September 15, 2023 • 49 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and the guys recap the Eagles win over the Vikings and debate the “fumble through the endzone” rule. Colorado State HC Jay Norvell decided to hand deliver bulletin board material to Deion Sanders and the Buffs. And Cowboys EVP Stephen Jonas publicly backs Dak Prescott but some aren’t buying it.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arias and Brady Quinn and Jonas knocks
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey guys, how are we feeling? Good morning, fun, little
Friday morning here on the program?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wonderful?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Are we feeling? Everybody fired up?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Fired up?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Everybody? Good to go? Brady Quinn, good to go? No,
what we know, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Do not.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well? I mean, I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Just relaxing, play that song.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Some of us have to like take off our headphones
and walk around for a bit just to calm down
after this awful songs you just want to do That's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Did you just want to lift everything up around you?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Just may get you all jacked, if.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Only if there's like a better song for a day
like today.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, no, kidd.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So disruptive sometimes.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Definitely, But let me tell you what is not disruptive?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
What's not disruptive?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
What's not disrupting in the mood for a weekend filled
with football and that's a football Friday?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Come on, really know so much better?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Light Eddie Garci and Justin Cooper going double barrel thumps down.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yeah, Sam, cut it man, Let's let's go real man,
there we go.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Night.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Come on football Friday, Eagles head stopping, Come on, come
on football Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It is it is a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
All that play they down lots. It's too successful.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I don't know why you don't run it every single play.
If you can get three yards on every single play,
it is fourth and one every single time, Like why
not just do it?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
All?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So so you you don't mind the As we were
having the conversation this Eagles, what do they call it?
The the toush push? Is that what they're calling that? Now?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is it the touch push?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What it is?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's what you're calling it?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, I don't know that. I got that from somebody.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I call it the grave diggers push. Boy, them them
old lineman up front, they be getting low and they
be they be digging. It's like they sticking the shovels
in the ground and they digging you eventually, right, I
don't know. I don't know that you get hurt. I
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think the only person that could probably get is the QB.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
What Sam, is that your grave digger traw again? Let
the dirt just shower over.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You need help?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
And that was Minnesota's defensive front. That was Minnesota's defensive front.
Every single time. Them dudes lined up in that formation
and ran that play every time.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
What are you doing? Very nothing they can to stop it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, did they actually seriously take a look at
it this offseason and decide whether or not they were
gonna eliminate it or no?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Because they don't care.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
You know, they've gotten better at it though, Like it's evolved,
like they create like a spear, like it's it's I
don't know, I know, I know guys don't like it,
but it's kind of impressive to watch them root them
dudes up out of there like that, Like them those
linemen doing that is that's pretty d I know. Them
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dudes feel so empowered when they run that play, like
like man, get up out of the club, man, like
we got our QB. He's right here, We're going right there.
You can't stop us. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Does anybody else use it?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Not like that?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I ain't never seen it like that. I've seen this,
I've seen the keeper, I've seen the sneak. I ain't
never seen o lineman get down spare themselves. That's what
it looks like to me, Like you're sparing yourselves into
like as low as you can underneath the DP. You're
not chopped blocking, You're you're scrumming. It's like it's like rugby.
(04:43):
You're in a scrub by the.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Way the bar, it sounds less and less safe the
more you describe it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Hey, bro, football isn't safe.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I've tried to say this for a while now. Yeah,
the same way is it's this is like a rugby play.
It is a rugby play. A rugby play it is.
It's a scrum, That's what it is. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Listen, the rules are the rules.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Whatever they do with it, whether they say it's they
outlaw because it isn't safe or whatever, the fact that
they're using it right now, like it works, like it's effective.
Like what was one hundred percent success rate? They did not.
It was not even a question of if they were
going to run it, and it was not even a
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question of if Minnesota was going to stop it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I don't know, Man, I run that as every play
if I was if I'm Philadelphia, I'll run it every
play if I can run it. They seem to love
to do it, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I more had an issue with and by the congratulations
of the Philadelphia Eagles, they are to and oho to
start off the season. Minnesota's got the got the Jeff
Simms bug. They just can't help but turn the ball over.
Apparently that's that's their move there with the Vikings this year.
I think the conversation is about the same conversation we
have at least two three times a year, which is,
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what's it going to take for them to get rid
of the fumbling the ball out of the end zone?
Forget forget the tush push or whatever the Eagles are doing.
What the hell is it going to take for them
to recognize that an offensive player fumbling the ball out
of the end zone shouldn't result in not only a
twenty yard loss, but a twenty yard gain for the
other team. I don't get it none.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It can someone explained to me the origin of the rule.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't. I don't know. I really like nothing about
it makes that would help.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I just feel like if you know how something starts,
usually you know it helps you have an understanding of
why it is the way.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It is, right, Yeah, and we can't even get that answer.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I just think that if if you are careless enough
to fumble the ball out of the end zone. You
have disqualified. You're right to have the ball anymore. Give
it to the other team, and it's a touchback. That's
whoever came out what it probably was like. If they
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fumble the ball out of the end zone, they lose
the ball. You lose the ball, and it's a touchback. Like,
I don't know, if you fumble it, what do you
like if you fumble it out of the end zone?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What what should the recourse be?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Touch back?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Get the ball right back where you started.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Now, no touchback, you go back to the twenty. I mean,
I think that's punitive enough. You shouldn't lose possession, especially
when the other team doesn't recover the ball. None of
it makes sense. It's like you're spotting twenty yards and
the football for what, I don't know. We just happen
to be on the.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Other table, bounce in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, but what but they didn't recover it.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It just like none of it. And for some reason,
Lee to lap is a defender of the rule. Lee
on this hill absolutely because you force the fumble. It's
your own end zone. It's not there, and no one,
no no, no, yes, yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They didn't really force a fumble. You're well, you're with
the times when.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Okay, there's times when when players literally just have the
ball come out of their hand, has nothing to do
with the defender.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
But that's not always the case, right, Sometimes you are
forcing the fumble of a guy who's being careless.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So now we're making a subjective to whether we're making
it subjective to whether the defensive player did anything.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Hold on, here's the thing. There's only one choice.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
It's Team Brady.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yes, awful, it's the.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Dumbest for How about we solve it?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
How about we solve it right here? Any any fumble
out of bounds should change possessions.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Oh jesus, he just made it worse. Come on, Lee,
are you drunk? You fumbled the ball.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
You're the one who lost the ball. Why should I
reward you. Next thing we're gonna do is catapult guys
into the end zone like cheerleaders. We're already doing.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
The How about any complete pass change you order stand?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Do you understand what a slippery slip that is like
for our society.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm just going to start.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Giving things.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Going, just trying to prove a point that you don't
get rewarded for being careless with the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's not when I die zone.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
When I die, let me let me give you my
four oh one k just because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I mean, you deserve it. You don't do anything to
earn it, but you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right, Yeah, you fumble out of the coffin, Lee, get
your four o one k. I didn't.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
The only argument I see is that you can change
where the ball is placed if you fumble it at
the one.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Here's the argument, Lee, in in what world do we
have a penalty where not only do you lose possession,
but you lose twenty yards?
Speaker 6 (09:41):
That's what That's what I will all concede is that
you could put the ball where the ball was fumbled
from not making it up.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Which makes sense.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
But you you fumble it through your own end zone,
it's going to be two points.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
There's a penalty for true.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
That's true. Now that that's true. If you fumble it
in your own end zone, that's that's a safe, thank you,
That is a safety two points though you don't even
get yards out of it. They give another possession, but
you're not giving them points if they if they fumble
it out of the opposite like you're going in the score.
You fumble it through the end zone. You're not, like,
what do you do? What is the solution to it?
(10:16):
You say, go back to the twenty, like it's a
touch back to the twenty.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
And by the way, why should you be why should
the offense be rewarded? Now that we're here, let's just
talk about this. Why wouldn't you just why would it
be a safety for two points? Why would it be
a touchdown for the defense?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Like, if we're really examining the rules of this particular play,
like since Lee just brought this up, make it a touchdown?
If a quarterback had sacked in his own end zone,
made a touchdown for the defense, why make it two points?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, because the safety is a safety. That there's a
reason they're.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Saying that's the Problemly is a safety and safety in
your mind, which somehow you're okay with that?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah? Probably? And why is it two points six? I
just think it can easily be six.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I just think the officials want to do that walk
like an Egyptian sign over their head, And I think
that's why they keep the safety in the rule book.
That's the only reason why. Let me tell you something, Lee,
you and LeVar are trying to screw over the offense again.
