September 7, 2023 • 38 mins
Chris Jones is still holding out but reporters are wrong to say he’s letting his teammates down. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer joins the guys to preview the season. Plus, the daily edition of “You In or Out?”
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off later on tonight. We've got the Lions at the Chiefs.
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That is your season opener. Everybody's excited, including gamblers who
bet this line down to four and a half. The
Kansas City Chiefs now a four and a half point
favorite as they get set to defend their Super Bowl crown.
I believe this is probably the first time. So the
first time they defe when they were coming back as
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Super Bowl champions a couple of years ago, I think
that was the COVID year, right, so they couldn't really
have the celebration they wanted to have. So Arrowhead Stadium
tonight is going to be rocking on a Thursday. What,
Brad do you play there? What time you think they
start boozing there in.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Kansas party boozy right now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And then and then just let it fly all day long.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well, you have to understand, it's not so much the boozing,
it's more about the barbecue and boozing. So they're probably
they're probably out there at tailgate already and getting they're
set up already for tonight, took the day off work,
called in sick, and they're out there putting on a
tremendous slab.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You're telling ribs, you're talking.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Brisket, you're talking maybe some pulled pork in there, all right.
I mean, they're probably putting on a display. And to me,
it's the best barbecue I've had. So that's what it is.
It's the barbecue and the booze.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Now, if they take work off today, do they got
to show up tomorrow or is this a two day event.
This feels like you need some time to recover tomorrow.
So this feels like save up your vacation days. Maybe
you work labor day and tell your boss, Hey, in exchange,
can I get Thursday Friday off because they're going to
be banged up.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
And look if.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The momentum is going the way that it's going, and
you're not going to have Travis Kelsey, who is questionable,
but he is going to test out his knee later on.
You know, maybe maybe it's going to be a spoiler
situation for the Detroit Lions. Maybe Dan Campbell and those uh,
you know, the guys biting kneecaps.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Back in the day, a couple of years ago that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Everybody laughed at, which, by the way, you guys have
got to feel like a couple of proud parents slash
you know, broadcasters, because you were calling Lions games when
they were building.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
This whole thing.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And here we are opening up the season favored to
win their own division.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
How about that? That's right? How about Lions?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Now, Chris Jones is still not there? Have you followed
along on this show? This is a story.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
We talk about Chris Jones every single day for the
past few weeks, since this whole holdout began.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
We talk Chris.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Fallout, hold out, Oh, hold out, hold out, spill out,
talk about the fallout. That's what he's fallout. There's something
fallout from the contracts to.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Stop throwing rockets on the right.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Or the rundown in Dublin. Right, that's my move.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
If you are I did one, you did multiple If
you are, look, I was trying to draw the space shuttle.
I don't know what you were talking about. But if
you've if you've been following along with this show, you
know it is a daily update on the whereabouts of
Chris Jones. Now, he did appear yesterday at a charity
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event for the Kansas City Chiefs, a team charity event
that was going on, and he was asked about his situation.
He just said, look, I'm just looking for a little
bit of a raise. My goal is to retire at
Kansas City chief I can be there Thursday night if
we do get a deal done before kickoff, I can
be available and would be ready to play. And then
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he was also asked by a reporter there in Kansas
City if you felt like he was letting his teammates
down by not showing up and not being there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And here was the exchange.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Left the let teammates down at all? That's the criticism.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's the only criticism I've heard at all.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
That's what I got to ask, How have I let
him down? It's just like when you had a job. Hey,
you asked for a stincher, Right, you asked for a raise. Right,
You're not letting anyone down. Where are you letting down
for asking your boss for a raid?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
So where where you take the personal feelings out of it?
Speaker 9 (05:23):
And you kind of can get it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
All I'm doing is asking for a raise.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
So there it is.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
You know, did they tell the Kansas City Chiefs decision makers.
They're letting the team down. That see that. I just
always if you're going to say that that a player
has let the team down, then let's hear you say
that to the franchise as well.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's all.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Just be an equal opportunity blamer, you know, don't don't
make it seem like it's like, oh, the player is
letting the team, he's letting its teammates down.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
This is all right, dude.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
This is going back to the conversation we had about
the draft of Caleb Williams dad, because if you look
get what happens when when when things are working out,
who always gets the blame.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's always the player, It's all.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It doesn't matter if it's a contract dispute in this
case where he's asking for a raise, the front office,
the organization, they always spin it to the player. Al
he's letting his team down. Yeah, ask him about that.
Feed that question. Saria responds to that, right, I mean
that's what it always is because the people in position
of power, whether that's the owner, the front office, general manager,
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the head coach, they're not going to take any responsibility
and accountability for it. They want to keep their job,
Like that's what they want. They blame the player. The
players are the most replaceable thing, so you blame them.
So of course, like the narrative has to be, oh,
he's letting his team down, right, It can't be God forbid.
Wait a second, Hey, hey, don't you guys have your
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quarterback under contract? Could you just make more cap It's
not a cap space issue, is it? Because if you
need to make more cap space, you have the rating
MVP super Bowl paying your quarterback, Like, do you really
mind paying him more money? Like if you paid Patrick
Mahomes and gave him a fifty million dollars signing bonus
and spread it out over the life business contract just
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to create enough cap space for Chris Jones, is that
a problem for you, Kansas City? Like do the fans
have an issue with that? I would hope not. You've
got the best quarterback in the league. But of course,
like no one's going to actually direct anything at the
franchise to your point, LeVar and blame them. It always
always is going to get the player is gonna be
blamed for everything.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Always.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That is playbook one oh one for any sort of organization,
front office, contract, whatever dispute.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah, man, you know, it's just it's I don't know
that things like this shouldn't become complicated because it happens
all the time. And it's like fans had the same
reaction media, they had the same reaction. It happens all
the time. So at some point, why do you ask
the question, like do you feel like you're letting your
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teammates down? Why do you ask the question, Well, you know,
how much do you think you should get? You know,
how much they think they should be getting. It's out
there like it should be somewhere in between what Aaron
Donald got and what what's the highest paid what what
was it?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So I think Kansas City was offering him around twenty
four million Donalds in.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Between twenty four and thirty So he wants you already
know what the number is somewhere in there, like the
numbers somewhere in there. Like I just don't like when
people and Chris Jones is wanted like all like seriousness,
like a getting away from all of the joking that
we're doing. He's one of the nicest dudes you will
ever meet. Man, It's almost scary how nice the dude
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is willing.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
To share, just saying go ahead, man, I'm just saying,
you know, he's willing, he's willing to like open up
and just be up front.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
This is what this dude wants to talk about every
single time when.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
It comes to Christian were talking about.
Speaker 10 (09:06):
You.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We're so fascinated with that stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Okay, so weird? All right?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So when he misses this first cover every time, first
of all, you guys lead me down the road.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I didn't.
Speaker 11 (09:18):
I said, I prep all seriousness. Okay, you started laughing.
I said all seriousness. It was making a point, and
you took it to the combine.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Guy can't drop some produce in the aisle forty and
you got to make jokes about it all these years later.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I think it's unfortunate, and I think we're missing Some
would argue that point that it was you're like fascinated.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But all right, so if he misses this first game,
he's got to miss all eight, right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Glowing out nine?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Why does he have to miss all eight?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well, like, why would you miss one and then decide
all right, I'm gonna come back for week two, Like.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
If you're if your stuff, maybe maybe he wants to
come back and play. At that point, like why does
he have to take it all the way. He could
choose to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But what does it make sense if you're if you're
you're trying to make a statement that you want to
get paid, Like why would you miss the first game
of Decide? All right, well, you know, I'll just play
under this current contract.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because I think it's hard for a player to not
be out there playing when you're capable and you're able to.
