September 11, 2023 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Cowboys embarrass the Giants in a shutout. An unexpected week in the AFC North and the guys take time to remember where they were 22 years ago today on 9/11.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe when LaVar arrings rating win and Jonas knots on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, how the hell are we feel here, LaVar Arrington, good.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Man, I feel good, feel rested, even though it was
a long ass day of travel, a couple of days
of travel. But yeah, I was able to see a
lot of the games that were viewable and was able
to review the others that that I wasn't able to see.
And uh, it was a great weekend of football, man,
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Like it's it's uh, it's one of those deals.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I got a chance to really enjoy college football on Saturday,
got an opportunity to you know, we got up. I
had to pay the price, Jonas and and that's man.
Do we got an I R this week? Because I'll
tell you what we got one, Lee, I got an
I R for you. Car I R too, Tesla's by
the way. But yeah, nonetheless, we've overcome a few things,
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few little snafoos to be able to get on airplane
early enough to make it back to Sunny La to
see the game.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So yeah, it was good man, it's good.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So just imagine total hypothetical. Okay, you're a Giants fan, right, yeah, man,
And just imagine you're a Giants fan coming into this
season and you're thinking to yourself, we were a playoff
team a year ago. We won a playoff game, and
we did it on the road. We've got Daniel Jones
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playing franchise quarterback level football, Saquon Barkley's back. We feel
like this is the year we added Darren Waller. We
feel like we're ready to make that step. All Right,
Everyone says, no, no, no, there's always a team that's
good the year prior and then they struggle the next year.
We're not going to be that team. And we're going
to open up the season and we're going to do
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it against the hated Dallas Cowboys, and we don't care
that it's pouring rain at that stadium in New Jersey
called MetLife. We don't care about any of that stuff.
We're going to make a statement week one on national
team and then you go out and you get stomped out.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So funny to me, it's so funny. Okay, have you
ever been a part of a Week one that look
like that? On that And we'll get to the Cowboys
and the Cowboys defense was fantastic. But have you ever
been a part of a week one loss like that
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in your football career that you can don't recall.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't recall being I recall being on the other
side of a Molly whopping, but I've never been on
this I don't recall. Now that doesn't mean that it
didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't recall a lot of my time in Washington.
So it's possible that I could have gotten, you know,
Molly wopped as possible. I just don't recall.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
How do you recover like that? That was bad?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It's weak one, and it's bad enough.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It was a It was such a shellacking that you
could almost write it off and write it up to
it's the first game of the year, and all we
can do is go up from here, you know, and
that's that Maybe that's maybe that's the frame of mind here,
is that it didn't go the way they would like
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for it to go. Anything that could have gone wrong
seemingly went wrong. You know, Dak Prescott wasn't even a
major factor, and then winning the game. I mean, it
wasn't like he was like this world beating orderback that
came out there and was destroying them. As as advertised,
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Micah Parsons has gotten his uh defensive MVP candidacy uh
off to to an amazing start.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
They they just they you know, they did what they
needed to do in other areas of the of the game.
The the first the first turnover being the field goal.
I mean, it looked like it was going to be
a game like, okay, you know, New York comes out.
They they they came out playing power football. They ran
the ball, say Kuan was effective, and and then they
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they disrupted their their flow with uh, you know, with
a penalty. After the penalty, it just seemed like they
never recovered from the inability to finish that drive. It
just went it just went off the rails from that
field goal that was blocked and returned. It's like, oh
my gosh, I mean, that was that was like, okay,
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we gave you our opening best shot and that turned
out to be a field goal block in a return
for a touchdown. Like that's like okay, Like it was
a little demoralizing, you know, but let's let's let's try
to recover, let's let's move forward, and then boom, you know,
you hit Saquon in the mouth, Saquon coughs it up,
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they pick it up, or they catch it go for
a touchdown. It was like, I don't know. It was
like if I'm a New York Giants fan or a
New York Giants player, or a New York Giants coach,
I'm sitting there like, is this the twilight Zone? It's
got something. There's got to be some type of harsh,
cruel joke that's taking place for us to have everything
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seemingly possibly or possible that could go bad go bad.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's like you're watching them drive down and to
your point, you thought it was going to be a
game because they're moving the ball, they're being somewhat effective.
They line up for that field goal, it gets blocked,
it gets returned, and then the Cowboys missed the extra points.
Are you thinking, Okay, well, right, at least not all
the momentum in the right right, And the next thing,
you know, the first quarters winding down and it's a
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pick six and it's like, wait a second, So we're
down sixteen to nothing, all right, but we're going to
rally back and they just never figured it out, and yeah,
Dak Prescott didn't need to do anything like he would
have had one hundred and forty yards passing.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It was it was pedestrian. He just but you know what,
they didn't sack him. You know, he did not turn
the ball over. So that's that's you know, that's a
good thing. I just it's just weird, man. He didn't
have to do much at all. Now and and listen,
Q's off today, I know, and I'm sure he would
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would probably reiterate the fact that he said he said
that the defense would would carry him, would matter, defense
would carry this Cowboys team, And then seemingly, you know,
that's the start of it, but this is defense.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They carried them.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Just the thought of you know, some guy thinking, you
know what, whether or no weather, we're risking it all.
He just rolls up to MetLife in a Jeff Hostetler
poncho and he thinks this is our year. And they
just get sawed off the way they do. I think
it's hilarious. But yeah, the defense is fantastic. And the
fact that that took place on national TV to open
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up the year and you saw them play the way
they did, that's that's a good spot momentum wise for
that Defensive Player of the Year to go to Stick City.
That's what I feel like. I feel like they're in
a good spot now. And we've talked a lot about
Dak Prescott. Can he get it done? What can they do?
You know, Zeke's gone. It's a brand new era they've got.
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You know, they're they're paying offensive linemen, they're getting people
locked up to long term deals. But yeah, that defense
is tremendous. Dan Quinn's done a phenomenal job, and I
just feel like that's the side of the ball that
a lot of people haven't focused on. They just focused
on can this team win with Dak Prescott? Man, if
they get that, you with anybody almost.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know what's crazy? Osa DIGAZUOI had a game that
was better than Michael Parsons, mikeah Is. Micah definitely set
fire to to showing that he should be in the
conversation early right now for defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
But Digazoo, he had a game better.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
He had one more sack than Micah, he had one
more one more tackle than Micah in the game. But
what I will say is, man, he's a disrupted Like again,
sometimes I'll make points and and you know, we could
get into you know, different types of discussion points and
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debates about you know, if I'm inaccurate or if I'm accurate.
But the one thing about it is is that this
is one of those moments where I can say, Okay,
we can look back on this game and be like
a Statistically, you wouldn't have said that Michael Parsons had
all that great of a day. He had one sack,
he had two tackles, one assists. That's not a crazy
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statistical line, but looking at it in the moment, he
was so disruptive in the game and it doesn't show
in the statistics. But this is one of those like
prime prime examples of God dang bru Like like I
ended a a I was on my hot my honeymoon
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vacation and we were supposed to stay in Turks and
Kekos another week. I told my wife, my new bride,
we are out of here. We're going home. We're cutting
it short, we're gonna get back.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Because there was a mosquito. I think it was one mosquito.
There had to have been a ton of them, but
it didn't matter. It was this one mosquito that I
felt like was attacking me the entire time, followed me
around the whole entire beach.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Heybody over here.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I don't know what it was. But the reason
why I thought it was one one mosquito in particular,
is because the way it sounded when it got to
my ear and it sounded the same, it was like
it was just more valent than any of the other
mosquitos that I had had interaction with, like in my
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entire life. This was, you know, just one nuisance of
a mosquito. The point of that story was and is,
is that Micah Parsons was like that, that very very
aggressive mosquito that was always in your ear.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
You hear.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I'm into the honeymoon early going home, We're out
of here, And that kind of felt like that was
what happened with the New York Giants. They had a
mosquito that would leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But it's but it's true, like I've like I heard
that about Julius Peppers as well too, that Julius Peppers,
if you look at his his numbers were great, obviously,
but it was all the plays that he made for
other people just because you couldn't block him at times.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
And you could say.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And and to that point, want to dig Zoey Sachs
came because everybody, every man, woman able was blocking Micah.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
So yeah, I mean that's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, so it's just an impressive performance defensively special teams.
