August 31, 2023 • 43 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, boots are on the ground for Nebraska at Minnesota. Chronicles from the sky, from Brady and LaVar. Colts GM, Chris Ballard is obviously frustrated with the situation between Jim Irsay and Jonathan Taylor. Plus, Senior NFL Reporter, Albert Breer stops by.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Rings and Brady Win and Jonas Knox
on Boxes Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Can you get a feeling in the air. There's something
going on.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Can you smell it?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's the Labor Day extravaganza known as college football and
inundated by college football. Eighty seven college football games between
now and Monday. Good god, football, let's go.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
How excited does it make you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's just because it's it's signals that the hard part's
over and now we're off and running.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What was the hard part?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, the hard part was trying to get through discussing
NBA playing tournaments and all the other crap that was
put on the table. They do something with this.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Okay, here we got about yourself one week.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, well, you know, just saying you had help, it's over.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, you had help. What you made I didn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
By the way, if that was my if that was
my fine schedule, I would have got fined ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah that was passive aggressive, all right, listen, I don't
I was just passive. It wouldn't really.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Aggressick anybody ten bucks or anything. And at this point we.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Don't pay it anyway, none of y'all who paid it.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I don't recall.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Seeing anybody made.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Jonas knows I sent a screen grab. I made a
payment once I sent my monthly fine.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Did not make no payments.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Brother, Yes I did. I made a payment.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I give Q, I give c it.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
But yeah, I mean, I listen, I will admit it
what I got found like twice three times.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I didn't. I did not. I did not handle the
payment like I be honest, you know I did. Trust
Jonas made his donation to the D's Foundation.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I did did the D's. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
By the way, these nuts and these boots are on
the ground in Minnesota for Holiesota Nebraska Big ten to
start off your college football docket. There on a Thursday,
eight Eastern time, seven o'clock local in Minnesota, as we've
got the golfers and the Huskers Minnesota seven point favorite
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courtesy of our friends at DraftKings Brady Quinn. How excited
are you? I mean, we're talking Ireland last week, Minnesota
this week.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I was looking back through my notes too.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I'm pretty sure if I'm not mistaken, Like last three
or four matchups as well, Minnesota has won by seven points,
like it's.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Been something like eerie.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Well, let's just sad the line at seven points, because
that's basically what the marginia victory has been the last
three contest for the last three years.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
So there you go.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
You know what it is, though, Like what's awesome about
the eighty seven games that are being played. There's different
storylines with each and with Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
PJ.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Fleck has built a program up kind of quietly, like
I don't know that he gets enough credit for the
job that he's done. In terms of the success that
they've had. They've won back to back years nine wins.
Three of the last four they've won nine plus they
won eleven I think what four years ago, the year
before COVID. I mean, you'd have to go back before
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World War One, the last time Minnesota had this sort
of consistency of winning.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Back here we're talking like this, Hey, how are we
doing there?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Come over her hair? Now, let me play a drink, sir.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, they talked back to get your boiler maker.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So I thank you, sir. That was the last time.
Oh way back then, of.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Course you didn't know that long.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Oh my god, say hey, I like take a burger
off here today, I'm pay you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Hello message or do you have a better half? Or
would you like one?
Speaker 6 (04:21):
But in all seriousness, like that's the last time Henry L.
Williams was the last was the last head coach to
have Minnesota in a spot like this.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And then on the flip side, you've got Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Which is once like a blue blood of college football,
had so much success in the seventies, eighties, and nineties,
and now they're trying to find it again. And then
got a guy in mad Rule who is a program
builder from his time at Temple.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's a Baylor.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
You know, Carolina didn't work out as well, but I
honestly feel like they're they're probably in a better position
and will be competitive this year because the foundation he laid.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But that being said, man like, it's it's culture.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
It's a program versus you know, someone choose trying to
get there a team that's trying to build to it.
So that's what I find really interesting. You know, you
find all these different you know, storylines to it. And
let me say this, both of the quarterbacks in this
game can sling it. Like both these guys if you
put them on like if they were you know, for example,
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Ohio State's quarterback, we'd be talking about them in a
different vein a different light personally. Jeff Simms, the quarterback
who went from Georgia Tech to Nebraska, This kid's a stud.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I'm telling you right now, like you're gonna see it.
You will see it tonight.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
He is a stud and I think he'll be a
big reason why Nebraska is going to have some success.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's going to be eighty degrees a kickoff. Oh perfect, Well,
by the way, welcome to late August early September football.
Eighty degrees. Who knows, maybe there'll be a thunderstorm or
something like that. Yeah, I do wonder whoa, whoa, don't
jinx us my god. Hey, you of all people should
know that's a problem, and it seems to follow you where.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's only a problem when you bring it up.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
All right, Well, look, I'm just trying to make ease,
just trying to let everybody know that that is a
big ability here. If you followed Ben Broda the travels
of Brady Quinn covering college football over the past several years,
there seems to be some weather issues that follow along
with him. But nonetheless the Matt Rule era to start there.
I hope I'm actually rooting for Matt Rule because I
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saw some crap that was being thrown around yesterday. So
Matt Corral got released by the Carolina Panthers, and for
some reason, they feel they need to make the point that, oh, well,
that's like thirteen of the twenty two draft picks that
Matt Rule was part of bringing in are now no
longer with the Carolina Panthers, as if that's some sort
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of indictment on Matt Rule and Matt Rules the reason
why Carolina struggled in the past couple of years, never
mind the fact that they had a quarterback issue and
they tried to go all in on too Shaan Watson,
and they didn't want Deshaun Watson at four years. They
were only going to guarantee two years. But it's all
Matt Rule's fault. So I see that, and they go,
I hope he gets a fair shot at Nebraska, and
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I hope he does well, and so I'm rooting for him.
And also I'm rooting for PJ. Fleck from the standpoint
of a little bit of a rallying cry after the
Northwestern stuff came out. Yet all those bitter X players
that came out with those reports, and then you had
guys that stood up for PJ. Flex. So these are
a couple of guys that maybe a lot of people
two years ago wouldn't root for PJ. Fleck because they
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felt like he was a little bit more I don't
want to say obnoxious, but very in your face about
his row, your boat and all his beliefs. But after
all that stuff came out, some feel good stories here,
motivated head coaches and college football.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Programs livated tight ends.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
What what do you mean, Eric Gilbert?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Oh man, what come on? Any Husker is well for now?
I mean he was a Husker.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
He's got some problems though, trying to help him out.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He look, he didn't know the camera was on.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
He didn't know the cameras on. There was some cameras
on hand.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
A completely different story.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Let me ask you this, you do hookah is whokah
that dude that good U where you end up breaking
in and robbing a joint?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
It depends on if it's Hohoka plus, if it's Huka plus, yeah, yeah,
you could get you could plus get to the place
of where you do some things that.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Service that.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Really, who could plus? Y'all used context clues. It ain't
just sheisha in there, and it ain't just tobacco.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It ain't justsh if you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Like, yeah, there you go?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Is that little green?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Not not when it's Huka plus because it's still taking
on the color of the molasses or whatever it is.
That's that's on top of the on top of the
I feel good tobacco. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't look green.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, listen, I blame the people that had the cameras on.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Let the guy enjoy himself.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right, that's what it is. That's the report. It was
that it was. It was who could have made him
do it?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well, it's like a bunch of vave products, right, I mean, dang,
I mean you know the same thing happened with with DJ.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know, window vape products.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He was doing the synthetic stuff and just thought he
had wings. Don't get totally understandable.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know, they call that vaping now, that was when
they were calling it synthetic back then. It's just vaping now.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Guy, It's like you remember that movie The Boy Who
Could Fly?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, DJ thought he was you know the stunt double
for that movie.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I talked about R Kelly yesterday on the show Is
it okay if you sing R Kelly when one jumps
out the window thinking that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Fly? I mean, can you sing the song?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
We talked about Free Willie, We.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Talked I Believe Vacuum Fly.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Talked about Bill Case and.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
By the way, do you think just being in the
locker room, do you think when he came back that
people were playing that song on the speakers when j
came back, you don't think so.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He's a big, mother mother lover man. I wouldn't have
did that. I wouldn't have messed with him. That's a
big dude. I coached him in the under armoured game
his his senior year. He's he's a big dude, man,
and he got bigger as Yeah, a big dude. I
(10:43):
believed he could fly from the fourth floor window. I
wouldn't mess with him out of a fourth floor window.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It just sounded good, though, to have a little bit
of if your wings.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Work, let's just do bellshit. It was the top of
the or let's be act about this.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
He was floating for a little bit, one would say,
before they hit the ground.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
They were flying.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
This will be all right. Well, well that being said,
h we do look forward to the beginning of the
college football Labor Day Extravaganza coming up later on tonight,
and again you can see Brady Quinn and the Big
Noon Boys eight Eastern time, five o'clock Pacific on Fox
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get everything fired up here for a four day feast
of college football or is it is it five days?