I think it's hard to be able to sit back
and say, you're like, I want to go play, like
that's what I was born to do.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's hard. There's the business side of things, and then there's.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
The emotional side of things, and that's happened in the
emotional side of things, which we're human beings.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
That's how we operate.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Like if you can explain join us your fascination with
Chris Jones forty yard dash. I don't know, man, but
that's that's like, you know, that's more of an emotional
attachment you've got there.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Listen, you guys, steer me down this road. What do
you want me to do?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I don't want to, you know, that's all you. I
don't want to.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm not here to alienate my teammates, like Chris Jones
is right now not showing up to Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
That's what he's alienating his team anything. He's letting him down.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I let you got to be ten dollars ten dollars?
Did I that was very passive aggressive?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
What just man, Well, you talked about Washington earlier dollars
ten dollars.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I did bring out Washington. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
And by the way we were we were criticized for
having a comment about the whole draft thing and conversation
because oh, because they were victims of of of that.
But a great player overcomes it, like listen, man, you're
just gonna find something to complain. I would be you
would be hard pressed to be able if you run
the percentages of great players out of college that had
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average to below average pro careers, and it was based
off of the organizations that they went to and the
ones that had Hall of Fame careers, based off of
those same those same places, you'd be hard pressed to
find a lot a high number of players that had
Hall of Fame careers. How many how many Hall of
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Famers have come out of Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
How many Hall of famers Thomas is the most recent
and before him.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I I'd have to I'd have to look back.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Okay, when's the last time, when's the last time Webster Slaughter.
I can't even think of a Brown's player that's in
the Hall of Fame outside of Joe Thomas going in.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
I can draft it by to Brown, Jim Brown.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
So and then now go to Washington, name a name
a Hall of Famer drafted by the Washington football team
by the owner that just sold the team.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't think he has one r G three.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Here's the reality.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
He has one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
You're not wrong, but you're never gonna win this argument
with someone on Twitter because someone on Twitter, All right, no, no,
they just they have the ability to from their parents base,
they have the ability and say whatever they want, have
no responsibility for it ever anything in life, and then
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yet get you to respond to them. So it's why
I've always never given any power to Twitter, because why
would you why would you ever accept criticism from someone
that you.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Would never take advice from in the.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
First That's very true. It's not even just football. It's
nowadays you can't have a nuanced discussion about anything. It's
black or white, it's one thing or the other. Well,
it's their opinion or nothing. Yeah, and it's what they
think and what they feel or nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And that's the hard part is like as things have
become more digitally based or technology based, there's not a
lot of people who experienced much, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
But they can tell you what your experience your value.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
In the old days, when you would say something like
that to someone, if you said to their face, you
would get the reality of getting punched, and then they
would understand like, oh, I can't just say whatever I
want and not face repercussions. That's where on Twitter you can.
And that's why I you know, look again, people are
willing to say whatever they want on Twitter. They're not
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willing to say it in person because they're fearful of
those repercussions. And they should be. But now I've never
I never pay any attention to Twitter.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah I think I'm Yeah, I never get volatile.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I try, well, I won't say never, but I try
not to ever get volatile because it's it's not a
real place. But but in the end it's just kind
of again like just throw that throw that that little
thing out there, right, Like how many guys like look,
at let's look at the worst franch's worst ran franchises
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that are in the league and tell me how many
Hall of Famers that they have coming out.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Of their drafts?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Do people get because I think this gets lost in
the discussion. Did they realize how difficult it is to
get drafted in the NFL and get drafted in the
first round on top of that, like, what are the
percentages on that?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I just think I think.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Seven of high school athletes move on to play at
the collegiate. At the collegiate level, I believe in totality,
it's like three may make a roster, So I don't
know how that computes to a first round pick. But
then it's to make it like three years, which is
like the average career span of an NFL player.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You're talking about fractions of a percent.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Like if somebody came up to me and said, I'm
a brain surgeon, I wouldn't go for what hospital, Like
I'd you're like like that thing you put in the work,
like you're rarefied air.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
But with that being said, it's like what Q said earlier,
if you're if you're this great student that did their
residency and their fellowships, and all this and went through
the entire process and was at the tops of their
class at what they were doing, and it's like, oh, yeah,
we're going to send you to this this place, and
it's like the worst place that they could ever send
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you to to go perform there. You will perform at
a high level because that's what you do. You're performing
at a high level. But the way that performance is
marked and measured is by the performance and the rankings
of the.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Place you're in, the what you're accomplishing in the place
you're in.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Let me be a little more clear too about like
how I'm trying to describe the difference. So for an
athlete going up through their life, like it's a partnership
on both sides, Right, You've got a player who wants
to be where he's at.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
You've got a school on a team that wants him
there obviously.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And then in same thing in college, like they extend
an offer to you and you accept that offer, that's
the place you choose to then go play. The difference
with the draft is is you don't have it's a
one sided deal. It's like being on the Bachelor Bachelorette
and they give you a Rosion, You're like, how don't
I even like you that much? Just like came on
the TV show, you know, like I'm just struadying a
little FaceTime. You're saying, like it's it's not a partnership
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between both because you're getting drafted by an organization and
a team that you might have reservations about it.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You might say, I'd rather go play for these guys.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And so that's the tough part is you know, when
we talk about like an organization and a quarterback and
the marriage between the two, it's only one sided, which
unless it's a great situation where both really want to
be there and that and that's all I'm pointing out
is the fact that if you've got a bad organization,
it's going to be really really hard to make those
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things work and make it a happy marriage.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
If you will.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And listen to anybody out there that is a fan
of the show and doesn't spew negativity on Twitter, and
you happen to be listening in your parents' basement, Hey,
it's all good, No no criticism here, all right.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Just the other people that that would be talking about.
How's that?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Ten Dolarge, He's just mad because I want to just
text them.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
The group checks passive aggressive.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
By the way, good for you.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
One of the most underrated things you can text somebody
is a g f Y.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
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the really yeah, that's like my that's kind of like
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like fo R it's like four.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Oh yeah, that's actually that kind of stings.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's like respectfully yeah, yeah, yeah, well respectfully. We do
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Speaker 5 (19:28):
How we feeling here on a Thursday?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Pretty good?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
How you guys doing good?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The Chiefs would probably feel better if Chris Jones was
in camp, if Travis Kelsey was feeling a little bit
healthy and getting ready to go for later on tonight.
I mean, first the Kelsey situation, what's your feeling from
people you've talked to? And then also how long could
this Chris Jones situation drag out for?
