September 6, 2023 • 49 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Travis Kelce hyperextends his knee. Sean Payton gives Russell Wilson the hard truth. Brady is high on the Jags this season and The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to recap this week in College Football.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with LaVar Arings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here boys on a Wednesday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
A little humpy LeVar. Yeah, for me, these.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Short weeks are a little odd. It's already Wednesday. We
got a game coming up tomorrow. Just feels like it
just jumps out and gets you. You know, we got
petros An hour three and it's all downhill from there. Yeah,
everybody fired up here for a for a Wednesday edition
of the program.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Here and the everyone's.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Fired up and it's listen. It's good to have the
star of the Joe Rogan podcast, Brady Quinn on the
show as well too.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's really what you want to lead off the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, I just wanted to figure bring that up. We
would catch the show.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I wasn't off. He's fabricating things.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Tell us more, stretching a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, tell us more about Joe. Just tell us more so.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Shane Gillis, who was the comedian who had.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He's on Netflix. I looked him up after he consult
me too.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, he was on Joe Rogan's podcast and he retold
the near fight story with the snow blowing out UFC
fighter whoever it was.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
In parts, there's some parts that were we kind of
could tell the story for entertainment purposes only what was
I think after this older bouncer like popped them in
the face and they like busted up his nose and
we're kind of now question it was just more of
the cocaine or if it was actually a UFC fighter.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, here's the thing. You could be a UFC fighter,
you just might not be one of the good ones.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Like someone's category, someone's gonna be the guy to get
to the title.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, that's that's I mean, just everybody's got to have
like that open end fight that they you know, it's like, yeah,
let's take this fight and it's a good matchup.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Everybody has that one guy that they take, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was nice to see the appearance there midst football season,
we got a big new and kickoff.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Gillis is a PA due too by the way, he
is a homework on it.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
He played football, He played ball, played ball army than eli.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, so do the army thing.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
That's the corest thing about being around him is it
reminds you of like hanging around because he was a
former offensive lineman and they just have a different, different perspective.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, and they're just the smartest. They're the smartest dude. Actually,
they say by position that they have the highest IQs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We like think the quarterbacks are.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I'm just telling you what what the studies used to
say back when, you know, back way then that you
know the line went back white higher, Yeah, like way
back then.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So I don't know. I think there's a lot of
dumb quarterbacks out there.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I think there's some really really smart ones. But sometimes
I think it's kind of overstated how smart some of
these qbs are.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
If you think about it, though, Like the position that
offensive linemen are in, I mean it kind of is
a smart position to be in. I mean you're not
really taking the hit, right, like you're preventing other people
from getting hits, and you're physically up there in a
lone of scrimmage. But you got four other dudes with you,
maybe more right, you might have like five maybe six,
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like helping you kind of block and do stuff. So
you got helm there's like five of you, so sometimes
no one really knows whose fault it is of someone
messaud like and then also like you can't get blamed
for a drop, can't get blamed for a fumble, you know,
like you're kind of in a position where, yeah, if
like you completely get beat by a guy, people are
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going to blame you. But sometimes it's hard to see
even that or even know whose fault it really was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So I don't know, maybe it is a smarter position
to be in Laban story.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's also more difficult to vote guys into the Hall
of Fame because nobody knows what the hell good offensive
lineman is.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah it's Joe Thomas, though it is true.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, when you're dominant, you're dominant, though you know it
is what it is. But so Kareem McKenzie. You guys
know that name. He played for the New York Giants,
you know, Super Bowl Chap. I think he was on
both teams too bad. By the way, anyway, he went
to Penn State and one time, this one time we
went to this wing spot, Cluck you Chicken.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You guys remember Clok you Chicken? I don't, but it
sounds good.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It was really good, right, So they had really good wings,
and we went and got some wings and I got
the wings I got. I got one wing that they
they use that you have to eat to get on
the wall. And it's like one of those those wings
that's like really really yet it's like super hot, like
don't don't touch it with your fingers, like you all
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that type stuff. And I mixed it in a thing
of wings. I mixed one of them man with with
a thing of wings, and I gave him the Kareem
McKenzie and I was like, man, I'm I'm I'm fool,
I'm done, like and Remo was like, yeah, I take them,
no problem, man.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
He took them, left the room, no problem. This and
that we are we locked the door.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
We're laughing, let me laughing our asses off, you know,
like crying, laughing so hard because we're thinking that you know,
it's gonna it's gonna hit him, you know what I mean,
like you geez, like the movies. And so like three
minutes later you hear the door opens, then he comes
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running down hall.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Stars.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I didn't know what to do because I was laughing,
but I was scared that I was so scared he
was gonna try to kill me. Mad like he hate
lit into that wing. He wasn't a bit eating them
so fast. He ain't realized that it was one of
the hot ones. And why would you you gotta trust
your teeth, make mad I should the wings right, they
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were bone in.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, he may have rubbed his eyes afterwards.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Oh my god, if you could hear, I wish I
could reenact, like really like what you could hear, like
the anger and the pain in his voice all at
the same time. But yeah, he ended up beating my legs.
I had some really badly. And yes, I'm I'm a
brown man, but these bruises yet you you could, you
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could see them. He punched my legs about maybe eight
nine times that I might have lost count there, but yeah,
it was It's pretty fun moment. Man. Well, Wellnemen are
different dudes, man, They're wired different. And I had to
take the ass whipping because they're not going to stop.
Hope he wasn't going to stop. He was going to
get me.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hopefully he didn't hyper extend your knee or anything like that.
Much like it's a problem for the Kansas City Chief.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I mean Chris, Chris, where is Chris Jones?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Man?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Was he with a voodoo doctor or something like that.
Man is he in New Orleans like right now, laughing
somewhere with a hurricane?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like what the hell?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But Travis Kelce, the all Pro, All World Future Hall
of Fame tight end of the Kansas City Chiefs, hyper
extended his right knee and practice on Tuesday and tests
were done. Kansas City believes the ACL is intact. He's
going to continue to be tested, but you know, there's
major questions as to whether or not he's going to
be available coming up tomorrow. I know doctor David Chow
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says it's doubtful on Twitter that that he would be
ready to go. But the good news is obviously not
out for the year because the ACL is intact. But
doesn't it lead to this is another reason why it's
really hard to repeat his champion in the NFL, because
there's just stuff like this that pops up. There's an
element of breaks or luck or good fortune that Super
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Bowl champion teams end up having. And the Chiefs feel
like they found themselves starting off on the wrong spot.
And the gambling line would tell you as much. Courtesy
of our friends at DraftKings, they were a seven point
favorite in some spots six and a half points yesterday
and now on DraftKings that is down to four and
a half. So there's some real concern about whether or
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not Kansas City is going to look like Kansas City
with no Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's surprising when you see a tight end move the
line two points. You know, most of the books, I saw
about six and a half. That's where it settled and
opened at seven. All the way down to four and
a half. I mean, that's that's like quarterback movement if
you're getting a starter out usually, But this just goes
to show you the significance of Travis Kelcey's you know,
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chemistry with Patrick Mahomes. You know, even without Tyreek Hill
last year, you know, those two didn't miss a beat.
And then maybe it's it tells you a little bit more.
And I'll just ask you two guys, look at the roster.
Eliminate Travis Kelsey and then tell me if as a
defense like who scares you? And mind you? Kadarius Tony
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was limited practice with knee injury. One of the player
was as well. But if Travis Kelcey isn't there now,
they obviously don't have Tyreek Hill. After winning Super Bowl
without him last year. But who else scares you on
this offense where you really feel like you need to
game plan for scant.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, not gang plan.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I mean that's a tabet extreme, don't I don't for
any of the guys. I mean I like Scantling, you know,
I like Markus Scanting. I mean I'm not am I
gang planning them?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like third down, red zone,
you're not bracketing, you're not double coveraging. You're not like
playing like a red one where you're move the safety
over to wherever Kelsey's at to try to give a
little extra help and take him away, or like those
doubles coverages that you'll see like you're not gonna see
that as much.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, and and and furthermore to that point, Q, you
can probably kind of bold and boke up and say
we're going man. And if you're able to successfully play man,
it makes it. It makes it a lot. You have
more options on defense if you can lock more guys
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down than not in man coverage, you can, you can
run different types of blitzes, you can you can move
around a little bit more, and you can make it
really really difficult on those offensive linemen because you can
start to kind of overload you know, different parts of
the line at different different times, and and that's you know,
it's going to be up to obviously, and he's great
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at it, prereads Patrick Mahomes. But it's still become very
stressful if you don't have that one guy that you know,
you got a bracket coverage or we just cannot sit
in a man coverage with this guy. We gotta do
something and we gotta be paying attention to where he
is at all times. It takes a lot of stress
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off of a defense when you don't have that guy
on the field.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I mean, and then you're going to get the Lions
in there and Dan Campbell and the fighting Dan Campbell's
are going to bring in the mouth. Oh yeah, they're
looking to do some damage, especially in that game.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I just make a statement certain, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think that. And we talked about this last year
when it happened, you know, losing Tyreek Hill. Obviously it's
a big loss, but Travis Kelsey's really the number one
and that was the one to where well, you can't
afford to lose Travis Kelsey. And now I mean, look,
I don't know anything about hyper extended knees. This, you know,
two days before a game.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But we could probably do it to you in the
studio right now. Be very painful.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I feel like that.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, i'd be painful, but I mean you'd be fine eventually.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But here's the difference.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's like stubbing, stubbing your finger, Like have you ever
stubbed your finger?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
No, I hyper extended my knee. I just I don't
know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
What is it like?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, I don't. I don't know what it's like to
miss workers shows after doing it, but you know what
going to do?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I would still show up.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But you know what it feels like. Yeah, yeah, but
he wouldn't miss work like radio. He would not miss
no god no.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
When you hyper extended your knee, did you have crutches
or did you just still walk around?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Still walk around? Come on, man, you know I'm bilging please?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, And there's not a lot of need to hyper
extend if we're going to be honest here, all right,
When you're walking around on pool noodles and you hyper
extend your knee, it's a lot different than when Travis
Kelsey does it, so yeah, it just it's all good.