The offense just wants more and more gimmeas the offense
can't catch a break. In this league, everything's to the defense.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think the gimmes.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, I make the rules, giving possessions to people without
them ever even earning it.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I mean, the Lewis created this as a rule. Like,
we're debating a rule that has existed for how long,
existed for how.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
There was a lot of that existed for a while,
LeVar that needed to get changed. I mean, you want
to go there.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'm just saying, brother like, like, there's a lot of
things I mean to f and Shay like to say.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
On that one.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I mean, you you're you're one hundred correct. There's no
debating that one right there. But I'll just say, in
the world of football, the rule has been the rule
for a really, really long time. I'm just saying, like,
y'all shouldn't be attacking Lee over a rule that has
been played for really, really good which is, by the.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Way, hasn't been changed.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
We just attacked the Lee for saying that any fumble
should be a change now I did not go with
Lee on that one.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I had Lee's back and was supported.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Argument by everybody is that, well, doesn't it work anywhere
else in the field. The field no man's land is
not the same as the end zone. That's why the
end zone is a sacred thing. The goal line goes
on forever, right all around the globe and back to
the other side.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It doesn't you talk.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Goal line goes there's there's a sideline that it meets
and that's the end of the What are you talking.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
About, By the way, I don't think dan Orlowski got
his career the goal the coal line ended. You know,
he ran out of bound. That's me.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
What quarterback was that, Gus farrad or a shooler that
that realized that the end zone ends as well. And
then there's a wall and then that's where the frogs
are run into it. Knock yourself out and yeah, concussion.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think we've just established if you were on the
side of let's keep the rule as is to where
when you fumble the ball out of the end zone
you lose twenty yards and possession even though the other
team didn't recover it. You deserve to be thrown in
a wood chipper, and I think that's a fair punishment
for everybody here, all right. So it's just an awful
rule that's never made sense.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And for some reason I address this is this is peak,
like vikings peak, Kirk Cousins haters. Some I saw some
guy post on Twitter, well, if Kirk Cousins would have
thrown a better ball, they wouldn't have made worry about that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Kirk Cousins said that a serious Kirk Cousins, You serious, Okay,
listen to this. Kirk Cousins, because he's a decent person,
took one for the league and tried to be accountable
for this.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Terrible, terrible league.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, took one for the league. Listen, listen to Kirk
Cousins here, mister nice guy, mister reputation trying to change
after the quarterback on Netflix. And I swear to God,
we've got is Kirk Cousins. Sound you doubt us here
on this show? You are full of crap. Listen to
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I'm gonna be hard on myself, right, I'm gonna say,
look that ball, you shouldn't have stopped him. You know, the
ball stops him.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So we have to go up and get it and
has to pull through.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
What if I threw a perfect ball, what if it
hadropped right in the bucket, Maybe he runs in untouched.
So again going back to we don't even have to
have that moment. If I can throw a perfect pass
and drop it in the bucket to him, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Don't be a doormat.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
That'll be ten dollars. You know what was interesting? Do
you see how much duress he was under the entire game?
Go back and look at the pocket you through from
that one.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah, man, that d line is I mean, why aren't
people scratched? Like you gotta be scratching your head and saying,
how do you not take on the approach of Howie
Roseman and Nick Sirianni, Like, how do you not build
your teamraft Georgia?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I mean their defensive front and their offensive front are there.
I mean, that's as impressive as it gets. It's gonna
be hard to deal with them, man, four quarters. It's
gonna be hard to deal with them boys.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
You also, though, had a backup center, and then you
had apparently a backup left tackle that was quite possibly
worse than the first and third.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
String left tackle, and you know who got hurt. I
hope he's all right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But Christ Perry did a better job than Udo did.
Obviously Darisol was out.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So yeah, tough night for Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
The one thing we do know is it wasn't Eagles win.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think it was a push as far as the
final spread.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You go figure the word push is the theme of
the Philadelphia Eagles though.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, but who won? Lee? Sam? Do we have
that sound? Can we play that? What?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
What did you say? L?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
G L yes.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
E S E L Hey, lady, lady, you're reading an
I chart, not the name of your team. Do you
guys remember this? T hey? You know what hard man?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
J E T.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
E T E Wow listen, you know it happens.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
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Speaker 2 (16:54):
So for those that don't know Boulder's favorite renners, Big
newon Kickoff are back in Colorado for the Lil Wayne
concert that will turn into a football game later on
at night. Ye So Brady Quinn, you're in Boulder, Colorado,
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and Colorado and Dion Sanders for the first couple of
weeks with the college football season have been the talk
of college football. People are very excited about what's happened there.
There's been a lot of discussion. Well, they find themselves
in a spot where they host their in state rivals,
Colorado State, and the Buffaloes are a twenty four point
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favorite for this night game against Colorado State. And you know,
Jay Norvel, the head coach of Colorado State, decided he
was just going to speak freely on his Coaches show,
and he had this to say about what could potentially
happen on Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't care if they hear it in Boulder.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
I told them I took my hat off and I
took my glasses off, and I said, when I talked
to growing ups, I take my hat and my glasses off.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That's what my mother talks.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
So you know they're not gonna like us. No matter
what we say or do, doesn't matter. Okay, so let's
go up there and play.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You get him, Jay, You get him, all right.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Man, Colorado's gonna hang like seventy points on them.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean Deon Sanders for real, like this ugly ugly
Deon Sanders. Did hear the comments? By the way, and
uh Dion, in talking with this team of practice, had
the following to say, I'm.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
Matter of my own business, watching some film, trying to
get ready, trying to get out of here and be
the best coachack of be and I look up and
I reasonable junk the damn saying about us once again?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Why would you want to talk about us? We don't
talk about no better.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
All we do is go out here, burkout but self
and do I jabot say.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
But when they give us ammunition, it was just gonna
be a good game, and the damn mess around and
made it. It was gonna be a right it's a
battle of Colorado, but they'll mess round and made it so.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That courtesy of wall Off Media, which I believe is
is that Deon Sanders Sons Media Company or whatever that's.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Off well off well well well off, yeah, well off whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I don't know how you.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Definite well off well yeah, well that's what I thought.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Jonas is the king of somehow butchering that list.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I can't believe Sam racist on that one, Like what
do you mean, it's like, that's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Well, he can't be he can't be well off Jonas.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I mean, whatever you want, racist, get a better name.
The name stinks, So it's not my problem. Point the
finger out the thumb.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I do believe that's Dion Jr. That is his name.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, point is Bucky there? Twenty four point favorites punching
down Bucky Bucky Larson's.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Who that's I think de named even to call him Bucky,
the call him Bucky, call him Bucky.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I just like, what's the point of Jay Norvell saying this?
Because Okay, like that's how you were raised. Maybe everyone
was wasn't wasn't raised that way? Like truth be told,
That's how I was raised. What does that matter with
the with the football game? Like, what does that matter? Well,
you should know better as a head coach not to
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give people bulletin boar material, especially as over a three
touchdown underdog.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's just I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And look, part of it's SU's gonna make everything into
some sort of motivation. They'll do it next week with Oregon.
Trust me, I'm predicting it.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
You'll see clips of Dan Lanning saying, well, what would
cold to ever do for the Pac twelve. I don't
remember them winning anything. He said that this offseason, went
to the Pac twelve, you know, decided they were moving
to the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He said that, then Oregon decided to move to Big ten.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But beside the point, there's always gonna be some sort
of bullet of war material motivation factor, so things can
be personal, like that's part of the game. I just
don't understand why Jay Norvell would invite this, Like, I
really do believe Colorado is gonna score seventy points.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I listen, I know Scrappy, I know, I know. Jay's
his brother. Super cool dude, shouts out to the crush. Wait,
Scrapy's younger brother. Yeah, you probably know he played. He
was a linebacker. I think he was a linebacker in
the ten. As a matter of fact, he's an actor.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Is he out in La? Yeah, he's out in La. Yeah,
I've met Hi've run into him a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Good dude, too, good dude, and and and listen, I
don't know what his motivation is.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Bye. By putting it out there the way that he
did it, it is.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Interesting to me anytime I see kind of like, again,
we had this conversation earlier like personal attacks, you know,
was it a was it a continued theme of something
that he had put out in front of his his team,
like we're gonna we're gonna teach these guys some manners
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or something. I don't know what he's doing, but I
would assume, in whatever regard that he presented it, in
whatever way that he did it, he is trying to
create motivation for his his team in some way.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think it's a tremendous miss.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
But I think you should keep it really dialed in
and focused in on trying to be the one that
stops the juggernaut or or kind of knocks off the
you know, cools off the storyline that's that's developing. Like,
I think that would be more of my you know,
in my estimation, the proper approach, you know, but saying
(23:00):
I took my I mean, but then to that point,
you know, gentlemen take their like that's what it's perceived, right,
Like historically speaking, a gentleman takes his hat off, Uh,
he takes his glasses off, He addresses people from a
manly perspective. Maybe he was uh challenging the manhood of prime.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I don't really know, but whatever it was, I would
have to assume as a head coach and someone who's
been in the coaching game for a while, there was
some type of mental connection to it or emotional connection
to it to his team. As to why he did that,
that might have been his theme, like we're gonna grown, man.
These these dudes like they're they're divas, they're they're they're not.
(23:41):
You ain't gonna do anything. I would have you know.
