September 15, 2023 • 37 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Football Friday, we look back at the
start of Week two in the NFL Eagles over the Vikings,
but there was some controversy and we will discuss it. Plus,
we're gonna get into the very latest on the Buffalo
Bills drama involving Stefan Diggs. Something doesn't seem right there.
(00:20):
The New York Jets had a planet quarterback and then
another team in the NFL stepped in. We're also going
to talk about some fighting words in the world the
college football. Plus we're gonna have another edition of In
case you missed it, We've got our picks against the
spread and you in and you out. It's all yours.
Coming up next here, Two Pros and a Cup of
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Speaker 3 (01:28):
Good?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Morning, fun little Friday morning here on the program?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Wonderful?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Are we feeling? Everybody fired up?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Fired up?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Everybody? Good to go? Brady Quinn good to go? No,
what we know, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Not? I don't here?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, well, I mean I didn't know. If it's just.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Relaxing, let me play that song.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Some of us have to like take off our headphones
and walk around for a bit just to calm down
after the awful songs, because you just want to do That's.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What it was, because you just want to lift everything
up around you right, just may get you all jacked, if.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Only if there's like a better song for a day
like today, kidd, so disruptive, sometimes definitely disruptive.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But let me tell you what is not disruptive.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What's not disruptive, what's not disruptive in.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The mood for a weekend filled with football? And that's
a football Friday.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Come on, much really, so much bettered, Justin.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Cooper going double barrel thumbs down.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, Sam, cut it, man, Let's let's go over it.
Let's there we go.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Come on football Friday, Eagles stop, Come on, come on
football Friday.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It is it is football.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Play. They eat down lots. It's too successful. I don't
know why you don't run it every single play. If
you can get three yards on every single play, it
is fourth and one every single time, Like, why not
just do it? All right?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So so you you don't mind the As we were
having the conversation this Eagles, what do they call it?
The the toush push? Is that what they're calling that?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is it the touch push?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What it is?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's what you're calling it?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, I don't know that. I got that from somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You're calling it all? I call it the grave diggers push.
Boy them them old lineman up front, they'd be getting
low and they be they be digging. It's like they
sticking the show in the ground and they digging you eventually, right,
I don't know, I don't know that you get hurt.
(04:10):
I think the only person I could probably get hurt
is the QB.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
What Sam, is that your grave digger traw again?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Let the dirt just shower over. You need help?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And that was Minnesota's defense front. That was Minnesota's defensive front.
Every single time them dudes lined up in that formation,
it ran that play every time. What are you doing?
Very nothing they could do to stop it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean, did they actually seriously take a look at
it this offseason and decide whether or not they were
going to eliminate it or no?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Because they don't care. You know, they've gotten better at
it though, Like it's a vault like they they create
like a spear, like it's it's I don't know, I know,
I know guys don't like it, but it's kind of
impressive to watch them root them dudes up out of
there like that, Like them those linemen doing that is
(05:15):
that's pretty d I know. Them dudes feel so empowered
when they run that play, like like man, get up
out of the club. Man like we got our QB.
He's right here. We're going right there. You can't stop us.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Does anybody else use it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Not like that? I ain't never seen it like that.
I've seen this. I've seen the keeper, I've seen the sneak.
I ain't never seen old linemen get down spare themselves.
That's what it looks like to me. Like you're sparing
yourselves into like as low as you can underneath the D.
You're not chopped blocking, You're you're scrumming. It's like it's
(05:55):
like rugby. You're you're in a scrub by.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The way the bar, it sounds less and less safe
more you describe it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Hey, bro, football isn't safe. I've tried to say this
for a while now.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Yeah, I'm the same. Is this is like a rugby play.
It is a rugby play. It is a rugby play.
It is It's a scrum, that's what it is. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Listen, the rules are the rules. Whatever they do with it,
whether they say it's they outlaw because it isn't safe
or whatever, the fact that they're using it right now,
like it works like it's effective. Like what was one
hundred percent success rate. They did not. It was not
even a question of if they were going to run it,
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and it was not even a question of if Minnesota
was going to stop it. So I don't know. I
don't know, Man, I run that ass every play if
I was If I'm Philadelphia, I'll run it every play
if I can run it. They seem to love to
do it, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I more had an issue with and by the congratulations
the Philadelphia Eagles. They are to an oho to start
off the season. Minnesota's got the h got the Jeff
Simms bug. They just can't help but turn the ball over.
Apparently that's that's their move there with the Vikings this year,
I think the bigger conversation is about the same conversation
we have at least two three times a year, which is,
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what's it going to take for them to get rid
of the fumbling the ball out of the end zone?
Forget forget the tush push or whatever the Eagles are doing.
What the hell is it going to take for them
to recognize that an offensive player fumbling the ball out
of the end zone shouldn't result in not only a
twenty yard loss, but a twenty yard gain for the
other team. I don't get it. None.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Can someone explained to me the origin of the rule.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I don't I don't know. I really like nothing about
it makes.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That would help.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I just feel like if you know how something starts,
usually you know it helps you have an understanding of
why it is the way it is.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, Yeah, And we can't even get that answer.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I just think that if if you are careless enough
to fumble the ball out of the end zone, you
have disqualified. You're right to have the ball anymore. Give
it to the other team, and it's a touchback. That's
whoever came up what it probably was like. If they
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fumble the ball out of the end zone, they lose
the ball. You lose the ball, and it's a touchback. Like,
I don't know, if you fumble it, what do you
like if you fumble it out of the end zone,
what what should the recourse be? Touches get the ball
right back where you started.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now, no touchback, you go back to the twenty. I mean,
I think that's punitive enough. You shouldn't lose possession, especially
when the other team doesn't recover the ball. None of
it makes sense. It's like you're spotting twenty yards and
the football for what, I don't know. We just happen
to be.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
On the other bounce in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah but what but they didn't have right, Yeah, it
just like none of it and for some reason lead
to lap is a defender of the rule?
Speaker 9 (09:07):
Lee on this hill absolutely, because you force the fumble,
it's your own end zone.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's not there. And no, no, no, yes, yes, yes that's.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
They didn't really force a fumble.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You're will you're there's.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Times when.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Okay, there's times when when players literally just have the
ball come out of their hand, has nothing to do
with the defender.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
But that's not always the case, right, Sometimes you are
forcing the fumble of a guy who's being careless.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So now we're making a subjective to whether we're making
this subjective to whether the defensive player did anything.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Hold on, here's the thing. There's only one choice. It's
team Brady. Yes, good awful, it's the dumbest.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How about we saw it.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
How about we solve it right here.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
Any any fumble out of bounds should change possessions.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Oh jesus, he just made it worse. Come on, Lee, Lee,
are you drunk?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You fumbled the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
One who lost the ball?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Why should I reward you?
