August 9, 2023 • 50 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Hard Knocks debuts with eagle/crow analogies and charcuterie boards. Ron Rivera answers for Eric Bieniemy’s tough approach. Plus, The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about conference e realignment and the dismantling of the Pac-12.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a coupled Joe
with Labar airings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The hell's going on, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Not much, man, it's just some hard docks last night,
you can know TV appointment television?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah, did you watch? Yeah? I did.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I got a little bit of an issue going on
right now in studio. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
What's that.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Well, I was trying to use some hand sanitizer, big
hand sanitizer guy, and uh.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I don't think like overusing hand sanitizer is good for you.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Well no, but I just I wanted to use just
a little bit of it and I tried to squirt
it out and I couldn't get.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It to leave the bottle.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
And then I twisted it the other way and it
wasn't working. I went back to the opposite side, and
then it just sprayed all over my laptops. Now I
got sanitizer all over my laptop. We at least it's clean, right, yeah,
first time for everything, you know. Yeah, so it could
have used that your laptop.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thinking about that, My god.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's like it's like watsons that.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, that's my This is my I call this my
Deshaun Watson device, So you just leave me alone. I'd
let that, but hey, it's clean now. So there is that.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You can't create like artificial intelligence that way.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's not exactly how it's created.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
That's not that's how it's done. Yeah, what is it?
Boston Dynamics. Is that where they do it? Harvard Dynamics?
Where do they do that at?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I don't know. Whatever you're doing seems pretty dynamic.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
But so yeah, listen hard knocks one episode in. What
do you think, Brady Quinn You're gonna make it for
episode two or nah? Because I feel like I'm kinda
all right, thank you?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
What can I make an honest envision? Yeah? I didn't
even make it to episode one, so I'll catch up
on it some point.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It look, it's just it's kind of the same old
old it's getting to know everybody. Early on, I thought
they were going to focus more on the Sean Payton stuff.
Rogers was kind of busting Nathaniel Hackett's balls about they
were doing the pylon game at the end of practice,
where you try and hit the pylon. I don't know
if that's something you ever partook in as a quarterback,
(02:18):
but they would try and hit the pilon with the football,
and then you would try and distract the other guys.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Shouted Sean Payton when Nathaniel Hackett was playing, and they
were just kind of giving each other a hard time.
But the one thing I took away from the Nathaniel
Hackett stuff, I could see why players really like him.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like I'm super nice, like energy, magetic.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And it makes sense why Rogers is really supportive of him,
because that seems like a guy you would want to
play for. Like he seems like a fun guy.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
He's super fun, super nice, I mean from all accounts.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And look, there's some guys who they get an opportunity
to be a head coach before they're ready and it
doesn't work out. There's some guys who are just better
position coaches, they're better offensive coordinators. That's that's just that's
what they are, and that's okay. There's there's nothing wrong
with that. And and those guys might get an opportunity
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to be a head coach and when they do, they
might struggle. It's okay, Like failure's okay if you learn
from it and move on from it. And you kind
of figure some things out from it if you just
take it for.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You know, it's it's you're never going to allow yourself
to move past and get better. But you know it's
I think he's got a good reputation from anyone who's
ever coached him as a you know, as an OC,
as a position coach, and people love them. So, uh, look,
I saw some clips from obviously Hard Knocks. I didn't
watch the whole thing. We'll see if I've time to
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do so, but it seems like, you know, there's a
true connection between him and Aaron Rodgers. And if the
Jets have success this year, I personally look at it
and say, it's going to be a large part because
of Nathaniel Hackett, because if Nathaniel Hackett's not there, I
don't know that they get Rodgers, Like I don't know
that Aaron wants to go to the New York Jets.
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I think if I think if Nathaniel Hackett was still
in Denver, they would have tried to make some sort
of move to get Aaron Rodgers of Denver.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Like that's how close I feel like those two are.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, it was really playing out and you could see
Rogers sticking up for him, talking about their relationship, how
it started, how close they are. You know, they're not
that far apart in age, obviously, and so Rogers and him,
you know, needle each other and get on each other,
and you just see sort of how the other players
have rallied around Nathaniel Hackett. So it made all the
sense in the world when you hear that. But we
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do have a little bit of a clip from Hard Knocks.
I would love for you to take a listen to
and tell me how fired up this gets you, because
Robert Sala was speaking to the team and he wanted
to make sure that everybody's minds were in the right places.
So we've got a little something for you to get
you fired up here or maybe not fired up at
all on your Wednesday morning. So Brady Quinn a guy
who sat in rooms hearing speeches from coaches to try
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and get you motivated at it, delware for twenty something
years playing football. Here's Robert Salah talking with his team
last night, courtesy of Hard Knocks on HBO.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
The only bird, the only bird in the world that
will attack an eagle is a crow.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
We'll perch on.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
The eagles back and peck at its neck. So rather
than fight back and tearing a crow to pieces like
it can, the egle spreads its wings and it soars
as high as it possibly can. It keeps going and
going as high as it can. And the higher the
egle flies, the harder it is for the crow to breathe. Eventually,
the crow suffocates, falls back down the earth and dies.
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That's what happens.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
We got a great deal of hyperondis. We do all
kinds of expectations, and with great expectations, we know that
there's going to be a whole lot of people, a
whole lot of crows, expecting us to fall on our
face doing to find that little bit more to get
us closer to being a great teav You finished practice,
not what you finished?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Meetings? Now what lifting? Now what?
Speaker 6 (06:11):
And if we come together and we challenge ourselves to
do a little bit more every day, the crows they'll
fall by themselves.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, got it.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And with the music in the background, now were they
piping in the music in the meeting room while they will?
He was given the speech because that really what it
would have added to it, you know, the whole crow
eagle comparison there. I feel like that would beg or do.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You want to be a crow? You don't want to
be a crow? Right, that was the point of it.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, I think so. But here's what I would say
about crows. Crows get kind of a bad rap they do.
Why don't you ask hawks about crows? Crows go after hawks.
I remember growing up we would always see that if
a hawk was in the in the area trying to
kill one of our pigeons, we knew the crows are
going to take it. You know, they've got a little
gang going on there. So I feel like you kind
of mistressed crows. Yeah, yeah, we had pigeons growing up.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Why not? Not really sure?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But we did.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yes, never never pictured you for a pigeon guy.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Very very smart, like we sent them away.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, and Mike Tyson did that for a while.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
He did, and they got they got out of control.
There was too many of them, and so we.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Said, all right, we gotta thought they were like on
drugs or something, right, don't they hype those things up sometimes?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I don't think that we did unless they got into
if there was like a stash of meth or something
around the house. That somebody might have left out. Maybe
that might have been the case, but I remember we
were trying to get rid of them one time, and
so we put them in a box in this sense,
so inhumane. We put them in a box, and we
were worried about them potentially flying back, so we marked
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their feathers with like a pink highlighter, just thinking, okay,
well we'll see if they come back. And we drove
them out for all the way to Santa Barbara, which
is way up north, like an hour drive. No way
they're going to find their way back. And they found
their way all the way back in a couple of days.
Pretty amazing birds. But who cares to say what was
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the mortal of that story? I don't know, not really sure,
but I figured i'd get my best Robert Solid here
for hard knocks.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Considering, I think you pointed out something that's interesting, Like
anything a coach says under dramatic music can sound.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
No great badass, right, Like do you know what a
what an eagle does? And a crows on its back?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The funny the funny thing about that, thank you, Sam.
The funny thing about those sorts of speeches are all
you're trying to do as a coach is get one
thing that the players can take with them, like one
small little note, anecdote, something to take with them, and.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
That is that was enough.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like there'll be dudes they come out of locker them me,
it gotta be like an eagle, You'll say, Man, gotta
be like an eagle.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
You know, you're so high above it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Like that, that will be the one thing they take
away from the whole crow eagle thing. And it works
and it moves forward and it gets people's attention and
it's it's cool until it's not. Like I feel like
last year there's a lot of those you know, things
that Robert Sala would say and it was like, oh yeah,
and the media loves it, right The media loves Robert
(09:19):
Solin rightfully. So he's a good guy and I think
he's doing you know, he's trying to do the best
job he can as a head coach to get his
team mentally figuring in the right direction. But there's also
an element of there's not there's not always something to
be said, there is always something to be done, there's
not always something to be said, and that's where this
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team is at right now.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Who is the best coach speak you ever got. Who
is the best that if he threw some dramatic music
under him, it'd be even better.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
John Fox gets Kids could give some pretty good pregame speeches.
Jeff Fisher gave some pretty good pregame speeches. I mean
his usual was player. I mean that that's the truth.
It was usually players who would give the best pregame speech.
Brian Dawkins gave some as you know, as a passionate
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speech as you'll ever find from a player, I mean,
just pouring his heart out type speech before games. He's
I mean, he's everything as a Hall of Famer you'd hope,
but like also so much more than that, as like
a man like spiritually everything else he was.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
He was one of the.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Most I don't even know how to describe, like being
around him, just supernatural, like he really was. Like when
you'd see him after games and how beat up he'd be,
and then before the game, the way he'd come out
of the tunnel run out there, I'm like that dude,
that dude just transformed like he was barely able to move,
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and you'd see it every week for sixteen weeks back then,
and you're just like, man, that's impressive.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Now, there was a pretty good back and forth between
some jets.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Linemen, this to me is the Highway.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Do we have this out?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
We do?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
So this is Solomon Thomas talking about potentially going to Broadway,
maybe taking some of his teammates, but wanting to make
sure that they really appreciate it. And then you had
jo John Franklin Myers talking about maybe getting fancy and uh,
this is how it played out last night at HBO.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You know you said you don't want me to do
it to Broadway. I said that because I feel like
you'd be talking during the play and I want you
to respect the performance. Okay, how much Broadway?
