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some advice that apparently was handed out to a potential
future Hall of Famer in the NFL. That advice from
none other than Sean Payton, who's a fan favorite amongst
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the New York Jets brass. Everybody thrilled with Sean Payton
and Sean Payton's comments earlier this offseason. But apparently Sean Payton,
when he took over the job with the Denver Broncos,
told Russell Wilson that he needs to focus less on
Russell inc And said, quote this, according to Seth Wickersham,
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who wrote a big piece about Russell Wilson and Sean
Payton and taking over in Denver, quote, will you effing
stop kissing all the babies. You're not running for public office.
So that's a fun way to start off game week
as the Denver Broncos find themselves four point favorites at
home against the Las Vegas Raiders, which are going to
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be in the news later on as we'll get to
very interesting things going Vegas.
Speaker 7 (02:24):
Personally, ask this question.
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Yeah, why do you think all this stuff is becoming public?
Speaker 7 (02:31):
Like Sean Payton obviously is letting this stuff get out there.
He worked in the media for a year.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
He clearly understands the media how it works, and when
he says things how things are going to hit people,
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (02:46):
Do you think he wants all this to be Mountain known?
I do.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I think he wants it to be some of the
things that are getting like I guess things.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
Like why would you want or need all of this
to be known?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah, I think it's a great I think that's a
great question. And I don't know what the why of
it is, but I could take a stab at this
one in particular. I mean, he had time to monitor
and see the situation in Denver for what it was
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as as a former coach, but also as an active
media member. And I think in a way, when you
do things like this, you're actually freeing Russell Wilson from
a lot of the negative energy that's probably been coming
his way. For some strange reason, Russell Wilson has become
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so easy to target and malign and it's not in
my estimation from everything I know, I don't know Russell Wilson.
But from everyone that I've ever known, who has ever
been around him and who knows him personally, thinks he
is just an awesome dude. Like I've never heard anyone
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that I know that knows him say anything bad about him.
And so I think, if you know how Sean Payton is,
I got a chance to get to know Sean Payton.
Sean Payton is one of those no nonsense, like I'll
say it to your face, not behind your back, type
of guy. And I think he's just kind of putting
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it out there to the public that he doesn't have
to kiss babies and act like he's running for office.
He doesn't have to have this like kind of you know,
maybe a manufactured persona of what he thinks the public
or what he wants the public to think about him.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
Get back to playing ball.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
And I think by putting that out there in a way,
it becomes a uniting, a uniting type of thing. I
don't really take this as derogatory, you know. I don't
take this as negative or he's attacking Russ. I think
he's just setting a tone and it's like, look, you
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you are the man, like you're going to be the
reason why we win this year. So stop worrying about
like stuff that's immateial right now. Don't worry about kissing babies.
You're not running for office, Like, let's go win games,
like let's play ball. I just kind of feel like
that if you put it in context, I think he's
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trying to take some of the negative, negative coverage or
the negative feelings about him, and he's basically like, in
my estimation, he's almost putting it on himself.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
It's like, let me do it, let me take that.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
I think he's concerned Russ has got confidence issues because
of how bad last year went, and he's like he's
trying to toughen him up publicly. O Hey man, I'm
calling you out.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 6 (05:57):
You're being sarcast No, I swear to God, Like, what
are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Like stop kissing babies? Play better?
Speaker 7 (06:02):
What are you going to do? So hold on? You
think he's trying to play like like bully or like
thread to again.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
No, just letting him know, like, hey man, like you're
better than this.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
Don't let last year, you know, just steer you in
another direction in your career, like do something about.
Speaker 7 (06:16):
It can I can I be honest to what I
think he's trying to do. What do you what do
you think?
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Well, first of all, I think he's trying to turn
around his career based on how things looked last year,
because I think he's looking at last year and saying, well,
this is the floor, this is what things can look
like moving forward.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
And is this how you want to be remembered?