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Next thing we're gonna do is cannibal guys use the
end zone like cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
We're already doing the you. How about in complete pass change?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Do you understand? Do you understand what a slippery slip
that is like for our society.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm just going to start giving things.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
I'm saying without trying to prove a point that you
don't get rewarded for being careless with the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
When I die.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
When I die, let me let me give you my
four oh one k just because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I mean, you deserve it. You don't do anything to
earn it, but you deserve it.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right, Yeah, you fumble out of the coffin, Lee, get
your four o one K.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
The only argument I see is that you can change
where the ball is placed if you fumble it at
the one.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Here's the argument, Lee, in in what world do we
have a penalty where not only do you lose possession,
but you lose twenty yards?
Speaker 9 (10:54):
That's what That's what I all concede, is that you
could put the ball where the ball was fumbled from,
not make it up, which makes sense. But you fumble
it through your own end zone, it's going to be
two points. There's a penalty for true, that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Now that that's true. If you fumble it in your
own end zone, that's that's a safety. That is a
safety two points. Though you don't get yards out of it,
they still another possession, but you're not giving them points
if they if they fumble it out of the opposite
like you're going in the score. You fumble it through
the end zone, you're not like, what do you do? What?
What is the solution to it? You say, go back
(11:30):
to the twenty, like it's a touch back to the twenty.
And by the way, why should you be wat should
the offense be rewarded? Now that we're here, let's just
talk about this. Why wouldn't you just why would it
be a safety for two points? Why would it be
a touchdown for the defense?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Like, if we're really examining the rules of this particular
play like this Lee just brought this up.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Make it a touchdown?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
If a quarterback had sacked in his own end zone,
made a touchdown for the defense, why make it two points?
Speaker 9 (11:58):
Well, because the safety is a safety that the reason there's.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That's the Problemly is a safety of safety in your mind,
which somehow you're okay with that probably why is it?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I just think it can.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Easily be six.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I just think the officials want to do that walk
like an Egyptian sign over their head. And I think
that's why they keep the safety in the rule book.
That's the only reason why. Let me tell you something, Lee,
you and LeVar are trying to screw over the offense again.
The offense just wants more and more gimmeas the offense
can't catch a break. In this league, everything's cater to
the defense.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
The gimmes.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I make the rules giving possessions to people without
them ever even earning it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean the Lewis created this as a rule. Like,
we're debating a rule that has existed for how long
existed for howl. There was a lot of that existed
for a while, LeVar that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Needed to get changed. I mean you want to go there.
I'm just saying, brother like, like there's a lot of things.
I mean to f and Shay, like to Shay on
that one. I mean, you you're you're one hundred correct.
There's no debating that one, right, there. But I'll just say,
in the world of football, the rule has been the
(13:12):
rule for a really, really long time. I'm just saying, right,
y'all shouldn't be attacking Lee over a rule that has
been played for really, really.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Good, which is, by the way, hasn't been changed.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
We just attacked the Lee for saying that any fumble
should be a change.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I did not go with Lee on that one. I
had Lee's back and was supportive.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
I just argument by everybody is that, well, doesn't it
work anywhere else in the field. The field no man's
land is not the same as the end zone. That's
why the end zone is a sacred thing. The goal
line goes on forever, right all around the globe and
back to the other side.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It doesn't you talk.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Goal line goes there's there's a sideline that it meets,
and that's the end of the What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
By the way, I anythink Dan or Alowski got his
career the goal cool line ended. You know, he ran
out of bound.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's me Let's flook quarterback? Was that Gus Farott or
a shooler that that realized that the end zone ends
as well? And then there's a wall and then that's
where the throgs are run into it. Knock yourself out
and yeah, yeah, concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think we've just established if you were on the
side of let's keep the rule as is to where
when you fumble the ball out of the end zone
you lose twenty yards and possession even though the other
team didn't recover it. You deserve to be thrown in
a wood chipper. And I think that's a fair punishment
for everybody here, all right. So it's just an awful
rule that's never made sense, and for some reason address.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
This is this is peak, like vikings peak. Kirk Cousins haters.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Some I saw some guy post on Twitter, Well, if
Kirk Cousins would have thrown a better ball, they wouldn't
made worry about it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Kirk Cousins said.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Serious, Kirk Cousins are serious.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, listen to this. Kirk Cousins, because he's a decent person,
took one for the lead and tried to be accountable
for this terrible, terrible to leave. Yeah, took one for
the league. Listen to kirk Cousins here, mister nice guy,
mister reputation trying to change after the quarterback on Netflix,
and I swear to God we've got this. Kirk Cousin,
sound you doubt us here on this show? You are
(15:16):
full of crap. Listen to Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
I'm gonna be hard on myself, right, I'm gonna say,
look that balls. You shouldn't have stopped him. You know,
the ball stops him, so we have to go up
and get it and has to pull through. What if
I threw a perfect ball, what if it had dropped
right in the bucket, maybe he runs in untouched. So again,
going back to we don't even have to have that moment.
If I can throw a perfect pass and drop it
in the bucket to him, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Don't be a doormat.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That'll be ten dollars. You know what was interesting? Do
you see how much duress he was under the entire game?
Go back and we look at the pocket you through
from that one?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah? Man, that d line is I mean, why aren't
people scratched like you gotta be scratching your had and
saying how do you not take on the approach of
how you than Nick Sirianni, Like, how do you not
build your shraft? Georgia? Hello, I mean their defensive front
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and their offensive front are there. I mean, that's as
impressive as it gets. It's gonna be hard to deal
with them, man, four quarters, It's gonna be hard to
deal with them boys. Man.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You also, though, had a backup center, and then you
had apparently a backup left tackle that was quite possibly
worse than the first and third.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
String left tackle. And you know who got hurt. I
hope he's all right.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
But christ Perry did a better job than Udo did. Obviously,
Darresol was out.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So yeah, a tough night for Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
The one thing we do know is it wasn't Eagles win.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I think it was a push as far as the
final spread for yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Go figure. The word push is the theme of the
Philadelphia Eagles though. Yeah, yeah, but who won? Lee?
