August 29, 2023 • 39 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox, the guys react to Jim Harbaugh’s comments regarding NCAA revenue share. Although there is a ton of hypocrisy in Harbaugh’s comments, LaVar believes that it’s refreshing to see a prominent coach stand up in the face of the institution that employs him. Jonas and LaVar also talk about the Dolphins/Jaguars cancellation, and how it could impact games this season going forwards. Plus, a new edition of “Would You Rather?” and so much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:55):
Listen. That's like when you're about to start a fight.
So uh her that they said, well, you like to
go to bed with your draws on backwards and a
brawl on your heads as shades to your eyes to
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keep the light out and see what you did there?
As do what you did there?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It feels like we are entering the final stretch of
the Jim Harbaugh experience at Michigan. Jim Harbaugh, who will
be suspended the first three games of this upcoming season.
He's got a bunch of different assistants who are going
to be filling in for him. For to be exact,
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he's got his dad as part of the staff. This
is all going back to the COVID violations for Jim Harbaugh,
not the cheeseburger that he purchased for a player reportedly,
Oh and the fact that they had a deal done
with the NCAA and then all of a sudden, the
NCAA backed out of the deal the last minute, and
so then Michigan had to self impose this three game suspension.
(03:10):
And so Jim Marbaugh opened up his press conference yesterday
and decided, now's the time that I'm going to go
ahead and air out the NCAA for what I feel
is an unfair and non existent revenue split with the players.
And so let's take a listen to the Michigan head coach.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I want them to.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Be treated with respect and the dignity that they deserve.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
What I don't understand, it's how the NCAAA television networks conferences, universities,
and coaches can continue to pull in millions, in some
cases billions of dollars in revenue off the efforts of
college student athletes across the country without providing enough opportunity
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to share.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
In the ever increasing revenues.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
In my opinion, do we capitalize on the talent for sure,
pay the talent for their contributions to the body line.
I'm calling for.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
As system that's fair, equitable, and benefits all involved.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Don't exclude the student athletes from the province. I can't
say you're about diversity, equity and inclusion if you aren't
willing to conclude the student athletes and revenue share it.
We have to try to make it work, and we do.
We have to try to make it work, and we
have to try to make it better and work.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Now, the current status quote is unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It won't survive.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
There's your Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh letting it know
that he is not happy with the current setup of
the NCAAA and the non existent revenue split with the
players there in college football.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just always find myself like you're so. I've learned
a lot about collectives and how the collectives are are
being put in place to be able to help monetize
the schools and pay the players. Now, there's there's a
couple of ways to go about paying the players. One
(05:13):
way is through nonprofit deals that are done, so you
do a deal with the collective, doesn't deal with the player.
The player gets paid X amount of dollars, and that
X amount of dollars is basically paid through a five
oh one C three, which is a nonprofit, non taxable,
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you know entity. And so when you do that, you're
you're now talking about donations are the way that you're
able to, you know, compensate these players by them doing
their their appearances and different things like that. I always
just find myself curious when you get a coach of
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the magnitude of a horrible and they start talking and
preaching about things like that. I just wonder, are they
putting their money where their mouths are? Because Jim Harball
makes about how much a year, nine ten million, Yeah
something like that. Yeah, well, why not donate six million
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of that? Or you know, after, you know, before after
I don't know, why don't you donate six million two
your collective? Then you put six million into the collect now.
I don't know if it's legal. He's actually I'm seeing
a little over seven million a year. I don't know
if it's legal or not. I guess you would have
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to check the rules. But I can't see how there
would be an issue with you donating to a charitable foundation.
So take half of your paycheck. Because I always said,
it's so funny to me when you hear these coaches
talking crazy about how players should be paid and trying
to kind of, you know, entice. It's the general public
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to buy into what it is that they seem to be,
which is an advocate that's being outspoken about the politics
and the policies that surround how players. You know, players
are compensated moving forward. But I would just be curious
as to if you're allowed to donate money and if
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you're allowed to donate money to nonprofit charities, Like if
if Jim Harbaugh wanted to give five million dollars to
make a wish, what would be stopping him from being
able to give five million dollars to make a wish? Nothing?
So if you gave five million dollars to make a
wish and five five million dollars is being used towards
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benefiting kids that are in Make a Wish, then you
did something amazing if you donated to a nonprofit that
is benefiting your college athletes, and those college athletes are
getting paid to go to those Make a Wish Foundation situations,
Spend time with those kids or special Olympics, Spend time
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with those kids. Do camps for these kids, go sit
in the hospital rooms with these kids. Give your money,
put your put your money where where where you're putting
your criticisms, and you're putting your and and listen to me.
I feel like, let's let's start there. Let's start there,
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because these coaches are making a king's ransom to coach,
so donate it. Donate it to these collectives so that
they can pay the players. Donate it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He strikes me as somebody who doesn't care if he
ends up getting canned after this season. I think he's
over college.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's what you took from the interview.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, I took the fact that he's the fact that
he's choosing this path to air out the NCAA. And
it's not the first time he's made comments like this,
but they're in the middle of a three game suspension
for him. Violations, recruiting during the COVID dead period and
all that, and is you know, the first game of
the season is coming up, and he opens up the
(09:12):
press conference with a state on college because.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
The NCAA is losing ground. Oh yeah, it's losing ground,
and it looks as though it's being decentralized, right like.
Everybody continues to have conversations about how these these conferences
are working to become independent of the NCAA, you know,
and and how that would look. I mean, if you
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really think about it, the NCAA has been pimping college
athletics pmping.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Of course, and he brings up the network TV deals,
which look all of that. I mean, those schools are
getting paid millions and millions of dollars with these TV deals.
I just I look at it almost as before he
gets out he wants to let everybody know what the
problem is, because I don't. I think he also recognizes
that as much as he complains about it, it's probably
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not going to get changed, especially while he's in college football.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But it's going down that lane. Yeah, So you want
to be you want to be remembered as someone who
was a champion and a hero of the people. Yeah,
like I tried to tell you, Yes, I tried to
tell you, he's talking about something that's already like that, that
cracking damn is already there. The water is already link
leaking through. Like you're not You're not the catalyst, so to,
(10:31):
but to be connected to those conversations, which he probably
will end up being connected to those conversations. You remember
when Jim Harball was or John John Jim Harley, Jim, Yeah,
you remember when he was championing, you know, paying players
at the college level. And as he said this years ago,
that this, that and the other. I don't I don't
(10:52):
think he's saying that because he's on his way out
and he doesn't care what happens. I think Harball wants
to continue to coach, I think, and he probably wants
to continue to coach at Michigan until he gets the
right opportunity at the next level again, and then I
think he'd go back to the pros. But what I
will say is is that it is it is an
interesting observation that you have kind of old school, old
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school establishments like Michigan, like institutions of what football represents,
and you have a coach that's within that within that
institution speaking on things that are progressive and forward. And
so when you look at it from that, from that angle,
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it just becomes an interesting conversation because how many how
many more coaches are going to come out and start
you know, Dion has probably made it very uncomfortable for
a lot of established coaches, of course, because he's building
a brand.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
While I will say, you know, one of my interesting
observations about Dion and some people you know probably have
noticed it and seen it. He's brought the attention and
he's he's put a lot of attention on the program,
and he's created a lot of excitement around the program.