Speaker 8 (06:35):
And do you want to start building all this other
stuff for after your career and that after your career
might come sooner than you think, or do you want
to get back to focusing on football, being all about
ball and let someone else build that stuff. You could
be a part of it in the off season, or
have someone who keeps you in the loop, but focus on football, because.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
That's that's why you can have a brand.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
It's why you can have you know, other things outside
of football, whether it's a clothing brand, whether it's you know,
different retail shops, investments, and all these other things going
on that was all made possible through football. And not
many athletes lose sight of this, but some do. They
get kind of caught up in it where they get
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caught up thinking you're a businessman, and it's like, no,
you are the business man, and your business is football,
and the rest of everything that comes to you out
around you is because of football, and so you have
to try to play as long as you can, as
successfully as you can, and once it ends, then you
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can transition into a businessman.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
But too many guys sometimes get caught up and like thinking, hey, man,
I can do it all.
Speaker 8 (07:51):
No, you can go look at some of the most
successful people. They have been incredible in one area of
their life, superhuman all right, in other areas a lot
of times lacking. They're either deficient in their personal relationships
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or their romantic relationships with their spouse and girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever,
or they're really good at this, but they have no
ability to do that, and so that happens all the time,
and that's okay, there's nothing wrong with that. Like there's
no one who's really just great at being able to
do everything. Maybe really good, not great, in not elite,
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not world class. And Russell at one point his time,
was playing at a world class level in his career.
And I think Sean Payton, who's done it before, winning
a Super Bowl, who's been with a quarterback who's a
first ballot Hall of Famer in Drew Brees is trying
to say to him, Hey, man.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
I can get you back to that.
Speaker 8 (08:52):
I can get you another super Bowl if you just
focus on football.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's why I think the messages. I'm with you. And
let's add this to the to the equation too. Again
just just building off of the perception and the observations.
It became public domain that he had an office. It
became public domain that he had a fifty thousand square
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foot house with two bathrooms and two bedrooms, right and.
Speaker 7 (09:26):
By the way, which just doesn't make any sense. We
go back over that.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
We never got.
Speaker 8 (09:30):
Way too It wasn't it wasn't fifty It wasn't way
too much square I don't care if it's fifteen thousand.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
It was like twenty. I think it's too much square
footage for only two bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, I think you guys should be accurate about it.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
It's he had four bedrooms and there was like twelve bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It was the other way around.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
It was more bathrooms than it was bedrooms. Yeah, now
that makes sense. I mean, especially Jonas, you has all
sorts of dairy issues.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, but have a bowl of ice cream.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
You need multiple Yeah, I don't need twelve reminders that
I got to change my ox if I have a
bowl of cereal, Okay, all I need is two?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I mean there is that.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
I mean that's if you ask me, like what where? What?
What are you doing with that other? Uh? Well, how
unless those three bed.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Rooms are boss right, which that would make me feel
like it's a swinger crib too.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
So either way, you know what I mean? Like I
don't know, man like wait so like wait to soo
many bathrooms is equates to a swinger crib?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Yeah, I mean a few a few bed rooms, but
the rest of the house is just you only have
bat Like what are those rooms?
Speaker 7 (10:33):
And are there rooms consistent?
Speaker 6 (10:35):
Are there upside down pineapples in those rooms?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Are there upside pineapple flags on the outside of the house?
Speaker 7 (10:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Or pillowcases whatever?
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Or told me out of Rondack chairs. Those chairs they
kind of fold up and you put in your front porch.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
What. Yeah. I was like, there's no way that's it.
He was like, no, the meat Wagon told me that. Now.
Speaker 8 (10:57):
Granted, the meat Wagon I think was messing with me
because he helped me put together two Adirondack chairs that
we put on our front porch.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
So I think he was like trying to mess with me,
but I'm not entirely sure.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I mean, what, you need two people to put those together?
Speaker 8 (11:11):
Yeah, it was actually one of those deals that were
like just came completely disassembled, and so there was a
couple of parts where it was faster to put both
together with two people.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
But it was there was.
Speaker 8 (11:22):
A lot of like there's a lot of things going on,
man to put those things together.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
By the way, Adarondack chairs are expensive. I didn't know
they were that expensive.