Speaker 8 (11:41):
So I want to eat ACiE board.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Car or Cucci board. What did he call it? I
don't know, it's Coeri if I if I believe that
I have the yeah to.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Carcucci board Caracucci. I mean, that's the thing about a locker,
you love though. You get a lot of guys who
you know, come from places and backgrounds that they're not
as exposed to stuff, and and like you know, they're
they're getting exposed to more things and it's cool.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I mean, that is That's one of.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
The cooler things about like hanging out different teammates is
like see like they get this.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
You get to experience stuff with them for the first time.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh man, you like grapes on your Carcucci board?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Or what do you Carcucci board?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What do you look at?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
How do you like yours diced up?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You like three different kinds of crackers and maybe like
some apple slices and grapes? Like, how do you like
your carcucci if you had to, if you had to
break yours down?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Brady Quinn, you're big find guy.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm breaking on a Carcucci board.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Okay, all right, Well stick around. At some point during
the course of the show, we might break.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Down our our deal.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Our four is the Carcucci hour here, so we will
break down a Carcucci board coming up an hour four.
That's what we do here on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
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Speaker 5 (13:27):
I mean I could have sworn Dan Snyder was gone. Brady,
I could have sworn everything was fine. You know, now
we can just focus on all the positive stuff. It
seemed like there were going to be no more issues,
no more problems, no more nothing in Washington with the
Commandos other than the fact that the team name stinks
and they probably got to make a change. And then
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Ron Rivera, the head coach of the Washington Commandos, was
talking yesterday about how some of the players there have
a little bit of an issue with the approach of
new offensive coordinator Eric B.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Enemy. And so here was.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Rivera speaking with the media, which did not land well
with a lot of people who cover sports and a
lot of people who may or may not have a
preconceived notion as to who Eric B.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Enemy is.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
I had a number of guys come to me and
I said, just go talk to him. I said, understand
what he's trying to get across to you, you know.
And I think as they go and they talk and
they listen to him, it's it's been it's been enlightening
for a lot of these guys. I mean, it's a
whole different approach.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You know. Again, you get a different kind of.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
Player from from the players back in the past, especially
in life of how things are coming out.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Of college football.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
So a lot of these young guys, you know, they
do struggle with certain certain things. Eric has an approach
and it's the way he does things, and he's not
going to change, and and and.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Because he believes in it.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Jack has his approach, you know, having been a head coach,
I think Jack has a tendency to try and figure
guys out a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
As opposed to, Hey, this is it, this is the
way it's going to be.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
That's type of stuff where Eric, Eric hasn't had that experience.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Shot just when they came to you, it's just they
felt like Eric was riding them too hard. Well, they
just were a little concerned, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So that was Ron and Vera talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, so let me start off by asking you this question.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Should we be concerned? Is this a big deal?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Then why is this getting out there? Why is this discussed?
Why is this becoming public it?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
My guess would be there are some people that have
perceived that as him throwing Eric b enemy under the bus.
That be enemy already has an issue with players there
in Washington that that's the way I've read it, which
I hear the quote. I see the quote and I go, okay, well,
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let me hear the sound. You hear the sound, and
it landed differently from me, from Ron Revanna.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, I think it always hits different when you hear
someone's tone, right, you see, you hear the way they're
actually saying something, which you can't get lost in all
of this.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It does seem like an odd time to have this
sort of conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean, we're we're just now entering into the preseason
game portion of training camp. What what you used to
say was the toughest part of training camps over.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
It was not even really a tough part anymore for
training camp.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But if if you want to label a portion of it,
that's what we just got got through. It's just odd
that this is becoming a subject. It's it's even odd
that it's being addressed. I'm not sure why it's it's
needed to be addressed. I'm not sure if if if
you know the question prompted the response to it because
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some players have talked about it, or the media has
witnessed that. You know, Eric benemy Is had a reputation
of being an old school coach. He was a former player,
came from an era where coaches were a lot tougher
on you. And so there's some coaches who have continued
that approach, and some have said, like, I can't coach
anymore for that reason. And there's others who've adapted to
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the type of players that they're getting now that don't.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Feed off of that.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So it's it's tough to know what exactly the end
game is unless you know you would be willing to
admit that Ron Rivera might be on the hot seat.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Is it fair to say that?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And who would take over? I Ron Rivera got fired.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Probably Eric b Enemy, Okay, Well, and so then you
have to wonder to yourself that if you you don't
start planning seeds that make people think that maybe Eric
Beenemy wouldn't be best suited for it. And maybe this
is one of the reasons why, especially with an organization
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that's had issues in their own way from ownership and
the workplace, et cetera. But that'd be the other way
you'd go about looking at it, is that that's coming
out almost as a way of Ron Rivera kind of
putting up a shield or I guessed an obstacle for
the new brass new ownership in Washington to move on
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from him and hire Eric b Enemy as a head coach.
Since the NFL has clamored for this, I mean they've
clamored in the off season for Eric Bnemy to be
hired as a head coach for quite some time.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
This would be the other way it could potentially happen,
and unfortunately it'd be at the dismay of Ron Rivera.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
You know, being a head coach there in Washington.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
If you were Eric Bienemy, would it bother you that
Rivera made those comments?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I mean, he's my head coach, so no.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I mean the reality is, I don't know Eric ennem is,
you know, coaching style. I'm not sure you know how
he would take that. I mean, you have a head
coach you's speaking on what he's being asked about, and
it sounds like Ron Rivera's really truthful. I don't know
that there's anything to you know, pick a part to say.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean, like the one thing about the enemy,
because he also spoke yesterday just about his approach and
his style.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
The one thing you can say about the enemy when
you hear him in.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
This clip, is that clearly humble, been through a lot,
doesn't think too highly of himself.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And if you're.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Doubting the validity of that statement that we just made,
we'll take a listen.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Yes, I am intense and I would be afraid to
the start if I didn't know him. Eric b Enemy
is who he is, Okay, Eric Beenemy knows how to
adapt and adjust. Eric Bannemy is a tough, hard nosed coach,
but also under stay.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I'm going to be.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
The biggest and harshest critic, but I'm also the number
one fan because I've got day back and I'm going
to support them at all time.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, I mean so, so I already know what bothered
you in this clip. So just so our listeners understand,
Jonahs does not like when anyone talks a third person.
It's it's very seldom that I think most people actually do.
But immediately when we just listen to a clip from
Eric Ennebe talking about Eric Biennebe, that rubbed you the
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wrong way.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't get it, man, I just I don't get it.
It's never landed well with me.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I can't imagine ever having a discussion with somebody and saying,
you know, Jonas Knox feels this sort of way, and.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
There's only one person who's been able to do it
and get away with it, and that is Ricky Henderson.
Ricky Henderson talking about himself the third person is quite
possibly the most quotable, amazing person at.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Talking third person.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yes, he gets a pass.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
He's one of the Yeah, it's kind of like when
Charles Barkley can say things on television that nobody else
can say because he's got it's just sort of built in,
it's grandfathered in.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
He gets a pass.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Ricky Henderson, do whatever you want to do and talk
about yourself as much as possible. But I think, just
big picture, the reason why this didn't land wrong with
a lot of people is because they're really sensitive to
the Eric Enemy conversation and the discussion because nobody wants
to just say what A lot of people and You've
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talked about this as well too on the air for
a couple of years, because the conversation about him getting
an opportunity has been floated out there for years. He's
interviewed and nobody and nobody wants to say, maybe he
just didn't interview well like, nobody wants to say there's
been a lot of and they want to go race
card and minority high. There's been a lot of minority
hires in the NFL since Eric Vienemy had his first
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head coaching interview.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I does it not have any sort of.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Possibility thrown in there that maybe he just doesn't interview
well and maybe something like that doesn't land well with
a lot of people who are looking to hire a
head coach who's got his approach that already isn't sitting
well with players in Washington, so much so that the
head coach had to talk about it before we even
get to the preseason game. Like, to me, I think
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that's a real possibility, and I think that may be
playing out here, but people are sensitive to it and
nobody wants to have just a real conversation about it.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Look, I think there's a lot of there's a lot
of parts of the hiring process.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That need to be improved in the NFL. Bottom line.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, And I think the tough thing is there's probably
a percentage of people out there who don't interview well
but can do their job well. Right, those are two
different requirements. Right, there's a skill set that you have
to be able to apply it to any career, any job.
And you might be good at that, but you know
what you might not be good at being able to
sit in front of someone and sell them how good
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you are.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Based on that clip, I would think Eric Ennemy can
talk very well about Eric Pienemy in front of a
in front of an owner in an interview. But that
being said, you know, there's elements to the interview process
that he might not excel at where you know, don't
matter but it does to the hiring process, but it
doesn't matter to the actual job, right, And those are
some of the issues that I think every industry you
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know faces in regards to its hiring process.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But there's also this idea that will, hey, Eric b.