He's brought a lot of players in, but the branding
and the influence has really all been surrounding him. He's
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leveraging his own brand to do it. Yeah, the first
coach that's able to leverage their own brand and build
and leverage the brands of these players where it's like legitimized,
like WHOA like they're out front and how they're marketing
and advertising this school. That's going to be interesting because
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now the conversation is going to have to shift away
from what it looks like and appears to be with
a Dion Sanders, And it's going to go down right
down the lane of what Harball is talking about. If
you have these players, like you think about it, you
watch a commercial going into the previews of the game.
They're not previewing the school. They're not. They're not showing
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the campus of the school when they say get ready
for football Saturday, they're not. They're not highlighting anything else
other than the marquee players that are connected to these
games that are being played in and and then once
those games take place, you know what they're doing on
Sports Center and all these other sports shows, shows like
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. You find out
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what the biggest storyline is, the most polarizing conversation to have,
and what's out there, and you talk about it, and
it's generally usually connected to an athlete and to a player.
So you're totally driving the economics the economy of what's
going on in sports media. Sports media is what's paying
out all of these crazy dollars for for these these
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TV deals and all that stuff, and the players aren't
making anything off of it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I think that part of Harbo's frustration is the
fact that the NCAA will get aggressive when it comes
to him and illegal recruiting do.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But they won't get aggressive about trying to figure out
how to pay these plays, and which I'm with that,
and I'm and I think it's a valid point. Yes,
it's very valid. You'll you'll go beyond Like, god, man,
look here, guys were getting in trouble. Schools were going
on probation because guys were trading jerseys for tattoos, right, Like,
you'll go all out have all of these investigations on
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a guy swapping out an autograph jersey for for tattoo
artwork and suspend them or take games away and and
all this other old mess. But when it comes down
to how do you figure out how to pay these
players and and how are you going to compensate them,
you're like kicking hands up, like we're pretty smart, we're
(14:46):
a pretty smart outfit. But you know, when it comes
to stuff like that, we just think that student athletes
should just well remain students.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You bought him a cheeseburger during the COVID dead period,
three game suspension, four games, suspend whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're auctioning off a terrall prior sign jersey probably in
the thousands. That man signs a jersey and exchanges it
for service from a tattoo artist, and you have a
problem with it. It's just the hypocrisy that exists with
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how you're able to basically leverage the brands of these
marquee athletes that are coming into college and the moment
that it looks like they can benefit from their own name,
image and likeness, you have a problem. But as long
as you're leveraging their name, image and likeness, there's no problem.
You're you're leveraging their name, image and likenesses to be
(15:44):
able to ink deals that are crazy million dollar deals.
You're marketing and advertising these brands to sell tickets, and
you're not just putting like oh, one hundred in seven thousand,
one hundred and eighteen thousand, like ninety thousand, like You're
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leveraging the brands of these athletes to sell the tickets
and sell out your shows. But there's a problem with
paying them. There's a problem with compensating.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And it's the most popular college football's ever been. I mean,
it's overtaken the NBA. It's now clearly the number two
sport behind the NFL. And depending on who you asked,
there's some people that prefer college football to the NFL.
And still you've got the same tired model, all right,
business one, and.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Then you're going to protect that to the end. And
so you might as well have somebody like Harball who
wants to try to further solidify their legacy by saying
he was a progressive thinker, he was pro player, he
was pro family and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you know
that that's where this is going anyway, So you get
out in front of it like, oh, you take a
(16:55):
little bit of heat, but you already suspend it anyway,
so you know. But I'm not saying he's wrong. No,
he's not wrong. I'm not saying he's wrong. No, he's
one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Uh And tis the h tis the season for people
to point this stuff out at Harbaugh apparently is letting
it fly here and what could be his swan song
as Michigan head coach.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know about that.
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Speaker 1 (19:09):
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yeah my bad.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
This is the original. Though, this isn't reminisce over you.
Who is it? Chris? What? What? What group is this?
I always ask you when it comes on. Yeah, I
think we Jay rowls. Yeah, there we go. Yeah you
didn't know that well, I was just wow while you
hit the sniff though, while you hit the smooth sniff
like I knew that. Damn, Oh my bad. It is
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two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Here on Fox Sports Studio, LeVar Arrington Jones definitely pretty passive.
I don't have any cash on me. Can we stop
with these fines? I don't have cash, and I feel
like I'm got cash player. I feel like I'm getting
held out.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
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Speaker 1 (19:51):
You see how much I've spent for my truck. You
got cash, my gee money. All my money goes my Sanford.
I got yard rakes or lawnmowers hanging out the back.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
You should you should paint that bad boy rid. If
you painted it red, that would be cool. When you
pull up, I'd be laughing. No, listen, mod.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
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all I got coming up in twenty minutes from now.
It is a Tuesday, so we're gonna have some would
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He's got a He's got a burger recipe that is out.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
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Speaker 2 (20:54):
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
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You know it's a chef's a chef's kiss. You know
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Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'll tell you what. I made some steaks the other day.
What'd you do? Tomahawks ribbies? They were rabbis and you
go to the butcher, don't I do? Damn it. I
want to go to the butcher. Go to the butcher.
I got a butcher, shouts out to my people. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
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Speaker 2 (21:32):
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Speaker 1 (21:36):
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they were pretty fire, and and the new the new
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But I'm gonna just tell y'all out there because I
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Speaker 2 (21:58):
Is brown sugar and honey? Really? Yes, it's I'm telling
you it makes all the difference when you when you
grill that bad boy. I was always wondering why I
couldn't get my steaks to look a certain way and
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even taste a certain way. I mean, what's that supposed
to mean? I mean, I mean it meant exactly what
I said it then. I mean I couldn't get it
to look a certain type of way. I couldn't get
it to taste a certain time. I wanted to look darker.
