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tire buying should be. So apparently we've got a little
bit more of an understanding on why the PAC twelve
turned into the diaper fire of college football. Brett McMurphy,
who covers college football for the Action Network, he sent
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out a tweet Brady McCullough, who's an LA Times reporter
covering the PAC twelve and just the demise of the
PAC twelve and had this to say. George Klovkoff, who's
the PAC twelve commissioner, tried blocking UCLA's move to the
Big ten with cal regents. Then in October twenty twenty two,
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ESPN offered PAC twelve thirty million dollars of school, but
a PAC twelve president quote worked with a professor on
his campus who estimated the school's market value was fifty
million dollars. So the PAC twelve based on this professor's advice.
As for fifty million dollars of school, an ESPN said,
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now we're going to pass. So apparently that's how this
thing was was part of the reason why this thing
fell apart because there was a professor on campus who
kind of understood the value of these teams as opposed
to maybe some other people involved.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So yeah, well what did they say, those those that
can't do teach?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
I mean, yeah, apparently no.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I know, I'm kidding, I'm kidding and all in all seriousness, though,
this is an example of why oftentimes, and this is
why like not to get into a tough discussion.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
About like where our society is.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
But unfortunately we've gotten to a point where we allow
philosophies and ideologies that are a lot of times being
taught in school to then dictate to all the people
that are listening right now, that are actually out there working,
that are actually doing the job, that are actually like
impacting the economy. Right, we allow this like think tank
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or academia to try to portray like, oh, well, this
is how things should be in the real world. No, Like,
a lot of the people who are in logistics, who
are in trucking right now are listening to us. They
see what happens in the economy before anyone else. They're
the ones taken and shipping different things out. They know
what it costs, they know how much you know, gas
prices going up. They understand, you know, how much. You know,
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how much they're needed, how little they're needed, whatever the
case may be. That they see all of that, not
some guy in an ivory tower sitting in a classroom
who's talking about what he thinks.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Or what he sees from afar.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
And unfortunately, that's where we've gotten to is we had
such poor leadership in the PAC twelve that we relied
on someone who is so out of touch with figuring
out what like again, and this is like Zillo, like Zillo,
for example, your house says it's worth whatever Zillo says, right,
whatever they're algorithm them says, Okay, you know what your
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house is actually worth. It's actually worth when you put
on the market what someone's willing to pay you for it.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's the actual market value.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
No different than right now when we talk about running
backs in the NFL, and however.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So well, this guy's ros for this many yards, he's
caught this many passes.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, okay, well, is any team willing to sign him
to a deal that compensates him what he thinks he
should make. No, they're willing to pay him what they're
willing to pay him. That's his market value. And so
because the leadership in the Pac twelve was so poor
and instead relied on someone in academia to come up
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with whatever that number they think they're worth, someone who
probably has no idea how what's happening in the broadcast
cable industry to come up with numbers or con coct
some plan it actually, instead of them getting the jump
on the contract that, by the way.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The Big twelve ended up accepting.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Right, Brett, your as the commissioner accepted that thirty million
dollar a year deal, and now look who's standing and
look who's not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So to me, it's a combination of poor leadership and.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Relying on not on people who are actually and consulting
with people who are actually in the TV broadcast industry,
and instead rely on academia. Like again, I'm not trying
to get on a soapbox and go on some sort
of philosophical you know, spiel here. But there's a lot
of people out there listening who are probably thinking themselves like, yeah,
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like we have we're better in touch with what's going
on in the real world than a lot of people
who sit in a classroom and lecture to kids, especially
at the college level, and are telling them about It's like.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No unless you're applying the real world experience.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Like it's all just a thought, it's all just your opinion,
it's not actually what's happening out there in the real world.
And that was unfortunately the demise of the PAC twelve
at least part of it.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Jeez, that's a tough one.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I mean, I can understand why you would try to
trust somebody who's educated on a higher level to get
perspective or to give you, you know, advice, consultation on it.