Enemy has been.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Their offensive coordinator and no, look at all the success
that Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs and they're having. Okay, well,
I guess we'll see, you know, how successful Washington's offense
is this year? Right with Eric B Enemy there, if
everyone's assuming that he's an offensive genius because of what
happened with the Chiefs, or I guess we'll see what
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happens with the Chiefs like, are they going.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
To take a step back without Eric B. Enemy?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean I would have sat there and made the
statement that, you know, it doesn't matter that what the
Chiefs lost in Matt and Aggy and Doug Peterson, they still.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Move forward, right.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean the last time I checked Joan's tell me,
did they win a couple of super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah? They were okay.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
And also I would have said they probably would have
taken a step back after they lost Tyreek Hill and nope.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Nope, I mean one of the Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So like, for the people out there who want to
use the accolades, the accomplishments of Eric B.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Enemy during his time with Kansas City and those you
know during that span, that's great.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
But yeah, like there's there's two main components to that formula,
and it's Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, right, Like, those
are the main two components, and then everything else is
complimentary of that, But it's not what makes the Chiefs
go at least not offensively speaking. So I think, look,
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the hiring process could be improved. There's people who are
sensitive that. That's why they get a little bit frustrated
with Eric B. Enemy not getting opportunities even though he's
been in OC. That's you know, h labeled OC even
though it's still any Reid call in the plays and
other people are.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Clamoring for that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right, he'll get a shot now, he'll get this opportunity,
right Like, That's that's how this is probably gonna end
up working out. And I think to just bring it
full circle, it's probably why you're hearing Ron Rivera make
some of these public comments, is he wants to make
it very well known the coaching style and what Eric
the Enemy could end up being, or if there aren't
any issues with players, like kind of creating a little
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bit out of that awareness for it for saying like,
hey man, if there are issues, then then this is
something that like he might have to eventually address, especially
if you're getting out in front of it in training
camp and the season hasn't even started yet.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
It's also I think it would be pretty a realistic
possibility that Eric b enemy. Maybe he's a little bit
more frustrated at times because when you go from Patrick
Mahomes and everything that they've already built, as you pointed
out with Andy Reid, and then he's tasked with take
over a team that doesn't have Patrick Mahomes and doesn't
have all that success. Yeah, maybe he's getting a little
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bit more frustrated than he normally would. And maybe that
hasn't shown in practices in Kansas City, but it is
in Washington because he's not dealing with the kind of
talent that he was dealing with, and maybe there's an
adjustment on his end.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Regardless.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I mean, yeah, he's going to get his opportunity, and
you know, it just depends on how people want to
take this and run with it. When it comes to
Ron Rivera, I would be surprised, though it does feel
like Ron Rivera is at least going to be safe
for this year, because I can't imagine new ownership would
come in and say, you know, they've had a problem
with you know, a lot of turnover here when it
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comes to head coaching. Now, I'm not even going to
give him the full season. Ron Rivera's gone and he's
just going to move on. Like, I would find it
hard to believe that Ron Rivera would be the first
coach fired or the first coach especially fired in season.
But I don't know, I could be reading the whole
thing wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So no, I think you're right. I mean, I think
they will probably take a patient approach. It's one of
which you reevaluate after the first year. I mean, I
think any new ownership, I mean, if they're smart the
way they go about doing it, You're not going to
come in and immediately start making a ton of changes.
You're gonna kind of come sit, observe, watch how things operate,
and then kind of move on from there and see,
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you know, based on your observation, your experience, and maybe
some of your consultation, how you go about trying to
implement the changes you want to make, and any big
decisions like that, you know, you kind of get together
after the season figure out, Okay, if we're going to
move on from a guy who's been a really good
head coach in the NFL, who are you gonna get?
We better have someone in mind that we feel really
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really good about selling to our fan base.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And I've already told you my theory. I mean, like,
if Washington.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Finds themselves in the position to draft Caleb Williams, everyone
assumes Arizona is going to be that team with the
top overall pick, But let's say it's Washington. It's where
he's from Killboys, is from the DC area, and I
could see a scenario, you know, they offer Lincoln Riley
the job as well, and have those two come into
the NFL together.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And I think if if.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You're Lincoln Riley, you'd have to contemplate it, if not
simply for the fact that it is the NFL. You've
got new ownership that's bring you in as their guy,
their head coach, and in that in that instance, you've
got your quarterback, which is our you know, a couple
of big, big reasons outside.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Of a huge payday why you'd want to do that.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
But again this are all hypotheticals and everything else, but
you could see how how that sort of thing could
could align pretty quickly.
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whatever the hell it's called now.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
He is Petros Kapadakis. He is the co host of
the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
the blowtorch AM five seventy LA Sports. He's also an
analyst for Fox's college football coverage.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Petros, It's happening.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
Good morning, Good morning, everybody, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Is that Brady is LeVar? LeVar is not here.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, it's not he's not No, I know LeVar.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
He's not here, probably sitting on a nice LeVar Island
somewhere right, Yeah, what's that? It's it's just a long island,
but we call it a LeVar island.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
Not how gross loves them. How can you be in
your forties and drink that drink?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
He loves them, that's his favorite drink. I know. I
just don't get it.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
I used to have teammates that are like, I love
this drink and be like why because it's blue.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
It's like okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, it's a bit much.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Called an audio mother effort. Have you ever had one
of these? It's so cool. It looks like wind decks?
What do they call it that? Petros Ap.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Got a hypothetical question for you, and this is not,
I mean purely hypothetical, but say there was a boat
that ended up crashing and sinking, okay, and there were
only four survivors on that boat and they're all in
the water, and you're.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You must have been thinking about this all day.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Well, non, you're you're getting ready to throw out a
life vest, but you only got one beavers there it is?
That is your correct answer, that's who you say from
the PAC twelve. Yeah, I don't even have to think
about it now, why not Col? Why not Stanford? Why
not Wazoo?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Waszoo would be second?
Speaker 10 (31:32):
Why not Wazoo Because I've spent Thanksgiving in Lewiston, Idaho,
where there were no hotel rooms in Pullment. But no,
I love Wazoo and I love the Koogs and Martin
Stadium and I loved playing there when I was a
kid and all that. But I love the Beaves a
lot bes I'm a huge Beaver. And then Cal, I
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you know, look, I played at Cal briefly and I
love That's my favorite place to go. Was in the
conference and it still is, I guess. But you know,
Cal's been complicit in some of this. Everybody is. They
all have university presidents that allowed this to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
So Stanford sound like you think, well, all this is
going on seems to be a little hullaballoon the conference.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
Oh anyway, Stanford is the one that really pisses me off.
But look, why do you think that the AAC and
the ACC are kicking the tires on the four teams
left in the PAC twelve. It's because they're controlled by ESPN.
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And that's what I've said to begin with. And I
don't have a problem with it. I've seen it happening
for so long that I guess I'm just reconciled stiled
to it. It sucks, but ESPN has now been boxed out,
like Dennis Rodman of the West Coast. They don't have
much of a footprint, if any, out here now with
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the way all the TV deals fell out and the
way the Pac twelve worked. So now they want to
have some kind of presence out on the West Coast.
Stanford and Cal academically makes sense because of the links
with teams like Duke.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Do the networks really care about that? I mean, that's
the university presence, right Petros.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (33:29):
I mean I think it's probably a little bit of
a mix, but I think the networks do care about
being able to fill all the slots during the day.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I'm saying the academic component.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Is, oh no, the academic component nobody cares about. Yeah,
And you know what, nobody cares about the Olympic sports
and the non revenue sports. As great as they are
and as upset as some of these athletes are, there's
also kind of a reality check in there too. And look,
I have great respect for everybody team volleyball, all that stuff.
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You know, none of them get hit upside the head
like we do. But they're all working eight hour days
and trying to go to school, and they're they're an
elite athlete at a very high level, and we all
respect that, but also shouldn't there be some semblance of
understanding that football is the reason these sports exist at
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these schools.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Football is what funds.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
These sports at these schools, and football is going to
be king And if your coaches or administrators or recruiters
had any foresight, they would tell you, hey, get ready
for things to change. We're in a time of enormous
change in college sports. That part of it rings a
little hollow for me. Yeah, it's stupid that they have
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to travel more and all that, but it's stupid that
we have minor league football wrapped up in art institutions
of higher education. And look, we all make a living
on it and it's part of our identity. So whatever
that part of it, I just don't. I just I mean,
you knew this was happening. How could everybody be acting
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so surprised right now?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
One hundred percent agree with you, And I think there's
like two trends of thoughts, Like there's a portion of
it where I'm kind of like, you know, who doesn't
get blamed in any of this is the NFL because
the NFL has never taken time to invest into a
developmental minor league system because they've always had college football.
But if they did, this issue, to me, wouldn't be
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as big of an issue as it is now. And
I don't think the landscape of college sports are but
in particular football would have gotten to this point because
kids didn't want to actually play in college and go
get an education. We'll go into the minor league system
and they go to the G League like that they're
in basketball, or they go overseas and play and they
come back to the draft. But because of the three
years you have to wait and there's no minor league system,
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a lot of footballers are forced to go to college
and they don't care at all, Like they're not going
to go to class, they're not going to get their
degree and they don't want to.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, and it's a tough balance.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
No, And and all I'm saying is is if there
was a minor league system, you could honestly say, like
I think.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
College football probably stays put.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I don't know that you're seeing these drastic changes like
we're seeing. And I'm not saying like I'm pointing the
finger at the NFL, but it is I think a
talking point that no one really discusses is the differences
in every other sport from college to minor league to
pros that you don't see with football.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
And football is ultimately the.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Driver that's changing everything, at least the landscape of all
college sports.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
Yeah, and the football is the reason that we've built
these giant cathedrals to college sports. And in all of
these places, college men's basketball is a big deal. In
some places it is a revenue sport, but it's not
like a kingdom builder like football. I think it's a
valid point, Brady. Here's why I think it hasn't happened
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in the last hundred plus years. Nobody, nobody has got
the balls to march anywhere into one of these places
and take away college football. And I feel like if
the NFL did that, or tried to do that, or
created something other than just letting you know, Fox or
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ESPN or the Rock or whoever put together these little
one off leagues or the USFL and the stuff the
spring football stuff. If the NFL really did that, like, hey,
these are the Pittsburgh Steelers, Triple A team here in Poughkeepsie,
I think that you'd get a major pushback from their friends,
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their colleagues, their basically compatriots in college. It's been a
really weird marriage, but it's been a marriage for a
long time, and I think it's going to be kind
of hard to break that bond. If anything, time wise,
money wise, geography wise, college football is becoming more and
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more like the NFL. Right, you know, we're trying to
shorten the games, We're moving everybody around, and that's because
there's so much money being made. And once that money
started being made, you know, you started to and then.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
That happened one hundred years ago, Brady. I mean, this
isn't new.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
I mean this became revenue when Red Grange freaked out
and everybody on the East coast wanted to come see
him in the West, which was Illinois at that time.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I do want to throw something at you because I
find this interesting, because this isn't my comments. This actually
comes from a coach formerly of the Pac twelve now
with a Big ten, who talked about ideally what this
model should be to preserve probably college sports and be
able to create the change that I think we're all
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looking for is why not have all these teams that
are moving into let's just call it the autonomous four
conferences between the Big twelve, acc SEC and Big Ten.
Why not just have them that call it whatever you want,
whatever other league you want, but just make them all independent.
