August 29, 2023 • 38 mins
Today on The Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox breakdown Cardinals HC Jonathan Gannon’s decision to start newly acquired QB Joshua Dobbs over an injured Kyler Murray to start the season. The guys react to Jim Harbaugh’s comments regarding NCAA revenue share. Although there is a ton of hypocrisy in Harbaugh’s comments, LaVar believes that it’s refreshing to see a prominent coach stand up in the face of the institution that employs him. Plus, Jonas and LaVar react to Kelly Stafford’s comments about her husband struggling to fit in with his younger teammates.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar arrings, Rating Win and Jonas Knox on
Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How that we feel here on a Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning, Jonas, good morning, Good morning guys, Good morning
everyone out there.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
By the way, I believe the the studio camera, uh
is not pointed in the correct direction.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's just pointed at me. Why isn't it pointed out
all of us? It's just pointed at me. I feel
LeVar is the like I'd be an interrogator.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
So there's there's a camera in studio here that we
use for some clips on YouTube and some of the
stuff that goes out video wise on social media.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And they really like LeVar.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
But that's going to be ten dollars for you, though,
because when you kind of a passive aggressive way of
you saying, come me talking, come change the come change
the camera angle. No, listen, I just stop saying it.
I mean, you're the you're the star of the show.
Clearly stop. You know they're they're they're folks. That'd be
ten dollars. You're up to twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Dollars, twenty bucks.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Hey, I was outside, I was outside making my mocha,
my mocha drinking. I was out there laying land mines
for for Lee and Lee isn't even in today, And
while while I was putting one, you know, in position,
Eddie came out and I felt really bad.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He did walk into the cloud.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
He did. He did, I really and and it was
like I was laughing to myself. I was, I was like, really,
like this is a good Lee. First of all, Lee's
not even hair. And then secondly, Eddie walked out at
like the peak horribleness of that moment in time. So Eddie,
I'm sorry. I want to offer this apology to you
(01:51):
in front of the entire world. I'm sorry for land
minding you. I thought it would have been Lee. I
heard a door close. I was like, here comes Lee.
I got him and it was Eddie and I felt
really bad.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, first of all, it's okay, LeVar, I don't need
a couple of coffee. Now wide awake, now, yeah. Help.
I walked out the studio door and and I heard
something and I'm like, well, that's Lee. And then I
remember it's not working today, so.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I got to see it for several days straight. The Lee.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Just go when you gotta go drop it when you
gotta drop it with no regard for any human life
around until you do it on the airplane, oh, airplane
in a mar just out and about okay, but come on,
we got out of the uber to get to the
airport in Dublin and he says to me, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm like, sorry about oh and it just hit your fall.
Your mouth was open speaking. Come on, I thought it
was exhaust from the Irish. It was not. It was Lee's.
It was yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Lee left the back porch door open, and just everybody
got it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It was foul. He is a foul human beings, so.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It looks like a nasty stinker though. He just has
the nasty stinker look.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, he just lets it fly and not here to
be held accountable for a little revenge from from LeVar
to start off the day, I was trying to get him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was trying to get him.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was it was a joke that hasn't you know,
played out since the departure of the other one that
was involved.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Alberto, Yeah, shouts out the Burdo.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Man. We miss you, buddy. Yeah, you know, but I
was just having a moment. Obviously you had walked into
my my pre my pre show h conversation and my
business it was it was interesting and and so you
know my belly let one go or it fell, didn't
I went a hit And it's like, let me get
(04:02):
Lee and didn't even know Lee wasn't you know?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
This is this is why we're professionals. There you go,
we do.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know the great thing about radio talk radio is
it so therapeutic. You know, it's like you can just
talk your way through things and just move on from it. Yeah,
and you get to talk to people out there. They
get to listen because they go through the same type
of stuff you're going through. So it's pretty cool man,
pretty relatable too. Oh you'll heir. Throughout the show, I
(04:29):
will be venting and and doing some very very much
necessary therapy during the course of this show.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know, we uh, we build this show, we put
it together. It's almost like we're playing SIMS and just
there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Of just the way that we're able to oh wow,
oh wow.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No, it's just get intensified. You might we might need
to dump that. We might need to dump that. I mean,
who out there knows about SIMS though? Come on, who
doesn't know about SIMS. Everybody played it. Somebody knows about
Is that like a dude's game. No, it's like, uh.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh, it's like it's like an everybody game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is it an everybody game?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Everybody plays SIMS. A lot of people have never played
SIMS one time. I have an entire natural right, not
one time?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are you interesting? Doesn't interest me? Not at all, not
even not curious.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Never thought to myself, Hey, let me sit down and partake,
you know, with everyone else who's playing SIMS.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, listen, it could be worse. You could be You
could be the Arizona Cardinals. Because the Arizona Cardinals, oh no,
have got diaper fire written all over there. No twenty
twenty three season. Oh no, Here is the the latest
on the Arizona Cardinals and their quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So Kyler Murray will not be.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Activated off the pup list before the deadline coming up
later on today, So he will miss a minimum of
four games this upcoming season. So you're thinking to yourself, Okay,
well they got Colt McCoy, No, not anymore. Colt McCoy
was released. Apparently he had a a a bad camp.
He struggled a little bit so Colt McCoy's gone, so
that leaves Josh Dobbs, who they just traded for, and
(06:20):
Clayton Tune who's a fifth round draft pick out of
Houston to start the season coming up against the Chance.
Now here's here's the good news. The Washington Commanders start
off their season with a bye week, so all is uh,
you know, another game ball is going to go out
to the brand new owner, Josh Harris because they're playing
(06:42):
the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Who has Josh Dobbs, right yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Or Clayton Tune or Clayton too yeah, you know, which
just sounds like he should be singing in a country bar.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And now he really does sound like he should be singing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
You know, hey guys, Tuesday night at eight o'clock, Clayton
Tune at the Banjo with a with a half hour
set as we get you set for a busy weekend
here in.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Nashville the heart Rock.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah all right, yeah, and uh so that's where the
Arizona Cardinals are. When it comes to the quarterback, can
I be honest with you, Yeah, I hadn't even thought
about who was going to start a quarterback for the
Arizona Cardinals, saying, I swear it's almost like one of
those because you just knew, oh, they're going to be bad.
So what does it matter? I think you don't.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
You can't relate to this because you're an athlete. So
you've been able to dunk a basket. Be no, no,
this is but I'm making a point here that's going
to be very relatable to ninety nine percent of the
audience listening. Okay, you've always been able to dunk a
basketball since sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
There's a certain point in time where if you're like
me and you're a non athlete, you walk by a
basketball hoop and you no longer wonder, hey.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Can I do that?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You just sort of accept the reality that is, oh yeah,
that's not happening. That's just not I'm like that now. Okay,
but imagine being like that for a significant amount of time,
like when you should be able to do it right.