I just find it odd when something isn't going the
way it's supposed to necessarily go, it always goes away
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from the people who have always made the decisions to
someone else. It's almost like scapegoating. It's like it didn't work,
so we can blame it on this professor, Like we're
not going to blame it on you know, the the
PAC twelve officials or anything like that. We're going to
blame it on a professor that really nobody outside of
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maybe his you know, people in his class and or
who does his office hours, would would even remotely care.
I just think it's interesting how it's it's always kind
of a pivot, you know, from being bold and saying
here's what we're doing, and this is how we're moving to.
This is the reasoning as to why it didn't it
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didn't work. It just seems it seems outlandish to me.
It also seems it also seems like there's more here,
Like I think if there were deeper digging into the
scenarios that were on the table and what was playing
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out and who were the major players in it. You know,
I think you asked the question how much was how
much were they making when that offer came to the table,
Like that is that a is that a complete.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Thirty million more for a per team? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Were they already making a sum of money that would
have said the difference was five million or two point
five million?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
I would be curious because if you got.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
An offer for a third million, if you got an
offer for twenty million, and you're not bringing in that
twenty million at the moment in time that that offer
came down the pipe, why would you go up twenty
million dollars more?
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Like twenty million is a big there's a big gap there,
like between what you were told they'd be giving you
and what you think you're worth.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
So it's almost like you want it. It's like you
want it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
If if this is true, it's like you almost want
it to sabotage the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
A second, I don't know of it.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
If it's they wanted to sabotage the opportunity, I just
think again, it speaks to the lack of structure that
the PAC twelve had in being able to determine its
own market value. Like I understand that because of the
structure of the Pack twelve network and the Pact tworl
of confidence that it's heavily relied on the commissioner and
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obviously the university presidents. But how you internally don't have
someone who's responsible for saying this is what's happening in
the TV industry, in sports, live sports, this is what's happening.
We are unfortunately not able to be a part of
what has now become the biggest window, and that's the
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noon window. Whether people know that or not, that is
now the largest viewing window on Saturdays in college football.
Since college football is driving all of this, it's not primetime.
Primetime actually had been dwindling, and in fact, before primetime it.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Was the three thirty window usually that CBS has held.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Yeah, and so since Fox has taken on this big
noon kickoff, big noon Saturday, it's now elevated the noon
game to surpass what has been the three thirty window.
But those are the two biggest windows, and so on
the West Coast, it ends up being somewhat of an
afterthought because you tried to excel in thinking that primetime
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was still a big thing in college football on Saturdays,
and it's not. And you could have seen that coming
if you ever follow the numbers on Sundays, because primetime
it was at one point the most watched Sunday night football,
the most watch and then you start to realize that
the biggest game in the four pm window started to
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take over a lot of those ratings. So you could
have seen all of this coming, but instead you didn't
have anyone internally that could help you figure that out.
And instead of relying on people and consulting with people
who are in the industry who are actually out there
in the field working the job, who have real world experience,
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you relied on someone who concocted some formula or ALGORTHORITHM
to spit out what you thought each school was worth,
and you overshot it. So by by so much. You
made it such an easy decision for the Big twelve
to say, we know where this is going, and we
would rather have a deal in place with two networks
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that will allow us to have national exposure and give.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Us thirty million per year that will be towards the
end of the deal.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Close to fifty million, while you guys are trying to
now sit on your hands and have nothing to go,
nowhere to go, and the schools are just looking for
safe harbor. I just again, I keep going back to there.
There's a faction of people in this country right now
who are probably like in the real world, saying, like
a lot of what's being spewed is it's not real.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's not what's actually happening in the world today.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
And this is an example of that in the Pac twelve,
with the lack of leadership and lack of internal structure.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
You want to know how big the noon kickoff window is.
College football Hall of famers pick that window to give
Iowa fans stiff arms on national televisions. They pick that window.
