August 10, 2023 • 50 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys are all-in on the Panthers this year thanks to Bryce Young’s “It Factor.” The good and bad news in college football today includes travel plans and controversial t-shirts. Plus, Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys amid his Training Camp Tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Labar Arrington, Rating Win and Jonas Knox on Boxtors.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio This Jets Panthers joint practice. We open up the
show talking about Aaron Rodgers maybe a little frustration with
the way things have gone. They were supposed to practice
later on today. Yeah, that ain't happening. It has been canceled.
The Carolina Panthers have announced the cancelation of the practice.
(00:31):
They cited weather and safety concerns as the reason for
the cancelation. Is they were set to go go in
and do battle at the training camp there in Spartanburg,
South Carolina, at the Wafford College campus. So it's not happening.
The second training camp practice will not get done. And
(00:51):
so now Rogers has got to wait a little bit
longer to try and get the offense more in sync
than they were yesterday. But one of the things that
Rogers did talk about yesterday was his thoughts on Bryce
Young of the Carolina Panthers, and he's obviously shares an
agent with Bryce Young. Adam Thielen is a close friend
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of Aaron Rodgers. He is now a member of Carolina
and so Rogers spoke about his thoughts on the number
one overall pick and the Panthers rookie quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I like the kid a lot. We have we share
an agent, so I've known about him for a long time.
I love watch him at college. I like his demeanor,
I like his movement, I like the way he throws.
I trust a guy like Adam. You know him and
I good buddies for a long time, and he just
raves about him. So I think Caroline is a good answer.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Here's my question.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And by the way, Adam and Adam feelin I believe referring.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, let's see, you know, in the presentation, I said
Adam Thielen is a good friend, you know. But here's
my question for you. How could everybody be wrong? Because
I haven't heard anybody who's dealt with Bryce Young, been
around Bryce Young, played with, had any sort of interaction
with him on the field or off the field, say
(02:05):
anything but glowing things about him. The only thing you
heard was while he's undersized, Like, how could everybody be
wrong in their assessment that this is going to work
with Bryce Young?
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I mean, again, there's things that are outside the control
of Bryce Young and the Carolina panthersn't all involved, right,
I'm not gonna you know, injuries are obviously one thing
that can impact your career.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
He's been fortunate enough not to deal with too much
of that.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
He to me, is the type of player when you
watch him, everyone talks about the quarterback position and you know, oh,
he's got it. Have you ever heard that phrase when
coaches talk about all they have it? Or even maybe
in a different industry, right, even in radio, you get
certain personalities, certain people You're like, I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I can't describe it. They just have it.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Bryce Young has it, and I think it's very easy
for everyone to see what that is. They can't really quantified,
you know, in a certain way or qualitatively, like explain
what exactly it is.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
He just is everything.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
That you look for in a quarterback from a leadership standpoint,
from the way he communicates, from the way he carries himself,
from the way he plays the game. He just understands
how the game is supposed to be played. And he's
one of those unique talents that when you come across
someone like him, they're such an outlier.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
They're so different from other people that you've been.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Around, and they're so consistently that like, that's the one
thing that I think at the NFL level differentiates the
greats from the goods, from the average to the everybody else,
is their consistency at being.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Able to display that it factor. Because we throw on
that term often.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
And there are instances or moments where you see a
guy I have a great season, you see him have
a great game, you see him have a great whatever
it is, and you say, yeah, he's got it, like I've.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Seen it before.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
But the difference between guys that like get to the
Patrick Mahomes level or an Aaron Rodgers level, or Tom
Brady or whoever you want thrown in the conversation, they
sustain it. They're able to consistently be at that level
where you see that special uniqueness of the way they play,
the way they carry themselves, the where they operate. They
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do it all the time. It's not like part of
who they are, it's who they are. And that's why
I think he is so special. It's why you saw
Carolina jump up to take him where they did. I
don't think there is any any hesitation that it was
about Bryce Young, that it's no disrespect to the quarterbacks
in this draft class. If you'd been around the other
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quarterbacks in this draft class, you come away and you say,
that's the one that I don't have any questions about.
You just look and go, Okay, smaller in size, so what.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
So what? He can go win? He can go win
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I mean, I'm telling you, I'm sure Nick Saban behind
closed doors was as glowing talking about him to every team,
specifically Carolina, as he's ever been for any player.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, because I've never seen Nick Saban during his time there.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
When a press conference end, make Will Anderson, who's the
other player he probably spoke lonely about and Bryce Young
both sit back down so he could publicly praise them.
Like when's the last time you saw Nick Saban do
that to any football player he's ever had? Like I
remember watching that thinking, wow, like what's he gonna say?
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And then in Nick Saban's way where he's always tempered
with his compliments, that was like as good.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
As it gets.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
That's like an outside the norm of Nick Saban doing
something he's never done, when he's never overly flatter flattered
a player.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
He did that for Bryce Young, Will Anderson.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I think I spoke volumes about probably what he was
raving about behind closed doors, even though he takes a
more measured approach.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean that Belichick does the same thing, and talking
about Lawrence Taylor, he does the same thing talking about
Matthew Slater. Like when you hear those guys who are
sort of you know, curmudgeons or maybe don't give a
compliment here or there, when they're glowingly speaking about certain players,
it just means more. And yes, Saban was all about
Bryce Young and Will Anderson, and then you.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Know, those guys don't use hyperbole right like they use
like like they just don't ever give out compliments, like
when they say he's a great player, Like they don't
call everyone a great player.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
They're just measured.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean, Saban gets a little bit more hot and
bothered than Belichick does publicly and likes to pound the
podium a little bit more. But yeah, they don't hand
out those sort of compliments to just anybody.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And still knowing all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That and hearing all that and listening to you predict
months ahead of time that Brung was going to be
the Heisman Trophy winner and do it at ten to
one odds at the time of your state.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
He's gonna have been Rookie of the Year. Get it,
and get it now while you still can't at five
to one.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But still I took the bait, hook line and sinker
that CJ.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Stroud was going to go number one over all of
the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Still after having all that information, all that intel, and
I still look like a horse's ass because I saw
the betting odds move and I just assumed, oh God,
somebody must know something.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Stroud's going to go number one overall, and it got
as high as three to one in favor of c J. Stroud.
And now we're sitting here talking about Bryce Young looking
like outside injury or anything else. I can't miss prospect
for the Carolina Panthers, and the betting odds would say
five to one, still not moving in the favor of
Bryce Young to be Rookie of the Year. Jean Robinson's
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still getting all the love there. So there's there's the
update on your Rookie of the Year, which, by the way,
I think Jean Robinson was it was either third on
the depth chart at running back for the Falcons, so
maybe maybe a little bit of trouble there Brady Quinn
in Atlanta, Maybe no, he'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
The way they utilize them, it's those opening depth charts.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
It's like, who did Mike Mike Tomblin had Darnell Washington.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's like the fourth tight end, which.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I'm like, okay, like he's he's gonna immediately race up
the depth chart to eventually be starting for them or
playing very soon.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
In the two tight end sets and so forth.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
That's just a lot of coaches want them to, you know,
earn it when they get in these preseason games and
showcase the ability to do it, and and then look
that that's all part of the culture they're trying to create.
And so there's nothing wrong with that. But you can't
always believe what you see on some of these opening
training camp depth charts and preseason depth charts because that's
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going to change drastically once they have the final cut
and you're cutting away you know thirty some players, you know,
almost forty some players from your roster.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
All right, So now I do have a question for here,
because in talking about Bryce Young, there is another prop
bet that's out there. Curtis of our friends of DraftKings, is.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
This touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, you want to guess, or you want me to
give you the number and you tell me.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Movie, Oh guess the over unders said at twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And a half twenty two and a.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Half over jeez over.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, I'm just look, I know I've been overly complimentary
of him.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I comb through college film and you don't see players
play the game like he does.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
He he it's.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Almost like he's got the ability to slow down time
with as poised as he is, the way he's I know,
it sounds like he's like a superhero, but I've never
seen a kid be so poised and be able to
play the game and then move quickly but reset and
make throws into windows. You're like, my god, he made
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that look so easy and it is incredibly difficult. He's
just he's a special, special talent.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So it that that's the feeling there. So you heard
it here first and again. This is somebody who called
it at ten to one Heisman Trophy winner months before
it happened, watching an Alabama spring game, and we're telling
you five to one you can get Bryce Young.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
The Panthers go to the playoffs, that has.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
One efforting here. You know, this just efforting here. We
are formulating the numbers because we go by calculations.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So yeah, there's a lot of what.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Do you want to type in some of that? So
while you're doing this, you can.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean listen, I have it right here. I mean
I just yeah, because there's a lot of there. We've
got pages and pages of research here that.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
We have done.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
We're old school on this show. We don't care about trees.
Screw your trees.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
We'll cut them down.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, we'll cut them down and uh and use the
printer and print all this stuff out. The odds for
the Panthers to make the playoffs. Yes, is plus two
to zh five. No is minus two forty five to
two to one. Baby on the Carolina making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Take you right now, take it right now.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So we are all in on the Carolina Panthers. And
if this season goes offul for him. This entire segment
was deleted from the podcast.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It won't happening.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It'll be better than what it's been in the past.
What were there seven to ten team last year?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I don't even know. And furthermore, who cares, you know?
But we care now the Panthers are back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
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Speaker 2 (11:37):
So, Brady Quinn, I don't know if you're aware of this.
You know, this is something I want to I want
to make sure I'm keeping you up on game on something.
But the college football season kicks off not long from now,
I know, notre dan Na.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
You'd think, I mean, do you think all the teams,
all of the coaches, the players, the people around those organizations,
that the people who are covering that sport, you know,
whether it be domestic or even internationally.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Do you think they've got everything all buttoned up and
ready to go?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah, come on, you think so?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I mean even like logistics and travel and things like that.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You think they've got that all button Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Listen, I mean, you know, passports, everything dialed in. I mean,
everybody's good to go.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, it would be uh, I mean, you know, coming
up quick. So I would imagine, you know, why would
they leave it, you know, cuinding it so close?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
God forbid?
Speaker 6 (12:31):
And then then the one thing is like you got
to make sure you have the return flight coming back,
like God forbid, you get you get the flight to
go over there. But I mean, for example, I'm gonna
bring in Iowa salmon for this. Could you imagine Iowa, Sam,
you know the hawkeys, which they probably just would bus,
you know, from Iowa City to Ames, But can you
imagine if they didn't have return plans, like they were
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just sitting there, sitting ducks there or sitting hawkeys I
guess in this case in Ames, Iowa?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Could you imagine the scenario like that?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I can't. Yeah, what's a better place? Ames or Iowa City?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Iowa City?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Really?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah? Not even it's not even debatable. Yeah is that
a fair Sam?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, listen, Brady's a neutral party, and uh them be
the words.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, I don't know, I've heard different. But again, you know,
I'm more of an Iowa insider than a lot of people.