And that's how I kind of feel about the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It just got to the point this offseason where I
didn't even consider who they're just going to start a
quarterback for him. I was just thinking to myself, Oh,
they're going to be terrible. So what does it matter? Right,
they're so bad now, Jonathan Gannon says. The reason that
he is not decided on a starting quarterback, you know,
with the season coming up, you know it's right around
the corner.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But never mind.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
All that is because he feels like it gives them
a competitive advantage as they get ready for the year.
So your Arizona Cardinals are shaping up.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Hey, Jesse Loketta is having a great preseason, doing very well.
Defense is doing doing some pretty good things. Just you know,
we gotta save Jesse. We gotta get it out.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Of saving got save it were coming for you, Jesse,
ashag save Luketta.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We gotta get him out of there. It is.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It's not looking good there for the Arizona car Those
there off are Yeah, play quarterback here, don't do it?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
What a bad football team? You may as well start good.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Jump So what do we uh? What are we doing
in Arizona? Because there's the obvious, which would be there's
a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Of other things to get into other than watching football
and playing football there, so you know, maybe they'll pick
up another hobby.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's true, you know that is that is true.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Arizona that you know, the temperature should start to go
down now and it be a nice place to hang out.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
They got nice pool scenery. I mean like nice pools,
you know, because it's so hot there. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They great float ees, cocktails and stuff like that. Yeah,
they do. Yeah, there's a lot. We were there for
the super Bowl. There's a lot on.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
There's a lot going on. I mean, waste management and
the Super Bowl were going on at the same time
in Arizona. I mean, don't don't think for two seconds.
Arizona doesn't give you options even if the football team
isn't all that good. In fact, the football team doesn't
even play in Arizona. In Phoenix or in Scottsdale. They
playing like Lendale, Lendal. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean the Super Bowl Week was so fire that
it also showcased the Michael Irvan Farewell Tour NFL Network,
So that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Went on during the Super Bowl Week. I was the
Farewell Tour. I apparently it was.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, but He's killing yesterday on FS one was
pretty fantastic him, Richard Sherman and Key Shawn.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
With Skip Bayless.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Just thinking to myself, Scottsdale super Bowls former Hurricane football players.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Is not a good mix.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, it's not a good mix. That hotel, in particular Scottsdale.
What wasn't Scottsdale, I don't think was it Scottsdale? I
don't think so. I was downtown.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Regardless, it's just not it's not a good mix. It's
not the you. It's the you and you and you.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And I know my boy Nick be listening shouts out
to Nick. Wow, he's a big time Miami supporter. And
that's not a dig. I'm just saying it's just maybe coincidental,
just a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Now, there's a conspiracy theory out there. Okay, all right,
So do we have.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Any conspiracy theory music here, any unsolved mysteries music as
we get set for a conspiracy that is being thrown
around when it comes to this situation in Arizona, because
you would assume Colt McCoy would be the obvious choice
with Kyler Murray missing time.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, the conspiracy is, what's the conspiracy that maybe.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
They're not all that upset if they happen to be
the worst team in the league and they're picking number
one overall in the draft. You know, maybe the Arizona
Cardinals look at it and go, yeah, we understand Clayton
Tune and Josh Dobbs don't have anybody's engine as far
as optimism goes when it comes to the season and
(12:02):
the season outlook. But Caleb Williams is pretty good, pretty good,
and so maybe we'd like to put ourselves in a
situation in an advantageous one where we could potentially take
the next Andrew luck or John Elway or Trevor Lawrence
as he showcased to start off the year with what
what he do for touchdown passes or whatever it was.
(12:24):
Caleb Williams defending Heisman Trophy winner. So there is that
out there that people think that this could be a
long term strategy to land ourselves one Caleb Williams in
Arizona well and move on from Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Here's what I would say to that.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know, if Michael Bitwill were to die today or
you know, Kyler Murray weren't able to play and ever again,
you know, life goes on, right. You know, they're going
to keep playing football in Arizona. The Cardinals are going
to continue to play football, whether it's any other quarterback,
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whether it's Caleb Williams, it's just it just doesn't matter.
Just the game does not stop. And and so for
what it's worth, get ready for whoever it is that's
going to be the quarterback this year. And if there
were to be a circumstance that plays out by happy stance,
they are able to get Caleb Williams to.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Come to.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Arizona with the number one draft pick in the NFL Draft,
it still doesn't matter, you know, because the game is
going to continue on. I just thought i'd make that
very good clear. That's a great point, listen. I just
thought i'd give the profound wisdom and words of one
Jim Merse and the Tree Leaners, you know, and put
(13:56):
that out there because.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
When all else fails, you could be out of the
league and it doesn't matter and we can all die tomorrow.
There you go, and everybody forget. I mean, that's just
keeping it in the proper perspective, very positive, optimistic outlook.
Jim Mercy should should have thrown that on a no
fear shirt back in the day. That would have been
a big seller.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
I could die today. Nobody cares a.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Big seller like Miller's outpost little jimrsaying he doesn't think
very highly of himself. Yeah anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
So there's so that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
If you hope that somebody would care that I died today,
you know somebody. I don't know that you would.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I would.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
You wouldn't miss the show tomorrow? Well no, okay, but
I have no life. The show goes on.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
There you go. Yeah, I have no life.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And I know this to be true because I've seen
you go through this before.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I mean, what a much more important person than me.
I got a thing about dead bodies. Yeah I do.
I still show up to work for some reason. Yeah,
I have no life.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
In fact, I'm not even sure if I died today,
I wouldn't show up tomorrow. Like I I'd have somebody
taxidermy me into the studio and just put a mic
in front of.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
My Patrick Swayze up in this Bad Boy Something, Get
Whoopee in here?
Speaker 4 (15:08):
LaVar would be like Last Dance with Mary Jane. He
would just carry me into the studio.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
I started listening, I started seeing seeing headphones move. You
know how they top Todd, Patrick Swavey how to concentrate?
All right, So you'd be picking up your headphones like
Jonas is really here today?
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What's good? JOHNI.
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Speaker 4 (16:40):
It feels like, uh oh, we are entering the final
stretch of the Jim Harbaugh experience at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Uh Oh.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Jim Harbaugh who will be suspended the first three games
of this upcoming season. He's got a bunch of different
assistants who are going to be filling in form for
to be exact, He's got his dad as part of
the staff. This is all going back to the COVID
violations for Jim Harbaugh, not the cheeseburger that he purchased
for a player reportedly, uh oh, and the fact that
(17:13):
they had a deal done with the NCAA and then
all of a sudden, the NCAA backed out of the
deal the last minute, and so then Michigan had to
self impose this three game suspension. And so Jim Harbaugh
opened up his press conference yesterday and decided, now's the
time that I'm going to go ahead and air out.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The NCAA for what I feel is an.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Unfair and non existent revenue split with the players. And
so let's take a listen to the Michigan head coach.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
I want them to be treated with respect and the
dignity that they deserve.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
What I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
It's how the NCAA, television networks, conferences, universities, and coaches
can continue to pull in millions, in some cases billions
of dollars in revenue off the efforts of college student
athletes across the country without providing enough opportunity to share
in the ever increasing revenues. In my opinion, that we
(18:15):
capitalize on the talent for sure, pay the talent for
their contributions to the body line.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I'm calling for a system that's.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Fair, equitable and benefits all involved. Don't exclude the student
athletes from the profits. I can't say you're about diversity,
equity and inclusion if you aren't willing to conclude the
student athletes and revenue share it.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We have to try to make it work, and we do.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
We have to try to make it work, and we
have to try to make it better and working out.