Speaker 7 (11:29):
I don't know. They can't be. I think we got
these so they weren't that bad.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Yeah, but that's so apparently upside down Pineapple at Arondack
chairs and twelve bathrooms and four bedrooms in the Russell
Wilson house allegedly. I'd also like to point out here
I'm sick and tired of the fact that that story
about him having an office made the rounds when Brady
Quinn told that story weeks in advance, weeks in advance
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at Russell Wilson at his own office and parking spot,
and yet people got a hold of it later on.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We never got the credit we deserved here on the show.
Speaker 8 (12:02):
Well it's David Ghetto was this agent. It probably would
have been some sort of attack plan, you know.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Great point, then a photo that came out later on
again great point, and.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Then then maybe it would have became public.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Now, So I find myself, especially after now that we've
unveiled that, you know, he could have some Adirondack chairs
and upside down pineapples in some of those bathrooms or
bedrooms there at the house. But do you guys find
yourself rooting for Russell Wilson to have a bounce back
year because I feel like I've.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Never rooted for him to have a bad year.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Well, but the jokes were there, they wrote themselves.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
They've been there, like Corneus Man alive, right.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
The danger which all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeh, the suits that he was wearing to the games
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Like, I hope he bounces back really too.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And and I think that Sean Payton is that type
of guy that that can do it like he can
you know, you saw what he did in the movie
when they you know, they made.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
The movie about him.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
I mean he had them young, always believing that they
could do it. I think he can redo that with
with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Yeah, no doubt, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
That's what I feel. That's what I believe.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Sean Payton is the one, and after watching that movie,
I really believe that that's that's what's going to happen.
Like they're going to turn this around. Yeah, they're going
to win it all now and then and then Russ
can go back to danger witches and and you know,
kissing babies and stuff like that, because Sean Payton will
probably be right there with them.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Are the Denver Broncos a playoff.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Team they can be?
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Can I give you what I did?
Speaker 8 (13:44):
And this is this is a really really cool website.
So there is a website called I do this every year.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I think.
Speaker 8 (13:50):
I think it's one of the coolest things to do
because it completely changes your mind in what you think
is going to happen. If you're a gambler, better out there,
do this activity at least once, if not a few
times to give yourself a little bit of a sample size.
But it's called Playoff Predictors dot Com. And what you
do is you go through every week of the NFL
regular season and it then spits out obviously the results
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and it's pretty cool because it informs you of like a.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
Buye if it's an international game.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
All those sorts of things, you know, Thursday, you know,
Sunday night, Monday night are everything. And I just I
literally was just going through this morning and it's crazy because,
for example, I like, I came up with the result
and I've got like three teams that are twelve and
five at the top the AFC. If I have to
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if I had to give you my number one overall seed,
who would it be?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh man, uh the Bills?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
No h in the AFC? Who would be your number
one seed?
Speaker 8 (14:53):
By the way, three teams are tied at twelve and five,
but this team wins via tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Chargers no.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Jacksonville, Yes.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
And when you look at their schedule and you compare
it to the rest of the division. And I'll talk
about this with Pete Prisco yesterday, and he made a
very compelling case that Jacksonville's gonna be the number one overall.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Seed in the AFC.
Speaker 8 (15:18):
They at least get to the Visional Round and then
you only got to win a couple of games. And
so he's he's got them playing in the Super Bowl
for that reason. Now, My counter to that is the
last three years, since the NFL has gone to seven
teams on each conference side, we always tend to say
think that, like, oh man, like this division is gonna
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be really tough. You know, there's no way this team's
gonna make it through and make.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
It to the super Bowl.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
However, the last three years where we've had seven teams
on each side, only one time, one time has a
division that made it into the playoffs and not had
multiple teams two or more teams, and that was three
years ago. So you uly, you've got like whatever division
we think is strong, whether it's the AFC East the
AFC North, which in this particular case, I mean maybe
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I'm just biased to the AFC North, but I've got
three teams making it, and I.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Think, see, based on what's that, I can see three
teams easily out of that.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well.