But that's that's neither hear nor there. But nonetheless, the
season is fast approaching in college football. We've got Navy
and Notre Dame in Dublin, Ireland. You know that's going
to be a fun one for everybody that goes over
and attends and has everything dialed in and has their
passports and stuff set up. So everyone's really excited for
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that to being the first game of the season. There's
been a lot of controversies in the world of college football.
I feel like a lot of it's been very negative.
So I got to ask you a question. We've got
two stories that we're going to hit on when it
comes to college football. Do you want something that's got
a little bit of a negative connotation or something that's
got more of a positive connotation, like like a little
bit of a kind of a bright spot.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
It's positive. You know, it's a Thursday. Let's start positive
with our day.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Step right up. Troy Taylor, Yeah, coy head coach of Stanford.
Love Troy and Stanford's one of the one of the
teams the Pac twelve that's kind of looking around going, okay,
now what there's been some discussions about how this whole
thing is going to play out with the remaining teams
in the Pac twelve and what the plan is going
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to be. And so the discussion came with and you've
talked about this, the travel for some of these Pac
twelve teams, you know, is travel going to be an issue.
Is there going to be a problem. You know, with
all these teams traveling, everybody's pointing at all the negative stuff,
and Troy Taylors of Stanford decided to take a different approach.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No bitching, no moaning.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Just the truth, just honesty and really appreciative of any
opportunity they get.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
I'm okay with traveling. I just our guys left play football,
you know, and you've got to travel a little more.
That means when people come play offs, they got to travel.
So you know, we're we just want to we want
to play football. We want to be in a great conference.
And uh we're we're sure that will happen. And the
travel if that happens.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
In his fine assistant.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
You know, people used to have to come to cross
the country in a covered wagon. You know, it'd be
take a month and maybe completely different people by the
time they got there. You know, we get on a
plane for five hours, six hours, that's that's not the
end of the little you know, you get get drink.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Served to you and and some snacks and it's it's
not it's not that bad. What a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
He's the best man, so I got to I got
to sit down, ironically, I got to sit down with
one of the teams that's that's not been a part.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Of the realignment so far. I got to sit with.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Bernard Muir, who's the athletic director there at Stafford, along
with coach Troy Taylor at the Pact twelve dinner. And
I had such a refreshing conversation with Coach Taylor. He's
got an incredible perspective, so it's not surprising to hear
him say like, hey, I'm okay with that, Like what's
the big deal we got to travel? Okay that it
doesn't it doesn't matter to me, one of the things.
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And and look, he understands the challenge that he's undertake and
taking over a Stanford programs that struggled of late.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But one of the best things.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
We had a conversation just about, you know, his philosophy
and how he sees things, and he said, oh, he's like, well,
he goes yeah, He's like, we're gonna like put the
pedal to the metal, you know. And then he obviously
for people who don't know his background, he's coming from
Sacramento State.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
He was actually a high.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
School coach at fulsome high school where he had a
ton of success offensive mind.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Former NFL quarterback had a ton of success.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Though in high school and ended up you know, leading
to him having success to a sack state. But his
common to me and I honestly, for as long as
I had played and then been around the sport, I
had not had a coach say this to me, and
at least in this way. He goes, well, yeah, every
single kind of game we're trying to blow someone out.
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I'm like, well, I was like, well, yeah, I get that.
But he's like, no, no, no, He's like, he's just you
have to understand, he goes. You know, situational football is
one of those things you could rep it, you can
practice it, he goes, But he goes, what it comes
down to the game time scenario of executing you know,
situational place, third down, red zone, two minute, you know,
end of game plays, he goes. You know, you could
do everything right in the game of football, you could
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still lose, he goes. So we try not to leave
it up to those moments, like we don't want to
have to try to win the battle of you know,
winning these specific scenarios every single week, Like He's like,
we'd like to beat it by two or three scores.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
He's like, so when we get up, we're gonna stay up.
We're gonna keep pouring it on. And I was like,
this is awesome.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Like I've literally never heard a coach basically say like
I'm trying to remove the margin of error either from unluckiness,
from human mistake, or just from the sheer fact of players,
you know, making some mistakes by just trying to constantly
blow teams out. And so we'll see how it plays out.
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It may have to be playing itself out in the
ACC as opposed to the PAC twelve after this year.
But the truth is he's got a really optimistic, refreshing
way of looking at things, and I'm kind of excited
to see like where it goes for Stanford. But look,
they don't really have a choice either. You know, when
you're all this is happening in college sports, you just
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want to be part of the party. And that's what
part of this is about at this point, is for Stanford,
for Cal for even Washington State, who I feel bad
because they're not even part of any of the discussions.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
At this point.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
You want all those student athletes and those schools to
be a part of whatever this realignment turns into, even
though they'll be leaving behind the PAC twelve. And look,
I understand there's a lot of PAC twelve people out
there who went to school back when I was the
PAC ten or you know, however you want to define
the conference. But you know, we're moving on, like everyone's
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going to move on from that. And due to poor
leadership and probably lack of accountability or responsibility for a
lot of the poor decisions or lack of decisions made,
that's where you got to this point.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
So you know, you don't really have anyone.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
To blame but the leaders that are all on and
at some point you just got to move on to
whatever the next thing is.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It just feels like the last couple of years, when
you hear a coach talk, it's always something about NIL
and the problems with NIL or something about conference realignment
or something about somebody's getting this or recruitment or something
like that. And this guy goes, listen, man, we used
to travel in covered wagons. We're grateful to hop on
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a plane and go anywhere to play football. It's like, okay,
just straight straight to the to the bottom line.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I think it's actually the Opportunity K comedy Skip.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
By the way, I'm not sure if it was Lewis
DK or someone else, but he essentially talked about the
miracle of airlines air travel. Yeah, it takes you thirty
years to get across across in the organ trail or
back in like a wagon, and your lives will be
entirely different.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
You lost some family members, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well, I mean you're just you're you're dealing with the elements.
Like what about if you're riding on horseback, you're dealing
with the elements. Your weathered, you smell like, you've got
to deal with all the other crap that comes along
with it. And nowadays people complain if they've only got
peanuts and not pretzels on a flight. You know which,
By the way, do you go pretzels or peanuts on
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a flight?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
What do you go with?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I do neither?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, me neither.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I was just asking for a friend, just maybe just
trying to see. Now, now let's get to what we've
known college football to be in a lot of parts,
the negative aspect of college football. So apparently Northwestern's had
a little bit of an issue in their locker room.
You know, that's been a story that's been out there,
hazing all the other stuff that came along with it.
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As that story came out over the past several weeks,
and athletic director Derek Gragg had to speak about just
sort of the tone def T shirts that were worn
by assistant coaches in the first practice.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
As they get ready for the season.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
These T shirts had Northwestern against the World. They had
a number fifty one on it for their former head
coach Fitzgerald. Pat Fitzgerald, who played and was a multiple
time All Pro or not All Pro, but he was
a multiple time first team All American defensive player for Northwestern,
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and he was the guy who was fired and considered
to be sort of in the know on all these
things that had gone on in Northwestern. And so now
you've got assistance wearing this, You've got this picture floated
out there on July twenty seventh, where it's not the
first time you had a player showing support for Pat
Fitzgerald and wearing one of these shirts. It just feels
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like maybe they didn't handle the punishments or maybe handle
the cleaning up of this process. And I don't know
if they just didn't have time, because they didn't have
time to put together a full staff and replace everybody,
but it feels like not everybody's on the same page
at Northwestern again with a season right around the corner
there for the Wildcat.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Yeah, so just a piece of this whole thing together
so everyone gets a full picture.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Of what's happened.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
There was a T shirt worn that said Cats against
the World and it had the number fifty one on them,
and players as well as coaches have kind of warned
them over the past what's the day, August ninth, they've
they've worn them over the past few weeks. Yeah, and
there's this photo circulated to the point where and it
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was an older photo which lends.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Me to this next point.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
But with the athletic director of Northwestern has to come
out and make a statement not condoning the shirts and
you know them being tone deaf and all the other
pr statements that you make about it. But their shirts
were designed by people who obviously were in support of
Pat Fitzgerald and his defense of what he's being accused of.
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That he was, you know, allegedly knew of what was
going on with the hazing, etc. And obviously now no
longer is a part of the you know, a part
of the university. And so there was coaches and players
who feel like that's bs and they wanted to show
support for Pat Fitzgerald in that way. And here's the
reality of the situation is all we know at this point,
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at least on the outside, is that these are allegations.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I don't know for a fact of any of it.
Do you know for a fact of anything that occurred.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
All we have at this point is comments that were
made by former players here and former players on both sides,
and most this stuff didn't happen. You had about what
ten to fifteen that said something did happen that cross lines.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
And so all we have.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
At this point is disgounlement from a ten or fifteen
players that goes against what's being said about other players
and coaches on the other side of it.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Okay, So that's all we have on the outside.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
And yet because they're so concerned about the public perception
of hazing and the ulch there at Northwestern, they've got
to naturally respond to it. When we don't, like no
one really knows the facts of it, people want to
act like everything, some of these the allegations that were
made were factual. We don't know that. We weren't there,
we weren't a part of it. And even though it's
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damning in the event that if it is true, I
don't know that we should presume that Pat Fitzgerald and
all parties involved in the players and coaches were all
aware of it and guilty of it like that that
they will come a time when all that sorts itself out.
But it brings up the light two things. The first
is the athletic director obviously just now responded to it.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yeah, this is a week's old photo.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
So clearly, not only from the fact of whatever Pat
Fitzgerald's been accused of, if he's been accused of that,
because he was supposed to have the oversight and the
knowledge of what was happening in the locker room, should
the athletic director too, why is he still a part
of the Northwestern program?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
That's the first question I have.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
The next is, and you said it like there wasn't
gonna be enough time for them to move on from
the entire coaching staff, the interim head coach to it.
It's kind of just got there, so it's not like
he's been a part of this program for a while.
But if you did feel like what they did was
true and so egregious that you needed to move on,
you'd move on from everyone. He would just move on
from the head coach and say, okay, slap a band
aid on this, let's just push through the season. But
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that was the position they were in because they wouldn't
have a football season if that.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Was the case. So the Northwesterns found themselves in this mess.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
And unfortunately, like they've they've got to respond to stuff
like this when players who still might support fits Heeral,
who might you know, think this is BS, want to
you know, want to utilize their first a memory. They
have every opportunity to want to support their former head coaches.