The current status quo is unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It won't survive.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
There's your Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh letting it know
that he is not happy with the current setup of
the NCAAA and the non existent revenue split with the
players there in college football.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I just always find myself like here, so I've learned
a lot about collectives and how the collectives are being
put in place to be able to help monetize the
schools and pay the players. Now, there's there's a couple
of ways to go about paying the players. One way
(19:29):
is through nonprofit deals that are done. So you do
a deal with the collective, does a deal with the player,
the player gets paid X amount of dollars, and that
X amount of dollars is basically paid through a five
oh one C three which is a nonprofit, non taxable,
(19:49):
you know entity. And so when you do that, you're
you're now talking about donations are the way that you're
able to, you know, compensate these players by them doing
their their appearances and different things like that. I always
just find myself curious when you get a coach of
(20:12):
the magnitude of a Harball and they start talking and
preaching about things like that. I just wonder are they
putting their money where their mouths are? Because Jim Harball
makes about how much a year, nine ten million, Yeah
something like that. Yeah, well why not donate six million
(20:34):
of that or you know, after, you know, before after
I don't know, why don't you donate six million to
your collective. Then you put six million into the collect Now,
I don't know if it's legal.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
He's actually I'm seeing a little over seven million a year.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I don't know if it's legal or not. I guess
you would have to check the rules. But I can't
see how there would be an issue with you donating
to a charitable foundation. So take half of your paycheck.
Because I always said, it's so funny to me when
you hear these coaches talking crazy about how players should
be paid and trying to kind of, you know, entice
(21:14):
the general public to buy into what it is that
they seem to be, which is an advocate that's being
outspoken about the politics and the policies that surround how players.
You know, players are compensated moving forward. But I would
just be curious as to if you're allowed to donate
(21:36):
money and if you're allowed to donate money to nonprofit charities,
Like if if Jim Harball wanted to give five million
dollars to make a wish, what would be stopping him
from being able to give five million dollars to.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Make a wish? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So if you gave five million dollars to make a wish,
and five five million dollars is being used towards benefiting
kids that are in Make a Wish, Then you did
something amazing if you donated to a nonprofit that is
benefiting your college athletes, and those college athletes are getting
(22:15):
paid to go to those Make a Wish Foundation situations,
Spend time with those kids or special Olympics, Spend time
with those kids. Do camps for these kids, go sit
in the hospital rooms with these kids. Give your money,
put your put your money where where where you're putting
your criticisms, and you're putting your and listen to me.
(22:38):
I feel like, let's let's start there. Let's start there,
because these coaches are making a king's ransom to coach,
so donate it. Donate it to these collectives so that
they can pay the players. Donate it.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He strikes me as somebody who doesn't care if he
ends up getting canned after this season. I think he's
over college. That's what from the interview. Well, I took
the fact that he's the fact that he's choosing this
path to air out the NCAA, and it's not the
(23:14):
first time he's made comments like this, but they're in
the middle of a three game suspension for him violations
recruiting during the COVID dead period and all that, and
is you know, the first game of the season is
coming up, and he opens up the press conference with
a state on.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
College because the n is losing ground. Oh yeah, it's
losing ground, and it looks as though it's being decentralized,
right like. Everybody continues to have conversations about how these
these conferences are working to become independent of the NCAA,
you know, and and how that would look. I mean,
(23:50):
if you really think about it, the NCAA has been
pimping college athletics.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Of course, and he brings up the network TV deals,
which look all of that. I mean, those schools are
getting paid millions and millions of dollars with these TV deals.
I just I look at it almost as before he
gets out he wants to let everybody know what the
problem is, because I don't. I think he also recognizes
that as much as he complains about it, it's probably
(24:19):
not going to get changed, especially while he's in college football.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But it's going down that lane. Yeah, So you want
to be you want to be remembered as someone who
was a champion and a hero of the people.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, like I tried to tell you, Yes, I tried
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
He's talking about something that's already like that, that cracking
damn is already there. The water is already late leaking through.
Like you're not You're not the catalyst, so to but
to be connected to those conversations, which he probably will
end up being connected to those conversations.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You remember when Jim Harball was or.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
John John Jim Harvel, Yeah, you remember when he was
champion ending, you know, paying players at the college level.
And as he said this years ago, this, that and
the other. I don't I don't think he's saying that
because he's on his way out and he doesn't care
what happens. I think Hardball wants to continue to coach.
I think he probably wants to continue to coach at
(25:17):
Michigan until he gets the right opportunity at the next
level again, and then I think he'd go back to
the pros. But what I will say is is that
it is it is an interesting observation that you have kind.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Of old school, old school.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Establishments like Michigan, like institutions of what football represents, and
you have a coach that's within that within that institution,
speaking on things that are progressive and forward and and
so when you look at it from that, from that angle,
(25:56):
it just becomes an interesting conversation because how many, how
many more or coaches are going to come out and
start you know, Dion has probably made it very uncomfortable
for a lot of established coaches, of course, because he's
building a brand.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
While I will say, you know, one of my interesting
observations about Dion and some people you know probably have
noticed it and seen it. He's brought the attention and
he's he's put a lot of attention on the program,
and he's created a lot of excitement around the program.
He's brought a lot of players in, but the branding
and the influence has really all been surrounding him. He's
(26:34):
leveraging his own brand to do it. Yeah, the first
coach that's able to leverage their own brand and build
and leverage the brands of these players where it's like legitimized,
like WHOA like they're out front and how they're marketing
and advertising this school. That's going to be interesting because
(26:57):
now the conversation is going to have to shift away
from what what it looks like and appears to be
with a Dion Sanders, And it's going to go down
right down the lane of what what Harball is talking about.
If you have these players like you think about it.
