rights media
(02:58):
deal that the Pack twelve has yet to release, but
as we know now what it most likely is looking
like it's going to be a deal maybe with Apple,
who would tier this based on subscriptions and that model.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
It scares every single PAC twelve school.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Enough to want them to move and look to go
to a different conference where they know exactly what that
revenue model is going to be. I mean, for schools
that have been well established for a while now, the
last thing they want is some sort of radical change.
And I know it feels like moving to the Big
Ten for those West Coast schools would be a radical change.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
But what would ultimately be.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
A radical change, especially coming out of a year in
COVID where every single universe or institution saw a hit
in the revenue they were able to generate. It would
be millions and millions of dollars not coming in from
the TV rights media deals that they're.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Accustomed to having.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And that's essentially what's going to happen with the Pac
twelve media rights. And it's why they haven't announced it
because they can't because they know these schools whatever so
far has been discussed and thrown out there and talked
about because I'm sure the schools, you know, the presidents,
the athletic directors have said, what's the number? Like what
you can't ask us to commit to a conference if
(04:22):
we don't know what these numbers are. And so I'm
sure what they've seen has caused them or scared them
enough to say, we have to have discussions with the
Big twelve. If your Colorado and Arizona, which will be
the next team to move, we have to have these
discussions with the Big ten if you're cal Stanford, Oregon,
Washington in order to find a safe place to go.
(04:45):
So this is all born out of the PAC twelve
media rights. We seem to have harped on this now
for probably a couple of weeks. You've heard Petros and
myself kind of key on it. You know, Limousine Larry
is partially to blame, I guess obviously the university presidence,
which Petros really kind of laid out there, partially to
blame with the lack of prioritization they gave to sports
(05:08):
football specifically. And this is what's going to happen. The
Big Ten's not going to let these four schools in,
at least not with a full revenue share. Okay, if
these four schools enter the Big Ten, they will most
likely take fifty percent fifty percent of what they were
(05:31):
whatever the school makes. And the hard thing is is
you have to ask yourself, are those four brands in Stanford,
cal Oregon, Washington?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Are they important.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Enough to Fox and CBS and NBC since that's who's
going to be part of the distribution of these brands
of these games. Are they important enough to move the needle?
And can they get any more money out? Because because
the deal's the deal as it stands right now. Now
now Big ten can go back to the media, you know,
partners and try to figure figure how this is going
(06:04):
to work. But I don't know that the TV you know,
the TV networks are overly ecstatic about bringing in more
brands unless they feel like they can rate and allow
them to drive more advertising revenue. And you have to
think that schools outside like Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State,
you know, some of the bigger schools, I don't know
(06:25):
that they care quite as much. I think it's the
smaller schools that probably would vote against it. You know,
in Indiana, Rutgers, Illinois, like they might be seeing themselves.
Why do we want to let schools that we're going
to be direct competition with are gonna make it harder
for us to try to have a shot of winning
a Big Ten if they're not going to bring in
a ton of additional revenue. And the only schools that
(06:48):
really do that are USC and UCLA. That's why they're
in the Big ten already. So you know, I'll be
curious to see if this gets done. But as Zona
looks to leave to the Big twelve, it's just setting
up the dominoes to fall, and eventually I would think
that those other four probably makes sense going to the
(07:08):
Big I think from a scheduling standpoint, and for all
the sports outside of football, like the Olympic sports and
even basketball for that matter, it probably makes it a
little easier because you can start having, you know, a
West Coast trip for a week or two for these
student athletes where you're playing some games against some of
those West Coast schools.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
And then you're going back. You're not just going out
for a.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Usc UCLA matchup to help kind of offset maybe some
of the budgetary concerns that some of these schools have.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I would imagine Oregon Washington would be the two you'd
want if you're the Big ten. If you were going
to accept two of the four.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Well you're probably going to accept all four if you do.