Like if you actually look at Notre Dames model and
how all this realignments going to impact the college football playoff,
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why not just say, hey, look, we've got sixty teams right.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Between the what was the Power five? What was the
group of five?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Sixty teams, eighty teams, whatever it is, make them all independent.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
You could figure out how to now.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Do the scheduling portion based on, you know, the regionality
of it, so it's not as big of a burden
from a cost perspective. You could divide up those divisions
if you will, based on the region and then have
a playoff Like.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Why is that, say difficult?
Speaker 10 (39:52):
We might be headed towards some kind of giant amalgamus league,
but I think you're view of it coming from Notre
Dame might be a little skewed. I mean Notre Dame
doesn't need anybody to sell Notre Dame, perdu needs Ohio State.
You know, That's why I watch, you know, I mean,
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that's what happened you but you can that's what happened
in the West. Once you pulled SC and UCLA out,
the whole thing collapsed in on itself. A lot of
these places can't stand but Petros.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
The argument too, though, is Ohio State still needs someone
to play. Like as much as there's those top tier
Ohio State, Michigan's, USC, UCLA, whatever the programs you're talking
on a conference, you still have to have other teams
for them to play.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
These schools don't just want to play each other.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
But god forbid, it's like the top thirty teams just
score off first each other to grudge batch every week.
Those schools survive year in and year out with the
money they make for being lumped in with Ohio State
and Michigan on their TV deal. And and I think
that's you know, as we talk through it, you know,
I think that would be the major stumbling block there.
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I just don't think, I mean, Notre Dame can afford
to do whatever they want. I mean, they can play
halfway into a league, put the rest of their sports
into a league. I mean, they're able to do all
these things that a lot of people can't because they
have such a recognizable brand. And we all thought, you know, Texas,
you know, hey, the Longhorn is just as recognizable as
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the ND or the Clover.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
And the truth is it wasn't.
Speaker 10 (41:30):
I mean, the whole Longhorn network thing, you know, sort
of fell apart, which is interesting.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
I don't know where.
Speaker 10 (41:39):
I mean, ultimately, they make too much money for it
to be the raw rah cis bumba pep rally college
football of the new Rockney days. Everybody does, right, There's
just way too much money being made, and the fact
that the schools are align and partnering and making literally
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billions of dollars on these TV deals and they still
don't pay the players the eighty five scholarships they're still
depending on, and to hell with the nil stuff. It's
still just rich guys trying to hang out with football players,
the same thing that's been happening for one hundred years.
These guys are paying the players in this weird, haphazard way,
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and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Let them pay the players that shouldn't be illegal, but that.
Speaker 10 (42:31):
Should not exclude the schools from paying up from what
they owe for the TV deal for the guys that
are at risk between the lines. And I don't know,
there's a thousand ways to set up the dominoes. Brady
and I agree. I mean, we could talk about it forever,
but ultimately, until you're doing that, I don't know. I mean,
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I know it's not amateurism, it's not all that stuff,
but all that stuff has been bastardized and thrown out
the window years ago.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
So we got to pay these guys.
Speaker 10 (43:00):
And until we're doing that, we're cheating in a big way.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It's a rev share.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I've said this forever, like how they're not getting a
piece of it, and I understand the steps to get there.
There has to be a union or at least someone
negotiating up.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
With Title nine, you know, stands in your way, and
that's why you have to get out from under the umbrella.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yeah, hey, Patris, you got in the old pack ten
pack twelve gear that just went up in value because
the conference went to craps got eating freaking.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
Ear pods, dude, Yeah, I got that pack twelve ear pods.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Man, where'd you get those?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
From freaking Pack twelve dinner?
Speaker 10 (43:34):
Yeah, one of the last suppers that I went to, Hey,
did you get this year's gift?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
It was like a bag. No, I just left it.
It was a Lulu lemon bag. Oh yeah, I don't
need that. They were so can I. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I'm kind of scared to say this publicly, but I
guess the conference might not even exists.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, So so I'm literally leaving heading up the escalator,
and some of them, the Pack twelves, like oh, did
you get your gift?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Did you get your gift? I was like, oh no,
I I tried to, like it was like no, no, no,
you have to come get the gift. Yeah, there's a
pile of it and nobody wants it.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
No one wanted to, and so like I was the
guy who was like holding the bag going up the escalator,
looking at everyone like yep.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Tight lead to your chest like a purse.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Honestly, I was holding it thinking like can I drop
this at the top of the escalator and will anyone
judge me or notice? Like can I get away with
like or security going to think I'm like dropping off
a bomb inside a stadium, like, is this going to
be an issue?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
And so I just I decided to take it with it.
Speaker 10 (44:32):
Well, uf it said Pac twelve on it. You knew
it was going to explode in a certain amount of time.
I do have to say, you know, Brady moves amongst
these people like Caesar, you.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Know, just gracefully floating around. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
You know, you look around. You see the Arizona State coach.
You know, he's a young ass dude.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 10 (44:55):
You see Merton Hanks and his long neck. Yeah, and
there's Brady just just just.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Gliding across the floor like.
Speaker 10 (45:02):
A Russian ballerina with his package all tight in there,
just looking great.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Yeah, shoulders, broad shoulders.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
You never see the nutcracker?
Speaker 10 (45:13):
Yeah, you know the ballet they were Tchaikowski, I think
you know, my sister was a ballerina. So I have
to sit through it every year, and you know it's
hard to forget, you know, when the clock strikes and
the door opens and here comes that nutcracker and he's
like a swoll ass ballerina dude with a big ass
package jacked but has like a huge puppet head on.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah, and and Brady does.
Speaker 10 (45:39):
Look a little like that to me, just swoll giant
nutcracker head gracefully gliding across the floor.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Like you straddling a duffel bag.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Yeah, if only this segment, because I did like three
minutes ago like a Lulu lemon man.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
If only this could have ended three minutes ago, it
would have been the perfect segment. Pah No.
Speaker 10 (46:00):
I mean, look, we had our deep college football conversation,
but I just want you guys to watch. You look
up on YouTube where.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
It goes guess who up and there he is. He
kills the rat king.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Do you do you watch any of these football like
do you watch Hard Knocks?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Do you watch the Johnny You.
Speaker 10 (46:25):
Know, I thought you guys were going to ask me
about it, and I didn't watch it Johnny Football, I
mean just the quarterback one bugs me because they call
a run play and then he goes and throws a
pass play and it's like, where's the continuity, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Here's what we found out for the Johnny Football one
is he apparently went he got drafted in the NFL
and then did watch any film. And Johnny and his
agent are almost like, I don't want to say bragging
about it, but but they're like they're they're admitting that, like,
oh yeah, that had nothing to do with his career
not working out in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I mean, is that frowned upon? I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Hey, we also learned, Petros.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
We also learned, uh, and I have it on good
authority that you're a fan of charcuterie boards. I love
a charkoon, all right, So we just wanted to get
your thoughts on the pronunciation of a charcuterie board from
John Franklin Myers of the Jets last night on home did.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
He drop us charshootery.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Let's listen.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
I want to go to Broadway, so I want to
eat a Carcucci board.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Let's go carcudie.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm not sure if that's the word of the day
coming up with.
Speaker 10 (47:38):
I remember I trying to order like a cipedo once. Uh,
and I was called it a cloppy.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
You know that was good?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Uh Cacucci, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (47:47):
Give me that carcuch I was gonna sit down and
watch it, uh, like before.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
We did the show today, like.
Speaker 10 (47:54):
I was gonna I'm gonna take I was gonna take
a piece of it, just because you know, I want
to act.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Like I was in the now.
Speaker 10 (48:00):
But I turned on the TV and Cleopatra with Liz
Taylor and Richard Burton was on, so I just left
that one better option.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah. Well, hey, Petros, hopefully i'll see this Friday.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
You're gonna be are You're gonna come to Thousand Oaks?
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Come on, man, what about you?
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Brady the home game. I will actually be in Ohio.
I've got my annual charity event coming up.
Speaker 10 (48:20):
I'm gonna need you to fly across the country first
and check us out at the Tarantella.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Hill Brewing Company.
Speaker 10 (48:26):
Hell yeah, two o'clock on Friday in Thousand Oaks, California,
home of the Lancers.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yep, that's correct, Yeah, that is correct.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Well, Jonas will be representing me as part of the
part of the crew.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
You know, I was in o High for a week there, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh listen, you're Ventura County through and through.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Now you're Ventura County.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Oh yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
OHI is super nice.
Speaker 10 (48:51):
It's lovely, Yeah, artisable food, crunchy groovers.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (48:58):
A lot of hippies, yeah, a lot of Every once
in a while you run into somebody who like it
seems like their occupation is cultivating body odor.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
That's kind Jonas.
Speaker 10 (49:08):
You know, you can see my wife and I like
riding around on cruiser bikes looking like two huge dorps,
ringing the bell. Yeah, wearing my helmet.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
I'm sure you get recognized though. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
I don't know why that is, but you're right.
Speaker 10 (49:26):
I would never say that ever, or I would never
volunteer that information. But yeah, yeah, I found that a
lot of the white people knew me.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, that is true. I get him on Twitter.
Speaker 10 (49:39):
There's a thick faced white guy looks like a fat Morrissey.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Oh he knows me.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
The hell's going on, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Not much, man, it's just some hard docks last night,
you can know TV appointment television?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Yeah, did you watch? Yeah? I did.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I got a little bit of an issue going on
right now in studio. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
What's that.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Well, I was trying to use some hand sanitizer, big
hand sanitizer guy, and uh.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
I don't think like overusing hand sanitizer is good for you.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
Well no, but I just I wanted to use just
a little bit of it and I tried to squirt
it out and I couldn't get.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It to leave the bottle.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
And then I twisted it the other way and it
wasn't working. I went back to the opposite side, and
then it just sprayed all over my laptops. Now I
got sanitizer all over my laptop. We at least it's clean, right, yeah,
first time for everything, you know. Yeah, so it could
have used that your laptop.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thinking about that, My god.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's like it's like watsons that.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Yeah, that's my This is my I call this my
Deshaun Watson device, So you just leave me alone. I'd
let that, but hey, it's clean now. So there is that.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
You can't create like artificial intelligence that way.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
That's not exactly how it's created.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
That's not that's how it's done. Yeah, what is it?