You you watch a commercial going into the previews of
the game. They're not previewing the school.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They're not showing the campus of the school when they
say get ready for football Saturday, they're not. They're not
highlighting anything else other than the marquee players that are
connected to these games that are being played in and
and then once those games take place, you know what
they're doing on Sports Center and all these other sports shows,
shows like Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. You
(27:38):
find out what the biggest storyline is, the most polarizing
conversation to have, and what's out there, and you talk
about it, and it's generally usually connected to an athlete
and to a player. So you're totally driving the economics
the economy of what's going on in sports media. Sports
media is what's paying out all of these crazy dollars
(28:00):
for for these these TV deals and all that stuff,
and the players aren't making anything off of it.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And I think that part of Harbo's frustration is the
fact that the NCAA will get aggressive when it comes
to him and illegal recruiting.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Do they won't get aggressive about trying to figure out
how to pay these plays.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
And I'm with that, and I'm and I think it's
a valid point. Yes, it's very valid.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You'll you'll go beyond Like, god, man, look here, guys
were getting in trouble.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Schools were going on.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Probation because guys were trading jerseys for tattoos. Right Like,
you'll go all out have all of these investigations on
a guy swapping out an autograph jersey for for tattoo
artwork and suspend them or take games away and all
this other old mess. But when it comes down to
(28:53):
how do you figure out how to pay these players
and and how are you going to compensate them, you're
like kicking the can down, hands up, Like.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
We're pretty smart, we're a pretty smart outfit.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But you know, when it comes to stuff like that,
we just think that student athletes should just well remain students.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
You bought him a cheeseburger during the COVID dead period
three game suspension, four games.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Suspect you're you're auctioning off a Terrell Prior signed jersey
probably in the thousands. That man signs a jersey and
exchanges it for service from a tattoo artist, and you
have a problem with it. It's just the hypocrisy that
(29:35):
exists with how you're able to basically leverage the brands
of these marquee athletes that are coming into college and
the moment that it looks like they can benefit from
their own name, image and likeness.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You have a problem.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
But as long as you're leveraging their name, image and likeness,
there's no problem. You're you're leveraging their name, image and
likenesses to be able to ink deals that are crazy
million dollar deals. You're marketing and advertising these brands to
sell tickets, and you're not just putting like, oh, one
(30:14):
hundred and seven thousand, one hundred and eighteen thousand, like
ninety thousand like You're leveraging the brands of these these
athletes to sell the tickets and sell out your shows.
But there's a problem with paying them. There's a problem
with compensating.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And it's the most popular college football's ever been. I mean,
it's overtaken the NBA. It's now clearly the number two
sport behind the NFL. And depending on who you asked,
there's some people that prefer college football to the NFL.
And still you've got the same tired model, all right,
business one, and.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Then you you're going to protect that to the end.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And so you might as well have somebody like Harball
who wants to try to further solidify their legacy by
saying he was a progressive thinker, he was pro player,
he was pro family and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you
know that that's where this is going anyway, So you
get out in front of it like, oh, you take
a little bit of heat, but you already suspend it anyway,
(31:13):
so you know.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But I'm not saying he's wrong. No, he's not wrong.
I'm not saying he's wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
No, he's one hundred percent correct. And tis the uh
tis the season for people to point this stuff out,
and Harbaugh apparently is letting it fly here and what
could be his swan song as Michigan head coach.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
Kelly Stafford, the wife of Matt Stafford, says he's got
a problem ocause he can't really connect with his teammates.
Let's take a listen to Matt Stafford's wife vent about
these struggles with communication between her husband, the starting quarterback
of the Rams, and the rest of his teammates.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
It's kind of crazy. So Matthew's been in the league
a long time, right, We've been talking about this. He's like,
the difference in the locker room has changed so significantly.
And they have a lot of rookies on their team
this year. They're very young, so it will have a
very interesting season. You know, they're young, they're learning. But
He's like, I feel like I can't connect because in
(32:27):
the old days, you would come out of come out
of practice, you'd shower this during training camp shower, people
would be playing cards, people would be interacting. Who knows
what they're doing? He said. Now they get done with
practice or get done with meetings during training camp and
they go straight to their phones. So Matthews like, I
don't even know how to do.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Am I the dad?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Do I take the phones, like what do I do here?
I mean there, And he's like, I want them to
see me as like, not as like a he's like
as a coach.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
He feels like they say, like sort of him. He's like, no, no, no,
we're on the same level here. We're both playing in
this league. Like, let me get to know you.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I mean, he's an older guy in the league, and
I gotta be honest with you. As much as people
maybe aren't fans of Kelly Stafford or Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I kind of agree with him.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Why don't you put your damn phone down, unless you're
listening to this show on the iHeartRadio app or watching
our clips on YouTube. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe,
why don't you put your phone down and have a
conversation with somebody. For God's sakes, it's a problem these
kids these days.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You don't find out to be a tap bit problematic
that your wife is coming out and saying what you're
saying about them in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, definitely, of course.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I just I just feel like there's there's a devaluing
that takes place when you violate the locker room. The
locker room is your safe haven and whether whether you
use that locker room for phone usage or whatever. Like,
(34:09):
I don't I don't need any of my teammates wives
out there saying what our rituals, what what our movements
are in the locker room, like oh yeah, we're talking
camp here. Like you get into the locker room, your
shower and then you play cards. So I'm like, okay,
(34:29):
I mean, like, do we want somebody that I mean,
you don't know what we do, right, It's still it's
still you're giving secondhand information. And as a wife, it's like, okay,
if Matthew Stafford is going home and talking about not
being able to connect with us in the locker room,
(34:53):
and you're hearing his wife kind of stumble through the
topic to try to stay politically correct, and how she
presents her husband and what his you know, what his
perceived situation is that he has to solve. I'm the
first thing I'm thinking, as one of his teammates, is
what else is this cat talking about with his wife?
(35:16):
He wanted them pillow pillow talk type dudes.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, it seems like a less an ideal situation for
matt stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I'm looking at Matthew Stafford like, bruh, you like you
kind of like a bedroom snitch.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Like there was so one of the pieces of the
clip that we didn't hear, but she said that matt
Stafford had to go to the trainer or somebody on
the staff to have them print out a list of
the names of all the guys on the team so
that he could get to know them and be able
to have a conversation with them, because it was so
(35:53):
difficult to try and pin anybody down to try and
get together. She also pointed out that they wanted to
have some sort of an event, We're gonna watch one
of Messi's games, but that there was the you know,
the tropical storm or whatever we dealt with a couple
of weeks ago, so they had some flooding so they
couldn't have the event there, but that in Detroit they
would always have little events, but that she recommended the
(36:14):
Rams put together some of these events so you could
get to know each other. So let me just let
me this is just friendly advice from Kelly Stafford.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know, I just I just think when unless you
have like a super well respected, well connected wife, it's
probably best to stay away from topics such as the
locker room or your husband's ability to communicate, Like the
(36:45):
bottom line is whether they're a rookie or whether they're not.
They're still pros and and she alluded to it like
they're equals, Like I don't give a flip what her
husband may or may not think about how they handle things.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Those are still rose.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I mean, Matt Stafford's made over three hundred million dollars
in his career. For three hundred million dollars in your career,
my teammates could make armpit fart noises to communicate with
me for seventeen or eighteen weeks a season.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And I'll gladly take it.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Just comes across at it just sounds like your husband's
being a whino to you, Like, Babe, can you fix
my plan? Can you get me a glass of water
with ice?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Please? Eh? I had a rough day to day. What's wrong? Eh?
I just can't see him to connect with the guys.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't feel like I don't feel like we're we're
on the same babe.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Well, in fairness, Cooper cub does look amish, so maybe
there's I mean, he wouldn't be one of those guys
like Besty. Yeah, I mean he wouldn't have that would
be wouldn't be one of the guys you'd have a
problem with because they don't believe in technology, so he'll
be fine.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I just feel like they're setting up the excuse as
to why he's not going to do well if you
want to like cut it down to its bearest, the
bare minimums. Why does the wife come out and say
some stuff like that, like, of course he couldn't have
success with these young guys. They can't even communicate with them.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Setting the table for the crap sandwich.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Set the table, Yeah, like he can't. He can't even
communicate with them. Like these guys are on their phones.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
They're not in the showers hanging out with one another
talking to each other, bucking naked while while they get
clean using Irish springs and then going and playing cards.