I went against you last week with with my bro
and arms, my comrade, my my letterman alumni Matt Ruhle,
I went against you, But this week I will not.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't. I don't see them having what it takes.
The score'd be seventy to ten.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean probably a closer game in Champagne
between Penn State and Illinois.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It probably will be. We won't beat them by that many.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I'm just saying, like, if you know, maybe maybe even
like a better atmosphere, but again.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Not trying to know that it'll be a better atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, I mean with kick off, with kickoff, you know,
right around the corner and not eleven hours away or
if whatever it is, you know, I feel like it
might be might be a better, better setup. But listen,
Deon Sanders has got to get used to the fact
that some people find Colorado and all this hype obnoxious,
and so I'm team Norbel here. You don't like the
fact that he wears his glasses and his hat when
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he talks to people. Yeah, good for j Norvel. I'm
team Colorado State here, And you know what, I'll gladly
take those twenty four points. What do you think about that,
Brady Quinn? I'll take those twenty four right now, and
I will.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Give you those twenty four points, and then I will
call you as soon as the game's done to tell
you you're a moron.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I mean, but is this good for college football? A
little bit of trash talk over something so stupid? His
hats and sunglasses and these are storylines?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
LaVar, LaVar? Is it good? Do you think it's good
as a storyline?
Speaker 5 (25:13):
I mean, I think it's it's circus worthy, To be honest,
I don't. I mean it's it's the story of Colorado
is good because they were irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Obviously, he's already doubled their win total from last year.
He's one of the greatest athletes of all time, one
of the most decorated athletes of all time.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Novel. Yeah, yeah, so I think.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
That it's a it has it definitely has its legs
to be what what it's become. Like, it's a It's
a movie, like I said, Like if he continues to win,
it's a movie, Like, no doubt about it, one hundred percent.
Somebody's writing the script. They're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Off will probably do do the rights to the movie.
It's a movie. And and so I mean, is it
great for college sports? Yeah, I mean everybody loves a story,
you know. Everybody loves a triumph, everybody loves a comeback,
Everybody loves an underdog, whatever it may be. So that's
what makes sports so awesome is that it can run
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the entire spectrum of what what you are looking for.
Some people want to see the overachievers. Some people want
to see the arrogant dude that's on top, you know,
like Brian Bosworth is one of the coolest stories that
that you could see in college. Right, everybody loved the boss,
but they love to hate the boss, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Because he was.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
He was like a front runner, like the dude gas
who cares like he had his mohawk, he had the
colors on the side.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Is that confirmed by the way he was on the gas.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think so. I think I think he almost positive almost, I.
Speaker 11 (26:50):
Think he did. First off, how do you know he
pissed home? Like, were you the inspector? I mean, LeVar
Jonas kind of looks like he could have.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Been one of those.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
He does look like he could have been a hold sir,
let me see what you got.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Hey, hey, hey, Pasnkles.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Can you confirm that that Bo's words didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh my gosh, crack, don't you man?
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I love And by the way, if I recall correctly,
and I just want to throw this out here, and
I don't, I could be incorrect and I was looking
for it when I saw the comments take place. But
Coach Bowden used to always have his his straw hat on,
his straw fsu hat on and was known for having
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different color uh sunglasses if anything? Did it quite a bit?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
No, you're right, and he had those. They were like
the wrap around like.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Uh, it's like they're really popular now. Seven on seven
the the like the glass as he wore back then.
But I mean, I just think that it's convenient for
people to take pop shots at Dion because I mean,
you tell me, Q. But it's almost like people are
having a hard time, which there are a time.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I think Norvo was a former player too.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, but I think people are having a hard time,
like comprehending that Dion isn't a character, this fictitious character.
They're they're actually struggling to comprehend that the dude is
actually well thought out, well planned out, well structured, and
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he's executing.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They're bitter he's getting all the attention and all the shine.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's the attention. I
think it's the shine. It could be jealousy, it could
be some of that. It could be how look, some
of the games have gone. I mean, you couldn't have
asked for for worth that game to go any better
for us, right, I mean two red zone interceptions.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Put it this way.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I don't think TCU had a red zone interception all
last year. They threw two in one game to kick
off the season, Like just improbable stuff. I mean, Nebraska
couldn't get a shotgun snap they could not catch a shotgun,
snap just fell apart, styming.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Drives and all that.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I think there's just I think there's some skepticism still
with people out there where they really I mean, this week.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You know, Colorado will win.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
But when I talk to people that are like, yeah,
well we'll see when they get the Oregon and USC
and it's like, well, yeah, but you can still celebrate
what they're doing now. Yeah, this is over one win
football team a year ago, like this is That's.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Like, but don't you feel like that this is what
that's setting up for, Like it's like, just wait till
they lose. It's like, but what about them winning? They're winning?
Like they're winning. Yeah, that's what That's why. That's why
I just kind of said, I mean they lose.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Like does that I mean?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
But because I think as many people that there are
out there that are rooting for CU and Prime to win,
there are also people who are rooting for them to
lose because they don't like the way in which he's
doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I do think there's both like the ratings and the
and the attention and drama. I think they are not
just all fans. I think they're people who are looking
for a guy to lose like and by the way,
that happens no matter who you are, when you're as
great as Dianna is, or you're Lebron or you're whoever
else that's up in that arena, you get a fair
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amount of people who are watching because they want to
see you lose. They don't want to see them succeed.
Floyd Mayweather another great example. I mean it's great, that's
just the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I mean that's why a lot of people watch Tyson
like is he going Is this the one where he loses?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Like, well, I just think they want to I never
saw that knock out. I think people just wanted to
see whether or not Tyson could remove somebody's jaw from
their face.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
That was imagine if he lost, Like I can remember
where I would see sitting the exact place I was
sitting for Buster Douglas knocked him out.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Man, Why did Buster look so good in that match?
That's the best he ever looked.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
His look his mom had just died, and he got
totally focused. He was really close to his mom, and
that was the one camp that he got really really
focused on and really disciplined and you know, the the
long the long count on the knockdown probably helped him
out as well to But you know.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He looked as good as he ever looked.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I mean, I don't know what we made this the
many time, but I mean I mean Tyson had the
kryptonite going at that time too, though, you know what
I mean. You know what her name Robin Robin give Yeah,
I mean she was beautiful, but she's drugg disaster. And
she had him. She had him a little bit. You know,
they had him, they had him medicated. You know, they
had him, They had him a little off. You all
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remember to the interview he did. I remember the interview
had him totally sedated. Man, I'm like, does he know
where he's at right now?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
No, he did it, And I don't think he looked
over there either, Like weekend at Bernie's. You know, it's
just kind of floating around just there. He's a prompt.
He was on remote control or something, man like. I
don't know, I don't know. I just again, I don't
know why these coaches. I don't know why they do it.
I really don't know why they do it. I don't
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know how that's helping your team or what that's going
to do or serve by giving another team bulletim bore
material that's a over three touchdown favorite and you're going
to their house and they're about to whoop your butt.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I know I'm going to watch.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Okay, good man, I'm glad you're watching it.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I might not have watched it otherwise. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
There might have been a better game going on at
that time slot, but I'm going to watch this game.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I thought you guys were doing dinner. You figured that out.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I think it's Florida. Florida Tennessee is going on around
that time. We are doing dinner Saturday. Yeah, yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
You think some of the places that Lee and I
were throwing out are going to have the Colorado Colorado.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
St I'm probably going to have to go to that
one that Lea said, it is just all it gets
a sports Who's all doing dinner?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Trish Meliatrician.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
The kids are going to Universal for this, like you know,
fright Night or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Deal.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
That's Lee and I were trying to sell them on
this ready September. He's got singing waiters. It's a nice
little Italian spot's got singing Waiters.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I'm out on Lee right now. Lee taking his hard
stance on a terrible football roll.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
I will die on that hill.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
That's a weird hill to die on. Man.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I'm still trying to figure out what Lee was showing
us in the glass last night that he caught.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't know that he put tequila on top of it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Dang out.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I found a get go right for DeAndre Swift can
touch it. I'm calling him Swifty.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Huh, So you're he's your pet mouse?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
No, I put him in. I put him in the
planter outside. Oh, I felt bad about it.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Throw me in a made you think like, hey, this
is content these guys would want to see.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Was like, oh, let me shire with the guys. You
know they want to see this.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Which didn't want to see the get Going cut during
the game.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Lest I honestly didn't know what it was. The picture
was awful quality.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
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your podcast. Week two in the NFL is already underway.
You've got the Philadelphia Eagles a big winner last night
at home over the Minnesota Vikings. Thoughts and pray, What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
How do you say that Eagles?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It seems to me.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
E L G no Birds, l g L Eagles.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's too good. Although I feel like if I was
banged up, I could probably still spell Eagles. So yeah,
there's no there's no real excuse there for that woman.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
But I had a great extension to what you said,
Q just now. But I do represent the entire state
of Pennsylvania, So I don't want to offend anybody. A
great extension of what you said.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I won't I won't come on.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Why not? No, put it back in the holster.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
It never came out. It never came out. But I
had my hand I put my hand on on on
Uh what is that called the trigger? The grip. I
didn't put it. I didn't put it on the trigger.