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah? I think the Kelsey situation is going to go
right up until right up until the inactive is an
Now it's an hour and a half before kickof Uh,
they're trying to get him going. You know, the prognosis
coming out of it on Tuesday was the the ligaments
were intact, but there was a lot of swelling, and
so I'm really they've been waiting for the swelling to
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come to go down. And then you know, with the
bone bruise, it becomes a pain tolerance is you know,
they're not going to say that publicly because that puts
the player in a tough spot, but obviously it's a
very painful thing. It becomes you know, how functional can
you be with it? And so they're going to kind
of work through that today. Obviously if they if they
give them the night off, then there's a benefit of
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ten days of rest and then he can come back,
you know, for week two in pretty good shape. So
that's where Kelsey is. And then you know, the Chris
Jones thing has been complicated for a while, and I
actually think I actually think Nick Bosa kind of gave
Chris Jones an assist yesterday because you know, the whole
thing here has been you know, if you're the chiefs,
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do you go to the numbers? That that that Aaron Donald.
You know, and I think the Chiefs try to tell
you that the Nick Bosa numbers are relevant, but you know,
Chris Jones is a sort of game changing player where
he could say, well, you know, if Nick Bosa is
worth thirty four, then I'm certainly worth thirty. So the
divide is, as we talked about the last couple of weeks,
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guys has been on you know, Aaron Donald's contract being
an outlier versus the rest of the defensive tackle market.
What Quinnon Williams got, what Jeffrey Shimmons got, what Dexter
Lawrence got, like in that twenty four to twenty five
million dollar range. Well, you know, now that Nick Bosa
has done his CEO, is probably a lot more difficult
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for the Chiefs to make the argument that Aaron Donald's
number is just some outlier that shouldn't be discussed.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Albert, I'm curious only because we were just talking about
this a moment ago, like what's holding Kansas City back?
I mean, Chris Jones was the best defensive tackle last
year and Aaron Donald wasn't there. He's He's arguably a
top three player on that roster. If a quarterback. They
could restructure that. You could make the case you probably
want to restructure with Patrick Mahomes anyway, is largely being
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underpaid for service.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Has come off an MVP season, Like, what's the hold
up from the chief side of this?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yeah, well, I don't even know if it's arguable that
he's a top three player on that roster, right, Like
the Chiefs has sort of let us know who their
three most important players are. There are the three guys
that have been there, you know, for this run of
five straight AFC title games and two Super Bowl wins.
So you know, I certainly think Chris Jones is you know,
a top three player in that roster and probably the
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second best player of his era, you know at this
position behind Aaron Donald. What's holding the back?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Right?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I would say, it's just, you know, a whole lot
of contractual precedent, you know. And I think what what
most negotiators in these situations would tell you is if
you may if you start making exceptions for one player,
well then you're gonna have a line of other players
waiting and asking for you to make exceptions for them.
And you know whether that's right or not, But that's
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just the way that negotiators, the chief negotiators for a
lot of these teams work. And you know, being willing
to pay somebody the top of the market is one thing.
Being willing to go far above the market or treat
somebody as an outliers another thing. And again like I
do think that there's a middle ground here and the
good news is like a lot of background I think
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has been covered, Like I, you know, I the Chiefs
have shown a willingness should go up and and and
above what what what Shimmon's got? And what and and
and what Clinton Williams got, And the Donald camp has
been willing to concede like hey, we'll take a little
less than than Donald got, you know. So I think
like there's that there's definitely been some work done here.
(23:44):
I just think the question now becomes, you know, how
does the Bosa negotiation affect this? And there's the there's
there's the Bosa contracts. Mate Jones stiggas heels it now
if you can look at it and say again, like
I've made the impact the Chiefs that Nick Post has
made on the Niners.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
So I have no reason to move.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Anymore, especially when I've given up more than two million
dollars in fines and walked away from a half million
dollar work out bonus.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
What should the expectation of tonight's game be from your
your estimation?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You know, it's a bigger game for the Lions than
it is the Chiefs. I'd say, you know, Chiefs are
sort of in that position, and you know, I did
they happen in that position where they can I'm not
saying they can screw around for the first month of
the season, but look, I've sort of thought about this
with the Kelsey thing. You know, it's like, if the
Chiefs are two and two, do we do we think
they're at the end of September? Do we think they're
(24:40):
not going to win the h us? You know what
I mean? Like, I think they'd probably still find a
way to pull it out. You know.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's so.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
You know, it's where you know, the Packers work for
a lot of years and they had Aaron Rodgers, or
the Patriots were with Tom Brady. When you know you
have that player in that quarterback, you sort of have
a little bit of time to work things out early
in the year, almost like an extended training camp. For
the Lions. Obviously, there is a chance to make a statement.
There's a chance to building the momentum of last year
(25:08):
and a chance to show that all the hype and
everything else has been around them, the expectations that have
been around them.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Are justified.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
And so that's what's going to be interesting to me,
is you know, like, how does the Lions look coming
out of this, because you know, being in the position
of the Hunters a lot different than being you know,
in the position of hunter. And I'm not saying theyd
be the hundred when it comes to the Chiefs, but
you know, there's been a lot of things out there
on the Lion's arrival. So you know, how does how
does Jared Goff look? How does that run game look?
(25:39):
Does the offensive line play as well as it did
last year? The defense, you know, which was historically bad
through the first half of last year, but really turned
it around down the stretch. They they pick up where
they left off. I just think at this point, like
if the Chiefs don't look great, then you know, you
know whatever, they'll pick it up, They'll figure it out.
I think this is actually a pretty big game for
the Lions coming into the season.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Show her the're at get them On Twitter at. Albert Breers,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Before we let you go, we do
want to get your Super Bowl pick, Albert, But I
wanted to ask you, is there a team that you've
heard a lot of people talk, you know, positive about,
expectations are high, feel good about them going into the
(26:20):
year that you look at them and you go either
you saw them up close and personal in your training
camp tour, but you're just not a believer in this
team being a playoff team that some people are.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
You know, I the one team I'm a little I'd
say I'm a little concerned about. I think it's going
to be important that they get off to the right
kind of start. And I did put them in the
playoffs would be Dallas.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I think there's.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
A lot of pressure on people in that organization right now.
You know Kellen Moore. I think Callen Moore is a
really good offensive coordinator. So what does it look like
now with Mike McCarthy wearing both hats, there are I
mean it's down to like there are coaches in that
organization who are in a contract year this year that
didn't get extended where I look at it and there's
(27:10):
a lot of pressure on a lot of people in
that organization or quarterback included, and I just know, like
having covered that team, you know, I was on the
beat down there, oh seven L eight, I've got a
pretty good idea of the way things work down there
is that things can kind of build on themselves there,
you know, and the pressure can kind of take on
(27:30):
a life of its own. So I just think it's
going to be important for the Cowboys to get out
of the gate strong. And again I picked them to
have to make the playoff. They've got the talent to
get there. Michael Parsons should be a defensive Player of
the Year candidate. I think, see Lamb's gonna have a
huge year. But you know, you look at and I
just they're the one where I look at and say,
there's there's a lot of pressure on a lot of
(27:51):
people in that organization, and you sort of wonder if
it could take as toll if they get off to
a shaky start.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Did you listen to the show?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, almost the exact same thing.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I mean, we we mirror the same sentiments on this. Okay, Yeah,
I just sort of know that you put that I
did not put it the same way.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
The other thing about them guys is I just I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Know, well them boys actually Albert dumb boys.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Yeah, they've got it good. They've got good frontline talent,
right like when you look at like the high end talent,
they got it there.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Okay, Albert, do you believe in Dak? Do you believe
that question?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I mean, I think like if we look at Dak,
if we look at if we look at Dak Brady,
like when things have been right around him, he's been good.