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Sam? Do we have that sound that? Can we play that? What?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
What did you say? E? L G L yes E
S E l.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Over served?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Hey lady, lady reading an eye chart? Nothing of your team?
You guys remember this?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
T hey you know what.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Hard man E T E T E Wow listen, uh
you know what happens. It is two pros and a cup.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Of ot here gamer throwing out a whole bunch of
different letters. They gotta be a gamer in the moment.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
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(18:22):
everybody was trying to tell us it's all good, I
guess it's not and one team could have some issues
moving forward. We'll get into that for you next here
on FSR.
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less than twenty minutes from now here from the ti
raq dot com studios. So, we were talking yesterday about
this reporter in Buffalo who was caught on a hot
mic being critical of Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And yeah, you buried Jonas.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Listen, I feel like LeVar and I both brought out
the shovels. Come on, you don't. You don't want to
do a tandem burial hair LeVar?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Come on, hey, not.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Touching that shovels up, LeVar, I'm not touching that.
Speaker 11 (19:36):
Get him against, get him against Sam?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Noop that one. I will not be out for this one.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, okay, very very good. Mine's a spoon. But if
we transition over to this, if we Stefan Diggs did respond,
all right, we were waiting to see whether or not
he would be upset by the comments that were made.
Now the reporter did apologize. She said, you know, she
(20:10):
didn't meet any ill will. It was said in jest,
so on and so forth, all the other stuff that
came along with it. Stefan Diggs said the following via
Twitter quote the audio shared was hurtful and was insulting
to my character and to how I was raised. I've
always treated people how I want to be treated. I
greet everyone with smiles and respect, from the people in
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our cafe to the people that keep our building in
clean and in order. The media and fans may confuse
my competitiveness, but they witness on the field as to
who I am as a person. But off the field,
I'd never treat anyone how she described and have never
said anything remotely close to that to her. I don't
know why it was said, but this is an example
of why people don't want to deal with the media.
(20:53):
It's hard to fight with the preconceived notions people have
about you, regardless of ever hearing a personal or having
a personal experience with them. We get that you all
have a job and I respect it, but please remember
I'm a human just like you, and if I have
ever made you or anyone else feel like you can't
approach me, I apologize. Time to lock back in forward
focused praying hands emoji. So there was Stefan Diggs response
(21:18):
to the to the critical comments there. Now that I
didn't see anywhere in there that he talked about his quarterback,
who was also a turnover machine a week one. I
didn't see anything like that. But nonetheless, uh well, but it.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Does go to his point though, they're very, very caring
people and giving people. They give of themselves and that's
why you know Josh was sharing the ball with the
other team.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, come on, yeah, that is that is true.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Heyto On a more serious note, though, I totally relate
to what what Stefan Diggs typed. I totally, I totally
relate to it because I have I have been I
have been subject to that during my career as well
where at we're at. In college, I was subject to it.
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In the Pros, I was subject to it to certain
what's that which team in the pros? Washington? Why is that?
I wasn't talking bad about Washington? He asked me where
I experienced up top, Brady, that was your setup.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That was y'all set up to get me to pay
ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Just what we're talking you guys are?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I mean, LeVar, think about the gymnastics. We have to
perform and make that five happen. It was definitely perfectly timed.
I mean, okay, what we're time, what we're talking?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, do y'all do like seances and and sit cross
leg with like tidy whities on you if we have to? Yeah,
what are y'all? What are y'all like trying to get
that when you'll do? What are y'all looking to achieve?
I don't know, I asked Jonas. I'm just there to
(23:04):
be a support for him. Yeah, and drinking in the background.
Wow cheese too, man. Wow, I can't wait till we
go hang out the Graduate hotels. Hey, even though even
though Q is going to have to work, but that
I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Hey, can I can? I ask you guys this though,
And I don't know that we know exactly what it is.
What there's a problem with Buffalo and it's been going
on for several months now, and it feels like it's
not going off. Something is off there and I don't
know what it is, but it just feels awkward.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Let's let's finish the Diggs conversation for us. Like, I know, LeVar,
you can relate. I'm more curious. It just seems like
it follows him.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The of what's taking place is I mean, his name
is always seemingly there's always something.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
That now that is true him Monday night yelling at
Josh Allen to be smart. He's walking down to the
quarterback yelling be smart, be smart, like trying to get
his attention all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
And I'm like, man, like, I don't you know. I
don't know him like that and never play with him.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
So maybe it is just the competitor in him and
he's just talking to his boy like that sometimes happens,
So I don't want to make too much of it,
but it just seems like there's always something that his
brother chimes into. I don't know, man, I get that feelings.
He's a special player and they need him desperately in Buffalo,
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but it feels like this, this thing's heading in the
wrong direction.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I know Stefan Diggs and I know his family and
I know some people that know him super super super
intimately in terms of his growth as a person since
middle school, he's always been a solid dude, always has
been a good dude. The family has always been, you know, good,
(25:04):
good people to deal with. The mom has always been
good to deal with. They have a great reputation. I'll
start by saying that, but I think in this situation
in particular, I mean, he didn't ask for that, you know,
he didn't ask for a lady to get caught off,
you know and cut off offline on or off record,
(25:28):
on on an open mic saying the things that she
said about him. But the reason why I said that
she didn't either for that matter, well, for what it's worth,
she didn't either. Yeah, I mean that's that's that's real talk.
But for for her to take that type of a
personal approach to how she spoke about him, it's like,
(25:49):
what you know, now, what is her agenda? Like, what
do you think her agenda is when she's waiting to
interview him? Like is she really going to do a
real interview or is she going to like right with
that type of feeling in her heart that that's how
she feels about the dude. I mean I would be
hurt by that as well. If I'm a person that
goes out of my way, which I do, I go
(26:10):
out of my way to be polite. I'm I take
the time to address people, not hostile at all. But
if you look at the way I played, it's everything
but polite. It's very hostile, it's very aggressive, it's very valient,
and I feel like a lot of times it was
(26:31):
easy to judge or make make inaccurate judgments of who
I am as a person based off of the way
I did things on the football field, and that's not
who I am as a person. I'm in character when
I go out there. I've always said this, if it's
one thing that I've always understood about playing sports, I'm
(26:51):
competing as hard as I can, but I also know
that it's a show. I'm going out there to perform,
and so to me, there's the there's the aspect of
understanding the game as a competitor and how you prepare
for it, but it's also the idea of understanding that
it's a show as well, Like this is a production,
this is a produced reality show. And so to me,
(27:16):
if I'm in character and you're judging me based off
of the character that you she on the field, not
not judging the content of my character, Like she was
taking personal shots at him, that wasn't that wasn't based
off of it didn't sound like it was based off
of real knowledge, real real interaction, And that to me,
(27:37):
I mean I would have been bothered by that too,
because I'm like, these are the people who are covering me,
these are the stories that are being written about me,
and you know, general perception to the to the masses are.