Boston Dynamics. Is that where they do it? Harvard Dynamics?
Where do they do that at?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
I don't know. Whatever you're doing seems pretty dynamic.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
But so yeah, listen hard knocks one episode in. What
do you think, Brady Quinn You're gonna make it for
episode two or nah? Because I feel like I'm kinda
all right, thank you?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
What can I make an honest envision? Yeah? I didn't
even make it to episode one, so I'll catch up
on it some point.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
It look, it's just it's kind of the same old
old it's getting to know everybody. Early on, I thought
they were going to focus more on the Sean Payton stuff.
Rogers was kind of busting Nathaniel Hackett's balls about they
were doing the pylon game at the end of practice,
where you try and hit the pylon. I don't know
if that's something you ever partook in as a quarterback,
(02:18):
but they would try and hit the pilon with the football,
and then you would try and distract the other guys.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
So Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Shouted Sean Payton when Nathaniel Hackett was playing, and they
were just kind of giving each other a hard time.
But the one thing I took away from the Nathaniel
Hackett stuff, I could see why players really like him.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Like I'm super nice, like energy, magetic.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
And it makes sense why Rogers is really supportive of him,
because that seems like a guy you would want to
play for. Like he seems like a fun guy.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
He's super fun, super nice, I mean from all accounts.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
And look, there's some guys who they get an opportunity
to be a head coach before they're ready and it
doesn't work out. There's some guys who are just better
position coaches, they're better offensive coordinators. That's that's just that's
what they are, and that's okay. There's there's nothing wrong
with that. And and those guys might get an opportunity
(03:15):
to be a head coach and when they do, they
might struggle. It's okay, Like failure's okay if you learn
from it and move on from it. And you kind
of figure some things out from it if you just
take it for.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
What it is.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
You know, it's it's you're never going to allow yourself
to move past and get better. But you know it's
I think he's got a good reputation from anyone who's
ever coached him as a you know, as an OC,
as a position coach, and people love them. So, uh, look,
I saw some clips from obviously Hard Knocks. I didn't
watch the whole thing. We'll see if I've time to
(03:50):
do so, but it seems like, you know, there's a
true connection between him and Aaron Rodgers. And if the
Jets have success this year, I personally look at it
and say, it's going to be a large part because
of Nathaniel Hackett, because if Nathaniel Hackett's not there, I
don't know that they get Rodgers, Like I don't know
that Aaron wants to go to the New York Jets.
(04:11):
I think if I think if Nathaniel Hackett was still
in Denver, they would have tried to make some sort
of move to get Aaron Rodgers of Denver.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Like that's how close I feel like those two are.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Yeah, it was really playing out and you could see
Rogers sticking up for him, talking about their relationship, how
it started, how close they are. You know, they're not
that far apart in age, obviously, and so Rogers and him,
you know, needle each other and get on each other,
and you just see sort of how the other players
have rallied around Nathaniel Hackett. So it made all the
sense in the world when you hear that. But we
(04:44):
do have a little bit of a clip from Hard Knocks.
I would love for you to take a listen to
and tell me how fired up this gets you, because
Robert Sala was speaking to the team and he wanted
to make sure that everybody's minds were in the right places.
So we've got a little something for you to get
you fired up here or maybe not fired up at
all on your Wednesday morning. So Brady Quinn a guy
who sat in rooms hearing speeches from coaches to try
(05:07):
and get you motivated at it, delware for twenty something
years playing football. Here's Robert Salah talking with his team
last night, courtesy of Hard Knocks on HBO.
Speaker 6 (05:17):
The only bird, the only bird in the world that
will attack an eagle is a crow.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
We'll perch on.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
The eagles back and peck at its neck. So rather
than fight back and tearing a crow to pieces like
it can, the egle spreads its wings and it soars
as high as it possibly can. It keeps going and
going as high as it can. And the higher the
egle flies, the harder it is for the crow to breathe. Eventually,
the crow suffocates, falls back down the earth and dies.
(05:46):
That's what happens.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Guys.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
We got a great deal of hyperondis. We do all
kinds of expectations, and with great expectations, we know that
there's going to be a whole lot of people, a
whole lot of crows, expecting us to fall on our
face doing to find that little bit more to get
us closer to being a great teav You finished practice,
not what you finished?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Meetings? Now what lifting? Now what?
Speaker 6 (06:11):
And if we come together and we challenge ourselves to
do a little bit more every day, the crows they'll
fall by themselves.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, got it.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And with the music in the background, now were they
piping in the music in the meeting room while they will?
He was given the speech because that really what it
would have added to it, you know, the whole crow
eagle comparison there. I feel like that would beg or do.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
You want to be a crow? You don't want to
be a crow? Right, that was the point of it.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Yeah, I think so. But here's what I would say
about crows. Crows get kind of a bad rap they do.
Why don't you ask hawks about crows? Crows go after hawks.
I remember growing up we would always see that if
a hawk was in the in the area trying to
kill one of our pigeons, we knew the crows are
going to take it. You know, they've got a little
gang going on there. So I feel like you kind
of mistressed crows. Yeah, yeah, we had pigeons growing up.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Why not? Not really sure?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But we did.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yes, never never pictured you for a pigeon guy.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Very very smart, like we sent them away.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Yeah, and Mike Tyson did that for a while.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
He did, and they got they got out of control.
There was too many of them, and so we.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Said, all right, we gotta thought they were like on
drugs or something, right, don't they hype those things up sometimes?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I don't think that we did unless they got into
if there was like a stash of meth or something
around the house. That somebody might have left out. Maybe
that might have been the case, but I remember we
were trying to get rid of them one time, and
so we put them in a box in this sense,
so inhumane. We put them in a box, and we
were worried about them potentially flying back, so we marked
(07:44):
their feathers with like a pink highlighter, just thinking, okay,
well we'll see if they come back. And we drove
them out for all the way to Santa Barbara, which
is way up north, like an hour drive. No way
they're going to find their way back. And they found
their way all the way back in a couple of days.
Pretty amazing birds. But who cares to say what was
(08:07):
the mortal of that story? I don't know, not really sure,
but I figured i'd get my best Robert Solid here
for hard knocks.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Considering, I think you pointed out something that's interesting, Like
anything a coach says under dramatic music can sound.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
No great badass, right, Like do you know what a
what an eagle does? And a crows on its back?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
The funny the funny thing about that, thank you, Sam.
The funny thing about those sorts of speeches are all
you're trying to do as a coach is get one
thing that the players can take with them, like one
small little note, anecdote, something to take with them, and.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
That is that was enough.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Like there'll be dudes they come out of locker them me,
it gotta be like an eagle, You'll say, Man, gotta
be like an eagle.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
You know, you're so high above it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Like that, that will be the one thing they take
away from the whole crow eagle thing. And it works
and it moves forward and it gets people's attention and
it's it's cool until it's not. Like I feel like
last year there's a lot of those you know, things
that Robert Sala would say and it was like, oh yeah,
and the media loves it, right The media loves Robert
(09:19):
Solin rightfully. So he's a good guy and I think
he's doing you know, he's trying to do the best
job he can as a head coach to get his
team mentally figuring in the right direction. But there's also
an element of there's not there's not always something to
be said, there is always something to be done, there's
not always something to be said, and that's where this
(09:41):
team is at right now.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Who is the best coach speak you ever got. Who
is the best that if he threw some dramatic music
under him, it'd be even better.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
John Fox gets Kids could give some pretty good pregame speeches.
Jeff Fisher gave some pretty good pregame speeches. I mean
his usual was player. I mean that that's the truth.
It was usually players who would give the best pregame speech.
Brian Dawkins gave some as you know, as a passionate
(10:15):
speech as you'll ever find from a player, I mean,
just pouring his heart out type speech before games. He's
I mean, he's everything as a Hall of Famer you'd hope,
but like also so much more than that, as like
a man like spiritually everything else he was.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
He was one of the.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Most I don't even know how to describe, like being
around him, just supernatural, like he really was. Like when
you'd see him after games and how beat up he'd be,
and then before the game, the way he'd come out
of the tunnel run out there, I'm like that dude,
that dude just transformed like he was barely able to move,
(10:57):
and you'd see it every week for sixteen weeks back then,
and you're just like, man, that's impressive.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Now, there was a pretty good back and forth between
some jets.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Linemen, this to me is the Highway.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Do we have this out?
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:11):
We do?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
All right.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
So this is Solomon Thomas talking about potentially going to Broadway,
maybe taking some of his teammates, but wanting to make
sure that they really appreciate it. And then you had
jo John Franklin Myers talking about maybe getting fancy and uh,
this is how it played out last night at HBO.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You know you said you don't want me to do
it to Broadway. I said that because I feel like
you'd be talking during the play and I want you
to respect the performance. Okay, how much Broadway?
Speaker 8 (11:41):
So I want to eat ACiE board.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Car or Cucci board. What did he call it? I
don't know, it's Coeri if I if I believe that
I have the yeah to.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Carcucci board Caracucci. I mean, that's the thing about a locker,
you love though. You get a lot of guys who
you know, come from places and backgrounds that they're not
as exposed to stuff, and and like you know, they're
they're getting exposed to more things and it's cool.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
I mean, that is That's one of.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
The cooler things about like hanging out different teammates is
like see like they get this.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
You get to experience stuff with them for the first time.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Oh man, you like grapes on your Carcucci board?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Or what do you Carcucci board?
Speaker 2 (12:41):
What do you look at?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
How do you like yours diced up?
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You like three different kinds of crackers and maybe like
some apple slices and grapes? Like, how do you like
your carcucci if you had to, if you had to
break yours down?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Brady Quinn, you're big find guy.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm breaking on a Carcucci board.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Okay, all right, Well stick around. At some point during
the course of the show, we might break.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Down our our deal.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Our four is the Carcucci hour here, so we will
break down a Carcucci board coming up an hour four.