They don't pick the late night window. They're not doing that,
you know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And if you're making a statement, you pick that noon
window damn right. Okay, you pick pick new kick in
Americans and guys. Definitely stiffed arm.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Robstone taking time away from his busy soccer schedule to
take part in that. That's fine.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah yeah, big Time.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Hit her with the stiff stiff arm too. I mean
it was surprised to everyone. Yeah, I was proud of myself.
I pulled it off on national television.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Definitely did.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
It was smooth. That was that was the the old
running back skills that came out.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Her face was classic. It was classic. I think my
face was classic because it was. It was just kind.
You were even surprised, you know, Yeah, I was. I was.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
I was surprised that I was able to pull it
off in a fashion where it wasn't you know, it
wasn't an aggressive forearm or a stiff arm.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
It wasn't. Uh a forum would have been aggressive.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It just it landed the right one.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
The hard thing is is your definition of aggressive, and
like anyone else's, is probably different.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Ye see, but I got kids around a long time. Yeah,
but you better be rough on your kids. I would be.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
You know, I got three girls. I'm I'm I got
a lot of finesse.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Hey, I got three girls too. I put my oldest
at a headlock this morning. I was like, hey, now
I don't start listening to mom.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't do that. I got a toughen her up.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
There, because she's our first so she's like sensitive and
she's like so sweet, and so I'm like, all right,
we gotta we got to toughen this one up.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
A little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
So we went. We went driving yesterday and it was
an experience and and I melted down. I had to
slap my face. John L.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Williams moment in the car and.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Like you got you got sentimental emotional about it, or
you were like I thought you were.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Gonna die irate. I thought I was going die twice. Yeah,
but she really is a good driver. I just I'm
hard on her. I'm hard on me.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Like the sound of what it sounds like when she's
going through an intersection or emerging on the highway.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Uh, it's it's kind of like I was. First of all,
I'm not feeling well. I'm under the weather.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
So when I started screaming the way I was, I
didn't even realize I was screaming as loud and as
hard as I was.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Like we were supposed to can you just give us
a depression? All right? So we were supposed to go
straight for an exit.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
So were we were supposed to go straight and if
you didn't go straight, you were going to hit two
different you know, highways. The byways were going to take
you to a different highway. So I go, okay, get
over and keep straight. So she gets over and I'm like,
all right, keep straight, keep straight, you know, and then
she starts putting her turn signal on and I'm like,
keep straight, keep straight, keep straight straight, and.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
She turned right.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
I mean there's a lot going on.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I said, straight as straight, Like what when is when
is going to your right or to your left?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Straight? Straight is the one that's in the middle.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
So anyway, I felt really really horrible. She's she like,
you know, lay my bugs. She's she's she's going to
be the CEO for everything that I build at some
point in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Like she's like.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
Super like she's she's super sharp, like super sharp. She's
the one that's super responsible make sure everything is in order,
like we were talking about with the PAC twelve. She's
our commissioner of the house. And I felt really bad, man,
So you know, I gave her a big hug. I
hugged her for about five ten minutes. When she came
back in the door, she didn't have a good chair
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practice because of it. I felt really bad. I never
I told her I'll never.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Handled it that way.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Maybe she got driving lessons from one of those hippie
professors in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Maybe well she did.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
She probably he probably sat in the classroom and sold
her philosophically.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
This is what your mind set should be. And your
father shouldn't have said anything of this sort.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
And really, if someone's sitting at a green lights and
you're sitting behind them, it's not our view that you
should honk at them. And please we forbid you to
ever use the middle finger in the event, which, by
the way, the last time the story you told about
the middle finger afar was classic. What do you mean
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when you were like you felt like you had to
defend one of your family members, so you had to
flick them off, But really you were a full agreement
with the guy who.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Was fucking you off.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I was behind a student driver.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I put it out there too.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
I just left it up there, and it was just
up there because I thought him though I knew his
middle finger was going to be up because my middle
finger would have been up if I was them.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, so yeah, you're absolutely Have.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
You seen have you seen how bad student drivers are?
Have you been behind one recently? They're getting worse, I
swear to god. I don't know if people are taking
too many ubers or what they're doing, but they're getting worse.