I mean, is ridiculous here.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean a little bit more texture to me, like
you like a little bit more some you know, more
curvature to it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There. I'm not talking about the shape of it. I
was talking about the color of the meat. When I finished,
I wanted to look a certain type of way, and
I want to taste a certain type of it. Love
it the caramelization. There you go, that brown sugar, man,
I'm telling you, really see what in my mind, this
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is what I figured out. If you put honey, like
if you drizzle honey on it and then put put
brown sugar on it at the end, it like kind
of and then you rub it like you make sure
you rub it evenly. It sticks like the garlic that
you put on there, and I put real garlic on
(23:29):
my steaks. All the seasonings that you're putting on there,
it kind of it sticks when you put honey on there,
and then when you put the brown sugar on there,
it caramelizes. As you know. It was just stated to you,
and that's pretty it. I mean, it came out really
really what I mean, it was really my.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Best steaks that I've ever made. Man, there's nothing like
man fire. Grilling is so fun, man, It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
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really takes care of your boy. Man. So that's south
to Trager. Chea Lee, I'll be cooking like a mothersucker
on them joints, man, I'd be burning like crazy. Tragger
changes everything.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
That.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now here's the problem with football. It's not like grilling.
Like grilling feels like it just continues to stay consistent.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But you can't have one without the other.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, no, that I mean that is that is a
fair point. But it feels like at least grilling, you
throw some meat on the grill, you got the you know,
labor day barbecue coming up, people saying goodbye to summer
and all that. Yeah, we'd even out though out here
in southern California it's only getting hotter. Yeah, but uh
but you get it. You're only getting higher taxes too, Yeah, taxes.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There is that. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But it feels like, while is consistent as grilling is
and has been for decades upon decades, we're starting to
see a little bit of a change in the world
of football.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So what's the change? So what has happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But I wanted to get your thoughts on it as
somebody who appreciates old school football the way that you do,
LeVar Arrington, because the Dolphins in Jaguars final preseason game
was canceled early because David Davis was taken off the
field on a board and to the hospital. Now he's fine,
(25:23):
but there was about eight minutes left in the game
and Mike McDaniel and Doug Peterson decided that we're going
to go ahead and cancel this game out of caution.
So that makes this the third game that's been canceled
in the last seven months by my count. You obviously
had what happened with Tamar Hamlin. And then you had
the Packers preseason game a couple of weeks ago. There
(25:45):
was an injury in that game and the game was
called off. And then you have the Dolphins and the
Jaguars who have called this game off.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I just wonder, is there some type of rule that's
there that says, if something of some type of circumstance,
extreme circumstance were to happen, that this is how much
time would have to be left, like almost in like
a you know, if inadvertent head but takes place, you
(26:12):
open up a guy's eye, he can't continue to fight.
It goes to the scorecards, if it makes it to
a certain amount of rounds, stuff like that. I wonder
if that's already there, because I wouldn't think that coaches
would just be able to say we're not playing anymore,
like we're done, Like we're walking off the field like
he's he's he's been injured. It's a significant injury. We're
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not because if you really look at it from a
I guess a subjective standpoint, what if that happens during
the regular season. I mean, we saw it happen with
Deamar Hamlin, and that was a very very extreme case
of it. But let's be clear, injuries where guys have
to be carted off the field happened quite a bit.
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I mean, we just saw Kyler Murray get get you know,
go go carted off the field, you know what I mean,
Like you're going to see guys get injured where they
go off the field. Now he laid motionless. This player
did lay motionless, and they did have to take him
off on the board under precautionary you know measures. But again,
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you're talking about a game that's a full contact sport
where these types of injuries they just they're they're imminent.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Would you explain you and Brady for people that weren't
listening at the time, but you guys talked about rivers riverside, Okay,
explain what that means.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Oh, Duke could be dying, Duke could have broke his leg,
ruptured his spleen, you name it, whatever it is. Once
they go down, wherever they go down, they went down,
they're hurt. Trainers riverside, So basically, riverside means you turn
your backs and sometimes, depending on where the injury takes place,
(27:59):
you go to a different field, But more often than not,
you just moved the drill away from where the injury
took place, and you turn the So if it's an
offensive period, then even if it's a defensive period, you
don't want the plays running towards where the injury took place.
So riverside is basically a term that says turn turn
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the flow of the plays away from where the injury
took place. That's that's the meaning of riverside. And there's
never been an injury. I've never been a part of
an injury. And I've been a part of a guy
getting taken to the hospital in an ambulance. They brought
the ambulance to the field and scooped him up, put
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him in there, and took him to the hospital because
it was that series of an injury. And we riversided,
and when they knew that they had to bring an
ambulance on, we went to an entirely different field. It
just feels like we're a long ways away from that. Yeah,
I mean, well, I just think where technology is now
(29:05):
and and people's ability to be able to voice their
opinions on social media and the impact that it's able
to have on consumers and the economy. I just feel
like people have been forced to take inventory on on
(29:25):
being correct, on on making sure that you're not offending people,
because when they come together, if you're if you're able
to use that technology, like you think about my day,
there wasn't there wasn't social media, so you can't socially
put something out there like that, like the video you
just sent the coach punching that dude in the stomach.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
That was courtesy of Arnie Spanier, who has been harassing
us with that content topic ideas all morning.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, I mean you punch a you punch a player
in the stomach, you punch of punch of player in
the stomach in the eighties, seventies, nineties and get it raised.