They want to, that's the right. They might feel like
it's all BS and how this is impacting their college
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career and now it's impacting their you know, athletic career
and how it ends. So there's there's that aspect of it,
and I think there's the other assspec of it where
you say, well, okay, but at this point, like what
does it matter the season starting, they're trying to turn
a new leaf. Like, if we keep going back and
rehashing all of this, maybe Northwestern will They're never going
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to be able to get past this at some point.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And one of the things that happened when the Minnesota
claims came out against you know, j Fleck and the
program and all that stuff, is that you had players
both current and past, who came out and spoke out
in support of him and just the impact he had
on them as human beings and all that. Like, there
are people that are going to support you. It feels
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like Pat Fitzgerald and again we don't know everything that happened,
but so far he's the lone fall guy because he's
the only one that lost his job and it's got
his name written all over it. But to your point,
also the athletic director who speaks out they're wearing these
T shirts at practice on Wednesday. There's a photo that
comes out on July twenty seventh. Dude, I would assume
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if this scame is as big of a scandal as
everybody has made it out to be, and you're that
concerned about it and how the program looks, that a
you would have gotten ahead of it and asked about
the picture that was out on July twenty seven, and
you would have just been aware, like I would assume
you'd have everything buttoned up on your end to make
sure nothing else came out to look make our program
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look any worse.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Than it did.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And instead he's just reacting to something that happened on Wednesday,
and everyone's like, hey, what about the picture from a
couple of weeks ago?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh, yeah, that too.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's like, why don't you know that if you're the
athletic director, why aren't you privy to that information? Or
why isn't somebody that works underneath you letting you know? Hey,
just so you know, this is out there and there's
a player and an assistant coach involved on this picture
that floated out on July twenty seventh on social media.
I don't know, man, the whole thing's a disaster, like
it just feels like. And there's probably a lot of
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people that had nothing to do with any of the
claims who just want to play football and get ready
for a season, and this has derailed all that.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
The coach's careers who are part of it, their families obviously,
who are impacted, you know by as they'll probably be
selling their house looking for a new place to go,
coach and live after this year. The players who are
involved clearly at impacts not only their ability to have
the sort of success they were hoping for, but even
more so than that, just their their overall experience and
how it comes to an end. I mean, again, I'm
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biased in the sense of from all the times I've
been around Pat Fitzgerald, and I've said this to people,
he would have been the type of coach that if
I was being recruited when I was coming out, I
would have heavily weighed Northwestern, obviously for the academics, but
also for him because of the type of leader he was.
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From every conversation we had talking about ball, talking about
you know, developing young people. I mean, you would have
never ever felt like these allegations were true if you
had the opportunity to spend some time around Pat Fitzgerald,
and if they were true, it was something that was
completely hidden away from him because the people who were
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are the players who were implementing this or creating this,
didn't want their head coach to know because they know
they'd get kicked off the team.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
They know they'd get in trouble with him and.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
So that's the Pat Fitzgerald that I know, and that's
why it's so hard for me to sit here and
listen to all of this, because he's the type of
guy that would never stand for some of the allegations
and stuff they're talking about.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
And what I know from my experience as a player,
being in the NFL and being in colleges and especially college,
if you wanted to.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Find five to six, seven, eight, nine, ten guys who
are just scruddled, who would fabricate things, or make things up,
or even stretch the truth of things just so they
could get attention or just so they could get back
on someone on any given year, you could find that.
You could find guys who didn't want to work hard.
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You could find guys who didn't didn't like the ultra
they signed up for, and they didn't like the reality
of how much tougher things were and being away from
mom and dad and trying to adapt to college life
where you're on your own and things are harder, you
have more responsibility. You could find that every single year
that came in in that freshman class or that eventually
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went up the ranks and they're like, well, I don't
want to quit because I want a scholarship.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
I want to get my degree from here.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
You could find that we had guys like that, and
the coaches would do their best to push them and see, hey,
all right, let's see, let's see how far we can
take this, to see if these guys want to be
a part of this or if they're just gonna quit,
because a lot of them will kind of drag things down,
and you could tell they wanted to quit, but they
wanted the degree, they wanted the free education.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
That's always the case.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
And so in my mind, I listened to all that
and I go, yeah, it's not far removed from some
people who probably wanted to get back at a head
coach that wanted to push them, that was trying to
help develop it in a way that was probably difficult
and hard on them. And instead now they stretch the
truth of hey, or whatever, the culture was created.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And also to your point on Pat Fitzgerald's reputation, the
last two times the Bears have been hiring a head coach,
people in Chicago wanted Pat Fitzgerald to get a look
like they loved him, like people love him in that city.
And so just to see where this whole thing has headed.
It's unfortunate, and now we wait to see again season
a couple of weeks away Northwestern as well as others
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trying to get ready for their first game of the
season at Rutgers, and this whole thing is just continuing
on there in Illinois.
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right now, we turn it over to our guy, Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer ab. What's happening? Good morning to.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
You, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
What's odd to me is Jonas keeps calling Twitter twitter?
I mean, isn't it like X now? Is that how
we should refer to it?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Or what about that?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But what do you call it? Albert?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
I mean, I still call it twitter. That sounds weird,
doesn't it. I don't know, like anybody would really like.
The thing is like, if you say Twitter, everybody knows
what you're talking about. If you say X, Like if
somebody said, and I'm on there every day, if somebody
said X to me, it would take me a second
to realize what the hell they were talking about.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
You know. It sounds like a U problem, not a problem.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, well, but it's just I'm just trying to be
efficient here, Brady, and I'd be the most efficient way
to communicate with people here. Is it called Twitter?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I would agree Albert. I'm team Albert here, that's for sure.
I'll tell you that, Hey, Albert.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Can I choose Albert? I want? So it feels like.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
There's some sort of magic trick being pulled off in
San Francisco. So you were just at forty nine Ers
training camp and you saw the team up close and personal,
and it's like, yeah, we're getting ready for a season
where a Super Bowl contender and rock Party is going
to be our starting quarterback. And it's almost like they
figured out a way to get everybody to pay attention
to all that stuff and not the fact that the
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guy they traded up a grip of first round picks
for to take top three overall is battling it out
with Sam Darnold for the backup job.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
What the hell's happening that?
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Well, it would be a much bigger deal if they
didn't wind up with Brock Perdy, who they believe And
we can argue about this if you want. They believe
these are legitimate starting quarterback with you know, some upside
and you know, the weird thing about it is and
I you know, if you go back to the decision
to take Trey Lance over Mac Jones, because that's really
what it was two years ago. Really, the logic for
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Kyle Shanahan was pretty simple. It was half the league
is running my offense, and that means half the league
is practicing against my offense. And so now what we've
been doing here for the last five years is going
to be a lots of effective and so we need
a way to build onto our offense. Matt Jone can
run our offense, Trey Lance can add to our offense.
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So that was a whole logic of it. And so
they swing in miss at least to this point on
Trey Lance, and then they sort of wind up with
Matt Jones anyway, you know what I mean, Like, is
brought party worse than Matt Jones?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
No, well, I mean, let's see a little more from him.
But yeah, it's so funny maybe, but it's.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
Like a legitimate thing, right Like, so you like that's
that's that's why people are talking about as much. It's
like if they were wheeling Sam Darnold out there as
their starting quarterback or Brandon Allen out there as their
starting quarterback, then this would be a major talking point,
you know, right, But you know the fact that they
may end up with the guy that they like, the
equivalent of the guy that they passed on anyway, Like
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I think is what really softens the blow here, And
the fact that they only had to spend a seventh
round pick on him offsets the amount of picks that
they gave up to go get Trey.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
I guess I'm just curious, says to what's the long
term for Trey Lance, since it seems like he doesn't
have a shot or an opportunity in San Francisco. You'd
think that they want to get something back in return
for what they lost. And I kind of feel like
the Jets in the same position with Zach Wilson. You know,
like if Rogers is gonna be there for what two
more years, maybe three more years, which he's now stated
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and talked about not being there for a one year deal,
They're gonna have to extend Zach Wilson at some point,
and that's gonna be a contract he's gonna have to
agree to and take a discount, unless you.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Know, they let him hit free agency.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Like those are two scenarios I look at, and go
high draft picks hasn't worked out. Why are the team's
not moving on and letting both get a fresh start.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Yeah, you know, Brady, I think the model for both
players and maybe what the teams are hoping right now
might actually be Gino Smith. I'd be interested to hear
your opinion on this, because, like, honestly, like so, I
was with one of the Seahawks coaches the other day
and we were talking about Gino and he said to me, like,
Geno success makes me wonder how many other Geno Smiths
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there are out there. You know, guys who were in
not great situations at the beginning of their careers. It
started a bunch of games, it didn't work out, they
wind up getting ditched by their first teams, They get
to sit for four or five years, and now all
of a sudden, oh wait a minute, still, this is
a good quarterback, you know what I mean. Like so,
like it was just an interesting point, Like a lot
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of times these guys enter into bad situations and then
if they get the opportunity to go a little while
and learn and develop, then you know, there are cases
where they can come out the other side and be
better players, you know, And so, I don't know, i'd
imagine you'd agree with that right.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Yeah, I think I've always said this quarterbacks the number
one developmental sport where you gotta have the reps. But
I think paramount to that is he also found himself
in a great situation. I mean, the Seattle Seahawks is
one of the best organizations in football, and so yeah,
you could talk about the four or five years he
had to develop, but let's be honest, the Seahawks have
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had way more success with Pete Carron John Schneider. And
that's the situation that he got to that then allowed
him to have a chance when he got his shot
to go flourish, like the reality is for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Or or let's look at Sam Donald.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Sam Donald got drafted into a Jets organization that didn't
handle that well. He then goes to the Panthers and
they're in an interesting state where he gets kind of
a short time to showcase himself. And I thought he
started to play a little better ball when he got
back in the end of last year.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
But it's like, that's unfortunately what you're throwing.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And if Sam Donald plays this year, if Brockberty can't go,
or he gets hurt or whatever happens, he will play
well like Mike Mark Mywartz.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
That's a great organization. You have a great play caller.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
That to me is more important than even development, because
if you have a Kyle Shanahan, you could take a
less developed player and a lot of times he'll be
able to work around that. Or if you an organization
that's willing to be patient and build it the right way,
they can get through some of that. So we could
talk about you know, Gino, and Gino is always talented.