Well whatever, it goes all the way to Monday, but
it starts later on tonight, so everybody's excited about it.
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Speaker 4 (12:03):
Shout out to Delta Airlines.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh here we go, Delta.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
This is your captain speaking.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Delta Airlines did a fantastic job handling what was treacherous
weather tilta all you cool cats out there. Delta Airlines
did a great job, except for the guy sitting behind.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Me, oh no, who was upset about the meal that
he orchard.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
For whatever reason, he seems to think these flight attendants
are there specifically to him like they're a waitress, and
so he of course makes all these complaints.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Happened in music, all right, we're he starts making all these.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
He's yeah, he starts making all these complaints and creating
a ruckus. Now granted he was wearing a mask. Let's
just it was hard to a sense for what the
hell he was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Saying through a mask.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Oh yeah, at least he's got the right mask on.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
But he's lighting up, lighting up these flight attendants because
he got the wrong salad.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And it upsets his stomach if he has I'm like,
are you serious to you?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
And you're really gonna complain to these nice ladies and
they are so attentive, they were so nice about it
because of this dude creating an absolute chaos because he
got the wrong salad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What was his what was the difference in the sou
Did he order a caesar and he got a club?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
What are we talking?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
No, it wasn't. There wasn't like those sorts of options.
There was like one that was supposed to be a vegetarian.
And I think, like, here's what I don't know, because
again he's speaking through a mask, and it was hard
to understand. But he He was saying, like, is apparently
you can't eat cheese if you're a vegetarian. Some people
don't eat dairy. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So he was mad because he had gotten it.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
I guess a salad that had cheese in it, ohez, which,
by the way, if what was the one I had,
was actually.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Really good, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
But he was.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Literally complaining about it, telling how he was going to
post online and he wanted to talk to their supervisor,
and it was like, dude, we're forty thousand feet there,
there's no supervisor up here.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Dude, cut a fart and the cheese is gone, like
it never happened.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's not what.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Bothers me more though, is is like flight attendants are
really there for like the safety of people, right, Like
someone chokes on a chicken wing.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
They're gonna help give the heimlik.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And stail their cocktail waitresses.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah no, yeah, that's their actual job. That's what they're
trained for. I mean everything outside of that's just a bonus.
Yet people treat them a lot of times like crap,
Like this guy.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I've never treated flight attendants like crap either. In fact,
in my younger days, I treated.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, you did very well.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
All right, let's just hell all your cool cats out there.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Yeah, let's just stand in the street at the bars travels.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Back in the day.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Some music might have to change for my story of
older days of flight attendant.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Uh, chronicle, you're listening to stick City FM.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah on the beat?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I like it. I like it smooth like man, did
I have some pune with some flight attendance when I
was younger?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Carry on?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, let's just you didn't want to leave the flight.
Huh did you have to or did you put it
in the overhead the travels or did you slide it
under your seat?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, ge was your boy
was sliding? All right?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Did you give her your wings? Her?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Hello? Give her some of them wings beating? That box
is checked off. I'll tell you that that's.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
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Speaker 3 (16:17):
Tell you that well. I mean.
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Speaker 3 (16:36):
This music is a freaking trip now it is.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I don't know that attention to the fact that the
bid of music never stopped.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, that was one.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Set man was all right it uh coming up by
the way, and uh well, yeah, by the way, call
fifteen minutes from now here on two pros and a
cup of Joe. We had a record, a record that
somebody eventually will try and break. So that'll be happening
here coming up again less than twenty minutes from now
we'll call it in between fifteen and twenty minutes from
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now here on FSR. But let's talk about somebody in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But changing subjects, who.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Has a different Let's move on. So the story of
the Indianapolis Cults wants a proud franchise based in Baltimore,
then moved Indianapolis and now apparently are riding around town
in a clown car. Their owner, Jim Mersey, eccentric, some
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would say intoxicated. He didn't like his star running backs
demands for a contract, but fell in love with a
killer whale. And now here's a story about his general manager,
Chris Ballard, who's got to answer questions about the entire ordeal.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
I tell every rookie that comes in. There's going to
be a point when we disagree, and it's usually about money,
and it's.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Going to be hard.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
And just know that doesn't change my care level for you.
I care deeply for Jonathan Taylor and what sucks, I
mean the situation, So I'm not consider and give you
some rosy picture like, oh, this is just everything's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, it sucks.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
It sucks for the Colts, it sucks for Jonathan Taylor,
and it sucks for our fans. And relationships are repairable.
When guys get emotional and take a stance, you got
to have some you know, you've got to be able
to work through those.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now to Brave and Quinn for his thoughts, I'm Brian Gumble.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
How often did you hear a general manager of publica
use the word sucks? It is, I just you don't
hear many people in that hive a position in any
industry publicly say something sucks as much as Chris Ballard
just did. There By the way, is really good at
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his job. He's a really good guy. Like I I
believe that, like deep in my heart, he does have
the best intentions. But as you deep in my heart, man,
because I care deeply about these plages.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Did you use that? Because that was a yes, because
he's now.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Making up it's so obvious with the messaging that he
just get put out there that he's putting this on
Jim irsay without saying it, and he's basically saying like, look,
this relationship is damaged because of something that our owner said.
And oh, by the way, I care about these guys, right,
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like like he's making it known that he's got a
relationship with him that's very different than note the owner
has and I'd argue with anyone like people can say like, oh,
it's about money. Okay, Well look let's see. Let's see
if the Colts don't offer Jonathan Taylor then an extension,
and let's see if he ends up taking it. Because
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if they do, okay, then it was all just about money.
But if they do, or if they end up trading
them on, then clearly they're both admitting that they just
need to go to separate ways, either from a breakdown
in communication or because Jonathan Taylor just said I'm not
going to play for an owner that doesn't care about me,
that's publicly said he doesn't care about me, and that
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relationship is not repairable, kind of like the one with
Shamou the way all that just died that you mercey
tried to say, geez, I'm just saying you can't bring
him back, man.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's unfortunate. By the way, it also struck me that
because Ballard, Jonathan Taylor was his guy that he chose,
and it's it's not like he was a first round
obvious selection. He took him in the second round and
it was somebody that he identified and has been a
home run pick for the Colts. He's been fantastic when
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you can find an all pro at a position in
the second round like this, he's been everything he wanted
and that was Ballard's guy and Ersa possibly ruined it
forever because he shot his eyes. So, yeah, Ballard does
seem frustrated, and I just wonder if at some point
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in the middle of that he was like, yeah, I'm
probably gonna get a call from Jim, but I don't care, guys,
I'm just gonna say what I want to say, and
it's just going to be what it is. It just
he's been put in a bad spot again because Free
Willie wanted to shoot his mouth off on the back
of a golf.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Cart, Hey, LeVar, if Jimmer say was he had called
Chris Ballard, what do you think it's said?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, I don't really all right, here's what I
here's what I say that Jim Irsey would say the ballad.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Look, look, look buddy, he's I pay the.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Bills around here. I I make sure that this this
ship doesn't go down. But if the ship were to
go down, no one would care. The ship would still
be floating, but you would not be the new captain
of this ship. So please refrain from giving any type
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of remarks of saying it sucks as it applies to
the Indianapolis Colts and how we handle our fears.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I could let you get away with it this one time,
just this one time, but if you do it again,
I just got to let you know, if you were
to die today, no one would care. Life would continue
on my guy. You saw what happened into my blackfish,
it could happen to you, Okay. So I just wanted
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to let you know. Clow just just just tread a
little bit lighter on the waters that you are in
while you are representing the Indianapolis Colts, which is a fine, fine,
fine organization that has done fine work for many many
years before you, and it will go on many years after.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
And I know we're splitting hairs here, but didn't that
whale have some white on it too? I'm a rain maker,
thank you, Jim.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
You would say that, you, Jonas Knox, would say that
we have to acknowledge the other colors. Why didn't you
just say that the underbelly was white? Hey, do you
know why the underbelly of uh, you know, big big
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fish or white.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Never sees the sun? Huh never sees the sun.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
H It's my guess it's camoflage.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
It actually looks like the sky.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yea, So really there's fish. They look up the things,
I mean there is.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
There's probably something to Genesis theory to It's not like
they're tanning on their back.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I think I'm so pale, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
But or because you know killer whales, which by the way,
aren't wales, they are cousins to the dolphin.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
They're actually a big ass dolphin.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say if John, if Jonathan
Taylor had a comedic bone in his body, he should
show up and report back in a Hartford whaler's jersey.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You could probably find a free Willie Jersey, couldn't you.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah? Probably, I mean, yeah, which whales are mammals as well?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Or maybe you just have SeaWorld just a SeaWorld tea.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Sure a great call.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Sea World even still a thing anymore? Yeah, I think so.
