August 17, 2023 • 41 mins
Coaches outwardly approve of donnybrooks and fisticuffs at practice. Jonathan Taylor leaves the Colts for a personal matter. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys live from a tarmac in Newark. Plus, a preview of Browns @ Eagles on Over/Unders.
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the point in training camps across football where we got
(01:19):
Donnie Brooks, we got fisticuffs, we got some fights, skirmishes.
Seems like every team around the NFL has been in
some sort of a fight, some sort of an issue
at training camp or at a joint practice as we've
reached that time of year. But there's a couple of
different schools of thoughts when it comes to training campfights
(01:40):
and all of that, the first of which was Robert
Sala of the New York Jets, who spoke yesterday about
Tony Odin, an assistant coach there with the New York Jets,
who apparently just happened to get in the way of
a huge fight at the joint practice for the New
York Jets, and Robert Sala reiterated his thoughts and feelings
(02:02):
about skirmishes or fights if you will, a training camp.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
He's doing fine. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I
know there was during one of the altercations. I think
he caught a some friendly fire and so we took
him for precaution. He's awake, he's doing fine, he's stable, says,
So everything's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's hot, you guys know me.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's a I joke around, but it is what it is,
keeping below the neck, above the waist. And at the
same time, if if you want to get a little
extra conditioning in and have a little skirmish of pushing
and shoving, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's not gonna hurt you. But it doesn't bother.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Me, all right, So just let him fly, you know, just.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
That fighting was over, not that a lot of coaches
were not tolerant of fights anymore. It's because of what
could come of it, you know.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Oh come on, you know, you know those guys love
that stuff, Like I always feel like when it happens
on the field, they'll talk like they don't want it
to happen. They'll say, all you can break a hand,
you know, your wrists something like that, and then you're
getting meeting rooms. They're just like it's they're all about it.
They're all about it like they players.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
You know, just what what what are y'all two over
here walking off the field for you don't see your
one of your main dudes from one of your main dudes.
We have one of your main dudes out here fighting.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You want to hear the Deon Sanders clip.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
He was fired up because apparently a couple of players
for Colorado didn't partake in the fisticuffs.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
I see two of y'all walking off over there, and
you gotta keep teammate fight.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Nowhere, one fight, we all fight. You understand that. I
don't want to see y'all walking off put somebody's fight. No,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So apparently.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Where I do that, it's camp LeVar Counts speak to
us better than I can. I mean, as a quarterback,
you're like, you try to go in and break it up.
You get to a and we're like, oh, okay, this
isn't yeah, but you know it is hot. Guys are
tired of hitting each other. They're tired of going against
each other. They're they're ready to actually get into real games.
And even as little hitting as they do now, where
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it used to be a lot more, there's still elements
where like that stuff, you know, gets tiring after a while.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
I mean, tempers are tempers, and you get out there
and it's a physical game. You know, the first thing
that comes to mind. Probably for a regular you know,
every day, go to go to work, tap in, you know,
check in, check out when when it's your time. Is
like they don't do that anywhere else. You know, there's
(04:42):
no other profession where you just get to take your
frustrations out, like oh I don't like this employee, Like
I'm gonna just punch them in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It's it's it's an interesting dynamic, it really is, because
sometimes it can go far enough where you know, charges
are out or settlements you know, take place, and and
that's you know, kind of been a part of it
as well. But I don't know, it's it's interesting because
(05:12):
I'm having this conversation and I was a fighter. I
was the starter, I was the facilitator, I was an instigator.
I was I was a fighter just like well, I
don't know about instigating on this show. Just give my opinions.
I think you are actually the biggest natural Attgatt.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah you're pretty good at it.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Uh but yeah, I mean, and and again, I always.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
People people used to ask, like why you fight so much?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
And and for one is like one, I brought a
level of intensity to to what I was doing. And
sometimes you know, guys didn't like the level of intensity.
And then there would be other times where it's like,
you know, Ross Tucker always tells his inaccurate story of
our our skirmish.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean it's so.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Over and bids the skirmish, like tell your Stucker talks
like he's like a first ballot Hall of Famer when
he tells these stories, like I didn't need any friends.
You know, LaVar was out there and I grabbed him up,
which was this was true, right we were doing.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What we were doing was.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
A three quarters to less than three quarters speed kind
of almost like a faster walkthrough of blitz schemes and
blocking schemes.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And it was the first.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
D and I believe there it was the first offense
as well. Well, you're supposed to take like three or
four good hard steps and then stop right, you know,
and let them block you. So I'm doing it and
Ross is grabbing me and like like grabbing me up
like he's like an all pro, and I'm like, Ross,
(06:56):
stop effing grabbing me, dude, Like get your fit in,
we're good, but all this like you grabbing me by
my pats and like like riding me like you're about
to like dump me into the ground, like, bro, you
got one two more times to do it. I'm just
telling you, like, this is not a real this is
not a real period like respect the period.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
And he kept doing it, and and so what happened
was and I'm a fighter, so I know what to do.
And I ripped his helmet off, and I start, well,
I pulled it up first and started working his chin,
and then I think I started working his chin like
you know, upper cutting the hell out of him like boom,
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boom boom, like like about five six of them, like bam,
like six upper cuts. And then everybody gets into it,
of course. And after the skirmish ends, I'm walking off
like talking crazy, like you know, calling calling the old
line a bunch of bees and this that and the other.
And I'm and I'm holding Ross Tucker's helmet, and Ross
(08:00):
Tucker starts to like run up on me. And I
don't know if he was running to get his helmet,
if he was running to sneak me from behind, but
I'm walking off and I see his shadow. I see
the shadow of somebody running up on me, and I
swing the helmet like at the shadow, like behind my
head like swing it like quick and I missed him,
(08:22):
but it was like I see you coming, like you
were coming for me, like like I'm going to try
to take your face off, and and and so the
idea of of those those interactions, it's like kind of
like it raises the tempo of of what what's taking place.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's like if you came out and it was a.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Little a little relaxed, or it was a little subdued,
or guys are too too friendly with one another, I'd
start a fight.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Yeah, I start a fight. I could see that well.
But by the way, it's one of the reasons why
I don't believe. And it's either full go or it's
walked through. I never I've never believed. Every every single
time I've seen some sort of mix of this.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
For some stool, it's not quite full, but it's not this.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
I was like, I've never understood because you're talking about
the ultimate competitors all on the same field, and someone's
gonna try to get an edge. That's just how it works.
And so you either say it's a walk through pace
where everyone knows what that means. It's a walk you're
not doing all that, or you say it's full go.
I just I think anything in between is stupid. Like
(09:34):
you're you're almost you're almost practicing bad habits. I mean,
if you're being real with yourselves, because you're said you
would never you would never ask a guy to go
out there and play anything less than full speed in
a real live game scenario or scrimmage scenario. So then
why the hell would you ask him to try to
go anything less than that because it's not gonna help.
It's like you either just walk through it. You go
(09:55):
from the classroom, you walk through in the field, you
go full go. That Those are the three, you know,
types of teaching that I think works. Anything in between
I think leads to some of these fights.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
I mean, like I said, three steps, get get your fit,
and stop.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I could stop.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Von Miller used to to do. He would just go
full speed and walk throughs. And that was where it
like he just was gonna do what he was gonna do.
And when he was a rookie it bothered a lot
of guys like he used to create.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know, that's that sort of thing, and you know
he was such a special player.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I think people that like eventually they just stopped putting
those periods in, but they have any walk through between
one offense one defense, right, and that was it, Like
they just they knew what he was gonna do and
like a backup offensive lineman wasn't gonna We're gonna mess.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
With going Ross isn't going to the Hall of you know.
So the story is a little different when you say
von Miller was doing it and Ross was doing it. Oh,
do respect Ross because Ross was a good teammate too.
By the way, I'm not saying it's like to downgrade
him or diminish him. I'm just saying, like the way
he tells the story, he tells the story like yeah,
I had to whoop his ass and I didn't need
(11:04):
any friends or anything like that, Like Ross, I kicked
your ass on that field that day. I worked his
jaw line so bad and it was quick too. Yeah, right, Shanobi.