Nobody's going to talk about nobody's ever going to talk
about it, right. It's never like you could grab a
(30:14):
guy by his i've i've i've I have been a
part of getting hit upside my head by a coach
like boom, wake up, like let's go, it's time to play. Bam,
wake up like like they are cold cocking you, bro,
Like it's not like like hit my head, like all right, yeah,
(30:35):
get get it, get your head right, like get in
the game, like nah, man, you came off that field
and you made a mistake, and it's like boom face man,
grab you by your face around. I had a coach
who had keys and he would whack you over the
hell or with or with their their their whistle. You
put you with their whistle. There's all kinds of different
things that took place that you never hear discuss, talk
(30:59):
about never sees the light of day. But now with
all this technology, everybody's got camera phones, everybody's got high deathcatch,
so people making movies out of people doing bad stuff,
you know what I mean. And this hits and the
moment people see it, it's like, you know, it's just
it's just the end of the world. It's the end
of the world that this coach punched that dude. Now,
(31:21):
it didn't look good like that. That was a horrible look,
but it was a It's a great example of the
idea of what public how much public opinion drives what
decisions are being made. It's like people, there was so
much anger and so much backlash for continuing to play
(31:43):
the game after Damar Hamlin went down, and then Skip
Bayless comes out. He says what he says some would
say that that was the final straw that ended it
for him and Shannon Sharp. Shannon didn't do the show
the next day, Like there were There's just a lot
of different diferent opinions that can come out of think
someone's health.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Do you think that game should have been canceled the
demorw hamblin game?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think I don't. I'm I'm going to say this,
the severity of of of how that all transpired, the
just kind of the the course of events, how how
it happened. I don't have a problem with them canceling
the game. I don't. I don't have a problem with
(32:31):
them calling the game at the point that they called
if it were the first play of the game, that's
one that's I don't, you know, I don't. I just
think the severity of what took place with Damar Hamlin
is one of those one times where I say, you
know what, this is bigger than the sport. This is
bigger than the sport. But that's not but but it's
(32:53):
up to interpretation sometimes, right, Yeah, But that one wasn't
up for interpretation. I think everybody knew that that was
a life devit situation that was playing out right in
front of people on camera, and that was the severity
of that one is a little bit. I think that
that is an outlier.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It just feels like we've opened up the doors to
the ability for this to happen. And I just wonder if, well,
the tomorrow Hamlin situation was very serious and a lot
of people were put in a pretty tough spot. It
was national television and all that. I mean, you know, yeah,
these are just preseason games. But I just wonder, are
(33:29):
we to the point now to where this is going
to happen more often?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And I just I.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Feel like that's a bit of not to be cold
or callous, but a bit of an overreaction.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think it's a tad bit of Again, I think
I think it's pretty pretty I don't know, I keep
hearing trending in my ear, so I lose my thought. Yeah,
But I think the bottom line is is I think
the severity of Damar Hamlin's is very That's that's not
happening every day. Yeah, So I think that that's where
(34:01):
it gets a tab bit complicated in terms of how
you interpret an injury moving forward and how you should
handle what you do after that. I'd be curious if
an injury like that takes place in the regular season,
how that will play out? Do you cancel the rest
of a regular season game? Answers probably know, yeah, so,
which means now you're creating a different level and a
(34:21):
different capacity of how things are handled, and there could
be a level of hypocrisy. Are you not as important
in regular season as you are in pre season? Whereas
preseason just not important enough? Where if somebody's life is
on the line, let's just end the game like it does,
open up conversation for debate for other things.
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Would you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
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All right?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Lead to lap is out.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
He is camping and probably waking up in just a
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So that means Brandon Trufa is in for us. Brandon,
what do we got here? On this edition of would
you rather?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
All?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (35:52):
So, on this week in two thousand and nine, the
movie In Glorious Bastards broke box office records when it opened,
and on this weekendnineteen ninety nine, the Sixth Sense did
the same. So would you rather watch in Glorious Bastards
or the sixth Sense?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sixth Sense was pretty I still don't think that I've
watched In Glorious Bastards and its entirety, but the sixth
Sense was was pretty is a pretty well done movie. Yeah,
I'll say I'm in on that. I see Dead People. Yeah,
sixthness was pretty pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the sixth sense. I never
saw in Glorious Bastards. That's a Is that a Tarantino movie?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, and then the other one was M Night Chair
was Glorious Bastards, right, yeah, it's fantastic, and then M
Night Shamalon did the sixth sense?
Speaker 6 (36:41):
I believe?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I believe so yes.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So yeah, I'll go with the sixth cents as well too.
All right, what else we got, Brandon?
Speaker 8 (36:48):
All right, well, we actually have the movie The Goodies
on here in the studio in the control room, So.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Why do we not have it on? Because of Jonas's.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Uh watch and I gotta know what's going on on
the local weather and then the weather channels one hurricane, I.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Would I would enjoy watching the Goonies, but go ahead,
try and enjoy the seven day forecast.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Yeah, it had me thinking, would you rather be in
the Goonies or the Outsiders?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
The Goonies was way fun.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'll do the Outsiders just because it feels I basically
wear the same clothes they do.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah you don't is just way fun though. Sorry, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
With Goonies it's just like it's it's a bunch of
booty traps. Yeah, you know, hey, the booty traps. It's
a bunch of weirdos in that movie The Goonies though, you.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Know, outside such a great feeling though, feel.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Good Greasers and the Soshas, like just just throwing down
in the park.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Stoop for Jobby bab that was what Patrick Swayze in them. Yeah,
stoop for Jobby Man. Yeah, that's too much violence.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Ralph Macchio gets burn and trying to save some kids
in a school. What are you laughing about? What's wrong
with you? Ralph Macchio? He makes me laugh?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
What because he's one of the worst built super like
like heroes athlete heroes of all time. Like, ain't no
way Ralph Macchio's built ass was beaten Johnny in the
first one. It's like he damn sure ain't beating a
homeboy in Oki Nawa and then the dude the third one,
(38:27):
like where he was just like the super mutant of
the Cobra kay Like Ralph Machio ain't never been supposed
to beat nobody and no type of martial arts situation.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
It's like starring Peter Dinklic in an NBA movie. You know,
it's like what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Like Ralph Maccio, like, come on, you picked the worst
dude to beat. Somebody's like yeah, like yeah, that is true.
It's just like no, like there's zero going on with everything.
That made sense was when he was getting kicked over
the hill on his bike, throwing his bike away. And
you don't go from that to being the dude that
(39:04):
beats up on the biggest bully in the school. That
ain't how it happens in real life. Karate Kid got
a lot of innocent kids asses kicked back in the day.
It's a great call. It is a great call.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
And you know what, if you turn the water on
in a shower when guys are trying to smoke weed,
you deserve to get smacked up.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Here you go, you're trying to impress the girl with Yeah,
come on, leave that man alone. Kick your head, your son,
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go to bed with your draws on backwards and a
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keep the light out and see what you did there?
As do what you did there?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It feels like we are entering the final stretch of
the Jim Harbaugh experience at Michigan. Jim Harbaugh, who will
be suspended the first three games of this upcoming season.
He's got a bunch of different assistants who are going
to be filling in for him. For to be exact,
(02:46):
he's got his dad as part of the staff. This
is all going back to the COVID violations for Jim Harbaugh,
not the cheeseburger that he purchased for a player reportedly,
Oh and the fact that they had a deal done
with the NCAA and then all of a sudden, the
NCAA backed out of the deal the last minute, and
so then Michigan had to self impose this three game suspension.