They just can't like see world it, like really see
world it.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't think they really advertise it, but I think
it's still there.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I think it's still there.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It feels inhumane, but yeah, people.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Just feel comfortable going to see world anymore. Huh.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh, No, there's plenty of people who go. They go, yeah, yeah,
there's a market for that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I mean a lot of people don't feel comfortable about it,
but there's a lot of people who do the like, damn,
I can see a whale.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know, I'll yeah, if it means if it means
getting the kids out of the house and getting them
tired before their nap, you'll do anything.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Bucks to go see a whale. Sweet dipping dots too, well,
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
By the way, really like dipping dots.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I don't understand why they're not more like mainstream, like
they're like only in certain places where you get them
and have them and they're good. But like every time
you have dippin' dots, you're like, this is a great idea.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Are the dipping' dots the one that came on the
paper or the the old school dots like back in
the day. Remember there's like that candy that would that
would stick to the paper.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
That's the note you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
We'll try to translation career in nineteen sixties candy. All right, yeah,
Well how about you know it has dairy in it?
I don't know has dary?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Don't you ruin my day?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Branden, whoa, don't worry about my not?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
What was that was that?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
The nineteen thirties, nineteen hundreds. I'll eat my dots and
you'll have nothing to say about it. There, sir, She
step right up. Come see a whale.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You want to see a whale with some dipping dots?
Well we'll see it.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Well, huh, somebody called Dick Tracy.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We gotta we gotta pay for it needs to be solved.
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Albert Happy College football, four or five day eighty seven
games late weekend. How we feel in here.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I think we have
a quarterback, so I feel okay about that. And uh yeah,
I think I'll be in in South End in three
weeks too, so that's when we'll really find out.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
All right, that'll be uh, that'll be a fun one.
I feel like there's a lot of uh, I'll be
honest with you, Albert. And then there's two like schools
of thought, like I get it, it's Navy. Navy's gonna
be bad this year, but it's hard to deny. Like
Sam Harmon looked really really good, really clean, Like.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yep, I get it.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
And there's a lot about how State.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Fans are like, oh, it's just Navy, and I was
like okay, like keep saying that, like you guys, keep
feeling that way, because we'll have State fans feel.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Really unsure about your quarterback situation. It's almost like they're
a little bit scared to admit it. But that's that's
where it's at right now.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
Oh wow, Yeah, I hate to admit this, but I
may or may not have been one of the people
that was like ready to bench CJ. Strat after the
Oregon Games years ago, early on early on. I think
I'm gonna I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn
from that experience of a couple of years ago, and
I'm going to just kind of keep my mouth shut
for the first month with whoever's in there and let
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the thing play out. I would say, yeah, like, you've
definitely got a you got a better quarterback situation than
Ohio State has right now.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I would say that weeks it's not even debatable.
Speaker 12 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't think there's any quoite. I mean,
what is it, like forty five or fifty starts to zero.
It's not it's not it's not hard to.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Come to include that.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
It was crazy too, Albert.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I was talking to one of our researchers last night
about what we've got Minnesota Nebraska. I'm here in Minneapolis now,
and like, if Jeff Simmons was the Ohio State quarterback,
like he would be able to crush it there. Like
there's so many good quarterbacks around college football, and think,
if you look at the Ohio State quarterback position, as
long as you can utilize the talent you have around you,
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like you're gonna be good. But to me, like this
is I don't want to say, a drop off. But
there's a lot of other guys that I think out
there that are just as talented, if not more, that
are in different situations right now. Jeff Simms, the quarterback
in Nebrass's in one of them.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Jeff Simms is an interesting one. And I know there
have been some stuff out there about you know, Ohio
State at one point sniffing around Drake May at the
end of last year.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know.
Speaker 12 (30:32):
I I think the one thing is, you know, again,
two years ago, no one knew who CJ.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Straut was.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
So I think you got to give the guys who've
been in the program, you know, a minute and see
where it goes. But it's it's so interesting because it's
such a different environment now too, Like this is a
conventional way of doing it, right like, but so many
programs have pivoted and decided to do it another way.
And you know that's I think what makes this You're
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so interesting is it's almost like free agency, right Like,
there are so many quarterbacks that are going to be
that we know of, that we've heard of, that we've
watched play, that are going to be in new.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Uniforms as fall albert as we transition over to somebody
else that was in the Big Ten for a long
time and played at a high level, Jonathan Taylor. When
you hear Chris Ballard's comments yesterday, does this seem like
something that is repairable as he wants it to be
or are we already past that point and he goes
on the pup list and eventually he's going to get dealt.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
I mean, I hate to say it, but it almost
sounds like it's something above his pay grade, doesn't it?
Like I mean, I and there aren't very many levels
above his pay grade, I'll put it that way. But
you know, I think this has been a really frustrating
thing for for Chris Ballard and for Shane sich And
and I actually think those guys would be amenable to
doing a deal with what Jonathan tooto. At least that's
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the sense I get. And you know, this is a
really tough spot for Shane's siching to be in as
the first year head coach, because you know, Lebar and
Brady know this, Like the locker room pays attention to
everything a first year coach does. Who you know, who's
going to be rewarded in the new program, What they're
going to reward in the new program. And you know,
Jonathan Taylor is not only one of the productive and
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best players in the team, he's also one of the
most respected and one of the most well liked players
in the team. And so you know, I'm sure there's
a lot of head scratching that locker room and looking
at it and saying, this is the guy that you're
going to war with. And that's a tough thing for
Chris Ballard to manage. And I think that's why he
tried to strike a sympathetic tone yesterday and certainly is
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a tough thing for Shane's Sichon to deal with. So
you know, I think ultimately this is one of those
is going to be up to the owner and what
the owner wants to do. And you know, I think
absent in a new contract, this thing is going to
be ugly the rest of the year. And yeah, I mean,
you know, so he's out the first month of the season.
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Does he come back in October? Have you know a
strong three or four weeks to get traded I I
I certainly think that that would have to be unstable
right now unless the owner pivots from from from where
he's been over the last couple of months.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
What about the Chris Jones situation, Abe, Like, how does
that compare?
Speaker 12 (33:17):
Yeah, it's a little different, LeVar. I would say, you know,
everybody in the Chiefs building wants Chris Jones in, and
you know, obviously Chris Jones is putting his money where
his mouth is and making his point. You know, I
believe today tomorrow he's up to two million dollars in
fines and those are fines that can't be forgiven under
the under the rules of the CBA. And you know, I,
(33:40):
you know, we're what I think that the Chiefs open
a week for tonight, right, that's right, the days are
running together. But but yeah, you know this is different
and that this is about the market. They want to
pay him, and you know they want but they want
to pay him at the level that the defensive market
is at right now, and they don't want to pay
him the outline contract. So they want to pay him,
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you know, incrementally more than what Jeff Simmons got Tennessee,
than what Gwinn and Williams got from the Jets, which is,
you know, right in the twenty four to twenty five
million dollar range. And he believes that he deserves the
outlier contract which was thirty one million and change almost
thirty two million that Aaron Donald got. And in a way,
it's not this similar from the Calvin Johnson situation ten
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years ago. And I don't know how many people out
there listening remember this, but Calvin Johnson's contract was a
total outlier and it made it really difficult for Dallas
to resign Dez Bryant and for Denver to re sign
to Marius Thomas. And I think that's probably the best
comp right now for this situation, in that you know
that you got a team on one side that's willing
to pay to give a guy a market deal and
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reward him. But there's one outlier contract sitting out there,
and that's what that what what the player in question
is going after.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
All Right, Albert, let's get to a fun topic. What
the hell are the Patriots doing at the quarterback spot?