Like if you see there was a student driver, I
stopped and pulled up slowly to the side of it
because I thought they were having a seizure.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I can't running bikes as much. Is this like a
correlation of riding.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I don't see as many.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Kids running bikes, And I feel like it kind of
starts where understanding, like you got to get off the road,
you gotta you know, like you kind of understand how
to naviate a little bit when you're riding bikes when
you're young, and then you get into a car and
you have like some basic understanding of how this is
supposed to work.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
But I don't see as many kids riding bikes anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
They ride motorized bikes. They don't pedal, no more e bikes.
Everything is motorized and easy, and then I realized they're
actually pretty easy. I used a scooter, one of those,
like you said, one of those e scooters or whatever.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
You at super Bowl used one.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
No, it was Lee.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
It was Lee. So that was Lee. Yep, that was
Lee from the hotel.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yes, I did.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
They're actually pretty fun to ride. Yeah. I thought it
was dangerous. I thought I bust my ass, and I
did it. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
The problem is where Lee was driving his scooter in Phoenix.
That was not the nicest part of town that we
were staying in, so there was some questionable human beings around.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He actually could have been the hoa constrictor out there too.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, that's that is true. There was a CBS up
the road from our hotel where I went to get water,
And is.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
That when I saw you walking like a day walker? No?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
No, that was another day because the CBS was the
other direction. Because I learned real quick, all right, that's
the last CBS I'm going doing that direction, So I
just stayed on the other side of the street. So yeah,
when you saw me, I had already learned.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I never left the hotel. I was there right on
my balcony.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
You had your buddy at the bar.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I had my buddy in my hand.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Hey, friend, it is two friends, two friends and a
cup of Joe here on Fox Sports.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Pros and a cup of Joe with food at the bar.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Friend, it's a Lebar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
The eight there like, yeah, I guess some nerve he
wasn't a fire.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I think he got burger them burgers were the flame.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I heard Ireland's got a good burgers too, or.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
What's That's just what I heard? Just the fun facts here.
That's just what I heard.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
We just can't At what point do you think we
can confirm it?
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Monday Thursday, it's going to be Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Monday, Monday, we can confirm it.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
It's going to be Monday because there's a Tuesday. No,
we fly out Tuesday, so we're still working because you're
meeting Monday.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
The meeting is Monday.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, so technically Tuesday because if you missed that meeting,
if something goes wrong.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I'm not going to miss it. It's like embassy. I'm
going to what happens. Though.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
If if what happens, I get things done. I'm a military.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I don't doubt it. I can say it.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
I always like to throw that possible one percent that
could happen. If that one percent happens, I won't be there.
I mean, I won't have the one percent would be
I don't have it thin. This is a one die,
all die scenario. You're not going when there's a.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Chance, Yeah you go, we go?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Yeah backdraft. Yeah. Well, I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
I did the best I could to get it expediteed.