But if you're a Detroit he.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Is six five two fifty, that that is a weight
bearing limb. You know, that's you know, that's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Does he miss more than one game?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I mean, you can, you can recover pretty quickly from
from a hyper extension depending on like kind of like
the level of severity of it, and you can come back.
But it's still about kind of the comfort level, your
your pain tolerance level, the mobility. They're going to have
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to really do a good job of trying to probably
get like the blood and the swelling out of like the.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
In and around the need.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
There's probably going to be some fluid that's going to
be a build up in his quad and then his knee,
and what they're going to have to work to do
is really really keep that fluid from building up into
his quad, and they're going to have to make sure
his quad and his calf muscle is still firing. They're
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going to have to really really really do a lot
of like kind of rehabbing on the quad and the calf,
and then that's it's just going to be up to
what Kelsey. You know what his tolerance level was. Rington, Well,
I've done it. I've done it a few times and
and so I just you over the years, you start
to listen to the things that they say and you're
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able to kind of regurgitate it. So I'm not saying
it because I know it. I'm just saying it because
I heard it doctor Erring. Yeah, they put that stem
on all the little quad muscles. They'll put it on
the calf muscle. Yeah, they'll ice it there. Yeah, they'll
stretch it. But he's going to have to keep his
quad and it is his calf muscle very strong, and yeah,
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they're going to have to keep it like stretched out.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Do you do if you don't have a calf muscle
like some guys got small calves?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah or cal Yeah, I don't know. I have no
calves none. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'm a part of that. Everybody makes jokes with me
when I do my posts on social media, like you
skip leg day, Like, my legs don't grow.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Guy, man, people say that's you all the time.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Don't skip lag day like, and I don't have the man.
They I do not have the you skip leg day
legs that they have on the commercial with the dude
that's super big and then they show his legs and
he's got like like little little little little legs. Like
my legs aren't that little. They're little though they are little,
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not that speak these you do have little legs.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Thanks man, appreciate it man.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And some cultures that's considered to be very very sexy.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know cultures.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I mean I could tell you, but you know, I
was very racially driven yesterday and aduring our show away
from it today.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
A couple of countries, you piss off.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I don't want to go two days in a row
and making people upset.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, it's a probably smart move.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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Speaker 2 (16:12):
So we had some advice that apparently was handed out
to a potential future Hall of Famer in the NFL.
That advice from none other than Sean Payton, who's a
fan favorite amongst the New York Jets Brass. Everybody thrilled
with Sean Payton and Sean Payton's comments earlier this offseason.
But apparently Sean Payton, when he took over the job
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with the Denver Broncos, told Russell Wilson that he needs
to focus less on Russell inc And said quote this,
according to Seth Wickersham, who wrote a big piece about
Russell Wilson and Sean Payton and taking over in Denver, quote,
will you effing stop kissing all the babies. You're not
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running for public office. So that's a fun way to
start off game week as the Denver Broncos find themselves
four point favorites at home against the Las Vegas Raiders,
which are going to be in the news later on
as we'll get to very interesting things.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Ye ask this.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Question, Yeah, why do you think all this stuff is
becoming public?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Like Sean Payton obviously is letting this stuff get out there.
He worked in the media for a year.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
He clearly understands the media how it works, and when
he says things how things are going to hit people.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I'm just curious. Do you think he wants all this
to be mountain known? I do. I think he wants
it to be some of the things that are getting like.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I guess things like, why would you want or need
all this to be known?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, I think it's a great I think that's a
great question. And I don't know what the why of
it is, but I could take a stab at this
one in particular. I mean, he he had time to
monitor and see the situation in Denver for what it
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was as a former coach, but also.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
As an active media member.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And I think in a way, when you do things
like this, you're actually freeing Russell Wilson from a lot
of the negative energy that's probably been coming his way.
For some strange reason, Russell Wilson has become so easy
to target and malign. And it's not in my estimation
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from everything I know. I don't know Russell Wilson, but
from everyone that I've ever known, who has ever been
around him and who knows him personally, thinks he is
just an awesome dude. Like I've never heard anyone that
I know that knows him say anything bad about him.
And so I think, I think, if you know how
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Sean Payton is, I got a chance to get to
know Sean Payton. Sean Payton is one of those no
nonsense like I'll say it to your face not behind
your back type of guy.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And I think he's just.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Kind of putting it out there to the public that
he doesn't have to kiss babies and and act like
he's running for office. He doesn't have to have this
like kind of you know, maybe a manufactured persona of
what he thinks the public and or what he wants
the public to think about him get back to playing ball.
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And I think by putting that out there in a way,
it becomes a uniting, a uniting type of thing. I
don't don't I don't really take this as derogatory, you know.
I don't take this as negative or he's attacking russ.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I think he's just setting a tone and it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Look, you you are or the man, like you're going
to be the reason why we win this year. So
stop worrying about like stuff that's immateial right now. Don't
worry about kissing babies. You're not running for office. Like,
let's go win games, like let's play ball. I just
kind of feel like that, if you put it in context,
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I think he's trying to take some of the negative,
negative coverage or the negative feelings about him, and he's
he's basically like in my estimation, he's almost putting it
on himself.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's like, let me do it, let me take that.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think he's concerned Russ has got confidence issues because
of how bad last year went, and he's like he's
trying to toughen him up publicly. O Hey man, I'm
calling you out. What are you gonna do? You're being
sarcast No, I swear to God, Like what are you
gonna do about it? Like stop kissing babies? Play better?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
What are you gonna do? Hold on? You think he's
trying to play like like bully or like thread to again.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, just letting him know, like, hey man, like you're
better than this. Don't let last year you know, just
steer you in another direction in your career, like do
something about it?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Can I can? I be honest to what I think
he's trying to do. What do you think? Well?
Speaker 5 (21:07):
First of all, I think he's trying to turn around
his career based on how things looked last year, because
I think he's looking at last year and saying, well,
this is the floor, this is what things can look
like moving forward, and is this how you want to
be remembered? And do you want to start building all
this other stuff for after your career, and that after
your career might come sooner than you think, Or do
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you want to get back to focusing on football, being
all about ball and let someone else build that stuff
if you could be a part of it in the
off season, or have someone who keeps see the loop,
but focus on football.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Because that's that's why you can have a brand.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's why you can have you know, other things outside
of football, whether it's a clothing brand, whether it's you know,
different retail shops, investments, and all these other things going
on that was all made possible through football. And not
many athletes lose sight of this, but some do. They
get kind of caught up in it where they get
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caught up thinking you're a businessman, and it's like, no,
you are the business man, and your business is football
and the rest of everything that comes to you out
around you is because of football. And so you have
to try to play as long as you can, as
successfully as you can, and once it ends, then you
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can transition into a businessman.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
But too many.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Guys sometimes get caught up and like thinking, hey man,
I can do it all. No, you can go look
at some of the most successful people. They have been
incredible in one area of their life, superhuman all right,
in other areas a lot of times lacking. They're they're
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either deficient in their personal relationships or they're romantic relationships
with their spouse and girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever, or they're really
good at this, but they have no ability to do that,
and so that happens all the time, and that's okay,
there's nothing wrong with that. Like there's no one who's
really just great at being able to do everything. Maybe
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really good, not great, and now elite, not world class.
And Russell at one point his time, was playing at
a world class level in his career. And I think
Sean Payton, who's done it before, winning a Super Bowl,
who's been with a quarterback who's a first ballot Hall
of Famer in Drew Brees, is trying to say to him,
Hey man.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I can get you back to that.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I can get you another super Bowl if you just
focus on football.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
That's why I think the message is I'm with you.
And let's add this to the equation too. Again just
just building off of the perception and the observations. It
became public domain that he had an office. It became
public domain that he had a fifty thousand square foot
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house with two bathrooms and two bedrooms, right and.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
By the way, which just doesn't make any sense. We
go back over that. We never got way too It
wasn't it wasn't it wasn't way too much squirref I
don't care if it's fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It was like twenty. I think it's too much square
footage for only two bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, I think you guys should be accurate about it.
It's he had four bedrooms and there was like twelve bathrooms.
It was the other way around.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It was more bathrooms than it was bedrooms. Yeah, that
makes sense. I mean, especially Jonas, you has all sorts
of dairy issues.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, but a bowl of ice cream you need multiple Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I don't need twelve reminders that I got to change
my socks if I have a bull of cereal, Okay,
all I need is two? Yeah, I mean there is that.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I mean that's if you ask me, like what what
what are you doing with that?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Other?
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Well, how less those three bed rooms are boss, right,
which that would make me feel like it's a swinger
crib too. So either way, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't know. Man, Like wait, so.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Like, way too many bathrooms is equates to a swinger crib.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, I mean a few a few bit rooms, but
the rest of the house is just you only have
bat Like what are those rooms?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And are there rooms consistent?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Are there upside down pineapples in those rooms?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Are there upside pineapple flags on the outside of the house?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Or pillowcases whatever?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
He told me add Irondack chairs. Those chairs they kind
of fold up and you put in your front porch.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
What Yeah. I was like, there's no way that's it.