You've only got one on the active roster and Mac Jones,
I know, ZAPPI cleared waivers as side packed to the
peace squad. They can bring them up, move back down
a few times.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
What's the plan?
Speaker 12 (35:13):
So the plan is the bringing a veteran, you know,
And I think a big part of what happened Brady
over the last six months was slowly, I think, but surely,
the Patriots started to go back to what they've done
traditionally and what they did over Bill Belichick's first twenty
two years there, which is back to a more quarterback
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centric model where the quarterback is going to be responsible
for more and they think that leverages mac Jones's greatest strengths, right, Like,
so the quarterback is going to make the MC call,
the quarterback's going to set the protection, the quarterbacks nice
for everything, and they're going to do that. They're going
to go back to what they have been. That's not
what they were last year. And I think like what
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they tried to do last year in simplifying things brought
the best out Daily Zappy. But as they went back
to what they were doing before, they moved further towards
mac Jones's strengths and further away from Bailey Zappi's strengths.
And Bailey Zappi playing in a more traditional NFL offense
didn't look the same. I mean, he looked like a
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practice squad guy. Over the course of camp and and preseason.
And that's not an insult, that's just what it was.
So you know, what the Patriots preference right now would
be is to lead Bailey Zappy in the practice squad,
try to develop him mentally a little more over the
next year or two and bringing a veteran who can
be a resource to mac Jones. And whether that's Cold
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McCoy trading for case Keenum, whoever it is, they want
to get somebody in there who can play the offense.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
They're going to run in.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
A pinch, and that's not Bailey z Appy right now.
And again, like I think you can speak to this
Brady like getting a veteran guy in there can be
good for a young quarterback, you know, And so I
think that they want to give mac Jones that sort
of resource. Again, whether it's Cold McCoy, king of somebody
like that album, it makes.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
A ton of sense.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. Get him on Twitter at
Albert Breer. All right, So the training camp tour is
in the rear view mirror. That being said, most impressive
and least impressive team you saw on your training camp
tour Albert Breer.
Speaker 12 (37:22):
Now you're talking to them like surprises, like kind of
like what because there's the obvious, right. So San Francisco
is super impressive, their rosters loaded. Cincinnattie I was there
when Burrow was down, and even with Alburrow, they look really,
really impressive. Those are my two Super Bowl teams. I'll
tell you the one that I think a lot of
people aren't paying attention to that I think is a
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really it's going to be really good and that's Seattle. Now.
I know there's focus on Geno and whether or not
you can get back Glove last year's no open question.
I think he can, But look at the rest of
that roster. I mean, they had six seven rookies starting
every week last year, and they think this year's rookie
class might be better than last year's with Devin Witherspoon
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and Jackson Smith and Jigba and Derek Hall and and
and Zach Sharbonnay. So, like, I think Seattle is a
team that kind of caught me up guard a little bit,
like this the winning the NFC West might not be
so simple for the Niners. The one that I was
kind of like caught off guard guard by, and we'll
we'll circle back on this one to the top of
the fall. The Colts looked okay when I saw them
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at the beginning of training camp. Then I saw them
again because I was in Philly and they happened to
be doing a joint practice with the Eagles that day.
They they look a little rough around the edges now,
and I just I don't I don't know which way
this is going, but it feels to me like it's
some And what was a little alarming to me was
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at some key spot, I've just got questions at corner,
at left tackle. Quarterback is going to be an up
and down year. We know that with Anthony Richardson in there,
their receivers, are they good enough at receiver? You know?
So you have these premium positions and you know, edge rusher,
you have these premium positions. It's like, what are they
gonna do? And it's not that they don't have the
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players they do. They've got Shack Leonard, they've got Quintin Nelson.
You know if maybe the laugh Jonathan Taylor, maybe not.
But you just look at like the most important positions
on the field and you're like, ah, God, that does
not look great. So so yeah, maybe Anthony Richardson will
have Marvin Harrison to throw.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
To the next year.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Man, I'll give you I thought you might throw Pittsburgh
in there as one of those teams that.
Speaker 12 (39:40):
Yeah, I think the Steelers are a team that's on
the commp definitely.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (39:44):
I mean I didn't get to the camp LeVar, but
they are like sneaky. Like I'm doing this quarterback poll
right this every year, and I asked GM's head coaches,
OC's quarterback coaches, give me who you think the top
five quarter Aximall League going to be at the end
of the year. I've gotten a few votes for Pickett
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inside that top five, and he looked really good in
the preseason, and he's got like people around him now,
you know, like between Pickens and Deontay Johnson and Pat
Fryer mos Najee Harris behind him. They draft the left
tackle Broderick Jones, and you know the defense is going
to be pretty good. Plus they finished the year, I
think they were eight and two down the stretch, right,
(40:25):
is that right?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (40:27):
I mean I think that that AFC nor is going
to be a bear. There's not a bad team in
that Division. I fit's for certainly, it wouldn't shock me
if it's for somehow found a way to win the North.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I got one more for you, Albert.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Minnesota's a thirteen win team last year. There's no buzz.
No one really talks.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
About them really making a run.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I'm not sure if you got there or not, but
just kind of curious, like, why are people I mean,
Brian Florest comes in to coach the defense. I think
it's a better fit for the personnel they have. I'm
just kind of curious why people aren't looking at them
as a legitimate, like playoff contender in the NFC, given
what the NFC looks like.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
Yeah, I think I think a part of it, well,
I mean I think a part of it is people
like habitually underrate Kirk Cousins. And I'm not saying Kirk
cuss is, like not saying he's homes are Allen or Burrow,
but he's a pretty good player. So I think that's
part of it. I think, you know, a big part
of it is I think you have to look this up.
I don't have it in front of me. I think
they were nine to zero in one score games last year,
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so you know part of it is probably you figure
that's not going to happen again, and if they play
that many close games again, then that's going to be
a factor.
Speaker 13 (41:34):
And then yeah, but let's say let's hold on, but
let's let let's say they lose four of those, so
they're a nine to eight football team in that instance,
like maybe give him a win two or here, Like
I don't.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Know, I kind of looked at I kind of look
at it, just go what am I missing? Like why
are people given how bad their defense was last year.
Speaker 12 (41:53):
And good and good, good systems on both sides of
all right, like you know that, like we know, we
know Flow can coach defense, we know we know Kevin
can coach offense. So yeah, I'm with you, Like I
think that I think that program's in a really good
place now. The question to me is, like you are
taking some key pieces out and this was sort of
their reset year. This is when they were going to
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go in and they were going to kind of reset
their cap, right, which is why Adam Feeln's gone, why
Dalvin Cook's gone, why Eric Kendrickson's gone, why Peterson's gone.
Right now, I think a lot of whether or not
they're able to get back to where you're talking about,
like that level is can they develop young players to
fill those spots right, Like so Jordan Hicks, Brian Asamoa
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at linebacker where Eric HENDRICKX used to be. You know,
where does Madison kJ Osborne look like next to Justin Jefferson,
Alexander Madison and Dalvin Cooks old spot. They've got young
corners to replace Pat Peterson to meat ask the question,
you know, and you still have some of the guys
that were a huge part of what they built over
the years that are back there too, you know. I
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mean the Neil Hunter is still there obviously, Harris and
Smith is i think the dean of the entire operation
now and it's huge to have him in the in
the fold. But yeah, I mean I think that's a
big part of it too, is that you're resetting in
some key positions and it's going to be on you know,
Kevin and and Flora is not just to you know,
build great build build good systems and call good games.
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It's also going to be on them to develop a
lot of young talent and some of those spots that
have been held down by those guys for so long.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB. Always kind enough to join us here
on a Thursday morning, Albert, we appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week as we get set for Lions
Chiefs to kick off the season.
Speaker 12 (43:39):
That's right, all right, thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
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On the settler was ready to get them.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Can you get a feeling in the air. There's something
going on.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Can you smell it?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's the Labor Day extravaganza known as college football and
inundated by college football. Eighty seven college football games between
now and Monday. Good god, football, let's go.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
How excited does it make you?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
It's just because it's it's signals that the hard part's
over and now we're off and running.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
What was the hard part?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, the hard part was trying to get through discussing
NBA playing tournaments and all the other crap that was
put on the table. They do something with this.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Okay, here we got about yourself one week.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
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Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, you had help. What you made I didn't say anything.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
By the way, if that was my if that was
my fine schedule, I would have got fined ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah that was passive aggressive, all right, listen, I don't
I was just passive. It wouldn't really.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Aggressick anybody ten bucks or anything. And at this point we.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Don't pay it anyway, none of y'all who paid it.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I don't recall.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Seeing anybody made.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Jonas knows I sent a screen grab. I made a
payment once I sent my monthly fine.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Did not make no payments.