You know, he was in a tough spot and obviously
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needed to grow and maturity and he did. But still
that the Seahawks organization is one of the best in
the NFL.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I think that is as much to do with it
as anything.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
But I think, yeah, I think I think you're backing
my point then, because it's like, all right, like bad situation,
washed out, goes to a better situation, is contend to
be a backup and works him so works his way
up into becoming a starter in a much better situation
than the original situation, right, And not everybody can be
afforded that, But it is like sort of it's an
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interesting test case of like the nature versus nurture thing.
And how important everything around you is. Like the unfortunate
thing with Trey Lance, and that's what it started. The
unfortunate thing with Trey Lance is like last year the
Niners were willing to take their lumps with him, right
in twenty twenty two, they were willing to say, Okay.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
This is going to be out right now, and then
it sturts, and now it's like, well, we're not gonna
just you know, we're not gonna we're not.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Going to put another season like, we can't do that.
You know, We've got too good a team to do
that again. And so like now Trey who what Tray
really needs? Trade needs to play because he just hasn't
seen anything. You know, he only started fourteen games in
college and he's he's barely played it all in the pros.
This guy's played like sixteen seventeen games since high school, right,
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and so this guy, this guy needs to play, and
he's not going to be afforded that opportunity. Why Well,
because the team that has him right now is a
Super Bowl contender, So they can't afford to go on
like a three game losing streak because the guy is
hitting a developmental bump. You know, and so I think
that that's sort of the problem with Trey. But yeah,
I mean I think there's a there's a really really
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good argument to be had here on how many quarterbacks
are mismanaged early in their career. And I wouldn't even
like point the finger at the Niners here. The Jets,
I think you can, right. I think with the Niners
is a little bit more like it's just the timing
of where the player is and where the team is
don't really line up.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
I'm still not sold on the fact that they didn't
trade up to give that pick to the Packers and
the Rogers trade deal that I'm sticking with that theory.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
It's an interesting theory. I mean, rock can you imagine
Rogers on that team?
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yeah, and look, we know John Lynch makes those sorts
of moves because he would call it Bill Belichick and
ask if he gets trade for Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
I mean, he makes me.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
Look, what do you did with Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, it's Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter at the mm QB. So, Albert, you're
in the middle of your training camp tour. You're back
home now. But we know that you were over in
Denver taking a look at the Broncos and what is
the relationship and dynamic like between Sean Payton and Russell
Wilson From what you saw, I.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Mean, I gotta tell you, guys, it's like Russ.
Speaker 10 (41:57):
From Wilson's invisible. I mean, you know there he's staying. Ah.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
I mean, it wouldn't be an Albert it wouldn't be
an Albert Brier interview if he didn't.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Have some issues.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's tough to do an
over the phone interview with a snorkel in your mouth.
You know, that's the problem. And so I feel like
if we could just get that figured out, Albert will
be ready to go with us here and we'll be
off and run and finding out what the dynamic is
like between the Denver Broncos and UH, Russell Wilson and
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Sean Payton. So, Albert, one more time you were cutting
out there talking about Russell Wilson, UH and just his
presence in camp this year.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Yeah, I'm back up from underwater, guys.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Ill you had a good.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Swim, yeah, best form of exercise, Brady, Yeah, I think Uh,
I mean like it really is like Russell Wilson's invisible
there and it was. It's it's interesting because it's just,
you know, I felt like coming out of last year,
like they had to bring in somebody good stand up
to Russell Wilson. And if you look at the guys
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they interviewed, you can clearly see that, Like they talked
to Jim Harbaugh, they talked to Amika Ryans, they talked
to Sean Payton, all guys who weren't gonna, like, you know,
weren't going to count out to Russell Wilson. And so
I think, you know, you look at where they are
now and Sean Payton's clearly the guy in the organization,
and you know, Russell is you know, I think they're
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they're they're sort of working to get the right offense
for Russell Wilson now, and Russell Wilson's put his head down.
You're hearing a lot from you don't see the entourage
a practice. It's just it's a very it just feels
way way, way, way way toned down from where it
was last year. And that's probably a good thing. And again,
I think there's a lot of like what they went
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through last year. That's going to happen to any team
that acquired Russell Wilson, whether it was having the people
in the building, the office, getting to run an offense
that was going to highlight him as a thrower, like
Russell Wilson was going to get all of that wherever
he went. He wasn't going to accept a trade to
any other team, and maybe he had to fall in
his face to see that it didn't work that way
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to be back in this spot. So I think you're
going to see an offense that's going to use him
a little bit more like he was used in Seattle.
And it does seem I mean, finally, finally, finally, it
does seem like there is some level of self awareness
here and that you don't have a whole lot of
the Russell Wilson superstar stuff going on that you did
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last year.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
All right, Albert, we're probably getting close to the end
of your training camp tour. We done.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Well. My big swing is done, so I have like
the big swing of sixteen teams and then I will
go I'm going to the Texans Patriots game tonight. Yeah,
and then I'll pick a more.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Along the way the box.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
So yeah, So give me, your team that you think
is going to surprise a lot of people from what
you've seen so far and make a run this year
because we've go a lot of degenerate gamblers, especially in
the state of Iowa.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
As Iowa Sam will tell us off seats here.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Uh, they need to know so they can play some
future bets.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
I think the Let me say that's like I I
would say, I think Justin Herbert is going to have
a massive year, and I don't know if it's going
to show up in the wins and losses. I mean,
because they're in such a tough division. But I think
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the Chargers are going to be really good. Like I
think that could wind up being a twelve or a
thirteen win team. They are loaded, They're gonna be healthier,
you know. I have enjoyed Bosa that healthy. I think
it's a big deal for them. They are receiver RUMs
as deep as NDY in the league. Their line is healthy,
I you know, And I think Kellen Moore is going
to make a difference for Justin Herbert. And I know
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the Chargers are forever next year's team, right like they've
forever and ever. They've been the most talented teams nobly,
But I just it was hard. I'll just put this way, Brady.
It's hard to go. It's hard to it's hard to
go to one of their practices now and not be like,
holy crap, look at this group.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
You know, Okay, okay, but here's the thing. That was
a playoff team last year. I want someone who wasn't
a playoff team. That's that's going to surprise a lot
of people.
Speaker 7 (46:20):
Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Wow, Okay, that's surprising Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Yeah, And I know everybody's staring at the quarterback. I
think they're one of the most well coached teams in
the league. And if you look at the beginning of
last year, they actually now like last year, if you
will go back and you look at the first months,
they played really well and you know, they did fade
as the season went on, but like, I think that
that was indicative of a team that was like being
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coached over its head a little bit early in the year.
They started to put good young players in that roster.
There's some depths in that roster. Now. The offensive line
is really good. They've invested in the defensive line, and
I think if you're good on the lines of scrimmage.
Then you're going to be in every game. I think
they can manage the quarterback position. Like I don't think
Desmond Raiders a world beater, but I do think he's
a winner. And then you look at the skills that
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they have on offense between Beijon and Drake London and
Kyle Pitts. And it's in a weak division. You know,
I would not be floored if Atlanta won that division.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Wow, all right, Albert is something?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So one quickly we got about thirty seconds left and
just kind of throwing a random number out there again
just you know, just spitballing here on the air. But
you mentioned Justin Herbert having a monster year. Do you
think Justin Herbert will have I don't know more or
less than twenty nine and a half touchdown passes this.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Year over over over over.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay, come on, Oh, just wondering, because I mean that
is something if anybody's interested in. That's where we have
the line set at here twenty.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Nine and a half.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
You can you find a way to Like, can you
find a way to I'm not an expert gambler, but
can't you find a way to move that number up?
Speaker 5 (47:58):
So because you can he's it.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
I might say no, it probably can't.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
Maybe tease that alcohol.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, I think they're doing that at Hawkeye Stadium in
Iowa City right now. I think that's where they're putting
that stuff together.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Hey, Albert, Albert, who's your pick for the next athletic
director at Ohio State. Jean Smith's in a hell of
a job. He's obviously up here in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7 (48:20):
Yeah, Notre Dame guy, Jean Smith.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
Right, that's right?
Speaker 7 (48:23):
Yeah, I I you know the name I've heard that.
I really like this patch On at Washington State. He's
from I believe Strongsville, Ohio, worked you know, under Jean
Smith at Ohio State. And you know this Brady like
they like, you just need somebody who understands that place.
It's just like and understanding that place is understanding football
(48:45):
is number one, and investing in football and being ahead
of the curve on that stuff. And I think bringing
in patch On from from from Washington State would be
the right move. So that'd be the.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Guy for me is get him on X or Twitter
or whatever the hell it's called. At Albert Breer, he's
a senior at We're going X throw those how careful.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Now Brady gets Brady got mad earlier when we.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
Call it twitter, right, I didn't get mad. I just
was more posing the question, like what do we call it? Now?
That's all I see is X.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
And then like I was doing something the other day
and they put up my my ex handle and had
the X with my name, and I was like, oh, yeah,
it's not like it's not really the Twitter bird anymore.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
It's odd, but nonetheless like this.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
Is not just like a bord rich guy seriously, like, right,
that's what this is.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, I don't know, he's pretty entertaining if he is bored.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yes it is.
Speaker 7 (49:34):
It is funny, I know, But does just seem like
it's like let's see what I can get away with?
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yes, I mean it just feels that way.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
If I'm paying forty four billion dollars or something, I
want to see how everything works and mess with some stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Why not? Yeah, you know, I spent spend a lot
of money.
Speaker 7 (49:49):
On it, so I can appreciate. I can appreciate somebody
who likes to mess with people this way. And yeah,
because of the money, he can do it. It's you know,
I'm pretty high level.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
So forty four billion dollars to bust every these balls.
There's nothing wrong with that, So good for Elon Musk.
Albert Briers senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, so there
he goes. Albert's going to be at the Bob Bowl
later on tonight the Patriots and the Houston Texans as
they deal with Bill O'Brien's he and his exes. There,
speaking of exes, so always fun catching up with Albert
(50:19):
here on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio This Jets Panthers joint practice. We open up the
show talking about Aaron Rodgers maybe a little frustration with
the way things have gone. They were supposed to practice
later on today. Yeah, that ain't happening. It has been canceled.
The Carolina Panthers have announced the cancelation of the practice.
(00:31):
They cited weather and safety concerns as the reason for
the cancelation. Is they were set to go go in
and do battle at the training camp there in Spartanburg,
South Carolina, at the Wafford College campus. So it's not happening.