He was like, no, the meat Wagon told me that. Now.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Granted the meat Wagon I think was messing with me
because he helped me put together two Adirondack chairs that
we put on our front porch. So I think he
was like trying to mess with me, but I'm not
entirely sure.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, what, you need two people to put those together?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
It was actually of those deals that were like just
came completely disassembled, and so there was a couple of
parts where it was faster to put both together with
two people.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
But it was there was a.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Lot of like there's a lot of things going on,
man to put those things together.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
By the way, ad Romdack chairs are expensive. I didn't
know they were that expensive.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
They can't be. I think we got so they weren't
that bad.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, but that's so apparently upside down pineapple at Arondack
chairs and twelve bathrooms and four bedrooms in the Russell
Wilson house allegedly. I'd also like to point out here
I'm sick and tired of the fact that that story
about him having an office made the rounds when Brady
Quinn told that story weeks in advance, weeks in advance
(26:40):
at Russell Wilson at his own office and parking spot,
and yet people got a hold of it later on
and we never got the credit we deserved here on
this show.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Well, it's David Mulghetto was this agent. It probably would
have been some sort of attack plan, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Great point, then a photo that came out later on
again great point.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And then then maybe would have became public.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Now, so I find myself, especially after now that we've
unveiled that, you know, he could have some atairanback chairs
and upside down pineapples in some of those bathrooms or
bedrooms there at the house. But do you guys find
yourself rooting for Russell Wilson have a bounce back year
because I feel like I've.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Never rooted for him to have a bad year.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, but the jokes were there, they wrote them.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
They've been there, like Corneus Man Alive.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Right, the Danger which all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, the suits that he was wearing to the games
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Like, I hope he bounces back really too.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And and I think that Sean Payton is that type
of guy that that can do it, like he can
you know, you saw what he did in the movie
when they you know, they made.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
The movie about him.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I mean he had them young boys believing that they
could do it. I think he can redo that with
with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, no doubt. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
That's what I feel. That's what I believe. Sean Payton
is the one. And after watching that movie, I really
believe that that's that's what's going to happen. Like they're
going to turn this around. Yep, They're going to win
it all now and then and then Russ can go
back to Danger Witches and and you know, kissing babies
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and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Because Sean Payton will probably be right there with them.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Are the Denver Broncos a playoff team.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
They can be Can I give you what I did?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
And this is this is a really really cool website.
So there is a website called I do this every year.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I think.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I think it's one of the coolest things to do
because it completely changes your mind and what you think
is going to happen. If you're a gambler a better
out there, do this activity at least once, if not
a few times to give yourself a little bit of
a sample size. But it's called Playoff Predictors dot com.
And what you do is you go through every week
of the NFL regular season and it then spits out,
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obviously the results. And it's pretty cool because it informs
you of like a bye if it's an international game,
all those sorts of things you know, Thursday, you know,
Sunday night, Monday night are everything. And I just I
literally was just going through this morning and it's crazy because,
for example, I like, I came up with a result
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and I've got like three teams that are twelve and
five at the top the AFC.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
If I have to, if I had to give you
my number one overall seed. Who would it be?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh man, uh, the Bills no h.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
In the AFC, who would be your number one seed?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
By the way, three teams are tied at twelve and five,
but this team wins via.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Tiebreaker Chargers no.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Jacksonville yes, wow.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And when you look at their schedule and you compare
it to the rest of the division. And I'll talking
about this with Pete Prisco yesterday, and he made a
very compelling case that Jacksonville is gonna be the number
one overall seed in the AFC. They at least get
to the Visional Round and then you only got to
win a couple of games, And so he's he's got
them playing the super Bowl for that reason. Now, my
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counter to that is the last three years since the
NFL has gone to seven teams on each conference side,
we always tend to say think that like, oh man,
like this division is gonna be really tough. You know,
there's no way this team's gonna make it through and
make it to.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
The super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
However, the last three years where we've had seven teams
on each side, only one time, one time has a
division that made it into the playoffs and not had multiple.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Teams two or more teams, and that was three years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So usually you've got like whatever division we think is strong,
whether it's the AFC East the AFC North, which in
this particular case, I mean, maybe I'm just biased to
the AFC North, but I've got three teams making it,
and I.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Think, ye, what's that. I can see three teams easily
out of that.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
The crazy thing is I've got three teams making it,
and I've got them all at ten wins or more.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But the high mark is Cincinnati at twelve and five.
So and that's a.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Little bit of a byproduct of their their schedule outside
of the division and who they play. But I would
encourage a lot of people to go out there, man,
like go I mean, and by the way, that's like
looking at the AFC East with the Bills at eleven
and six, the Jets at ten and seven, the Dolphins
at nine and eight, the Patriots eight and nine, like
that's all kind of right there in the mix.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So it's it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
When you do these sorts of activities because it completely
changes the way you actually think about how things are
going to work out. And my whole, my whole thing
was I always put a lot of onus on home
field advantage. So if I'm ever in doubt between a
matchup in a game, I'm looking saying, Okay, I'm giving
them the benefit of doubt.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
They're playing at home.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh I just did one says the Raiders are going
to be eleven and six.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
No, it didn't. Yeah, you actually do it yourself. You
don't do it auto.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let's say let's just stay at napkin. Yeah, I'm looking
at it. I got the proof right here. Sign it
over to you guys, seriously, don't want to see that.
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Speaker 8 (32:59):
Pot and rich give me a hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
The Old P on Twitter, Petros Papadegas. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports.
He's an analyst for Fox's college football coverage, and he's
a good buddy of ours.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Pe what's happening, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Hello, Yeah, the old P, the old coach Prime, Yeah
you believe?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Now he's keeping receipts. Pe.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Then I saw her face. Well he's got mine, and
I'm a believe.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So you think that they're going to the national championship.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
They're gonna win every game by fifty Wow? No, I mean, look,
they proved that they can compete. Now, TCU also proved
that they don't know how to tackle anymore, and all
the Gary Patterson blood has left that program. But out
of everything, everybody was saying, I mean, they went out there,
the kid couldn't miss Chanor Sanders was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I mean, good for him, God bless him. Now. I
thought they were gonna get beat like everybody else did.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
I saw the seven returning starters on TCU's defense and
all that. But the Nebraska game will be interesting. A
lot of people are saying, go heavy on Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
But you know, you know, there's there's someone on our show,
Petros who's.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Saying that, Oh yeah, oh yeah, is it Minnesota Fats
of Sports Betting, Jonas Knox.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
No, it's not. Jonas actually hasn't given us this pick
for this one. It's one LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
You know what, he could be right, you know, I'm not.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I'm unsure as well.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
You know, defense, it's the defense that has me concerned
about Colorado.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I feel like you can make that comment about you
were concerned about Penn State's defense, and I was at
two separate games, and I'm like, hey, bro, you shouldn't
be that concerned about their defense. I've seen much worse
this year.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
So, I mean, we're all supposed to be experts, and
we're all wrong. A lot of the time and college football,
especially in the month of September and sometimes that week
zero in August.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I mean, it was always a crapshoot.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
On who your team was, the identity of your team
for a lot of reasons, no preseason, the way you
handle the non conference and all that. But we used
to have camp for real at least where we would
do run drill and nine on seven a bunch of days,
(35:36):
two times a day, all those double days, sometimes triple
day practices, and we'd come out of the tunnel in
September thirsty for blood, and you might have a better
idea about who your team was.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Now, with the camp rules, the transfer portal, all of
the different things that go into the sport, it really
is kind of.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
A mystery game one.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
And yeah, Colorado's got sixty or seventy new players, but
most of the teams that I looked at on Saturday
had thirty or forty and a lot of really new starters.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
So I mean, no one knows what you're gonna get.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Things look one way on paper, and then the team
takes the field and it's like, damn, that's not what
we thought at all. For the better or for worse,
so I think it's gonna be a wild September.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Now, Travis Hunter going playing offense and defense.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That just reminded me of one thing in my life.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
Well, I'm not as accomplished as Brady as a football
player or LeVar, as you guys know, but I did
play me neither.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
No, well that's the Cup of Joe part. But you
did play.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
You look through that face mask for the Thousand Oaks High.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Sorry, it's really it was a crooked face mask too, by.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
The way, it's like a single bar.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah, the old Nick Lowry, right.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
No, I mean it reminded me of and I had
been through the Wars practice wise, i'd you know, been
the wedge and the wedge breaker and one of the
most violent plays in sports. It's now illegal and all that,
but I remember in ninety seven we were beating Stanford
pretty good, and it was my first year, and I
got the ball like.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Fifteen times or something and had.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
Like sixty yards or something at the end of the game,
and it was the most I'd carried the ball in
a college football game. Live bullets and all that double
digit covered cup carries, and I remember, you know, going
out with my girlfriend that night and blah blah blah,
and I woke up at like three in the morning
and my legs felt like they were, you know, in
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an iron maiden. Like I was screaming, like I thought
I was going to die. Now, of course, your body
gets used to this stuff all the way into professional sports.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
But if that kid, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
I feel like that kid is gonna wake up and
he's going to be his arms and legs are going
to be separated from his butt, So pets good for him.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
I think the only comp in my lifetime is probably
Chris Gamble out Ohio State, if you can remember him,
and I remember I remember watching him and thinking, you know,
he did that often. I don't know his average snaps
per game because he was a returner. He did play
on offense, and obviously he started on defense. I want
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to say maybe was a close to around one hundred
snaps per game. I think the best story I ever
heard was after they played Penn State, he slept for
like seventeen.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Hours, he was so tired.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
But yeah, I mean it's not nah.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Can you recall can you recall anyone else that that
even falls in this category.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
No. I mean, just as a guy, I was in awe.