Dak you know, just did what he had to do.
But man, oh man, that was the game and everything's fine.
To your point on mosquitos, I got destroyed this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's all like they're flying pipe bombs. That's what That's
what I've learned, flying pipe bombs who just ruined people's
weekends and apparently their honeymoons as well too.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, man's awful.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Imagine that you're in like a topian type of place
and it was just it was amazing and it was ruined.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, like what brutal.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You're not supposed to be able to adjust the the
sound of how you're flying around, Like just be a
normal mosquito man, Like, don't be like turbocharged man that
that mosquito was fighting through like sheer. You know, they
had to like little share cover curtain over your bed
so you can lie and comfort and know that you're
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not going to get chewed up. And wake up with like,
you know, big old whelps on your body and stuff
like that, or worse, wake up with some type of
a you know, allergic reaction. Nah, not this mosquito. This
mosquito wasn't playing that man. That mosquito was coming through.
What no curtain going to keep you out? No, nothing
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like it's coming through. And it was just there like,
all right, we left the room, I'm sitting on the
on the on the outside patio there, go to the
beach there like there's no way they can all be
super charge hopped up like this. So I just struck
out to the fact that this was one mosquito that
had it in for me, like it was it was
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going to ride and die with with going out with
with just harassing and biting me the entire time.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, listen, that mosquito's got a got a football player
who's did a hell of a job last night. Yes
he did, remembering ruining your honeymoon.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
Hey, how about those Cleveland Browns? Huh getting it done?
You know, just continuing on one of the more underreported
dominant starts to a career, or anybody has been the
dominant start for the Cleveland Browns against Joe Burrow for
his career. Joe Burrow now one in five against the
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Cleveland Browns in his career.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Into they went into Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I know, well it was it was in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
My bad, My bad, My bad, my bet. Here's the thing.
That defense was they I mean they were stifling. Man,
I don't know if it was. I just I asked myself,
was it that their defense was that good?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Or was it? Was it an off day for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, they seem like they It made me rethink
the AFC North. I'll say that along with what happened
in Pittsburgh, you know, or with Pittsburgh, I'll say it
made me start to rethink the North as to what
could possibly happen, is if they could be that dominant
against Cincinnati and Deshaun Watson, you know, he looked alright,
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like he looked confident, He looked he looked relaxed.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He looked, he looked happy.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I was just it just it's just little things that
make you laugh when you know that always make you
think when you reference him right certain words anyway, But
on a serious, more serious note, it looked like Cleveland
had balance. You know, they had balance in the run game,
they had balance in the passing game. They had balance
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on defense. I mean they were harassing. They were harasshing
Joe Burrow. I mean, not one hit that they had
on him.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That looked like out of a like an Oliver Stone
or what is it. Oliver Stone, the dude that that
you know directed Any Given Sunday and and and other show.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I think he did the program.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Did Oliver Stone do any Given Sunday?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Is he the director of Any Given?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I could be wrong, Leah, you are a Hollywood insider.
Oliver Stone directed Any Given Sunday?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah? Oh yeah he did? Oh I got it right?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
All right?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, So there you go, Like the type of hits
you see in his movies.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
What's playing out.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
In that game where the eyeball was on the field.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean, I am I lying?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like the way you gotta hit It was like, how
does a human body hit another human body, and the body.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Does that, It's like, dang, like I hit dudes really hard.
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I never saw somebody's body do with that one. That
one play where Joe Burrow got hit. What his body did,
it almost looked like you wanted to see a flag
because you almost just felt like, that's when I see
a flag.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So the numbers on Joe Burrow fourteen to thirty one,
eighty two yards, no touchdowns, no picks, just an awful,
awful day. Now everybody's gonna say, well, he was benched
later in that game, dude, the game was over, and
it's at that point he's coming off a calf injury.
It did appear that there was at least a little
bit of rust going on there. But also Cleveland kind
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of owns him. This has been the story of his
career thus far. Against the grounds just is what it is.
But Joe Burrow afterwards trying to calm everybody down, tell
everybody to just relax a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
In Cincinnati, it's one week obviously not up to our standard,
not up to my standard, but uh yeah, sixteen more
of them, so we're it's gonna keep chrucking. You know,
stuff like this happens. We've been here before. We're gonna
come back stronger.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
We're gonna have a.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Good week of practice, get better this week, come back
next Sunday, hopefully get a win. Nobody's nobody's panicking here, guys.
It's one week. One doesn't define anybody's season. Obviously not
very good out there, but anybody that watched saw that.
But we've been in this spot before, We've come back
stronger and had great years. So that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, Wow, you do whatever you want to hold
them more next week? Yeah, you had the Ravens next week,
and obviously he's Eddie Garcia mentioned JK. Dobbins the Achilles issue.
So Baltimore it was a little banged up in there,
win over the Houston Texans. But man Zay Flowers looks
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He does.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I mean that looks like a guy and look not
too a fanboy out for him, but I'll give credit
where credit is due. Brady Quinn has been calling that
with Jay Flowers. He's been high on Za Flowers for
quite some time now. Lamar Jackson looks like he's got
another weapon to go along with Mark andrews Odell Beckham
Junior wasn't much of a factory. Had a couple of grabs,
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but you know, drew a PI penalty I think late
in that game. So Baltimore seems like they might have
a little something going. So all of a sudden, if
you're Cincinnati and you lose that game, I mean, now
you're sitting here Owen too, and you're looking around the
division going all right, well, this may be a little
bit more difficult than I think anybody thought. And then look,
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you know, we can get into the San Francisco side
of things when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. But
what the f was that with the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday?
Jesus man, what.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I don't know, Man, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm trying to put keep my my professional hat on
in this moment because my fan, the fan in me,
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't understand what happened Alacking, I mean I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It was like rock Party was never injured, never missed
any time.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Not only was he not injured and never missed any
time or anything else that you're going to say, he
looked like.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
An elite franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And the Steelers just looked rattled early and never recovered.
There was just no like and you know, you're you're
listening to the crowd react, and like I thought, in
that game, Pittsburgh was in a good spot. You're getting
a team to go on the road and they've got
to travel all that way. It's an early kickoff, and
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you know, just.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
They they well, they put a they loaded up on
their plane. Whip ass like, hey, they packed it up,
they put it under the plane, They shipped it, you know,
with them. They they carried it across border from border
to border on their way to the East coast, and
they landed in Pittsburgh and they unpacked it and and
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they delivered it to.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Hind Oh whoa, whoa. The new name of the field
that the Steelers play it?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
What is it? Is it acupunt? What is it acupuncture
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I don't know, aqu something anyway, A sure get at
least I have to do it. And then you got it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It's agure a for sure. Yeah, well after.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This they got well they need some therapy after that game,
that's for sure, because that I don't you know, they
managed to muster one touchdown in the second quarter, and
they were blanked the rest of the way. And they
were blanked on offense and they were blanked on defense.
It was it was such a lopsided game. It was
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so lopsided. I mean, they they just looked like they
were just it looked like they were playing a college team.
It looked like a pro team versus a college team.
That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
To Yeah, not not good on any level for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. And you know, I was assuming, like, in fact,
do you want to do you want to hear how
bad it was for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So my first
thought was, man, oh man, Mike Tomlin is going to
have some things to say after the game, Like that
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was as ugly as it gets for Mike Tomlin in
his career as coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's going
to have some things to say at the game. Listen this,
it sounds like Mike Tomlin almost doesn't know what to
say because he was shocked at what happened at home
against the Niners.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
We got kicked in the teeth today in a lot
of ways. It was a failure on our party. In
all areas. You know, we got to coach better, we
got to play better. We talked about a lot of
the things and worked on a lot of the things
that unfolded in the ways that we didn't want them to.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And so we go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It just looks like it sounds like he doesn't I
don't know what to do. Yeah, we just uh there's
he like, no animation, no, get fired up.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean he probably let the team have it a
little bit. But I can't that I did not see
that happening.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's a somber day. I won't say it didn't sound
like he didn't know what to do. It just sounded
like what he said, like they they kicked them in
the teeth, they got bullied it, bro, it wasn't even close.