But they don't have the dominant run game anymore. There's
gonna be boring him to you know, win games for
that offense.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Do you believe in him?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Do you believe in Dak's ability to take them to
take this team to the superos LeVar doesn't.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I believe.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I believe Dak can be a deck deck the type
of player who I hate to compare him to Kirk Cousins,
but I think that there's like.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
A little bit of us.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
It's a valid comparison.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
No, but I just think it's like one of those
guys like Kirk is great, like when everything's right around him,
you know what I mean? Like I just think Dak
is sort of that type of guy where when like,
I love him as a guy and a competitor and
all that, and I think that shows up when everything's
right around him. I just don't think he can carry
a team when I'm not saying to carry a team
when there's more on him.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
You just said no. But that's cool. How would you ab?
You just said no?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Though?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
All right, I'm trying to be I'm trying. I'm trying
to give you as a political clicker.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Hey, ab, let's end on the high note. How about
the Buckeyes Pat?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
How about them buck?
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Defense?
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Foot awsoin man, it was one hundred and fifty yards
of offense, uh three points allowed in a uh in
a Big ten game on the road. I mean that
wasn't bad. Quarterbacks got a level up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I'll just I mean, what do you think by your
offensive line play? I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
That's the thing though. That's the thing though, it is
like that those tackles. We gotta we gotta clean that up.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
By uh.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean, all I heard, all I kept hearing was like, oh,
like there's no one, no reason, no house they should
be worried about anyone on their schedule. Now, I feel
like you should be worried about everyone on your schedule
after watching that.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh wow, that's a strong take, Brady.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Really yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I mean, look, I'll put it this way.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You guys only got a Mechagmuka and Melvin Harrison five
receptions apiece, and I mean two of the best receivers,
top prospects.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And the other thing is is you got to wonder,
especially as the season wears on, if those guys want
to put themselves at risk. You know, the way things
were kind of looking early in that game, it didn't
look like they were too happy about the situation their quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You Like, is that what you're saying. No, I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I'm saying like there was a couple of times when
the balls were high and they got like undercut and
and you're kind of watching their body lands you get up.
You're thinking like, yeah, dude, I get it, Like why
do you want.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
To be out of here for this?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Like you mean like there's some I would say, like
like protecting the investment going on out there.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well, yeah, you can make the case that happened a
little bit last year.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Yeah, Yeah, Well, I'm interested to see what happens when
they can open it up a little bit more. I
I like, it didn't seem like they were doing a
ton to free up Marv and a Mecca, you know,
And it just makes me wonder how much they're holding
back and how much movie they didn't want to show
certain things. But you know, again, like I like, I think,
(31:40):
you know, to be able to like and I don't
want to overreact, and I don't want to be I mean, god,
I don't want to get in the crosschairs of Kirk
kurb Streak because he's uh, he's a mayor of buck
Eye Nation. He's he's been, he's been, he's been taking
shots to people in the fan base. I want to
I want to see what happens when they're able to
open it up a little bit more and the quarterback's
(32:00):
able to use the field a little bit more. They're
doing more to free up the receiver by moving them around.
It didn't seem like they did a ton to put
those guys up last week, which I wonder if that's
by design.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Albert, we got about twenty seconds, you got a Super
Bowl pick. Who's coming out of the AFC who's coming
out of the NFC.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I got the Bengals over the Niners. So throwback to
nineteen eighty eight when the result being flipped in Joe
Burrow being the Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
So there you go, Hey, who's the quarterback for the Niners?
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Who's the quarterback? Who's quarterbacking? Though? Who's starting in the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Rock perty Bertie, don't sleep on BCB.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
All right, Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Get them on Twitter at at Albert Breer. We appreciate it.
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
All right, thanks, all right.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
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Speaker 7 (34:07):
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Speaker 5 (34:15):
He stup.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
When your mind is playing tricks on your h Hey, man,
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Speaker 6 (34:27):
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Speaker 5 (34:28):
It is a dope dude. What is his name Scarface?
Cause he's got a scar on.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I don't know the story of why they call him scarface,
But but Brad is a beat Well. I think he's Brad.
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Speaker 5 (34:56):
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Speaker 2 (35:17):
Two pros in a cup of show what you to
know they're in please or they're out?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Lee to lat what do we got guys? Are you
in or out on Hurricane Lee? I'm out on hurricane.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Would you Why would you be in a hurricane that
could potentially.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I'm I'm just asking in her out man. I'm in
because the name, damn ran in or out? Are you
and Lee? Are you in a hurricane Lee? I'm in
the name.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
So you're in.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Oh my god, I'm in Lee. So are you in?
Are you in on this? I'm in the name. Yeah,
you're in on the name in the name.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
No, No, I know you're think about the fact that
there could be some people's like houses that are ruined.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying you should most likely be
out bad person by you, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
But it's gonna miss the island. But you're in on
even you're just in on it being named Lee. I'm
in on it missing and missing. Are you in on
the hurricane being named Lee? I'm in. I'm in the name. Okay, Hey, Rod, I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
In the name.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We know you're what else besides death people death on anybody? Damn.
But the hurricane was named after me.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
That I'm a lover, Brady, and that's why it's National
Beer Lovers Day. Are you in er out on National
beer Lovers.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Yeah, of course, yeah, that's not I p Yeah, come on,
who's not there some beer lovers we don't believe in
Servesa beers in on the East Coast. By the way,
if you ask for mo dello or like anything like that,
like they're like we don't have that really, yes, yeah,
(37:07):
it's too bad. It's kind of interesting man, all right, good.
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Yeah, when I am on the East Coast or somewhere,
when I see a survey, so then I'm like, oh sweet.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
That's kind of crazy man, Like what's the other one?
That that they had a Mexican beer in Dublin?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
What's the other one? Pacifico? Like you'll never hear Pacifico
on on the East Coast. He probably shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Well you don't. I love Pacific Coast. Yes, and a
frosted mug. Yeah, alright.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
We got a couple of movies coming out this weekend,
My Big Fact Greek Wedding three none.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Two, A couple of sequels I didn't see one or two.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Ow ow ow out none.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Football baby, Yeah, NFL's back. College football. I am out
of anything other than football.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
But the way, what a what a loser? If you
decide this is the weekend you want to open up
your movie.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
You are a leader with no awareness. I mean, but yeah,
but his name is it?
Speaker 10 (38:00):
Just because I'm giving you the option doesn't mean I'm
in on something that you're out on.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And by the way, let me just say this, if
you go to a movie as opposed to watching NFL
this weekend, you're an idiot and a loser.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
And I don't want to call me.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
He had watching a horse, He had us watching a
horror flick sty with hammers. Yeah, what was running around
about somebody's or baby.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Out with hammer out
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Out
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That is your season opener. Everybody's excited, including gamblers who
bet this line down to four and a half. The
Kansas City Chiefs now a four and a half point
favorite as they get set to defend their Super Bowl crown.
I believe this is probably the first time. So the
first time they defe when they were coming back as
(01:38):
Super Bowl champions a couple of years ago, I think
that was the COVID year, right, so they couldn't really
have the celebration they wanted to have. So Arrowhead Stadium
tonight is going to be rocking on a Thursday. What,
Brad do you play there? What time you think they
start boozing there in.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Kansas party boozy right now? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And then and then just let it fly all day long.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Well, you have to understand, it's not so much the boozing,
it's more about the barbecue and boozing. So they're probably
they're probably out there at tailgate already and getting they're
set up already for tonight, took the day off work,
called in sick, and they're out there putting on a
tremendous slab.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You're telling ribs, you're talking.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Brisket, you're talking maybe some pulled pork in there, all right.