I got on schedule, they told me when.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
To do it.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I'm doing it. That's all I can give, y'all. I'm
going to I'm going.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, Savar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
All right, So come it up next here from the
tiraq dot com studios. Apparently there's a team in the
NFL who wasn't projecting to be a great season for him,
but it might be worse than we actually expect. We'll
tell you who that is next.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 4 (20:56):
All right, speaking of bad music, two pros and a
cup of Joe here, Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you by the way, coming up, and
we'll call it. Less than twenty minutes from now, we're
gonna have another edition of You and You Out. And
from my understanding, I can already predict there's gonna be
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one person that will be in on a story and
two people that will be out. And if you've listened
to any portion of this show over the past couple
of months, probably hit the.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Ray.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Okay, Yeah, first of all, when when we do get
to that story, we should play that again on LeVar
for assuming that that's the direction that I was going.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, I already I think I already know where you
guys are going.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
That's really unfortunate dollars. Okay, all right, that's fair. All right,
So I'll give you euros if it comes to fruition.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
You are so poor, but get it, man, I am
going to get it, all right, it was I'm going
to Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I'm just this.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You don't want to know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, Okay, thanks Pop. All right, so apparently the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers. It does not seem to be going well
for Tampa Bay. Russell Gagey, wide receiver. He's going to
miss the entire season because of a knee injury he
suffered at practice against the Jets on Wednesday. Mike Evans,
by the way, said that that was the most training
(22:22):
camp fights that he had ever seen in the NFL
between the Bucks and the Jets. So maybe the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers knew that there were some cameras there and decided,
all right, so let's go ahead and let's spice things
up and start throwing down a little bit. But Mike
Evans was also asked about just sort of the difference
in styles between the two quarterbacks competing for the starting
(22:45):
job there. Although it feels like I think we already
know that Baker Mayfield is going to get the NOD
to open up the season, but Mike Evans was talking
about both him and Kyle Trask. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Their NFL quarterbacks. You know, at the end of the day,
I don't know about their styles. They both and they
both have big arms, They're both very mobile, so they're
similar in that reguard. Obviously they're a little different in size,
but they have a similar play style, really good NFL quarterbacks,
where we want to know who the start is going
to be, you know, soon, so we can just keep
you know, working and they can take control of the offense.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I thought Todd Bowles already announced that Baker was going
to get the start.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
I thought that was, uh, well one for the preseason game, right,
Baker starts one, Kyle Trast starts the other.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
But I thought there was a report that Baker was
going to be the guy.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, like that's what I thought as well too. So
apparently Mike Evans was not there for that, for that announcement,
which just leads to what could be a problem for
Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
What's the over under for total wins for the Buccaneers this.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Year, Let's go ahead. Last checked, it was six and
a half and right now, yes, it is six and
a half still on DraftKings.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Which I mean, they still have a good roster, right,
I mean, Mike Evans is obviously still though we just
heard from him. Chris Godwin's still there. Both those guys
copp for over a thousand yards, you know, losing Russell
Gage hurts. He didn't, you know, play the entire season
last year, but the previous two seasons he was a
nice compliment. I mean, he was over seven hundred yards receiving,
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he was impactful, and he's kind of like that downfield
threat too, adding to that group. So I just it's
hard to understand why this team is gonna drop off
a cliff purely because Tom Brady's not there anymore.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
I know if some people are like, dude, what are
you saying? It's Tom Brady? But you know that team
last year won the division with a losing.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Record, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
And it's not like we look at any of these
teams and have a ton of confidence or faith in
any one of the teams in the ANFC South. So
I mean, once you give them a fighting chance, if
Baker can play the way he did during his time
in Cleveland, if he is the guy and.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
With this roster around him, I mean, they're not that far.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I think the biggest issue they face is probably some
ot line issues. And it was also a team that
they're gonna whoever the quarterback is, if it's Baker, Mayfield
College Trask, they're gonna have to rely heavily on the
quarterback because they didn't really run the foot all much
last year.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I think it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
And I tend to agree with what you're saying in
terms of it's not a super strong division. They were
able to have a subpar season and still win their
their division. I think next My next question to that is, well,
what does that mean if all these teams are sub par?
(25:28):
And let's just say, for the sake of saying, it
kind of plays out similar to what it did last year,
where you have teams that are struggling to win games
and you know one of them wins the division by default.
If they were to win the division by default and
not do well in the playoffs, or if they were
to make the playoffs as a wildcard team or whatever,
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how are we viewing this team? I think we know,
I think we know how we view them in the
opposite direction, and I'm curure is this it for Todd
Bowles If they don't have a good year. I would
say it would most certainly mean the end if they
don't have a good year. So to me, they do
have pieces in play. Baker Mayfield, I mean, I feel
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like he's had his you know, his opportunity to have
enough reprieves where if he doesn't make this work, it's
never going to work. So with that being an element
in play, you got to believe he's tremendously motivated to
kind of do what he needs to do. I'm not
as down on Tampa I'm not as down on them,
(26:37):
but I'm just not I don't trust them to be
a great team, but I'm not down on them to
be a seller team either.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Now. I think there's one goal here for Tampa Bay,
and that's to get Mike Evans one thousand yards. Because
he's done it every year in his career. That should
be the goal. They're not making the playoffs, they're not
winning the division. Their run at being a super Bowl
contender is over. They were bad last year. Tom Brady's gone.