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Brother, Yes I did. I made a payment.
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I give Q, I give c it.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
But yeah, I mean, I listen, I will admit it
what I got found like twice three times.
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Speaker 5 (01:53):
I didn't. I did not. I did not handle the
payment like I be honest, you know I did. Trust
Jonas made his donation to the D's Foundation.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I did did the D's. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
By the way, these nuts and these boots are on
the ground in Minnesota for Holiesota Nebraska Big ten to
start off your college football docket. There on a Thursday,
eight Eastern time, seven o'clock local in Minnesota, as we've
got the golfers and the Huskers Minnesota seven point favorite
(02:36):
courtesy of our friends at DraftKings Brady Quinn. How excited
are you? I mean, we're talking Ireland last week, Minnesota
this week.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I was looking back through my notes too.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I'm pretty sure if I'm not mistaken, Like last three
or four matchups as well, Minnesota has won by seven points,
like it's.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
Been something like eerie.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
Well, let's just sad the line at seven points, because
that's basically what the marginia victory has been the last
three contest for the last three years.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
So there you go.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
You know what it is, though, Like what's awesome about
the eighty seven games that are being played. There's different
storylines with each and with Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
PJ.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Fleck has built a program up kind of quietly, like
I don't know that he gets enough credit for the
job that he's done. In terms of the success that
they've had. They've won back to back years nine wins.
Three of the last four they've won nine plus they
won eleven I think what four years ago, the year
before COVID. I mean, you'd have to go back before
(03:37):
World War One, the last time Minnesota had this sort
of consistency of winning.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Back here we're talking like this, Hey, how are we
doing there?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Sir?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Come over her hair? Now, let me play a drink, sir.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, they talked back to get your boiler maker.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
So I thank you, sir. That was the last time.
Oh way back then, of.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Course you didn't know that long.
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Oh my god, say hey, I like take a burger
off here today, I'm pay you tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Hello message or do you have a better half? Or
would you like one?
Speaker 6 (04:21):
But in all seriousness, like that's the last time Henry L.
Williams was the last was the last head coach to
have Minnesota in a spot like this.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And then on the flip side, you've got Nebraska.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
Which is once like a blue blood of college football,
had so much success in the seventies, eighties, and nineties,
and now they're trying to find it again. And then
got a guy in mad Rule who is a program
builder from his time at Temple.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's a Baylor.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
You know, Carolina didn't work out as well, but I
honestly feel like they're they're probably in a better position
and will be competitive this year because the foundation he laid.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But that being said, man like, it's it's culture.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
It's a program versus you know, someone choose trying to
get there a team that's trying to build to it.
So that's what I find really interesting. You know, you
find all these different you know, storylines to it. And
let me say this, both of the quarterbacks in this
game can sling it. Like both these guys if you
put them on like if they were you know, for example,
(05:17):
Ohio State's quarterback, we'd be talking about them in a
different vein a different light personally. Jeff Simms, the quarterback
who went from Georgia Tech to Nebraska, This kid's a stud.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
I'm telling you right now, like you're gonna see it.
You will see it tonight.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
He is a stud and I think he'll be a
big reason why Nebraska is going to have some success.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
It's going to be eighty degrees a kickoff. Oh perfect, Well,
by the way, welcome to late August early September football.
Eighty degrees. Who knows, maybe there'll be a thunderstorm or
something like that. Yeah, I do wonder whoa, whoa, don't
jinx us my god. Hey, you of all people should
know that's a problem, and it seems to follow you where.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's only a problem when you bring it up.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
All right, Well, look, I'm just trying to make ease,
just trying to let everybody know that that is a
big ability here. If you followed Ben Broda the travels
of Brady Quinn covering college football over the past several years,
there seems to be some weather issues that follow along
with him. But nonetheless the Matt Rule era to start there.
I hope I'm actually rooting for Matt Rule because I
(06:22):
saw some crap that was being thrown around yesterday. So
Matt Corral got released by the Carolina Panthers, and for
some reason, they feel they need to make the point that, oh, well,
that's like thirteen of the twenty two draft picks that
Matt Rule was part of bringing in are now no
longer with the Carolina Panthers, as if that's some sort
(06:44):
of indictment on Matt Rule and Matt Rules the reason
why Carolina struggled in the past couple of years, never
mind the fact that they had a quarterback issue and
they tried to go all in on too Shaan Watson,
and they didn't want Deshaun Watson at four years. They
were only going to guarantee two years. But it's all
Matt Rule's fault. So I see that, and they go,
I hope he gets a fair shot at Nebraska, and
(07:05):
I hope he does well, and so I'm rooting for him.
And also I'm rooting for PJ. Fleck from the standpoint
of a little bit of a rallying cry after the
Northwestern stuff came out. Yet all those bitter X players
that came out with those reports, and then you had
guys that stood up for PJ. Flex. So these are
a couple of guys that maybe a lot of people
two years ago wouldn't root for PJ. Fleck because they
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felt like he was a little bit more I don't
want to say obnoxious, but very in your face about
his row, your boat and all his beliefs. But after
all that stuff came out, some feel good stories here,
motivated head coaches and college football.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Programs livated tight ends.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
What what do you mean, Eric Gilbert?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Oh man, what come on? Any Husker is well for now?
I mean he was a Husker.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
He's got some problems though, trying to help him out.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He look, he didn't know the camera was on.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
He didn't know the cameras on. There was some cameras
on hand.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
A completely different story.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Let me ask you this, you do hookah is whokah
that dude that good U where you end up breaking
in and robbing a joint?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (08:18):
It depends on if it's Hohoka plus, if it's Huka plus, yeah, yeah,
you could get you could plus get to the place
of where you do some things that.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Service that.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Really, who could plus? Y'all used context clues. It ain't
just sheisha in there, and it ain't just tobacco.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
It ain't justsh if you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Like, yeah, there you go?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Is that little green?
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Not not when it's Huka plus because it's still taking
on the color of the molasses or whatever it is.
That's that's on top of the on top of the
I feel good tobacco. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't look green.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, listen, I blame the people that had the cameras on.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Let the guy enjoy himself.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Right, that's what it is. That's the report. It was
that it was. It was who could have made him
do it?
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well, it's like a bunch of vave products, right, I mean, dang,
I mean you know the same thing happened with with DJ.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know, window vape products.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
He was doing the synthetic stuff and just thought he
had wings. Don't get totally understandable.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
You know, they call that vaping now, that was when
they were calling it synthetic back then. It's just vaping now.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Guy, It's like you remember that movie The Boy Who
Could Fly?
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, DJ thought he was you know the stunt double
for that movie.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I talked about R Kelly yesterday on the show Is
it okay if you sing R Kelly when one jumps
out the window thinking that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Fly? I mean, can you sing the song?
Speaker 5 (10:05):
You know?
Speaker 3 (10:05):
We talked about Free Willie, We.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Talked I Believe Vacuum Fly.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Talked about Bill Case and.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
By the way, do you think just being in the
locker room, do you think when he came back that
people were playing that song on the speakers when j
came back, you don't think so.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He's a big, mother mother lover man. I wouldn't have
did that. I wouldn't have messed with him. That's a
big dude. I coached him in the under armoured game
his his senior year. He's he's a big dude, man,
and he got bigger as Yeah, a big dude. I
(10:43):
believed he could fly from the fourth floor window. I
wouldn't mess with him out of a fourth floor window.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It just sounded good, though, to have a little bit
of if your wings.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Work, let's just do bellshit. It was the top of
the or let's be act about this.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
He was floating for a little bit, one would say,
before they hit the ground.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
They were flying.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
This will be all right. Well, well that being said,
h we do look forward to the beginning of the
college football Labor Day Extravaganza coming up later on tonight,
and again you can see Brady Quinn and the Big
Noon Boys eight Eastern time, five o'clock Pacific on Fox
(11:37):
Big ten Play to start out your year and just
get everything fired up here for a four day feast
of college football or is it is it five days?
Well whatever, it goes all the way to Monday, but
it starts later on tonight, so everybody's excited about it.
Speaker 7 (11:51):
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Speaker 4 (12:03):
Shout out to Delta Airlines.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Oh here we go, Delta.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
This is your captain speaking.