Now they don't get hit the same way, but I
was always in awe of the wide receivers and just
how they.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Could run those routes, jog back and just.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
Keep going, keep going, keep going, you know, corner Dino
all that stuff, and just jog back and run it again,
and run it with vigor and have spring in your
legs and all that. I guess the guy that blew
me away and he didn't play both ways, he just
returned and just ran a thousand routes was Taevon Austin.
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I was just like, does this guy ever get tired?
And then one game they're playing Oklahoma at West Virginia
and they moved him to tailback because they didn't have
any tailbacks, and I was like, he's gonna die. He's
too small. And he had like three hundred and twenty yards.
So that was yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I mean, some of these guys, they can run forever.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
You predicted death, you thought they're like data horners. Had
to you, hey, Petros was thinking about putting table Austin
back there.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
You didn't go, oh, no, you can't do that.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
He's gonna die Joe went down to me on the
sideline and I was holding a shovel.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
But the biggest brave.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I think this is Santa Anita.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh wow, how much did Charles Woodson do do office?
Speaker 3 (40:19):
What's yeah?
Speaker 8 (40:19):
I mean you think about that, and he's out on
the perimeter. You know, it's like and and those are
more normally the guys that do it. Remember when Miles
Jack would come in and carry the ball like.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Row, He's the first guy brought up because I remember
the only reason they didn't run him more is because
they remember so so Jamabo he was there as well.
But yeah, remember he's the guy that got arrested on
Prom night for like a duy or something.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
But he was screaming in the cops. I don't recall that,
but I just couldn't break tackle.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Well.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
They had depth at running backs, so like Miles Jack
only kim it on like goal line short yardage, and
then they'd like jog them off the field. You're here,
Wait wait a second, this guy's your best running back.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
Would then at first a whole package of defensive guys
to block for him. Yeah, it's all kinds of different stuff.
As I mean, Oregon State used a linebacker named Jack
Coletto for years as a brilliant short yardage guy.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
And I mean they did.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
So many things with him throwing the ball and running
it and pitching it and all that.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
He was brilliant.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
So people have done that stuff, but it's the volume
of plays that really get you freaked out about the
Colorado kid. But congratulations to coach Prime. I showed up
at work and everybody at Fox had an Eiffel Tower Boner. Well,
you can't say that, what is that?
Speaker 5 (41:54):
What does that look like as people walk down the hallways?
Is hard?
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Is hard?
Speaker 8 (41:59):
You know, it's like a backpack on a plane, but
the other way. But you know, because Fox has they
obviously Nebraska and then let's say, you know, Levar's wrong
and I.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Have no clue.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I don't either, to be honest, I'm just it's a
Big ten team. They played a quality opponent in Minnesota.
I just you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
They should be better defensively.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
They should be better defensively, yes they should, but you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
But I just I think Nebraska might shock some people.
The hard part for.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Me in thinking back and looking back on the Nebraska
tape was at the end of the game, when Minnesota
needed to throw the football make plays, they just worked
the ball down the field. I was like, well, that
was there for the entire game. You just chose not
to do it. Like what's happening here?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
Well, you know how sometimes a two minute drail reveals
something that was not revealed, and that's true too, But like,
can they keep pace?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
Can Nebraska's offense keep pace?
Speaker 5 (43:04):
That That's why I don't. I don't think they can.
Speaker 8 (43:06):
I mean that guy can't miss. I mean once I
saw the quarterback and I said, oh God, he can't miss. Yeah,
I mean I remember the last time I saw a
guy like that was like I remembered like and saying
that guy can't miss was like Joey Harrington and I
was rooting for Shador a lot more than Joey. But uh,
after after Colorado plays, uh Nebraska, I think they have
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the Rocky Mountain showdown, but then Fox has the Oregon game,
and then Fox has Colorado USC.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Yeah, so ready to ride the buffalo if they can,
you know, I mean, they'll.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Be three and oh I don't know about you know
what what happens after that.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Because LaVar makes a good point about the front and
how they match up offensively defensively versus some of these teams.
Oregon and I don't know that USCE necessarily, but they're improved.
But Oregon will definitely be that first test of that.
Speaker 8 (43:58):
Yeah, their balloon will at some point. But it was
a lot of fun on Saturday eight.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Petros, I mean, congratulations to your PAC twelve. Just in time,
just how about that? Just in time to break apart
the entire.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Conference was still my question, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
That's horrible, but we was both jumping at it, so
you got it.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Go ahead, Petros.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
It's a great question that I was going to ask you,
but Jonas, totally.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Uh dynamic question.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Are we surprise?
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Amazing question? It's amazing. I mean what is that? What?
But what is that? Like?
Speaker 4 (44:33):
What does that do for the whole you know, departures
taking place? I mean can't I mean, I said, everybody's
going to change their minds to say let's just run
it back and let's all stay in the PAC twelve
after this season.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
You know, on paper, you looked at it and you
knew they were going to be strong, and if any
of those teams had lost any of those.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Games, you know, I think people would be up in arms.
Speaker 8 (44:56):
I mean, Washington State, you know, they they're not us
to lose their their opener. Who did they play? I
forget but o Colorado State is way down, so Wazoo's
supposed to win. I mean, see, if they had lost,
we'd be we wouldn't forget about coach Prime. We'd be
talking about that. I guess UCLA beat an experienced quarterback
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and Grayson McCall. Arizona State beat Southern Utah in a haboob,
which is a dust storm, relaxed guy. Arizona played Northern
What is it called a boob?
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It's a I believe probably an indigenous word, a haboob,
or it just looks like a giant breast.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of remember remember how we talked
about the a FFC West being top heavy.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
It's kind of like that.
Speaker 8 (45:44):
Yeah, Cal went, Cal went to North Texas and won,
and they have a very special back in Jaden Ought.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
He's so good.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Stanford beat Hawaii.
Speaker 8 (45:55):
I mean, okay, I mean Washington beat Boise State, but
Washington's excellent. Washington mean micro Pennix and no Dudent's a
and I like Boise and I liked their coach. But
you know, they got beat. We expected that at the Lake.
I mean, I just don't. I mean the Pactoe's thirteen
to no, but I just don't. I mean, and it's
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great and there's a lot of great teams. Oregon won
by eighty over Portland State. We obviously saw the Colorado game.
Utah beat Florida. Okay, so those two are the big ones, right,
Colorado beating TCU and Utah beating Florida and that's what
makes them undefeated. But that's the first time Florida cross
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the Mississippi since like the eighties literally to play a
non conference I just you know, it's a cool story,
and it's sad. It's sad no matter what. It's sad
if the Pac twelve Waszhing thirteen, you know, because our
conference has gone and our travel partners and our history
of playing each other. But as far as you know,
the actual you look into every week in every game,
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and it's really just the TCU and the Florida games
that jump out.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
Petros, do you think the Big ten and Big twelve
are walking around with Eiffel Tower boners sing, I.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Mean it's happening next year, right right in five point forty.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
That guy just starts chirping at you, huh Eiffel Towers.
I would say that, uh that the Big twelve's got
a bit of a got a bit of a bone diggity.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
Yeah, we're about the old Big ten.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
This is not big in their name, you know they do.
Speaker 8 (47:36):
But I wouldn't be too boned up after I wouldn't
be too boned up after Jeff Tedford, the blue chew
of the of the San Joaquin Valley Cat.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Hey, what do you think, Mike right now?
Speaker 6 (47:50):
What?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
What's what's the bon aito doing right now? Rylers?
Speaker 6 (47:54):
My guy? I don't know, poor guy humiliated.
Speaker 8 (48:01):
I wonder if he's still in LA, like the old
guy at the club and like a shiny shirt and
like the Beyonce show.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
Yeah, trying to talk to Kerry Washington.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Probably the country club at like two pm, talk about
orange drinking V and t's.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Sam, Well, that guy really chirps in everybody's ear.
Speaker 9 (48:19):
Oh yeah, well, if you want to chirp at Petros
at the old pe on Twitter, that is at the
old pe on Twitter Petros Papada gas pee.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
News I really wants to get I don't even want
to do the BQ news. Keep going, don't forget guys.
Speaker 8 (48:41):
We got Arizona State hosting Oklahoma State. Yeah, on Saturday
night on FS one. All right, guy versus Dillingham. What
a couple of weirdos.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah. So Petro's always a good time and a Wednesday
tradition here to break at the far Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Hey bet you, by the way, really good, God, it's
really good.