If somebody writes an article and they're writing it with
with I guess that type of preconceived notion, and that
gets out that's written and that's published, who's ever that
(28:00):
they may believe the tone of what it is that
that person is writing about.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, this, I mean, this is a hot mic. It
wasn't even an article. There was no deep did.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I understand that? But what I'm saying is no hot mike.
You don't know that that's how this person that's writing
this article is feeling about that player in particular, and
they write an article, well, I.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Guess the question and his statement doesn't answer this, which,
in my if I was in his shoes, I directly
address the person and said, why do you feel that way? Like,
name one instance where this was the case, and I
would be curious. Yeah, I would be indeed to know.
It's just it's really odd when you hear someone say
(28:40):
something like that, as if you get the sense they
have a one on one experience where that must have happened,
that's what you think at least, And so if it
didn't happen or she embellished, yeah, she's the wrong. I mean,
you said it yesterday, LeVar, Like she should be held
accountable like anyone else. There should be a double standard
for someone fabricating something or embellishing something and then making
(29:02):
someone else look batter, especially when that's their profession. So
I'm more curious as to what actually took place to
make her say that, because she didn't really address it
after all this other than apologize, and Diggs didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Say anything either about it.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So again, to me, the greater story is there was
discernomentter on happiness in the offseason, the way the season
last year, like there's just always something. I mean, the
way he got out of Minnesota, there's always something. And
that's that's more of the issue I think with the Bills,
the way they played Week one, the way that division looks.
(29:41):
Maybe it's the laser now that the Jets aren't as
much of a contender, but I just there's something going
on there with Diggs aside from the whole story with
the hot bike, there's something else going on.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, I agree with that. I wonder what she looks like.
I wonder does anybody know what she looks like? Steady
Jonas can find that.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hard well, we will effort that during the break here.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I wonder if she looks like the editor that was
in London. I just does she look like the one
that Brett fav was text messaging? I mean, I just
wonder sometimes that plays a part well these stories as well.
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Wow.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
R NFL is.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
Targeting a new country for an an international game in
twenty twenty four, that country being Spain. They're targeting Madrid.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
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Speaker 9 (32:32):
Notably two different stadiums, either the stadium that holds Atletico Madrid,
which is a natural grass field, or another field that's
a hybrid grass field. Uh there in Madrid as well.
So Real Madrid's team excuse.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Me pretty much, Hey, guys, Lee, I was so peaceful.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I just I just hope they give those players some
time to enjoy the the sights and scenes of Spain
while they're out there. That's all I have it for,
because I've heard that it is. There's a lot to
look at.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You want to know. I dislocated my pinky in Spain
because of her. That Yeah, saw saw someone's sunbathing, and
it was very impressive to me. So I started doing
my impressed the person that I was hoping was looking
at me run. I got into the water. I felt
the water get all the way up to my knee.
(33:31):
I thought it was deep enough to take a dive,
like a smooth dive into the the ocean. What, yeah,
this is true story, man, that's your move. I mean
I was like what I was fourteen? I was fourteen.
You like, you run in the water, then you dive
into it and you're just a pop up. I was
(33:52):
almost to the water when when I saw.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It LaVar Hasselhoff.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah, a baby as that. I mean, I had
a decent little body at fourteen too, and I looked
like I was a little bit older than what I was.
And that lady that caught my eye and and and
you know, tingled my fancy. I got to say, was
very very very impressive to me. And so that's what
I did, and I dove into this ocean. I think
(34:16):
it was the Mediterranean Sea. I believe and I hit
my finger into the into the sand, just located my finger.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Did you play? Play it off? When he got up,
and well.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Nobody knew that I did it. I just pulled it
and put it back in and just kept it moving like, oh, well,
you know that was real smooth A How bad did that?
Things swell up? It was a little stiff, and I
was there to play basketball, so I was buddy.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
That's all. Well, you know it didn't affect my illness.
Gets your head out of the gutter. I was still
able to handle the ball that is on the four.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
YEA love some spa in all day?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Have you been this faan? Nope, So you're just.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, I just based that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I haven't heard that that much. Buddy, get some you
get some bad information.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
No, Sam, you've been there. I was there in twenty eighteen.
Jonas is spot on. Things look all right, Things look
very nice. Not just talking about the castles either.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I have a friend, guy looks at a cornfield the
same way.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Hi yield. Get a load of that silo husk that.
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Speaker 9 (35:44):
Alabama is gearing up for a trip to Tampa to
take on USF. Ahead of that, the football players were
fed alligator in a themed themed meal, problem, of course,
being that USF does not the home of the Gators
as Florida is they are the home of bulls. Would
have been a lot more fitting if they served them,
you know, beef or something of the sort. But yeah,
(36:05):
there's pictures online of a whole gator just sitting on
a slab being served up.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Okay, okay, hold on for a second. Do we know
for sure that they were like sending a message and
that was like a theme thing or were they just
having some gator?
Speaker 9 (36:20):
What social media teams kind of went with was the
themes like, hey, here's some gator for our trip to Florida.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, damn, so Bama's what two and two now took
two hells in the past week.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Just imagine what they're eating if they were playing South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
You know, I just had some gator at Chicken the
airport in Dallas the other day.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You at airport Gator?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah? I was at Yeah, what's the big? What's the big?
What's the super popular restaurant in Dallas?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
What is it?
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Speaker 3 (36:56):
Papa Papa does there? You got new Papa do up? Though,
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(00:20):
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Good?
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Morning, fun little Friday morning here on the program?