Speaker 8 (12:10):
Delta Airlines did a fantastic job handling what was treacherous
weather tilta all you cool cats out there. Delta Airlines
did a great job, except for the guy sitting behind.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Me, oh no, who was upset about the meal that
he orchard.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
For whatever reason, he seems to think these flight attendants
are there specifically to him like they're a waitress, and
so he of course makes all these complaints.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Happened in music, all right, we're he starts making all these.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
He's yeah, he starts making all these complaints and creating
a ruckus. Now granted he was wearing a mask. Let's
just it was hard to a sense for what the
hell he was.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Saying through a mask.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Oh yeah, at least he's got the right mask on.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
But he's lighting up, lighting up these flight attendants because
he got the wrong salad.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And it upsets his stomach if he has I'm like,
are you serious to you?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
And you're really gonna complain to these nice ladies and
they are so attentive, they were so nice about it
because of this dude creating an absolute chaos because he
got the wrong salad.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
What was his what was the difference in the sou
Did he order a caesar and he got a club?
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:46):
What are we talking?
Speaker 6 (13:46):
No, it wasn't. There wasn't like those sorts of options.
There was like one that was supposed to be a vegetarian.
And I think, like, here's what I don't know, because
again he's speaking through a mask, and it was hard
to understand. But he He was saying, like, is apparently
you can't eat cheese if you're a vegetarian. Some people
don't eat dairy. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
So he was mad because he had gotten it.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
I guess a salad that had cheese in it, ohez, which,
by the way, if what was the one I had,
was actually.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Really good, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
But he was.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Literally complaining about it, telling how he was going to
post online and he wanted to talk to their supervisor,
and it was like, dude, we're forty thousand feet there,
there's no supervisor up here.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Dude, cut a fart and the cheese is gone, like
it never happened.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's not what.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
Bothers me more though, is is like flight attendants are
really there for like the safety of people, right, Like
someone chokes on a chicken wing.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
They're gonna help give the heimlik.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And stail their cocktail waitresses.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah no, yeah, that's their actual job. That's what they're
trained for. I mean everything outside of that's just a bonus.
Yet people treat them a lot of times like crap,
Like this guy.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I've never treated flight attendants like crap either. In fact,
in my younger days, I treated.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, you did very well.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
All right, let's just hell all your cool cats out there.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
Yeah, let's just stand in the street at the bars travels.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Back in the day.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Some music might have to change for my story of
older days of flight attendant.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Uh, chronicle, you're listening to stick City FM.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah on the beat?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
I like it. I like it smooth like man, did
I have some pune with some flight attendance when I
was younger?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Carry on?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, let's just you didn't want to leave the flight.
Huh did you have to or did you put it
in the overhead the travels or did you slide it
under your seat?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
You know what I'm saying? Yeah, ge was your boy
was sliding? All right?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Did you give her your wings? Her?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Hello? Give her some of them wings beating? That box
is checked off. I'll tell you that that's.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
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Speaker 3 (16:17):
Tell you that well. I mean.
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Speaker 3 (16:36):
This music is a freaking trip now it is.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I don't know that attention to the fact that the
bid of music never stopped.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, that was one.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Set man was all right it uh coming up by
the way, and uh well, yeah, by the way, call
fifteen minutes from now here on two pros and a
cup of Joe. We had a record, a record that
somebody eventually will try and break. So that'll be happening
here coming up again less than twenty minutes from now
we'll call it in between fifteen and twenty minutes from
(17:08):
now here on FSR. But let's talk about somebody in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But changing subjects, who.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Has a different Let's move on. So the story of
the Indianapolis Cults wants a proud franchise based in Baltimore,
then moved Indianapolis and now apparently are riding around town
in a clown car. Their owner, Jim Mersey, eccentric, some
(17:37):
would say intoxicated. He didn't like his star running backs
demands for a contract, but fell in love with a
killer whale. And now here's a story about his general manager,
Chris Ballard, who's got to answer questions about the entire ordeal.
Speaker 9 (17:56):
I tell every rookie that comes in. There's going to
be a point when we disagree, and it's usually about money,
and it's.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Going to be hard.
Speaker 9 (18:07):
And just know that doesn't change my care level for you.
I care deeply for Jonathan Taylor and what sucks, I
mean the situation, So I'm not consider and give you
some rosy picture like, oh, this is just everything's okay.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, it sucks.
Speaker 9 (18:25):
It sucks for the Colts, it sucks for Jonathan Taylor,
and it sucks for our fans. And relationships are repairable.
When guys get emotional and take a stance, you got
to have some you know, you've got to be able
to work through those.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Now to Brave and Quinn for his thoughts, I'm Brian Gumble.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
How often did you hear a general manager of publica
use the word sucks? It is, I just you don't
hear many people in that hive a position in any
industry publicly say something sucks as much as Chris Ballard
just did. There By the way, is really good at
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his job. He's a really good guy. Like I I
believe that, like deep in my heart, he does have
the best intentions. But as you deep in my heart, man,
because I care deeply about these plages.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Did you use that? Because that was a yes, because
he's now.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Making up it's so obvious with the messaging that he
just get put out there that he's putting this on
Jim irsay without saying it, and he's basically saying like, look,
this relationship is damaged because of something that our owner said.
And oh, by the way, I care about these guys, right,
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like like he's making it known that he's got a
relationship with him that's very different than note the owner
has and I'd argue with anyone like people can say like, oh,
it's about money. Okay, Well look let's see. Let's see
if the Colts don't offer Jonathan Taylor then an extension,
and let's see if he ends up taking it. Because
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if they do, okay, then it was all just about money.
But if they do, or if they end up trading
them on, then clearly they're both admitting that they just
need to go to separate ways, either from a breakdown
in communication or because Jonathan Taylor just said I'm not
going to play for an owner that doesn't care about me,
that's publicly said he doesn't care about me, and that
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relationship is not repairable, kind of like the one with
Shamou the way all that just died that you mercey
tried to say, geez, I'm just saying you can't bring
him back, man.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
That's unfortunate. By the way, it also struck me that
because Ballard, Jonathan Taylor was his guy that he chose,
and it's it's not like he was a first round
obvious selection. He took him in the second round and
it was somebody that he identified and has been a
home run pick for the Colts. He's been fantastic when
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you can find an all pro at a position in
the second round like this, he's been everything he wanted
and that was Ballard's guy and Ersa possibly ruined it
forever because he shot his eyes. So, yeah, Ballard does
seem frustrated, and I just wonder if at some point
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in the middle of that he was like, yeah, I'm
probably gonna get a call from Jim, but I don't care, guys,
I'm just gonna say what I want to say, and
it's just going to be what it is. It just
he's been put in a bad spot again because Free
Willie wanted to shoot his mouth off on the back
of a golf.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
Cart, Hey, LeVar, if Jimmer say was he had called
Chris Ballard, what do you think it's said?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
You know, I don't really all right, here's what I
here's what I say that Jim Irsey would say the ballad.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Look, look, look buddy, he's I pay the.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
Bills around here. I I make sure that this this
ship doesn't go down. But if the ship were to
go down, no one would care. The ship would still
be floating, but you would not be the new captain
of this ship. So please refrain from giving any type
(22:35):
of remarks of saying it sucks as it applies to
the Indianapolis Colts and how we handle our fears.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I could let you get away with it this one time,
just this one time, but if you do it again,
I just got to let you know, if you were
to die today, no one would care. Life would continue
on my guy. You saw what happened into my blackfish,
it could happen to you, Okay. So I just wanted
(23:05):
to let you know. Clow just just just tread a
little bit lighter on the waters that you are in
while you are representing the Indianapolis Colts, which is a fine, fine,
fine organization that has done fine work for many many
years before you, and it will go on many years after.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
And I know we're splitting hairs here, but didn't that
whale have some white on it too? I'm a rain maker,
thank you, Jim.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
You would say that, you, Jonas Knox, would say that
we have to acknowledge the other colors. Why didn't you
just say that the underbelly was white? Hey, do you
know why the underbelly of uh, you know, big big
(23:58):
fish or white.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Never sees the sun? Huh never sees the sun.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
H It's my guess it's camoflage.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
It actually looks like the sky.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
Yea, So really there's fish. They look up the things,
I mean there is.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
There's probably something to Genesis theory to It's not like
they're tanning on their back.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I think I'm so pale, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
But or because you know killer whales, which by the way,
aren't wales, they are cousins to the dolphin.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
They're actually a big ass dolphin.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say if John, if Jonathan
Taylor had a comedic bone in his body, he should
show up and report back in a Hartford whaler's jersey.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
You could probably find a free Willie Jersey, couldn't you.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah? Probably, I mean, yeah, which whales are mammals as well?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Or maybe you just have SeaWorld just a SeaWorld tea.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Sure a great call.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Sea World even still a thing anymore? Yeah, I think so.