The second training camp practice will not get done. And
(00:51):
so now Rogers has got to wait a little bit
longer to try and get the offense more in sync
than they were yesterday. But one of the things that
Rogers did talk about yesterday was his thoughts on Bryce
Young of the Carolina Panthers, and he's obviously shares an
agent with Bryce Young. Adam Thielen is a close friend
(01:13):
of Aaron Rodgers. He is now a member of Carolina
and so Rogers spoke about his thoughts on the number
one overall pick and the Panthers rookie quarterback.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I like the kid a lot. We have we share
an agent, so I've known about him for a long time.
I love watch him at college. I like his demeanor,
I like his movement, I like the way he throws.
I trust a guy like Adam. You know him and
I good buddies for a long time, and he just
raves about him. So I think Caroline is a good answer.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Here's my question.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
And by the way, Adam and Adam feelin I believe referring.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, let's see, you know, in the presentation, I said
Adam Thielen is a good friend, you know. But here's
my question for you. How could everybody be wrong? Because
I haven't heard anybody who's dealt with Bryce Young, been
around Bryce Young, played with, had any sort of interaction
with him on the field or off the field, say
(02:05):
anything but glowing things about him. The only thing you
heard was while he's undersized, Like, how could everybody be
wrong in their assessment that this is going to work
with Bryce Young?
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I mean, again, there's things that are outside the control
of Bryce Young and the Carolina panthersn't all involved, right,
I'm not gonna you know, injuries are obviously one thing
that can impact your career.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
He's been fortunate enough not to deal with too much
of that.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
He to me, is the type of player when you
watch him, everyone talks about the quarterback position and you know, oh,
he's got it. Have you ever heard that phrase when
coaches talk about all they have it? Or even maybe
in a different industry, right, even in radio, you get
certain personalities, certain people You're like, I don't know what
it is.
Speaker 5 (02:51):
I can't describe it. They just have it.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Bryce Young has it, and I think it's very easy
for everyone to see what that is. They can't really quantified,
you know, in a certain way or qualitatively, like explain
what exactly it is.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
He just is everything.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
That you look for in a quarterback from a leadership standpoint,
from the way he communicates, from the way he carries himself,
from the way he plays the game. He just understands
how the game is supposed to be played. And he's
one of those unique talents that when you come across
someone like him, they're such an outlier.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
They're so different from other people that you've been.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Around, and they're so consistently that like, that's the one
thing that I think at the NFL level differentiates the
greats from the goods, from the average to the everybody else,
is their consistency at being.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
Able to display that it factor. Because we throw on
that term often.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
And there are instances or moments where you see a
guy I have a great season, you see him have
a great game, you see him have a great whatever
it is, and you say, yeah, he's got it, like I've.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Seen it before.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
But the difference between guys that like get to the
Patrick Mahomes level or an Aaron Rodgers level, or Tom
Brady or whoever you want thrown in the conversation, they
sustain it. They're able to consistently be at that level
where you see that special uniqueness of the way they play,
the way they carry themselves, the where they operate. They
(04:28):
do it all the time. It's not like part of
who they are, it's who they are. And that's why
I think he is so special. It's why you saw
Carolina jump up to take him where they did. I
don't think there is any any hesitation that it was
about Bryce Young, that it's no disrespect to the quarterbacks
in this draft class. If you'd been around the other
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quarterbacks in this draft class, you come away and you say,
that's the one that I don't have any questions about.
You just look and go, Okay, smaller in size, so what.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
So what? He can go win? He can go win
a Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
I mean, I'm telling you, I'm sure Nick Saban behind
closed doors was as glowing talking about him to every team,
specifically Carolina, as he's ever been for any player.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
Yeah, because I've never seen Nick Saban during his time there.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
When a press conference end, make Will Anderson, who's the
other player he probably spoke lonely about and Bryce Young
both sit back down so he could publicly praise them.
Like when's the last time you saw Nick Saban do
that to any football player he's ever had? Like I
remember watching that thinking, wow, like what's he gonna say?
(05:44):
And then in Nick Saban's way where he's always tempered
with his compliments, that was like as good.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
As it gets.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
That's like an outside the norm of Nick Saban doing
something he's never done, when he's never overly flatter flattered
a player.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
He did that for Bryce Young, Will Anderson.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
I think I spoke volumes about probably what he was
raving about behind closed doors, even though he takes a
more measured approach.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I mean that Belichick does the same thing, and talking
about Lawrence Taylor, he does the same thing talking about
Matthew Slater. Like when you hear those guys who are
sort of you know, curmudgeons or maybe don't give a
compliment here or there, when they're glowingly speaking about certain players,
it just means more. And yes, Saban was all about
Bryce Young and Will Anderson, and then you.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Know, those guys don't use hyperbole right like they use
like like they just don't ever give out compliments, like
when they say he's a great player, Like they don't
call everyone a great player.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
They're just measured.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I mean, Saban gets a little bit more hot and
bothered than Belichick does publicly and likes to pound the
podium a little bit more. But yeah, they don't hand
out those sort of compliments to just anybody.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
And still knowing all.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
That and hearing all that and listening to you predict
months ahead of time that Brung was going to be
the Heisman Trophy winner and do it at ten to
one odds at the time of your state.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
He's gonna have been Rookie of the Year. Get it,
and get it now while you still can't at five
to one.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
But still I took the bait, hook line and sinker
that CJ.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Stroud was going to go number one over all of
the Panthers.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Still after having all that information, all that intel, and
I still look like a horse's ass because I saw
the betting odds move and I just assumed, oh God,
somebody must know something.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
CJ.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Stroud's going to go number one overall, and it got
as high as three to one in favor of c J. Stroud.
And now we're sitting here talking about Bryce Young looking
like outside injury or anything else. I can't miss prospect
for the Carolina Panthers, and the betting odds would say
five to one, still not moving in the favor of
Bryce Young to be Rookie of the Year. Jean Robinson's
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still getting all the love there. So there's there's the
update on your Rookie of the Year, which, by the way,
I think Jean Robinson was it was either third on
the depth chart at running back for the Falcons, so
maybe maybe a little bit of trouble there Brady Quinn
in Atlanta, Maybe no, he'll be fine.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
The way they utilize them, it's those opening depth charts.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
It's like, who did Mike Mike Tomblin had Darnell Washington.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's like the fourth tight end, which.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I'm like, okay, like he's he's gonna immediately race up
the depth chart to eventually be starting for them or
playing very soon.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
In the two tight end sets and so forth.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
That's just a lot of coaches want them to, you know,
earn it when they get in these preseason games and
showcase the ability to do it, and and then look
that that's all part of the culture they're trying to create.
And so there's nothing wrong with that. But you can't
always believe what you see on some of these opening
training camp depth charts and preseason depth charts because that's
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going to change drastically once they have the final cut
and you're cutting away you know thirty some players, you know,
almost forty some players from your roster.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
All right, So now I do have a question for here,
because in talking about Bryce Young, there is another prop
bet that's out there. Curtis of our friends of DraftKings, is.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
This touchdown passes.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, you want to guess, or you want me to
give you the number and you tell me.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Movie, Oh guess the over unders said at twenty six.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
And a half twenty two and a.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Half over jeez over.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Yeah, I'm just look, I know I've been overly complimentary
of him.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
I comb through college film and you don't see players
play the game like he does.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
He he it's.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Almost like he's got the ability to slow down time
with as poised as he is, the way he's I know,
it sounds like he's like a superhero, but I've never
seen a kid be so poised and be able to
play the game and then move quickly but reset and
make throws into windows. You're like, my god, he made
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that look so easy and it is incredibly difficult. He's
just he's a special, special talent.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
So it that that's the feeling there. So you heard
it here first and again. This is somebody who called
it at ten to one Heisman Trophy winner months before
it happened, watching an Alabama spring game, and we're telling
you five to one you can get Bryce Young.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
The Panthers go to the playoffs, that has.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
One efforting here. You know, this just efforting here. We
are formulating the numbers because we go by calculations.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So yeah, there's a lot of what.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
Do you want to type in some of that? So
while you're doing this, you can.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I mean listen, I have it right here. I mean
I just yeah, because there's a lot of there. We've
got pages and pages of research here that.
Speaker 7 (10:39):
We have done.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
We're old school on this show. We don't care about trees.
Screw your trees.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
We'll cut them down.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, we'll cut them down and uh and use the
printer and print all this stuff out. The odds for
the Panthers to make the playoffs. Yes, is plus two
to zh five. No is minus two forty five to
two to one. Baby on the Carolina making the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Take you right now, take it right now.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So we are all in on the Carolina Panthers. And
if this season goes offul for him. This entire segment
was deleted from the podcast.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It won't happening.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
It'll be better than what it's been in the past.
What were there seven to ten team last year?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I don't even know. And furthermore, who cares, you know?
But we care now the Panthers are back.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
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Speaker 2 (11:37):
So, Brady Quinn, I don't know if you're aware of this.
You know, this is something I want to I want
to make sure I'm keeping you up on game on something.
But the college football season kicks off not long from now,
I know, notre dan Na.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
You'd think, I mean, do you think all the teams,
all of the coaches, the players, the people around those organizations,
that the people who are covering that sport, you know,
whether it be domestic or even internationally.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Do you think they've got everything all buttoned up and
ready to go?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Yeah, come on, you think so?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I mean even like logistics and travel and things like that.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
You think they've got that all button Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Listen, I mean, you know, passports, everything dialed in. I mean,
everybody's good to go.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, it would be uh, I mean, you know, coming
up quick. So I would imagine, you know, why would
they leave it, you know, cuinding it so close?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
God forbid?
Speaker 6 (12:31):
And then then the one thing is like you got
to make sure you have the return flight coming back,
like God forbid, you get you get the flight to
go over there. But I mean, for example, I'm gonna
bring in Iowa salmon for this. Could you imagine Iowa, Sam,
you know the hawkeys, which they probably just would bus,
you know, from Iowa City to Ames, But can you
imagine if they didn't have return plans, like they were
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just sitting there, sitting ducks there or sitting hawkeys I
guess in this case in Ames, Iowa?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Could you imagine the scenario like that?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I can't. Yeah, what's a better place? Ames or Iowa City?
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Iowa City?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Really?
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Yeah? Not even it's not even debatable. Yeah is that
a fair Sam?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Yeah, listen, Brady's a neutral party, and uh them be
the words.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, I don't know, I've heard different. But again, you know,
I'm more of an Iowa insider than a lot of people.
But that's that's neither hear nor there. But nonetheless, the
season is fast approaching in college football. We've got Navy
and Notre Dame in Dublin, Ireland. You know that's going
to be a fun one for everybody that goes over
and attends and has everything dialed in and has their
passports and stuff set up. So everyone's really excited for
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that to being the first game of the season. There's
been a lot of controversies in the world of college football.