Did you guys ever have a coach kid it?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Though?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like I think what flew under the radar of this
segment is that.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
The poor man, like first off, someone said he was
carted off, and they like someone tried to say it
was like a knee injury. And then then it comes
out and he's like, all right, maybe he caught some
friendly fire.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I'm like, yeah, but this solid says he was. He
was coherent and he was awake, so he'd like to sleep.
Somebody put him to sleep by his own guy though,
it was about fire fire.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
So somebody ducked and he caught a stray paint.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, went straight to sleep. That's why you can't.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I mean, that's the other thing as a quarterback, right,
you can get in there for a minute where you're
trying to break something up because ye I mean you
look at it as not productive, but once they start rolling,
it's like, all right, you're probably better off not mixing
it up, breaking your hand being involved in all this
that actually can't impact things.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Okay. With the guardian helmet though, is that who were like,
I don't know, going to protect you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm getting the helmet off.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
This reminds we had a we had a fight in
college in the sidelines, and I remember remember the John L.
Smith interview after the game when he was at Michigan State.
He was like hitting himself. That's he was hitting himself
in the face to demonstrate that he thought Charlie Weiss
got hit by friendly fire. Because this whole thing broke
out on the sidelines when when we were in East Lansing.
(12:38):
I'll never forget that, And it was like that was
the beginning to the end of John L.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Smith at Michigan State because it was so weird as
a coach. It was the head coach. Do you remember
this wasn't he back in the league league?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Could we roll this in? Was this?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Wait? Two thousand? This was two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Okay, because there was another meltdown against Ohio State as
well too.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, no, this was two thousand and six.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
This was like the beginning of the end, like the
start of him like melting down, because basically there was
a we were down. We were down like sixteen points
that they had in the fourth quarter, and I don't
know if it was like it was either the third
or fourth quarter it happened. I just remember like there
was something that happened in the sidelines. Someone thought coach
Weiss got hit, a guy started going nuts, and then
(13:27):
next thing you know, we come roaring back and get
the win.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And then after the game, all John L.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Smith was talking about is how that like it was
friendly fire. It wasn't even it wasn't even one of
their players.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
He smacked himself pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Like that was like that was an all time you
know viral clip back then.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, well, hey, listen, we're gonna have the regular season
coming up soon, and everybody's gonna be all right. I
didn't know that. I didn't know you and Ross Tucker
had beef though. I like Ross Tucker, like Ross too.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. I just saw Ross and Avalon not too long ago.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
You guys get along. Yeah, okay, did he ever get
his helmet back?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah? I gave it back. I gave it back.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
You did that work?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Though.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I did use it in the clinch little dirty boxing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I used it.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, I used it, not like how your boy in
Cleveland did it, but I definitely.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Used it fair enough.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It is tooke.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I went and facing him and swung it like a
baseball bat and tried to take his life or anything else.
I was walking off, and I was actually the one
that was under attack, you know, So we're clear on that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
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Speaker 3 (14:50):
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Speaker 4 (15:04):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. By the way,
coming up a little over twenty minutes from now, in
honor of Iowa and Iowa State, we're going to do
some over unders on a preseason football game coming up
later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Although we may pick some overs in this case, right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, we're not going to peticainst ourselves. No, we would
want not that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm saying, Mike.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
If you're an Iowa fan or even player, you probably
picked a lot unders.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Also, you got it. You don't want to piss off
Iowa fans. As you've learned earlier today on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know, Iowa dump you.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, you don't want to dump you for real, you
will get dumped. That will happen. So we were expecting
to catch up with Albert Breer here, senior NFL reporter
at the NFL at the MMQB. But Albert is traveling.
He's got some issues. That's par for the course. So
we're going to hopefully connect with Albert at some point
during the course of this show. One of the things
(16:00):
I did want to ask Albert is it feels like
the Jonathan Taylor situation just continues to get more awkward.
This time he's gone from training camp again. It's a
personal matter. It's apparently an excused absence.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
It has nothing to do, reportedly with his unhappiness about
the contract status or the fact that Jim Orsay reference
death and that nobody would miss him if he wasn't
in the NFL anymore. So it's got nothing to do
with that, apparently. But it just feels like another awkward
turn in an off season for seemingly is a really
good dude who just finds himself in this really kind
(16:37):
of no man's land spot with the Indianapolis Colts as
they get ready for the season coming up in a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Yeah, so it feels like the Colts have everything set
but that situation, and usually, as any team, you'd like
to have all business done wrapped up before the season
starts for all parties involved. Now, Jontha Taylor's still in
the pub, so in regards to his presence one way
or another, it doesn't really matter until they take him
(17:05):
off the pub.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Right, Yeah, and then they can then they would be
able to move on for if they see fit.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Well, I mean, he would have to want to come
back and play, not hold out and play for what
he's scheduled to make this year. But that's that's kind
of where we're at is. You know, he he doesn't
really have any recourse. We've talked about this at length
this offseason. You know, it's it's unfortunate that the running
back market is the way it is. You know, they've
(17:32):
got depth there. They've got Zach Moss, they drafted Evan
Hole this year. They just signed Kenyon Drake as well,
another veteran running back who's very capable.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You announced who your starter is going to be.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It's now just a matter of is Jonathan Taylor want
to come back, finish this thing out, and go into
potentially pressing the Colts to let you go into free
agency or or put the franchise tag on you. It's
it's not a great spot to be in. But if
you look across the league at other running backs in
similar spots, I think they all were disappointed with what
they ended up taking. You know, Sakwad Barkley comes back,
(18:05):
takes the non exclusive franchise tag, number, gets a little
tweaked to it to help out you know, Josh Jacobs,
everything's been quiet on that front. Yeah, and then you've
got Dalvin Cook, who probably took less than he wanted
to take, and Zeke Elliott same thing, probably a lot
less than he wanted to take. But that's the reality
of it for veteran running backs in this league, even
(18:25):
guys who've proved themselves and have at one point, especially
in the case of Jonathan Taylor, been at the top
of the league. So there's really nothing else you can
do at this point. But as far as his absence
and all that, none of that really matters until until
they take him off the PUP.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
To me, and I think right now Zach moss Is
is questionable, which I mean that doesn't matter if you're
listed as on the injury report right now.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
There's time.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Didn't he break his arm, that Zach Moss broke his
forearm or something like that. Maybe I'm crossing the streams
with somebody else. If we got that wrong, I will
take that out of the.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Podcast as well. All I say is that's the problem. Yeh.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
What I'll say here is is that with Dion Jackson
or Zach Moss, like, they're not Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And when when we when we look.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
At these these type of topics and how they're going
to play out, we'll find out if what what they're
thinking as as we move forward, you know, into the seasons,
if they move forward without Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So I mean maybe Albert Breer has the answers for
all this. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. He's
navigating the tricky deal that is traveling across the US
to try and get to certain places to cover NFL
games and cover NFL training camps. Albert, how's it going.
How you feeling on a Thursday morning?
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Well, the bad news is I'm still on a plane
right now. The good news is I might have time
because this is the newer airport that I'm at, so
I could be in the charmac for a while.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Okay, well, that's always fun. We were talking about just
how awkward the situation is with Jonathan Taylor and the Colts.
Do you think that this has gotten to the personal
portion of things to where it's maybe less about money
as much as it is about the comments Jim Mersey made,
And either Jim Mersey is going to have a conversation
(20:20):
with Jonathan Taylor and try and make things right, or
maybe they need to move on.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I mean, I think like that Morris is out of
the stable and I'm running full speed now. As far
as it's becoming personal, I think it's been personal for
a little while now.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
And you know, I just sort of look at.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Like how the Giants handled their situation with Saquon, and
you know, they didn't have to give him the sweetener,
but you know, like I think they had sensed that
that one was getting a little personal and they felt
like they had to give him an all his fall
branch and just show him what he meant to the team.
And I think that's part of it with Jonathan Taylor too.