And reason being is, you know, the university presidents still
play a role in all of this. They vote on this,
and they do look at the academic standards of a
school like Stunfood and Cal and the public institution that
it is, and obviously you know, they look at the
(08:03):
excellence behind all of that.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
I mean, they care about that stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like meanwhile, like their football program is what's going to
drive revenue and make a lot of students who you
don't want to be around it, Like id I kind
of compare it to like Silicon Valley, right like when
Golden State started to get good, Like Silicon Valley offusly
has kind of been what it's been.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
For a while now.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
But look at how many like look at how many
fans there are of the Golden State Warriors, especially with
the run of success they had with Steph and you know,
Steve Kerr and that whole crew, Draymond and Clay Kevin
Durant when he was there, Like it became like a
thing for Silicon Valley, right, Like it was easier to
probably recruit people in general because the benefits and the
companies they're working for. But it helps when you've got
(08:50):
bomb teams that are out there and the forty nine
ers in the success they'll have, or the Giants or
whoever else. It always helps to have that as part
of your work environment. Like everyone loves the root for
a winner. Everyone loves to root for a team and
have success and see success, and so all those things
start to parlay into one another. I think like Nick
Sabon and Alabama have done that better than anyone else.
(09:11):
Go look at the increased rate of applicants and the
standard of applicants. Since he's gotten there, they've had success.
It's a cool place to be. It's a cool place
to be. People love going there because of the success
they have. It's impacted the local economy Athens, Georgia's is
obviously gonna be the same way too.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Like that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
People love being around success, whether you are a part
of it as an athlete or not. And so that's
what I always I always feel like university presidents probably
don't really get the most and some do, but most
of them don't understand the impact of sports and how
that parlays into academia and how it helps.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And it's the high time that really does raise all boats.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I mean, majority of the one hundred thousand people that
show up to these games, like those are students of
the university. I mean there's fans that will appear, but
those are students of the university and just the atmosphere
of the presentation that.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Is the majority.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
That's not true.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I mean, yeah, think about Notre Dame for example, the
stadium selections, the stadium sits like eighty thousand, right, the
student body of undergrads on eight thousand, so you don't
have one tenth of that stadium is filled up with students.
It's usually alumni, it's it's business and corporate partners, it's fans.
Like I would say, that's probably more of the norm.
I mean, student sections are big, but when you talk
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about hundred thousand people, you know, you don't you don't
have that many going to school at that time.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Even Ohio State for example, it's a big school.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
But yeah, you're not You're not selling tickets like that
to students.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
You're admitting students. So you got you know, you.
Speaker 6 (10:49):
Have a student section, you have student section, you have
visiting section, and the rest of it is pay customers.
Well you have the recruiting section as well, then the
rest of it is pay customers. But just a real
quick point for me on in terms of the deals
and and how things are unfolding with with the PAC twelve.
As a parent who has a son who's being recruited
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by multiple you know, well pretty much all of the
schools in the pack.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
I think it has a.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
Profound impact on recruitment too, you know, not just students
wanting to go, not not just enrollment, but just from
the recruiting aspect of it, it's very it's very unnerving.
It's it's it's kind of concerning. If you know, as
a parent, I don't I don't want to send my
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son into a scenario if again, the educational part is
the educational part, But in terms of the play and
whatever team he may may or may not choose to
go go play for what's your future? I think that
that's the biggest thing that's that has developed with the
pack is what's their future. So if I'm recruiting for Arizona,
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if you're planning on leaving, I don't know what your
future is. I'm not sure if it's if it's Utah,
if it's Washington, if it's Oregon, what's the future?
Speaker 5 (12:16):
What like where are you going to be?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
You know, because contrary to what people may or may
not believe, I don't think anybody is sending their kids
and or kids are going with the intentions of planning
on transferring. You know, it's become a trend and it's
become a thing. But I think you got to look
at it from the standpoint of if somebody goes to
a smaller school and they feel like they have the
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opportunity to play at a bigger school. They're going to
use a smaller school to do that to prove that
at the next level. Or you may go to a
bigger school and you may not be as good as
you thought you were and you're going to go to
a smaller school and go from there. But to me,
I think that that's a it's a concern and it's
a question, and I'm certain it's probably impacting recruiting for
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for all these schools, no doubt, and outside of UCLA
and USC because you know where they're going, you know
the future of what they have in front of them.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, And now obviously you're you're in recruiting for people
out there who don't know. You know, you've got a
class that's coming up in twenty twenty four. And it's
probably hard because a lot of these kids commit and
they look to sign in an early period here in
December and enrolled halfway through, like.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
There's there's that portion of things.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Then there's a group who's going to sign and make
their decision in February like it always used to be.