I mean, they're probably putting on a display. And to me,
it's the best barbecue I've had. So that's what it is.
It's the barbecue and the booze.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Now, if they take work off today, do they got
to show up tomorrow or is this a two day event.
This feels like you need some time to recover tomorrow.
So this feels like save up your vacation days. Maybe
you work labor day and tell your boss, Hey, in exchange,
can I get Thursday Friday off because they're going to
be banged up.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
And look if.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
The momentum is going the way that it's going, and
you're not going to have Travis Kelsey, who is questionable,
but he is going to test out his knee later on.
You know, maybe maybe it's going to be a spoiler
situation for the Detroit Lions. Maybe Dan Campbell and those uh,
you know, the guys biting kneecaps.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Back in the day, a couple of years ago that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Everybody laughed at, which, by the way, you guys have
got to feel like a couple of proud parents slash
you know, broadcasters, because you were calling Lions games when
they were building.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
This whole thing.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And here we are opening up the season favored to
win their own division.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
How about that? That's right? How about Lions?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Now, Chris Jones is still not there? Have you followed
along on this show? This is a story.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
We talk about Chris Jones every single day for the
past few weeks, since this whole holdout began.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
We talk Chris.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Fallout, hold out, Oh, hold out, hold out, spill out,
talk about the fallout. That's what he's fallout. There's something
fallout from the contracts to.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Stop throwing rockets on the right.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Or the rundown in Dublin. Right, that's my move.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
If you are I did one, you did multiple If
you are, look, I was trying to draw the space shuttle.
I don't know what you were talking about. But if
you've if you've been following along with this show, you
know it is a daily update on the whereabouts of
Chris Jones. Now, he did appear yesterday at a charity
(04:28):
event for the Kansas City Chiefs, a team charity event
that was going on, and he was asked about his situation.
He just said, look, I'm just looking for a little
bit of a raise. My goal is to retire at
Kansas City chief I can be there Thursday night if
we do get a deal done before kickoff, I can
be available and would be ready to play. And then
(04:50):
he was also asked by a reporter there in Kansas
City if you felt like he was letting his teammates
down by not showing up and not being there.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
And here was the exchange.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Left the let teammates down at all? That's the criticism.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
That's the only criticism I've heard at all.
Speaker 8 (05:06):
That's what I got to ask, How have I let
him down? It's just like when you had a job. Hey,
you asked for a stincher, Right, you asked for a raise. Right,
You're not letting anyone down. Where are you letting down
for asking your boss for a raid?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Right?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
So where where you take the personal feelings out of it?
Speaker 9 (05:23):
And you kind of can get it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
All I'm doing is asking for a raise.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
So there it is.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
You know, did they tell the Kansas City Chiefs decision makers.
They're letting the team down. That see that. I just
always if you're going to say that that a player
has let the team down, then let's hear you say
that to the franchise as well.
Speaker 5 (05:43):
That's all.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
Just be an equal opportunity blamer, you know, don't don't
make it seem like it's like, oh, the player is
letting the team, he's letting its teammates down.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
This is all right, dude.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
This is going back to the conversation we had about
the draft of Caleb Williams dad, because if you look
get what happens when when when things are working out,
who always gets the blame.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's always the player, It's all.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
It doesn't matter if it's a contract dispute in this
case where he's asking for a raise, the front office,
the organization, they always spin it to the player. Al
he's letting his team down. Yeah, ask him about that.
Feed that question. Saria responds to that, right, I mean
that's what it always is because the people in position
of power, whether that's the owner, the front office, general manager,
(06:30):
the head coach, they're not going to take any responsibility
and accountability for it. They want to keep their job,
Like that's what they want. They blame the player. The
players are the most replaceable thing, so you blame them.
So of course, like the narrative has to be, oh,
he's letting his team down, right, It can't be God forbid.
Wait a second, Hey, hey, don't you guys have your
(06:50):
quarterback under contract? Could you just make more cap It's
not a cap space issue, is it? Because if you
need to make more cap space, you have the rating
MVP super Bowl paying your quarterback, Like, do you really
mind paying him more money? Like if you paid Patrick
Mahomes and gave him a fifty million dollars signing bonus
and spread it out over the life business contract just
(07:13):
to create enough cap space for Chris Jones, is that
a problem for you, Kansas City? Like do the fans
have an issue with that? I would hope not. You've
got the best quarterback in the league. But of course,
like no one's going to actually direct anything at the
franchise to your point, LeVar and blame them. It always
always is going to get the player is gonna be
blamed for everything.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Always.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
That is playbook one oh one for any sort of organization,
front office, contract, whatever dispute.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah, man, you know, it's just it's I don't know
that things like this shouldn't become complicated because it happens
all the time. And it's like fans had the same
reaction media, they had the same reaction. It happens all
the time. So at some point, why do you ask
the question, like do you feel like you're letting your
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teammates down? Why do you ask the question, Well, you know,
how much do you think you should get? You know,
how much they think they should be getting. It's out
there like it should be somewhere in between what Aaron
Donald got and what what's the highest paid what what
was it?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
So I think Kansas City was offering him around twenty
four million Donalds in.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
Between twenty four and thirty So he wants you already
know what the number is somewhere in there, like the
numbers somewhere in there. Like I just don't like when
people and Chris Jones is wanted like all like seriousness,
like a getting away from all of the joking that
we're doing. He's one of the nicest dudes you will
ever meet. Man, It's almost scary how nice the dude
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is willing.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
To share, just saying go ahead, man, I'm just saying,
you know, he's willing, he's willing to like open up
and just be up front.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
This is what this dude wants to talk about every
single time when.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
It comes to Christian were talking about.
Speaker 10 (09:06):
You.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
We're so fascinated with that stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Okay, so weird? All right?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So when he misses this first cover every time, first
of all, you guys lead me down the road.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
I didn't.
Speaker 11 (09:18):
I said, I prep all seriousness. Okay, you started laughing.
I said all seriousness. It was making a point, and
you took it to the combine.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Guy can't drop some produce in the aisle forty and
you got to make jokes about it all these years later.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
I think it's unfortunate, and I think we're missing Some
would argue that point that it was you're like fascinated.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But all right, so if he misses this first game,
he's got to miss all eight, right.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Glowing out nine?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Why does he have to miss all eight?
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Well, like, why would you miss one and then decide
all right, I'm gonna come back for week two, Like.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
If you're if your stuff, maybe maybe he wants to
come back and play. At that point, like why does
he have to take it all the way. He could
choose to do whatever he wants.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
But what does it make sense if you're if you're
you're trying to make a statement that you want to
get paid, Like why would you miss the first game
of Decide? All right, well, you know, I'll just play
under this current contract.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because I think it's hard for a player to not
be out there playing when you're capable and you're able to.