Speaker 8 (16:17):
The crazy thing is I've got three teams making it,
and I've got them all at ten wins or more.
Speaker 7 (16:22):
But the high mark is since NATI AD twelve and five.
So and that's a.
Speaker 8 (16:27):
Little bit of a byproduct of their their schedule outside
of the division and who they play. But I would
encourage a lot of people to go out there, man,
like go I mean, and by the way, that's like
looking at the AFC East with the Bills at eleven
and six, the Jets at ten and seven, the Dolphins
at nine and eight, the Patriots eight and nine, like
that's all kind of right there in the mix.
Speaker 7 (16:46):
So it's it's kind of crazy when.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
You do these sorts of activities because it completely changes
the way you actually think about how things are going
to work out. And my whole my whole thing was
I always put a lot of onus on home field advantage.
So if I'm ever in out between a matchup in
a game, I'm looking saying, Okay, I'm giving them the
benefit of doubt.
Speaker 7 (17:03):
They're playing at home.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Oh I just did one says the Raiders are going
to be eleven and six.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
No, it didn't. Yeah, you actually do it yourself. You
don't do it auto.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Let's say let's just stakin. Yeah, I'm looking.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
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Speaker 9 (18:25):
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Speaker 2 (18:31):
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Speaker 7 (18:38):
Is this?
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Wait till it's the chorus. Wait, wait, wait, wait, all.
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Speaker 7 (19:08):
Yeah, wow for the lift fiends to the road.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Nor do they have one of Super Bowl since the
nineteen twenties?
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Yikes, nikes.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Got Lee's fired up? Lis so fired up?
Speaker 6 (19:25):
He's wearing sunglasses in the studio at fort twenty eight
in the morning.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yeah, why wouldn't you? It's for twenty eight in the
morning for you. You know, he's still in Dublin time.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe Here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you. We are going to hand out some awards
coming up here and we'll call it twenty minutes from
now from the tire raq dot Com studio. So would you,
guys say, I mean, the stats are there, but Chandler
Jones got an opportunity to be a Hall of Famer, correct.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Without a doubt? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (19:56):
So well, I mean apparently things are going all that
smooth when it comes to the Las Vegas Raiders. These
were all deleted from his Instagram, but he went in
on the Raiders and just posted some screenshots of text
messages reading as such, how do you expect me to
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play this season? I can't even get my GM on
the phone. Thanks for that portal. Should I call Josh
McDaniels or will he not pick up either? Why y'
all bring me to Vegas to play with me? And
then he said, it's a shame that I am a
top top athlete with one hundred and twelve sacks in
the NFL and I have to go to a local
gym to work out during the season for no apparent reason.
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This is wild to me, Josh, and you know you
need to do what's right. Then he wrote, and they
had direct contact to my BM, and we ain't been
together for five years. Some lady reporting to her about
how I was at work when I don't even talk
to her about work or anything in person, like how
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you know my BM? Provoked? They won't let me in
the building, though, Labar, you want to fill the.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
Can you explain to the audience what a BM is?
I don't know what a BM is. It Okay, I
guessing I'm not doing it today. I'm not doing it today.
To get me to do it today.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Then he that he wrote, man, okay, okay, all right,
I think.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Mama, But okay, you know, baby, Mama, you know it's
up for interpretation, but he also finished off with it,
I don't want to play for the Raiders if that's
my head coach at GM. I want Patrick Graham ivy
League N word with a salute.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
What's in word? Can y'all tell me what that is?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Not doing it? Johnson?
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Can y'all tell me what word is?
Speaker 2 (22:01):
That's a negative? Johnson? Yeah, Johnson, Yeah, Well but that.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
Is Chamber Jones who deleted all those And there's been
no explanation as to what happened, much like there was
really no explanation as to why he showed up outside
a police station with his shirt off back in New
England and just got down on his knees and put
his hands in the air. I guess he got a
hold of that synthetic stuff and uh oh, was you know,
(22:27):
riding a dragon like he was Kalisi and then decided
we go ahead and just let let the authorities take over. So, look,
he's in Vegas. There's a lot to do in Vegas.