They just can't like see world it, like really see
world it.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
I don't think they really advertise it, but I think
it's still there.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, I think it's still there.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
It feels inhumane, but yeah, people.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Just feel comfortable going to see world anymore. Huh.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Oh, No, there's plenty of people who go. They go, yeah, yeah,
there's a market for that.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I mean a lot of people don't feel comfortable about it,
but there's a lot of people who do the like, damn,
I can see a whale.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
You know, I'll yeah, if it means if it means
getting the kids out of the house and getting them
tired before their nap, you'll do anything.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Bucks to go see a whale. Sweet dipping dots too, well,
I'm there.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
By the way, really like dipping dots.
Speaker 6 (25:46):
I don't understand why they're not more like mainstream, like
they're like only in certain places where you get them
and have them and they're good. But like every time
you have dippin' dots, you're like, this is a great idea.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Are the dipping' dots the one that came on the
paper or the the old school dots like back in
the day. Remember there's like that candy that would that
would stick to the paper.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
That's the note you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
We'll try to translation career in nineteen sixties candy. All right, yeah,
Well how about you know it has dairy in it?
I don't know has dary?
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Don't you ruin my day?
Speaker 3 (26:15):
There?
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Branden, whoa, don't worry about my not?
Speaker 3 (26:18):
What was that was that?
Speaker 2 (26:19):
The nineteen thirties, nineteen hundreds. I'll eat my dots and
you'll have nothing to say about it. There, sir, She
step right up. Come see a whale.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You want to see a whale with some dipping dots?
Well we'll see it.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Well, huh, somebody called Dick Tracy.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We gotta we gotta pay for it needs to be solved.
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Speaker 2 (27:54):
Right now, we welcome in Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB. You can get them on Twitter. Albert Breer,
Albert Happy College football, four or five day eighty seven
games late weekend. How we feel in here.
Speaker 12 (28:09):
I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I think we have
a quarterback, so I feel okay about that. And uh yeah,
I think I'll be in in South End in three
weeks too, so that's when we'll really find out.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
All right, that'll be uh, that'll be a fun one.
I feel like there's a lot of uh, I'll be
honest with you, Albert. And then there's two like schools
of thought, like I get it, it's Navy. Navy's gonna
be bad this year, but it's hard to deny. Like
Sam Harmon looked really really good, really clean, Like.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yep, I get it.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
And there's a lot about how State.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Fans are like, oh, it's just Navy, and I was
like okay, like keep saying that, like you guys, keep
feeling that way, because we'll have State fans feel.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
Really unsure about your quarterback situation. It's almost like they're
a little bit scared to admit it. But that's that's
where it's at right now.
Speaker 12 (28:58):
Oh wow, Yeah, I hate to admit this, but I
may or may not have been one of the people
that was like ready to bench CJ. Strat after the
Oregon Games years ago, early on early on. I think
I'm gonna I'm going to learn. I'm going to learn
from that experience of a couple of years ago, and
I'm going to just kind of keep my mouth shut
for the first month with whoever's in there and let
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the thing play out. I would say, yeah, like, you've
definitely got a you got a better quarterback situation than
Ohio State has right now.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
I would say that weeks it's not even debatable.
Speaker 12 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, no, I don't think there's any quoite. I mean,
what is it, like forty five or fifty starts to zero.
It's not it's not it's not hard to.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Come to include that.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
It was crazy too, Albert.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
I was talking to one of our researchers last night
about what we've got Minnesota Nebraska. I'm here in Minneapolis now,
and like, if Jeff Simmons was the Ohio State quarterback,
like he would be able to crush it there. Like
there's so many good quarterbacks around college football, and think,
if you look at the Ohio State quarterback position, as
long as you can utilize the talent you have around you,
(30:06):
like you're gonna be good. But to me, like this
is I don't want to say, a drop off. But
there's a lot of other guys that I think out
there that are just as talented, if not more, that
are in different situations right now. Jeff Simms, the quarterback
in Nebrass's in one of them.
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Jeff Simms is an interesting one. And I know there
have been some stuff out there about you know, Ohio
State at one point sniffing around Drake May at the
end of last year.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You know.
Speaker 12 (30:32):
I I think the one thing is, you know, again,
two years ago, no one knew who CJ.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Straut was.
Speaker 12 (30:39):
So I think you got to give the guys who've
been in the program, you know, a minute and see
where it goes. But it's it's so interesting because it's
such a different environment now too, Like this is a
conventional way of doing it, right like, but so many
programs have pivoted and decided to do it another way.
And you know that's I think what makes this You're
(31:00):
so interesting is it's almost like free agency, right Like,
there are so many quarterbacks that are going to be
that we know of, that we've heard of, that we've
watched play, that are going to be in new.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Uniforms as fall albert as we transition over to somebody
else that was in the Big Ten for a long
time and played at a high level, Jonathan Taylor. When
you hear Chris Ballard's comments yesterday, does this seem like
something that is repairable as he wants it to be
or are we already past that point and he goes
on the pup list and eventually he's going to get dealt.
Speaker 12 (31:32):
I mean, I hate to say it, but it almost
sounds like it's something above his pay grade, doesn't it?
Like I mean, I and there aren't very many levels
above his pay grade, I'll put it that way. But
you know, I think this has been a really frustrating
thing for for Chris Ballard and for Shane sich And
and I actually think those guys would be amenable to
doing a deal with what Jonathan tooto. At least that's
(31:55):
the sense I get. And you know, this is a
really tough spot for Shane's siching to be in as
the first year head coach, because you know, Lebar and
Brady know this, Like the locker room pays attention to
everything a first year coach does. Who you know, who's
going to be rewarded in the new program, What they're
going to reward in the new program. And you know,
Jonathan Taylor is not only one of the productive and
(32:16):
best players in the team, he's also one of the
most respected and one of the most well liked players
in the team. And so you know, I'm sure there's
a lot of head scratching that locker room and looking
at it and saying, this is the guy that you're
going to war with. And that's a tough thing for
Chris Ballard to manage. And I think that's why he
tried to strike a sympathetic tone yesterday and certainly is
(32:39):
a tough thing for Shane's Sichon to deal with. So
you know, I think ultimately this is one of those
is going to be up to the owner and what
the owner wants to do. And you know, I think
absent in a new contract, this thing is going to
be ugly the rest of the year. And yeah, I mean,
you know, so he's out the first month of the season.
(32:59):
Does he come back in October? Have you know a
strong three or four weeks to get traded I I
I certainly think that that would have to be unstable
right now unless the owner pivots from from from where
he's been over the last couple of months.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
What about the Chris Jones situation, Abe, Like, how does
that compare?
Speaker 12 (33:17):
Yeah, it's a little different, LeVar. I would say, you know,
everybody in the Chiefs building wants Chris Jones in, and
you know, obviously Chris Jones is putting his money where
his mouth is and making his point. You know, I
believe today tomorrow he's up to two million dollars in
fines and those are fines that can't be forgiven under
the under the rules of the CBA. And you know, I,
(33:40):
you know, we're what I think that the Chiefs open
a week for tonight, right, that's right, the days are
running together. But but yeah, you know this is different
and that this is about the market. They want to
pay him, and you know they want but they want
to pay him at the level that the defensive market
is at right now, and they don't want to pay
him the outline contract. So they want to pay him,
(34:02):
you know, incrementally more than what Jeff Simmons got Tennessee,
than what Gwinn and Williams got from the Jets, which is,
you know, right in the twenty four to twenty five
million dollar range. And he believes that he deserves the
outlier contract which was thirty one million and change almost
thirty two million that Aaron Donald got. And in a way,
it's not this similar from the Calvin Johnson situation ten
(34:25):
years ago. And I don't know how many people out
there listening remember this, but Calvin Johnson's contract was a
total outlier and it made it really difficult for Dallas
to resign Dez Bryant and for Denver to re sign
to Marius Thomas. And I think that's probably the best
comp right now for this situation, in that you know
that you got a team on one side that's willing
to pay to give a guy a market deal and
(34:47):
reward him. But there's one outlier contract sitting out there,
and that's what that what what the player in question
is going after.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
All Right, Albert, let's get to a fun topic. What
the hell are the Patriots doing at the quarterback spot?