I ain't get to the trigger. I just I just
put it on like the handle. Yeah, that's it. I
got a hold of the handle.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, okay, there we go.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, I won't say it, but it was a good
kid tickle us like that than not actually say that's sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I feel like the Pillsbury doughboy.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You're just that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Come on this car.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, let's go. Let's keep going on. It's over now.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's over now. We do have to say congratulations to
Justin Jefferson another Monster game last night. Congratulations pretty historic
too that What else was he able to accompliper unders
on that game? I'm not sure? Oh yeah we did, Yeah,
we did.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Do we want to talk about it? Who won?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
That?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
We'll do next week before we next week, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Next week, we do.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
We would do it for the last segment, but we've
got you in and you're out, and really we just
talking about birthdays.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Birthdays. Yeah, big time, big birthday shout out. But congratulations
again to Justin Jefferson. Round of applause as he accomplished
something very difficult task. He is already after last night's performance.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's amazing, got.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
More receiving yards than any Bears receiver in the history
of the franchise.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Oh wow, career receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yes, career yeah, is so congress He's no, he's twenty
four years old and it only took him, you know,
a couple of armpit farts in the league to outdo
any Bears receiver in the history of their franchise. Which
I ought to tell you exactly why what I said
earlier this week needs to happen. The Bears should be
move to the CFL until they can prove that they
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can put together some sort of a decent football team
over the last twenty plus years. That's it, and that's
all it is.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I was writting an article today this morning talking about
just how the clock's ticking on Justin fields like, Okay,
I'm like, look, if you're gonna be frustrated by a
couple of his misthrows. He's still a young player in
this league. There's some place he makes with his legs
that not many can maybe lamar, or maybe there's a
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couple ers that can make some of.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Those plays all the time.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
And like it was written by a former front office executive.
And what bothers me about this, and I'll continue to
pound the drum is coaches, front office members are not
going to blame themselves.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
They might say the right things publicly, behind closed doors,
they will throw that young man under the bus. And
it's absolute bs. Did it happens all the time?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Did you hear Ryan pulls the gas said? He said that, Well,
you know, we're just seventy percent of what we could
be or where we want to be. It's like, thanks
for giving us a progress report on how far away
you are from actually being a good football team. That's awesome.
That's something to tell the fan base. Yeah, we couldn't
get it all fixed in one offseason, but don't worry
about it. We got thirty percent more to go.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That works on dates too.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
So all those people out there are single, Yeah, if
it doesn't go great the first time, just tell them
that's only seventy.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Percent of Yet yeah you wait, another shows up.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
The dumbest thing I've ever heard, Because that shows up.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
It's going to show up. Believe some of these some
of these coaches just right away. Damn.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Some of these coaches and zero managers, they will outwardly
show you they have no game, like they have zero game,
like when they were single, they could not pick up
anyone or didn't know what to say. Because they say
stuff like that. You're like, what, okay, thanks, I guess
like right, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's so bad, but hey, it's awful. At least at
least that picked gonna be a wild card to you.
That was awesome. Yeah, not true at all. You know
what I am a fan of though? What Football Friday?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Come? Yeah? Updated version?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah yeah, Sam, Sam's dancing, Sam's dancing, ex playing with
this geto Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Sleep yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah. Killed that annoy and killed that noise. Squeeze it,
squeeze it. Let's go.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Oh yeah, Friday night Briday. Yeah, football Friday, that's coming.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
It is a football Friday. Here. I'm two pros and
a cup of Joe, And it doesn't matter that it's
a that it's a Friday. It doesn't matter what day
it is. As a matter of fact, because for some reason,
the Dallas Cowboys are still defending Dak Prescott, who probably
doesn't need any defending as to why they made a
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move for Trey Lance and brought him in. Let's listen
to Stephen Jones, Jay's son, Stephen Jones talking about Jerry,
Jerry's son, Jerry, I don't have We're not jacking with you, Jerry.
That's how you say your name with like a thick
Texas accent.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Jar Oh are you saying that at Jerry Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Point being for some reason Stephen Jones felt it necessary
to back Dak Prescott for no reason whatsoever, and why
they brought in Trey Lance. Let's take a.
Speaker 12 (41:54):
Listen, actually end question leader here on this football team.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
He's got rare skin.
Speaker 12 (42:00):
In that area in terms of being able to lead
the team.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (42:04):
You know, we look at Dak as a guy who's
going to be around here for many many years to come,
and just really felt like Trey Lance, uh, you know,
upgraded the room and gives us a chance of something
more to happen to Dak, you know, to stay in
the mix like other teams have done in the past.
I know Philly did it one year with Nick Foles,
and sometimes you don't get your number one gal all
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the way through through the year, and it's always nice to,
you know, improve that room.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I mean, when I think, you know, experience with Trey Lance,
the first comp I think of is Nick Foles, you know,
you know, the definitely a guy who played four starts
in his career and that's all they had to show
for it. So I mean, it's a fair comp there,
that Nick Foles comp.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
It's not like Dak Prescott lit it up in week one.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
It's not, if we're being real, Prescott lit it up
in week one.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
No, just saying like if the motivation for them coming
out and saying this still, when you see a forty
ninhering score, you're like, oh, he probably had like.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Kirk Cousins stats last night. He didn't.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I mean, there was a lot of defensive plays and
touch down like different things that kind of led to that.
So I guess maybe that's one important passing although not
only not much more than Daniel Jones was not much.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
I was about to say, only like a thirty thirty
nine more yards than Daniel Jones for as bad as
it fell.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
If you're a Giants fan, like there probably was an
element of domination for the Cowboys, but like it wasn't
like your offense was one a ton. I'm just saying,
like maybe that's where this is born out of where
someone prompted the question, like, hey, defense was dominant, but
he you know, new new, you know, Mike McCarthy call
him plays with Brian Schtttheimer's doc. Not necessarily the you know,
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most prolific performance didn't need to be. You know, they'll
have to be much better this week. But I'm just saying,
it doesn't make any sense why he would bring this
up unless he was prompted to from that performance.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Here's why Else, it doesn't make sense because they're justifying, well,
we brought in Trey Lance because you're worried something might
happen to Dak Prescott. Okay, So why'd you wait so
long in the off season to do it? Like, if
you were so worried about it, wouldn't you have been
worried earlier in the off season? Why was it Trey Lance?
This feels like Jerry Jones sees a quarterback that didn't
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work elsewhere and thinks, well, if we bring him here,
we could make him work. It feels like an ego play.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I also think they didn't know if Lance would be
the second, you know, the backup or third string.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
If Lance was the backup, I don't know that he's available,
and that really didn't present itself until right before the start.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Of the season, So it's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I mean, I look at it and think that the
timings the timing with Trey Lance specifically because of how
that all worked out with him and Sam Donald competing
for the backup spot. But to your point about just
any backup, sure, I think they want to try to
upgrade who was behind Dak, But I think as far
as Tray being on the market, that wasn't gonna take
place until he was demoted to third string.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I mean, are they the best team in the NFC
East based on what you've seen from Philadelphia and what
you've seen, No, yeah, no, I am curious.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
I am certainly.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Curious to see how they match up against one another though,
and Dallas.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You guys are gonna have to come to grips with
the fact that Dallas is winning that division.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
What does it come to grips? What do you mean.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Because you're some people think lebar Arrington's a cowboy hater.
That's what they think.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I mean, I know people think I am. I'm a
I'm a believer in their defense, and I don't hate.
I don't hate the team. I just don't trust that
their offense can get it done. I don't I don't trust,
do not trust?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Who? Do you not? Jack Prescott?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Okay, sorry, I don't trust that they can. And to
be honest with you, even more so than Dak Prescott.
This might sound unpopular. I don't trust their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Damn why?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
And I don't think like for as much as people
talk about how good they are, and then you heard
them talking about, oh, just put Tyron in his gold
jacket and all this old other stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Tyrant's always hurt. He's always hurt.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Their offensive line never makes it through, not like just
being well what the Eagles offensive line is like. They've
not lived up to that potential level. And I don't
think at this point they are.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
So I don't trust their offensive line more so than
I don't trust Dak. I don't trust their offensive line
because you can overcome some of the things that I
wouldn't trust with Dak Prescott if their offensive line were
to be able to play up to the level and
the standard that people have said that they're at and
do it at a at a consistent amount of time,
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Like I just don't.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Do you think Dak Prescott's soft for being sedated for
eleven hours while getting a leg tattoo? No, it makes
them soft because I think it makes them a genius.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
I'm planning on doing that at some point. Get the
whole back, whole leg arm front side. I'm gonna be
sedated when I do it too.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Really, what are you going to get?