They don't talk to each other at all. They just
go right into the facility, go into the locker room
and get on their phones. I mean, if they're looking
for else with my husband, have have success with guys
like this that are phone zombies?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I mean, like
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with LaVar arrings, Rating Win and Jonas Knox on
Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How that we feel here on a Tuesday morning.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good morning, Jonas, good morning, Good morning guys, Good morning
everyone out there.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
By the way, I believe the the studio camera, uh
is not pointed in the correct direction.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
It's just pointed at me. Why isn't it pointed out
all of us? It's just pointed at me. I feel
LeVar is the like I'd be an interrogator.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
So there's there's a camera in studio here that we
use for some clips on YouTube and some of the
stuff that goes out video wise on social media.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
And they really like LeVar.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
But that's going to be ten dollars for you, though,
because when you kind of a passive aggressive way of
you saying, come me talking, come change the come change
the camera angle. No, listen, I just stop saying it.
I mean, you're the you're the star of the show.
Clearly stop. You know they're they're they're folks. That'd be
ten dollars. You're up to twenty.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Dollars, twenty bucks.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Hey, I was outside, I was outside making my mocha,
my mocha drinking. I was out there laying land mines
for for Lee and Lee isn't even in today, And
while while I was putting one, you know, in position,
Eddie came out and I felt really bad.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
He did walk into the cloud.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
He did. He did, I really and and it was
like I was laughing to myself. I was, I was like, really,
like this is a good Lee. First of all, Lee's
not even hair. And then secondly, Eddie walked out at
like the peak horribleness of that moment in time. So Eddie,
I'm sorry. I want to offer this apology to you
(01:51):
in front of the entire world. I'm sorry for land
minding you. I thought it would have been Lee. I
heard a door close. I was like, here comes Lee.
I got him and it was Eddie and I felt
really bad.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Well, first of all, it's okay, LeVar, I don't need
a couple of coffee. Now wide awake, now, yeah. Help.
I walked out the studio door and and I heard
something and I'm like, well, that's Lee. And then I
remember it's not working today, so.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
I got to see it for several days straight. The Lee.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Just go when you gotta go drop it when you
gotta drop it with no regard for any human life
around until you do it on the airplane, oh, airplane
in a mar just out and about okay, but come on,
we got out of the uber to get to the
airport in Dublin and he says to me, sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm like, sorry about oh and it just hit your fall.
Your mouth was open speaking. Come on, I thought it
was exhaust from the Irish. It was not. It was Lee's.
It was yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Lee left the back porch door open, and just everybody
got it.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It was foul. He is a foul human beings, so.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It looks like a nasty stinker though. He just has
the nasty stinker look.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, he just lets it fly and not here to
be held accountable for a little revenge from from LeVar
to start off the day, I was trying to get him.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I was trying to get him.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was it was a joke that hasn't you know,
played out since the departure of the other one that
was involved.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Alberto, Yeah, shouts out the Burdo.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Man. We miss you, buddy. Yeah, you know, but I
was just having a moment. Obviously you had walked into
my my pre my pre show h conversation and my
business it was it was interesting and and so you
know my belly let one go or it fell, didn't
I went a hit And it's like, let me get
(04:02):
Lee and didn't even know Lee wasn't you know?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
This is this is why we're professionals. There you go,
we do.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
You know the great thing about radio talk radio is
it so therapeutic. You know, it's like you can just
talk your way through things and just move on from it. Yeah,
and you get to talk to people out there. They
get to listen because they go through the same type
of stuff you're going through. So it's pretty cool man,
pretty relatable too. Oh you'll heir. Throughout the show, I
(04:29):
will be venting and and doing some very very much
necessary therapy during the course of this show.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Listen.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
You know, we uh, we build this show, we put
it together. It's almost like we're playing SIMS and just
there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Of just the way that we're able to oh wow,
oh wow.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
No, it's just get intensified. You might we might need
to dump that. We might need to dump that. I mean,
who out there knows about SIMS though? Come on, who
doesn't know about SIMS. Everybody played it. Somebody knows about
Is that like a dude's game. No, it's like, uh.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Oh, it's like it's like an everybody game.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Is it an everybody game?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Everybody plays SIMS. A lot of people have never played
SIMS one time. I have an entire natural right, not
one time?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Are you interesting? Doesn't interest me? Not at all, not
even not curious.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Never thought to myself, Hey, let me sit down and partake,
you know, with everyone else who's playing SIMS.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, listen, it could be worse. You could be You
could be the Arizona Cardinals. Because the Arizona Cardinals, oh no,
have got diaper fire written all over there. No twenty
twenty three season. Oh no, Here is the the latest
on the Arizona Cardinals and their quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So Kyler Murray will not be.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Activated off the pup list before the deadline coming up
later on today, So he will miss a minimum of
four games this upcoming season. So you're thinking to yourself, Okay,
well they got Colt McCoy, No, not anymore. Colt McCoy
was released. Apparently he had a a a bad camp.
He struggled a little bit so Colt McCoy's gone, so
that leaves Josh Dobbs, who they just traded for, and
(06:20):
Clayton Tune who's a fifth round draft pick out of
Houston to start the season coming up against the Chance.
Now here's here's the good news. The Washington Commanders start
off their season with a bye week, so all is uh,
you know, another game ball is going to go out
to the brand new owner, Josh Harris because they're playing
(06:42):
the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Who has Josh Dobbs, right yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Or Clayton Tune or Clayton too yeah, you know, which
just sounds like he should be singing in a country bar.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And now he really does sound like he should be singing.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
You know, hey guys, Tuesday night at eight o'clock, Clayton
Tune at the Banjo with a with a half hour
set as we get you set for a busy weekend
here in.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Nashville the heart Rock.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah all right, yeah, and uh so that's where the
Arizona Cardinals are. When it comes to the quarterback, can
I be honest with you, Yeah, I hadn't even thought
about who was going to start a quarterback for the
Arizona Cardinals, saying, I swear it's almost like one of
those because you just knew, oh, they're going to be bad.
So what does it matter? I think you don't.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
You don't.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
You can't relate to this because you're an athlete. So
you've been able to dunk a basket. Be no, no,
this is but I'm making a point here that's going
to be very relatable to ninety nine percent of the
audience listening. Okay, you've always been able to dunk a
basketball since sixth grade.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
There's a certain point in time where if you're like
me and you're a non athlete, you walk by a
basketball hoop and you no longer wonder, hey.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Can I do that?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You just sort of accept the reality that is, oh yeah,
that's not happening. That's just not I'm like that now. Okay,
but imagine being like that for a significant amount of time,
like when you should be able to do it right.