And so it's it's hard if you don't have that
sort of information As a parent as a student athlete
to then want to select Oregon Washington. I mean if
your organ I mean, and they've done an incredible job
with nil and being able to get players in that way.
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But you know, they might have to tap into transfer
portals a little bit more once things are decided, or
they might have to wait with some of their recruits.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So it's a good point.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
It plays role.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
What bothers me is Utah has won the Pac Twelve
the last two years. They have their starting quarterback coming back,
Cam Rising who got injured obviously the Rose Bowl versus
Penn State.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
They've got a lot of talent coming back.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They I mean, they're not discussed enough in my opinion
as far as one of the top teams in the Pac.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
Twelve, at least this year for these standards.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Kyle Kyle winning Gams is one of the best, you know,
coaches in college football, and yet they're like a school
like that's getting left by the wayside. Oregon State's gotten
much more competitive, much better under Jonathan.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Smith as their head coach.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
You don't hear any conversations about though, like those are
the schools and the players and coaches that, like I
get concerned for because they're like, if you're the I mean,
if you're the PAC twelve, or if you're any of
these other conferences.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
You know, Utah has done a hell of a job.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
They haven't had a losing season in the last decade Utah, I.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
Mean, think about that.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So I just that's what bothers me about all this,
you know, as far as the the you know, expansion,
if you want to say, of various conferences or the realignment,
it doesn't bother me because that's just poor leadership and
people make poor decisions, and people make bad decisions.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
And as we.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Talked about, you know, if companies don't adapt in today's world,
our digital world, they usually end up dying, like they
don't survive. And in essence, the PAC twelve never adapted.
They sat on their hands. They thought twenty twenty three
was going to be the year for their media frights
deal and to figure it out, and they got left behind.
And if I'm one of those schools, as much as
you'd want to show loyalty to the PAC twelve, there
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might not be anything there for you. And so I'm
sure there are, Like Utah and Oregon State have to
be on the phone with the Big twelve and Brett Yormark, because.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I'm not sure that you know.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
If they're not a part of the conversations now with
the Big ten, they're not going to be, and so
you better be finding another place for your teams to go.
Otherwise the only place you may even it can go
to is the Mountain West, and that's going to feel
like you're dropping down out of one of those Power
five conferences as we move more to a Power four.
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Speaker 4 (17:05):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. Coming up twenty minutes from now, we are
going to have another edition of You In and You
Out as we close up shop here on a Thursday morning.
But right now we turn it over to Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer. He is in the midst
of his training camp tour. AB what's happening? How are you?
Speaker 7 (17:25):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Just hanging out?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Finished up your tour, didn't you? Ab?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
No, No, no, I've got well. The first one goes
through Tuesday. Usually I start when camps open and then
it cuts off right before the.
Speaker 7 (17:41):
First full weekend the preseason games.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
So I'll, i'll, I've seen about half the league by
the time I get home next week.
Speaker 5 (17:48):
Where are you at now, Liberty? You turned the Liberty
out there? Oh the Pacific Northwest this time of here. Man,
it's nice out there.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Oh it's beautiful. I feel like it's almost like a
secret like people don't know.
Speaker 8 (18:01):
But like everything here, it's a weird thing, like where
it rains for like whatever nine months out of the year,
and I feel like when you're up here in the summer,
everything looks fluorescent, you know what I mean, is like glowing.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
It's incredible, and then they roll it up and smoke it.
That's right.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Wow, Albert got to ask you. There are some reports
that you could be in a lum of Ohio state.
So I'm just curious that there's a little bit more
excitement for you to see if all that you've heard
about and all that we've heard about Jackson Smith and
Jigba so far in camp is true there with the
Seattle Seahawks, because apparently he has lit it up so
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far there.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
I mean, he's a really good player.
Speaker 8 (18:40):
I think we knew that, Like, I think the only
question with him was whether or not you know that
the hamstring thing was going to linger, because it was
such a freak thing last year and you're talking to
people over there, it was just they just couldn't get
on top of it.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Over the course of the year.
Speaker 8 (18:55):
And obviously he misses almost the entire season last year.