We're going to be there for the Super Bowl. I mean,
maybe he was sipping and ripping. Maybe he was celebrating
the life of Jimmy Buffett and just just letting it
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fly a little bit there in Vegas and got after
it and went on social media. It's a little weird
that he can't get into the gym though. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
That is weird.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Where do you think he went twenty four hour fitness
or someplace like that.
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Where do you think this is born out of?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Is this like a synthetic weed?
Speaker 7 (23:05):
No? No, dude, mushrooms. No. I'm not saying what drug.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
I'm saying, like, what would provoke someone to put this
out there?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Like?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Is all this legitimate?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
Is this like some sort of you know, is there
a contractual dispute that's going on behind the scenes that
we're not aware of. I mean, I'm just trying to
figure out, Well, I don't know why you want to
make any of this stuff public. I never like, I know,
he's technically under contract I believe until twenty twenty seven,
but there's a few voidable years attached to it, and
(23:40):
so I think after this year they can get out
from underneath his deal. Like he's only got twelve point
two of dead cap next year. This year, it's it's
still too much, so I'll be there. But I think
maybe there's something going on behind the scenes in regards
to restructuring.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
I mean, if you fall what happened with John Jones,
his brother throughout the course of his career. Yeah, you know,
kind of some uh erratic behavior at times.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Oh, come on to be that guy.
Speaker 7 (24:10):
Yeah, I'm not going to touch on this. I'm gonna
sit this one out. Man.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Well come on, LaVar, let's yeah, let's talk about this.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
I'm generally not afraid of anything, but and I'm not
going to say I'm afraid of the Jones family. I
just know I would not be able to defend myself.
Well if for some reason that happened to see them
out at the Super Bowl in Vegas or anything like that,
and they looked at you know, I interview Bones Jones
one time, and you know, he's the pretty tall dude.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
I love that dude.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Greatest of all time.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
I'd like to keep it that way. I'd like to
keep us cool.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Greatest of all time.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah, well, I.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Could say that if you want to right now. But
you're talking about them being erratic with their behavior and
all that stuff. I just don't want that smoke.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
Ain't me. You're not going to be me.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
There's just been some some moments of odd behavior. I'm
just saying, there have been those moments.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
And behavior like the like they're in the principal's office.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You you know, hit and run the UI.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
A couple of those popped up, you know, getting into
it with you know, someone else.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Your better half.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Typically some of the stuff caught on video with cops,
uh you know, talking with body cam footage of saying
some weird stuff to it like it just there's just
some stuff that's no.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I'm just saying, like, we've got to We've got to tell.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
The story as the story has happened, and that's been
the story. And I just wonder, is this one of
those moments or is he really upset and would like
more money or just wants to get the hell out
of Vegas because the place he thought he was going too,
much like DeVante Adams, is completely different in what a
year and a half he's been there, Like it's just
completely changed.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
And so maybe he looks like maybe we got catfished
a little.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
We thought we were going to have this team and
we were in Vegas and Derek Carr was going to
be our quarterback, and now it's just this weird situation
where nobody can figure out what the plan is, you know,
after the Gruden fiasco, Mark Davis, you know, and they
got a super Bowl coming to town and it looks
like the Raiders aren't going to be a part of
that game.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
So well, they will be a part of it, that's true.
I'm just said it might be the closest they get
to it, but they are hosting.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It, Raider logos everywhere.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
Yeah, so very strange stuff there. So labar any thoughts
on Nope?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
What what else do you think is going on there?
Speaker 7 (26:39):
Nope? No, I do know this. It will be a miracle.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
If the Las Vegas Raiders have a successful season, it
would be nothing short of a miracle.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
So there you go.
Speaker 8 (26:57):
Is that more because their roster, their schedule, their division
they're playing, is their division happens to be pretty tough?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Like what makes you say that? I just think all
of it. I think all of it.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I've told you, Like, for one, it's I'm gonna start
with how difficult the West is at the top, how
top heavy it is. They don't like, let's start here.