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with LaVar Arings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel here boys on a Wednesday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
A little humpy LeVar. Yeah, for me, these.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Short weeks are a little odd. It's already Wednesday. We
got a game coming up tomorrow. Just feels like it
just jumps out and gets you. You know, we got
petros An hour three and it's all downhill from there. Yeah,
everybody fired up here for a for a Wednesday edition
of the program.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Here and the everyone's.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Fired up and it's listen. It's good to have the
star of the Joe Rogan podcast, Brady Quinn on the
show as well too.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's really what you want to lead off the show.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
No, I just wanted to figure bring that up. We
would catch the show.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I wasn't off. He's fabricating things.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Tell us more, stretching a little bit here.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, tell us more about Joe. Just tell us more so.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Shane Gillis, who was the comedian who had.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
He's on Netflix. I looked him up after he consult
me too.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, he was on Joe Rogan's podcast and he retold
the near fight story with the snow blowing out UFC
fighter whoever it was.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
In parts, there's some parts that were we kind of
could tell the story for entertainment purposes only what was
I think after this older bouncer like popped them in
the face and they like busted up his nose and
we're kind of now question it was just more of
the cocaine or if it was actually a UFC fighter.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, here's the thing. You could be a UFC fighter,
you just might not be one of the good ones.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's a good point.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Like someone's category, someone's gonna be the guy to get
to the title.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, that's that's I mean, just everybody's got to have
like that open end fight that they you know, it's like, yeah,
let's take this fight and it's a good matchup.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Everybody has that one guy that they take, you know.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
So yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
It was nice to see the appearance there midst football season,
we got a big new and kickoff.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Gillis is a PA due too by the way, he
is a homework on it.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
He played football, He played ball, played ball army than eli.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, yeah, so do the army thing.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
That's the corest thing about being around him is it
reminds you of like hanging around because he was a
former offensive lineman and they just have a different, different perspective.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Yeah, and they're just the smartest. They're the smartest dude. Actually,
they say by position that they have the highest IQs.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
We like think the quarterbacks are.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I'm just telling you what what the studies used to
say back when, you know, back way then that you
know the line went back white higher, Yeah, like way
back then.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
So I don't know. I think there's a lot of
dumb quarterbacks out there.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Man.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
I think there's some really really smart ones. But sometimes
I think it's kind of overstated how smart some of
these qbs are.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
If you think about it, though, Like the position that
offensive linemen are in, I mean it kind of is
a smart position to be in. I mean you're not
really taking the hit, right, like you're preventing other people
from getting hits, and you're physically up there in a
lone of scrimmage. But you got four other dudes with you,
maybe more right, you might have like five maybe six,
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like helping you kind of block and do stuff. So
you got helm there's like five of you, so sometimes
no one really knows whose fault it is of someone
messaud like and then also like you can't get blamed
for a drop, can't get blamed for a fumble, you know,
like you're kind of in a position where, yeah, if
like you completely get beat by a guy, people are
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going to blame you. But sometimes it's hard to see
even that or even know whose fault it really was.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
So I don't know, maybe it is a smarter position
to be in Laban story.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
It's also more difficult to vote guys into the Hall
of Fame because nobody knows what the hell good offensive
lineman is.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah it's Joe Thomas, though it is true.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Yeah, when you're dominant, you're dominant, though you know it
is what it is. But so Kareem McKenzie. You guys
know that name. He played for the New York Giants,
you know, Super Bowl Chap. I think he was on
both teams too bad. By the way, anyway, he went
to Penn State and one time, this one time we
went to this wing spot, Cluck you Chicken.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You guys remember Clok you Chicken? I don't, but it
sounds good.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It was really good, right, So they had really good wings,
and we went and got some wings and I got
the wings I got. I got one wing that they
they use that you have to eat to get on
the wall. And it's like one of those those wings
that's like really really yet it's like super hot, like
don't don't touch it with your fingers, like you all
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that type stuff. And I mixed it in a thing
of wings. I mixed one of them man with with
a thing of wings, and I gave him the Kareem
McKenzie and I was like, man, I'm I'm I'm fool,
I'm done, like and Remo was like, yeah, I take them,
no problem, man.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
He took them, left the room, no problem. This and
that we are we locked the door.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
We're laughing, let me laughing our asses off, you know,
like crying, laughing so hard because we're thinking that you know,
it's gonna it's gonna hit him, you know what I mean,
like you geez, like the movies. And so like three
minutes later you hear the door opens, then he comes
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running down hall.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Stars.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I didn't know what to do because I was laughing,
but I was scared that I was so scared he
was gonna try to kill me. Mad like he hate
lit into that wing. He wasn't a bit eating them
so fast. He ain't realized that it was one of
the hot ones. And why would you you gotta trust
your teeth, make mad I should the wings right, they
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were bone in.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, he may have rubbed his eyes afterwards.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Oh my god, if you could hear, I wish I
could reenact, like really like what you could hear, like
the anger and the pain in his voice all at
the same time. But yeah, he ended up beating my legs.
I had some really badly. And yes, I'm I'm a
brown man, but these bruises yet you you could, you
(06:49):
could see them. He punched my legs about maybe eight
nine times that I might have lost count there, but yeah,
it was It's pretty fun moment. Man. Well, Wellnemen are
different dudes, man, They're wired different. And I had to
take the ass whipping because they're not going to stop.
Hope he wasn't going to stop. He was going to
get me.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Hopefully he didn't hyper extend your knee or anything like that.
Much like it's a problem for the Kansas City Chief.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I mean Chris, Chris, where is Chris Jones?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Man?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Was he with a voodoo doctor or something like that.
Man is he in New Orleans like right now, laughing
somewhere with a hurricane?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Like what the hell?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But Travis Kelce, the all Pro, All World Future Hall
of Fame tight end of the Kansas City Chiefs, hyper
extended his right knee and practice on Tuesday and tests
were done. Kansas City believes the ACL is intact. He's
going to continue to be tested, but you know, there's
major questions as to whether or not he's going to
be available coming up tomorrow. I know doctor David Chow
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says it's doubtful on Twitter that that he would be
ready to go. But the good news is obviously not
out for the year because the ACL is intact. But
doesn't it lead to this is another reason why it's
really hard to repeat his champion in the NFL, because
there's just stuff like this that pops up. There's an
element of breaks or luck or good fortune that Super
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Bowl champion teams end up having. And the Chiefs feel
like they found themselves starting off on the wrong spot.
And the gambling line would tell you as much. Courtesy
of our friends at DraftKings, they were a seven point
favorite in some spots six and a half points yesterday
and now on DraftKings that is down to four and
a half. So there's some real concern about whether or
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not Kansas City is going to look like Kansas City
with no Kelsey.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's surprising when you see a tight end move the
line two points. You know, most of the books, I saw
about six and a half. That's where it settled and
opened at seven. All the way down to four and
a half. I mean, that's that's like quarterback movement if
you're getting a starter out usually, But this just goes
to show you the significance of Travis Kelcey's you know,
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chemistry with Patrick Mahomes. You know, even without Tyreek Hill
last year, you know, those two didn't miss a beat.
And then maybe it's it tells you a little bit more.
And I'll just ask you two guys, look at the roster.
Eliminate Travis Kelsey and then tell me if as a
defense like who scares you? And mind you? Kadarius Tony
(09:21):
was limited practice with knee injury. One of the player
was as well. But if Travis Kelcey isn't there now,
they obviously don't have Tyreek Hill. After winning Super Bowl
without him last year. But who else scares you on
this offense where you really feel like you need to
game plan for scant.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, not gang plan.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I mean that's a tabet extreme, don't I don't for
any of the guys. I mean I like Scantling, you know,
I like Markus Scanting. I mean I'm not am I
gang planning them?
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Like you know what I'm saying, Like third down, red zone,
you're not bracketing, you're not double coveraging. You're not like
playing like a red one where you're move the safety
over to wherever Kelsey's at to try to give a
little extra help and take him away, or like those
doubles coverages that you'll see like you're not gonna see
that as much.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
No, and and and furthermore to that point, Q, you
can probably kind of bold and boke up and say
we're going man. And if you're able to successfully play man,
it makes it. It makes it a lot. You have
more options on defense if you can lock more guys
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down than not in man coverage, you can, you can
run different types of blitzes, you can you can move
around a little bit more, and you can make it
really really difficult on those offensive linemen because you can
start to kind of overload you know, different parts of
the line at different different times, and and that's you know,
it's going to be up to obviously, and he's great
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at it, prereads Patrick Mahomes. But it's still become very
stressful if you don't have that one guy that you know,
you got a bracket coverage or we just cannot sit
in a man coverage with this guy. We gotta do
something and we gotta be paying attention to where he
is at all times. It takes a lot of stress
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off of a defense when you don't have that guy
on the field.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I mean, and then you're going to get the Lions
in there and Dan Campbell and the fighting Dan Campbell's
are going to bring in the mouth. Oh yeah, they're
looking to do some damage, especially in that game.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I just make a statement certain, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think that. And we talked about this last year
when it happened, you know, losing Tyreek Hill. Obviously it's
a big loss, but Travis Kelsey's really the number one
and that was the one to where well, you can't
afford to lose Travis Kelsey. And now I mean, look,
I don't know anything about hyper extended knees. This, you know,
two days before a game.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But we could probably do it to you in the
studio right now. Be very painful.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I feel like that.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, i'd be painful, but I mean you'd be fine eventually.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But here's the difference.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
It's like stubbing, stubbing your finger, Like have you ever
stubbed your finger?
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:09):
No, I hyper extended my knee. I just I don't
know what it's like.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
What is it like?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Well, I don't. I don't know what it's like to
miss workers shows after doing it, but you know what
going to do?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I would still show up.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
But you know what it feels like. Yeah, yeah, but
he wouldn't miss work like radio. He would not miss
no god no.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
When you hyper extended your knee, did you have crutches
or did you just still walk around?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Still walk around? Come on, man, you know I'm bilging please?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Oh okay.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, And there's not a lot of need to hyper
extend if we're going to be honest here, all right,
When you're walking around on pool noodles and you hyper
extend your knee, it's a lot different than when Travis
Kelsey does it, so yeah, it just it's all good.