I feel like a lot of it's been very negative.
So I got to ask you a question. We've got
two stories that we're going to hit on when it
comes to college football. Do you want something that's got
a little bit of a negative connotation or something that's
got more of a positive connotation, like like a little
bit of a kind of a bright spot.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
It's positive. You know, it's a Thursday. Let's start positive
with our day.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Step right up. Troy Taylor, Yeah, coy head coach of Stanford.
Love Troy and Stanford's one of the one of the
teams the Pac twelve that's kind of looking around going, okay,
now what there's been some discussions about how this whole
thing is going to play out with the remaining teams
in the Pac twelve and what the plan is going
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to be. And so the discussion came with and you've
talked about this, the travel for some of these Pac
twelve teams, you know, is travel going to be an issue.
Is there going to be a problem. You know, with
all these teams traveling, everybody's pointing at all the negative stuff,
and Troy Taylors of Stanford decided to take a different approach.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
No bitching, no moaning.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Just the truth, just honesty and really appreciative of any
opportunity they get.
Speaker 8 (14:49):
I'm okay with traveling. I just our guys left play football,
you know, and you've got to travel a little more.
That means when people come play offs, they got to travel.
So you know, we're we just want to we want
to play football. We want to be in a great conference.
And uh we're we're sure that will happen. And the
travel if that happens.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
In his fine assistant.
Speaker 8 (15:07):
You know, people used to have to come to cross
the country in a covered wagon. You know, it'd be
take a month and maybe completely different people by the
time they got there. You know, we get on a
plane for five hours, six hours, that's that's not the
end of the little you know, you get get drink.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Served to you and and some snacks and it's it's
not it's not that bad. What a breath of fresh air.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
He's the best man, so I got to I got
to sit down, ironically, I got to sit down with
one of the teams that's that's not been a part.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
Of the realignment so far. I got to sit with.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
Bernard Muir, who's the athletic director there at Stafford, along
with coach Troy Taylor at the Pact twelve dinner. And
I had such a refreshing conversation with Coach Taylor. He's
got an incredible perspective, so it's not surprising to hear
him say like, hey, I'm okay with that, Like what's
the big deal we got to travel? Okay that it
doesn't it doesn't matter to me, one of the things.
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And and look, he understands the challenge that he's undertake and
taking over a Stanford programs that struggled of late.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But one of the best things.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
We had a conversation just about, you know, his philosophy
and how he sees things, and he said, oh, he's like, well,
he goes yeah, He's like, we're gonna like put the
pedal to the metal, you know. And then he obviously
for people who don't know his background, he's coming from
Sacramento State.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
He was actually a high.
Speaker 6 (16:21):
School coach at fulsome high school where he had a
ton of success offensive mind.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Former NFL quarterback had a ton of success.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
Though in high school and ended up you know, leading
to him having success to a sack state. But his
common to me and I honestly, for as long as
I had played and then been around the sport, I
had not had a coach say this to me, and
at least in this way. He goes, well, yeah, every
single kind of game we're trying to blow someone out.
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I'm like, well, I was like, well, yeah, I get that.
But he's like, no, no, no, He's like, he's just you
have to understand, he goes. You know, situational football is
one of those things you could rep it, you can
practice it, he goes, But he goes, what it comes
down to the game time scenario of executing you know,
situational place, third down, red zone, two minute, you know,
end of game plays, he goes. You know, you could
do everything right in the game of football, you could
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still lose, he goes. So we try not to leave
it up to those moments, like we don't want to
have to try to win the battle of you know,
winning these specific scenarios every single week, Like He's like,
we'd like to beat it by two or three scores.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
He's like, so when we get up, we're gonna stay up.
We're gonna keep pouring it on. And I was like,
this is awesome.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Like I've literally never heard a coach basically say like
I'm trying to remove the margin of error either from unluckiness,
from human mistake, or just from the sheer fact of players,
you know, making some mistakes by just trying to constantly
blow teams out. And so we'll see how it plays out.
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It may have to be playing itself out in the
ACC as opposed to the PAC twelve after this year.
But the truth is he's got a really optimistic, refreshing
way of looking at things, and I'm kind of excited
to see like where it goes for Stanford. But look,
they don't really have a choice either. You know, when
you're all this is happening in college sports, you just
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want to be part of the party. And that's what
part of this is about at this point, is for Stanford,
for Cal for even Washington State, who I feel bad
because they're not even part of any of the discussions.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
At this point.
Speaker 6 (18:21):
You want all those student athletes and those schools to
be a part of whatever this realignment turns into, even
though they'll be leaving behind the PAC twelve. And look,
I understand there's a lot of PAC twelve people out
there who went to school back when I was the
PAC ten or you know, however you want to define
the conference. But you know, we're moving on, like everyone's
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going to move on from that. And due to poor
leadership and probably lack of accountability or responsibility for a
lot of the poor decisions or lack of decisions made,
that's where you got to this point.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
So you know, you don't really have anyone.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
To blame but the leaders that are all on and
at some point you just got to move on to
whatever the next thing is.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
It just feels like the last couple of years, when
you hear a coach talk, it's always something about NIL
and the problems with NIL or something about conference realignment
or something about somebody's getting this or recruitment or something
like that. And this guy goes, listen, man, we used
to travel in covered wagons. We're grateful to hop on
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a plane and go anywhere to play football. It's like, okay,
just straight straight to the to the bottom line.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I think it's actually the Opportunity K comedy Skip.
Speaker 6 (19:32):
By the way, I'm not sure if it was Lewis
DK or someone else, but he essentially talked about the
miracle of airlines air travel. Yeah, it takes you thirty
years to get across across in the organ trail or
back in like a wagon, and your lives will be
entirely different.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
You lost some family members, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well, I mean you're just you're you're dealing with the elements.
Like what about if you're riding on horseback, you're dealing
with the elements. Your weathered, you smell like, you've got
to deal with all the other crap that comes along
with it. And nowadays people complain if they've only got
peanuts and not pretzels on a flight. You know which,
By the way, do you go pretzels or peanuts on
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a flight?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
What do you go with?
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I do neither?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, me neither.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I was just asking for a friend, just maybe just
trying to see. Now, now let's get to what we've
known college football to be in a lot of parts,
the negative aspect of college football. So apparently Northwestern's had
a little bit of an issue in their locker room.
You know, that's been a story that's been out there,
hazing all the other stuff that came along with it.
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As that story came out over the past several weeks,
and athletic director Derek Gragg had to speak about just
sort of the tone def T shirts that were worn
by assistant coaches in the first practice.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
As they get ready for the season.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
These T shirts had Northwestern against the World. They had
a number fifty one on it for their former head
coach Fitzgerald. Pat Fitzgerald, who played and was a multiple
time All Pro or not All Pro, but he was
a multiple time first team All American defensive player for Northwestern,
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and he was the guy who was fired and considered
to be sort of in the know on all these
things that had gone on in Northwestern. And so now
you've got assistance wearing this, You've got this picture floated
out there on July twenty seventh, where it's not the
first time you had a player showing support for Pat
Fitzgerald and wearing one of these shirts. It just feels
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like maybe they didn't handle the punishments or maybe handle
the cleaning up of this process. And I don't know
if they just didn't have time, because they didn't have
time to put together a full staff and replace everybody,
but it feels like not everybody's on the same page
at Northwestern again with a season right around the corner
there for the Wildcat.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
Yeah, so just a piece of this whole thing together
so everyone gets a full picture.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
Of what's happened.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
There was a T shirt worn that said Cats against
the World and it had the number fifty one on them,
and players as well as coaches have kind of warned
them over the past what's the day, August ninth, they've
they've worn them over the past few weeks. Yeah, and
there's this photo circulated to the point where and it
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was an older photo which lends.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Me to this next point.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
But with the athletic director of Northwestern has to come
out and make a statement not condoning the shirts and
you know them being tone deaf and all the other
pr statements that you make about it. But their shirts
were designed by people who obviously were in support of
Pat Fitzgerald and his defense of what he's being accused of.
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That he was, you know, allegedly knew of what was
going on with the hazing, etc. And obviously now no
longer is a part of the you know, a part
of the university. And so there was coaches and players
who feel like that's bs and they wanted to show
support for Pat Fitzgerald in that way. And here's the
reality of the situation is all we know at this point,
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at least on the outside, is that these are allegations.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I don't know for a fact of any of it.
Do you know for a fact of anything that occurred.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
All we have at this point is comments that were
made by former players here and former players on both sides,
and most this stuff didn't happen. You had about what
ten to fifteen that said something did happen that cross lines.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
And so all we have.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
At this point is disgounlement from a ten or fifteen
players that goes against what's being said about other players
and coaches on the other side of it.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Okay, So that's all we have on the outside.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
And yet because they're so concerned about the public perception
of hazing and the ulch there at Northwestern, they've got
to naturally respond to it. When we don't, like no
one really knows the facts of it, people want to
act like everything, some of these the allegations that were
made were factual. We don't know that. We weren't there,
we weren't a part of it. And even though it's
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damning in the event that if it is true, I
don't know that we should presume that Pat Fitzgerald and
all parties involved in the players and coaches were all
aware of it and guilty of it like that that
they will come a time when all that sorts itself out.
But it brings up the light two things. The first
is the athletic director obviously just now responded to it.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yeah, this is a week's old photo.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
So clearly, not only from the fact of whatever Pat
Fitzgerald's been accused of, if he's been accused of that,
because he was supposed to have the oversight and the
knowledge of what was happening in the locker room, should
the athletic director too, why is he still a part
of the Northwestern program?
Speaker 5 (24:59):
That's the first question I have.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
The next is, and you said it like there wasn't
gonna be enough time for them to move on from
the entire coaching staff, the interim head coach to it.
It's kind of just got there, so it's not like
he's been a part of this program for a while.
But if you did feel like what they did was
true and so egregious that you needed to move on,
you'd move on from everyone. He would just move on
from the head coach and say, okay, slap a band
aid on this, let's just push through the season. But
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that was the position they were in because they wouldn't
have a football season if that.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Was the case. So the Northwesterns found themselves in this mess.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
And unfortunately, like they've they've got to respond to stuff
like this when players who still might support fits Heeral,
who might you know, think this is BS, want to
you know, want to utilize their first a memory. They
have every opportunity to want to support their former head coaches.