Speaker 3 (47:24):
What a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
I'm just I'm going through like a pre mid life crisis,
but I've been getting back a good life crisis pre
I'm not mid yet.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I got what I got five.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
More years the other thirty I mean, just wait till
you see that thirty percent.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Damn, I'm just saying I'm an be sedated when before
you see it, you know. Yeah, It's almost like the cowboys,
though constantly create their own problems.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
How you figure.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
I mean, they're always talking about the quarterback situation or
how much you know they love one coach or someone else.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I mean, it's just I don't know. I feel like
maybe it's too much. Maybe it's just it's just the
way they are.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
They're they're open and honest, and they kind of talk
and don't give much thoughts to what they're saying and
how it may impact everyone else. But I mean, there's
a reason why it's been so long since they've been
able to have that sort of Super Bowl success. And
I'm not saying I'm directly blaming on you know, Jerry Jones,
Stephen Jones, the way they've talked about the team, But
it's probably more the decisions they've made, you know, with
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the team. But I think they they create sometimes their
own distractions, kind of similar to the Colts and then
their ownership and know how that works.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I think that Super Bowl droughts ending this year for
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
They'll be back there, do you really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
In Vegas? While we're there, we'll be talking.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Man, I don't haven't winning And you picked that too.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
If you haven't won it, do you not remember our
preseason picks? Dallas won in the Super Bowl, So I
had him as a number one overall seed.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
I did the whole playoff predictor thing. You got to
do it.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
I'm telling me, I just need it to do the
selective memory last thing with this because I don't want
to trust me. I have to tell you guys at
the end of how wrong you guys were.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Trust me.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
I had the Bengals winning it, and after week one
I was like, Oh, that wasn't a good pick.
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arias and Brady Quinn and Jonas knocks
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Hey guys, how are we feeling? Good morning, fun, little
Friday morning here on the program?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Wonderful?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Are we feeling? Everybody fired up?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Fired up?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Everybody? Good to go? Brady Quinn, good to go? No,
what we know, Brady Quinn?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Do not.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well? I mean, I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Just relaxing, play that song.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Some of us have to like take off our headphones
and walk around for a bit just to calm down
after this awful songs you just want to do That's
what it was.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Did you just want to lift everything up around you?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Right?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Just may get you all jacked, if.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Only if there's like a better song for a day
like today.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, no, kidd.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So disruptive sometimes.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Definitely, But let me tell you what is not disruptive?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
What's not disruptive?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
What's not disrupting in the mood for a weekend filled
with football and that's a football Friday?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Come on, really know so much better?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Light Eddie Garci and Justin Cooper going double barrel thumps down.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Yeah, Sam, cut it man, Let's let's go real man,
there we go.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Night.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Come on football Friday, Eagles head stopping, Come on, come
on football Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
It is it is a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
All that play they down lots. It's too successful.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I don't know why you don't run it every single play.
If you can get three yards on every single play,
it is fourth and one every single time, Like why
not just do it?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
All?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
So so you you don't mind the As we were
having the conversation this Eagles, what do they call it?
The the toush push? Is that what they're calling that? Now?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Is it the touch push?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What it is?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's what you're calling it?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yes, I don't know that. I got that from somebody.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I call it the grave diggers push. Boy, them them
old lineman up front, they be getting low and they
be they be digging. It's like they sticking the shovels
in the ground and they digging you eventually, right, I
don't know. I don't know that you get hurt. I
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think the only person that could probably get is the QB.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
What Sam, is that your grave digger traw again? Let
the dirt just shower over.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You need help?
Speaker 5 (03:18):
And that was Minnesota's defensive front. That was Minnesota's defensive front.
Every single time. Them dudes lined up in that formation
and ran that play every time.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
What are you doing? Very nothing they can to stop it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, did they actually seriously take a look at
it this offseason and decide whether or not they were
gonna eliminate it or no?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Because they don't care.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
You know, they've gotten better at it though, Like it's evolved,
like they create like a spear, like it's it's I
don't know, I know, I know guys don't like it,
but it's kind of impressive to watch them root them
dudes up out of there like that, Like them those
linemen doing that is that's pretty d I know. Them
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dudes feel so empowered when they run that play, like
like man, get up out of the club, man, like
we got our QB. He's right here, We're going right there.
You can't stop us. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Does anybody else use it?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Not like that?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I ain't never seen it like that. I've seen this,
I've seen the keeper, I've seen the sneak. I ain't
never seen o lineman get down spare themselves. That's what
it looks like to me, Like you're sparing yourselves into
like as low as you can underneath the DP. You're
not chopped blocking, You're you're scrumming. It's like it's like rugby.
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You're in a scrub by the.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Way the bar, it sounds less and less safe the
more you describe it.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Hey, bro, football isn't safe.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I've tried to say this for a while now. Yeah,
the same way is it's this is like a rugby play.
It is a rugby play. A rugby play it is.
It's a scrum, That's what it is. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Listen, the rules are the rules.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Whatever they do with it, whether they say it's they
outlaw because it isn't safe or whatever, the fact that
they're using it right now, like it works, like it's effective.
Like what was one hundred percent success rate? They did not.
It was not even a question of if they were
going to run it, and it was not even a
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question of if Minnesota was going to stop it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
I don't know, Man, I run that as every play
if I was if I'm Philadelphia, I'll run it every
play if I can run it. They seem to love
to do it, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I more had an issue with and by the congratulations
of the Philadelphia Eagles, they are to and oho to
start off the season. Minnesota's got the got the Jeff
Simms bug. They just can't help but turn the ball over.
Apparently that's that's their move there with the Vikings this year.
I think the conversation is about the same conversation we
have at least two three times a year, which is,
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what's it going to take for them to get rid
of the fumbling the ball out of the end zone?
Forget forget the tush push or whatever the Eagles are doing.
What the hell is it going to take for them
to recognize that an offensive player fumbling the ball out
of the end zone shouldn't result in not only a
twenty yard loss, but a twenty yard gain for the
other team. I don't get it none.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
It can someone explained to me the origin of the rule.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I don't. I don't know. I really like nothing about
it makes that would help.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I just feel like if you know how something starts,
usually you know it helps you have an understanding of
why it is the way.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It is, right, Yeah, and we can't even get that answer.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I just think that if if you are careless enough
to fumble the ball out of the end zone. You
have disqualified. You're right to have the ball anymore. Give
it to the other team, and it's a touchback. That's
whoever came out what it probably was like. If they
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fumble the ball out of the end zone, they lose
the ball. You lose the ball, and it's a touchback. Like,
I don't know, if you fumble it, what do you
like if you fumble it out of the end zone?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What what should the recourse be?
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Touch back?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Get the ball right back where you started.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Now, no touchback, you go back to the twenty. I mean,
I think that's punitive enough. You shouldn't lose possession, especially
when the other team doesn't recover the ball. None of
it makes sense. It's like you're spotting twenty yards and
the football for what, I don't know. We just happen
to be on the.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Other table, bounce in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, but what but they didn't recover it.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It just like none of it. And for some reason,
Lee to lap is a defender of the rule. Lee
on this hill absolutely because you force the fumble. It's
your own end zone. It's not there, and no one,
no no, no, yes, yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
They didn't really force a fumble. You're well, you're with
the times when.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Okay, there's times when when players literally just have the
ball come out of their hand, has nothing to do
with the defender.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
But that's not always the case, right, Sometimes you are
forcing the fumble of a guy who's being careless.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So now we're making a subjective to whether we're making
it subjective to whether the defensive player did anything.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Hold on, here's the thing. There's only one choice.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
It's Team Brady.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yes, awful, it's the.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Dumbest for How about we solve it?
Speaker 6 (08:39):
How about we solve it right here? Any any fumble
out of bounds should change possessions.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Oh jesus, he just made it worse. Come on, Lee,
are you drunk? You fumbled the ball.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
You're the one who lost the ball. Why should I
reward you. Next thing we're gonna do is catapult guys
into the end zone like cheerleaders. We're already doing.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
The How about any complete pass change you order stand?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Do you understand what a slippery slip that is like
for our society.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm just going to start.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Giving things.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Going, just trying to prove a point that you don't
get rewarded for being careless with the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
It's not when I die zone.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
When I die, let me let me give you my
four oh one k just because I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I mean, you deserve it. You don't do anything to
earn it, but you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Right, Yeah, you fumble out of the coffin, Lee, get
your four o one k. I didn't.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
The only argument I see is that you can change
where the ball is placed if you fumble it at
the one.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Here's the argument, Lee, in in what world do we
have a penalty where not only do you lose possession,
but you lose twenty yards?
Speaker 6 (09:41):
That's what That's what I will all concede is that
you could put the ball where the ball was fumbled
from not making it up.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Which makes sense.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
But you you fumble it through your own end zone,
it's going to be two points.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
There's a penalty for true.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
That's true. Now that that's true. If you fumble it
in your own end zone, that's that's a safe, thank you,
That is a safety two points though you don't even
get yards out of it. They give another possession, but
you're not giving them points if they if they fumble
it out of the opposite like you're going in the score.