But if you're a Detroit he.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Is six five two fifty, that that is a weight
bearing limb. You know, that's you know, that's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Does he miss more than one game?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I mean, you can, you can recover pretty quickly from
from a hyper extension depending on like kind of like
the level of severity of it, and you can come back.
But it's still about kind of the comfort level, your
your pain tolerance level, the mobility. They're going to have
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to really do a good job of trying to probably
get like the blood and the swelling out of like the.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
In and around the need.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
There's probably going to be some fluid that's going to
be a build up in his quad and then his knee,
and what they're going to have to work to do
is really really keep that fluid from building up into
his quad, and they're going to have to make sure
his quad and his calf muscle is still firing. They're
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going to have to really really really do a lot
of like kind of rehabbing on the quad and the calf,
and then that's it's just going to be up to
what Kelsey. You know what his tolerance level was. Rington, Well,
I've done it. I've done it a few times and
and so I just you over the years, you start
to listen to the things that they say and you're
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able to kind of regurgitate it. So I'm not saying
it because I know it. I'm just saying it because
I heard it doctor Erring. Yeah, they put that stem
on all the little quad muscles. They'll put it on
the calf muscle. Yeah, they'll ice it there. Yeah, they'll
stretch it. But he's going to have to keep his
quad and it is his calf muscle very strong, and yeah,
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they're going to have to keep it like stretched out.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Do you do if you don't have a calf muscle
like some guys got small calves?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah or cal Yeah, I don't know. I have no
calves none. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
I'm a part of that. Everybody makes jokes with me
when I do my posts on social media, like you
skip leg day, Like, my legs don't grow.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Guy, man, people say that's you all the time.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Don't skip lag day like, and I don't have the man.
They I do not have the you skip leg day
legs that they have on the commercial with the dude
that's super big and then they show his legs and
he's got like like little little little little legs. Like
my legs aren't that little. They're little though they are little,
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not that speak these you do have little legs.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Thanks man, appreciate it man.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And some cultures that's considered to be very very sexy.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know cultures.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I mean I could tell you, but you know, I
was very racially driven yesterday and aduring our show away
from it today.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
A couple of countries, you piss off.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
I don't want to go two days in a row
and making people upset.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, it's a probably smart move.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
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Speaker 2 (16:12):
So we had some advice that apparently was handed out
to a potential future Hall of Famer in the NFL.
That advice from none other than Sean Payton, who's a
fan favorite amongst the New York Jets Brass. Everybody thrilled
with Sean Payton and Sean Payton's comments earlier this offseason.
But apparently Sean Payton, when he took over the job
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with the Denver Broncos, told Russell Wilson that he needs
to focus less on Russell inc And said quote this,
according to Seth Wickersham, who wrote a big piece about
Russell Wilson and Sean Payton and taking over in Denver, quote,
will you effing stop kissing all the babies. You're not
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running for public office. So that's a fun way to
start off game week as the Denver Broncos find themselves
four point favorites at home against the Las Vegas Raiders,
which are going to be in the news later on
as we'll get to very interesting things.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Ye ask this.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Question, Yeah, why do you think all this stuff is
becoming public?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Like Sean Payton obviously is letting this stuff get out there.
He worked in the media for a year.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
He clearly understands the media how it works, and when
he says things how things are going to hit people.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I'm just curious. Do you think he wants all this
to be mountain known? I do. I think he wants
it to be some of the things that are getting like.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
I guess things like, why would you want or need
all this to be known?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Yeah, I think it's a great I think that's a
great question. And I don't know what the why of
it is, but I could take a stab at this
one in particular. I mean, he he had time to
monitor and see the situation in Denver for what it
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was as a former coach, but also.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
As an active media member.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
And I think in a way, when you do things
like this, you're actually freeing Russell Wilson from a lot
of the negative energy that's probably been coming his way.
For some strange reason, Russell Wilson has become so easy
to target and malign. And it's not in my estimation
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from everything I know. I don't know Russell Wilson, but
from everyone that I've ever known, who has ever been
around him and who knows him personally, thinks he is
just an awesome dude. Like I've never heard anyone that
I know that knows him say anything bad about him.
And so I think, I think, if you know how
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Sean Payton is, I got a chance to get to
know Sean Payton. Sean Payton is one of those no
nonsense like I'll say it to your face not behind
your back type of guy.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And I think he's just.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Kind of putting it out there to the public that
he doesn't have to kiss babies and and act like
he's running for office. He doesn't have to have this
like kind of you know, maybe a manufactured persona of
what he thinks the public and or what he wants
the public to think about him get back to playing ball.
(19:38):
And I think by putting that out there in a way,
it becomes a uniting, a uniting type of thing. I
don't don't I don't really take this as derogatory, you know.
I don't take this as negative or he's attacking russ.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
I think he's just setting a tone and it's like.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Look, you you are or the man, like you're going
to be the reason why we win this year. So
stop worrying about like stuff that's immateial right now. Don't
worry about kissing babies. You're not running for office. Like,
let's go win games, like let's play ball. I just
kind of feel like that, if you put it in context,
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I think he's trying to take some of the negative,
negative coverage or the negative feelings about him, and he's
he's basically like in my estimation, he's almost putting it
on himself.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It's like, let me do it, let me take that.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I think he's concerned Russ has got confidence issues because
of how bad last year went, and he's like he's
trying to toughen him up publicly. O Hey man, I'm
calling you out. What are you gonna do? You're being
sarcast No, I swear to God, Like what are you
gonna do about it? Like stop kissing babies? Play better?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
What are you gonna do? Hold on? You think he's
trying to play like like bully or like thread to again.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
No, just letting him know, like, hey man, like you're
better than this. Don't let last year you know, just
steer you in another direction in your career, like do
something about it?
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Can I can? I be honest to what I think
he's trying to do. What do you think? Well?
Speaker 5 (21:07):
First of all, I think he's trying to turn around
his career based on how things looked last year, because
I think he's looking at last year and saying, well,
this is the floor, this is what things can look
like moving forward, and is this how you want to
be remembered? And do you want to start building all
this other stuff for after your career, and that after
your career might come sooner than you think, Or do
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you want to get back to focusing on football, being
all about ball and let someone else build that stuff
if you could be a part of it in the
off season, or have someone who keeps see the loop,
but focus on football.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Because that's that's why you can have a brand.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's why you can have you know, other things outside
of football, whether it's a clothing brand, whether it's you know,
different retail shops, investments, and all these other things going
on that was all made possible through football. And not
many athletes lose sight of this, but some do. They
get kind of caught up in it where they get
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caught up thinking you're a businessman, and it's like, no,
you are the business man, and your business is football
and the rest of everything that comes to you out
around you is because of football. And so you have
to try to play as long as you can, as
successfully as you can, and once it ends, then you
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can transition into a businessman.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
But too many.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Guys sometimes get caught up and like thinking, hey man,
I can do it all. No, you can go look
at some of the most successful people. They have been
incredible in one area of their life, superhuman all right,
in other areas a lot of times lacking. They're they're
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either deficient in their personal relationships or they're romantic relationships
with their spouse and girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever, or they're really
good at this, but they have no ability to do that,
and so that happens all the time, and that's okay,
there's nothing wrong with that. Like there's no one who's
really just great at being able to do everything. Maybe
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really good, not great, and now elite, not world class.
And Russell at one point his time, was playing at
a world class level in his career. And I think
Sean Payton, who's done it before, winning a Super Bowl,
who's been with a quarterback who's a first ballot Hall
of Famer in Drew Brees, is trying to say to him,
Hey man.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I can get you back to that.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
I can get you another super Bowl if you just
focus on football.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
That's why I think the message is I'm with you.
And let's add this to the equation too. Again just
just building off of the perception and the observations. It
became public domain that he had an office. It became
public domain that he had a fifty thousand square foot
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house with two bathrooms and two bedrooms, right and.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
By the way, which just doesn't make any sense. We
go back over that. We never got way too It
wasn't it wasn't it wasn't way too much squirref I
don't care if it's fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It was like twenty. I think it's too much square
footage for only two bathrooms.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well, I think you guys should be accurate about it.
It's he had four bedrooms and there was like twelve bathrooms.
It was the other way around.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
It was more bathrooms than it was bedrooms. Yeah, that
makes sense. I mean, especially Jonas, you has all sorts
of dairy issues.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, but a bowl of ice cream you need multiple Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
I don't need twelve reminders that I got to change
my socks if I have a bull of cereal, Okay,
all I need is two? Yeah, I mean there is that.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
I mean that's if you ask me, like what what
what are you doing with that?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Other?
Speaker 6 (24:58):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Well, how less those three bed rooms are boss, right,
which that would make me feel like it's a swinger
crib too. So either way, you know what I mean, Like,
I don't know. Man, Like wait, so.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Like, way too many bathrooms is equates to a swinger crib.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Yeah, I mean a few a few bit rooms, but
the rest of the house is just you only have
bat Like what are those rooms?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
And are there rooms consistent?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Are there upside down pineapples in those rooms?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Are there upside pineapple flags on the outside of the house?
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Or pillowcases whatever?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
He told me add Irondack chairs. Those chairs they kind
of fold up and you put in your front porch.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
What Yeah. I was like, there's no way that's it.