They're removing seats from the stadium now that Brady's no
longer there. I think the move is do whatever we
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can to try and get Mike Evans a thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
He come with you on that. I mean, he's just
got to stay healthy, right, Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
But they've got a really tough schedule. I think that's
part of it, and not maybe necessarily. We just talked
about the NSC South being kind of up for grabs,
but they have an early buy, which I always think
that's the worst. I mean, if you had to pick
between early and late, you'd rather have late. But they
have a bye week five, so it doesn't necessarily provide
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a ton of help for you. And usually because on
by weeks you're trying to identify, you know, you're good,
throw out the bad, you know, get healthy after hopefully
about eight or nine games, and then you can go
on the second half the season. When you have it
a week five, like you only got four games in,
sometimes you really haven't played enough football to get a
good feel for what you're doing well on either side
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of the ball at that point. So I'm never a
fan of that. Three different times they go back to
back weeks on the road, which is is pretty tough
in my opinion, at least, you know, I always think
like it's those those weeks and spans when you do that,
it's incredibly difficult. I mean, just to put into context, basically,
they play at home week seven, October twenty second. They
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only played two more times at home between then and
December twenty fourth, like six of eight games in that
span are on the road, and so like, I don't
care if you're the Kansas City Chiefs. That's a tough
stretch that schedule makers did not do the Tampa Bay
Bucks many favors. And then probably the last indictment, what
(28:41):
the NFL schedule makers think of the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Let's play a game of how many primetime games do
they have?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Oh? I got, I got an, I got a Okay,
let me let's see Tampa Bay under five hundred last year.
I'm gonna go twelve twelve prime time games?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yes, okay, they have two.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
They have two prime time games Monday Night Football Week three,
and then they've got a Thursday night game Week eight.
So and by the way, Monday Night they're playing the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Is that one of the I think.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
That Thursday Night at Buffalo, and I think that the.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Game against Philly isn't even the only Monday night game
that night.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That's the double header up.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, of course. So yeah, that's insuld to the Tampa
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Speaker 3 (32:32):
Two pros and a cup of show what even enough?
If they're in at please or hit there out all right?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Leave a lap? What do we got?
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Will Molestone Birthday from mister Robert Niro. That the eightieth birthday, Robert.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
It's a brand new dad, right, Yeah, by.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Still goes what's happened to the segment?
Speaker 4 (32:55):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 8 (32:56):
Talk?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
This is the way it's always gone, No, not forever.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You just started doing this like two weeks ago over
the summer because it wasn't as much news.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
You could be out on Robert J. Niro's birthday.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I'm not out on Robert de Niro's birth I'm not
out on anyone's birthday.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I'm happy for them. I wish them many more trips
around the sun.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I just didn't understand when you made this segment into
a birthday segment.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Started off birthday guy? What what is your Scott?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
What did you ask the homeless guy that you kicked
out of his of his home?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Was he scared me? Now? What is? What is? He
didn't count? What's your exactly?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
What's your favorite Robert DeNiro movie? What's your guys favorite
Robert Denero movie? You had to take one?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Casino Casino that quick? Yeah? I think I got some
good movies.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I think I like I think guy like Good Fellows
more than Casino For some reason, I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I don't give it who he's connected to him? Tell
him to take his feet off the table.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
Raging Bull taxi.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Driving Raging Bowl was a little intense.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Does you think this is a saw dust?
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (34:01):
What a throw?
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Hey? What about a bronx tail? It's a good movie.