You fumble it through the end zone. You're not, like,
what do you do? What is the solution to it?
(10:16):
You say, go back to the twenty, like it's a
touch back to the twenty.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
And by the way, why should you be why should
the offense be rewarded? Now that we're here, let's just
talk about this. Why wouldn't you just why would it
be a safety for two points? Why would it be
a touchdown for the defense?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Like, if we're really examining the rules of this particular play,
like since Lee just brought this up, make it a touchdown?
If a quarterback had sacked in his own end zone,
made a touchdown for the defense, why make it two points?
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Well, because the safety is a safety. That there's a
reason they're.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Saying that's the Problemly is a safety and safety in
your mind, which somehow you're okay with that?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah? Probably? And why is it two points six? I
just think it can easily be six.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I just think the officials want to do that walk
like an Egyptian sign over their head, And I think
that's why they keep the safety in the rule book.
That's the only reason why. Let me tell you something, Lee,
you and LeVar are trying to screw over the offense again.
The offense just wants more and more gimmeas the offense
can't catch a break. In this league, everything's to the defense.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I think the gimmes.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, I make the rules, giving possessions to people without
them ever even earning it.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I mean, the Lewis created this as a rule. Like,
we're debating a rule that has existed for how long,
existed for how.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
There was a lot of that existed for a while,
LeVar that needed to get changed. I mean, you want
to go there.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
I'm just saying, brother like, like, there's a lot of
things I mean to f and Shay like to say.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
On that one.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I mean, you you're you're one hundred correct. There's no
debating that one right there. But I'll just say, in
the world of football, the rule has been the rule
for a really, really long time. I'm just saying, like,
y'all shouldn't be attacking Lee over a rule that has
been played for really, really good which is, by the.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Way, hasn't been changed.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
We just attacked the Lee for saying that any fumble
should be a change now I did not go with
Lee on that one.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I had Lee's back and was supported.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Argument by everybody is that, well, doesn't it work anywhere
else in the field. The field no man's land is
not the same as the end zone. That's why the
end zone is a sacred thing. The goal line goes
on forever, right all around the globe and back to
the other side.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
It doesn't you talk.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Goal line goes there's there's a sideline that it meets
and that's the end of the What are you talking.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
About, By the way, I don't think dan Orlowski got
his career the goal the coal line ended. You know,
he ran out of bound. That's me.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
What quarterback was that, Gus farrad or a shooler that
that realized that the end zone ends as well. And
then there's a wall and then that's where the frogs
are run into it. Knock yourself out and yeah, concussion.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I think we've just established if you were on the
side of let's keep the rule as is to where
when you fumble the ball out of the end zone
you lose twenty yards and possession even though the other
team didn't recover it. You deserve to be thrown in
a wood chipper, and I think that's a fair punishment
for everybody here, all right. So it's just an awful
rule that's never made sense.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And for some reason I address this is this is peak,
like vikings peak, Kirk Cousins haters. Some I saw some
guy post on Twitter, well, if Kirk Cousins would have
thrown a better ball, they wouldn't have made worry about that.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Kirk Cousins said that a serious Kirk Cousins, You serious, Okay,
listen to this. Kirk Cousins, because he's a decent person,
took one for the league and tried to be accountable
for this.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Terrible, terrible league.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, took one for the league. Listen, listen to Kirk
Cousins here, mister nice guy, mister reputation trying to change
after the quarterback on Netflix. And I swear to God,
we've got is Kirk Cousins. Sound you doubt us here
on this show? You are full of crap. Listen to
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 8 (14:05):
I'm gonna be hard on myself, right, I'm gonna say,
look that ball, you shouldn't have stopped him. You know, the
ball stops him.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So we have to go up and get it and
has to pull through.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
What if I threw a perfect ball, what if it
hadropped right in the bucket, Maybe he runs in untouched.
So again going back to we don't even have to
have that moment. If I can throw a perfect pass
and drop it in the bucket to him, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Don't be a doormat.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
That'll be ten dollars. You know what was interesting? Do
you see how much duress he was under the entire game?
Go back and look at the pocket you through from
that one.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
Yeah, man, that d line is I mean, why aren't
people scratched? Like you gotta be scratching your head and saying,
how do you not take on the approach of Howie
Roseman and Nick Sirianni, Like, how do you not build
your teamraft Georgia?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (14:53):
I mean their defensive front and their offensive front are there.
I mean, that's as impressive as it gets. It's gonna
be hard to deal with them, man, four quarters. It's
gonna be hard to deal with them boys.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Man.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
You also, though, had a backup center, and then you
had apparently a backup left tackle that was quite possibly
worse than the first and third.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
String left tackle, and you know who got hurt. I
hope he's all right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
But Christ Perry did a better job than Udo did.
Obviously Darisol was out.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
So yeah, tough night for Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
The one thing we do know is it wasn't Eagles win.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I think it was a push as far as the
final spread.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
You go figure the word push is the theme of
the Philadelphia Eagles though.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah, yeah, but who won? Lee? Sam? Do we have
that sound? Can we play that? What?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
What did you say? L?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
G L yes.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
E S E L Hey, lady, lady, you're reading an
I chart, not the name of your team. Do you
guys remember this? T hey? You know what hard man?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
J E T.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
E T E Wow listen, you know it happens.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (16:48):
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Speaker 2 (16:54):
So for those that don't know Boulder's favorite renners, Big
newon Kickoff are back in Colorado for the Lil Wayne
concert that will turn into a football game later on
at night. Ye So Brady Quinn, you're in Boulder, Colorado,
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and Colorado and Dion Sanders for the first couple of
weeks with the college football season have been the talk
of college football. People are very excited about what's happened there.
There's been a lot of discussion. Well, they find themselves
in a spot where they host their in state rivals,
Colorado State, and the Buffaloes are a twenty four point
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favorite for this night game against Colorado State. And you know,
Jay Norvel, the head coach of Colorado State, decided he
was just going to speak freely on his Coaches show,
and he had this to say about what could potentially
happen on Saturday night.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I don't care if they hear it in Boulder.
Speaker 9 (17:57):
I told them I took my hat off and I
took my glasses off, and I said, when I talked
to growing ups, I take my hat and my glasses off.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
That's what my mother talks.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
So you know they're not gonna like us. No matter
what we say or do, doesn't matter. Okay, so let's
go up there and play.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You get him, Jay, You get him, all right.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Man, Colorado's gonna hang like seventy points on them.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I mean Deon Sanders for real, like this ugly ugly
Deon Sanders. Did hear the comments? By the way, and
uh Dion, in talking with this team of practice, had
the following to say, I'm.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
Matter of my own business, watching some film, trying to
get ready, trying to get out of here and be
the best coachack of be and I look up and
I reasonable junk the damn saying about us once again?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Why would you want to talk about us? We don't
talk about no better.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
All we do is go out here, burkout but self
and do I jabot say.
Speaker 10 (18:51):
But when they give us ammunition, it was just gonna
be a good game, and the damn mess around and
made it. It was gonna be a right it's a
battle of Colorado, but they'll mess round and made it so.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
That courtesy of wall Off Media, which I believe is
is that Deon Sanders Sons Media Company or whatever that's.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Off well off well well well off, yeah, well off whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
I don't know how you.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Definite well off well yeah, well that's what I thought.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Jonas is the king of somehow butchering that list.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I can't believe Sam racist on that one, Like what
do you mean, it's like, that's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Well, he can't be he can't be well off Jonas.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I mean, whatever you want, racist, get a better name.
The name stinks, So it's not my problem. Point the
finger out the thumb.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I do believe that's Dion Jr. That is his name.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, point is Bucky there? Twenty four point favorites punching
down Bucky Bucky Larson's.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Who that's I think de named even to call him Bucky,
the call him Bucky, call him Bucky.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
I just like, what's the point of Jay Norvell saying this?
Because Okay, like that's how you were raised. Maybe everyone
was wasn't wasn't raised that way? Like truth be told,
That's how I was raised. What does that matter with
the with the football game? Like, what does that matter? Well,
you should know better as a head coach not to
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give people bulletin boar material, especially as over a three
touchdown underdog.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
It's just I don't I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And look, part of it's SU's gonna make everything into
some sort of motivation. They'll do it next week with Oregon.