(20:59):
You know, I mean, look like maybe you don't want
to extend and based on the way the injury went
last year and everything else, I personally think like it
wouldn't be a bad investment based on what he's done
for you and based on you know, how important I
think he's going to be to your young quarterback. But
even if you don't want to extend him, there are
different ways to do this, you know, And you know,
(21:20):
I just think this is one of the reasons why
you're responsible to your salary cap and they have been
is so you know, you do have the leeway to
do something like this night. You know, I personally think
just based on how respected he is as a player,
he's a captain, all that different stuff. Like I don't
I don't know what the downside would be to saying, Okay,
(21:40):
well maybe we we can't find common ground right now
on an extension, but like if we give you a
couple of incentives on your contract here where you know,
if you hit certain markers, you produce like you produce
in the past, you come in and you're a good soldier,
we'll resolve to talk again when the season is over.
I just I don't know, guys, I don't know what
the downside is that, you know, and I can understand
(22:02):
sometimes teams don't want to, you know, step precedent when
it comes to you know, players, you know, staging hold
ends or whatever and rewarding them. But this is one
of the most respected guys in your locker room, so
you know, I think you can make an exception for
a guy like that.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean I love the thought and idea behind it.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
I just think teams, if the player goes and plays
and he gets hurt the season, are they really going
to honor whatever was discussed or talked about.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean typically, you know they're going to come back and.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Say, yeah, well that was before you had another season,
you know, ending injury where you missed six games or seven.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Games that position.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I mean again, the the you know, the laws of
supply and demand are not kind to the running back
position and how it affects the economics of it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm more curious. Are you on the plane right now, Albert?
Speaker 10 (22:49):
Yeah I am, But we we just landed.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Okay, But how in the world is no, you can't
hear anyone around you, and there's no like announcement being made.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Nobody to be quiet. Yeah, like, did you tell everyone
around you to be quiet? How's this working out?
Speaker 9 (23:03):
This is like, this is actually not bad right now.
I think it's probably an early morning flight. I'm not
talking that loud and uh or at least I'm trying
not to.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm like, naturally, are you sitting next to someone? No?
Speaker 9 (23:15):
No, no, no, it's like it's a it's a it was
a spiky bos New York.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
It's like it's a shuttle.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
I wish it was private. It's a shuttle. So I'm
in like one of those single roads and going I
need to know one's sitting there.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Hey, how was the Logan terminal bathroom?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
You guys like that? I would give it. I would
give it maybe like a solid D minus.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah. So so basically, you, you know, do your business
and then you have to review how the bathroom was
at the airport.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Yeah, they've got a lot of those now, They've got
that in LA. It's either like a smiley face or.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
Or the red mad face of the brown right.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
Yeah, it's a bad experience.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Today I used the luxury box and uh yeah I
had a good experience.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Yeah, sorry, I was just more curious about your your
airline travelers. I think most people who travel on airlines,
it's like, how is it so quiet and you're actually
on a plane, Like no one's giving enough buy it
from the captain.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
I think, you know what's weird.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
What's weird is I think my phone is actually holding
up too, which is always the case, you know, as
you guys know. So I thought that I thought maybe
like throwing the ranch of being on an airplane might
like make it even worse.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Maybe maybe maybe it's where I.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Needed all my calls to you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Sounds great, Hey.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Hey Albert, I wanted to ask you about a personal
team of mine, my childhood team, the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
There.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
You know, it sounds like there's a lot of excitement
starting to kind of build up in Pittsburgh. A lot
of people believe that this could be a breakout year
for for Picket.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Pickens is amazing.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
The receiving cores they have is you know, they they
got some guys on that that deal as usual. Have
you have you gotten any kind of feedback on on
what that you know, what Picket is looking like and
how that may play out for this season.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean I think, I mean, obviously there you go,
there's your note final.
Speaker 10 (25:14):
Yeah, I knew what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I knew it's gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I mean, yeah, you look at the way they finished
last year, get over five hundred at the end of
the year, and for Picket to kind of catch fire
at the end of the year there, and what they've
done around him now and in drafting off tackle in
the first round and Broderick Jones, and you know, the
question with George Pickens was never talent, you know what
I mean, Like he was always seen as sort of
(25:42):
a high first round type of talent. It was just everything,
you know, as far as approach and football makeup and
all that that those were the questions with him.
Speaker 10 (25:52):
And you know.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
I think if you look at Mike Commins history and
his ability to assimilate different types of personalities into the
pro Graham leveyon Belly, Antonio Brown, you know, like they
were They've always been able to handle guys like that,
you know, And so it looks to me like if
you if you see where they finished the year last year, like, yeah,
this should be a team that is very optimistic about
(26:16):
where they were coming out of last year. And where
they are going into this year. You know, the question,
of course is going to be the division.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
And if you look at the division, you know, the Bengals.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Have every right to believe that they'll be right in.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
The mix for the super Bowl. Again.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
The Ravens had you know, injuries last year, obviously to
the quarterback. Lamar is fully on board again with new
contract now, and Cleveland should be better, you know, based
on how sideways last year was, they should come.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Out of that.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
And you know, the hopes should be high there that
they're going to get to de Shaun Watson three or
four years ago. So you know, that's really the question
is like who finishes last of that division?
Speaker 10 (26:51):
Who makes the playoffs? Who doesn't? You know?
Speaker 9 (26:53):
And is there a chance they cannibalize each other? I
think that those are the real questions here right I
certainly think there's a reason for reason to believe that
Pittsburgh's going to be right there in the mix.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
If you had to, if you had to lay a
bett Albert, which are the four teams would you pick?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean, I think.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Based on over unders, the Pittsburgh stillers have the lowest
over under in the division.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I believe.
Speaker 10 (27:14):
To finish last.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
I mean, I think the Browns probably have the most variables,
you know, where what what does the Shawn look like,
What does that offensive line look like? How do Wills,
Wills and contemplay, the tackle positions, what happens the receiver?
You know, their defense should be pretty good, but they
got a new coordinator, so you know, how does the
(27:36):
Jim Schwartz things play out. I would say, of like
the four teams in the division, like I think Pittsburgh steady,
Like I don't think that they're going to be I
don't think they're going to be a thirteen win team,
but you could see them like anywhere from like eight
to eleven wins, right Whereas like Cleveland, it's like easy
to see sort of either scenario where it plays out
(27:58):
where they win the division vision or they're a five one.
Speaker 10 (28:01):
Team, you know.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
And so I would say I would say Cleveland's probably
got the biggest variable and.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Of any team in the division.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
I think it's a really good roster, but there's just
lots of things that play there that could go one.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Way or another.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
It is part of that Deshaun Watson and you know,
I know his quarterback towel and everything else that goes.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Along with that.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
We'd say it again, Brady Starry.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Yeah, as part of that, just Deshaun Watson and the
inconsistent play and potential off the field, concerned about his quarterback,
Towell and what may happen with that.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
I lost the very end of your.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Quarterback on the quarterback towel like that the towels.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think I'll leave
that one alone.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
But I think that Shawn is like, I do you
think I do. I do think like.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
That, Like they're gonna have a better They're gonna have
a better handle on how to deploy him this year. Like,
I do think that that part of it it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Got You've got a lot of handles on it, don't
They a lot of deploying too.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Yeah, you guys want to continue to Shawn Watson conversation here.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We talked about earlier. It's kind of going to be
around for a while, isn't it. I mean it's not
going away like forever.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
No, No, it's not. It's not. I will say that
I do think like coming out of.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Like the circus is probably the wrong term, but like
everything that happened last year, and you know, like having
to go through. Okay, Like here's Deshawn's last day before
the suspension. Here's d Kobe Rissett's last start, Here's Dashawn's
first starting. Now the Shawn is assimilating himself back into
the offense, everybody's suggesting, like everything they dealt with last year,
(29:48):
I mean, and everything they went to and everything they
gave to give it to get him. I mean, there's
a lot of pressure on a lot of people in
that building now for him to deliver, you know, and
you know, from ownership on, like they they gave up
what they gave up based on the Shawn getting back
to the level of play he you know, he was
the level he was at in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty,
(30:12):
and you know, I think a lot of people were
willing to look at and say, okay, like twenty two
is a little bit of a mulligan year because you
knew you were going to be dealing with some things,
you know, with the league.