You've only got one on the active roster and Mac Jones,
I know, ZAPPI cleared waivers as side packed to the
peace squad. They can bring them up, move back down
a few times.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
What's the plan?
Speaker 12 (35:13):
So the plan is the bringing a veteran, you know,
And I think a big part of what happened Brady
over the last six months was slowly, I think, but surely,
the Patriots started to go back to what they've done
traditionally and what they did over Bill Belichick's first twenty
two years there, which is back to a more quarterback
(35:35):
centric model where the quarterback is going to be responsible
for more and they think that leverages mac Jones's greatest strengths, right, Like,
so the quarterback is going to make the MC call,
the quarterback's going to set the protection, the quarterbacks nice
for everything, and they're going to do that. They're going
to go back to what they have been. That's not
what they were last year. And I think like what
(35:56):
they tried to do last year in simplifying things brought
the best out Daily Zappy. But as they went back
to what they were doing before, they moved further towards
mac Jones's strengths and further away from Bailey Zappi's strengths.
And Bailey Zappi playing in a more traditional NFL offense
didn't look the same. I mean, he looked like a
(36:16):
practice squad guy. Over the course of camp and and preseason.
And that's not an insult, that's just what it was.
So you know, what the Patriots preference right now would
be is to lead Bailey Zappy in the practice squad,
try to develop him mentally a little more over the
next year or two and bringing a veteran who can
be a resource to mac Jones. And whether that's Cold
(36:37):
McCoy trading for case Keenum, whoever it is, they want
to get somebody in there who can play the offense.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
They're going to run in.
Speaker 12 (36:43):
A pinch, and that's not Bailey z Appy right now.
And again, like I think you can speak to this
Brady like getting a veteran guy in there can be
good for a young quarterback, you know, And so I
think that they want to give mac Jones that sort
of resource. Again, whether it's Cold McCoy, king of somebody
like that album, it makes.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
A ton of sense.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Albert Breer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter at the MMQB. Get him on Twitter at
Albert Breer. All right, So the training camp tour is
in the rear view mirror. That being said, most impressive
and least impressive team you saw on your training camp
tour Albert Breer.
Speaker 12 (37:22):
Now you're talking to them like surprises, like kind of
like what because there's the obvious, right. So San Francisco
is super impressive, their rosters loaded. Cincinnattie I was there
when Burrow was down, and even with Alburrow, they look really,
really impressive. Those are my two Super Bowl teams. I'll
tell you the one that I think a lot of
people aren't paying attention to that I think is a
(37:43):
really it's going to be really good and that's Seattle. Now.
I know there's focus on Geno and whether or not
you can get back Glove last year's no open question.
I think he can, But look at the rest of
that roster. I mean, they had six seven rookies starting
every week last year, and they think this year's rookie
class might be better than last year's with Devin Witherspoon
(38:03):
and Jackson Smith and Jigba and Derek Hall and and
and Zach Sharbonnay. So, like, I think Seattle is a
team that kind of caught me up guard a little bit,
like this the winning the NFC West might not be
so simple for the Niners. The one that I was
kind of like caught off guard guard by, and we'll
we'll circle back on this one to the top of
the fall. The Colts looked okay when I saw them
(38:28):
at the beginning of training camp. Then I saw them
again because I was in Philly and they happened to
be doing a joint practice with the Eagles that day.
They they look a little rough around the edges now,
and I just I don't I don't know which way
this is going, but it feels to me like it's
some And what was a little alarming to me was
(38:51):
at some key spot, I've just got questions at corner,
at left tackle. Quarterback is going to be an up
and down year. We know that with Anthony Richardson in there,
their receivers, are they good enough at receiver? You know?
So you have these premium positions and you know, edge rusher,
you have these premium positions. It's like, what are they
gonna do? And it's not that they don't have the
(39:11):
players they do. They've got Shack Leonard, they've got Quintin Nelson.
You know if maybe the laugh Jonathan Taylor, maybe not.
But you just look at like the most important positions
on the field and you're like, ah, God, that does
not look great. So so yeah, maybe Anthony Richardson will
have Marvin Harrison to throw.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
To the next year.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Man, I'll give you I thought you might throw Pittsburgh
in there as one of those teams that.
Speaker 12 (39:40):
Yeah, I think the Steelers are a team that's on
the commp definitely.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (39:44):
I mean I didn't get to the camp LeVar, but
they are like sneaky. Like I'm doing this quarterback poll
right this every year, and I asked GM's head coaches,
OC's quarterback coaches, give me who you think the top
five quarter Aximall League going to be at the end
of the year. I've gotten a few votes for Pickett
(40:04):
inside that top five, and he looked really good in
the preseason, and he's got like people around him now,
you know, like between Pickens and Deontay Johnson and Pat
Fryer mos Najee Harris behind him. They draft the left
tackle Broderick Jones, and you know the defense is going
to be pretty good. Plus they finished the year, I
think they were eight and two down the stretch, right,
(40:25):
is that right?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (40:27):
I mean I think that that AFC nor is going
to be a bear. There's not a bad team in
that Division. I fit's for certainly, it wouldn't shock me
if it's for somehow found a way to win the North.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
I got one more for you, Albert.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Minnesota's a thirteen win team last year. There's no buzz.
No one really talks.
Speaker 4 (40:46):
About them really making a run.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
I'm not sure if you got there or not, but
just kind of curious, like, why are people I mean,
Brian Florest comes in to coach the defense. I think
it's a better fit for the personnel they have. I'm
just kind of curious why people aren't looking at them
as a legitimate, like playoff contender in the NFC, given
what the NFC looks like.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
Yeah, I think I think a part of it, well,
I mean I think a part of it is people
like habitually underrate Kirk Cousins. And I'm not saying Kirk
cuss is, like not saying he's homes are Allen or Burrow,
but he's a pretty good player. So I think that's
part of it. I think, you know, a big part
of it is I think you have to look this up.
I don't have it in front of me. I think
they were nine to zero in one score games last year,
(41:27):
so you know part of it is probably you figure
that's not going to happen again, and if they play
that many close games again, then that's going to be
a factor.
Speaker 13 (41:34):
And then yeah, but let's say let's hold on, but
let's let let's say they lose four of those, so
they're a nine to eight football team in that instance,
like maybe give him a win two or here, Like
I don't.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Know, I kind of looked at I kind of look
at it, just go what am I missing? Like why
are people given how bad their defense was last year.
Speaker 12 (41:53):
And good and good, good systems on both sides of
all right, like you know that, like we know, we
know Flow can coach defense, we know we know Kevin
can coach offense. So yeah, I'm with you, Like I
think that I think that program's in a really good
place now. The question to me is, like you are
taking some key pieces out and this was sort of
their reset year. This is when they were going to
(42:14):
go in and they were going to kind of reset
their cap, right, which is why Adam Feeln's gone, why
Dalvin Cook's gone, why Eric Kendrickson's gone, why Peterson's gone.
Right now, I think a lot of whether or not
they're able to get back to where you're talking about,
like that level is can they develop young players to
fill those spots right, Like so Jordan Hicks, Brian Asamoa
(42:36):
at linebacker where Eric HENDRICKX used to be. You know,
where does Madison kJ Osborne look like next to Justin Jefferson,
Alexander Madison and Dalvin Cooks old spot. They've got young
corners to replace Pat Peterson to meat ask the question,
you know, and you still have some of the guys
that were a huge part of what they built over
the years that are back there too, you know. I
(42:57):
mean the Neil Hunter is still there obviously, Harris and
Smith is i think the dean of the entire operation
now and it's huge to have him in the in
the fold. But yeah, I mean I think that's a
big part of it too, is that you're resetting in
some key positions and it's going to be on you know,
Kevin and and Flora is not just to you know,
build great build build good systems and call good games.
(43:20):
It's also going to be on them to develop a
lot of young talent and some of those spots that
have been held down by those guys for so long.
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter
at the MMQB. Always kind enough to join us here
on a Thursday morning, Albert, we appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week as we get set for Lions
Chiefs to kick off the season.
Speaker 12 (43:39):
That's right, all right, thanks guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
There he is, Albert Breer, dealing with.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
On the settler was ready to get them.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
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