I think it's hard to be able to sit back
and say, you're like, I want to go play, like
that's what I was born to do.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
It's hard. There's the business side of things, and then there's.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
The emotional side of things, and that's happened in the
emotional side of things, which we're human beings.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
That's how we operate.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Like if you can explain join us your fascination with
Chris Jones forty yard dash. I don't know, man, but
that's that's like, you know, that's more of an emotional
attachment you've got there.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Listen, you guys, steer me down this road. What do
you want me to do?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
We don't.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
I don't want to, you know, that's all you. I
don't want to.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'm not here to alienate my teammates, like Chris Jones
is right now not showing up to Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (10:58):
That's what he's alienating his team anything. He's letting him down.
Speaker 7 (11:01):
I let you got to be ten dollars ten dollars?
Did I that was very passive aggressive?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
What just man, Well, you talked about Washington earlier dollars
ten dollars.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I did bring out Washington. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
And by the way we were we were criticized for
having a comment about the whole draft thing and conversation
because oh, because they were victims of of of that.
But a great player overcomes it, like listen, man, you're
just gonna find something to complain. I would be you
would be hard pressed to be able if you run
the percentages of great players out of college that had
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average to below average pro careers, and it was based
off of the organizations that they went to and the
ones that had Hall of Fame careers, based off of
those same those same places, you'd be hard pressed to
find a lot a high number of players that had
Hall of Fame careers. How many how many Hall of
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Famers have come out of Cleveland?
Speaker 4 (12:03):
How many Hall of famers Thomas is the most recent
and before him.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I I'd have to I'd have to look back.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Okay, when's the last time, when's the last time Webster Slaughter.
I can't even think of a Brown's player that's in
the Hall of Fame outside of Joe Thomas going in.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
I can draft it by to Brown, Jim Brown.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
So and then now go to Washington, name a name
a Hall of Famer drafted by the Washington football team
by the owner that just sold the team.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I don't think he has one r G three.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Here's the reality.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
He has one.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
You're not wrong, but you're never gonna win this argument
with someone on Twitter because someone on Twitter, All right, no, no,
they just they have the ability to from their parents base,
they have the ability and say whatever they want, have
no responsibility for it ever anything in life, and then
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yet get you to respond to them. So it's why
I've always never given any power to Twitter, because why
would you why would you ever accept criticism from someone
that you.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Would never take advice from in the.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
First That's very true. It's not even just football. It's
nowadays you can't have a nuanced discussion about anything. It's
black or white, it's one thing or the other. Well,
it's their opinion or nothing. Yeah, and it's what they
think and what they feel or nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
And that's the hard part is like as things have
become more digitally based or technology based, there's not a
lot of people who experienced much, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
But they can tell you what your experience your value.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
In the old days, when you would say something like
that to someone, if you said to their face, you
would get the reality of getting punched, and then they
would understand like, oh, I can't just say whatever I
want and not face repercussions. That's where on Twitter you can.
And that's why I you know, look again, people are
willing to say whatever they want on Twitter. They're not
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willing to say it in person because they're fearful of
those repercussions. And they should be. But now I've never
I never pay any attention to Twitter.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yeah I think I'm Yeah, I never get volatile.
Speaker 7 (14:16):
I try, well, I won't say never, but I try
not to ever get volatile because it's it's not a
real place. But but in the end it's just kind
of again like just throw that throw that that little
thing out there, right, Like how many guys like look,
at let's look at the worst franch's worst ran franchises
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that are in the league and tell me how many
Hall of Famers that they have coming out.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Of their drafts?
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Do people get because I think this gets lost in
the discussion. Did they realize how difficult it is to
get drafted in the NFL and get drafted in the
first round on top of that, like, what are the
percentages on that?
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I just think I think.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Seven of high school athletes move on to play at
the collegiate. At the collegiate level, I believe in totality,
it's like three may make a roster, So I don't
know how that computes to a first round pick. But
then it's to make it like three years, which is
like the average career span of an NFL player.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
You're talking about fractions of a percent.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Like if somebody came up to me and said, I'm
a brain surgeon, I wouldn't go for what hospital, Like
I'd you're like like that thing you put in the work,
like you're rarefied air.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
But with that being said, it's like what Q said earlier,
if you're if you're this great student that did their
residency and their fellowships, and all this and went through
the entire process and was at the tops of their
class at what they were doing, and it's like, oh, yeah,
we're going to send you to this this place, and
it's like the worst place that they could ever send
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you to to go perform there. You will perform at
a high level because that's what you do. You're performing
at a high level. But the way that performance is
marked and measured is by the performance and the rankings
of the.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Place you're in, the what you're accomplishing in the place
you're in.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Let me be a little more clear too about like
how I'm trying to describe the difference. So for an
athlete going up through their life, like it's a partnership
on both sides, Right, You've got a player who wants
to be where he's at.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
You've got a school on a team that wants him
there obviously.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
And then in same thing in college, like they extend
an offer to you and you accept that offer, that's
the place you choose to then go play. The difference
with the draft is is you don't have it's a
one sided deal. It's like being on the Bachelor Bachelorette
and they give you a Rosion, You're like, how don't
I even like you that much? Just like came on
the TV show, you know, like I'm just struadying a
little FaceTime. You're saying, like it's it's not a partnership
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between both because you're getting drafted by an organization and
a team that you might have reservations about it.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
You might say, I'd rather go play for these guys.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
And so that's the tough part is you know, when
we talk about like an organization and a quarterback and
the marriage between the two, it's only one sided, which
unless it's a great situation where both really want to
be there and that and that's all I'm pointing out
is the fact that if you've got a bad organization,
it's going to be really really hard to make those
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things work and make it a happy marriage.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
If you will.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
And listen to anybody out there that is a fan
of the show and doesn't spew negativity on Twitter, and
you happen to be listening in your parents' basement, Hey,
it's all good, No no criticism here, all right.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Just the other people that that would be talking about.
How's that?
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Ten Dolarge, He's just mad because I want to just
text them.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
The group checks passive aggressive.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
By the way, good for you.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
One of the most underrated things you can text somebody
is a g f Y.
Speaker 7 (17:57):
It's I'm personally like the f O personally better than
the really yeah, that's like my that's kind of like
my new thing lately too. It's really I really like it.
I mean that's like euro isn't it. That's the Euro
version of it, right, eurostep. Yeah, with the FO could
be and I edit respectfully at the end, so it's
(18:17):
like fo R it's like four.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Oh yeah, that's actually that kind of stings.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's like respectfully yeah, yeah, yeah, well respectfully. We do
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It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and
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Speaker 5 (19:18):
But now we turn it over to Albert Breer.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Senior NFL reporter at the MmpB can get him on
Twitter at Albert Breer Albert, Happy opening day in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
How we feeling here on a Thursday?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
Pretty good?
Speaker 4 (19:30):
How you guys doing good?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Now?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
The Chiefs would probably feel better if Chris Jones was
in camp, if Travis Kelsey was feeling a little bit
healthy and getting ready to go for later on tonight.
I mean, first the Kelsey situation, what's your feeling from
people you've talked to? And then also how long could
this Chris Jones situation drag out for?
Speaker 6 (19:51):
Yeah? I think the Kelsey situation is going to go
right up until right up until the inactive is an
Now it's an hour and a half before kickof Uh,
they're trying to get him going. You know, the prognosis
coming out of it on Tuesday was the the ligaments
were intact, but there was a lot of swelling, and
so I'm really they've been waiting for the swelling to
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come to go down. And then you know, with the
bone bruise, it becomes a pain tolerance is you know,
they're not going to say that publicly because that puts
the player in a tough spot, but obviously it's a
very painful thing. It becomes you know, how functional can
you be with it? And so they're going to kind
of work through that today. Obviously if they if they
give them the night off, then there's a benefit of
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ten days of rest and then he can come back,
you know, for week two in pretty good shape. So
that's where Kelsey is. And then you know, the Chris
Jones thing has been complicated for a while, and I
actually think I actually think Nick Bosa kind of gave
Chris Jones an assist yesterday because you know, the whole
thing here has been you know, if you're the chiefs,
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do you go to the numbers? That that that Aaron Donald.