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Wonderful?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Are we feeling? Everybody fired up?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Fired up?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Everybody? Good to go? Brady Quinn good to go? No,
what we know, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Not? I don't here?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Okay, well, I mean I didn't know. If it's just.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Relaxing, let me play that song.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Some of us have to like take off our headphones
and walk around for a bit just to calm down
after the awful songs, because you just want to do That's.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What it was, because you just want to lift everything
up around you right, just may get you all jacked, if.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Only if there's like a better song for a day
like today, kidd, so disruptive, sometimes definitely disruptive.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
But let me tell you what is not disruptive.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
What's not disruptive, what's not disruptive in.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
The mood for a weekend filled with football? And that's
a football Friday.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Come on, much really, so much bettered, Justin.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Cooper going double barrel thumbs down.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, Sam, cut it, man, Let's let's go over it.
Let's there we go.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Come on football Friday, Eagles stop, Come on, come on
football Friday.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It is it is football.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Play. They eat down lots. It's too successful. I don't
know why you don't run it every single play. If
you can get three yards on every single play, it
is fourth and one every single time, Like, why not
just do it? All right?
Speaker 1 (03:33):
So so you you don't mind the As we were
having the conversation this Eagles, what do they call it?
The the toush push? Is that what they're calling that?
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Now?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Is it the touch push?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
What it is?
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's what you're calling it?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yes, I don't know that. I got that from somebody.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
You're calling it all? I call it the grave diggers push.
Boy them them old lineman up front, they'd be getting
low and they be they be digging. It's like they
sticking the show in the ground and they digging you eventually, right,
I don't know, I don't know that you get hurt.
(04:10):
I think the only person I could probably get hurt
is the QB.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
What Sam, is that your grave digger traw again?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Let the dirt just shower over. You need help?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And that was Minnesota's defense front. That was Minnesota's defensive front.
Every single time them dudes lined up in that formation,
it ran that play every time. What are you doing?
Very nothing they could do to stop it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I mean, did they actually seriously take a look at
it this offseason and decide whether or not they were
going to eliminate it or no?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Because they don't care. You know, they've gotten better at
it though, Like it's a vault like they they create
like a spear, like it's it's I don't know, I know,
I know guys don't like it, but it's kind of
impressive to watch them root them dudes up out of
there like that, Like them those linemen doing that is
(05:15):
that's pretty d I know. Them dudes feel so empowered
when they run that play, like like man, get up
out of the club. Man like we got our QB.
He's right here. We're going right there. You can't stop us.
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Does anybody else use it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Not like that? I ain't never seen it like that.
I've seen this. I've seen the keeper, I've seen the sneak.
I ain't never seen old linemen get down spare themselves.
That's what it looks like to me. Like you're sparing
yourselves into like as low as you can underneath the D.
You're not chopped blocking, You're you're scrumming. It's like it's
(05:55):
like rugby. You're you're in a scrub by.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The way the bar, it sounds less and less safe
more you describe it.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Hey, bro, football isn't safe. I've tried to say this
for a while now.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
Yeah, I'm the same. Is this is like a rugby play.
It is a rugby play. It is a rugby play.
It is It's a scrum, that's what it is. Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Listen, the rules are the rules. Whatever they do with it,
whether they say it's they outlaw because it isn't safe
or whatever, the fact that they're using it right now,
like it works like it's effective. Like what was one
hundred percent success rate. They did not. It was not
even a question of if they were going to run it,
(06:39):
and it was not even a question of if Minnesota
was going to stop it. So I don't know. I
don't know, Man, I run that ass every play if
I was If I'm Philadelphia, I'll run it every play
if I can run it. They seem to love to
do it, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I more had an issue with and by the congratulations
the Philadelphia Eagles. They are to an oho to start
off the season. Minnesota's got the h got the Jeff
Simms bug. They just can't help but turn the ball over.
Apparently that's that's their move there with the Vikings this year,
I think the bigger conversation is about the same conversation
we have at least two three times a year, which is,
(07:19):
what's it going to take for them to get rid
of the fumbling the ball out of the end zone?
Forget forget the tush push or whatever the Eagles are doing.
What the hell is it going to take for them
to recognize that an offensive player fumbling the ball out
of the end zone shouldn't result in not only a
twenty yard loss, but a twenty yard gain for the
other team. I don't get it. None.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Can someone explained to me the origin of the rule.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I don't I don't know. I really like nothing about
it makes.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That would help.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I just feel like if you know how something starts,
usually you know it helps you have an understanding of
why it is the way it is.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Right, Yeah, And we can't even get that answer.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
I just think that if if you are careless enough
to fumble the ball out of the end zone, you
have disqualified. You're right to have the ball anymore. Give
it to the other team, and it's a touchback. That's
whoever came up what it probably was like. If they
(08:22):
fumble the ball out of the end zone, they lose
the ball. You lose the ball, and it's a touchback. Like,
I don't know, if you fumble it, what do you
like if you fumble it out of the end zone,
what what should the recourse be? Touches get the ball
right back where you started.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Now, no touchback, you go back to the twenty. I mean,
I think that's punitive enough. You shouldn't lose possession, especially
when the other team doesn't recover the ball. None of
it makes sense. It's like you're spotting twenty yards and
the football for what, I don't know. We just happen
to be.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
On the other bounce in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah but what but they didn't have right, Yeah, it
just like none of it and for some reason lead
to lap is a defender of the rule?
Speaker 9 (09:07):
Lee on this hill absolutely, because you force the fumble,
it's your own end zone.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
It's not there. And no, no, no, yes, yes, yes that's.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
They didn't really force a fumble.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
You're will you're there's.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Times when.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Okay, there's times when when players literally just have the
ball come out of their hand, has nothing to do
with the defender.
Speaker 9 (09:30):
But that's not always the case, right, Sometimes you are
forcing the fumble of a guy who's being careless.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So now we're making a subjective to whether we're making
this subjective to whether the defensive player did anything.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Hold on, here's the thing. There's only one choice. It's
team Brady. Yes, good awful, it's the dumbest.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
How about we saw it.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
How about we solve it right here.
Speaker 9 (09:54):
Any any fumble out of bounds should change possessions.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Oh jesus, he just made it worse. Come on, Lee, Lee,
are you drunk?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
You fumbled the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
One who lost the ball?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Why should I reward you?
Speaker 9 (10:06):
Next thing we're gonna do is cannibal guys use the
end zone like cheerleaders.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
We're already doing the you. How about in complete pass change?