(03:10):
And so Jim Marbaugh opened up his press conference yesterday
and decided, now's the time that I'm going to go
ahead and air out the NCAA for what I feel
is an unfair and non existent revenue split with the players.
And so let's take a listen to the Michigan head coach.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
I want them to.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Be treated with respect and the dignity that they deserve.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
What I don't understand, it's how the NCAAA television networks conferences, universities,
and coaches can continue to pull in millions, in some
cases billions of dollars in revenue off the efforts of
college student athletes across the country without providing enough opportunity
(03:56):
to share.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
In the ever increasing revenues.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
In my opinion, do we capitalize on the talent for sure,
pay the talent for their contributions to the body line.
I'm calling for.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
As system that's fair, equitable, and benefits all involved.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Don't exclude the student athletes from the province. I can't
say you're about diversity, equity and inclusion if you aren't
willing to conclude the student athletes and revenue share it.
We have to try to make it work, and we do.
We have to try to make it work, and we
have to try to make it better and work.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
Now, the current status quote is unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
It won't survive.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
There's your Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh letting it know
that he is not happy with the current setup of
the NCAAA and the non existent revenue split with the
players there in college football.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I just always find myself like you're so. I've learned
a lot about collectives and how the collectives are are
being put in place to be able to help monetize
the schools and pay the players. Now, there's there's a
couple of ways to go about paying the players. One
(05:13):
way is through nonprofit deals that are done, so you
do a deal with the collective, doesn't deal with the player.
The player gets paid X amount of dollars, and that
X amount of dollars is basically paid through a five
oh one C three, which is a nonprofit, non taxable,
(05:35):
you know entity. And so when you do that, you're
you're now talking about donations are the way that you're
able to, you know, compensate these players by them doing
their their appearances and different things like that. I always
just find myself curious when you get a coach of
(05:57):
the magnitude of a horrible and they start talking and
preaching about things like that. I just wonder, are they
putting their money where their mouths are? Because Jim Harball
makes about how much a year, nine ten million, Yeah
something like that. Yeah, well, why not donate six million
(06:19):
of that? Or you know, after, you know, before after
I don't know, why don't you donate six million two
your collective? Then you put six million into the collect now.
I don't know if it's legal. He's actually I'm seeing
a little over seven million a year. I don't know
if it's legal or not. I guess you would have
(06:39):
to check the rules. But I can't see how there
would be an issue with you donating to a charitable foundation.
So take half of your paycheck. Because I always said,
it's so funny to me when you hear these coaches
talking crazy about how players should be paid and trying
to kind of, you know, entice. It's the general public
(07:01):
to buy into what it is that they seem to be,
which is an advocate that's being outspoken about the politics
and the policies that surround how players. You know, players
are compensated moving forward. But I would just be curious
as to if you're allowed to donate money and if
(07:23):
you're allowed to donate money to nonprofit charities, Like if
if Jim Harbaugh wanted to give five million dollars to
make a wish, what would be stopping him from being
able to give five million dollars to make a wish? Nothing?
So if you gave five million dollars to make a
wish and five five million dollars is being used towards
(07:44):
benefiting kids that are in Make a Wish, then you
did something amazing if you donated to a nonprofit that
is benefiting your college athletes, and those college athletes are
getting paid to go to those Make a Wish Foundation situations,
Spend time with those kids or special Olympics, Spend time
(08:07):
with those kids. Do camps for these kids, go sit
in the hospital rooms with these kids. Give your money,
put your put your money where where where you're putting
your criticisms, and you're putting your and and listen to me.
I feel like, let's let's start there. Let's start there,
(08:27):
because these coaches are making a king's ransom to coach,
so donate it. Donate it to these collectives so that
they can pay the players. Donate it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
He strikes me as somebody who doesn't care if he
ends up getting canned after this season. I think he's
over college.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
That's what you took from the interview.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Well, I took the fact that he's the fact that
he's choosing this path to air out the NCAA. And
it's not the first time he's made comments like this,
but they're in the middle of a three game suspension
for him. Violations, recruiting during the COVID dead period and
all that, and is you know, the first game of
the season is coming up, and he opens up the
(09:12):
press conference with a state on college because.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
The NCAA is losing ground. Oh yeah, it's losing ground,
and it looks as though it's being decentralized, right like.
Everybody continues to have conversations about how these these conferences
are working to become independent of the NCAA, you know,
and and how that would look. I mean, if you
(09:35):
really think about it, the NCAA has been pimping college
athletics pmping.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Of course, and he brings up the network TV deals,
which look all of that. I mean, those schools are
getting paid millions and millions of dollars with these TV deals.
I just I look at it almost as before he
gets out he wants to let everybody know what the
problem is, because I don't. I think he also recognizes
that as much as he complains about it, it's probably
(10:04):
not going to get changed, especially while he's in college football.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But it's going down that lane. Yeah, So you want
to be you want to be remembered as someone who
was a champion and a hero of the people. Yeah,
like I tried to tell you, Yes, I tried to
tell you, he's talking about something that's already like that, that
cracking damn is already there. The water is already link
leaking through. Like you're not You're not the catalyst, so to,
(10:31):
but to be connected to those conversations, which he probably
will end up being connected to those conversations. You remember
when Jim Harball was or John John Jim Harley, Jim, Yeah,
you remember when he was championing, you know, paying players
at the college level. And as he said this years ago,
that this, that and the other. I don't I don't
(10:52):
think he's saying that because he's on his way out
and he doesn't care what happens. I think Harball wants
to continue to coach, I think, and he probably wants
to continue to coach at Michigan until he gets the
right opportunity at the next level again, and then I
think he'd go back to the pros. But what I
will say is is that it is it is an
interesting observation that you have kind of old school, old
(11:18):
school establishments like Michigan, like institutions of what football represents,
and you have a coach that's within that within that
institution speaking on things that are progressive and forward. And
so when you look at it from that, from that angle,
(11:41):
it just becomes an interesting conversation because how many how
many more coaches are going to come out and start
you know, Dion has probably made it very uncomfortable for
a lot of established coaches, of course, because he's building
a brand.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
While I will say, you know, one of my interesting
observations about Dion and some people you know probably have
noticed it and seen it. He's brought the attention and
he's he's put a lot of attention on the program,
and he's created a lot of excitement around the program.