And that's how I kind of feel about the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
It just got to the point this offseason where I
didn't even consider who they're just going to start a
quarterback for him. I was just thinking to myself, Oh,
they're going to be terrible. So what does it matter? Right,
they're so bad now, Jonathan Gannon says. The reason that
he is not decided on a starting quarterback, you know,
with the season coming up, you know it's right around
the corner.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But never mind.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
All that is because he feels like it gives them
a competitive advantage as they get ready for the year.
So your Arizona Cardinals are shaping up.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Hey, Jesse Loketta is having a great preseason, doing very well.
Defense is doing doing some pretty good things. Just you know,
we gotta save Jesse. We gotta get it out.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Of saving got save it were coming for you, Jesse,
ashag save Luketta.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
We gotta get him out of there. It is.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
It's not looking good there for the Arizona car Those
there off are Yeah, play quarterback here, don't do it?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
What a bad football team? You may as well start good.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Jump So what do we uh? What are we doing
in Arizona? Because there's the obvious, which would be there's
a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Of other things to get into other than watching football
and playing football there, so you know, maybe they'll pick
up another hobby.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's true, you know that is that is true.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Arizona that you know, the temperature should start to go
down now and it be a nice place to hang out.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
They got nice pool scenery. I mean like nice pools,
you know, because it's so hot there. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
They great float ees, cocktails and stuff like that. Yeah,
they do. Yeah, there's a lot. We were there for
the super Bowl. There's a lot on.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
There's a lot going on. I mean, waste management and
the Super Bowl were going on at the same time
in Arizona. I mean, don't don't think for two seconds.
Arizona doesn't give you options even if the football team
isn't all that good. In fact, the football team doesn't
even play in Arizona. In Phoenix or in Scottsdale. They
playing like Lendale, Lendal. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean the Super Bowl Week was so fire that
it also showcased the Michael Irvan Farewell Tour NFL Network,
So that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Went on during the Super Bowl Week. I was the
Farewell Tour. I apparently it was.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
You know, but He's killing yesterday on FS one was
pretty fantastic him, Richard Sherman and Key Shawn.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
With Skip Bayless.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Just thinking to myself, Scottsdale super Bowls former Hurricane football players.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Is not a good mix.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, it's not a good mix. That hotel, in particular Scottsdale.
What wasn't Scottsdale, I don't think was it Scottsdale? I
don't think so. I was downtown.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Regardless, it's just not it's not a good mix. It's
not the you. It's the you and you and you.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
And I know my boy Nick be listening shouts out
to Nick. Wow, he's a big time Miami supporter. And
that's not a dig. I'm just saying it's just maybe coincidental,
just a lot of similarities there.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Now, there's a conspiracy theory out there. Okay, all right,
So do we have.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Any conspiracy theory music here, any unsolved mysteries music as
we get set for a conspiracy that is being thrown
around when it comes to this situation in Arizona, because
you would assume Colt McCoy would be the obvious choice
with Kyler Murray missing time.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Okay, the conspiracy is, what's the conspiracy that maybe.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
They're not all that upset if they happen to be
the worst team in the league and they're picking number
one overall in the draft. You know, maybe the Arizona
Cardinals look at it and go, yeah, we understand Clayton
Tune and Josh Dobbs don't have anybody's engine as far
as optimism goes when it comes to the season and
(12:02):
the season outlook. But Caleb Williams is pretty good, pretty good,
and so maybe we'd like to put ourselves in a
situation in an advantageous one where we could potentially take
the next Andrew luck or John Elway or Trevor Lawrence
as he showcased to start off the year with what
what he do for touchdown passes or whatever it was.
(12:24):
Caleb Williams defending Heisman Trophy winner. So there is that
out there that people think that this could be a
long term strategy to land ourselves one Caleb Williams in
Arizona well and move on from Kyler Murray.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Here's what I would say to that.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You know, if Michael Bitwill were to die today or
you know, Kyler Murray weren't able to play and ever again,
you know, life goes on, right. You know, they're going
to keep playing football in Arizona. The Cardinals are going
to continue to play football, whether it's any other quarterback,
(13:09):
whether it's Caleb Williams, it's just it just doesn't matter.
Just the game does not stop. And and so for
what it's worth, get ready for whoever it is that's
going to be the quarterback this year. And if there
were to be a circumstance that plays out by happy stance,
they are able to get Caleb Williams to.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Come to.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Arizona with the number one draft pick in the NFL Draft,
it still doesn't matter, you know, because the game is
going to continue on. I just thought i'd make that
very good clear. That's a great point, listen. I just
thought i'd give the profound wisdom and words of one
Jim Merse and the Tree Leaners, you know, and put
(13:56):
that out there because.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
When all else fails, you could be out of the
league and it doesn't matter and we can all die tomorrow.
There you go, and everybody forget. I mean, that's just
keeping it in the proper perspective, very positive, optimistic outlook.
Jim Mercy should should have thrown that on a no
fear shirt back in the day. That would have been
a big seller.
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Big seller like Miller's outpost little jimrsaying he doesn't think
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You wouldn't miss the show tomorrow? Well no, okay, but
I have no life. The show goes on.
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There you go. Yeah, I have no life.
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And I know this to be true because I've seen
you go through this before.
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I got a thing about dead bodies. Yeah I do.
I still show up to work for some reason. Yeah,
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Speaker 4 (16:40):
It feels like, uh oh, we are entering the final
stretch of the Jim Harbaugh experience at Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Uh Oh.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Jim Harbaugh who will be suspended the first three games
of this upcoming season. He's got a bunch of different
assistants who are going to be filling in form for
to be exact, He's got his dad as part of
the staff. This is all going back to the COVID
violations for Jim Harbaugh, not the cheeseburger that he purchased
for a player reportedly, uh oh, and the fact that
(17:13):
they had a deal done with the NCAA and then
all of a sudden, the NCAA backed out of the
deal the last minute, and so then Michigan had to
self impose this three game suspension. And so Jim Harbaugh
opened up his press conference yesterday and decided, now's the
time that I'm going to go ahead and air out.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
The NCAA for what I feel is an.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Unfair and non existent revenue split with the players. And
so let's take a listen to the Michigan head coach.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
I want them to be treated with respect and the
dignity that they deserve.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
What I don't understand.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
It's how the NCAA, television networks, conferences, universities, and coaches
can continue to pull in millions, in some cases billions
of dollars in revenue off the efforts of college student
athletes across the country without providing enough opportunity to share
in the ever increasing revenues. In my opinion, that we
(18:15):
capitalize on the talent for sure, pay the talent for
their contributions to the body line.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I'm calling for a system that's.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Fair, equitable and benefits all involved. Don't exclude the student
athletes from the profits. I can't say you're about diversity,
equity and inclusion if you aren't willing to conclude the
student athletes and revenue share it.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We have to try to make it work, and we do.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
We have to try to make it work, and we
have to try to make it better and working out.