They want to, that's the right. They might feel like
it's all BS and how this is impacting their college
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career and now it's impacting their you know, athletic career
and how it ends. So there's there's that aspect of it,
and I think there's the other assspec of it where
you say, well, okay, but at this point, like what
does it matter the season starting, they're trying to turn
a new leaf. Like, if we keep going back and
rehashing all of this, maybe Northwestern will They're never going
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to be able to get past this at some point.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And one of the things that happened when the Minnesota
claims came out against you know, j Fleck and the
program and all that stuff, is that you had players
both current and past, who came out and spoke out
in support of him and just the impact he had
on them as human beings and all that. Like, there
are people that are going to support you. It feels
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like Pat Fitzgerald and again we don't know everything that happened,
but so far he's the lone fall guy because he's
the only one that lost his job and it's got
his name written all over it. But to your point,
also the athletic director who speaks out they're wearing these
T shirts at practice on Wednesday. There's a photo that
comes out on July twenty seventh. Dude, I would assume
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if this scame is as big of a scandal as
everybody has made it out to be, and you're that
concerned about it and how the program looks, that a
you would have gotten ahead of it and asked about
the picture that was out on July twenty seven, and
you would have just been aware, like I would assume
you'd have everything buttoned up on your end to make
sure nothing else came out to look make our program
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look any worse.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Than it did.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
And instead he's just reacting to something that happened on Wednesday,
and everyone's like, hey, what about the picture from a
couple of weeks ago?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh, yeah, that too.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
It's like, why don't you know that if you're the
athletic director, why aren't you privy to that information? Or
why isn't somebody that works underneath you letting you know? Hey,
just so you know, this is out there and there's
a player and an assistant coach involved on this picture
that floated out on July twenty seventh on social media.
I don't know, man, the whole thing's a disaster, like
it just feels like. And there's probably a lot of
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people that had nothing to do with any of the
claims who just want to play football and get ready
for a season, and this has derailed all that.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
The coach's careers who are part of it, their families obviously,
who are impacted, you know by as they'll probably be
selling their house looking for a new place to go,
coach and live after this year. The players who are
involved clearly at impacts not only their ability to have
the sort of success they were hoping for, but even
more so than that, just their their overall experience and
how it comes to an end. I mean, again, I'm
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biased in the sense of from all the times I've
been around Pat Fitzgerald, and I've said this to people,
he would have been the type of coach that if
I was being recruited when I was coming out, I
would have heavily weighed Northwestern, obviously for the academics, but
also for him because of the type of leader he was.
(28:42):
From every conversation we had talking about ball, talking about
you know, developing young people. I mean, you would have
never ever felt like these allegations were true if you
had the opportunity to spend some time around Pat Fitzgerald,
and if they were true, it was something that was
completely hidden away from him because the people who were
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are the players who were implementing this or creating this,
didn't want their head coach to know because they know
they'd get kicked off the team.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
They know they'd get in trouble with him and.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
So that's the Pat Fitzgerald that I know, and that's
why it's so hard for me to sit here and
listen to all of this, because he's the type of
guy that would never stand for some of the allegations
and stuff they're talking about.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
And what I know from my experience as a player,
being in the NFL and being in colleges and especially college,
if you wanted to.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Find five to six, seven, eight, nine, ten guys who
are just scruddled, who would fabricate things, or make things up,
or even stretch the truth of things just so they
could get attention or just so they could get back
on someone on any given year, you could find that.
You could find guys who didn't want to work hard.
(29:57):
You could find guys who didn't didn't like the ultra
they signed up for, and they didn't like the reality
of how much tougher things were and being away from
mom and dad and trying to adapt to college life
where you're on your own and things are harder, you
have more responsibility. You could find that every single year
that came in in that freshman class or that eventually
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went up the ranks and they're like, well, I don't
want to quit because I want a scholarship.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
I want to get my degree from here.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
You could find that we had guys like that, and
the coaches would do their best to push them and see, hey,
all right, let's see, let's see how far we can
take this, to see if these guys want to be
a part of this or if they're just gonna quit,
because a lot of them will kind of drag things down,
and you could tell they wanted to quit, but they
wanted the degree, they wanted the free education.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
That's always the case.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
And so in my mind, I listened to all that
and I go, yeah, it's not far removed from some
people who probably wanted to get back at a head
coach that wanted to push them, that was trying to
help develop it in a way that was probably difficult
and hard on them. And instead now they stretch the
truth of hey, or whatever, the culture was created.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
And also to your point on Pat Fitzgerald's reputation, the
last two times the Bears have been hiring a head coach,
people in Chicago wanted Pat Fitzgerald to get a look
like they loved him, like people love him in that city.
And so just to see where this whole thing has headed.
It's unfortunate, and now we wait to see again season
a couple of weeks away Northwestern as well as others
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trying to get ready for their first game of the
season at Rutgers, and this whole thing is just continuing
on there in Illinois.
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Speaker 2 (32:40):
Right now, we turn it over to our guy, Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You can get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer ab. What's happening? Good morning to.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
You, what's happening?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
What's odd to me is Jonas keeps calling Twitter twitter?
I mean, isn't it like X now? Is that how
we should refer to it?
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Or what about that?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
But what do you call it? Albert?
Speaker 7 (33:04):
I mean, I still call it twitter. That sounds weird,
doesn't it. I don't know, like anybody would really like.
The thing is like, if you say Twitter, everybody knows
what you're talking about. If you say X, Like if
somebody said, and I'm on there every day, if somebody
said X to me, it would take me a second
to realize what the hell they were talking about.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
You know. It sounds like a U problem, not a problem.
Speaker 7 (33:24):
Yeah, well, but it's just I'm just trying to be
efficient here, Brady, and I'd be the most efficient way
to communicate with people here. Is it called Twitter?
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I would agree Albert. I'm team Albert here, that's for sure.
I'll tell you that, Hey, Albert.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Can I choose Albert? I want? So it feels like.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
There's some sort of magic trick being pulled off in
San Francisco. So you were just at forty nine Ers
training camp and you saw the team up close and personal,
and it's like, yeah, we're getting ready for a season
where a Super Bowl contender and rock Party is going
to be our starting quarterback. And it's almost like they
figured out a way to get everybody to pay attention
to all that stuff and not the fact that the
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guy they traded up a grip of first round picks
for to take top three overall is battling it out
with Sam Darnold for the backup job.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
What the hell's happening that?
Speaker 7 (34:19):
Well, it would be a much bigger deal if they
didn't wind up with Brock Perdy, who they believe And
we can argue about this if you want. They believe
these are legitimate starting quarterback with you know, some upside
and you know, the weird thing about it is and
I you know, if you go back to the decision
to take Trey Lance over Mac Jones, because that's really
what it was two years ago. Really, the logic for
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Kyle Shanahan was pretty simple. It was half the league
is running my offense, and that means half the league
is practicing against my offense. And so now what we've
been doing here for the last five years is going
to be a lots of effective and so we need
a way to build onto our offense. Matt Jone can
run our offense, Trey Lance can add to our offense.
(35:03):
So that was a whole logic of it. And so
they swing in miss at least to this point on
Trey Lance, and then they sort of wind up with
Matt Jones anyway, you know what I mean, Like, is
brought party worse than Matt Jones?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
No, well, I mean, let's see a little more from him.
But yeah, it's so funny maybe, but it's.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
Like a legitimate thing, right Like, so you like that's
that's that's why people are talking about as much. It's
like if they were wheeling Sam Darnold out there as
their starting quarterback or Brandon Allen out there as their
starting quarterback, then this would be a major talking point,
you know, right, But you know the fact that they
may end up with the guy that they like, the
equivalent of the guy that they passed on anyway, Like
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I think is what really softens the blow here, And
the fact that they only had to spend a seventh
round pick on him offsets the amount of picks that
they gave up to go get Trey.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
I guess I'm just curious, says to what's the long
term for Trey Lance, since it seems like he doesn't
have a shot or an opportunity in San Francisco. You'd
think that they want to get something back in return
for what they lost. And I kind of feel like
the Jets in the same position with Zach Wilson. You know,
like if Rogers is gonna be there for what two
more years, maybe three more years, which he's now stated
(36:20):
and talked about not being there for a one year deal,
They're gonna have to extend Zach Wilson at some point,
and that's gonna be a contract he's gonna have to
agree to and take a discount, unless you.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
Know, they let him hit free agency.
Speaker 6 (36:33):
Like those are two scenarios I look at, and go
high draft picks hasn't worked out. Why are the team's
not moving on and letting both get a fresh start.
Speaker 7 (36:43):
Yeah, you know, Brady, I think the model for both
players and maybe what the teams are hoping right now
might actually be Gino Smith. I'd be interested to hear
your opinion on this, because, like, honestly, like so, I
was with one of the Seahawks coaches the other day
and we were talking about Gino and he said to me, like,
Geno success makes me wonder how many other Geno Smiths
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there are out there. You know, guys who were in
not great situations at the beginning of their careers. It
started a bunch of games, it didn't work out, they
wind up getting ditched by their first teams, They get
to sit for four or five years, and now all
of a sudden, oh wait a minute, still, this is
a good quarterback, you know what I mean. Like so,
like it was just an interesting point, Like a lot
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of times these guys enter into bad situations and then
if they get the opportunity to go a little while
and learn and develop, then you know, there are cases
where they can come out the other side and be
better players, you know, And so, I don't know, i'd
imagine you'd agree with that right.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Yeah, I think I've always said this quarterbacks the number
one developmental sport where you gotta have the reps. But
I think paramount to that is he also found himself
in a great situation. I mean, the Seattle Seahawks is
one of the best organizations in football, and so yeah,
you could talk about the four or five years he
had to develop, but let's be honest, the Seahawks have
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had way more success with Pete Carron John Schneider. And
that's the situation that he got to that then allowed
him to have a chance when he got his shot
to go flourish, like the reality is for Zach Wilson.
Speaker 5 (38:19):
Or or let's look at Sam Donald.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
Sam Donald got drafted into a Jets organization that didn't
handle that well. He then goes to the Panthers and
they're in an interesting state where he gets kind of
a short time to showcase himself. And I thought he
started to play a little better ball when he got
back in the end of last year.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
But it's like, that's unfortunately what you're throwing.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
And if Sam Donald plays this year, if Brockberty can't go,
or he gets hurt or whatever happens, he will play
well like Mike Mark Mywartz.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
That's a great organization. You have a great play caller.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
That to me is more important than even development, because
if you have a Kyle Shanahan, you could take a
less developed player and a lot of times he'll be
able to work around that. Or if you an organization
that's willing to be patient and build it the right way,
they can get through some of that. So we could
talk about you know, Gino, and Gino is always talented.
You know, he was in a tough spot and obviously
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needed to grow and maturity and he did. But still
that the Seahawks organization is one of the best in
the NFL.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
I think that is as much to do with it
as anything.