They do not have a chance in hail to win
the AFC West. I mean, I'm just being that's just
being honest, like something like we would have full blown
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winter with snow and hail and all kinds of stuff
like that in California before the Las Vegas Raiders win
the AFC West.
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Like I'll start there, all.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Right, let me ask you a questions.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
But if you bet one hundred dollars on the Raiders
to win the AFC West, what would you think your
return would be?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
I'd be significant, six hundred and fifty dollars, Okay, more,
I'm gonna go one thousand. It'd probably be more than
I think it's going to be more.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Yeah, how's how's sixteen hundred work for you?
Speaker 8 (28:04):
What sound there's sixteen to one? Yeah, that's got to
be towards the bottom of the league.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Huh.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
I think the Cardinals are. Yeah, the Cardinals are thirty
five to one to win their division.
Speaker 8 (28:17):
I mean, LaVar is basically calling the AFC West Dolly Parton.
You know, there's all top heavies. I was always a.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Very top heavy Yeah, all right, there's a better It
makes of sense.
Speaker 6 (28:27):
There's a better chance of the Lakers winning the NFC
West and the Cardinals, but the Raiders find themselves in
those in that company. So to LaVar's point, there's really
not a shot in hell for them this.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Year, So then the question becomes can they be So
then can they be a wildcard team out of the
AFC West Jonas odds.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
For the playoff spot? Please?
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Uh vamp please?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Is that nine to one? I mean, it can't be
that much better?
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Is it ten to one to make the playoffs? The
Las Vegas Raiders are plus three eighty Yeah, so maybe
a potential one stop that.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
I tell you, you guys got to do that little activity.
Go online and do it, because I was like shocked
by by some of the teams.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Like I had I just signed up. So now you
got to do it, man, you will have.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
To sign up. You can literally do it for free.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Okay, Well, I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
You're talking about.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
What I saw.
Speaker 8 (29:19):
I just there's no wonder you're the type of guy
that gets that email or like, oh yeah, I did
have a long lost uncle who potentially was worth millions
and millions of dollars. Where can I send my social
social security information? Here's my birthday, here's my mailing address.
What else do you need?
Speaker 7 (29:38):
I mean, listen, I just my routing and account number information.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I don't think that's necessary.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
I'm just saying, like, what do you sign it up for?
It's it's a free deal, hey said, I just signed up.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
I did it. Said if I wanted to do it,
I had to sign up for it. You know, dude, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
Walk me through it later. The point is the su
the Raiders. I'm telling you the Raiders. The Raiders are
not going to be a playoff team this year.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think that's the point. I think that is the point.
So saying that either so, yeah, no, I'm not. It's
not one of my Bowl predictions of the year.
Speaker 7 (30:15):
You know. Can we get a bullet prediction today? Though?
We gotta get like one a day until Colorado. He's
going to lose Saturday? Man?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Oh wow, say it one.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
More time, very clearly. I'm sorry to do this. Colorado
is called lose Saturday.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:34):
So who are you saying, LeVar Arrington is going to
beat Colorado?
Speaker 7 (30:38):
Nebraska? Oh man, Nebraska's going away crimes were keeping them receipts.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I mean, I stand on it. I'm not saying it
because I'll put it this.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Way, Colorado is not even gonna win. They're gonna cover.
Speaker 8 (30:52):
Okay, here's here's a tough thing about watching what I
witnessed last week in person, and then in my preparation
for both those games. So I was watching a lot
of Georgia tech film and watching Jeff Simms while he
was playing there, and I tried to when I'm watching
past film of a player, I try to watch their
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best game, their worst game that season, and something in between,
like usually versus a pretty tough opponent, to see how
they handle that. And sometimes that ends up being the
worst game, so you're kind of picking a more average
game too, And what you get is you get the ceiling,
the floor, and then maybe what the player is most often.