You know, and I think the Chiefs try to tell
you that the Nick Bosa numbers are relevant, but you know,
Chris Jones is a sort of game changing player where
he could say, well, you know, if Nick Bosa is
worth thirty four, then I'm certainly worth thirty. So the
divide is, as we talked about the last couple of weeks,
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guys has been on you know, Aaron Donald's contract being
an outlier versus the rest of the defensive tackle market.
What Quinnon Williams got, what Jeffrey Shimmons got, what Dexter
Lawrence got, like in that twenty four to twenty five
million dollar range. Well, you know, now that Nick Bosa
has done his CEO, is probably a lot more difficult
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for the Chiefs to make the argument that Aaron Donald's
number is just some outlier that shouldn't be discussed.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Albert, I'm curious only because we were just talking about
this a moment ago, like what's holding Kansas City back?
I mean, Chris Jones was the best defensive tackle last
year and Aaron Donald wasn't there. He's He's arguably a
top three player on that roster. If a quarterback. They
could restructure that. You could make the case you probably
want to restructure with Patrick Mahomes anyway, is largely being
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underpaid for service.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Has come off an MVP season, Like, what's the hold
up from the chief side of this?
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Yeah, well, I don't even know if it's arguable that
he's a top three player on that roster, right, Like
the Chiefs has sort of let us know who their
three most important players are. There are the three guys
that have been there, you know, for this run of
five straight AFC title games and two Super Bowl wins.
So you know, I certainly think Chris Jones is you know,
a top three player in that roster and probably the
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second best player of his era, you know at this
position behind Aaron Donald. What's holding the back?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Right?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
I would say, it's just, you know, a whole lot
of contractual precedent, you know. And I think what what
most negotiators in these situations would tell you is if
you may if you start making exceptions for one player,
well then you're gonna have a line of other players
waiting and asking for you to make exceptions for them.
And you know whether that's right or not, But that's
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just the way that negotiators, the chief negotiators for a
lot of these teams work. And you know, being willing
to pay somebody the top of the market is one thing.
Being willing to go far above the market or treat
somebody as an outliers another thing. And again like I
do think that there's a middle ground here and the
good news is like a lot of background I think
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has been covered, Like I, you know, I the Chiefs
have shown a willingness should go up and and and
above what what what Shimmon's got? And what and and
and what Clinton Williams got, And the Donald camp has
been willing to concede like hey, we'll take a little
less than than Donald got, you know. So I think
like there's that there's definitely been some work done here.
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I just think the question now becomes, you know, how
does the Bosa negotiation affect this? And there's the there's
there's the Bosa contracts. Mate Jones stiggas heels it now
if you can look at it and say again, like
I've made the impact the Chiefs that Nick Post has
made on the Niners.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
So I have no reason to move.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Anymore, especially when I've given up more than two million
dollars in fines and walked away from a half million
dollar work out bonus.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
What should the expectation of tonight's game be from your
your estimation?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
You know, it's a bigger game for the Lions than
it is the Chiefs. I'd say, you know, Chiefs are
sort of in that position, and you know, I did
they happen in that position where they can I'm not
saying they can screw around for the first month of
the season, but look, I've sort of thought about this
with the Kelsey thing. You know, it's like, if the
Chiefs are two and two, do we do we think
they're at the end of September? Do we think they're
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not going to win the h us? You know what
I mean? Like, I think they'd probably still find a
way to pull it out. You know.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
It's so.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
You know, it's where you know, the Packers work for
a lot of years and they had Aaron Rodgers, or
the Patriots were with Tom Brady. When you know you
have that player in that quarterback, you sort of have
a little bit of time to work things out early
in the year, almost like an extended training camp. For
the Lions. Obviously, there is a chance to make a statement.
There's a chance to building the momentum of last year
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and a chance to show that all the hype and
everything else has been around them, the expectations that have
been around them.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Are justified.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
And so that's what's going to be interesting to me,
is you know, like, how does the Lions look coming
out of this, because you know, being in the position
of the Hunters a lot different than being you know,
in the position of hunter. And I'm not saying theyd
be the hundred when it comes to the Chiefs, but
you know, there's been a lot of things out there
on the Lion's arrival. So you know, how does how
does Jared Goff look? How does that run game look?
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Does the offensive line play as well as it did
last year? The defense, you know, which was historically bad
through the first half of last year, but really turned
it around down the stretch. They they pick up where
they left off. I just think at this point, like
if the Chiefs don't look great, then you know, you
know whatever, they'll pick it up, They'll figure it out.
I think this is actually a pretty big game for
the Lions coming into the season.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Show her the're at get them On Twitter at. Albert Breers,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio. Before we let you go, we do
want to get your Super Bowl pick, Albert, But I
wanted to ask you, is there a team that you've
heard a lot of people talk, you know, positive about,
expectations are high, feel good about them going into the
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year that you look at them and you go either
you saw them up close and personal in your training
camp tour, but you're just not a believer in this
team being a playoff team that some people are.
Speaker 6 (26:31):
You know, I the one team I'm a little I'd
say I'm a little concerned about. I think it's going
to be important that they get off to the right
kind of start. And I did put them in the
playoffs would be Dallas.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
I think there's.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
A lot of pressure on people in that organization right now.
You know Kellen Moore. I think Callen Moore is a
really good offensive coordinator. So what does it look like
now with Mike McCarthy wearing both hats, there are I
mean it's down to like there are coaches in that
organization who are in a contract year this year that
didn't get extended where I look at it and there's
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a lot of pressure on a lot of people in
that organization or quarterback included, and I just know, like
having covered that team, you know, I was on the
beat down there, oh seven L eight, I've got a
pretty good idea of the way things work down there
is that things can kind of build on themselves there,
you know, and the pressure can kind of take on
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a life of its own. So I just think it's
going to be important for the Cowboys to get out
of the gate strong. And again I picked them to
have to make the playoff. They've got the talent to
get there. Michael Parsons should be a defensive Player of
the Year candidate. I think, see Lamb's gonna have a
huge year. But you know, you look at and I
just they're the one where I look at and say,
there's there's a lot of pressure on a lot of
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people in that organization, and you sort of wonder if
it could take as toll if they get off to
a shaky start.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Did you listen to the show?
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, almost the exact same thing.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
I mean, we we mirror the same sentiments on this. Okay, Yeah,
I just sort of know that you put that I
did not put it the same way.
Speaker 6 (28:18):
The other thing about them guys is I just I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Know, well them boys actually Albert dumb boys.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Yeah, they've got it good. They've got good frontline talent,
right like when you look at like the high end talent,
they got it there.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Okay, Albert, do you believe in Dak? Do you believe
that question?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I mean, I think like if we look at Dak,
if we look at if we look at Dak Brady,
like when things have been right around him, he's been good.
But they don't have the dominant run game anymore. There's
gonna be boring him to you know, win games for
that offense.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Do you believe in him?