Speaker 10 (30:22):
And everything else.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
You know, But now we're out of that, and so
you know, I think there's you know, certainly a lot
of people in that building who have a lot riding
on how de Sean play this year.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
It's Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You
can get him on Twitter at Albert Brier always kind
enough to join us here on a Thursday morning, even
when he's got to review a bathroom and its performance
and then call us from a plane as he's sitting
on a tarmat. Yeah, we appreciated Albert, like like I.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Like I said, I'll give the I'll give the terminal
a bath from the Logan Airport B minus which I think,
which which which I which I think for like an
airport bathroom isn't bath right?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I bet? Yeah, sure it's above average? Real quick? Are
you one of the types of guys.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
As soon as you pull up to the gate and
the fastened seatbelt sign goes off, you pop up right away?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Or you that guy?
Speaker 10 (31:12):
No?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed
by that guy. I've I've I think there was probably
a point when I was younger, when I first started
traveling a lot, where maybe I was that guy. I'm
way too much of a grizzled bet to do that now, though,
I'm annoyed by those people as much as you.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Are, pro pro love.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Make sure to help me with some you know, some
old ladies that could be you know, needing their their
luggage brought down though, make sure you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Help them out. Now, I'm gonna jump up and steer
at you on the faces when I'm on the fight
with y'all.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Good, Albert, that's that's pretty Quinn, man of the people.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, that's right, of the.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
People, Albert. We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
Continue to travel safe and we always love hanging out
with you out of Thursday morning.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Thanks, So there is Alba Brier joining us here on
Fox boards.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So do you guys want to can tindue to have
the tal Watson conversation?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I think he wanted to as well too, but he's
not used to that because most shows steer away from
that conversation. Not this one. We go straight into traffic. Yeah,
we don't mind it at all.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Well, he also wasn't here for the first portion of
our show where it was brought up in regards to
the fight that took place.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That's very true.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
That is true, all right. So it is two pros
and a cup of joe here. So let's catch up
now without with excuse me, not Albert Breer.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Good God with.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Edmund Garcia for all the latest from around the world
of sports. Sorry, Eddie, it's all right, My apologies.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It's all right.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
I'm just picturing uh, Deshaun Watson like bouncing his towel
off of walls.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right, like catching it, but like Ninja stars, you know, yeah,
like one of those Captain America shield and one man's
towels another man's waiters trade.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You do this all day.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
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left training camp for what the team called an excused
personal matter. Reports all right, it's not related to his
unhappiness over getting a new contract extension, which caused them
to sit out to start a camp. Baseball games and
note battle of division leaders in LA Dodgers won their
tenth straight with a seven to one win over the Brewers.
The Arrangers were shut out by the Angels two nothing show.
(33:11):
He O Tani hit his forty second home run of
the year in the win for Texas, their lead atop
the Al West down to two and a half games
on Houston. The Astros game ground with a twelve to
five win over the Marlins. That's for Miami. They're now
tied with both Chicago and Cincinnati for the final wildcard
spot in the National League. Cubs meet the White Sox
four to three on a walk off three on Homer
reds over the Guardians seven to two. Chicago and Cincinnati
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Central Race. The Blue Jays lose to the Phillies nine
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to five. Seattle moves one game back at Toronto for
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back of Baltimore for first in the Al East. News
from Baseball Latin insider Hector Gomez reported overnight that a
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Speaker 3 (35:52):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I have been loading you you aligning low life gambling January.
It's over under all, right, lead to lap. What do
we got in this preseason game? All right?
Speaker 12 (36:03):
We got Browns at Eagles in the over under is
set at thirty eight and a half m I take
the over.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'm more of a defensive guy, which I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Take the under. I'm also gonna take the under.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I mean it's kind of are we throwing shade at DTR.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Now you can play great. He's the only one though.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
He seems like he's been pretty impressive in camp so
far in the pre seasons.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
He's got all the tools, man, and he'd be the
perfect backup to Watson. And I want to say it
backup because they're pot committed to Watson.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They paid him all that money.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 12 (36:42):
Well, speaking of DTR, number of passing touchdowns for Dorian
Thompson Robinson at a hat over, I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I'll take the over as well, although that's a tough matchup.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
By the way, I think Josh Dobbs is not playing
in this game. Is that a bad sign for Josh Dobbs?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
And it's a lot of people to playing.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
I think they know what they have in Dobbs. I
think they'd rather get DTR the experience. I mean, they
did spend a draft pick on him, so you got
to figure out. And by the way, the third quarterback
designation's back, So even if DTR was the backup. They
could keep Dobbs on the roster. Then you know, he
wouldn't have to be acting necessarily on game day, you know,
(37:26):
so they could activate him if needed.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Let mean, what about Kellen Mond. You know he's still there.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
He could be in a tough spot.
Speaker 12 (37:32):
Okay, all right, what do we got lead on to
the other side. Number of rushing yards for Marcus Mariotain
this game?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Nine and a half over. I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
God, that feels pretty low.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's always like that, though.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
It's one of the best bets you can make in
a Super Bowl. On let me think the overrun quarterback
rushing yards.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
All right, let me tell you why Brady loves his
bet because he hit it on Stetson Bennett on the
first play for Georgia or something like that in the
National Championship game, and it was the lock of the night.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
And he was hold on, hold on, hold on. Different
rules in college football and in the NFL. If you
get sacked in college, it comes off of.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Your rushing total. A lot of people out there aren't
aware of that.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That is that true?
Speaker 10 (38:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And then if you get the sack yards come off
your passing yards. In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Huh.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
So it's a difference when you look at the prop
bet for rushing yards. So that was a little more
risking even though he hit the over right away.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
They came off for passing yards. Now that you're saying it,
I thought it came off of your rushing yards. Now
they're doing college on the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That sucks.
Speaker 12 (38:38):
I'll take the under on this, all right, Fellas. In
the broadcast, first thing that you see, will it be
the Rocky Statue, the Liberty Bell or Geno's slash Pats either.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Liberty Bell?
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, because I feel like if they showed Genoa.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
At or none of the above, like there has to
be a none of the above above. Yeah, he loves it.
It's the none of the above.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I feel like, no, none of the above. I feel
like it's going to be the Rocky statue, just because
I don't know that they'd want to fight well, I
don't know that they'd want to give Geno's or Pats
publicity for free, especially with how much people pay for
sponsorship in some of these broadcasts.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So I feel like you want them to give slices
to love the publicity.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
You throw a little love at the Rocky statue.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You know, just I don't think they're going to show
any of it.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
Prus.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean, you know, the Browns are partaking and there's
like a long lineage of great Ohio fighters. You know,
a lot of though, Kelly Padlock, Aaron Pryor.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
You know, Adrian always upset with Rocky, like she always
wanted Rocky to stop fighting.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You married a fighter.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I mean she makes ten cents an hour in a
pet shop.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I mean he needed to fight.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
What do you expect?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
You know what I mean? Geez, come on Adrian to
support your guy.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I know, no, none of the above, Levari picked one.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
No going on none of the above. I mean, if
I have to pick one, I'm going Liberty bail. But
it's it's none of the above.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I mean, he is the over unders king, so he
can kind of do what he wants.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Thank you. True, that's true, That's true. He basically made
this game. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (40:19):
Finally, guys, which team is penalized more Eagles or Browns.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Based on how chippy practices have been. I'm gonna say
the Eagles. I think I think they've been bullying him
a little bit.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
I'm gonna say the Browns only because that defensive pass
rush could get some holdings false starts.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's what he thinks.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
All right, that's over UNDERSATR.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
How about that? How about that?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Couple of clock guys here?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
All about the clock?
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the point in training camps across football where we got
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Donnie Brooks, we got fisticuffs, we got some fights, skirmishes.