Speaker 7 (39:17):
But I think, yeah, I think I think you're backing
my point then, because it's like, all right, like bad situation,
washed out, goes to a better situation, is contend to
be a backup and works him so works his way
up into becoming a starter in a much better situation
than the original situation, right, And not everybody can be
afforded that, But it is like sort of it's an
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interesting test case of like the nature versus nurture thing.
And how important everything around you is. Like the unfortunate
thing with Trey Lance, and that's what it started. The
unfortunate thing with Trey Lance is like last year the
Niners were willing to take their lumps with him, right
in twenty twenty two, they were willing to say, Okay.
Speaker 10 (39:59):
This is going to be out right now, and then
it sturts, and now it's like, well, we're not gonna
just you know, we're not gonna we're not.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
Going to put another season like, we can't do that.
You know, We've got too good a team to do
that again. And so like now Trey who what Tray
really needs? Trade needs to play because he just hasn't
seen anything. You know, he only started fourteen games in
college and he's he's barely played it all in the pros.
This guy's played like sixteen seventeen games since high school, right,
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and so this guy, this guy needs to play, and
he's not going to be afforded that opportunity. Why Well,
because the team that has him right now is a
Super Bowl contender, So they can't afford to go on
like a three game losing streak because the guy is
hitting a developmental bump. You know, and so I think
that that's sort of the problem with Trey. But yeah,
I mean I think there's a there's a really really
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good argument to be had here on how many quarterbacks
are mismanaged early in their career. And I wouldn't even
like point the finger at the Niners here. The Jets,
I think you can, right. I think with the Niners
is a little bit more like it's just the timing
of where the player is and where the team is
don't really line up.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
I'm still not sold on the fact that they didn't
trade up to give that pick to the Packers and
the Rogers trade deal that I'm sticking with that theory.
Speaker 7 (41:16):
It's an interesting theory. I mean, rock can you imagine
Rogers on that team?
Speaker 6 (41:21):
Yeah, and look, we know John Lynch makes those sorts
of moves because he would call it Bill Belichick and
ask if he gets trade for Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
I mean, he makes me.
Speaker 7 (41:32):
Look, what do you did with Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, it's Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio,
senior NFL reporter at the mm QB. So, Albert, you're
in the middle of your training camp tour. You're back
home now. But we know that you were over in
Denver taking a look at the Broncos and what is
the relationship and dynamic like between Sean Payton and Russell
Wilson From what you saw, I.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Mean, I gotta tell you, guys, it's like Russ.
Speaker 10 (41:57):
From Wilson's invisible. I mean, you know there he's staying. Ah.
Speaker 6 (42:07):
I mean, it wouldn't be an Albert it wouldn't be
an Albert Brier interview if he didn't.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Have some issues.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's tough to do an
over the phone interview with a snorkel in your mouth.
You know, that's the problem. And so I feel like
if we could just get that figured out, Albert will
be ready to go with us here and we'll be
off and run and finding out what the dynamic is
like between the Denver Broncos and UH, Russell Wilson and
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Sean Payton. So, Albert, one more time you were cutting
out there talking about Russell Wilson, UH and just his
presence in camp this year.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Yeah, I'm back up from underwater, guys.
Speaker 5 (42:43):
Ill you had a good.
Speaker 7 (42:44):
Swim, yeah, best form of exercise, Brady, Yeah, I think Uh,
I mean like it really is like Russell Wilson's invisible
there and it was. It's it's interesting because it's just,
you know, I felt like coming out of last year,
like they had to bring in somebody good stand up
to Russell Wilson. And if you look at the guys
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they interviewed, you can clearly see that, Like they talked
to Jim Harbaugh, they talked to Amika Ryans, they talked
to Sean Payton, all guys who weren't gonna, like, you know,
weren't going to count out to Russell Wilson. And so
I think, you know, you look at where they are
now and Sean Payton's clearly the guy in the organization,
and you know, Russell is you know, I think they're
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they're they're sort of working to get the right offense
for Russell Wilson now, and Russell Wilson's put his head down.
You're hearing a lot from you don't see the entourage
a practice. It's just it's a very it just feels
way way, way, way way toned down from where it
was last year. And that's probably a good thing. And again,
I think there's a lot of like what they went
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through last year. That's going to happen to any team
that acquired Russell Wilson, whether it was having the people
in the building, the office, getting to run an offense
that was going to highlight him as a thrower, like
Russell Wilson was going to get all of that wherever
he went. He wasn't going to accept a trade to
any other team, and maybe he had to fall in
his face to see that it didn't work that way
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to be back in this spot. So I think you're
going to see an offense that's going to use him
a little bit more like he was used in Seattle.
And it does seem I mean, finally, finally, finally, it
does seem like there is some level of self awareness
here and that you don't have a whole lot of
the Russell Wilson superstar stuff going on that you did
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last year.
Speaker 5 (44:31):
All right, Albert, we're probably getting close to the end
of your training camp tour. We done.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Well. My big swing is done, so I have like
the big swing of sixteen teams and then I will
go I'm going to the Texans Patriots game tonight. Yeah,
and then I'll pick a more.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
Along the way the box.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
So yeah, So give me, your team that you think
is going to surprise a lot of people from what
you've seen so far and make a run this year
because we've go a lot of degenerate gamblers, especially in
the state of Iowa.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
As Iowa Sam will tell us off seats here.
Speaker 6 (45:05):
Uh, they need to know so they can play some
future bets.
Speaker 7 (45:11):
I think the Let me say that's like I I
would say, I think Justin Herbert is going to have
a massive year, and I don't know if it's going
to show up in the wins and losses. I mean,
because they're in such a tough division. But I think
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the Chargers are going to be really good. Like I
think that could wind up being a twelve or a
thirteen win team. They are loaded, They're gonna be healthier,
you know. I have enjoyed Bosa that healthy. I think
it's a big deal for them. They are receiver RUMs
as deep as NDY in the league. Their line is healthy,
I you know, And I think Kellen Moore is going
to make a difference for Justin Herbert. And I know
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the Chargers are forever next year's team, right like they've
forever and ever. They've been the most talented teams nobly,
But I just it was hard. I'll just put this way, Brady.
It's hard to go. It's hard to it's hard to
go to one of their practices now and not be like,
holy crap, look at this group.
Speaker 6 (46:11):
You know, Okay, okay, but here's the thing. That was
a playoff team last year. I want someone who wasn't
a playoff team. That's that's going to surprise a lot
of people.
Speaker 7 (46:20):
Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Wow, Okay, that's surprising Atlanta.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Yeah, And I know everybody's staring at the quarterback. I
think they're one of the most well coached teams in
the league. And if you look at the beginning of
last year, they actually now like last year, if you
will go back and you look at the first months,
they played really well and you know, they did fade
as the season went on, but like, I think that
that was indicative of a team that was like being
(46:47):
coached over its head a little bit early in the year.
They started to put good young players in that roster.
There's some depths in that roster. Now. The offensive line
is really good. They've invested in the defensive line, and
I think if you're good on the lines of scrimmage.
Then you're going to be in every game. I think
they can manage the quarterback position. Like I don't think
Desmond Raiders a world beater, but I do think he's
a winner. And then you look at the skills that
(47:10):
they have on offense between Beijon and Drake London and
Kyle Pitts. And it's in a weak division. You know,
I would not be floored if Atlanta won that division.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
Wow, all right, Albert is something?
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So one quickly we got about thirty seconds left and
just kind of throwing a random number out there again
just you know, just spitballing here on the air. But
you mentioned Justin Herbert having a monster year. Do you
think Justin Herbert will have I don't know more or
less than twenty nine and a half touchdown passes this.
Speaker 5 (47:40):
Year over over over over.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Okay, come on, Oh, just wondering, because I mean that
is something if anybody's interested in. That's where we have
the line set at here twenty.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Nine and a half.
Speaker 7 (47:52):
You can you find a way to Like, can you
find a way to I'm not an expert gambler, but
can't you find a way to move that number up?
Speaker 5 (47:58):
So because you can he's it.
Speaker 4 (48:00):
I might say no, it probably can't.
Speaker 7 (48:01):
Maybe tease that alcohol.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
Yeah, I think they're doing that at Hawkeye Stadium in
Iowa City right now. I think that's where they're putting
that stuff together.
Speaker 6 (48:10):
Hey, Albert, Albert, who's your pick for the next athletic
director at Ohio State. Jean Smith's in a hell of
a job. He's obviously up here in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 7 (48:20):
Yeah, Notre Dame guy, Jean Smith.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
Right, that's right?
Speaker 7 (48:23):
Yeah, I I you know the name I've heard that.
I really like this patch On at Washington State. He's
from I believe Strongsville, Ohio, worked you know, under Jean
Smith at Ohio State. And you know this Brady like
they like, you just need somebody who understands that place.
It's just like and understanding that place is understanding football
(48:45):
is number one, and investing in football and being ahead
of the curve on that stuff. And I think bringing
in patch On from from from Washington State would be
the right move. So that'd be the.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Guy for me is get him on X or Twitter
or whatever the hell it's called. At Albert Breer, he's
a senior at We're going X throw those how careful.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Now Brady gets Brady got mad earlier when we.
Speaker 5 (49:07):
Call it twitter, right, I didn't get mad. I just
was more posing the question, like what do we call it? Now?
That's all I see is X.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
And then like I was doing something the other day
and they put up my my ex handle and had
the X with my name, and I was like, oh, yeah,
it's not like it's not really the Twitter bird anymore.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
It's odd, but nonetheless like this.
Speaker 7 (49:26):
Is not just like a bord rich guy seriously, like, right,
that's what this is.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
Yeah, I don't know, he's pretty entertaining if he is bored.
Speaker 4 (49:33):
Yes it is.
Speaker 7 (49:34):
It is funny, I know, But does just seem like
it's like let's see what I can get away with?
Speaker 4 (49:39):
Yes, I mean it just feels that way.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
If I'm paying forty four billion dollars or something, I
want to see how everything works and mess with some stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Why not? Yeah, you know, I spent spend a lot
of money.
Speaker 7 (49:49):
On it, so I can appreciate. I can appreciate somebody
who likes to mess with people this way. And yeah,
because of the money, he can do it. It's you know,
I'm pretty high level.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
So forty four billion dollars to bust every these balls.
There's nothing wrong with that, So good for Elon Musk.
Albert Briers senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, so there
he goes. Albert's going to be at the Bob Bowl
later on tonight the Patriots and the Houston Texans as
they deal with Bill O'Brien's he and his exes. There,
speaking of exes, so always fun catching up with Albert
(50:19):
here on a Thursday morning.
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