But he wasn't the main dude.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Cape Fear.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Cape Fear was really good. Yeah, he played a really
good villain. Think what about Meet the Fockers.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
That's a really cool Brady Careful Okay, I did that for.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
The same.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I mean, you know what, you know what movie Robert
Denio was in?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Back Draft?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Oh that's right, still afraid to pull up your sleeve? Shadow?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
What about the Untouchables?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
Was he into the Attachables too?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah? He used in the Intuchables. Wow, you know it's
a low key.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And this is like a bad admission. But I used
to go buy those like previewed VHS tapes from Blockbuster,
And I remember I watched the entire analyze this series.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
I think there was like multiple Yeah, wow, interesting what.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Else we got?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Lead guys Taylor made is building a new luxury golf
resort with everything a golf fan might want.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
I just say it like that because Taylor.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
Made, Taylor Made, Taylor Made is building a new start
over here.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Taylor's like, who's Taylor not to be confused with Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
I got you right. I was thinking, Taylor mays, that's
what the USC guy.
Speaker 6 (35:18):
I'll start over here. Taylor Made is building a new
luxury golf resort next to PGA of America, h Q
and Frisco, Texas. It's going to be called The Bay's
Golf Experience in suites. It's four stories tall and each
suite includes a balcony with its own hitting bay. You
get custom club fitting. You could also get access to
professional golf instruction. It's got the largest TV screen in
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North Texas's.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Got someplace to go, and she goes to.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Another version by Quinny.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
It's just another version of top golf. Don't forget the
Cowboys game just could have been going hard all show.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I'm out, I'm out, I'm in, I'm in.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Rady you out on this?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I would go see at once, But again, the prime
attraction is the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
If I'm going to Dallas, all right.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Where is that in Arlington? Uh?
Speaker 6 (36:10):
Frisco, Texas?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Frisk Yeah, so out by their facility.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Where's where's the White House at where the Cowboys from
the nineties used to live?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
And I mean some would say it's still in d C.
Yeah right now, I just say, based on recent findings, I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Just that is true. God not true.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
We don't know how.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
We don't know how that got here. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Sorry, sorry, Lee didn't mean cowboys.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Didn't mean to crack so many cokes. I mean jokes
during the segment.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I'm sorry, Leeward Narrow in that movie.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
That's okay.
Speaker 6 (36:47):
Well, we've talked about preseason football. We got Browns and Eagles.
But before that, you could also watch the twenty twenty
three NBA TV schedule.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Release show on out day.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
This is the thing.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Apparently I didn't even realize because I need to because
I got to know who the Bobcats are playing in February.
Who gives a rip?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Is this more about just announce like who's playing on Christmas?
Like is it?
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I mean, we we we've talked about the set length,
but yes, basically watched like.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
The Christmas and we're like, okay, great, let's see you
playing Christmas Death.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
You know what it is? It's a how many games
are going to be dominated by the NFL on Christmas,
is what it is. That's all this is turned into.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
I'm out. I'm out.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
We got slam ball playoffs, you guys are.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
We also have the BMW Championship and at the Olympia
Fields North Course in Illinois, one of the most important
golf events in the VJ Tour.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Well, listen, I'm a member of Olympia Fields.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
These really yeah? So is that is that close to
where your family's from there in Illinois?
Speaker 4 (37:53):
From that not farm, not far from hop on the road.
There a little stretch of road you'll get yourself.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
To mom Hope of wider.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
That's a great point. And by the way, if you're
interested in if you're interested in taking a train from
Chicago to Gailsburg, two hour train ride drops right up
there in Gaylsburg, near Knox County. But again we're just
talking Midwest stuff here.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Ye Knox County.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Yeah, and fellas, we got strays coming out that Will
Ferrell and Jamie Foxx movie voicing a bunch of dogs
are rated. You guys enter out on this.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Oh, it's no for me, Doug. Wait, it's a it's
a cartoon movie.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
No, they do like kind of dubbed like the dogs
moving their mounds.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Artist. I think I'm an I'm I'm a big Will
Ferrell fan.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
I am too, am Jamie FOXX and Jamie Fox but
I'm still out.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Okay, Jamie Fox's best role is the DJ in the
players Club, and I don't want to hear anything else
from anybody of us.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh that's actually not a bad call. That was an
underrated move, but do see about.
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