Seems like every team around the NFL has been in
some sort of a fight, some sort of an issue
at training camp or at a joint practice as we've
reached that time of year. But there's a couple of
different schools of thoughts when it comes to training campfights
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and all of that, the first of which was Robert
Sala of the New York Jets, who spoke yesterday about
Tony Odin, an assistant coach there with the New York Jets,
who apparently just happened to get in the way of
a huge fight at the joint practice for the New
York Jets, and Robert Sala reiterated his thoughts and feelings
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about skirmishes or fights if you will, a training camp.
Speaker 5 (02:06):
He's doing fine. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I
know there was during one of the altercations. I think
he caught a some friendly fire and so we took
him for precaution. He's awake, he's doing fine, he's stable, says,
So everything's fine.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
It's hot, you guys know me.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
It's a I joke around, but it is what it is,
keeping below the neck, above the waist. And at the
same time, if if you want to get a little
extra conditioning in and have a little skirmish of pushing
and shoving, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
It's not gonna hurt you. But it doesn't bother.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Me, all right, So just let him fly, you know, just.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
That fighting was over, not that a lot of coaches
were not tolerant of fights anymore. It's because of what
could come of it, you know.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Oh come on, you know, you know those guys love
that stuff, Like I always feel like when it happens
on the field, they'll talk like they don't want it
to happen. They'll say, all you can break a hand,
you know, your wrists something like that, and then you're
getting meeting rooms. They're just like it's they're all about it.
They're all about it like they players.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
You know, just what what what are y'all two over
here walking off the field for you don't see your
one of your main dudes from one of your main dudes.
We have one of your main dudes out here fighting.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
You want to hear the Deon Sanders clip.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
He was fired up because apparently a couple of players
for Colorado didn't partake in the fisticuffs.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
I see two of y'all walking off over there, and
you gotta keep teammate fight.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Nowhere, one fight, we all fight. You understand that. I
don't want to see y'all walking off put somebody's fight. No,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So apparently.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
Where I do that, it's camp LeVar Counts speak to
us better than I can. I mean, as a quarterback,
you're like, you try to go in and break it up.
You get to a and we're like, oh, okay, this
isn't yeah, but you know it is hot. Guys are
tired of hitting each other. They're tired of going against
each other. They're they're ready to actually get into real games.
And even as little hitting as they do now, where
(04:13):
it used to be a lot more, there's still elements
where like that stuff, you know, gets tiring after a while.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
I mean, tempers are tempers, and you get out there
and it's a physical game. You know, the first thing
that comes to mind. Probably for a regular you know,
every day, go to go to work, tap in, you know,
check in, check out when when it's your time. Is
like they don't do that anywhere else. You know, there's
(04:42):
no other profession where you just get to take your
frustrations out, like oh I don't like this employee, Like
I'm gonna just punch them in the mouth.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
It's it's it's an interesting dynamic, it really is, because
sometimes it can go far enough where you know, charges
are out or settlements you know, take place, and and
that's you know, kind of been a part of it
as well. But I don't know, it's it's interesting because
(05:12):
I'm having this conversation and I was a fighter. I
was the starter, I was the facilitator, I was an instigator.
I was I was a fighter just like well, I
don't know about instigating on this show. Just give my opinions.
I think you are actually the biggest natural Attgatt.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah you're pretty good at it.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Uh but yeah, I mean, and and again, I always.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
People people used to ask, like why you fight so much?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
And and for one is like one, I brought a
level of intensity to to what I was doing. And
sometimes you know, guys didn't like the level of intensity.
And then there would be other times where it's like,
you know, Ross Tucker always tells his inaccurate story of
our our skirmish.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I mean it's so.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
Over and bids the skirmish, like tell your Stucker talks
like he's like a first ballot Hall of Famer when
he tells these stories, like I didn't need any friends.
You know, LaVar was out there and I grabbed him up,
which was this was true, right we were doing.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
What we were doing was.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
A three quarters to less than three quarters speed kind
of almost like a faster walkthrough of blitz schemes and
blocking schemes.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And it was the first.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
D and I believe there it was the first offense
as well. Well, you're supposed to take like three or
four good hard steps and then stop right, you know,
and let them block you. So I'm doing it and
Ross is grabbing me and like like grabbing me up
like he's like an all pro, and I'm like, Ross,
(06:56):
stop effing grabbing me, dude, Like get your fit in,
we're good, but all this like you grabbing me by
my pats and like like riding me like you're about
to like dump me into the ground, like, bro, you
got one two more times to do it. I'm just
telling you, like, this is not a real this is
not a real period like respect the period.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
And he kept doing it, and and so what happened
was and I'm a fighter, so I know what to do.
And I ripped his helmet off, and I start, well,
I pulled it up first and started working his chin,
and then I think I started working his chin like
you know, upper cutting the hell out of him like boom,
(07:37):
boom boom, like like about five six of them, like bam,
like six upper cuts. And then everybody gets into it,
of course. And after the skirmish ends, I'm walking off
like talking crazy, like you know, calling calling the old
line a bunch of bees and this that and the other.
And I'm and I'm holding Ross Tucker's helmet, and Ross
(08:00):
Tucker starts to like run up on me. And I
don't know if he was running to get his helmet,
if he was running to sneak me from behind, but
I'm walking off and I see his shadow. I see
the shadow of somebody running up on me, and I
swing the helmet like at the shadow, like behind my
head like swing it like quick and I missed him,
(08:22):
but it was like I see you coming, like you
were coming for me, like like I'm going to try
to take your face off, and and and so the
idea of of those those interactions, it's like kind of
like it raises the tempo of of what what's taking place.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's like if you came out and it was a.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
Little a little relaxed, or it was a little subdued,
or guys are too too friendly with one another, I'd
start a fight.
Speaker 7 (08:55):
Yeah, I start a fight. I could see that well.
But by the way, it's one of the reasons why
I don't believe. And it's either full go or it's
walked through. I never I've never believed. Every every single
time I've seen some sort of mix of this.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
For some stool, it's not quite full, but it's not this.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
I was like, I've never understood because you're talking about
the ultimate competitors all on the same field, and someone's
gonna try to get an edge. That's just how it works.
And so you either say it's a walk through pace
where everyone knows what that means. It's a walk you're
not doing all that, or you say it's full go.
I just I think anything in between is stupid. Like
(09:34):
you're you're almost you're almost practicing bad habits. I mean,
if you're being real with yourselves, because you're said you
would never you would never ask a guy to go
out there and play anything less than full speed in
a real live game scenario or scrimmage scenario. So then
why the hell would you ask him to try to
go anything less than that because it's not gonna help.
It's like you either just walk through it. You go
(09:55):
from the classroom, you walk through in the field, you
go full go. That Those are the three, you know,
types of teaching that I think works. Anything in between
I think leads to some of these fights.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
I mean, like I said, three steps, get get your fit,
and stop.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
I could stop.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Von Miller used to to do. He would just go
full speed and walk throughs. And that was where it
like he just was gonna do what he was gonna do.
And when he was a rookie it bothered a lot
of guys like he used to create.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
You know, that's that sort of thing, and you know
he was such a special player.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
I think people that like eventually they just stopped putting
those periods in, but they have any walk through between
one offense one defense, right, and that was it, Like
they just they knew what he was gonna do and
like a backup offensive lineman wasn't gonna We're gonna mess.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
With going Ross isn't going to the Hall of you know.
So the story is a little different when you say
von Miller was doing it and Ross was doing it. Oh,
do respect Ross because Ross was a good teammate too.
By the way, I'm not saying it's like to downgrade
him or diminish him. I'm just saying, like the way
he tells the story, he tells the story like yeah,
I had to whoop his ass and I didn't need
(11:04):
any friends or anything like that, Like Ross, I kicked
your ass on that field that day. I worked his
jaw line so bad and it was quick too. Yeah, right, Shanobi.
Did you guys ever have a coach kid it?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Though?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Like I think what flew under the radar of this
segment is that.
Speaker 7 (11:22):
The poor man, like first off, someone said he was
carted off, and they like someone tried to say it
was like a knee injury. And then then it comes
out and he's like, all right, maybe he caught some
friendly fire.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
I'm like, yeah, but this solid says he was. He
was coherent and he was awake, so he'd like to sleep.