Trust me, I'm predicting it.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Now.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
You'll see clips of Dan Lanning saying, well, what would
cold to ever do for the Pac twelve. I don't
remember them winning anything. He said that this offseason, went
to the Pac twelve, you know, decided they were moving
to the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He said that, then Oregon decided to move to Big ten.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
But beside the point, there's always gonna be some sort
of bullet of war material motivation factor, so things can
be personal, like that's part of the game. I just
don't understand why Jay Norvell would invite this, Like, I
really do believe Colorado is gonna score seventy points.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Damn.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
I listen, I know Scrappy, I know, I know. Jay's
his brother. Super cool dude, shouts out to the crush. Wait,
Scrapy's younger brother. Yeah, you probably know he played. He
was a linebacker. I think he was a linebacker in
the ten. As a matter of fact, he's an actor.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Is he out in La? Yeah, he's out in La. Yeah,
I've met Hi've run into him a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Good dude, too, good dude, and and and listen, I
don't know what his motivation is.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Bye. By putting it out there the way that he
did it, it is.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Interesting to me anytime I see kind of like, again,
we had this conversation earlier like personal attacks, you know,
was it a was it a continued theme of something
that he had put out in front of his his team,
like we're gonna we're gonna teach these guys some manners
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or something. I don't know what he's doing, but I
would assume, in whatever regard that he presented it, in
whatever way that he did it, he is trying to
create motivation for his his team in some way.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think it's a tremendous miss.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
But I think you should keep it really dialed in
and focused in on trying to be the one that
stops the juggernaut or or kind of knocks off the
you know, cools off the storyline that's that's developing. Like,
I think that would be more of my you know,
in my estimation, the proper approach, you know, but saying
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I took my I mean, but then to that point,
you know, gentlemen take their like that's what it's perceived, right,
Like historically speaking, a gentleman takes his hat off, Uh,
he takes his glasses off, He addresses people from a
manly perspective. Maybe he was uh challenging the manhood of prime.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
I don't really know, but whatever it was, I would
have to assume as a head coach and someone who's
been in the coaching game for a while, there was
some type of mental connection to it or emotional connection
to it to his team. As to why he did that,
that might have been his theme, like we're gonna grown, man.
These these dudes like they're they're divas, they're they're they're not.
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You ain't gonna do anything. I would have you know.
I went against you last week with with my bro
and arms, my comrade, my my letterman alumni Matt Ruhle,
I went against you, But this week I will not.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I don't. I don't see them having what it takes.
The score'd be seventy to ten.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean probably a closer game in Champagne
between Penn State and Illinois.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It probably will be. We won't beat them by that many.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I'm just saying, like, if you know, maybe maybe even
like a better atmosphere, but again.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Not trying to know that it'll be a better atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, I mean with kick off, with kickoff, you know,
right around the corner and not eleven hours away or
if whatever it is, you know, I feel like it
might be might be a better, better setup. But listen,
Deon Sanders has got to get used to the fact
that some people find Colorado and all this hype obnoxious,
and so I'm team Norbel here. You don't like the
fact that he wears his glasses and his hat when
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he talks to people. Yeah, good for j Norvel. I'm
team Colorado State here, And you know what, I'll gladly
take those twenty four points. What do you think about that,
Brady Quinn? I'll take those twenty four right now, and
I will.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Give you those twenty four points, and then I will
call you as soon as the game's done to tell
you you're a moron.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I mean, but is this good for college football? A
little bit of trash talk over something so stupid? His
hats and sunglasses and these are storylines?
Speaker 3 (25:09):
LaVar, LaVar? Is it good? Do you think it's good
as a storyline?
Speaker 5 (25:13):
I mean, I think it's it's circus worthy, To be honest,
I don't. I mean it's it's the story of Colorado
is good because they were irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Obviously, he's already doubled their win total from last year.
He's one of the greatest athletes of all time, one
of the most decorated athletes of all time.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Novel. Yeah, yeah, so I think.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
That it's a it has it definitely has its legs
to be what what it's become. Like, it's a It's
a movie, like I said, Like if he continues to win,
it's a movie, Like, no doubt about it, one hundred percent.
Somebody's writing the script. They're going to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Off will probably do do the rights to the movie.
It's a movie. And and so I mean, is it
great for college sports? Yeah, I mean everybody loves a story,
you know. Everybody loves a triumph, everybody loves a comeback,
Everybody loves an underdog, whatever it may be. So that's
what makes sports so awesome is that it can run
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the entire spectrum of what what you are looking for.
Some people want to see the overachievers. Some people want
to see the arrogant dude that's on top, you know,
like Brian Bosworth is one of the coolest stories that
that you could see in college. Right, everybody loved the boss,
but they love to hate the boss, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Because he was.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
He was like a front runner, like the dude gas
who cares like he had his mohawk, he had the
colors on the side.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Is that confirmed by the way he was on the gas.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think so. I think I think he almost positive almost, I.
Speaker 11 (26:50):
Think he did. First off, how do you know he
pissed home? Like, were you the inspector? I mean, LeVar
Jonas kind of looks like he could have.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Been one of those.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
He does look like he could have been a hold sir,
let me see what you got.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Hey, hey, hey, Pasnkles.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Can you confirm that that Bo's words didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Oh my gosh, crack, don't you man?
Speaker 5 (27:22):
I love And by the way, if I recall correctly,
and I just want to throw this out here, and
I don't, I could be incorrect and I was looking
for it when I saw the comments take place. But
Coach Bowden used to always have his his straw hat on,
his straw fsu hat on and was known for having
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different color uh sunglasses if anything? Did it quite a bit?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
No, you're right, and he had those. They were like
the wrap around like.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Uh, it's like they're really popular now. Seven on seven
the the like the glass as he wore back then.
But I mean, I just think that it's convenient for
people to take pop shots at Dion because I mean,
you tell me, Q. But it's almost like people are
having a hard time, which there are a time.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I think Norvo was a former player too.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Yeah, but I think people are having a hard time,
like comprehending that Dion isn't a character, this fictitious character.
They're they're actually struggling to comprehend that the dude is
actually well thought out, well planned out, well structured, and
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he's executing.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
They're bitter he's getting all the attention and all the shine.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's the attention. I
think it's the shine. It could be jealousy, it could
be some of that. It could be how look, some
of the games have gone. I mean, you couldn't have
asked for for worth that game to go any better
for us, right, I mean two red zone interceptions.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Put it this way.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I don't think TCU had a red zone interception all
last year. They threw two in one game to kick
off the season, Like just improbable stuff. I mean, Nebraska
couldn't get a shotgun snap they could not catch a shotgun,
snap just fell apart, styming.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Drives and all that.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I think there's just I think there's some skepticism still
with people out there where they really I mean, this week.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
You know, Colorado will win.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
But when I talk to people that are like, yeah,
well we'll see when they get the Oregon and USC
and it's like, well, yeah, but you can still celebrate
what they're doing now. Yeah, this is over one win
football team a year ago, like this is That's.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Like, but don't you feel like that this is what
that's setting up for, Like it's like, just wait till
they lose. It's like, but what about them winning? They're winning?
Like they're winning. Yeah, that's what That's why. That's why
I just kind of said, I mean they lose.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Like does that I mean?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
But because I think as many people that there are
out there that are rooting for CU and Prime to win,
there are also people who are rooting for them to
lose because they don't like the way in which he's
doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
I do think there's both like the ratings and the
and the attention and drama. I think they are not
just all fans. I think they're people who are looking
for a guy to lose like and by the way,
that happens no matter who you are, when you're as
great as Dianna is, or you're Lebron or you're whoever
else that's up in that arena, you get a fair
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amount of people who are watching because they want to
see you lose. They don't want to see them succeed.
Floyd Mayweather another great example. I mean it's great, that's
just the reality of it.
Speaker 5 (30:41):
I mean that's why a lot of people watch Tyson
like is he going Is this the one where he loses?
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Like, well, I just think they want to I never
saw that knock out. I think people just wanted to
see whether or not Tyson could remove somebody's jaw from
their face.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
That was imagine if he lost, Like I can remember
where I would see sitting the exact place I was
sitting for Buster Douglas knocked him out.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Man, Why did Buster look so good in that match?
That's the best he ever looked.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
His look his mom had just died, and he got
totally focused. He was really close to his mom, and
that was the one camp that he got really really
focused on and really disciplined and you know, the the
long the long count on the knockdown probably helped him
out as well to But you know.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
He looked as good as he ever looked.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
I mean, I don't know what we made this the
many time, but I mean I mean Tyson had the
kryptonite going at that time too, though, you know what
I mean. You know what her name Robin Robin give Yeah,
I mean she was beautiful, but she's drugg disaster. And
she had him. She had him a little bit. You know,
they had him, they had him medicated. You know, they
had him, They had him a little off. You all
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remember to the interview he did. I remember the interview
had him totally sedated. Man, I'm like, does he know
where he's at right now?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
No, he did it, And I don't think he looked
over there either, Like weekend at Bernie's. You know, it's
just kind of floating around just there. He's a prompt.
He was on remote control or something, man like. I
don't know, I don't know. I just again, I don't
know why these coaches. I don't know why they do it.