He was like, no, the meat Wagon told me that. Now.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Granted the meat Wagon I think was messing with me
because he helped me put together two Adirondack chairs that
we put on our front porch. So I think he
was like trying to mess with me, but I'm not
entirely sure.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I mean, what, you need two people to put those together?
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
It was actually of those deals that were like just
came completely disassembled, and so there was a couple of
parts where it was faster to put both together with
two people.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
But it was there was a.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
Lot of like there's a lot of things going on,
man to put those things together.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
By the way, ad Romdack chairs are expensive. I didn't
know they were that expensive.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
They can't be. I think we got so they weren't
that bad.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah, but that's so apparently upside down pineapple at Arondack
chairs and twelve bathrooms and four bedrooms in the Russell
Wilson house allegedly. I'd also like to point out here
I'm sick and tired of the fact that that story
about him having an office made the rounds when Brady
Quinn told that story weeks in advance, weeks in advance
(26:40):
at Russell Wilson at his own office and parking spot,
and yet people got a hold of it later on
and we never got the credit we deserved here on
this show.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Well, it's David Mulghetto was this agent. It probably would
have been some sort of attack plan, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Great point, then a photo that came out later on
again great point.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And then then maybe would have became public.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Now, so I find myself, especially after now that we've
unveiled that, you know, he could have some atairanback chairs
and upside down pineapples in some of those bathrooms or
bedrooms there at the house. But do you guys find
yourself rooting for Russell Wilson have a bounce back year
because I feel like I've.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Never rooted for him to have a bad year.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Well, but the jokes were there, they wrote them.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
They've been there, like Corneus Man Alive.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Right, the Danger which all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Yeah, the suits that he was wearing to the games
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Like, I hope he bounces back really too.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And and I think that Sean Payton is that type
of guy that that can do it, like he can
you know, you saw what he did in the movie
when they you know, they made.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
The movie about him.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
I mean he had them young boys believing that they
could do it. I think he can redo that with
with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, no doubt. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
That's what I feel. That's what I believe. Sean Payton
is the one. And after watching that movie, I really
believe that that's that's what's going to happen. Like they're
going to turn this around. Yep, They're going to win
it all now and then and then Russ can go
back to Danger Witches and and you know, kissing babies
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and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Because Sean Payton will probably be right there with them.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Are the Denver Broncos a playoff team.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
They can be Can I give you what I did?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
And this is this is a really really cool website.
So there is a website called I do this every year.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I think.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I think it's one of the coolest things to do
because it completely changes your mind and what you think
is going to happen. If you're a gambler a better
out there, do this activity at least once, if not
a few times to give yourself a little bit of
a sample size. But it's called Playoff Predictors dot com.
And what you do is you go through every week
of the NFL regular season and it then spits out,
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obviously the results. And it's pretty cool because it informs
you of like a bye if it's an international game,
all those sorts of things you know, Thursday, you know,
Sunday night, Monday night are everything. And I just I
literally was just going through this morning and it's crazy because,
for example, I like, I came up with a result
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and I've got like three teams that are twelve and
five at the top the AFC.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
If I have to, if I had to give you
my number one overall seed. Who would it be?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Oh man, uh, the Bills no h.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
In the AFC, who would be your number one seed?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
By the way, three teams are tied at twelve and five,
but this team wins via.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Tiebreaker Chargers no.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Jacksonville yes, wow.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And when you look at their schedule and you compare
it to the rest of the division. And I'll talking
about this with Pete Prisco yesterday, and he made a
very compelling case that Jacksonville is gonna be the number
one overall seed in the AFC. They at least get
to the Visional Round and then you only got to
win a couple of games, And so he's he's got
them playing the super Bowl for that reason. Now, my
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counter to that is the last three years since the
NFL has gone to seven teams on each conference side,
we always tend to say think that like, oh man,
like this division is gonna be really tough. You know,
there's no way this team's gonna make it through and
make it to.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
The super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
However, the last three years where we've had seven teams
on each side, only one time, one time has a
division that made it into the playoffs and not had multiple.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Teams two or more teams, and that was three years ago.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
So usually you've got like whatever division we think is strong,
whether it's the AFC East the AFC North, which in
this particular case, I mean, maybe I'm just biased to
the AFC North, but I've got three teams making it,
and I.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
Think, ye, what's that. I can see three teams easily
out of that.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Well.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
The crazy thing is I've got three teams making it,
and I've got them all at ten wins or more.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But the high mark is Cincinnati at twelve and five.
So and that's a.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
Little bit of a byproduct of their their schedule outside
of the division and who they play. But I would
encourage a lot of people to go out there, man,
like go I mean, and by the way, that's like
looking at the AFC East with the Bills at eleven
and six, the Jets at ten and seven, the Dolphins
at nine and eight, the Patriots eight and nine, like
that's all kind of right there in the mix.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
So it's it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
When you do these sorts of activities because it completely
changes the way you actually think about how things are
going to work out. And my whole, my whole thing
was I always put a lot of onus on home
field advantage. So if I'm ever in doubt between a
matchup in a game, I'm looking saying, Okay, I'm giving
them the benefit of doubt.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
They're playing at home.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Oh I just did one says the Raiders are going
to be eleven and six.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
No, it didn't. Yeah, you actually do it yourself. You
don't do it auto.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Let's say let's just stay at napkin. Yeah, I'm looking
at it. I got the proof right here. Sign it
over to you guys, seriously, don't want to see that.
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Speaker 8 (32:59):
Pot and rich give me a hell yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
The Old P on Twitter, Petros Papadegas. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports.
He's an analyst for Fox's college football coverage, and he's
a good buddy of ours.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Pe what's happening, Good morning everybody.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Hello, Yeah, the old P, the old coach Prime, Yeah
you believe?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I believe.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Now he's keeping receipts. Pe.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Then I saw her face. Well he's got mine, and
I'm a believe.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So you think that they're going to the national championship.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
They're gonna win every game by fifty Wow? No, I mean, look,
they proved that they can compete. Now, TCU also proved
that they don't know how to tackle anymore, and all
the Gary Patterson blood has left that program. But out
of everything, everybody was saying, I mean, they went out there,
the kid couldn't miss Chanor Sanders was absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I mean, good for him, God bless him. Now. I
thought they were gonna get beat like everybody else did.
Speaker 8 (34:06):
I saw the seven returning starters on TCU's defense and
all that. But the Nebraska game will be interesting. A
lot of people are saying, go heavy on Nebraska.
Speaker 5 (34:16):
But you know, you know, there's there's someone on our show,
Petros who's.
Speaker 8 (34:19):
Saying that, Oh yeah, oh yeah, is it Minnesota Fats
of Sports Betting, Jonas Knox.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
No, it's not. Jonas actually hasn't given us this pick
for this one. It's one LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 6 (34:34):
You know what, he could be right, you know, I'm not.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
I'm unsure as well.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
You know, defense, it's the defense that has me concerned
about Colorado.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
I feel like you can make that comment about you
were concerned about Penn State's defense, and I was at
two separate games, and I'm like, hey, bro, you shouldn't
be that concerned about their defense. I've seen much worse
this year.
Speaker 8 (34:59):
So, I mean, we're all supposed to be experts, and
we're all wrong. A lot of the time and college football,
especially in the month of September and sometimes that week
zero in August.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I mean, it was always a crapshoot.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
On who your team was, the identity of your team
for a lot of reasons, no preseason, the way you
handle the non conference and all that. But we used
to have camp for real at least where we would
do run drill and nine on seven a bunch of days,
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two times a day, all those double days, sometimes triple
day practices, and we'd come out of the tunnel in
September thirsty for blood, and you might have a better
idea about who your team was.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 8 (35:50):
Now, with the camp rules, the transfer portal, all of
the different things that go into the sport, it really
is kind of.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
A mystery game one.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
And yeah, Colorado's got sixty or seventy new players, but
most of the teams that I looked at on Saturday
had thirty or forty and a lot of really new starters.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
So I mean, no one knows what you're gonna get.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
Things look one way on paper, and then the team
takes the field and it's like, damn, that's not what
we thought at all. For the better or for worse,
so I think it's gonna be a wild September.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
It be a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Now, Travis Hunter going playing offense and defense.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
That just reminded me of one thing in my life.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
Well, I'm not as accomplished as Brady as a football
player or LeVar, as you guys know, but I did
play me neither.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
No, well that's the Cup of Joe part. But you
did play.
Speaker 8 (36:48):
You look through that face mask for the Thousand Oaks High.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Sorry, it's really it was a crooked face mask too, by.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
The way, it's like a single bar.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
Yeah, the old Nick Lowry, right.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
No, I mean it reminded me of and I had
been through the Wars practice wise, i'd you know, been
the wedge and the wedge breaker and one of the
most violent plays in sports. It's now illegal and all that,
but I remember in ninety seven we were beating Stanford
pretty good, and it was my first year, and I
got the ball like.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
Fifteen times or something and had.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
Like sixty yards or something at the end of the game,
and it was the most I'd carried the ball in
a college football game. Live bullets and all that double
digit covered cup carries, and I remember, you know, going
out with my girlfriend that night and blah blah blah,
and I woke up at like three in the morning
and my legs felt like they were, you know, in
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an iron maiden. Like I was screaming, like I thought
I was going to die. Now, of course, your body
gets used to this stuff all the way into professional sports.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
But if that kid, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
I feel like that kid is gonna wake up and
he's going to be his arms and legs are going
to be separated from his butt, So pets good for him.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
I think the only comp in my lifetime is probably
Chris Gamble out Ohio State, if you can remember him,
and I remember I remember watching him and thinking, you know,
he did that often. I don't know his average snaps
per game because he was a returner. He did play
on offense, and obviously he started on defense. I want
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to say maybe was a close to around one hundred
snaps per game. I think the best story I ever
heard was after they played Penn State, he slept for
like seventeen.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Hours, he was so tired.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
But yeah, I mean it's not nah.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
Can you recall can you recall anyone else that that
even falls in this category.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
No. I mean, just as a guy, I was in awe.