It just looked like they outclassed them so bad. They
out they physical them, they outplayed them, they out coached them,
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they out everything. It just seemed like everything was so easy.
It was just easy and and and it just looked
like they were having so much fun. I mean, your
Boyfred Warner set a tone. Hit running back. I don't
even know if that was naj he hit somebody in
the mouth early in the game, I was like, yep,
they set the tone. They are loaded by the way,
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like I said, San Francisco in my mind was like, yeah,
this is going to be a really good team this year.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I wasn't sure.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
My biggest question has been where, you know, will they
be as good at the quarterback position. I don't know
how brock Purdy turned into what he is so early
and so quickly and nobody knowing. Maybe it just shows that,
you know, for all the people that think they know
what they're talking about, a lot of times they don't.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I don't really know what the answer to that is.
How is he so good? But he's that good?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So good?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Because I think that you mentioned you said something a
little bit ago that that I'm fascinated to see where
where your head's at with this. All right, So you
obviously grew up in Pennsylvania Steelers fan.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I grew up in Pittsburgh four one two. My address
was Pittsburgh thirty three and draft Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You grew up. You're going to give that out of
the air. Yeah, I mean, while we're at it, if
you want to do your social Security number, screw it.
But so you you grew up there watching AFC Central football,
AFC North football. That's it. So you said that you
are now re evaluating the AFC North.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yes, So what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
What are we looking at now after one of the week.
And by the way, for anybody to oh, it's just
one week, all right, so we'll change our opinions next week.
What are we do? What are the setting stone? Kiss
our ass? We can do.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It literally, not set in stone, because I'm sitting there
rethinking it right now.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So how are we re evaluating the AFC North?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now that you've gotten to see the first full weekend.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And the I think the AFC North is wide open.
I think you got to say it's wide open. The
Baltimore Ravens was I mean, while it may the score
may say it was an impressive outing, it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
It wasn't. It could be, it could be hidden.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't I didn't, you know, I didn't think that
it was like this amazing day for a team that
they should have beat. You know, they should have beat
the Texans. I don't know what I feel about Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So I'll ask you this, do you believe that the
Steelers have the worst starting quarterback in the division.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I mean, if you if you got to look at
it from I mean think about it. I mean, Deshaun Watson,
Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson. So I don't feel like that's
a hard question to answer it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And so like my point is in what and now
the we've seen it a weekend because man, even Albert
Breer was on the air, Remember Albert Breer told us
man Kenny Pickett and George Pickett.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Could be be like a.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Top five quarterback like something.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
It could be a top five So and I know it's.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The Niners and they're one of the better teams in
the league, but they're loaded. Yeah, like one weekend, Like
it does feel like that.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You're not supposed to get hammered like that, though.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, Like if you're a team that's on the up,
like you're hitting in a in a direction of being
a dominant team and a top five quarterback type of
player you're you're you probably shouldn't get dominated like that
on your own home field.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, that's I mean, that was.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I mean, I just so, I don't know, you know,
they ran through their defense like like something going through
your bows, very loosely.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It was not. It just wasn't pretty, man, It wasn't pretty.
It just seemed like the forty nine ers were toying
with them.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
More concern lost Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Okay, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I would say more concerning is a divisional opponent for one,
and for two, the way they lost, Like it wasn't
like they just lost. They were getting thumped by Cleveland.
Like there were moments in time where you were like, okay,
like dang, Like we talked about what Michael Parsons did
(27:27):
a little earlier. I mean your boy, Miles Garrett. Miles
Garrett not only was getting blocked by everybody on the
line like Michael was, but.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
He splits them, yeah and still gets a sack.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He's a monster.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Dude is a bull, and he is an athletic one.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And then the ad Zadarius Smith.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know, you ever noticed that a defense always seems
to improve the moment. Zadarias Smith is that on that
d line, Like it's just like they get better. Uh,
he has that get better impact wherever he goes. It
seems seems as though he's having that same impact on Cleveland.
But Cleveland's defense was they were playing, they were playing some.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Ball, and it also look, I mean, the bright spot
for the Steelers is, well, at least you're not gonna
have to see the Niners again because you ain't going
to a super Bowl. So like there's that. But for
the for the Bengals, this is I mean, this is now.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
A thing to see Cleveland again.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, you got to see him again again, and you
got manhandled like that.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So and then you go into another divisional game and
and it's early, so that just seems like it puts
a little bit of pressure on the scenario where you
can't really kind of ease your way in. It's like bam,
two divisional games back to back, like boom boom, Like
let's get it in. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like that, that isn't what it is for for for
(28:51):
the Ravens, that isn't what it is for, uh, for
the Steelers, you know what I mean. So it's kind
of interesting that that the Bengals would come out and
have two divisional games back to back. Then you let
one get away from you in the first the first uh,
the first one, and now the question has to be
on your way back into you know this second game.
(29:14):
You know, do you really want to get two games
down so early and so quickly in the season. You know,
that just seems a little I don't know, that seems
to me like that's just a tad bit rough Now.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
They I believe they do. They do get them at home.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, and and there Look, according to DraftKings are three
point favorite. But you lose that one. Now not only
are you owing to, but you're owing to in the division.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's that's correct, That's that's a problem. Yeah, and that's pressure. Yeah,
you know I could see if you're like again you
asked the question. Here's the point. The original question is
which one is the worst loss? It's it's I would
assume it has to be the Bengals because of what
it sets up for, Like, you don't want to get
to o and two, so you almost and I don't
(30:02):
want to say it's a must win for them to
beat Baltimore, but you don't want to be going too
in the a f C North. You don't want to
be owing to in the a f C. If you're
a team that you're you're talking about trying to keep
pace to be you know, the one seed, and that
that that conference. But with that being said, I mean
Kansas City took it on the chin. It wasn't divisional,
(30:24):
but they took it on the chin. Nonetheless, there's there's
a few teams that, you know, you could look at
and say, you know that, you know, San Diego, I mean,
excuse me, La took it on the chins.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah whatever, See, yes, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It doesn't even matter after that. Yeah, I don't know.
Miami played a Hell of Five, which, by the way,
you got Miami like they looked really good.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah.
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
So I did see this stat that was thrown out there,
and we talked and open up the show with the
Dallas Cowboys win over the New York Giants and just
how bad the Giants looked to open up the season.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, you get blanked.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, but you did all.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That hard work off season workouts, you know, work out together,
team organized, you know stuff, training camp and you get
shut out in.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
The first game.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, that's pretty rough.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And you give forty points.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So basically they haven't scored a point in months. But
you know, at least Daniel Jones got paid, so at
least at least there's that. But this according to Opta Stats.
All right, so Opta stats put this out, Okay, that
the Giants last night lost the game forty to nothing,
(32:26):
lost the sack battle seven to nothing, lost the turnover
battle three to nothing, had a field goal blocked and
returned for a touchdown, and threw a pick six, and
it Opta Stats went on to say, no other team
in NFL history has had all five happen in the
(32:47):
same season the Giants had happened in the same game.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I mean, with that being said, then there's some hope
and the chances that happened and then again are like.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
God, what a bag of crap they rolled.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I mean it was Sunday night, man, like it was
the game like that. I was waiting on that game.
I'm like, man, come on, we know truck nuts and
you know all the stuff, and there's the other and you.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Were right though you call it. You said, I'm not
high on them.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I mean I didn't see that though.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well you couldn't have seen it that. I couldn't have seen. No,
you could have seen it come that way.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So that is the So, yeah, that's the historical performance
by the New York Giants to open up the year. So,
you know, fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
How much pressure does that put on the Jets for tonight?