The current status quo is unacceptable.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It won't survive.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
There's your Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh letting it know
that he is not happy with the current setup of
the NCAAA and the non existent revenue split with the
players there in college football.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
I just always find myself like here, so I've learned
a lot about collectives and how the collectives are being
put in place to be able to help monetize the
schools and pay the players. Now, there's there's a couple
of ways to go about paying the players. One way
(19:29):
is through nonprofit deals that are done. So you do
a deal with the collective, does a deal with the player,
the player gets paid X amount of dollars, and that
X amount of dollars is basically paid through a five
oh one C three which is a nonprofit, non taxable,
(19:49):
you know entity. And so when you do that, you're
you're now talking about donations are the way that you're
able to, you know, compensate these players by them doing
their their appearances and different things like that. I always
just find myself curious when you get a coach of
(20:12):
the magnitude of a Harball and they start talking and
preaching about things like that. I just wonder are they
putting their money where their mouths are? Because Jim Harball
makes about how much a year, nine ten million, Yeah
something like that. Yeah, well why not donate six million
(20:34):
of that or you know, after, you know, before after
I don't know, why don't you donate six million to
your collective. Then you put six million into the collect Now,
I don't know if it's legal.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
He's actually I'm seeing a little over seven million a year.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
I don't know if it's legal or not. I guess
you would have to check the rules. But I can't
see how there would be an issue with you donating
to a charitable foundation. So take half of your paycheck.
Because I always said, it's so funny to me when
you hear these coaches talking crazy about how players should
be paid and trying to kind of, you know, entice
(21:14):
the general public to buy into what it is that
they seem to be, which is an advocate that's being
outspoken about the politics and the policies that surround how players.
You know, players are compensated moving forward. But I would
just be curious as to if you're allowed to donate
(21:36):
money and if you're allowed to donate money to nonprofit charities,
Like if if Jim Harball wanted to give five million
dollars to make a wish, what would be stopping him
from being able to give five million dollars to.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Make a wish? Nothing?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
So if you gave five million dollars to make a wish,
and five five million dollars is being used towards benefiting
kids that are in Make a Wish, Then you did
something amazing if you donated to a nonprofit that is
benefiting your college athletes, and those college athletes are getting
(22:15):
paid to go to those Make a Wish Foundation situations,
Spend time with those kids or special Olympics, Spend time
with those kids. Do camps for these kids, go sit
in the hospital rooms with these kids. Give your money,
put your put your money where where where you're putting
your criticisms, and you're putting your and listen to me.
(22:38):
I feel like, let's let's start there. Let's start there,
because these coaches are making a king's ransom to coach,
so donate it. Donate it to these collectives so that
they can pay the players. Donate it.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He strikes me as somebody who doesn't care if he
ends up getting canned after this season. I think he's
over college. That's what from the interview. Well, I took
the fact that he's the fact that he's choosing this
path to air out the NCAA, and it's not the
(23:14):
first time he's made comments like this, but they're in
the middle of a three game suspension for him violations
recruiting during the COVID dead period and all that, and
is you know, the first game of the season is
coming up, and he opens up the press conference with
a state on.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
College because the n is losing ground. Oh yeah, it's
losing ground, and it looks as though it's being decentralized,
right like. Everybody continues to have conversations about how these
these conferences are working to become independent of the NCAA,
you know, and and how that would look. I mean,
(23:50):
if you really think about it, the NCAA has been
pimping college athletics.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Of course, and he brings up the network TV deals,
which look all of that. I mean, those schools are
getting paid millions and millions of dollars with these TV deals.
I just I look at it almost as before he
gets out he wants to let everybody know what the
problem is, because I don't. I think he also recognizes
that as much as he complains about it, it's probably
(24:19):
not going to get changed, especially while he's in college football.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But it's going down that lane. Yeah, So you want
to be you want to be remembered as someone who
was a champion and a hero of the people.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, like I tried to tell you, Yes, I tried
to tell you.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
He's talking about something that's already like that, that cracking
damn is already there. The water is already late leaking through.
Like you're not You're not the catalyst, so to but
to be connected to those conversations, which he probably will
end up being connected to those conversations.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
You remember when Jim Harball was or.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
John John Jim Harvel, Yeah, you remember when he was
champion ending, you know, paying players at the college level.
And as he said this years ago, this, that and
the other. I don't I don't think he's saying that
because he's on his way out and he doesn't care
what happens. I think Hardball wants to continue to coach.
I think he probably wants to continue to coach at
(25:17):
Michigan until he gets the right opportunity at the next
level again, and then I think he'd go back to
the pros. But what I will say is is that
it is it is an interesting observation that you have kind.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Of old school, old school.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Establishments like Michigan, like institutions of what football represents, and
you have a coach that's within that within that institution,
speaking on things that are progressive and forward and and
so when you look at it from that, from that angle,
(25:56):
it just becomes an interesting conversation because how many, how
many more or coaches are going to come out and
start you know, Dion has probably made it very uncomfortable
for a lot of established coaches, of course, because he's
building a brand.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
While I will say, you know, one of my interesting
observations about Dion and some people you know probably have
noticed it and seen it. He's brought the attention and
he's he's put a lot of attention on the program,
and he's created a lot of excitement around the program.
He's brought a lot of players in, but the branding
and the influence has really all been surrounding him. He's
(26:34):
leveraging his own brand to do it. Yeah, the first
coach that's able to leverage their own brand and build
and leverage the brands of these players where it's like legitimized,
like WHOA like they're out front and how they're marketing
and advertising this school. That's going to be interesting because
(26:57):
now the conversation is going to have to shift away
from what what it looks like and appears to be
with a Dion Sanders, And it's going to go down
right down the lane of what what Harball is talking about.
If you have these players like you think about it.
You you watch a commercial going into the previews of
the game. They're not previewing the school.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
They're not showing the campus of the school when they
say get ready for football Saturday, they're not. They're not
highlighting anything else other than the marquee players that are
connected to these games that are being played in and
and then once those games take place, you know what
they're doing on Sports Center and all these other sports shows,
shows like Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. You
(27:38):
find out what the biggest storyline is, the most polarizing
conversation to have, and what's out there, and you talk
about it, and it's generally usually connected to an athlete
and to a player. So you're totally driving the economics
the economy of what's going on in sports media. Sports
media is what's paying out all of these crazy dollars
(28:00):
for for these these TV deals and all that stuff,
and the players aren't making anything off of it.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And I think that part of Harbo's frustration is the
fact that the NCAA will get aggressive when it comes
to him and illegal recruiting.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Do they won't get aggressive about trying to figure out
how to pay these plays.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
And I'm with that, and I'm and I think it's
a valid point. Yes, it's very valid.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
You'll you'll go beyond Like, god, man, look here, guys
were getting in trouble.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Schools were going on.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Probation because guys were trading jerseys for tattoos. Right Like,
you'll go all out have all of these investigations on
a guy swapping out an autograph jersey for for tattoo
artwork and suspend them or take games away and all
this other old mess. But when it comes down to
(28:53):
how do you figure out how to pay these players
and and how are you going to compensate them, you're
like kicking the can down, hands up, Like.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
We're pretty smart, we're a pretty smart outfit.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
But you know, when it comes to stuff like that,
we just think that student athletes should just well remain students.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
You bought him a cheeseburger during the COVID dead period
three game suspension, four games.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Suspect you're you're auctioning off a Terrell Prior signed jersey
probably in the thousands. That man signs a jersey and
exchanges it for service from a tattoo artist, and you
have a problem with it. It's just the hypocrisy that
(29:35):
exists with how you're able to basically leverage the brands
of these marquee athletes that are coming into college and
the moment that it looks like they can benefit from
their own name, image and likeness.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
You have a problem.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
But as long as you're leveraging their name, image and likeness,
there's no problem. You're you're leveraging their name, image and
likenesses to be able to ink deals that are crazy
million dollar deals. You're marketing and advertising these brands to
sell tickets, and you're not just putting like, oh, one
(30:14):
hundred and seven thousand, one hundred and eighteen thousand, like
ninety thousand like You're leveraging the brands of these these
athletes to sell the tickets and sell out your shows.