Somebody put him to sleep by his own guy though,
it was about fire fire.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
So somebody ducked and he caught a stray paint.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, went straight to sleep. That's why you can't.
Speaker 7 (11:50):
I mean, that's the other thing as a quarterback, right,
you can get in there for a minute where you're
trying to break something up because ye I mean you
look at it as not productive, but once they start rolling,
it's like, all right, you're probably better off not mixing
it up, breaking your hand being involved in all this
that actually can't impact things.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Okay. With the guardian helmet though, is that who were like,
I don't know, going to protect you.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I'm getting the helmet off.
Speaker 7 (12:16):
This reminds we had a we had a fight in
college in the sidelines, and I remember remember the John L.
Smith interview after the game when he was at Michigan State.
He was like hitting himself. That's he was hitting himself
in the face to demonstrate that he thought Charlie Weiss
got hit by friendly fire. Because this whole thing broke
out on the sidelines when when we were in East Lansing.
(12:38):
I'll never forget that, And it was like that was
the beginning to the end of John L.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Smith at Michigan State because it was so weird as
a coach. It was the head coach. Do you remember
this wasn't he back in the league league?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Could we roll this in? Was this?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Wait? Two thousand? This was two thousand and six.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Okay, because there was another meltdown against Ohio State as
well too.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, no, this was two thousand and six.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
This was like the beginning of the end, like the
start of him like melting down, because basically there was
a we were down. We were down like sixteen points
that they had in the fourth quarter, and I don't
know if it was like it was either the third
or fourth quarter it happened. I just remember like there
was something that happened in the sidelines. Someone thought coach
Weiss got hit, a guy started going nuts, and then
(13:27):
next thing you know, we come roaring back and get
the win.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
And then after the game, all John L.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
Smith was talking about is how that like it was
friendly fire. It wasn't even it wasn't even one of
their players.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
He smacked himself pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Like that was like that was an all time you
know viral clip back then.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, well, hey, listen, we're gonna have the regular season
coming up soon, and everybody's gonna be all right. I
didn't know that. I didn't know you and Ross Tucker
had beef though. I like Ross Tucker, like Ross too.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah. I just saw Ross and Avalon not too long ago.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
You guys get along. Yeah, okay, did he ever get
his helmet back?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yeah? I gave it back. I gave it back.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
You did that work?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Though.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I did use it in the clinch little dirty boxing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I used it.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, I used it, not like how your boy in
Cleveland did it, but I definitely.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Used it fair enough.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It is tooke.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I went and facing him and swung it like a
baseball bat and tried to take his life or anything else.
I was walking off, and I was actually the one
that was under attack, you know, So we're clear on that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
It is two pros and a Cup of Joe. Here
on Fox Sports Radio, it's LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with you. You can listen to the show on the
iHeartRadio app. All right, so coming up next, an awkward
situation takes another turn in the NFL, and we'll tell
you why right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am pacif
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Speaker 4 (15:04):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. By the way,
coming up a little over twenty minutes from now, in
honor of Iowa and Iowa State, we're going to do
some over unders on a preseason football game coming up
later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Although we may pick some overs in this case, right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Yeah, we're not going to peticainst ourselves. No, we would
want not that.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I'm saying, Mike.
Speaker 7 (15:26):
If you're an Iowa fan or even player, you probably
picked a lot unders.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Also, you got it. You don't want to piss off
Iowa fans. As you've learned earlier today on the show.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
You know, Iowa dump you.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, you don't want to dump you for real, you
will get dumped. That will happen. So we were expecting
to catch up with Albert Breer here, senior NFL reporter
at the NFL at the MMQB. But Albert is traveling.
He's got some issues. That's par for the course. So
we're going to hopefully connect with Albert at some point
during the course of this show. One of the things
(16:00):
I did want to ask Albert is it feels like
the Jonathan Taylor situation just continues to get more awkward.
This time he's gone from training camp again. It's a
personal matter. It's apparently an excused absence.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
It has nothing to do, reportedly with his unhappiness about
the contract status or the fact that Jim Orsay reference
death and that nobody would miss him if he wasn't
in the NFL anymore. So it's got nothing to do
with that, apparently. But it just feels like another awkward
turn in an off season for seemingly is a really
good dude who just finds himself in this really kind
(16:37):
of no man's land spot with the Indianapolis Colts as
they get ready for the season coming up in a
couple of weeks.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
Yeah, so it feels like the Colts have everything set
but that situation, and usually, as any team, you'd like
to have all business done wrapped up before the season
starts for all parties involved. Now, Jontha Taylor's still in
the pub, so in regards to his presence one way
or another, it doesn't really matter until they take him
(17:05):
off the pub.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Right, Yeah, and then they can then they would be
able to move on for if they see fit.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Well, I mean, he would have to want to come
back and play, not hold out and play for what
he's scheduled to make this year. But that's that's kind
of where we're at is. You know, he he doesn't
really have any recourse. We've talked about this at length
this offseason. You know, it's it's unfortunate that the running
back market is the way it is. You know, they've
(17:32):
got depth there. They've got Zach Moss, they drafted Evan
Hole this year. They just signed Kenyon Drake as well,
another veteran running back who's very capable.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
You announced who your starter is going to be.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
It's now just a matter of is Jonathan Taylor want
to come back, finish this thing out, and go into
potentially pressing the Colts to let you go into free
agency or or put the franchise tag on you. It's
it's not a great spot to be in. But if
you look across the league at other running backs in
similar spots, I think they all were disappointed with what
they ended up taking. You know, Sakwad Barkley comes back,
(18:05):
takes the non exclusive franchise tag, number, gets a little
tweaked to it to help out you know, Josh Jacobs,
everything's been quiet on that front. Yeah, and then you've
got Dalvin Cook, who probably took less than he wanted
to take, and Zeke Elliott same thing, probably a lot
less than he wanted to take. But that's the reality
of it for veteran running backs in this league, even
(18:25):
guys who've proved themselves and have at one point, especially
in the case of Jonathan Taylor, been at the top
of the league. So there's really nothing else you can
do at this point. But as far as his absence
and all that, none of that really matters until until
they take him off the PUP.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
To me, and I think right now Zach moss Is
is questionable, which I mean that doesn't matter if you're
listed as on the injury report right now.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
There's time.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Didn't he break his arm, that Zach Moss broke his
forearm or something like that. Maybe I'm crossing the streams
with somebody else. If we got that wrong, I will
take that out of the.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Podcast as well. All I say is that's the problem. Yeh.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
What I'll say here is is that with Dion Jackson
or Zach Moss, like, they're not Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
And when when we when we look.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
At these these type of topics and how they're going
to play out, we'll find out if what what they're
thinking as as we move forward, you know, into the seasons,
if they move forward without Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So I mean maybe Albert Breer has the answers for
all this. Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. He's
navigating the tricky deal that is traveling across the US
to try and get to certain places to cover NFL
games and cover NFL training camps. Albert, how's it going.
How you feeling on a Thursday morning?
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Well, the bad news is I'm still on a plane
right now. The good news is I might have time
because this is the newer airport that I'm at, so
I could be in the charmac for a while.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Okay, well, that's always fun. We were talking about just
how awkward the situation is with Jonathan Taylor and the Colts.
Do you think that this has gotten to the personal
portion of things to where it's maybe less about money
as much as it is about the comments Jim Mersey made,
And either Jim Mersey is going to have a conversation
(20:20):
with Jonathan Taylor and try and make things right, or
maybe they need to move on.
Speaker 9 (20:25):
I mean, I think like that Morris is out of
the stable and I'm running full speed now. As far
as it's becoming personal, I think it's been personal for
a little while now.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
And you know, I just sort of look at.
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Like how the Giants handled their situation with Saquon, and
you know, they didn't have to give him the sweetener,
but you know, like I think they had sensed that
that one was getting a little personal and they felt
like they had to give him an all his fall
branch and just show him what he meant to the team.
And I think that's part of it with Jonathan Taylor too.