That's what we do here on this show.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
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Speaker 5 (13:27):
I mean I could have sworn Dan Snyder was gone. Brady,
I could have sworn everything was fine. You know, now
we can just focus on all the positive stuff. It
seemed like there were going to be no more issues,
no more problems, no more nothing in Washington with the
Commandos other than the fact that the team name stinks
and they probably got to make a change. And then
(13:49):
Ron Rivera, the head coach of the Washington Commandos, was
talking yesterday about how some of the players there have
a little bit of an issue with the approach of
new offensive coordinator Eric B.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Enemy. And so here was.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Rivera speaking with the media, which did not land well
with a lot of people who cover sports and a
lot of people who may or may not have a
preconceived notion as to who Eric B.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Enemy is.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
I had a number of guys come to me and
I said, just go talk to him. I said, understand
what he's trying to get across to you, you know.
And I think as they go and they talk and
they listen to him, it's it's been it's been enlightening
for a lot of these guys. I mean, it's a
whole different approach.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
You know. Again, you get a different kind of.
Speaker 9 (14:35):
Player from from the players back in the past, especially
in life of how things are coming out.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Of college football.
Speaker 9 (14:41):
So a lot of these young guys, you know, they
do struggle with certain certain things. Eric has an approach
and it's the way he does things, and he's not
going to change, and and and.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Because he believes in it.
Speaker 9 (14:49):
Jack has his approach, you know, having been a head coach,
I think Jack has a tendency to try and figure
guys out a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
As opposed to, Hey, this is it, this is the
way it's going to be.
Speaker 9 (14:59):
That's type of stuff where Eric, Eric hasn't had that experience.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Shot just when they came to you, it's just they
felt like Eric was riding them too hard. Well, they
just were a little concerned, all right.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So that was Ron and Vera talking about.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Okay, so let me start off by asking you this question.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Should we be concerned? Is this a big deal?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Then why is this getting out there? Why is this discussed?
Why is this becoming public it?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
My guess would be there are some people that have
perceived that as him throwing Eric b enemy under the bus.
That be enemy already has an issue with players there
in Washington that that's the way I've read it, which
I hear the quote. I see the quote and I go, okay, well,
(15:55):
let me hear the sound. You hear the sound, and
it landed differently from me, from Ron Revanna.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Well, I think it always hits different when you hear
someone's tone, right, you see, you hear the way they're
actually saying something, which you can't get lost in all
of this.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
It does seem like an odd time to have this
sort of conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
I mean, we're we're just now entering into the preseason
game portion of training camp. What what you used to
say was the toughest part of training camps over.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
It was not even really a tough part anymore for
training camp.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
But if if you want to label a portion of it,
that's what we just got got through. It's just odd
that this is becoming a subject. It's it's even odd
that it's being addressed. I'm not sure why it's it's
needed to be addressed. I'm not sure if if if
you know the question prompted the response to it because
(16:53):
some players have talked about it, or the media has
witnessed that. You know, Eric benemy Is had a reputation
of being an old school coach. He was a former player,
came from an era where coaches were a lot tougher
on you. And so there's some coaches who have continued
that approach, and some have said, like, I can't coach
anymore for that reason. And there's others who've adapted to
(17:17):
the type of players that they're getting now that don't.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Feed off of that.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So it's it's tough to know what exactly the end
game is unless you know you would be willing to
admit that Ron Rivera might be on the hot seat.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Is it fair to say that?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:35):
And who would take over? I Ron Rivera got fired.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Probably Eric b Enemy, Okay, Well, and so then you
have to wonder to yourself that if you you don't
start planning seeds that make people think that maybe Eric
Beenemy wouldn't be best suited for it. And maybe this
is one of the reasons why, especially with an organization
(18:00):
that's had issues in their own way from ownership and
the workplace, et cetera. But that'd be the other way
you'd go about looking at it, is that that's coming
out almost as a way of Ron Rivera kind of
putting up a shield or I guessed an obstacle for
the new brass new ownership in Washington to move on
(18:24):
from him and hire Eric b Enemy as a head coach.
Since the NFL has clamored for this, I mean they've
clamored in the off season for Eric Bnemy to be
hired as a head coach for quite some time.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
It hasn't happened.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
This would be the other way it could potentially happen,
and unfortunately it'd be at the dismay of Ron Rivera.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
You know, being a head coach there in Washington.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
If you were Eric Bienemy, would it bother you that
Rivera made those comments?
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I mean, he's my head coach, so no.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I mean the reality is, I don't know Eric ennem is,
you know, coaching style. I'm not sure you know how
he would take that. I mean, you have a head
coach you's speaking on what he's being asked about, and
it sounds like Ron Rivera's really truthful. I don't know
that there's anything to you know, pick a part to say.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Yeah, I mean, like the one thing about the enemy,
because he also spoke yesterday just about his approach and
his style.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
The one thing you can say about the enemy when
you hear him in.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
This clip, is that clearly humble, been through a lot,
doesn't think too highly of himself.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
And if you're.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Doubting the validity of that statement that we just made,
we'll take a listen.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Yes, I am intense and I would be afraid to
the start if I didn't know him. Eric b Enemy
is who he is, Okay, Eric Beenemy knows how to
adapt and adjust. Eric Bannemy is a tough, hard nosed coach,
but also under stay.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I'm going to be.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
The biggest and harshest critic, but I'm also the number
one fan because I've got day back and I'm going
to support them at all time.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, I mean so, so I already know what bothered
you in this clip. So just so our listeners understand,
Jonahs does not like when anyone talks a third person.
It's it's very seldom that I think most people actually do.
But immediately when we just listen to a clip from
Eric Ennebe talking about Eric Biennebe, that rubbed you the
(20:28):
wrong way.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I don't get it, man, I just I don't get it.
It's never landed well with me.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I can't imagine ever having a discussion with somebody and saying,
you know, Jonas Knox feels this sort of way, and.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
There's only one person who's been able to do it
and get away with it, and that is Ricky Henderson.
Ricky Henderson talking about himself the third person is quite
possibly the most quotable, amazing person at.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Talking third person.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Yes, he gets a pass.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
He's one of the Yeah, it's kind of like when
Charles Barkley can say things on television that nobody else
can say because he's got it's just sort of built in,
it's grandfathered in.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
He gets a pass.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Ricky Henderson, do whatever you want to do and talk
about yourself as much as possible. But I think, just
big picture, the reason why this didn't land wrong with
a lot of people is because they're really sensitive to
the Eric Enemy conversation and the discussion because nobody wants
to just say what A lot of people and You've
(21:31):
talked about this as well too on the air for
a couple of years, because the conversation about him getting
an opportunity has been floated out there for years. He's
interviewed and nobody and nobody wants to say, maybe he
just didn't interview well like, nobody wants to say there's
been a lot of and they want to go race
card and minority high. There's been a lot of minority
hires in the NFL since Eric Vienemy had his first
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head coaching interview.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I does it not have any sort of.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Possibility thrown in there that maybe he just doesn't interview
well and maybe something like that doesn't land well with
a lot of people who are looking to hire a
head coach who's got his approach that already isn't sitting
well with players in Washington, so much so that the
head coach had to talk about it before we even
get to the preseason game. Like, to me, I think
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that's a real possibility, and I think that may be
playing out here, but people are sensitive to it and
nobody wants to have just a real conversation about it.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Look, I think there's a lot of there's a lot
of parts of the hiring process.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
That need to be improved in the NFL. Bottom line.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, And I think the tough thing is there's probably
a percentage of people out there who don't interview well
but can do their job well. Right, those are two
different requirements. Right, there's a skill set that you have
to be able to apply it to any career, any job.
And you might be good at that, but you know
what you might not be good at being able to
sit in front of someone and sell them how good
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you are.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Based on that clip, I would think Eric Ennemy can
talk very well about Eric Pienemy in front of a
in front of an owner in an interview. But that
being said, you know, there's elements to the interview process
that he might not excel at where you know, don't
matter but it does to the hiring process, but it
doesn't matter to the actual job, right, And those are
some of the issues that I think every industry you
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know faces in regards to its hiring process.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But there's also this idea that will, hey, Eric b.
Enemy has been.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Their offensive coordinator and no, look at all the success
that Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs and they're having. Okay, well,
I guess we'll see, you know, how successful Washington's offense
is this year? Right with Eric B Enemy there, if
everyone's assuming that he's an offensive genius because of what
happened with the Chiefs, or I guess we'll see what
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happens with the Chiefs like, are they going.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
To take a step back without Eric B. Enemy?
Speaker 3 (23:53):
I mean I would have sat there and made the
statement that, you know, it doesn't matter that what the
Chiefs lost in Matt and Aggy and Doug Peterson, they still.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Move forward, right.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean the last time I checked Joan's tell me,
did they win a couple of super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah? They were okay.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
And also I would have said they probably would have
taken a step back after they lost Tyreek Hill and nope.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Nope, I mean one of the Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
So like, for the people out there who want to
use the accolades, the accomplishments of Eric B.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Enemy during his time with Kansas City and those you
know during that span, that's great.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
But yeah, like there's there's two main components to that formula,
and it's Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, right, Like, those
are the main two components, and then everything else is
complimentary of that, But it's not what makes the Chiefs
go at least not offensively speaking. So I think, look,
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the hiring process could be improved. There's people who are
sensitive that. That's why they get a little bit frustrated
with Eric B. Enemy not getting opportunities even though he's
been in OC. That's you know, h labeled OC even
though it's still any Reid call in the plays and
other people are.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Clamoring for that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Right, he'll get a shot now, he'll get this opportunity,
right Like, That's that's how this is probably gonna end
up working out. And I think to just bring it
full circle, it's probably why you're hearing Ron Rivera make
some of these public comments, is he wants to make
it very well known the coaching style and what Eric
the Enemy could end up being, or if there aren't
any issues with players, like kind of creating a little
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bit out of that awareness for it for saying like,
hey man, if there are issues, then then this is
something that like he might have to eventually address, especially
if you're getting out in front of it in training
camp and the season hasn't even started yet.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
It's also I think it would be pretty a realistic
possibility that Eric b enemy. Maybe he's a little bit
more frustrated at times because when you go from Patrick
Mahomes and everything that they've already built, as you pointed
out with Andy Reid, and then he's tasked with take
over a team that doesn't have Patrick Mahomes and doesn't
have all that success. Yeah, maybe he's getting a little
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bit more frustrated than he normally would. And maybe that
hasn't shown in practices in Kansas City, but it is
in Washington because he's not dealing with the kind of
talent that he was dealing with, and maybe there's an
adjustment on his end.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Regardless.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
I mean, yeah, he's going to get his opportunity, and
you know, it just depends on how people want to
take this and run with it. When it comes to
Ron Rivera, I would be surprised, though it does feel
like Ron Rivera is at least going to be safe
for this year, because I can't imagine new ownership would
come in and say, you know, they've had a problem
with you know, a lot of turnover here when it
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comes to head coaching. Now, I'm not even going to
give him the full season. Ron Rivera's gone and he's
just going to move on. Like, I would find it
hard to believe that Ron Rivera would be the first
coach fired or the first coach especially fired in season.