He's brought a lot of players in, but the branding
and the influence has really all been surrounding him. He's
(12:19):
leveraging his own brand to do it. Yeah, the first
coach that's able to leverage their own brand and build
and leverage the brands of these players where it's like legitimized,
like WHOA like they're out front and how they're marketing
and advertising this school. That's going to be interesting because
(12:42):
now the conversation is going to have to shift away
from what it looks like and appears to be with
a Dion Sanders, And it's going to go down right
down the lane of what Harball is talking about. If
you have these players, like you think about it, you
watch a commercial going into the previews of the game.
They're not previewing the school. They're not. They're not showing
(13:04):
the campus of the school when they say get ready
for football Saturday, they're not. They're not highlighting anything else
other than the marquee players that are connected to these
games that are being played in and and then once
those games take place, you know what they're doing on
Sports Center and all these other sports shows, shows like
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. You find out
(13:24):
what the biggest storyline is, the most polarizing conversation to have,
and what's out there, and you talk about it, and
it's generally usually connected to an athlete and to a player.
So you're totally driving the economics the economy of what's
going on in sports media. Sports media is what's paying
out all of these crazy dollars for for these these
(13:46):
TV deals and all that stuff, and the players aren't
making anything off of it.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I think that part of Harbo's frustration is the
fact that the NCAA will get aggressive when it comes
to him and illegal recruiting do.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
But they won't get aggressive about trying to figure out
how to pay these plays, and which I'm with that,
and I'm and I think it's a valid point. Yes,
it's very valid. You'll you'll go beyond Like, god, man,
look here, guys were getting in trouble. Schools were going
on probation because guys were trading jerseys for tattoos, right, Like,
you'll go all out have all of these investigations on
(14:24):
a guy swapping out an autograph jersey for for tattoo
artwork and suspend them or take games away and and
all this other old mess. But when it comes down
to how do you figure out how to pay these
players and and how are you going to compensate them,
you're like kicking hands up, like we're pretty smart, we're
(14:46):
a pretty smart outfit. But you know, when it comes
to stuff like that, we just think that student athletes
should just well remain students.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
You bought him a cheeseburger during the COVID dead period,
three game suspension, four games, suspend whole thing.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You're auctioning off a terrall prior sign jersey probably in
the thousands. That man signs a jersey and exchanges it
for service from a tattoo artist, and you have a
problem with it. It's just the hypocrisy that exists with
(15:21):
how you're able to basically leverage the brands of these
marquee athletes that are coming into college and the moment
that it looks like they can benefit from their own name,
image and likeness, you have a problem. But as long
as you're leveraging their name, image and likeness, there's no problem.
You're you're leveraging their name, image and likenesses to be
(15:44):
able to ink deals that are crazy million dollar deals.
You're marketing and advertising these brands to sell tickets, and
you're not just putting like oh, one hundred in seven thousand,
one hundred and eighteen thousand, like ninety thousand, like You're
(16:05):
leveraging the brands of these athletes to sell the tickets
and sell out your shows. But there's a problem with
paying them. There's a problem with compensating.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
And it's the most popular college football's ever been. I mean,
it's overtaken the NBA. It's now clearly the number two
sport behind the NFL. And depending on who you asked,
there's some people that prefer college football to the NFL.
And still you've got the same tired model, all right,
business one, and.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Then you're going to protect that to the end. And
so you might as well have somebody like Harball who
wants to try to further solidify their legacy by saying
he was a progressive thinker, he was pro player, he
was pro family and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you know
that that's where this is going anyway, So you get
out in front of it like, oh, you take a
(16:55):
little bit of heat, but you already suspend it anyway,
so you know. But I'm not saying he's wrong. No,
he's not wrong. I'm not saying he's wrong. No, he's
one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Uh And tis the h tis the season for people
to point this stuff out at Harbaugh apparently is letting
it fly here and what could be his swan song
as Michigan head coach.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know about that.
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A reminisce A reminisce of reminisce, a reminisce A reminisce
for spell or back then at the age of twenty one,
I don't remember the words cause it's kind of early.
But this is the original, so it don't matter. How
about that. It's all right, I got you.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Dang my bad, cl smooth, yeah my bad, Pete runck
yeah my bad.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
This is the original. Though, this isn't reminisce over you.
Who is it? Chris? What? What? What group is this?
I always ask you when it comes on. Yeah, I
think we Jay rowls. Yeah, there we go. Yeah you
didn't know that well, I was just wow while you
hit the sniff though, while you hit the smooth sniff
like I knew that. Damn, Oh my bad. It is
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two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Here on Fox Sports Studio, LeVar Arrington Jones definitely pretty passive.
I don't have any cash on me. Can we stop
with these fines? I don't have cash, and I feel
like I'm got cash player. I feel like I'm getting
held out.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
You see how much I've spent for my truck. You
got cash, my gee money. All my money goes my Sanford.
I got yard rakes or lawnmowers hanging out the back.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
You should you should paint that bad boy rid. If
you painted it red, that would be cool. When you
pull up, I'd be laughing. No, listen, mod.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It is two pros and you'd be confident. Yeah, that's
all I got coming up in twenty minutes from now.
It is a Tuesday, so we're gonna have some would
you rather here on the program? I did want to
give a shout out. My buddy Mike is listening. He's
at the mic on his way to becoming a master chef.
He's got a He's got a burger recipe that is out.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Of this world that I want to share with you.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
You like blue cheese crumbles, correct, I love blue cheese man,
blue cheese crumbles and Jalapanio's mixed in this burger recipe.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It is dynamite.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
So if you're going to be barbecuing from little Labor
Day barbecue, throw on some some mic burgers.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Fill you right up. You have the attention to this
entire control room in here as well.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Telling you'll maybe if I get approval, share it with
you off air. I can't share it with you on air.
You know it's a chef's a chef's kiss. You know
you got to keep it quiet.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
I'll tell you what. I made some steaks the other day.
What'd you do? Tomahawks ribbies? They were rabbis and you
go to the butcher, don't I do? Damn it. I
want to go to the butcher. Go to the butcher.
I got a butcher, shouts out to my people. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
What what's the name of the place. Wow my blanket. Hey,
they're not a sponsor, they're not getting into produce.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Produce. Godly, I'm tripping anyways.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Uh, the way I prepared them with pretty freaking fire, Jodath,
they were pretty fire, and and the new the new
technique is really adding. I'm like givings away right now.