But you know, he was, you know, as good as
Garrett Wilson and Chrystal Lave in twenty twenty one as
a true sophomore and those two guys both had thousand.
Speaker 7 (19:11):
Yard seasons as rookies. You know, so.
Speaker 8 (19:14):
Is he the same type as a receivers those who know,
and I think, you know, part of the reason why
maybe he doesn't go as high in the drafts as
the other two is he's a little bit more of
a pure slot. But I don't think anybody who you know,
watched him or evaluated him had any doubt like he
was he was gonna be capable of assimilating to the
m NFL pretty quickly. And you know, I think you're
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going to find that that. You know, again, he may
not be, you know, like the big play threat that
Chrystal Lave or or Garrett Wilson order coming out, but
it's gonna be a hyper productive slot receiver, I think.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And his situation he enters into is one of which
he doesn't have to do it all. I mean, you've
got a lot, You've got Metcalf, and you've got a
team that's going to run the football too, So it's
like he can kind of find his role in it.
But I think he's going to have a huge year.
But that's also assuming Gino is able to replicate what
he did last year.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
How does he look.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I mean, it's a huge year for him professionally personally
to really solidify himself there as the guy right.
Speaker 8 (20:17):
Yeah, And you know there are two things like about
about Geno Brady that really.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Stuck out to me. You know, over the course of
the offseason.
Speaker 8 (20:24):
Number One, like he believed that this is who he was,
you know, the last five years. Like he thought like
it was just a matter of him getting a chance
and like that, you know, things had gotten so sideways
with the Jets, and the circumstance was so weird and
different of him, you know, winding up out there, and
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you know, well, he just needed a chance to develop
and when that happened, he was he was going to
be a really good player, and we saw that last
year obviously, and then the second piece of it is,
you know, just the level of commitment, which you know,
I thought this was a really interesting story. He so,
like last year, after they got eliminated by San Francisco
in the playoffs, you know, everybody goes back and has
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their exit meetings and everything else. Usually guys scattered across
the country. Well, Geno stayed in Seattle for an extra
three weeks because he wanted to sort of have the
experience of working through when the Super Bowl is and
he wanted to go back and look at, you know,
what went wrong, what went right over the course of
the year. He wanted to get strength and conditioning work in,
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you know, with the with with the strength coaches there
with the team, and he wanted to do all this
stuff before he went back to South Florida to do
you know, his off season quarterback training, you know, and
then you know, a little later in the off season.
You know, a lot of a lot of quarterbacks will
do like these big quarterback camps, right like Holmes says
one in Dallas, and you know, Josh Allen did one
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in California, I believe, right, like so that's pretty common. Well,
Gino did his a little bit differently, where he went
and visited each other of his receivers individual and got
one on one work with them, with the idea of
being that he wanted to build chemistry with them individually
and wanted to kind of know what they like and
what they didn't like about the twenty twenty two seasons.
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So I think, you know, a lot of people get
stuck on what.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
You know was with the Jets.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
And I'm not saying he's suddenly going to become Mahomes
or Alan or Burrow, but you know, I think you
see a very mature player, a guy who's driven, and
a guy who seems to be doing a lot of
the right things to follow up with what was obviously
a really good season in.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
You have you heard anything about I mean, I'm certain
DeShawn won't play much, but will he play any tonight?
And if what are they hoping to see tonight? Like,
what are the storylines that maybe fans should be paying
attention to?
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Yees?