But there's a problem with paying them. There's a problem
with compensating.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
And it's the most popular college football's ever been. I mean,
it's overtaken the NBA. It's now clearly the number two
sport behind the NFL. And depending on who you asked,
there's some people that prefer college football to the NFL.
And still you've got the same tired model, all right,
business one, and.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Then you you're going to protect that to the end.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And so you might as well have somebody like Harball
who wants to try to further solidify their legacy by
saying he was a progressive thinker, he was pro player,
he was pro family and stuff like that. Meanwhile, you
know that that's where this is going anyway, So you
get out in front of it like, oh, you take
a little bit of heat, but you already suspend it anyway,
(31:13):
so you know.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
But I'm not saying he's wrong. No, he's not wrong.
I'm not saying he's wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
No, he's one hundred percent correct. And tis the uh
tis the season for people to point this stuff out,
and Harbaugh apparently is letting it fly here and what
could be his swan song as Michigan head coach.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
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Speaker 4 (31:45):
Kelly Stafford, the wife of Matt Stafford, says he's got
a problem ocause he can't really connect with his teammates.
Let's take a listen to Matt Stafford's wife vent about
these struggles with communication between her husband, the starting quarterback
of the Rams, and the rest of his teammates.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
It's kind of crazy. So Matthew's been in the league
a long time, right, We've been talking about this. He's like,
the difference in the locker room has changed so significantly.
And they have a lot of rookies on their team
this year. They're very young, so it will have a
very interesting season. You know, they're young, they're learning. But
He's like, I feel like I can't connect because in
(32:27):
the old days, you would come out of come out
of practice, you'd shower this during training camp shower, people
would be playing cards, people would be interacting. Who knows
what they're doing? He said. Now they get done with
practice or get done with meetings during training camp and
they go straight to their phones. So Matthews like, I
don't even know how to do.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Am I the dad?
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Do I take the phones, like what do I do here?
I mean there, And he's like, I want them to
see me as like, not as like a he's like
as a coach.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
You know.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
He feels like they say, like sort of him. He's like, no, no, no,
we're on the same level here. We're both playing in
this league. Like, let me get to know you.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I mean, he's an older guy in the league, and
I gotta be honest with you. As much as people
maybe aren't fans of Kelly Stafford or Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I kind of agree with him.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Why don't you put your damn phone down, unless you're
listening to this show on the iHeartRadio app or watching
our clips on YouTube. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe,
why don't you put your phone down and have a
conversation with somebody. For God's sakes, it's a problem these
kids these days.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
You don't find out to be a tap bit problematic
that your wife is coming out and saying what you're
saying about them in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, definitely, of course.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
I just I just feel like there's there's a devaluing
that takes place when you violate the locker room. The
locker room is your safe haven and whether whether you
use that locker room for phone usage or whatever. Like,
(34:09):
I don't I don't need any of my teammates wives
out there saying what our rituals, what what our movements
are in the locker room, like oh yeah, we're talking
camp here. Like you get into the locker room, your
shower and then you play cards. So I'm like, okay,
(34:29):
I mean, like, do we want somebody that I mean,
you don't know what we do, right, It's still it's
still you're giving secondhand information. And as a wife, it's like, okay,
if Matthew Stafford is going home and talking about not
being able to connect with us in the locker room,
(34:53):
and you're hearing his wife kind of stumble through the
topic to try to stay politically correct, and how she
presents her husband and what his you know, what his
perceived situation is that he has to solve. I'm the
first thing I'm thinking, as one of his teammates, is
what else is this cat talking about with his wife?
(35:16):
He wanted them pillow pillow talk type dudes.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, it seems like a less an ideal situation for
matt stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I'm looking at Matthew Stafford like, bruh, you like you
kind of like a bedroom snitch.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Like there was so one of the pieces of the
clip that we didn't hear, but she said that matt
Stafford had to go to the trainer or somebody on
the staff to have them print out a list of
the names of all the guys on the team so
that he could get to know them and be able
to have a conversation with them, because it was so
(35:53):
difficult to try and pin anybody down to try and
get together. She also pointed out that they wanted to
have some sort of an event, We're gonna watch one
of Messi's games, but that there was the you know,
the tropical storm or whatever we dealt with a couple
of weeks ago, so they had some flooding so they
couldn't have the event there, but that in Detroit they
would always have little events, but that she recommended the
(36:14):
Rams put together some of these events so you could
get to know each other. So let me just let
me this is just friendly advice from Kelly Stafford.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You know, I just I just think when unless you
have like a super well respected, well connected wife, it's
probably best to stay away from topics such as the
locker room or your husband's ability to communicate, Like the
(36:45):
bottom line is whether they're a rookie or whether they're not.
They're still pros and and she alluded to it like
they're equals, Like I don't give a flip what her
husband may or may not think about how they handle things.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Those are still rose.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I mean, Matt Stafford's made over three hundred million dollars
in his career. For three hundred million dollars in your career,
my teammates could make armpit fart noises to communicate with
me for seventeen or eighteen weeks a season.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
And I'll gladly take it.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Just comes across at it just sounds like your husband's
being a whino to you, Like, Babe, can you fix
my plan? Can you get me a glass of water
with ice?
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Please? Eh? I had a rough day to day. What's wrong? Eh?
I just can't see him to connect with the guys.
I don't.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I don't feel like I don't feel like we're we're
on the same babe.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Well, in fairness, Cooper cub does look amish, so maybe
there's I mean, he wouldn't be one of those guys
like Besty. Yeah, I mean he wouldn't have that would
be wouldn't be one of the guys you'd have a
problem with because they don't believe in technology, so he'll
be fine.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I just feel like they're setting up the excuse as
to why he's not going to do well if you
want to like cut it down to its bearest, the
bare minimums. Why does the wife come out and say
some stuff like that, like, of course he couldn't have
success with these young guys. They can't even communicate with them.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Setting the table for the crap sandwich.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Set the table, Yeah, like he can't. He can't even
communicate with them. Like these guys are on their phones.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
They're not.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
They're not in the showers hanging out with one another
talking to each other, bucking naked while while they get
clean using Irish springs and then going and playing cards.
They don't talk to each other at all. They just
go right into the facility, go into the locker room
and get on their phones. I mean, if they're looking
for else with my husband, have have success with guys
like this that are phone zombies?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I mean, like
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