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Do you understand? Do you understand what a slippery slip
that is like for our society.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I'm just going to start giving things.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
I'm saying without trying to prove a point that you
don't get rewarded for being careless with the ball.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
When I die.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
When I die, let me let me give you my
four oh one k just because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I mean, you deserve it. You don't do anything to
earn it, but you deserve it.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right, Yeah, you fumble out of the coffin, Lee, get
your four o one K.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
I didn't.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
The only argument I see is that you can change
where the ball is placed if you fumble it at
the one.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Here's the argument, Lee, in in what world do we
have a penalty where not only do you lose possession,
but you lose twenty yards?
Speaker 9 (10:54):
That's what That's what I all concede, is that you
could put the ball where the ball was fumbled from,
not make it up, which makes sense. But you fumble
it through your own end zone, it's going to be
two points. There's a penalty for true, that's true.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Now that that's true. If you fumble it in your
own end zone, that's that's a safety. That is a
safety two points. Though you don't get yards out of it,
they still another possession, but you're not giving them points
if they if they fumble it out of the opposite
like you're going in the score. You fumble it through
the end zone, you're not like, what do you do? What?
What is the solution to it? You say, go back
(11:30):
to the twenty, like it's a touch back to the twenty.
And by the way, why should you be wat should
the offense be rewarded? Now that we're here, let's just
talk about this. Why wouldn't you just why would it
be a safety for two points? Why would it be
a touchdown for the defense?
Speaker 4 (11:44):
Like, if we're really examining the rules of this particular
play like this Lee just brought this up.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
Make it a touchdown?
Speaker 4 (11:52):
If a quarterback had sacked in his own end zone,
made a touchdown for the defense, why make it two points?
Speaker 9 (11:58):
Well, because the safety is a safety that the reason there's.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
That's the Problemly is a safety of safety in your mind,
which somehow you're okay with that probably why is it?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
I just think it can.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Easily be six.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
I just think the officials want to do that walk
like an Egyptian sign over their head. And I think
that's why they keep the safety in the rule book.
That's the only reason why. Let me tell you something, Lee,
you and LeVar are trying to screw over the offense again.
The offense just wants more and more gimmeas the offense
can't catch a break. In this league, everything's cater to
the defense.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
The gimmes.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, I make the rules giving possessions to people without
them ever even earning it.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I mean the Lewis created this as a rule. Like,
we're debating a rule that has existed for how long
existed for howl. There was a lot of that existed
for a while, LeVar that.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Needed to get changed. I mean you want to go there.
I'm just saying, brother like, like there's a lot of things.
I mean to f and Shay, like to Shay on
that one. I mean, you you're you're one hundred correct.
There's no debating that one, right, there. But I'll just say,
in the world of football, the rule has been the
(13:12):
rule for a really, really long time. I'm just saying, right,
y'all shouldn't be attacking Lee over a rule that has
been played for really, really.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Good, which is, by the way, hasn't been changed.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
We just attacked the Lee for saying that any fumble
should be a change.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
I did not go with Lee on that one. I
had Lee's back and was supportive.
Speaker 9 (13:32):
I just argument by everybody is that, well, doesn't it
work anywhere else in the field. The field no man's
land is not the same as the end zone. That's
why the end zone is a sacred thing. The goal
line goes on forever, right all around the globe and
back to the other side.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It doesn't you talk.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Goal line goes there's there's a sideline that it meets,
and that's the end of the What are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
By the way, I anythink Dan or Alowski got his
career the goal cool line ended. You know, he ran
out of bound.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's me Let's flook quarterback? Was that Gus Farott or
a shooler that that realized that the end zone ends
as well? And then there's a wall and then that's
where the throgs are run into it. Knock yourself out
and yeah, yeah, concussion.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I think we've just established if you were on the
side of let's keep the rule as is to where
when you fumble the ball out of the end zone
you lose twenty yards and possession even though the other
team didn't recover it. You deserve to be thrown in
a wood chipper. And I think that's a fair punishment
for everybody here, all right. So it's just an awful
rule that's never made sense, and for some reason address.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
This is this is peak, like vikings peak. Kirk Cousins haters.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Some I saw some guy post on Twitter, Well, if
Kirk Cousins would have thrown a better ball, they wouldn't
made worry about it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Kirk Cousins said.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Serious, Kirk Cousins are serious.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, listen to this. Kirk Cousins, because he's a decent person,
took one for the lead and tried to be accountable
for this terrible, terrible to leave. Yeah, took one for
the league. Listen to kirk Cousins here, mister nice guy,
mister reputation trying to change after the quarterback on Netflix,
and I swear to God we've got this. Kirk Cousin,
sound you doubt us here on this show? You are
(15:16):
full of crap. Listen to Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 10 (15:18):
I'm gonna be hard on myself, right, I'm gonna say,
look that balls. You shouldn't have stopped him. You know,
the ball stops him, so we have to go up
and get it and has to pull through. What if
I threw a perfect ball, what if it had dropped
right in the bucket, maybe he runs in untouched. So again,
going back to we don't even have to have that moment.
If I can throw a perfect pass and drop it
in the bucket to him, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Don't be a doormat.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
That'll be ten dollars. You know what was interesting? Do
you see how much duress he was under the entire game?
Go back and we look at the pocket you through
from that one?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah? Man, that d line is I mean, why aren't
people scratched like you gotta be scratching your had and
saying how do you not take on the approach of
how you than Nick Sirianni, Like, how do you not
build your shraft? Georgia? Hello, I mean their defensive front
(16:09):
and their offensive front are there. I mean, that's as
impressive as it gets. It's gonna be hard to deal
with them, man, four quarters, It's gonna be hard to
deal with them boys. Man.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
You also, though, had a backup center, and then you
had apparently a backup left tackle that was quite possibly
worse than the first and third.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
String left tackle. And you know who got hurt. I
hope he's all right.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
But christ Perry did a better job than Udo did. Obviously,
Darresol was out.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So yeah, a tough night for Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
The one thing we do know is it wasn't Eagles win.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I think it was a push as far as the
final spread for yourself.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Go figure. The word push is the theme of the
Philadelphia Eagles though. Yeah, yeah, but who won? Lee?
Speaker 11 (16:57):
Sam? Do we have that sound that? Can we play that? What?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
What did you say? E? L G L yes E
S E l.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Over served?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Hey lady, lady reading an eye chart? Nothing of your team?