But I'm gonna just tell y'all out there because I
got mad love for y'all.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Is brown sugar and honey? Really? Yes, it's I'm telling
you it makes all the difference when you when you
grill that bad boy. I was always wondering why I
couldn't get my steaks to look a certain way and
(22:19):
even taste a certain way. I mean, what's that supposed
to mean? I mean, I mean it meant exactly what
I said it then. I mean I couldn't get it
to look a certain type of way. I couldn't get
it to taste a certain time. I wanted to look darker.
I mean, is ridiculous here.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
I mean a little bit more texture to me, like
you like a little bit more some you know, more
curvature to it.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
There. I'm not talking about the shape of it. I
was talking about the color of the meat. When I finished,
I wanted to look a certain type of way, and
I want to taste a certain type of it. Love
it the caramelization. There you go, that brown sugar, man,
I'm telling you, really see what in my mind, this
(23:08):
is what I figured out. If you put honey, like
if you drizzle honey on it and then put put
brown sugar on it at the end, it like kind
of and then you rub it like you make sure
you rub it evenly. It sticks like the garlic that
you put on there, and I put real garlic on
(23:29):
my steaks. All the seasonings that you're putting on there,
it kind of it sticks when you put honey on there,
and then when you put the brown sugar on there,
it caramelizes. As you know. It was just stated to you,
and that's pretty it. I mean, it came out really
really what I mean, it was really my.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Best steaks that I've ever made. Man, there's nothing like
man fire. Grilling is so fun, man, It's so fun.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It shots out the trigger. Man is like the trager
really takes care of your boy. Man. So that's south
to Trager. Chea Lee, I'll be cooking like a mothersucker
on them joints, man, I'd be burning like crazy. Tragger
changes everything.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
That.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Now here's the problem with football. It's not like grilling.
Like grilling feels like it just continues to stay consistent.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
But you can't have one without the other.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, no, that I mean that is that is a
fair point. But it feels like at least grilling, you
throw some meat on the grill, you got the you know,
labor day barbecue coming up, people saying goodbye to summer
and all that. Yeah, we'd even out though out here
in southern California it's only getting hotter. Yeah, but uh
but you get it. You're only getting higher taxes too, Yeah, taxes.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
There is that. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But it feels like, while is consistent as grilling is
and has been for decades upon decades, we're starting to
see a little bit of a change in the world
of football.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
So what's the change? So what has happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
But I wanted to get your thoughts on it as
somebody who appreciates old school football the way that you do,
LeVar Arrington, because the Dolphins in Jaguars final preseason game
was canceled early because David Davis was taken off the
field on a board and to the hospital. Now he's fine,
(25:23):
but there was about eight minutes left in the game
and Mike McDaniel and Doug Peterson decided that we're going
to go ahead and cancel this game out of caution.
So that makes this the third game that's been canceled
in the last seven months by my count. You obviously
had what happened with Tamar Hamlin. And then you had
the Packers preseason game a couple of weeks ago. There
(25:45):
was an injury in that game and the game was
called off. And then you have the Dolphins and the
Jaguars who have called this game off.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I just wonder, is there some type of rule that's
there that says, if something of some type of circumstance,
extreme circumstance were to happen, that this is how much
time would have to be left, like almost in like
a you know, if inadvertent head but takes place, you
(26:12):
open up a guy's eye, he can't continue to fight.
It goes to the scorecards, if it makes it to
a certain amount of rounds, stuff like that. I wonder
if that's already there, because I wouldn't think that coaches
would just be able to say we're not playing anymore,
like we're done, Like we're walking off the field like
he's he's he's been injured. It's a significant injury. We're
(26:33):
not because if you really look at it from a
I guess a subjective standpoint, what if that happens during
the regular season. I mean, we saw it happen with
Deamar Hamlin, and that was a very very extreme case
of it. But let's be clear, injuries where guys have
to be carted off the field happened quite a bit.
(26:55):
I mean, we just saw Kyler Murray get get you know,
go go carted off the field, you know what I mean,
Like you're going to see guys get injured where they
go off the field. Now he laid motionless. This player
did lay motionless, and they did have to take him
off on the board under precautionary you know measures. But again,
(27:18):
you're talking about a game that's a full contact sport
where these types of injuries they just they're they're imminent.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Would you explain you and Brady for people that weren't
listening at the time, but you guys talked about rivers riverside, Okay,
explain what that means.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Oh, Duke could be dying, Duke could have broke his leg,
ruptured his spleen, you name it, whatever it is. Once
they go down, wherever they go down, they went down,
they're hurt. Trainers riverside, So basically, riverside means you turn
your backs and sometimes, depending on where the injury takes place,
(27:59):
you go to a different field, But more often than not,
you just moved the drill away from where the injury
took place, and you turn the So if it's an
offensive period, then even if it's a defensive period, you
don't want the plays running towards where the injury took place.
So riverside is basically a term that says turn turn
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the flow of the plays away from where the injury
took place. That's that's the meaning of riverside. And there's
never been an injury. I've never been a part of
an injury. And I've been a part of a guy
getting taken to the hospital in an ambulance. They brought
the ambulance to the field and scooped him up, put
(28:44):
him in there, and took him to the hospital because
it was that series of an injury. And we riversided,
and when they knew that they had to bring an
ambulance on, we went to an entirely different field. It
just feels like we're a long ways away from that. Yeah,
I mean, well, I just think where technology is now
(29:05):
and and people's ability to be able to voice their
opinions on social media and the impact that it's able
to have on consumers and the economy. I just feel
like people have been forced to take inventory on on
(29:25):
being correct, on on making sure that you're not offending people,
because when they come together, if you're if you're able
to use that technology, like you think about my day,
there wasn't there wasn't social media, so you can't socially
put something out there like that, like the video you
just sent the coach punching that dude in the stomach.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
That was courtesy of Arnie Spanier, who has been harassing
us with that content topic ideas all morning.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Well, I mean you punch a you punch a player
in the stomach, you punch of punch of player in
the stomach in the eighties, seventies, nineties and get it raised.