Maybe no pressure at all. I mean it's like, if
we were to lose, just don't lose as bad as
our neighbors did.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, right, like, just just lose.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And obviously with it being nine to eleven, you know,
this is you know, there's there's a lot of you know,
our thoughts are obviously with the families and everybody remembers. Man,
I can't believe it's been twenty two years.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Man, I was in the thick of that, bro I
got man, I always have a wild like. But I
had just came back from New York from the US Open,
you know, and I had people that I was tight
with back then that were flying out from the US
(34:26):
Open and almost could have possibly Like when it first happened,
I wasn't sure that loved Ones wasn't on you know
the jet, Yeah, that was going out because of where
it was heading towards. So I was in the and
I lived in DC, so bro when when that popped off,
(34:48):
you could hear it, Like I lived like forty five
minutes away from the Pentagon, and so you could hear
the fighter jets in the air and everything that was
going on. Man, it was. It was a tense moment
in time. You know what that felt like. You felt
so violated, and just to be at the epicenter of it,
(35:12):
you know, at one of the locations, it was just
it was it was surreal.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Jonas the second year in the league, right.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
What nine?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
What year it was two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The second year, second year, I can recall driving, like
roads that used to be kind of open and and
you know, accessible to the public weren't. If you drove
by the Pentagon, there were a ton of humvies manned,
not just sitting there, they were manned. So the guys
(35:49):
are on the humby, are are on there, on the
on the weapon. They're standing there holding the weapon while
you're driving by. So essentially, the moment that you drive
by and you see that's going on, you're.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Like, we're in a war zone.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, it's And it's like, if you're an American, you
ask yourself, how many times in your life can you
say you are honestly driving and knew you were in
a war zone, like military war zone. I ain't talking
like somebody heard me say that, and there's like, hey, bruh,
don't forget where.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
You came from. I ain't forgot where I came from.
I know what a war zone looks like.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I'm talking about a military war zone, though a military
like that was pretty wild, bro.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
It just there was a I just remember there was
this eerie, somber tone, like it was palpable. You could
feel it in the air bag, and look, you know,
we're in California and nowhere close to the World Trade Center,
and nowhere close to New York where it happened.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
But there was just the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon too.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It just just like there was just this weird because
I remember I was I was working at TGI Fridays,
like I remember, I was a busboy at TGI Fridays
at the time, and I just remember people sitting there
and you would think, oh, are people, you know, going
out and drinking Like nobody could really It just people
were sitting at the bar just kind of nursing their drinks,
(37:23):
just confused, and everybody just went home early. There was
just no there was nobody was.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
In the mood.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I remember seeing the one shot that still freaks me out.
I remember where I was in the restaurant when the
video first came available on the news. It was on
every single channel. It was where there was the ground
shot where the person filmed there took their phone or
their camera whatever they had back then, and you could
see underneath as the plane was going into the side
(37:50):
of the building, like underneath the I just remember watching
that going this is this is history, and we're going
to remember where we were in this moment. You know,
my mom would always tell me about, you know, where
she was when JFK was assassinated, And my dad would
tell me these moments in his life, like where he
was at that moment when this happened. And that was
(38:12):
the first one that I just remember thinking, years from now,
I'll tell my kids and I'll tell my grandkids possibly
where I was and just how sad. That was one
of the stories that I remember hearing that just for
some reason it always got to me was they were
(38:32):
doing a documentary about it. I think it might have
been on NFL Network or something like that, where they
talked about because that season, you guys, basically all those
games are scrapped and then you placed that one as
the final game of the season, right. I think that's
why they did it, to where all the games that
week were then they were postponed and then played at
the end of the year. And I remember somebody saying
(38:55):
that one of the saddest sites they saw was that
they looked and you saw all of these cars that
were parked at the airport still that were probably people.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
That never going to go. It.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Just that's wild, man.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah, I didn't even think about it. That way.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, and just so you know, obviously, you know, you
know that's going to be a big storyline, as it
should be, and they're gonna, you know, celebrate you know,
the lives lost and a lot of tributes out there.
But that was one of the one of those moments
where there was just this feeling, this buzz in the
air that you just looked around and it just you
(39:32):
didn't know what to do, you know, just and there's
been moments like that, but not to that extent during
the course of our lives. So you know, obviously you
know thoughts with everybody affected by it, and you know,
even all these years later, twenty two years, cannot believe well.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I mean, there will never be enough years that get
you far enough apart from the you know, the pain
and disappointment and just you know, everything that that you
felt and and and again, like you said, that's that
that was a legacy. That was a legacy tragedy, meaning
(40:09):
that you know, husbands and wives and uncles and brothers
and sisters and sons and daughters and grandchildren and then
great grandchildren like they will forever be connected to that experience.
And you know, it's it's sometimes you know, we we
we had these conversations, and our country has become one
(40:32):
of those countries with social media that has really really
kind of become very toxic towards you know, reality and
knowing that the realities that exist for us are very
different in a lot of a lot of other places.
And and when you get into the conversations that are
(40:53):
connected to things like this that take place, it hopefully
kind of puts things back in its proper perspective. You know,
when people talk about home of the Brave, you know,
in the Land of the Free, or people give credit
to our military for protecting our freedoms and different things
like that. Most of us will never see, as I mentioned,
(41:14):
what a war zone looks like.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
You won't see it.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
You won't you won't experience what it's like to know
that a missile attack is about to take place, or
you know, go getting bunkers because of what what may
happen next. We don't, we don't live in that reality
in America, and I think I think we take it
for granted sometimes and I think that the idea of
(41:41):
it is it's just very foreign Jonas. And so when
you think about what that time created, I never in
my life experienced more love and care and consideration for
a fellow American than we did when that happened.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah, people came together.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It wasn't about all of this bull junk that's going
on now and how people hate each other and talk
so crazy to one another.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
And do all of these wild things.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
It was like, for a moment in time, that tragedy
actually united our country.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
There was no Republican versus Democrat. No like if you
had a rival sports team, None of that mattered, Like
it didn't, you know, there was no none of that.
Just it was different. Everyone all of a sudden had
better perspective in that moment and just looked at it
and said, yeah, this is a different this is a
different situation, and this is a real tragedy. And some
(42:43):
of the stuff that we thought were important or we
thought were big deals pale in comparison and are really nothing.
It's all trivial in comparison to this.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, it was a bittersweet moment because the bitterness of it.
Obviously you don't want to feel like you've been taking
advantage of the way that things happen. But then the
other side of it is is that we came together.
We came together in a way where you know, I
don't know that I've ever in my life experienced that
(43:14):
much togetherness in terms of people holding one another, crying
with one another, you know, supporting one another. Didn't care
if you were white, black, you know, anything like that.
Nothing mattered other than we were being here for one another.
I mean, I I think I cried every single national
(43:36):
anthem the rest of the way after that. Just couldn't
fight back the tears, and Niam, I'm getting emotional right now.
Couldn't fathom. You know, these are the things my father
lost his legs for, you know, fighting for our freedoms
and putting it on the line every single day so
(43:56):
that we can walk around and be the way that
we are, whether for good or for bad. We have
that right protected by by our military, by our our
support and our staff that protects us from all of
these these dangers. And so for it to become a
(44:17):
reality that it could actually touch down and hit and
and impact our lives the way that it did, it
was a wake up call. Seems like we need a
wake up call now. It's kind of interesting nine to
eleven being today, but it seems like we forget sometimes,
you know, the things that we really should be concerned about.
(44:39):
We should be concerned about being the best country that
we can be, being together as much as we possibly
can be, not being so separate, not being so advisarial
and confrontational towards one another.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
We should be together. We should be uh. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
We can have our differences, and we can have our disagreements,
but in the end, you're an American and I'm an American,
and that's what should matter, not my color, not anything else,
just not how much money I make, whatever it may be.
It should just be your American and I'm American. And
that common threat, not common bond, is the common threat
(45:15):
and common bond that links us together forever, and we
should protect that. And I think that that's what September
eleventh should always represent to us and our history moving
forward and in time, is that you should never forget
that we are all linked together, and holding that dear
(45:36):
and protecting that is something that you should actually be
willing to die for.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, well said
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe when LaVar arrings rating win and Jonas knots on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, how the hell are we feel here, LaVar Arrington, good.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Man, I feel good, feel rested, even though it was
a long ass day of travel, a couple of days
of travel. But yeah, I was able to see a
lot of the games that were viewable and was able
to review the others that that I wasn't able to see.
And uh, it was a great weekend of football, man,
(00:38):
Like it's it's uh, it's one of those deals.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
You know.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I got a chance to really enjoy college football on Saturday,
got an opportunity to you know, we got up. I
had to pay the price, Jonas and and that's man.