One of the things that stood out was he just
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turns the football over too much. And I was talking
to Joel Klatt, who obviously is calling the game, he's
doing a lot of film for it, and I'm like, dude,
I think he's got all the tools. I think he's
got a strong enough arm. He's incredibly athletic, you know.
I think he's accurate when he gets time in the pocket,
doesn't getting pressure. And I still stand by that, Like,
you go watch him throw warm ups, You're like, all right,
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this guy doesn't have an accuracy issue. But once you
put the pads on and you get him out there
in live game scenario, the problemse is he's not looking
off the defense, he's not reading the defense. He's just
kind of staring down where he's throwing. And in two
separate instances that led to interceptions of the three he had.
And at some point you just have to say, all right,
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like either the guy can go and progress and can
do it, or he can't. And the one thing I
can definitively tell you is Shodowath Sanders.
Speaker 7 (32:28):
Doesn't do that like he's He's just a.
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Very very well coached, smart, good decision maker with the football.
And so if you are purely basing a game off,
one stat that tends to dictate it more often than
not is the turnover margin. It's just that, like I
just I after all the tape I've watched and seeing
it at Nebraska then in the first game, I know
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Minnesota is a good defense, tough team and all that,
I just worry that you're going to see a couple
turnovers and that's going to turn the game.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I just think they're going to see a better defense
in Nebraska and what they did with TCU and I
don't trust Colorado's their defense. I don't trust Colorado's defense.
That's my in particular, their line. I just don't trust
their D line.
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Speaker 4 (35:19):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and uly all right.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Lead to lap who's got what well?
Speaker 10 (35:31):
As we do each and every week, we start with
the good, and this week we have LeVar letting the
shots far.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with being in state college, able
to call the game, you know, being able to see
them in a quality first week matchup. But the oh
shouts out to Zimbi's and by the way, they they
hit me up yesterday and and it.
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Shouts out to them. Man, But Drew Aller like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Hell yeah, really really good and it's only going to
get better too, greater. So yeah, that was my good
being back in PA. I'm hitting back this weekend as well. Yeah,
I don't. I don't think I've ever done two weeks
in a row since leaving school. I was gonna get you, man, Yeah,
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well I mean it. I'm I'm excited about it is
what I would say. I'm excited about going back and yeah,
so that was my good.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Well, guys can have good without the bad. Brady, what
was bad this week?
Speaker 7 (36:34):
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (36:35):
I mean there's a number of things you could point to, right,
I mean, Clemson's lost that looked bad. Ohio State didn't
look great so much, so they dropped a couple of spots.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
But lsu, I.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
Mean an entire offseason to prepare and that sort of
performance out there. And I don't want to put it
so much on the players too. As I said before,
To me, it was the game plan. Like I still
can't get over the fact you're trying to make one
of the better edge rushers in college football, Harold Perkins,
who jumped on the scene last year I think when
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he had nine nine and a half sacks something like that,
on the cusp of being maybe a top you know
three as far as edge rusher. And in a matchup
where you thought, Okay, we're gonna have Harold Perkins Junior
on one side, rushing off the edge, Gerald Vers who
could be a top ten pick on the other side,
Florida State rushing off the edge, and instead we've got
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a game plan where you're dropping your best edge rusher
into coverage and absolutely just allowing Jordan Travis to dice
you up hitting Keon Coleman a number of times in
this game for touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (37:41):
So that was the bad because it was really bad.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well from really bad to worse. What was ugly this week?
With Jonas aw my picks.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
Everything, everything I touched just vaporized into a giant bag
of craft. I mean you thought LSU and Clemson were bad.
I was bullish on Hawaii against Stanford and Hawaii looked awful.
I was bullish on South Carolina against North Carolina and
that game wasn't close. It's just everything I touched, Like
you know, LSU Florida State awful. I thought LSU MIGHTUS
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one and a half. It's sad because I opened up
perfect in week zero and then once we get to
week one, I just defecate down.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
The side of my leg. Pees really unfortunate.
Speaker 7 (38:26):
That was aggressive.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
You said ugly, what do you want?
Speaker 7 (38:29):
I was forced and ugly