Now they don't get hit the same way, but I
was always in awe of the wide receivers and just
how they.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Could run those routes, jog back and just.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
Keep going, keep going, keep going, you know, corner Dino
all that stuff, and just jog back and run it again,
and run it with vigor and have spring in your
legs and all that. I guess the guy that blew
me away and he didn't play both ways, he just
returned and just ran a thousand routes was Taevon Austin.
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I was just like, does this guy ever get tired?
And then one game they're playing Oklahoma at West Virginia
and they moved him to tailback because they didn't have
any tailbacks, and I was like, he's gonna die. He's
too small. And he had like three hundred and twenty yards.
So that was yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I mean, some of these guys, they can run forever.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
You predicted death, you thought they're like data horners. Had
to you, hey, Petros was thinking about putting table Austin
back there.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
You didn't go, oh, no, you can't do that.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
He's gonna die Joe went down to me on the
sideline and I was holding a shovel.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
But the biggest brave.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
I think this is Santa Anita.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Oh wow, how much did Charles Woodson do do office?
Speaker 3 (40:19):
What's yeah?
Speaker 8 (40:19):
I mean you think about that, and he's out on
the perimeter. You know, it's like and and those are
more normally the guys that do it. Remember when Miles
Jack would come in and carry the ball like.
Speaker 5 (40:29):
Row, He's the first guy brought up because I remember
the only reason they didn't run him more is because
they remember so so Jamabo he was there as well.
But yeah, remember he's the guy that got arrested on
Prom night for like a duy or something.
Speaker 8 (40:45):
But he was screaming in the cops. I don't recall that,
but I just couldn't break tackle.
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Well.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
They had depth at running backs, so like Miles Jack
only kim it on like goal line short yardage, and
then they'd like jog them off the field. You're here,
Wait wait a second, this guy's your best running back.
Speaker 8 (41:06):
Would then at first a whole package of defensive guys
to block for him. Yeah, it's all kinds of different stuff.
As I mean, Oregon State used a linebacker named Jack
Coletto for years as a brilliant short yardage guy.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
And I mean they did.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
So many things with him throwing the ball and running
it and pitching it and all that.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
He was brilliant.
Speaker 8 (41:32):
So people have done that stuff, but it's the volume
of plays that really get you freaked out about the
Colorado kid. But congratulations to coach Prime. I showed up
at work and everybody at Fox had an Eiffel Tower Boner. Well,
you can't say that, what is that?
Speaker 5 (41:54):
What does that look like as people walk down the hallways?
Is hard?
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Is hard?
Speaker 8 (41:59):
You know, it's like a backpack on a plane, but
the other way. But you know, because Fox has they
obviously Nebraska and then let's say, you know, Levar's wrong
and I.
Speaker 6 (42:12):
Have no clue.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
I don't either, to be honest, I'm just it's a
Big ten team. They played a quality opponent in Minnesota.
I just you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (42:25):
They should be better defensively.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
They should be better defensively, yes they should, but you know,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
But I just I think Nebraska might shock some people.
The hard part for.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
Me in thinking back and looking back on the Nebraska
tape was at the end of the game, when Minnesota
needed to throw the football make plays, they just worked
the ball down the field. I was like, well, that
was there for the entire game. You just chose not
to do it. Like what's happening here?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
Well, you know how sometimes a two minute drail reveals
something that was not revealed, and that's true too, But like,
can they keep pace?
Speaker 6 (43:02):
Can Nebraska's offense keep pace?
Speaker 5 (43:04):
That That's why I don't. I don't think they can.
Speaker 8 (43:06):
I mean that guy can't miss. I mean once I
saw the quarterback and I said, oh God, he can't miss. Yeah,
I mean I remember the last time I saw a
guy like that was like I remembered like and saying
that guy can't miss was like Joey Harrington and I
was rooting for Shador a lot more than Joey. But uh,
after after Colorado plays, uh Nebraska, I think they have
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the Rocky Mountain showdown, but then Fox has the Oregon game,
and then Fox has Colorado USC.
Speaker 6 (43:35):
Yeah, so ready to ride the buffalo if they can,
you know, I mean, they'll.
Speaker 5 (43:39):
Be three and oh I don't know about you know
what what happens after that.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Because LaVar makes a good point about the front and
how they match up offensively defensively versus some of these teams.
Oregon and I don't know that USCE necessarily, but they're improved.
But Oregon will definitely be that first test of that.
Speaker 8 (43:58):
Yeah, their balloon will at some point. But it was
a lot of fun on Saturday eight.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Petros, I mean, congratulations to your PAC twelve. Just in time,
just how about that? Just in time to break apart
the entire.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
Conference was still my question, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 4 (44:16):
That's horrible, but we was both jumping at it, so
you got it.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Go ahead, Petros.
Speaker 4 (44:21):
It's a great question that I was going to ask you,
but Jonas, totally.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Uh dynamic question.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
Are we surprise?
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Amazing question? It's amazing. I mean what is that? What?
But what is that? Like?
Speaker 4 (44:33):
What does that do for the whole you know, departures
taking place? I mean can't I mean, I said, everybody's
going to change their minds to say let's just run
it back and let's all stay in the PAC twelve
after this season.
Speaker 8 (44:43):
You know, on paper, you looked at it and you
knew they were going to be strong, and if any
of those teams had lost any of those.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Games, you know, I think people would be up in arms.
Speaker 8 (44:56):
I mean, Washington State, you know, they they're not us
to lose their their opener. Who did they play? I
forget but o Colorado State is way down, so Wazoo's
supposed to win. I mean, see, if they had lost,
we'd be we wouldn't forget about coach Prime. We'd be
talking about that. I guess UCLA beat an experienced quarterback
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and Grayson McCall. Arizona State beat Southern Utah in a haboob,
which is a dust storm, relaxed guy. Arizona played Northern
What is it called a boob?
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (45:32):
It's a I believe probably an indigenous word, a haboob,
or it just looks like a giant breast.
Speaker 6 (45:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of remember remember how we talked
about the a FFC West being top heavy.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
It's kind of like that.
Speaker 8 (45:44):
Yeah, Cal went, Cal went to North Texas and won,
and they have a very special back in Jaden Ought.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
He's so good.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Stanford beat Hawaii.
Speaker 8 (45:55):
I mean, okay, I mean Washington beat Boise State, but
Washington's excellent. Washington mean micro Pennix and no Dudent's a
and I like Boise and I liked their coach. But
you know, they got beat. We expected that at the Lake.
I mean, I just don't. I mean the Pactoe's thirteen
to no, but I just don't. I mean, and it's
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great and there's a lot of great teams. Oregon won
by eighty over Portland State. We obviously saw the Colorado game.
Utah beat Florida. Okay, so those two are the big ones, right,
Colorado beating TCU and Utah beating Florida and that's what
makes them undefeated. But that's the first time Florida cross
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the Mississippi since like the eighties literally to play a
non conference I just you know, it's a cool story,
and it's sad. It's sad no matter what. It's sad
if the Pac twelve Waszhing thirteen, you know, because our
conference has gone and our travel partners and our history
of playing each other. But as far as you know,
the actual you look into every week in every game,
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and it's really just the TCU and the Florida games
that jump out.
Speaker 5 (47:05):
Petros, do you think the Big ten and Big twelve
are walking around with Eiffel Tower boners sing, I.
Speaker 6 (47:12):
Mean it's happening next year, right right in five point forty.
Speaker 8 (47:18):
That guy just starts chirping at you, huh Eiffel Towers.
I would say that, uh that the Big twelve's got
a bit of a got a bit of a bone diggity.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
Yeah, we're about the old Big ten.
Speaker 6 (47:33):
This is not big in their name, you know they do.
Speaker 8 (47:36):
But I wouldn't be too boned up after I wouldn't
be too boned up after Jeff Tedford, the blue chew
of the of the San Joaquin Valley Cat.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Hey, what do you think, Mike right now?
Speaker 6 (47:50):
What?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
What's what's the bon aito doing right now? Rylers?
Speaker 6 (47:54):
My guy? I don't know, poor guy humiliated.
Speaker 8 (48:01):
I wonder if he's still in LA, like the old
guy at the club and like a shiny shirt and
like the Beyonce show.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
Yeah, trying to talk to Kerry Washington.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
Probably the country club at like two pm, talk about
orange drinking V and t's.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (48:16):
Sam, Well, that guy really chirps in everybody's ear.
Speaker 9 (48:19):
Oh yeah, well, if you want to chirp at Petros
at the old pe on Twitter, that is at the
old pe on Twitter Petros Papada gas pee.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
News I really wants to get I don't even want
to do the BQ news. Keep going, don't forget guys.
Speaker 8 (48:41):
We got Arizona State hosting Oklahoma State. Yeah, on Saturday
night on FS one. All right, guy versus Dillingham. What
a couple of weirdos.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Yeah. So Petro's always a good time and a Wednesday
tradition here to break at the far Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
Hey bet you, by the way, really good, God, it's
really good.
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