You guys remember this?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
T hey you know what.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Hard man E T E T E Wow listen, uh
you know what happens. It is two pros and a cup.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Of ot here gamer throwing out a whole bunch of
different letters. They gotta be a gamer in the moment.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the Here. So
we're gonna have the usuals coming up later on. We
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our picks against the spread. We're gonna spread them in
week two in the NFL this weekend, and we've got
you in, you out. It's all yours here until nine
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ourselves a situation to monitor in the NFL. Apparently, while
(18:22):
everybody was trying to tell us it's all good, I
guess it's not and one team could have some issues
moving forward. We'll get into that for you next here
on FSR.
Speaker 12 (18:31):
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's just an idiot, It's two Pros and a Cup
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(19:07):
less than twenty minutes from now here from the ti
raq dot com studios. So, we were talking yesterday about
this reporter in Buffalo who was caught on a hot
mic being critical of Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
And yeah, you buried Jonas.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Listen, I feel like LeVar and I both brought out
the shovels. Come on, you don't. You don't want to
do a tandem burial hair LeVar?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Come on, hey, not.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Touching that shovels up, LeVar, I'm not touching that.
Speaker 11 (19:36):
Get him against, get him against Sam?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Noop that one. I will not be out for this one.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, okay, very very good. Mine's a spoon. But if
we transition over to this, if we Stefan Diggs did respond,
all right, we were waiting to see whether or not
he would be upset by the comments that were made.
Now the reporter did apologize. She said, you know, she
(20:10):
didn't meet any ill will. It was said in jest,
so on and so forth, all the other stuff that
came along with it. Stefan Diggs said the following via
Twitter quote the audio shared was hurtful and was insulting
to my character and to how I was raised. I've
always treated people how I want to be treated. I
greet everyone with smiles and respect, from the people in
(20:31):
our cafe to the people that keep our building in
clean and in order. The media and fans may confuse
my competitiveness, but they witness on the field as to
who I am as a person. But off the field,
I'd never treat anyone how she described and have never
said anything remotely close to that to her. I don't
know why it was said, but this is an example
of why people don't want to deal with the media.
(20:53):
It's hard to fight with the preconceived notions people have
about you, regardless of ever hearing a personal or having
a personal experience with them. We get that you all
have a job and I respect it, but please remember
I'm a human just like you, and if I have
ever made you or anyone else feel like you can't
approach me, I apologize. Time to lock back in forward
focused praying hands emoji. So there was Stefan Diggs response
(21:18):
to the to the critical comments there. Now that I
didn't see anywhere in there that he talked about his quarterback,
who was also a turnover machine a week one. I
didn't see anything like that. But nonetheless, uh well, but it.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Does go to his point though, they're very, very caring
people and giving people. They give of themselves and that's
why you know Josh was sharing the ball with the
other team.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yes, come on, yeah, that is that is true.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Heyto On a more serious note, though, I totally relate
to what what Stefan Diggs typed. I totally, I totally
relate to it because I have I have been I
have been subject to that during my career as well
where at we're at. In college, I was subject to it.
(22:05):
In the Pros, I was subject to it to certain
what's that which team in the pros? Washington? Why is that?
I wasn't talking bad about Washington? He asked me where
I experienced up top, Brady, that was your setup.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
That was y'all set up to get me to pay
ten dollars.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Just what we're talking you guys are?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I mean, LeVar, think about the gymnastics. We have to
perform and make that five happen. It was definitely perfectly timed.
I mean, okay, what we're time, what we're talking?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Okay, do y'all do like seances and and sit cross
leg with like tidy whities on you if we have to? Yeah,
what are y'all? What are y'all like trying to get
that when you'll do? What are y'all looking to achieve?
I don't know, I asked Jonas. I'm just there to
(23:04):
be a support for him. Yeah, and drinking in the background.
Wow cheese too, man. Wow, I can't wait till we
go hang out the Graduate hotels. Hey, even though even
though Q is going to have to work, but that
I can't wait to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Hey, can I can? I ask you guys this though,
And I don't know that we know exactly what it is.
What there's a problem with Buffalo and it's been going
on for several months now, and it feels like it's
not going off. Something is off there and I don't
know what it is, but it just feels awkward.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Let's let's finish the Diggs conversation for us. Like, I know, LeVar,
you can relate. I'm more curious. It just seems like
it follows him.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
The of what's taking place is I mean, his name
is always seemingly there's always something.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
That now that is true him Monday night yelling at
Josh Allen to be smart. He's walking down to the
quarterback yelling be smart, be smart, like trying to get
his attention all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
And I'm like, man, like, I don't you know. I
don't know him like that and never play with him.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
So maybe it is just the competitor in him and
he's just talking to his boy like that sometimes happens,
So I don't want to make too much of it,
but it just seems like there's always something that his
brother chimes into. I don't know, man, I get that feelings.
He's a special player and they need him desperately in Buffalo,
(24:36):
but it feels like this, this thing's heading in the
wrong direction.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I know Stefan Diggs and I know his family and
I know some people that know him super super super
intimately in terms of his growth as a person since
middle school, he's always been a solid dude, always has
been a good dude. The family has always been, you know, good,
(25:04):
good people to deal with. The mom has always been
good to deal with. They have a great reputation. I'll
start by saying that, but I think in this situation
in particular, I mean, he didn't ask for that, you know,
he didn't ask for a lady to get caught off,
you know and cut off offline on or off record,
(25:28):
on on an open mic saying the things that she
said about him. But the reason why I said that
she didn't either for that matter, well, for what it's worth,
she didn't either. Yeah, I mean that's that's that's real talk.
But for for her to take that type of a
personal approach to how she spoke about him, it's like,
(25:49):
what you know, now, what is her agenda? Like, what
do you think her agenda is when she's waiting to
interview him? Like is she really going to do a
real interview or is she going to like right with
that type of feeling in her heart that that's how
she feels about the dude. I mean I would be
hurt by that as well. If I'm a person that
goes out of my way, which I do, I go
(26:10):
out of my way to be polite. I'm I take
the time to address people, not hostile at all. But
if you look at the way I played, it's everything
but polite. It's very hostile, it's very aggressive, it's very valient,
and I feel like a lot of times it was
(26:31):
easy to judge or make make inaccurate judgments of who
I am as a person based off of the way
I did things on the football field, and that's not
who I am as a person. I'm in character when
I go out there. I've always said this, if it's
one thing that I've always understood about playing sports, I'm
(26:51):
competing as hard as I can, but I also know
that it's a show. I'm going out there to perform,
and so to me, there's the there's the aspect of
understanding the game as a competitor and how you prepare
for it, but it's also the idea of understanding that
it's a show as well, Like this is a production,
this is a produced reality show. And so to me,
(27:16):
if I'm in character and you're judging me based off
of the character that you she on the field, not
not judging the content of my character, Like she was
taking personal shots at him, that wasn't that wasn't based
off of it didn't sound like it was based off
of real knowledge, real real interaction, And that to me,
(27:37):
I mean I would have been bothered by that too,
because I'm like, these are the people who are covering me,
these are the stories that are being written about me,
and you know, general perception to the to the masses are.