Do we got an I R this week? Because I'll
tell you what we got one, Lee, I got an
I R for you. Car I R too, Tesla's by
the way. But yeah, nonetheless, we've overcome a few things,
(01:04):
few little snafoos to be able to get on airplane
early enough to make it back to Sunny La to
see the game.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So yeah, it was good man, it's good.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
So just imagine total hypothetical. Okay, you're a Giants fan, right, yeah, man,
And just imagine you're a Giants fan coming into this
season and you're thinking to yourself, we were a playoff
team a year ago. We won a playoff game, and
we did it on the road. We've got Daniel Jones
(01:37):
playing franchise quarterback level football, Saquon Barkley's back. We feel
like this is the year we added Darren Waller. We
feel like we're ready to make that step. All Right,
Everyone says, no, no, no, there's always a team that's
good the year prior and then they struggle the next year.
We're not going to be that team. And we're going
to open up the season and we're going to do
(01:59):
it against the hated Dallas Cowboys, and we don't care
that it's pouring rain at that stadium in New Jersey
called MetLife. We don't care about any of that stuff.
We're going to make a statement week one on national
team and then you go out and you get stomped out.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
So funny to me, it's so funny. Okay, have you
ever been a part of a Week one that look
like that? On that And we'll get to the Cowboys
and the Cowboys defense was fantastic. But have you ever
been a part of a week one loss like that
(02:45):
in your football career that you can don't recall.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't recall being I recall being on the other
side of a Molly whopping, but I've never been on
this I don't recall. Now that doesn't mean that it
didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I just don't.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I don't recall a lot of my time in Washington.
So it's possible that I could have gotten, you know,
Molly wopped as possible. I just don't recall.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
How do you recover like that? That was bad?
Speaker 4 (03:17):
It's weak one, and it's bad enough.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It was a It was such a shellacking that you
could almost write it off and write it up to
it's the first game of the year, and all we
can do is go up from here, you know, and
that's that Maybe that's maybe that's the frame of mind here,
is that it didn't go the way they would like
(03:43):
for it to go. Anything that could have gone wrong
seemingly went wrong. You know, Dak Prescott wasn't even a
major factor, and then winning the game. I mean, it
wasn't like he was like this world beating orderback that
came out there and was destroying them. As as advertised,
(04:05):
Micah Parsons has gotten his uh defensive MVP candidacy uh
off to to an amazing start.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
They they just they you know, they did what they
needed to do in other areas of the of the game.
The the first the first turnover being the field goal.
I mean, it looked like it was going to be
a game like, okay, you know, New York comes out.
They they they came out playing power football. They ran
the ball, say Kuan was effective, and and then they
(04:40):
they disrupted their their flow with uh, you know, with
a penalty. After the penalty, it just seemed like they
never recovered from the inability to finish that drive. It
just went it just went off the rails from that
field goal that was blocked and returned. It's like, oh
my gosh, I mean, that was that was like, okay,
(05:03):
we gave you our opening best shot and that turned
out to be a field goal block in a return
for a touchdown. Like that's like okay, Like it was
a little demoralizing, you know, but let's let's let's try
to recover, let's let's move forward, and then boom, you know,
you hit Saquon in the mouth, Saquon coughs it up,
(05:25):
they pick it up, or they catch it go for
a touchdown. It was like, I don't know. It was
like if I'm a New York Giants fan or a
New York Giants player, or a New York Giants coach,
I'm sitting there like, is this the twilight Zone? It's
got something. There's got to be some type of harsh,
cruel joke that's taking place for us to have everything
(05:46):
seemingly possibly or possible that could go bad go bad.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's like you're watching them drive down and to
your point, you thought it was going to be a
game because they're moving the ball, they're being somewhat effective.
They line up for that field goal, it gets blocked,
it gets returned, and then the Cowboys missed the extra points.
Are you thinking, Okay, well, right, at least not all
the momentum in the right right, And the next thing,
you know, the first quarters winding down and it's a
(06:14):
pick six and it's like, wait a second, So we're
down sixteen to nothing, all right, but we're going to
rally back and they just never figured it out, and yeah,
Dak Prescott didn't need to do anything like he would
have had one hundred and forty yards passing.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It was it was pedestrian. He just but you know what,
they didn't sack him. You know, he did not turn
the ball over. So that's that's you know, that's a
good thing. I just it's just weird, man. He didn't
have to do much at all. Now and and listen,
Q's off today, I know, and I'm sure he would
(06:50):
would probably reiterate the fact that he said he said
that the defense would would carry him, would matter, defense
would carry this Cowboys team, And then seemingly, you know,
that's the start of it, but this is defense.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They carried them.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Just the thought of you know, some guy thinking, you
know what, whether or no weather, we're risking it all.
He just rolls up to MetLife in a Jeff Hostetler
poncho and he thinks this is our year. And they
just get sawed off the way they do. I think
it's hilarious. But yeah, the defense is fantastic. And the
fact that that took place on national TV to open
(07:27):
up the year and you saw them play the way
they did, that's that's a good spot momentum wise for
that Defensive Player of the Year to go to Stick City.
That's what I feel like. I feel like they're in
a good spot now. And we've talked a lot about
Dak Prescott. Can he get it done? What can they do?
You know, Zeke's gone. It's a brand new era they've got.
(07:48):
You know, they're they're paying offensive linemen, they're getting people
locked up to long term deals. But yeah, that defense
is tremendous. Dan Quinn's done a phenomenal job, and I
just feel like that's the side of the ball that
a lot of people haven't focused on. They just focused
on can this team win with Dak Prescott? Man, if
they get that, you with anybody almost.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
You know what's crazy? Osa DIGAZUOI had a game that
was better than Michael Parsons, mikeah Is. Micah definitely set
fire to to showing that he should be in the
conversation early right now for defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
But Digazoo, he had a game better.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
He had one more sack than Micah, he had one
more one more tackle than Micah in the game. But
what I will say is, man, he's a disrupted Like again,
sometimes I'll make points and and you know, we could
get into you know, different types of discussion points and
(08:50):
debates about you know, if I'm inaccurate or if I'm accurate.
But the one thing about it is is that this
is one of those moments where I can say, Okay,
we can look back on this game and be like
a Statistically, you wouldn't have said that Michael Parsons had
all that great of a day. He had one sack,
he had two tackles, one assists. That's not a crazy
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statistical line, but looking at it in the moment, he
was so disruptive in the game and it doesn't show
in the statistics. But this is one of those like
prime prime examples of God dang bru Like like I
ended a a I was on my hot my honeymoon
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vacation and we were supposed to stay in Turks and
Kekos another week. I told my wife, my new bride,
we are out of here. We're going home. We're cutting
it short, we're gonna get back.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
And it was.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Because there was a mosquito. I think it was one mosquito.
There had to have been a ton of them, but
it didn't matter. It was this one mosquito that I
felt like was attacking me the entire time, followed me
around the whole entire beach.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Heybody over here.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I don't know what it was. But the reason
why I thought it was one one mosquito in particular,
is because the way it sounded when it got to
my ear and it sounded the same, it was like
it was just more valent than any of the other
mosquitos that I had had interaction with, like in my
(10:28):
entire life. This was, you know, just one nuisance of
a mosquito. The point of that story was and is,
is that Micah Parsons was like that, that very very
aggressive mosquito that was always in your ear.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
You hear.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And I'm into the honeymoon early going home, We're out
of here, And that kind of felt like that was
what happened with the New York Giants. They had a
mosquito that would leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
But it's but it's true, like I've like I heard
that about Julius Peppers as well too, that Julius Peppers,
if you look at his his numbers were great, obviously,
but it was all the plays that he made for
other people just because you couldn't block him at times.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
And you could say.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And and to that point, want to dig Zoey Sachs
came because everybody, every man, woman able was blocking Micah.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
So yeah, I mean that's a good point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, so it's just an impressive performance defensively special teams.
Dak you know, just did what he had to do.
But man, oh man, that was the game and everything's fine.