Speaker 8 (22:45):
So I don't think you see the Sean you know,
and for most teams that play in this game, it's
an extra preseason game, so it's sort of used as
an evaluation tool for the guys further down on your
off sure, you know, and you and especially for teams
that have, like, you know, joint practices, and I believe
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both the Jets and Browns have sets of joint practices
coming up. I think the Jets are practicing with the
I can't remember the Jets are practicing with, but that
I know. The Browns are practicing with the Eagles.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
I believe next week.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
So I don't think he'll see many stars. To me,
like the most interesting storyline might be Zach Wilson tonight,
you know, because I think you know, the ability to
to learn behind Aaron Rodgers through the spring and into
the early parts of camp and you know, maybe get
a year or two to sit and reset could be
really good for him, you know.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
So you know, everything you heard.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
Out of the Jets building, you know, going all the
way back to Sebruary when they started considering training for
Rogers and then making the run at Rogers, everything you
heard about about Zach Wilson was, you know, he's really
excited about the idea of working with Aaron.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
Rodgers, and he's been humbled a little bit.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
He's he's really trying to kind of evaluate what went
wrong over the first two years of the career, and
so to me like that, probably the most interesting storyline
going into tonight is what Zach Wilson looks like as
a former second overall tack.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer. Albert, you just left Atlanta and
now you're in Seattle, obviously to see the Seahawks. But
we were talking earlier about Arthur Blank publicly backing Desmond
Ritter as his quarterback of the future, Desmond Ridder responding,
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it feels like they've got a bunch of out there
on offense. He's a real question mark. What was your
takeaway from seeing them?
Speaker 8 (24:39):
Well, I mean, I first of the Ritterer thing, I
just think so I think Arthur Smith and Terry font
have sort of made a conscious decision that unless they're
completely sold that a guy can be the guy that
gets them into that exclusive club like the Cincinnati and
Buffalo and Kansas City you're in, like that level of core.
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They're not going to go all out like they're not
going to sell out to go get Derek Carr, you know,
so I think they feel better at least treading Water
was a guy who they like, who's younger, who's cheaper, who.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Had some upside.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
So I don't know they're convinced that he's going to
be the quarterback for the next ten years, but they
like him as a player, and you know, like this
this gives them a chance to build the roster and
other places. I think what's fascinating about the about the
Falcons is if you if you look at the way
they're built, you know, they have a bunch of guys
who can play a bunch of different positions on offense,
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and when they break the huddle, you don't know where
the five skill guys are going.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
And I know, you know, Arthur Smith was a big
fan of it.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
It's going to sound weird, a big fan of the
way that the Warriors were built, you know, you know,
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, this whole idea of position was
basketball and how hard they were to play against her opponents.
And that's how they've sort of built the Falcons offense.
You know, with Jeon who you can move them around
Kyle Pittch you can move them around Drake one, and
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you can move them around even like a Quarterell Patterson
is a veteran, you can play him a multiple different spots.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You know.
Speaker 8 (26:11):
I really like the way that they're building competition on
the roster and the way they're building versatility onto that roster.
And so you know, again, like you know, I know
a lot of it's going to come down to the
quarterback and how farking Desmond rut or take them and
everything else. But because you know they've sort of you know,
hit the pause button on quarterback and said, you know,
we're going to wait for the right opportunity to get
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it right at quarterback, it's sort of freed them up
to build in a really really interesting way.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Albert.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I want to ask you about some of your other stops.
I believe you're at the Bengals camp as well. You
weren't there when when Joey b went down?
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Were you?
Speaker 5 (26:46):
No?
Speaker 7 (26:46):
I was there a couple of days after, okay, And.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
What's their sentiment and feeling on the injury. And then
the other team I'm really interested in is the Titans.
I believe you're there as well, which they get d
hop Tannehills played really well during the course of the preseason,
but it seems like with the will Leves draft pick
and Milk Willis the year before, like they're trying to
kind of push him out.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Right, Sure, so yeah, on the Bengals, I'd say, you know,
I think that that and this is based on like
timelines with other players, but you know, like I know
other players that had similar injuries to the cat strain
that that Joe suffered.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
It's like a four to six week injury.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
And you know, but I didn't sense much concern that
he's going to be out for the opener. I don't
think you'll see him for a couple more weeks. But
I my sense was coming out of there, he's a
fast heeler.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Now this is a little different.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
You know.
Speaker 8 (27:34):
One thing that was kind of explaining to me is,
you know, obviously it's much different than the appenduce site
is last year, and it's even different than the ACL.
You know, it's just he hasn't gone through this type
of injury, but he's typically a fast heeler. As for
the Titans, yeah, I mean it's an interesting spot there, mean,
because you know, they felt like going in with a
new general manager and Rank Carson, and they had to
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reset the cap a little and there was some age
in their roster, and they changed a bunch of things,
and I think the one thing that they are leaning
on to carry them through. And you can see it
the way the Brady I mean, I you know, like
it's it.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I mean, it's not what practice was.