But I don't know, I could be reading the whole
thing wrong.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
So no, I think you're right. I mean, I think
they will probably take a patient approach. It's one of
which you reevaluate after the first year. I mean, I
think any new ownership, I mean, if they're smart the
way they go about doing it, You're not going to
come in and immediately start making a ton of changes.
You're gonna kind of come sit, observe, watch how things operate,
and then kind of move on from there and see,
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you know, based on your observation, your experience, and maybe
some of your consultation, how you go about trying to
implement the changes you want to make, and any big
decisions like that, you know, you kind of get together
after the season figure out, Okay, if we're going to
move on from a guy who's been a really good
head coach in the NFL, who are you gonna get?
We better have someone in mind that we feel really
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really good about selling to our fan base.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
And I've already told you my theory. I mean, like,
if Washington.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Finds themselves in the position to draft Caleb Williams, everyone
assumes Arizona is going to be that team with the
top overall pick, But let's say it's Washington. It's where
he's from Killboys, is from the DC area, and I
could see a scenario, you know, they offer Lincoln Riley
the job as well, and have those two come into
the NFL together.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And I think if if.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
You're Lincoln Riley, you'd have to contemplate it, if not
simply for the fact that it is the NFL. You've
got new ownership that's bring you in as their guy,
their head coach, and in that in that instance, you've
got your quarterback, which is our you know, a couple
of big, big reasons outside.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Of a huge payday why you'd want to do that.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
But again this are all hypotheticals and everything else, but
you could see how how that sort of thing could
could align pretty quickly.
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Right now, we turn it over to the old p
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whatever the hell it's called now.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
He is Petros Kapadakis. He is the co host of
the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
the blowtorch AM five seventy LA Sports. He's also an
analyst for Fox's college football coverage.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Petros, It's happening.
Speaker 10 (30:00):
Good morning, Good morning, everybody, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Is that Brady is LeVar? LeVar is not here.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
No, it's not he's not No, I know LeVar.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
He's not here, probably sitting on a nice LeVar Island
somewhere right, Yeah, what's that? It's it's just a long island,
but we call it a LeVar island.
Speaker 10 (30:19):
Not how gross loves them. How can you be in
your forties and drink that drink?
Speaker 4 (30:26):
He loves them, that's his favorite drink. I know. I
just don't get it.
Speaker 10 (30:31):
I used to have teammates that are like, I love
this drink and be like why because it's blue.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
It's like okay, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yeah, it's a bit much.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Called an audio mother effort. Have you ever had one
of these? It's so cool. It looks like wind decks?
What do they call it that? Petros Ap.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Got a hypothetical question for you, and this is not,
I mean purely hypothetical, but say there was a boat
that ended up crashing and sinking, okay, and there were
only four survivors on that boat and they're all in
the water, and you're.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
You must have been thinking about this all day.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Well, non, you're you're getting ready to throw out a
life vest, but you only got one beavers there it is?
That is your correct answer, that's who you say from
the PAC twelve. Yeah, I don't even have to think
about it now, why not Col? Why not Stanford? Why
not Wazoo?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Waszoo would be second?
Speaker 10 (31:32):
Why not Wazoo Because I've spent Thanksgiving in Lewiston, Idaho,
where there were no hotel rooms in Pullment. But no,
I love Wazoo and I love the Koogs and Martin
Stadium and I loved playing there when I was a
kid and all that. But I love the Beaves a
lot bes I'm a huge Beaver. And then Cal, I
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you know, look, I played at Cal briefly and I
love That's my favorite place to go. Was in the
conference and it still is, I guess. But you know,
Cal's been complicit in some of this. Everybody is. They
all have university presidents that allowed this to happen.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
So Stanford sound like you think, well, all this is
going on seems to be a little hullaballoon the conference.
Speaker 10 (32:24):
Oh anyway, Stanford is the one that really pisses me off.
But look, why do you think that the AAC and
the ACC are kicking the tires on the four teams
left in the PAC twelve. It's because they're controlled by ESPN.
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And that's what I've said to begin with. And I
don't have a problem with it. I've seen it happening
for so long that I guess I'm just reconciled stiled
to it. It sucks, but ESPN has now been boxed out,
like Dennis Rodman of the West Coast. They don't have
much of a footprint, if any, out here now with
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the way all the TV deals fell out and the
way the Pac twelve worked. So now they want to
have some kind of presence out on the West Coast.
Stanford and Cal academically makes sense because of the links
with teams like Duke.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Do the networks really care about that? I mean, that's
the university presence, right Petros.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (33:29):
I mean I think it's probably a little bit of
a mix, but I think the networks do care about
being able to fill all the slots during the day.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I'm saying the academic component.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
Is, oh no, the academic component nobody cares about. Yeah,
And you know what, nobody cares about the Olympic sports
and the non revenue sports. As great as they are
and as upset as some of these athletes are, there's
also kind of a reality check in there too. And look,
I have great respect for everybody team volleyball, all that stuff.
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You know, none of them get hit upside the head
like we do. But they're all working eight hour days
and trying to go to school, and they're they're an
elite athlete at a very high level, and we all
respect that, but also shouldn't there be some semblance of
understanding that football is the reason these sports exist at
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these schools.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Football is what funds.
Speaker 10 (34:26):
These sports at these schools, and football is going to
be king And if your coaches or administrators or recruiters
had any foresight, they would tell you, hey, get ready
for things to change. We're in a time of enormous
change in college sports. That part of it rings a
little hollow for me. Yeah, it's stupid that they have
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to travel more and all that, but it's stupid that
we have minor league football wrapped up in art institutions
of higher education. And look, we all make a living
on it and it's part of our identity. So whatever
that part of it, I just don't. I just I mean,
you knew this was happening. How could everybody be acting
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so surprised right now?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (35:12):
One hundred percent agree with you, And I think there's
like two trends of thoughts, Like there's a portion of
it where I'm kind of like, you know, who doesn't
get blamed in any of this is the NFL because
the NFL has never taken time to invest into a
developmental minor league system because they've always had college football.
But if they did, this issue, to me, wouldn't be
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as big of an issue as it is now. And
I don't think the landscape of college sports are but
in particular football would have gotten to this point because
kids didn't want to actually play in college and go
get an education. We'll go into the minor league system
and they go to the G League like that they're
in basketball, or they go overseas and play and they
come back to the draft. But because of the three
years you have to wait and there's no minor league system,
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a lot of footballers are forced to go to college
and they don't care at all, Like they're not going
to go to class, they're not going to get their
degree and they don't want to.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, and it's a tough balance.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
No, And and all I'm saying is is if there
was a minor league system, you could honestly say, like
I think.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
College football probably stays put.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
I don't know that you're seeing these drastic changes like
we're seeing. And I'm not saying like I'm pointing the
finger at the NFL, but it is I think a
talking point that no one really discusses is the differences
in every other sport from college to minor league to
pros that you don't see with football.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
And football is ultimately the.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Driver that's changing everything, at least the landscape of all
college sports.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
Yeah, and the football is the reason that we've built
these giant cathedrals to college sports. And in all of
these places, college men's basketball is a big deal. In
some places it is a revenue sport, but it's not
like a kingdom builder like football. I think it's a
valid point, Brady. Here's why I think it hasn't happened
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in the last hundred plus years. Nobody, nobody has got
the balls to march anywhere into one of these places
and take away college football. And I feel like if
the NFL did that, or tried to do that, or
created something other than just letting you know, Fox or
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ESPN or the Rock or whoever put together these little
one off leagues or the USFL and the stuff the
spring football stuff. If the NFL really did that, like, hey,
these are the Pittsburgh Steelers, Triple A team here in Poughkeepsie,
I think that you'd get a major pushback from their friends,
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their colleagues, their basically compatriots in college. It's been a
really weird marriage, but it's been a marriage for a
long time, and I think it's going to be kind
of hard to break that bond. If anything, time wise,
money wise, geography wise, college football is becoming more and
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more like the NFL. Right, you know, we're trying to
shorten the games, We're moving everybody around, and that's because
there's so much money being made. And once that money
started being made, you know, you started to and then.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
That happened one hundred years ago, Brady. I mean, this
isn't new.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
I mean this became revenue when Red Grange freaked out
and everybody on the East coast wanted to come see
him in the West, which was Illinois at that time.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
I do want to throw something at you because I
find this interesting, because this isn't my comments. This actually
comes from a coach formerly of the Pac twelve now
with a Big ten, who talked about ideally what this
model should be to preserve probably college sports and be
able to create the change that I think we're all
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looking for is why not have all these teams that
are moving into let's just call it the autonomous four
conferences between the Big twelve, acc SEC and Big Ten.
Why not just have them that call it whatever you want,
whatever other league you want, but just make them all independent.