To your point on mosquitos, I got destroyed this weekend.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Everywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's all like they're flying pipe bombs. That's what That's
what I've learned, flying pipe bombs who just ruined people's
weekends and apparently their honeymoons as well too.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Yeah, man's awful.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Imagine that you're in like a topian type of place
and it was just it was amazing and it was ruined.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Yeah, like what brutal.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You're not supposed to be able to adjust the the
sound of how you're flying around, Like just be a
normal mosquito man, Like, don't be like turbocharged man that
that mosquito was fighting through like sheer. You know, they
had to like little share cover curtain over your bed
so you can lie and comfort and know that you're
(12:34):
not going to get chewed up. And wake up with like,
you know, big old whelps on your body and stuff
like that, or worse, wake up with some type of
a you know, allergic reaction. Nah, not this mosquito. This
mosquito wasn't playing that man. That mosquito was coming through.
What no curtain going to keep you out? No, nothing
(12:55):
like it's coming through. And it was just there like,
all right, we left the room, I'm sitting on the
on the on the outside patio there, go to the
beach there like there's no way they can all be
super charge hopped up like this. So I just struck
out to the fact that this was one mosquito that
had it in for me, like it was it was
(13:16):
going to ride and die with with going out with
with just harassing and biting me the entire time.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, listen, that mosquito's got a got a football player
who's did a hell of a job last night. Yes
he did, remembering ruining your honeymoon.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
So there's that.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
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Speaker 2 (13:48):
Hey, how about those Cleveland Browns? Huh getting it done?
You know, just continuing on one of the more underreported
dominant starts to a career, or anybody has been the
dominant start for the Cleveland Browns against Joe Burrow for
his career. Joe Burrow now one in five against the
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Cleveland Browns in his career.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Into they went into Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I know, well it was it was in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
My bad, My bad, My bad, my bet. Here's the thing.
That defense was they I mean they were stifling. Man,
I don't know if it was. I just I asked myself,
was it that their defense was that good?
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Or was it? Was it an off day for the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I mean, they seem like they It made me rethink
the AFC North. I'll say that along with what happened
in Pittsburgh, you know, or with Pittsburgh, I'll say it
made me start to rethink the North as to what
could possibly happen, is if they could be that dominant
against Cincinnati and Deshaun Watson, you know, he looked alright,
(15:02):
like he looked confident, He looked he looked relaxed.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
He looked, he looked happy.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I was just it just it's just little things that
make you laugh when you know that always make you
think when you reference him right certain words anyway, But
on a serious, more serious note, it looked like Cleveland
had balance. You know, they had balance in the run game,
they had balance in the passing game. They had balance
(15:32):
on defense. I mean they were harassing. They were harasshing
Joe Burrow. I mean, not one hit that they had
on him.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That looked like out of a like an Oliver Stone
or what is it. Oliver Stone, the dude that that
you know directed Any Given Sunday and and and other show.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
I think he did the program.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Did Oliver Stone do any Given Sunday?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Is he the director of Any Given?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I could be wrong, Leah, you are a Hollywood insider.
Oliver Stone directed Any Given Sunday?
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Yeah? Oh yeah he did? Oh I got it right?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
All right?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Okay, So there you go, Like the type of hits
you see in his movies.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
What's playing out.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
In that game where the eyeball was on the field.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean, I am I lying?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like the way you gotta hit It was like, how
does a human body hit another human body, and the body.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Does that, It's like, dang, like I hit dudes really hard.
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I never saw somebody's body do with that one. That
one play where Joe Burrow got hit. What his body did,
it almost looked like you wanted to see a flag
because you almost just felt like, that's when I see
a flag.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
So the numbers on Joe Burrow fourteen to thirty one,
eighty two yards, no touchdowns, no picks, just an awful,
awful day. Now everybody's gonna say, well, he was benched
later in that game, dude, the game was over, and
it's at that point he's coming off a calf injury.
It did appear that there was at least a little
bit of rust going on there. But also Cleveland kind
(17:06):
of owns him. This has been the story of his
career thus far. Against the grounds just is what it is.
But Joe Burrow afterwards trying to calm everybody down, tell
everybody to just relax a little bit.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
In Cincinnati, it's one week obviously not up to our standard,
not up to my standard, but uh yeah, sixteen more
of them, so we're it's gonna keep chrucking. You know,
stuff like this happens. We've been here before. We're gonna
come back stronger.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
We're gonna have a.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Good week of practice, get better this week, come back
next Sunday, hopefully get a win. Nobody's nobody's panicking here, guys.
It's one week. One doesn't define anybody's season. Obviously not
very good out there, but anybody that watched saw that.
But we've been in this spot before, We've come back
stronger and had great years. So that's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
All right, Wow, you do whatever you want to hold
them more next week? Yeah, you had the Ravens next week,
and obviously he's Eddie Garcia mentioned JK. Dobbins the Achilles issue.
So Baltimore it was a little banged up in there,
win over the Houston Texans. But man Zay Flowers looks
pretty good.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
He does.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I mean that looks like a guy and look not
too a fanboy out for him, but I'll give credit
where credit is due. Brady Quinn has been calling that
with Jay Flowers. He's been high on Za Flowers for
quite some time now. Lamar Jackson looks like he's got
another weapon to go along with Mark andrews Odell Beckham
Junior wasn't much of a factory. Had a couple of grabs,
(18:37):
but you know, drew a PI penalty I think late
in that game. So Baltimore seems like they might have
a little something going. So all of a sudden, if
you're Cincinnati and you lose that game, I mean, now
you're sitting here Owen too, and you're looking around the
division going all right, well, this may be a little
bit more difficult than I think anybody thought. And then look,
(19:00):
you know, we can get into the San Francisco side
of things when it comes to the Pittsburgh Steelers. But
what the f was that with the Pittsburgh Steelers yesterday?
Jesus man, what.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I don't know, Man, I don't know what to say.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'm trying to put keep my my professional hat on
in this moment because my fan, the fan in me,
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't understand what happened Alacking, I mean I didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
It was like rock Party was never injured, never missed
any time.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Not only was he not injured and never missed any
time or anything else that you're going to say, he
looked like.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
An elite franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And the Steelers just looked rattled early and never recovered.
There was just no like and you know, you're you're
listening to the crowd react, and like I thought, in
that game, Pittsburgh was in a good spot. You're getting
a team to go on the road and they've got
to travel all that way. It's an early kickoff, and
(20:18):
you know, just.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
They they well, they put a they loaded up on
their plane. Whip ass like, hey, they packed it up,
they put it under the plane, They shipped it, you know,
with them. They they carried it across border from border
to border on their way to the East coast, and
they landed in Pittsburgh and they unpacked it and and
(20:40):
they delivered it to.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Hind Oh whoa, whoa. The new name of the field
that the Steelers play it?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
What is it? Is it acupunt? What is it acupuncture
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I don't know, aqu something anyway, A sure get at
least I have to do it. And then you got it.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
It's agure a for sure. Yeah, well after.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This they got well they need some therapy after that game,
that's for sure, because that I don't you know, they
managed to muster one touchdown in the second quarter, and
they were blanked the rest of the way. And they
were blanked on offense and they were blanked on defense.
It was it was such a lopsided game. It was
(21:22):
so lopsided. I mean, they they just looked like they
were just it looked like they were playing a college team.
It looked like a pro team versus a college team.
That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
To Yeah, not not good on any level for the
Pittsburgh Steelers. And you know, I was assuming, like, in fact,
do you want to do you want to hear how
bad it was for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So my first
thought was, man, oh man, Mike Tomlin is going to
have some things to say after the game, Like that
(21:52):
was as ugly as it gets for Mike Tomlin in
his career as coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's going
to have some things to say at the game. Listen this,
it sounds like Mike Tomlin almost doesn't know what to
say because he was shocked at what happened at home
against the Niners.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
We got kicked in the teeth today in a lot
of ways. It was a failure on our party. In
all areas. You know, we got to coach better, we
got to play better. We talked about a lot of
the things and worked on a lot of the things
that unfolded in the ways that we didn't want them to.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
And so we go back to the drawing board.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It just looks like it sounds like he doesn't I
don't know what to do. Yeah, we just uh there's
he like, no animation, no, get fired up.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
I mean he probably let the team have it a
little bit. But I can't that I did not see
that happening.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's a somber day. I won't say it didn't sound
like he didn't know what to do. It just sounded
like what he said, like they they kicked them in
the teeth, they got bullied it, bro, it wasn't even close.