Nobody's going to talk about nobody's ever going to talk
about it, right. It's never like you could grab a
(30:14):
guy by his i've i've i've I have been a
part of getting hit upside my head by a coach
like boom, wake up, like let's go, it's time to play. Bam,
wake up like like they are cold cocking you, bro,
Like it's not like like hit my head, like all right, yeah,
(30:35):
get get it, get your head right, like get in
the game, like nah, man, you came off that field
and you made a mistake, and it's like boom face man,
grab you by your face around. I had a coach
who had keys and he would whack you over the
hell or with or with their their their whistle. You
put you with their whistle. There's all kinds of different
things that took place that you never hear discuss, talk
(30:59):
about never sees the light of day. But now with
all this technology, everybody's got camera phones, everybody's got high deathcatch,
so people making movies out of people doing bad stuff,
you know what I mean. And this hits and the
moment people see it, it's like, you know, it's just
it's just the end of the world. It's the end
of the world that this coach punched that dude. Now,
(31:21):
it didn't look good like that. That was a horrible look,
but it was a It's a great example of the
idea of what public how much public opinion drives what
decisions are being made. It's like people, there was so
much anger and so much backlash for continuing to play
(31:43):
the game after Damar Hamlin went down, and then Skip
Bayless comes out. He says what he says some would
say that that was the final straw that ended it
for him and Shannon Sharp. Shannon didn't do the show
the next day, Like there were There's just a lot
of different diferent opinions that can come out of think
someone's health.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Do you think that game should have been canceled the
demorw hamblin game?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
I think I don't. I'm I'm going to say this,
the severity of of of how that all transpired, the
just kind of the the course of events, how how
it happened. I don't have a problem with them canceling
the game. I don't. I don't have a problem with
(32:31):
them calling the game at the point that they called
if it were the first play of the game, that's
one that's I don't, you know, I don't. I just
think the severity of what took place with Damar Hamlin
is one of those one times where I say, you
know what, this is bigger than the sport. This is
bigger than the sport. But that's not but but it's
(32:53):
up to interpretation sometimes, right, Yeah, But that one wasn't
up for interpretation. I think everybody knew that that was
a life devit situation that was playing out right in
front of people on camera, and that was the severity
of that one is a little bit. I think that
that is an outlier.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
It just feels like we've opened up the doors to
the ability for this to happen. And I just wonder if, well,
the tomorrow Hamlin situation was very serious and a lot
of people were put in a pretty tough spot. It
was national television and all that. I mean, you know, yeah,
these are just preseason games. But I just wonder, are
(33:29):
we to the point now to where this is going
to happen more often?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
And I just I.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Feel like that's a bit of not to be cold
or callous, but a bit of an overreaction.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think it's a tad bit of Again, I think
I think it's pretty pretty I don't know, I keep
hearing trending in my ear, so I lose my thought. Yeah,
But I think the bottom line is is I think
the severity of Damar Hamlin's is very That's that's not
happening every day. Yeah, So I think that that's where
(34:01):
it gets a tab bit complicated in terms of how
you interpret an injury moving forward and how you should
handle what you do after that. I'd be curious if
an injury like that takes place in the regular season,
how that will play out? Do you cancel the rest
of a regular season game? Answers probably know, yeah, so,
which means now you're creating a different level and a
(34:21):
different capacity of how things are handled, and there could
be a level of hypocrisy. Are you not as important
in regular season as you are in pre season? Whereas
preseason just not important enough? Where if somebody's life is
on the line, let's just end the game like it does,
open up conversation for debate for other things.
Speaker 6 (34:38):
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Speaker 1 (34:51):
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Speaker 2 (35:25):
Let's make history, and now, would.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
Would you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
Speaker 8 (35:35):
All right?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Lead to lap is out.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
He is camping and probably waking up in just a
puddle of booze and urine and who knows what else.
So that means Brandon Trufa is in for us. Brandon,
what do we got here? On this edition of would
you rather?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
All?
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Right?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (35:52):
So, on this week in two thousand and nine, the
movie In Glorious Bastards broke box office records when it opened,
and on this weekendnineteen ninety nine, the Sixth Sense did
the same. So would you rather watch in Glorious Bastards
or the sixth Sense?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Sixth Sense was pretty I still don't think that I've
watched In Glorious Bastards and its entirety, but the sixth
Sense was was pretty is a pretty well done movie. Yeah,
I'll say I'm in on that. I see Dead People. Yeah,
sixthness was pretty pretty intense.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the sixth sense. I never
saw in Glorious Bastards. That's a Is that a Tarantino movie?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, and then the other one was M Night Chair
was Glorious Bastards, right, yeah, it's fantastic, and then M
Night Shamalon did the sixth sense?
Speaker 6 (36:41):
I believe?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I believe so yes.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
So yeah, I'll go with the sixth cents as well too.
All right, what else we got, Brandon?
Speaker 8 (36:48):
All right, well, we actually have the movie The Goodies
on here in the studio in the control room, So.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Why do we not have it on? Because of Jonas's.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Uh watch and I gotta know what's going on on
the local weather and then the weather channels one hurricane, I.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Would I would enjoy watching the Goonies, but go ahead,
try and enjoy the seven day forecast.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Yeah, it had me thinking, would you rather be in
the Goonies or the Outsiders?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
The Goonies was way fun.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I'll do the Outsiders just because it feels I basically
wear the same clothes they do.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Yeah you don't is just way fun though. Sorry, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
With Goonies it's just like it's it's a bunch of
booty traps. Yeah, you know, hey, the booty traps. It's
a bunch of weirdos in that movie The Goonies though, you.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Know, outside such a great feeling though, feel.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Good Greasers and the Soshas, like just just throwing down
in the park.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Stoop for Jobby bab that was what Patrick Swayze in them. Yeah,
stoop for Jobby Man. Yeah, that's too much violence.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Ralph Macchio gets burn and trying to save some kids
in a school. What are you laughing about? What's wrong
with you? Ralph Macchio? He makes me laugh?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
What because he's one of the worst built super like
like heroes athlete heroes of all time. Like, ain't no
way Ralph Macchio's built ass was beaten Johnny in the
first one. It's like he damn sure ain't beating a
homeboy in Oki Nawa and then the dude the third one,
(38:27):
like where he was just like the super mutant of
the Cobra kay Like Ralph Machio ain't never been supposed
to beat nobody and no type of martial arts situation.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
It's like starring Peter Dinklic in an NBA movie. You know,
it's like what are we doing here?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Like Ralph Maccio, like, come on, you picked the worst
dude to beat. Somebody's like yeah, like yeah, that is true.
It's just like no, like there's zero going on with everything.
That made sense was when he was getting kicked over
the hill on his bike, throwing his bike away. And
you don't go from that to being the dude that
(39:04):
beats up on the biggest bully in the school. That
ain't how it happens in real life. Karate Kid got
a lot of innocent kids asses kicked back in the day.
It's a great call. It is a great call.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
And you know what, if you turn the water on
in a shower when guys are trying to smoke weed,
you deserve to get smacked up.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Here you go, you're trying to impress the girl with Yeah,
come on, leave that man alone. Kick your head, your son,
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