(20:59):
You know, I mean, look like maybe you don't want
to extend and based on the way the injury went
last year and everything else, I personally think like it
wouldn't be a bad investment based on what he's done
for you and based on you know, how important I
think he's going to be to your young quarterback. But
even if you don't want to extend him, there are
different ways to do this, you know, And you know,
(21:20):
I just think this is one of the reasons why
you're responsible to your salary cap and they have been
is so you know, you do have the leeway to
do something like this night. You know, I personally think
just based on how respected he is as a player,
he's a captain, all that different stuff. Like I don't
I don't know what the downside would be to saying, Okay,
(21:40):
well maybe we we can't find common ground right now
on an extension, but like if we give you a
couple of incentives on your contract here where you know,
if you hit certain markers, you produce like you produce
in the past, you come in and you're a good soldier,
we'll resolve to talk again when the season is over.
I just I don't know, guys, I don't know what
the downside is that, you know, and I can understand
(22:02):
sometimes teams don't want to, you know, step precedent when
it comes to you know, players, you know, staging hold
ends or whatever and rewarding them. But this is one
of the most respected guys in your locker room, so
you know, I think you can make an exception for
a guy like that.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean I love the thought and idea behind it.
Speaker 7 (22:19):
I just think teams, if the player goes and plays
and he gets hurt the season, are they really going
to honor whatever was discussed or talked about.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I mean typically, you know they're going to come back and.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
Say, yeah, well that was before you had another season,
you know, ending injury where you missed six games or seven.
Speaker 10 (22:34):
Games that position.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
I mean again, the the you know, the laws of
supply and demand are not kind to the running back
position and how it affects the economics of it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
I'm more curious. Are you on the plane right now, Albert?
Speaker 10 (22:49):
Yeah I am, But we we just landed.
Speaker 7 (22:52):
Okay, But how in the world is no, you can't
hear anyone around you, and there's no like announcement being made.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Nobody to be quiet. Yeah, like, did you tell everyone
around you to be quiet? How's this working out?
Speaker 9 (23:03):
This is like, this is actually not bad right now.
I think it's probably an early morning flight. I'm not
talking that loud and uh or at least I'm trying
not to.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I'm like, naturally, are you sitting next to someone? No?
Speaker 9 (23:15):
No, no, no, it's like it's a it's a it was
a spiky bos New York.
Speaker 10 (23:18):
It's like it's a shuttle.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
I wish it was private. It's a shuttle. So I'm
in like one of those single roads and going I
need to know one's sitting there.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
Hey, how was the Logan terminal bathroom?
Speaker 9 (23:30):
You guys like that? I would give it. I would
give it maybe like a solid D minus.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yeah. So so basically, you, you know, do your business
and then you have to review how the bathroom was
at the airport.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
Yeah, they've got a lot of those now, They've got
that in LA. It's either like a smiley face or.
Speaker 9 (23:51):
Or the red mad face of the brown right.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:54):
Yeah, it's a bad experience.
Speaker 9 (23:56):
Today I used the luxury box and uh yeah I
had a good experience.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
Yeah, sorry, I was just more curious about your your
airline travelers. I think most people who travel on airlines,
it's like, how is it so quiet and you're actually
on a plane, Like no one's giving enough buy it
from the captain.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
I think, you know what's weird.
Speaker 9 (24:14):
What's weird is I think my phone is actually holding
up too, which is always the case, you know, as
you guys know. So I thought that I thought maybe
like throwing the ranch of being on an airplane might
like make it even worse.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
Maybe maybe maybe it's where I.
Speaker 9 (24:27):
Needed all my calls to you guys.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Sounds great, Hey.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
Hey Albert, I wanted to ask you about a personal
team of mine, my childhood team, the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
There.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
You know, it sounds like there's a lot of excitement
starting to kind of build up in Pittsburgh. A lot
of people believe that this could be a breakout year
for for Picket.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Pickens is amazing.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
The receiving cores they have is you know, they they
got some guys on that that deal as usual. Have
you have you gotten any kind of feedback on on
what that you know, what Picket is looking like and
how that may play out for this season.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Yeah, I mean I think, I mean, obviously there you go,
there's your note final.
Speaker 10 (25:14):
Yeah, I knew what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
I knew it's gonna happen at some point.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I mean, yeah, you look at the way they finished
last year, get over five hundred at the end of
the year, and for Picket to kind of catch fire
at the end of the year there, and what they've
done around him now and in drafting off tackle in
the first round and Broderick Jones, and you know, the
question with George Pickens was never talent, you know what
I mean, Like he was always seen as sort of
(25:42):
a high first round type of talent. It was just everything,
you know, as far as approach and football makeup and
all that that those were the questions with him.
Speaker 10 (25:52):
And you know.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
I think if you look at Mike Commins history and
his ability to assimilate different types of personalities into the
pro Graham leveyon Belly, Antonio Brown, you know, like they
were They've always been able to handle guys like that,
you know, And so it looks to me like if
you if you see where they finished the year last year, like, yeah,
this should be a team that is very optimistic about
(26:16):
where they were coming out of last year. And where
they are going into this year. You know, the question,
of course is going to be the division.
Speaker 10 (26:23):
And if you look at the division, you know, the Bengals.
Speaker 9 (26:26):
Have every right to believe that they'll be right in.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
The mix for the super Bowl. Again.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
The Ravens had you know, injuries last year, obviously to
the quarterback. Lamar is fully on board again with new
contract now, and Cleveland should be better, you know, based
on how sideways last year was, they should come.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Out of that.
Speaker 9 (26:42):
And you know, the hopes should be high there that
they're going to get to de Shaun Watson three or
four years ago. So you know, that's really the question
is like who finishes last of that division?
Speaker 10 (26:51):
Who makes the playoffs? Who doesn't? You know?
Speaker 9 (26:53):
And is there a chance they cannibalize each other? I
think that those are the real questions here right I
certainly think there's a reason for reason to believe that
Pittsburgh's going to be right there in the mix.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
If you had to, if you had to lay a
bett Albert, which are the four teams would you pick?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I mean, I think.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
Based on over unders, the Pittsburgh stillers have the lowest
over under in the division.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
I believe.
Speaker 10 (27:14):
To finish last.
Speaker 9 (27:15):
I mean, I think the Browns probably have the most variables,
you know, where what what does the Shawn look like,
What does that offensive line look like? How do Wills,
Wills and contemplay, the tackle positions, what happens the receiver?
You know, their defense should be pretty good, but they
got a new coordinator, so you know, how does the
(27:36):
Jim Schwartz things play out. I would say, of like
the four teams in the division, like I think Pittsburgh steady,
Like I don't think that they're going to be I
don't think they're going to be a thirteen win team,
but you could see them like anywhere from like eight
to eleven wins, right Whereas like Cleveland, it's like easy
to see sort of either scenario where it plays out
(27:58):
where they win the division vision or they're a five one.
Speaker 10 (28:01):
Team, you know.
Speaker 9 (28:02):
And so I would say I would say Cleveland's probably
got the biggest variable and.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
Of any team in the division.
Speaker 9 (28:09):
I think it's a really good roster, but there's just
lots of things that play there that could go one.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Way or another.
Speaker 7 (28:15):
It is part of that Deshaun Watson and you know,
I know his quarterback towel and everything else that goes.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Along with that.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
We'd say it again, Brady Starry.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Yeah, as part of that, just Deshaun Watson and the
inconsistent play and potential off the field, concerned about his quarterback,
Towell and what may happen with that.
Speaker 9 (28:34):
I lost the very end of your.
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Quarterback on the quarterback towel like that the towels.
Speaker 9 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I think I'll leave
that one alone.
Speaker 10 (28:48):
But I think that Shawn is like, I do you
think I do. I do think like.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
That, Like they're gonna have a better They're gonna have
a better handle on how to deploy him this year. Like,
I do think that that part of it it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Got You've got a lot of handles on it, don't
They a lot of deploying too.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Yeah, you guys want to continue to Shawn Watson conversation here.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
We talked about earlier. It's kind of going to be
around for a while, isn't it. I mean it's not
going away like forever.