Speaker 8 (28:14):
It's not a football practice was in the NFL fifteen
years ago, but it's probably the closest thing.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
You know, the identity is still there.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
And I you know, I talked to Ryan a little bit,
you know, at the end of their practice, and he's
super motivated. I mean, he's going into a contract year.
He knows the score, you know, he knows that they've
drafted two guys in the top hundred picks the last
two years into his room, and you know, I think
he's he's he's primed for a really good year and
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he's really you know what's interesting is I think a
lot of people have sort of realized this, but they're
changing sort of schematically what they're doing offensively a little
bit too, and going to more of like from what
had been like a Shanahan style of offense to a
little bit more of like the Bill O'Brien Patriots type
of offense with Tim Kelly being the offensive coordinator, and
Tannehill feels like that's going to bring out the best
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in him because it's going to give him a little
bit more control. You know what happens at the line,
so you know, I know you're going to see a
motivated run and I think I think I think he's
going to be the quarterback this year. I don't think
Lebster Willis will overtake.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Him, and that'll give him a leg up too on
the younger quarterbacks who are getting into the NFL is
trying to learn a system that that aren't going to
be as comfortable with what they're seeing out there as
Tannehill will be with all his experience. So it plays
an advantage too with with the next guy maybe nipping
on a seals or not in this case, right right.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
Yeah, I mean I certainly you know, and I'm gray
you played in that offense, you know, and Tim Kelly,
they're off the coordinator, like worked under Bill O'Bryan a bunch,
which are where he learned it. But it's absolutely more
mentally demanding on the on the quarterback that than the
Shanahan offenses.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Yeah, I love that offense.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Albert Wee followup real quick, I know we're up against it.
Just your thoughts on the Big Ten everything that's happening
right now. I know you've tweeted a little bit about it,
so I'm curious to get your thoughts on what you're
seeing in college football.
Speaker 8 (30:04):
Doesn't it feel like does it feel like the Big
Tens just eating the Pac twelve and now we're going
to have like the Big Ten championship games can be
like the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Look literally eating the pack.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I kind of feel like the Pac twelve was more
like starving itself and the Big Ten was like, hey,
here's some food and then everyone came running, you know.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
I kind of feel like that's a little more of
the way I describe it.
Speaker 7 (30:27):
I mean, I don't know. I guess it's natural evolution.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
And everything else, but it's just it's like, I don't know,
like I really at the end of all of this,
like I don't know who really wins, you know what
I mean? Like obviously the television networks and there are
a lot of people who can get rich out of this,
But I'm just not sure, Like are the schools winners?
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Are the players winners? Are the fans winners?
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Like? Is this better than what we've had?
Speaker 7 (30:55):
And maybe I'm stuck.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
In traditional He sounds scared. Sounds like you're scared to
get like in there and Washington.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Are you scared of going on the road?
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Who would be? Who would who in the world be
scared of?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I'm just I'm asking like you sound like you're like,
I don't know, I'm a traditionalist.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I don't really want that long I am. Are you
for it?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Zone changes? I just I don't know. It is a
long ass flight. It's a long flight out.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
I will say, I will say I feel bad for
like the field hockey players who are gonna be like
schlepping throw hair on a Tuesday in October.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I mean, I mean, aren't they already doing that anyway?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It o hair?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Like would you think that it's it's it's going to
be like when they're connecting another odd airports trying to
like make it to the West Coast.
Speaker 8 (31:38):
I mean, I just can't imagine.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
I don't you see, I don't even know the answer
to this, Brad, do you would know the answer to this?
What are you two, like, do what the revenue sports?
Speaker 1 (31:49):
No, in most cases they'll fly commercial, right, So I
would take a bus.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
I mean, I mean, I mean, like, how does all right?
So Arizona goes to Big twelve? Like, how how do
you get from Tucson to Morgantown.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Well you might be able to fly direct a pit.
If you can't, you're going to connect once there and
drive from.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Pitt Right, so you can fly like Tucson to like DFW,
DFW to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
And then like driving a bus for an hour.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, Hey, Albert, Albert, welcome to my weekly travel for
Big Noon Kickoff Pale. That's usually how where it's it's
it's two flights in a drive mostly.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
Yeah, but you don't have like psychology one on one
at seven am the next morning.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Right, Well, no, I've.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Actually had an NBA I've been working on, so I
would like to think it.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
So, yeah, how about them apples?