It just looked like they outclassed them so bad. They
out they physical them, they outplayed them, they out coached them,
(23:03):
they out everything. It just seemed like everything was so easy.
It was just easy and and and it just looked
like they were having so much fun. I mean, your
Boyfred Warner set a tone. Hit running back. I don't
even know if that was naj he hit somebody in
the mouth early in the game, I was like, yep,
they set the tone. They are loaded by the way,
(23:26):
like I said, San Francisco in my mind was like, yeah,
this is going to be a really good team this year.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
I wasn't sure.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
My biggest question has been where, you know, will they
be as good at the quarterback position. I don't know
how brock Purdy turned into what he is so early
and so quickly and nobody knowing. Maybe it just shows that,
you know, for all the people that think they know
what they're talking about, a lot of times they don't.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I don't really know what the answer to that is.
How is he so good? But he's that good?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
So good?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Because I think that you mentioned you said something a
little bit ago that that I'm fascinated to see where
where your head's at with this. All right, So you
obviously grew up in Pennsylvania Steelers fan.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
I grew up in Pittsburgh four one two. My address
was Pittsburgh thirty three and draft Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
You grew up. You're going to give that out of
the air. Yeah, I mean, while we're at it, if
you want to do your social Security number, screw it.
But so you you grew up there watching AFC Central football,
AFC North football. That's it. So you said that you
are now re evaluating the AFC North.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Yes, So what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
What are we looking at now after one of the week.
And by the way, for anybody to oh, it's just
one week, all right, so we'll change our opinions next week.
What are we do? What are the setting stone? Kiss
our ass? We can do.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
It literally, not set in stone, because I'm sitting there
rethinking it right now.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So how are we re evaluating the AFC North?
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Now that you've gotten to see the first full weekend.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And the I think the AFC North is wide open.
I think you got to say it's wide open. The
Baltimore Ravens was I mean, while it may the score
may say it was an impressive outing, it wasn't.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
It wasn't. It could be, it could be hidden.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I don't I didn't, you know, I didn't think that
it was like this amazing day for a team that
they should have beat. You know, they should have beat
the Texans. I don't know what I feel about Baltimore.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So I'll ask you this, do you believe that the
Steelers have the worst starting quarterback in the division.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
I mean, if you if you got to look at
it from I mean think about it. I mean, Deshaun Watson,
Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson. So I don't feel like that's
a hard question to answer it.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And so like my point is in what and now
the we've seen it a weekend because man, even Albert
Breer was on the air, Remember Albert Breer told us
man Kenny Pickett and George Pickett.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Could be be like a.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Top five quarterback like something.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
It could be a top five So and I know it's.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
The Niners and they're one of the better teams in
the league, but they're loaded. Yeah, like one weekend, Like
it does feel like that.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
You're not supposed to get hammered like that, though.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yeah, Like if you're a team that's on the up,
like you're hitting in a in a direction of being
a dominant team and a top five quarterback type of
player you're you're you probably shouldn't get dominated like that
on your own home field.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, that's I mean, that was.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I mean, I just so, I don't know, you know,
they ran through their defense like like something going through
your bows, very loosely.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It was not. It just wasn't pretty, man, It wasn't pretty.
It just seemed like the forty nine ers were toying
with them.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
More concern lost Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Okay, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I would say more concerning is a divisional opponent for one,
and for two, the way they lost, Like it wasn't
like they just lost. They were getting thumped by Cleveland.
Like there were moments in time where you were like, okay,
like dang, Like we talked about what Michael Parsons did
(27:27):
a little earlier. I mean your boy, Miles Garrett. Miles
Garrett not only was getting blocked by everybody on the
line like Michael was, but.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
He splits them, yeah and still gets a sack.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He's a monster.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Dude is a bull, and he is an athletic one.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And then the ad Zadarius Smith.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know, you ever noticed that a defense always seems
to improve the moment. Zadarias Smith is that on that
d line, Like it's just like they get better. Uh,
he has that get better impact wherever he goes. It
seems seems as though he's having that same impact on Cleveland.
But Cleveland's defense was they were playing, they were playing some.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Ball, and it also look, I mean, the bright spot
for the Steelers is, well, at least you're not gonna
have to see the Niners again because you ain't going
to a super Bowl. So like there's that. But for
the for the Bengals, this is I mean, this is now.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
A thing to see Cleveland again.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, you got to see him again again, and you
got manhandled like that.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
So and then you go into another divisional game and
and it's early, so that just seems like it puts
a little bit of pressure on the scenario where you
can't really kind of ease your way in. It's like bam,
two divisional games back to back, like boom boom, Like
let's get it in. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like that, that isn't what it is for for for
(28:51):
the Ravens, that isn't what it is for, uh, for
the Steelers, you know what I mean. So it's kind
of interesting that that the Bengals would come out and
have two divisional games back to back. Then you let
one get away from you in the first the first uh,
the first one, and now the question has to be
on your way back into you know this second game.
(29:14):
You know, do you really want to get two games
down so early and so quickly in the season. You know,
that just seems a little I don't know, that seems
to me like that's just a tad bit rough Now.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
They I believe they do. They do get them at home.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, and and there Look, according to DraftKings are three
point favorite. But you lose that one. Now not only
are you owing to, but you're owing to in the division.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's that's correct, That's that's a problem. Yeah, and that's pressure. Yeah,
you know I could see if you're like again you
asked the question. Here's the point. The original question is
which one is the worst loss? It's it's I would
assume it has to be the Bengals because of what
it sets up for, Like, you don't want to get
to o and two, so you almost and I don't
(30:02):
want to say it's a must win for them to
beat Baltimore, but you don't want to be going too
in the a f C North. You don't want to
be owing to in the a f C. If you're
a team that you're you're talking about trying to keep
pace to be you know, the one seed, and that
that that conference. But with that being said, I mean
Kansas City took it on the chin. It wasn't divisional,
(30:24):
but they took it on the chin. Nonetheless, there's there's
a few teams that, you know, you could look at
and say, you know that, you know, San Diego, I mean,
excuse me, La took it on the chins.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Yeah whatever, See, yes, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It doesn't even matter after that. Yeah, I don't know.
Miami played a Hell of Five, which, by the way,
you got Miami like they looked really good.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah.
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Speaker 2 (31:28):
So I did see this stat that was thrown out there,
and we talked and open up the show with the
Dallas Cowboys win over the New York Giants and just
how bad the Giants looked to open up the season.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I mean, you get blanked.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, but you did all.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
That hard work off season workouts, you know, work out together,
team organized, you know stuff, training camp and you get
shut out in.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
The first game.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, that's pretty rough.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
And you give forty points.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
So basically they haven't scored a point in months. But
you know, at least Daniel Jones got paid, so at
least at least there's that. But this according to Opta Stats.
All right, so Opta stats put this out, Okay, that
the Giants last night lost the game forty to nothing,
(32:26):
lost the sack battle seven to nothing, lost the turnover
battle three to nothing, had a field goal blocked and
returned for a touchdown, and threw a pick six, and
it Opta Stats went on to say, no other team
in NFL history has had all five happen in the
(32:47):
same season the Giants had happened in the same game.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I mean, with that being said, then there's some hope
and the chances that happened and then again are like.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
God, what a bag of crap they rolled.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
I mean it was Sunday night, man, like it was
the game like that. I was waiting on that game.
I'm like, man, come on, we know truck nuts and
you know all the stuff, and there's the other and you.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Were right though you call it. You said, I'm not
high on them.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I mean I didn't see that though.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well you couldn't have seen it that. I couldn't have seen. No,
you could have seen it come that way.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So that is the So, yeah, that's the historical performance
by the New York Giants to open up the year. So,
you know, fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
How much pressure does that put on the Jets for tonight?