Speaker 10 (29:20):
No, No, it's not. It's not. I will say that
I do think like coming out of.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Like the circus is probably the wrong term, but like
everything that happened last year, and you know, like having
to go through. Okay, Like here's Deshawn's last day before
the suspension. Here's d Kobe Rissett's last start, Here's Dashawn's
first starting. Now the Shawn is assimilating himself back into
the offense, everybody's suggesting, like everything they dealt with last year,
(29:48):
I mean, and everything they went to and everything they
gave to give it to get him. I mean, there's
a lot of pressure on a lot of people in
that building now for him to deliver, you know, and
you know, from ownership on, like they they gave up
what they gave up based on the Shawn getting back
to the level of play he you know, he was
the level he was at in twenty nineteen and twenty twenty,
(30:12):
and you know, I think a lot of people were
willing to look at and say, okay, like twenty two
is a little bit of a mulligan year because you
knew you were going to be dealing with some things,
you know, with the league.
Speaker 10 (30:22):
And everything else.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
You know, But now we're out of that, and so
you know, I think there's you know, certainly a lot
of people in that building who have a lot riding
on how de Sean play this year.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
It's Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. You
can get him on Twitter at Albert Brier always kind
enough to join us here on a Thursday morning, even
when he's got to review a bathroom and its performance
and then call us from a plane as he's sitting
on a tarmat. Yeah, we appreciated Albert, like like I.
Speaker 9 (30:50):
Like I said, I'll give the I'll give the terminal
a bath from the Logan Airport B minus which I think,
which which which I which I think for like an
airport bathroom isn't bath right?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I bet? Yeah, sure it's above average? Real quick? Are
you one of the types of guys.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
As soon as you pull up to the gate and
the fastened seatbelt sign goes off, you pop up right away?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Or you that guy?
Speaker 10 (31:12):
No?
Speaker 9 (31:13):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm I'm annoyed. I'm annoyed
by that guy. I've I've I think there was probably
a point when I was younger, when I first started
traveling a lot, where maybe I was that guy. I'm
way too much of a grizzled bet to do that now, though,
I'm annoyed by those people as much as you.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Are, pro pro love.
Speaker 7 (31:31):
Make sure to help me with some you know, some
old ladies that could be you know, needing their their
luggage brought down though, make sure you.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Help them out. Now, I'm gonna jump up and steer
at you on the faces when I'm on the fight
with y'all.
Speaker 9 (31:41):
Good, Albert, that's that's pretty Quinn, man of the people.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, that's right, of the.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
People, Albert. We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
Continue to travel safe and we always love hanging out
with you out of Thursday morning.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thanks.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Thanks, So there is Alba Brier joining us here on
Fox boards.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
So do you guys want to can tindue to have
the tal Watson conversation?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
I think he wanted to as well too, but he's
not used to that because most shows steer away from
that conversation. Not this one. We go straight into traffic. Yeah,
we don't mind it at all.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
Well, he also wasn't here for the first portion of
our show where it was brought up in regards to
the fight that took place.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
That's very true.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
That is true, all right. So it is two pros
and a cup of joe here. So let's catch up
now without with excuse me, not Albert Breer.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Good God with.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Edmund Garcia for all the latest from around the world
of sports. Sorry, Eddie, it's all right, My apologies.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It's all right.
Speaker 8 (32:35):
I'm just picturing uh, Deshaun Watson like bouncing his towel
off of walls.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Right, like catching it, but like Ninja stars, you know, yeah,
like one of those Captain America shield and one man's
towels another man's waiters trade.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You do this all day.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
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(33:11):
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(33:54):
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Speaker 3 (35:52):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I have been loading you you aligning low life gambling January.
It's over under all, right, lead to lap. What do
we got in this preseason game? All right?
Speaker 12 (36:03):
We got Browns at Eagles in the over under is
set at thirty eight and a half m I take
the over.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
I'm more of a defensive guy, which I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Take the under. I'm also gonna take the under.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I mean it's kind of are we throwing shade at DTR.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Now you can play great. He's the only one though.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
He seems like he's been pretty impressive in camp so
far in the pre seasons.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
He's got all the tools, man, and he'd be the
perfect backup to Watson. And I want to say it
backup because they're pot committed to Watson.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
They paid him all that money.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, what else we got?
Speaker 12 (36:42):
Well, speaking of DTR, number of passing touchdowns for Dorian
Thompson Robinson at a hat over, I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 7 (36:52):
I'll take the over as well, although that's a tough matchup.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
By the way, I think Josh Dobbs is not playing
in this game. Is that a bad sign for Josh Dobbs?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
And it's a lot of people to playing.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
I think they know what they have in Dobbs. I
think they'd rather get DTR the experience. I mean, they
did spend a draft pick on him, so you got
to figure out. And by the way, the third quarterback
designation's back, So even if DTR was the backup. They
could keep Dobbs on the roster. Then you know, he
wouldn't have to be acting necessarily on game day, you know,
(37:26):
so they could activate him if needed.
Speaker 4 (37:27):
Let mean, what about Kellen Mond. You know he's still there.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
He could be in a tough spot.
Speaker 12 (37:32):
Okay, all right, what do we got lead on to
the other side. Number of rushing yards for Marcus Mariotain
this game?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Nine and a half over. I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
God, that feels pretty low.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
It's always like that, though.
Speaker 7 (37:48):
It's one of the best bets you can make in
a Super Bowl. On let me think the overrun quarterback
rushing yards.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
All right, let me tell you why Brady loves his
bet because he hit it on Stetson Bennett on the
first play for Georgia or something like that in the
National Championship game, and it was the lock of the night.
Speaker 7 (38:04):
And he was hold on, hold on, hold on. Different
rules in college football and in the NFL. If you
get sacked in college, it comes off of.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Your rushing total. A lot of people out there aren't
aware of that.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
That is that true?
Speaker 10 (38:18):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And then if you get the sack yards come off
your passing yards. In the NFL.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Huh.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
So it's a difference when you look at the prop
bet for rushing yards. So that was a little more
risking even though he hit the over right away.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
They came off for passing yards. Now that you're saying it,
I thought it came off of your rushing yards. Now
they're doing college on the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That sucks.
Speaker 12 (38:38):
I'll take the under on this, all right, Fellas. In
the broadcast, first thing that you see, will it be
the Rocky Statue, the Liberty Bell or Geno's slash Pats either.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Liberty Bell?
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Yeah, because I feel like if they showed Genoa.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
At or none of the above, like there has to
be a none of the above above. Yeah, he loves it.
It's the none of the above.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I feel like, no, none of the above. I feel
like it's going to be the Rocky statue, just because
I don't know that they'd want to fight well, I
don't know that they'd want to give Geno's or Pats
publicity for free, especially with how much people pay for
sponsorship in some of these broadcasts.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
So I feel like you want them to give slices
to love the publicity.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
You throw a little love at the Rocky statue.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You know, just I don't think they're going to show
any of it.
Speaker 10 (39:32):
Prus.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean, you know, the Browns are partaking and there's
like a long lineage of great Ohio fighters. You know,
a lot of though, Kelly Padlock, Aaron Pryor.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
You know, Adrian always upset with Rocky, like she always
wanted Rocky to stop fighting.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
You married a fighter.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
I mean she makes ten cents an hour in a
pet shop.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
I mean he needed to fight.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
What do you expect?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
You know what I mean? Geez, come on Adrian to
support your guy.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
I know, no, none of the above, Levari picked one.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
No going on none of the above. I mean, if
I have to pick one, I'm going Liberty bail. But
it's it's none of the above.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I mean, he is the over unders king, so he
can kind of do what he wants.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Thank you. True, that's true, That's true. He basically made
this game. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (40:19):
Finally, guys, which team is penalized more Eagles or Browns.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Based on how chippy practices have been. I'm gonna say
the Eagles. I think I think they've been bullying him
a little bit.
Speaker 7 (40:31):
I'm gonna say the Browns only because that defensive pass
rush could get some holdings false starts.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
That's what he thinks.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
All right, that's over UNDERSATR.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
How about that? How about that?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Couple of clock guys here?
Speaker 2 (40:47):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
All about the clock?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
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