Like if you actually look at Notre Dames model and
how all this realignments going to impact the college football playoff,
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why not just say, hey, look, we've got sixty teams right.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Between the what was the Power five? What was the
group of five?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Sixty teams, eighty teams, whatever it is, make them all independent.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
You could figure out how to now.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Do the scheduling portion based on, you know, the regionality
of it, so it's not as big of a burden
from a cost perspective. You could divide up those divisions
if you will, based on the region and then have
a playoff Like.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
Why is that, say difficult?
Speaker 10 (39:52):
We might be headed towards some kind of giant amalgamus league,
but I think you're view of it coming from Notre
Dame might be a little skewed. I mean Notre Dame
doesn't need anybody to sell Notre Dame, perdu needs Ohio State.
You know, That's why I watch, you know, I mean,
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that's what happened you but you can that's what happened
in the West. Once you pulled SC and UCLA out,
the whole thing collapsed in on itself. A lot of
these places can't stand but Petros.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
The argument too, though, is Ohio State still needs someone
to play. Like as much as there's those top tier
Ohio State, Michigan's, USC, UCLA, whatever the programs you're talking
on a conference, you still have to have other teams
for them to play.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
These schools don't just want to play each other.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
But god forbid, it's like the top thirty teams just
score off first each other to grudge batch every week.
Those schools survive year in and year out with the
money they make for being lumped in with Ohio State
and Michigan on their TV deal. And and I think
that's you know, as we talk through it, you know,
I think that would be the major stumbling block there.
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I just don't think, I mean, Notre Dame can afford
to do whatever they want. I mean, they can play
halfway into a league, put the rest of their sports
into a league. I mean, they're able to do all
these things that a lot of people can't because they
have such a recognizable brand. And we all thought, you know, Texas,
you know, hey, the Longhorn is just as recognizable as
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the ND or the Clover.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
And the truth is it wasn't.
Speaker 10 (41:30):
I mean, the whole Longhorn network thing, you know, sort
of fell apart, which is interesting.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
I don't know where.
Speaker 10 (41:39):
I mean, ultimately, they make too much money for it
to be the raw rah cis bumba pep rally college
football of the new Rockney days. Everybody does, right, There's
just way too much money being made, and the fact
that the schools are align and partnering and making literally
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billions of dollars on these TV deals and they still
don't pay the players the eighty five scholarships they're still
depending on, and to hell with the nil stuff. It's
still just rich guys trying to hang out with football players,
the same thing that's been happening for one hundred years.
These guys are paying the players in this weird, haphazard way,
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and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (42:28):
Let them pay the players that shouldn't be illegal, but that.
Speaker 10 (42:31):
Should not exclude the schools from paying up from what
they owe for the TV deal for the guys that
are at risk between the lines. And I don't know,
there's a thousand ways to set up the dominoes. Brady
and I agree. I mean, we could talk about it forever,
but ultimately, until you're doing that, I don't know. I mean,
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I know it's not amateurism, it's not all that stuff,
but all that stuff has been bastardized and thrown out
the window years ago.
Speaker 4 (42:58):
So we got to pay these guys.
Speaker 10 (43:00):
And until we're doing that, we're cheating in a big way.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
It's a rev share.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
I've said this forever, like how they're not getting a
piece of it, and I understand the steps to get there.
There has to be a union or at least someone
negotiating up.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
With Title nine, you know, stands in your way, and
that's why you have to get out from under the umbrella.
Speaker 5 (43:19):
Yeah, hey, Patris, you got in the old pack ten
pack twelve gear that just went up in value because
the conference went to craps got eating freaking.
Speaker 10 (43:27):
Ear pods, dude, Yeah, I got that pack twelve ear pods.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Man, where'd you get those?
Speaker 4 (43:32):
From freaking Pack twelve dinner?
Speaker 10 (43:34):
Yeah, one of the last suppers that I went to, Hey,
did you get this year's gift?
Speaker 4 (43:40):
It was like a bag. No, I just left it.
It was a Lulu lemon bag. Oh yeah, I don't
need that. They were so can I. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
I'm kind of scared to say this publicly, but I
guess the conference might not even exists.
Speaker 4 (43:52):
It doesn't.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Yeah, So so I'm literally leaving heading up the escalator,
and some of them, the Pack twelves, like oh, did
you get your gift?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Did you get your gift? I was like, oh no,
I I tried to, like it was like no, no, no,
you have to come get the gift. Yeah, there's a
pile of it and nobody wants it.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
No one wanted to, and so like I was the
guy who was like holding the bag going up the escalator,
looking at everyone like yep.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
Tight lead to your chest like a purse.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Honestly, I was holding it thinking like can I drop
this at the top of the escalator and will anyone
judge me or notice? Like can I get away with
like or security going to think I'm like dropping off
a bomb inside a stadium, like, is this going to
be an issue?
Speaker 4 (44:31):
And so I just I decided to take it with it.
Speaker 10 (44:32):
Well, uf it said Pac twelve on it. You knew
it was going to explode in a certain amount of time.
I do have to say, you know, Brady moves amongst
these people like Caesar, you.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
Know, just gracefully floating around. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
You know, you look around. You see the Arizona State coach.
You know, he's a young ass dude.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
You know.
Speaker 10 (44:55):
You see Merton Hanks and his long neck. Yeah, and
there's Brady just just just.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Gliding across the floor like.
Speaker 10 (45:02):
A Russian ballerina with his package all tight in there,
just looking great.
Speaker 5 (45:06):
Yeah, shoulders, broad shoulders.
Speaker 4 (45:10):
You never see the nutcracker?
Speaker 10 (45:13):
Yeah, you know the ballet they were Tchaikowski, I think
you know, my sister was a ballerina. So I have
to sit through it every year, and you know it's
hard to forget, you know, when the clock strikes and
the door opens and here comes that nutcracker and he's
like a swoll ass ballerina dude with a big ass
package jacked but has like a huge puppet head on.
Speaker 4 (45:36):
Yeah, and and Brady does.
Speaker 10 (45:39):
Look a little like that to me, just swoll giant
nutcracker head gracefully gliding across the floor.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
Like you straddling a duffel bag.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
Yeah, if only this segment, because I did like three
minutes ago like a Lulu lemon man.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
If only this could have ended three minutes ago, it
would have been the perfect segment. Pah No.
Speaker 10 (46:00):
I mean, look, we had our deep college football conversation,
but I just want you guys to watch. You look
up on YouTube where.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
It goes guess who up and there he is. He
kills the rat king.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Do you do you watch any of these football like
do you watch Hard Knocks?
Speaker 4 (46:24):
Do you watch the Johnny You.
Speaker 10 (46:25):
Know, I thought you guys were going to ask me
about it, and I didn't watch it Johnny Football, I
mean just the quarterback one bugs me because they call
a run play and then he goes and throws a
pass play and it's like, where's the continuity, guys.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Here's what we found out for the Johnny Football one
is he apparently went he got drafted in the NFL
and then did watch any film. And Johnny and his
agent are almost like, I don't want to say bragging
about it, but but they're like they're they're admitting that, like,
oh yeah, that had nothing to do with his career
not working out in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
I mean, is that frowned upon? I'm watching it.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Hey, we also learned, Petros.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
We also learned, uh, and I have it on good
authority that you're a fan of charcuterie boards. I love
a charkoon, all right, So we just wanted to get
your thoughts on the pronunciation of a charcuterie board from
John Franklin Myers of the Jets last night on home did.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
He drop us charshootery.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Let's listen.
Speaker 4 (47:23):
I want to go to Broadway, so I want to
eat a Carcucci board.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
Let's go carcudie.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
I'm not sure if that's the word of the day
coming up with.
Speaker 10 (47:38):
I remember I trying to order like a cipedo once. Uh,
and I was called it a cloppy.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
You know that was good?
Speaker 2 (47:45):
Uh Cacucci, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (47:47):
Give me that carcuch I was gonna sit down and
watch it, uh, like before.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
We did the show today, like.
Speaker 10 (47:54):
I was gonna I'm gonna take I was gonna take
a piece of it, just because you know, I want
to act.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
Like I was in the now.
Speaker 10 (48:00):
But I turned on the TV and Cleopatra with Liz
Taylor and Richard Burton was on, so I just left
that one better option.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Yeah. Well, hey, Petros, hopefully i'll see this Friday.
Speaker 4 (48:11):
You're gonna be are You're gonna come to Thousand Oaks?
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Come on, man, what about you?
Speaker 4 (48:14):
Brady the home game. I will actually be in Ohio.
I've got my annual charity event coming up.
Speaker 10 (48:20):
I'm gonna need you to fly across the country first
and check us out at the Tarantella.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
Hill Brewing Company.
Speaker 10 (48:26):
Hell yeah, two o'clock on Friday in Thousand Oaks, California,
home of the Lancers.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Yep, that's correct, Yeah, that is correct.
Speaker 3 (48:36):
Well, Jonas will be representing me as part of the
part of the crew.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
You know, I was in o High for a week there, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Oh listen, you're Ventura County through and through.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Now you're Ventura County.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Oh yeah, listen.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
OHI is super nice.
Speaker 10 (48:51):
It's lovely, Yeah, artisable food, crunchy groovers.
Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (48:58):
A lot of hippies, yeah, a lot of Every once
in a while you run into somebody who like it
seems like their occupation is cultivating body odor.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
That's kind Jonas.
Speaker 10 (49:08):
You know, you can see my wife and I like
riding around on cruiser bikes looking like two huge dorps,
ringing the bell. Yeah, wearing my helmet.
Speaker 4 (49:18):
I'm sure.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
I'm sure you get recognized though. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
I don't know why that is, but you're right.
Speaker 10 (49:26):
I would never say that ever, or I would never
volunteer that information. But yeah, yeah, I found that a
lot of the white people knew me.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, that is true. I get him on Twitter.
Speaker 10 (49:39):
There's a thick faced white guy looks like a fat Morrissey.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Oh he knows me.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
He is.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
Petros Papa is the co host of the Petros and
Money Show. Fox College Football Analyst.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Thanks to me. We appreciate it.
Speaker 10 (49:54):
There's that USC fan guy.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
That's me, sure, brother.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
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