Maybe no pressure at all. I mean it's like, if
we were to lose, just don't lose as bad as
our neighbors did.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, right, like, just just lose.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
And obviously with it being nine to eleven, you know,
this is you know, there's there's a lot of you know,
our thoughts are obviously with the families and everybody remembers. Man,
I can't believe it's been twenty two years.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Man, I was in the thick of that, bro I
got man, I always have a wild like. But I
had just came back from New York from the US Open,
you know, and I had people that I was tight
with back then that were flying out from the US
(34:26):
Open and almost could have possibly Like when it first happened,
I wasn't sure that loved Ones wasn't on you know
the jet, Yeah, that was going out because of where
it was heading towards. So I was in the and
I lived in DC, so bro when when that popped off,
(34:48):
you could hear it, Like I lived like forty five
minutes away from the Pentagon, and so you could hear
the fighter jets in the air and everything that was
going on. Man, it was. It was a tense moment
in time. You know what that felt like. You felt
so violated, and just to be at the epicenter of it,
(35:12):
you know, at one of the locations, it was just
it was it was surreal.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Jonas the second year in the league, right.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
What nine?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
What year it was two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
The second year, second year, I can recall driving, like
roads that used to be kind of open and and
you know, accessible to the public weren't. If you drove
by the Pentagon, there were a ton of humvies manned,
not just sitting there, they were manned. So the guys
(35:49):
are on the humby, are are on there, on the
on the weapon. They're standing there holding the weapon while
you're driving by. So essentially, the moment that you drive
by and you see that's going on, you're.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Like, we're in a war zone.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Yeah, it's And it's like, if you're an American, you
ask yourself, how many times in your life can you
say you are honestly driving and knew you were in
a war zone, like military war zone. I ain't talking
like somebody heard me say that, and there's like, hey, bruh,
don't forget where.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
You came from. I ain't forgot where I came from.
I know what a war zone looks like.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I'm talking about a military war zone, though a military
like that was pretty wild, bro.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
It just there was a I just remember there was
this eerie, somber tone, like it was palpable. You could
feel it in the air bag, and look, you know,
we're in California and nowhere close to the World Trade Center,
and nowhere close to New York where it happened.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
But there was just the Pentagon. It was the Pentagon too.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It just just like there was just this weird because
I remember I was I was working at TGI Fridays,
like I remember, I was a busboy at TGI Fridays
at the time, and I just remember people sitting there
and you would think, oh, are people, you know, going
out and drinking Like nobody could really It just people
were sitting at the bar just kind of nursing their drinks,
(37:23):
just confused, and everybody just went home early. There was
just no there was nobody was.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
In the mood.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I remember seeing the one shot that still freaks me out.
I remember where I was in the restaurant when the
video first came available on the news. It was on
every single channel. It was where there was the ground
shot where the person filmed there took their phone or
their camera whatever they had back then, and you could
see underneath as the plane was going into the side
(37:50):
of the building, like underneath the I just remember watching
that going this is this is history, and we're going
to remember where we were in this moment. You know,
my mom would always tell me about, you know, where
she was when JFK was assassinated, And my dad would
tell me these moments in his life, like where he
was at that moment when this happened. And that was
(38:12):
the first one that I just remember thinking, years from now,
I'll tell my kids and I'll tell my grandkids possibly
where I was and just how sad. That was one
of the stories that I remember hearing that just for
some reason it always got to me was they were
(38:32):
doing a documentary about it. I think it might have
been on NFL Network or something like that, where they
talked about because that season, you guys, basically all those
games are scrapped and then you placed that one as
the final game of the season, right. I think that's
why they did it, to where all the games that
week were then they were postponed and then played at
the end of the year. And I remember somebody saying
(38:55):
that one of the saddest sites they saw was that
they looked and you saw all of these cars that
were parked at the airport still that were probably people.
Speaker 4 (39:06):
That never going to go. It.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Just that's wild, man.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah, I didn't even think about it. That way.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, and just so you know, obviously, you know, you
know that's going to be a big storyline, as it
should be, and they're gonna, you know, celebrate you know,
the lives lost and a lot of tributes out there.
But that was one of the one of those moments
where there was just this feeling, this buzz in the
air that you just looked around and it just you
(39:32):
didn't know what to do, you know, just and there's
been moments like that, but not to that extent during
the course of our lives. So you know, obviously you
know thoughts with everybody affected by it, and you know,
even all these years later, twenty two years, cannot believe well.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I mean, there will never be enough years that get
you far enough apart from the you know, the pain
and disappointment and just you know, everything that that you
felt and and and again, like you said, that's that
that was a legacy. That was a legacy tragedy, meaning
(40:09):
that you know, husbands and wives and uncles and brothers
and sisters and sons and daughters and grandchildren and then
great grandchildren like they will forever be connected to that experience.
And you know, it's it's sometimes you know, we we
we had these conversations, and our country has become one
(40:32):
of those countries with social media that has really really
kind of become very toxic towards you know, reality and
knowing that the realities that exist for us are very
different in a lot of a lot of other places.
And and when you get into the conversations that are
(40:53):
connected to things like this that take place, it hopefully
kind of puts things back in its proper perspective. You know,
when people talk about home of the Brave, you know,
in the Land of the Free, or people give credit
to our military for protecting our freedoms and different things
like that. Most of us will never see, as I mentioned,
(41:14):
what a war zone looks like.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
You won't see it.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
You won't you won't experience what it's like to know
that a missile attack is about to take place, or
you know, go getting bunkers because of what what may
happen next. We don't, we don't live in that reality
in America, and I think I think we take it
for granted sometimes and I think that the idea of
(41:41):
it is it's just very foreign Jonas. And so when
you think about what that time created, I never in
my life experienced more love and care and consideration for
a fellow American than we did when that happened.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah, people came together.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
It wasn't about all of this bull junk that's going
on now and how people hate each other and talk
so crazy to one another.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
And do all of these wild things.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
It was like, for a moment in time, that tragedy
actually united our country.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
There was no Republican versus Democrat. No like if you
had a rival sports team, None of that mattered, Like
it didn't, you know, there was no none of that.
Just it was different. Everyone all of a sudden had
better perspective in that moment and just looked at it
and said, yeah, this is a different this is a
different situation, and this is a real tragedy. And some
(42:43):
of the stuff that we thought were important or we
thought were big deals pale in comparison and are really nothing.
It's all trivial in comparison to this.
Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah, it was a bittersweet moment because the bitterness of it.
Obviously you don't want to feel like you've been taking
advantage of the way that things happen. But then the
other side of it is is that we came together.
We came together in a way where you know, I
don't know that I've ever in my life experienced that
(43:14):
much togetherness in terms of people holding one another, crying
with one another, you know, supporting one another. Didn't care
if you were white, black, you know, anything like that.
Nothing mattered other than we were being here for one another.
I mean, I I think I cried every single national
(43:36):
anthem the rest of the way after that. Just couldn't
fight back the tears, and Niam, I'm getting emotional right now.
Couldn't fathom. You know, these are the things my father
lost his legs for, you know, fighting for our freedoms
and putting it on the line every single day so
(43:56):
that we can walk around and be the way that
we are, whether for good or for bad. We have
that right protected by by our military, by our our
support and our staff that protects us from all of
these these dangers. And so for it to become a
(44:17):
reality that it could actually touch down and hit and
and impact our lives the way that it did, it
was a wake up call. Seems like we need a
wake up call now. It's kind of interesting nine to
eleven being today, but it seems like we forget sometimes,
you know, the things that we really should be concerned about.
(44:39):
We should be concerned about being the best country that
we can be, being together as much as we possibly
can be, not being so separate, not being so advisarial
and confrontational towards one another.
Speaker 4 (44:52):
We should be together. We should be uh. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
We can have our differences, and we can have our disagreements,
but in the end, you're an American and I'm an American,
and that's what should matter, not my color, not anything else,
just not how much money I make, whatever it may be.
It should just be your American and I'm American. And
that common threat, not common bond, is the common threat
(45:15):
and common bond that links us together forever, and we
should protect that. And I think that that's what September
eleventh should always represent to us and our history moving
forward and in time, is that you should never forget
that we are all linked together, and holding that dear
(45:36):
and protecting that is something that you should actually be
willing to die for.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
Yeah, well said
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