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (32:37):
How about them apples?
Speaker 7 (32:38):
That stepped right?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah you did, Yeah, Albert, we appreciate it. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breers, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Enjoy your time there in Seattle. I scot out the
place because maybe Ohio State don't have to be playing
Washington in a couple of years out.
Speaker 7 (32:54):
There, right, that's right, that's right, guys.
Speaker 8 (32:56):
I'm coming to you live from Big ten Country.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Deer would be big ted country. Huh.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Go touch a salmon, go catch a big fish or something.
All right, good talking to you there. It is Albert
Breer on a nice clean phone line out in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
There, good good service there.
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Speaker 4 (35:02):
There out all right?
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Lead to lap.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
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Speaker 10 (35:05):
It's August third, so that means a very happy birthday
to the likes of Martha Stewart, James Hetfield from Metallica,
Tony Bennett Rip, Tom Brady the Goat, and Zach Wilson,
who starts tonight.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Happy birthday, birthday.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
To all those people their birthday.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
So Tom Brady turns what forty six and we think
he's done right?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, he just announced he's also part of her soccer team.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Personally.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, which which soccer team is he a part of?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Who cares?
Speaker 7 (35:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I kind of Birmingham City?
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Is that it?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Are you just saying that? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
That's what the Chris Raphet's holding Birmingham City. Yeah that
is crazy. Again, I'm a USFL guy, so I think
Birmingham Stallions. But again, some people are different. Some people
like soccer, some people like football. I'm a football guy.
Speaker 7 (35:53):
Well that is football.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Yeah, it's not not really like literally you use your
foot to hit a ball.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Okay, Well I'm just saying I mean I guess we
could call you know, hockey they kicked the puck sometimes,
you know, like, what are we going to call that
puckball as well? Toot foot puck you know what I mean, Like,
you can use your feet for a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, so that's not it's not like an in or out, dude,
that's just like a birthday thing, right, Yeah, But I
was like, what are we doing the show?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
I'm in their birthdays. I'm into their birthdays. I'm in
on their birth There you go, there you go.
Speaker 10 (36:28):
Some you know, we always talk about these national days,
and some of them are pretty lame, but some of
them speak, you know, right to the heart of some
of us.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
And that would be the National I p A Day.
It's National i PA Day. Congrats Brady, Brady, I know
this is what you're in on.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
So I hate IPAs.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Why do you? Okay, why do you hate IPAs? What
is it about?
Speaker 1 (36:48):
I'm not as big of a fan of the flavor.
One of the last times I got served, some would
say overserved.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I mean, it was a long day of drinking, but
it did not end well, I'll put it that way.
I was I was throwing up and.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I was shirtless years ago before I had kids. But
I literally it was just it was just a bad
scenario and.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
It was all off. What's that? Did you still have
the bangs? The bangs? Didn't you have bangs like when
you were like ripped up and yoked up? First off?
Like the Beatles, Bang hit the button, Chris, I mean
that's just that's.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Just because I'm white, I have bangs.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
I don't think he would.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
First off, it was more of a flow bucket. That's
what it is, Okay, But cultural differences there, huh?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Did Yeah? No, I did not use to flow be
all right? Yeah, I had.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I polished off the night with a number of I
p A s from a good friend, Sean Thornton, former
NHL player now doing a great job the front office
with the Florida Panthers, and uh, it did not end
well that night for me.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
I was hosing down myself in the car at that point.
That's I have to break up with beer. So I'm out.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I will bears or beer beer, and that's how I
know you're from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
Beer.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
I'll enjoy an I p A with you, guys, as
well as maybe some barnuts because it's national grab some
nuts day.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Just you guys are out on barnuts.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Out disgusting if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
I mean, if it's a fresh batch. But when they
just keep reusing, I'm on.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
J you soft boy hands, Loation boy hand touching, no.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Bar nuts, Chris, We're going to take that.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Here.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I get a tackle rate.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Loation boy hands racist, soft baby.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
But racist.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
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