If somebody writes an article and they're writing it with
with I guess that type of preconceived notion, and that
gets out that's written and that's published, who's ever that
(28:00):
they may believe the tone of what it is that
that person is writing about.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, this, I mean, this is a hot mic. It
wasn't even an article. There was no deep did.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
I understand that? But what I'm saying is no hot mike.
You don't know that that's how this person that's writing
this article is feeling about that player in particular, and
they write an article, well, I.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Guess the question and his statement doesn't answer this, which,
in my if I was in his shoes, I directly
address the person and said, why do you feel that way? Like,
name one instance where this was the case, and I
would be curious. Yeah, I would be indeed to know.
It's just it's really odd when you hear someone say
(28:40):
something like that, as if you get the sense they
have a one on one experience where that must have happened,
that's what you think at least, And so if it
didn't happen or she embellished, yeah, she's the wrong. I mean,
you said it yesterday, LeVar, Like she should be held
accountable like anyone else. There should be a double standard
for someone fabricating something or embellishing something and then making
(29:02):
someone else look batter, especially when that's their profession. So
I'm more curious as to what actually took place to
make her say that, because she didn't really address it
after all this other than apologize, and Diggs didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Say anything either about it.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
So again, to me, the greater story is there was
discernomentter on happiness in the offseason, the way the season
last year, like there's just always something. I mean, the
way he got out of Minnesota, there's always something. And
that's that's more of the issue I think with the Bills,
the way they played Week one, the way that division looks.
(29:41):
Maybe it's the laser now that the Jets aren't as
much of a contender, but I just there's something going
on there with Diggs aside from the whole story with
the hot bike, there's something else going on.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, I agree with that. I wonder what she looks like.
I wonder does anybody know what she looks like? Steady
Jonas can find that.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Hard well, we will effort that during the break here.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
I wonder if she looks like the editor that was
in London. I just does she look like the one
that Brett fav was text messaging? I mean, I just
wonder sometimes that plays a part well these stories as well.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think it's most important that the Bills look like
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Speaker 9 (32:10):
Labo more than everybody LeVar, guys, in case you missed it,
The NFL is targeting.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
A new country.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
R NFL is.
Speaker 9 (32:23):
Targeting a new country for an an international game in
twenty twenty four, that country being Spain. They're targeting Madrid.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Notably two different stadiums, either the stadium that holds Atletico Madrid,
which is a natural grass field, or another field that's
a hybrid grass field. Uh there in Madrid as well.
So Real Madrid's team excuse.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Me pretty much, Hey, guys, Lee, I was so peaceful.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I just I just hope they give those players some
time to enjoy the the sights and scenes of Spain
while they're out there. That's all I have it for,
because I've heard that it is. There's a lot to
look at.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
You want to know. I dislocated my pinky in Spain
because of her. That Yeah, saw saw someone's sunbathing, and
it was very impressive to me. So I started doing
my impressed the person that I was hoping was looking
at me run. I got into the water. I felt
the water get all the way up to my knee.
(33:31):
I thought it was deep enough to take a dive,
like a smooth dive into the the ocean. What, yeah,
this is true story, man, that's your move. I mean
I was like what I was fourteen? I was fourteen.
You like, you run in the water, then you dive
into it and you're just a pop up. I was
(33:52):
almost to the water when when I saw.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It LaVar Hasselhoff.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yeah, yeah, a baby as that. I mean, I had
a decent little body at fourteen too, and I looked
like I was a little bit older than what I was.
And that lady that caught my eye and and and
you know, tingled my fancy. I got to say, was
very very very impressive to me. And so that's what
I did, and I dove into this ocean. I think
(34:16):
it was the Mediterranean Sea. I believe and I hit
my finger into the into the sand, just located my finger.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Did you play? Play it off? When he got up,
and well.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Nobody knew that I did it. I just pulled it
and put it back in and just kept it moving like, oh, well,
you know that was real smooth A How bad did that?
Things swell up? It was a little stiff, and I
was there to play basketball, so I was buddy.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
That's all. Well, you know it didn't affect my illness.
Gets your head out of the gutter. I was still
able to handle the ball that is on the four.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
YEA love some spa in all day?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Have you been this faan? Nope, So you're just.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, I just based that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I haven't heard that that much. Buddy, get some you
get some bad information.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
No, Sam, you've been there. I was there in twenty eighteen.
Jonas is spot on. Things look all right, Things look
very nice. Not just talking about the castles either.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I have a friend, guy looks at a cornfield the
same way.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Hi yield. Get a load of that silo husk that.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Guys.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Alabama is gearing up for a trip to Tampa to
take on USF. Ahead of that, the football players were
fed alligator in a themed themed meal, problem, of course,
being that USF does not the home of the Gators
as Florida is they are the home of bulls. Would
have been a lot more fitting if they served them,
you know, beef or something of the sort. But yeah,
(36:05):
there's pictures online of a whole gator just sitting on
a slab being served up.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Okay, okay, hold on for a second. Do we know
for sure that they were like sending a message and
that was like a theme thing or were they just
having some gator?
Speaker 9 (36:20):
What social media teams kind of went with was the
themes like, hey, here's some gator for our trip to Florida.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Yeah, damn, so Bama's what two and two now took
two hells in the past week.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Just imagine what they're eating if they were playing South Carolina.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
You know, I just had some gator at Chicken the
airport in Dallas the other day.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
You at airport Gator?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Yeah? I was at Yeah, what's the big? What's the big?
What's the super popular restaurant in Dallas?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
McDonald's.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
What is it?
Speaker 12 (36:56):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Papa Papa does there? You got new Papa do up? Though,
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