Speaker 7 (28:52):
Do you believe in Dak's ability to take them to
take this team to the superos LeVar doesn't.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I believe.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
I believe Dak can be a deck deck the type
of player who I hate to compare him to Kirk Cousins,
but I think that there's like.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
A little bit of us.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
It's a valid comparison.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
No, but I just think it's like one of those
guys like Kirk is great, like when everything's right around him,
you know what I mean? Like I just think Dak
is sort of that type of guy where when like,
I love him as a guy and a competitor and
all that, and I think that shows up when everything's
right around him. I just don't think he can carry
a team when I'm not saying to carry a team
when there's more on him.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
You just said no. But that's cool. How would you ab?
You just said no?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Though?
Speaker 6 (29:35):
All right, I'm trying to be I'm trying. I'm trying
to give you as a political clicker.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Hey, ab, let's end on the high note. How about
the Buckeyes Pat?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
How about them buck?
Speaker 6 (29:44):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Defense?
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Foot awsoin man, it was one hundred and fifty yards
of offense, uh three points allowed in a uh in
a Big ten game on the road. I mean that
wasn't bad. Quarterbacks got a level up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
I'll just I mean, what do you think by your
offensive line play? I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
That's the thing though. That's the thing though, it is
like that those tackles. We gotta we gotta clean that up.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
By uh.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I mean, all I heard, all I kept hearing was like, oh,
like there's no one, no reason, no house they should
be worried about anyone on their schedule. Now, I feel
like you should be worried about everyone on your schedule
after watching that.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh wow, that's a strong take, Brady.
Speaker 7 (30:24):
Really yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
I mean, look, I'll put it this way.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You guys only got a Mechagmuka and Melvin Harrison five
receptions apiece, and I mean two of the best receivers,
top prospects.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I mean, come on.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
And the other thing is is you got to wonder,
especially as the season wears on, if those guys want
to put themselves at risk. You know, the way things
were kind of looking early in that game, it didn't
look like they were too happy about the situation their quarterback.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
You Like, is that what you're saying. No, I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I'm saying like there was a couple of times when
the balls were high and they got like undercut and
and you're kind of watching their body lands you get up.
You're thinking like, yeah, dude, I get it, Like why
do you want.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
To be out of here for this?
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Like you mean like there's some I would say, like
like protecting the investment going on out there.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
Well, yeah, you can make the case that happened a
little bit last year.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Yeah, Yeah, Well, I'm interested to see what happens when
they can open it up a little bit more. I
I like, it didn't seem like they were doing a
ton to free up Marv and a Mecca, you know,
And it just makes me wonder how much they're holding
back and how much movie they didn't want to show
certain things. But you know, again, like I like, I think,
(31:40):
you know, to be able to like and I don't
want to overreact, and I don't want to be I mean, god,
I don't want to get in the crosschairs of Kirk
kurb Streak because he's uh, he's a mayor of buck
Eye Nation. He's he's been, he's been, he's been taking
shots to people in the fan base. I want to
I want to see what happens when they're able to
open it up a little bit more and the quarterback's
(32:00):
able to use the field a little bit more. They're
doing more to free up the receiver by moving them around.
It didn't seem like they did a ton to put
those guys up last week, which I wonder if that's
by design.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Albert, we got about twenty seconds, you got a Super
Bowl pick. Who's coming out of the AFC who's coming
out of the NFC.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I got the Bengals over the Niners. So throwback to
nineteen eighty eight when the result being flipped in Joe
Burrow being the Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
So there you go, Hey, who's the quarterback for the Niners?
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Was that?
Speaker 5 (32:32):
Who's the quarterback? Who's quarterbacking? Though? Who's starting in the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Rock perty Bertie, don't sleep on BCB.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
Okay, there you go.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
All right, Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
Get them on Twitter at at Albert Breer. We appreciate it.
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
All right, thanks, all right.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
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Give me your hell yeah yeah uh.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
At night, I can't sleep a toss some turn. This
is somebody's getting sleeping with my finger on the trigger.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
He stup.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
When your mind is playing tricks on your h Hey, man,
it's a good stuff. Scarfa is one of the greatest
MC's of all time. Man, people should should not sleep
on the scale of Scarface.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
Man.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It is a dope dude. What is his name Scarface?
Cause he's got a scar on.
Speaker 6 (34:31):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I don't know the story of why they call him scarface,
But but Brad is a beat Well. I think he's Brad.
Brad is his name. I think brad Well.
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Speaker 5 (34:56):
Your name is Brad, Yeah, mister mister Ordan.
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Speaker 2 (35:17):
Two pros in a cup of show what you to
know they're in please or they're out?
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Lee to lat what do we got guys? Are you
in or out on Hurricane Lee? I'm out on hurricane.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Would you Why would you be in a hurricane that
could potentially.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
I'm I'm just asking in her out man. I'm in
because the name, damn ran in or out? Are you
and Lee? Are you in a hurricane Lee? I'm in
the name.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
So you're in.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Oh my god, I'm in Lee. So are you in?
Are you in on this? I'm in the name. Yeah,
you're in on the name in the name.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
No, No, I know you're think about the fact that
there could be some people's like houses that are ruined.
Speaker 10 (36:04):
Yeah, that's why I'm saying you should most likely be
out bad person by you, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
But it's gonna miss the island. But you're in on
even you're just in on it being named Lee. I'm
in on it missing and missing. Are you in on
the hurricane being named Lee? I'm in. I'm in the name. Okay, Hey, Rod, I'm.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
In the name.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
We know you're what else besides death people death on anybody? Damn.
But the hurricane was named after me.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
That I'm a lover, Brady, and that's why it's National
Beer Lovers Day. Are you in er out on National
beer Lovers.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
Yeah, of course, yeah, that's not I p Yeah, come on,
who's not there some beer lovers we don't believe in
Servesa beers in on the East Coast. By the way,
if you ask for mo dello or like anything like that,
like they're like we don't have that really, yes, yeah,
(37:07):
it's too bad. It's kind of interesting man, all right, good.
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Yeah, when I am on the East Coast or somewhere,
when I see a survey, so then I'm like, oh sweet.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
That's kind of crazy man, Like what's the other one?
That that they had a Mexican beer in Dublin?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
What's the other one? Pacifico? Like you'll never hear Pacifico
on on the East Coast. He probably shouldn't.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Well you don't. I love Pacific Coast. Yes, and a
frosted mug. Yeah, alright.
Speaker 10 (37:35):
We got a couple of movies coming out this weekend,
My Big Fact Greek Wedding three none.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
Two, A couple of sequels I didn't see one or two.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Ow ow ow out none.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Football baby, Yeah, NFL's back. College football. I am out
of anything other than football.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
But the way, what a what a loser? If you
decide this is the weekend you want to open up
your movie.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
You are a leader with no awareness. I mean, but yeah,
but his name is it?
Speaker 10 (38:00):
Just because I'm giving you the option doesn't mean I'm
in on something that you're out on.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And by the way, let me just say this, if
you go to a movie as opposed to watching NFL
this weekend, you're an idiot and a loser.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
And I don't want to call me.
Speaker 7 (38:12):
He had watching a horse, He had us watching a
horror flick sty with hammers. Yeah, what was running around
about somebody's or baby.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
Out with hammer out
Speaker 4 (38:28):
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