I really don't know why they do it. I don't
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know how that's helping your team or what that's going
to do or serve by giving another team bulletim bore
material that's a over three touchdown favorite and you're going
to their house and they're about to whoop your butt.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I know I'm going to watch.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
Okay, good man, I'm glad you're watching it.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I might not have watched it otherwise. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
There might have been a better game going on at
that time slot, but I'm going to watch this game.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I thought you guys were doing dinner. You figured that out.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I think it's Florida. Florida Tennessee is going on around
that time. We are doing dinner Saturday. Yeah, yeah, we are.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
You think some of the places that Lee and I
were throwing out are going to have the Colorado Colorado.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
St I'm probably going to have to go to that
one that Lea said, it is just all it gets
a sports Who's all doing dinner?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Trish Meliatrician.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
The kids are going to Universal for this, like you know,
fright Night or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Deal.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
That's Lee and I were trying to sell them on
this ready September. He's got singing waiters. It's a nice
little Italian spot's got singing Waiters.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I'm out on Lee right now. Lee taking his hard
stance on a terrible football roll.
Speaker 6 (33:43):
I will die on that hill.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
That's a weird hill to die on. Man.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I'm still trying to figure out what Lee was showing
us in the glass last night that he caught.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I don't know that he put tequila on top of it.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Dang out.
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I found a get go right for DeAndre Swift can
touch it. I'm calling him Swifty.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Huh, So you're he's your pet mouse?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
No, I put him in. I put him in the
planter outside. Oh, I felt bad about it.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
Throw me in a made you think like, hey, this
is content these guys would want to see.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Was like, oh, let me shire with the guys. You
know they want to see this.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Which didn't want to see the get Going cut during
the game.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Lest I honestly didn't know what it was. The picture
was awful quality.
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your podcast. Week two in the NFL is already underway.
You've got the Philadelphia Eagles a big winner last night
at home over the Minnesota Vikings. Thoughts and pray, What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
How do you say that Eagles?
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It seems to me.
Speaker 7 (35:32):
E L G no Birds, l g L Eagles.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
That's too good. Although I feel like if I was
banged up, I could probably still spell Eagles. So yeah,
there's no there's no real excuse there for that woman.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
But I had a great extension to what you said,
Q just now. But I do represent the entire state
of Pennsylvania, So I don't want to offend anybody. A
great extension of what you said.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I won't I won't come on.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Why not? No, put it back in the holster.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
It never came out. It never came out. But I
had my hand I put my hand on on on
Uh what is that called the trigger? The grip. I
didn't put it. I didn't put it on the trigger.
I ain't get to the trigger. I just I just
put it on like the handle. Yeah, that's it. I
got a hold of the handle.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, okay, there we go.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, I won't say it, but it was a good
kid tickle us like that than not actually say that's sorry.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
No, it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I feel like the Pillsbury doughboy.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You're just that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Come on this car.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah, let's go. Let's keep going on. It's over now.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's over now. We do have to say congratulations to
Justin Jefferson another Monster game last night. Congratulations pretty historic
too that What else was he able to accompliper unders
on that game? I'm not sure? Oh yeah we did, Yeah,
we did.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Do we want to talk about it? Who won?
Speaker 5 (37:06):
That?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
We'll do next week before we next week, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Next week, we do.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
We would do it for the last segment, but we've
got you in and you're out, and really we just
talking about birthdays.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Birthdays. Yeah, big time, big birthday shout out. But congratulations
again to Justin Jefferson. Round of applause as he accomplished
something very difficult task. He is already after last night's performance.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It's amazing, got.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
More receiving yards than any Bears receiver in the history
of the franchise.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Oh wow, career receiving yards.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Yes, career yeah, is so congress He's no, he's twenty
four years old and it only took him, you know,
a couple of armpit farts in the league to outdo
any Bears receiver in the history of their franchise. Which
I ought to tell you exactly why what I said
earlier this week needs to happen. The Bears should be
move to the CFL until they can prove that they
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can put together some sort of a decent football team
over the last twenty plus years. That's it, and that's
all it is.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I was writting an article today this morning talking about
just how the clock's ticking on Justin fields like, Okay,
I'm like, look, if you're gonna be frustrated by a
couple of his misthrows. He's still a young player in
this league. There's some place he makes with his legs
that not many can maybe lamar, or maybe there's a
(38:30):
couple ers that can make some of.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Those plays all the time.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
And like it was written by a former front office executive.
And what bothers me about this, and I'll continue to
pound the drum is coaches, front office members are not
going to blame themselves.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
They're not.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
They might say the right things publicly, behind closed doors,
they will throw that young man under the bus. And
it's absolute bs. Did it happens all the time?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Did you hear Ryan pulls the gas said? He said that, Well,
you know, we're just seventy percent of what we could
be or where we want to be. It's like, thanks
for giving us a progress report on how far away
you are from actually being a good football team. That's awesome.
That's something to tell the fan base. Yeah, we couldn't
get it all fixed in one offseason, but don't worry
about it. We got thirty percent more to go.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That works on dates too.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
So all those people out there are single, Yeah, if
it doesn't go great the first time, just tell them
that's only seventy.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Percent of Yet yeah you wait, another shows up.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
The dumbest thing I've ever heard, Because that shows up.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
It's going to show up. Believe some of these some
of these coaches just right away. Damn.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Some of these coaches and zero managers, they will outwardly
show you they have no game, like they have zero game,
like when they were single, they could not pick up
anyone or didn't know what to say. Because they say
stuff like that. You're like, what, okay, thanks, I guess
like right, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
It's so bad, but hey, it's awful. At least at
least that picked gonna be a wild card to you.
That was awesome. Yeah, not true at all. You know
what I am a fan of though? What Football Friday?
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Come? Yeah? Updated version?
Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yeah yeah, Sam, Sam's dancing, Sam's dancing, ex playing with
this geto Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Sleep yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah. Killed that annoy and killed that noise. Squeeze it,
squeeze it. Let's go.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
Oh yeah, Friday night Briday. Yeah, football Friday, that's coming.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
It is a football Friday. Here. I'm two pros and
a cup of Joe, And it doesn't matter that it's
a that it's a Friday. It doesn't matter what day
it is. As a matter of fact, because for some reason,
the Dallas Cowboys are still defending Dak Prescott, who probably
doesn't need any defending as to why they made a
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move for Trey Lance and brought him in. Let's listen
to Stephen Jones, Jay's son, Stephen Jones talking about Jerry,
Jerry's son, Jerry, I don't have We're not jacking with you, Jerry.
That's how you say your name with like a thick
Texas accent.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
Jar Oh are you saying that at Jerry Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
Point being for some reason Stephen Jones felt it necessary
to back Dak Prescott for no reason whatsoever, and why
they brought in Trey Lance. Let's take a.
Speaker 12 (41:54):
Listen, actually end question leader here on this football team.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
He's got rare skin.
Speaker 12 (42:00):
In that area in terms of being able to lead
the team.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Uh.
Speaker 12 (42:04):
You know, we look at Dak as a guy who's
going to be around here for many many years to come,
and just really felt like Trey Lance, uh, you know,
upgraded the room and gives us a chance of something
more to happen to Dak, you know, to stay in
the mix like other teams have done in the past.
I know Philly did it one year with Nick Foles,
and sometimes you don't get your number one gal all
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the way through through the year, and it's always nice to,
you know, improve that room.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I mean, when I think, you know, experience with Trey Lance,
the first comp I think of is Nick Foles, you know,
you know, the definitely a guy who played four starts
in his career and that's all they had to show
for it. So I mean, it's a fair comp there,
that Nick Foles comp.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
It's not like Dak Prescott lit it up in week one.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
It's not, if we're being real, Prescott lit it up
in week one.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (42:59):
No, just saying like if the motivation for them coming
out and saying this still, when you see a forty
ninhering score, you're like, oh, he probably had like.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Kirk Cousins stats last night. He didn't.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
I mean, there was a lot of defensive plays and
touch down like different things that kind of led to that.
So I guess maybe that's one important passing although not
only not much more than Daniel Jones was not much.
Speaker 5 (43:28):
I was about to say, only like a thirty thirty
nine more yards than Daniel Jones for as bad as
it fell.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
If you're a Giants fan, like there probably was an
element of domination for the Cowboys, but like it wasn't
like your offense was one a ton. I'm just saying,
like maybe that's where this is born out of where
someone prompted the question, like, hey, defense was dominant, but
he you know, new new, you know, Mike McCarthy call
him plays with Brian Schtttheimer's doc. Not necessarily the you know,
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most prolific performance didn't need to be. You know, they'll
have to be much better this week. But I'm just saying,
it doesn't make any sense why he would bring this
up unless he was prompted to from that performance.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Here's why Else, it doesn't make sense because they're justifying, well,
we brought in Trey Lance because you're worried something might
happen to Dak Prescott. Okay, So why'd you wait so
long in the off season to do it? Like, if
you were so worried about it, wouldn't you have been
worried earlier in the off season? Why was it Trey Lance?
This feels like Jerry Jones sees a quarterback that didn't
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work elsewhere and thinks, well, if we bring him here,
we could make him work. It feels like an ego play.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
I also think they didn't know if Lance would be
the second, you know, the backup or third string.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (44:41):
If Lance was the backup, I don't know that he's available,
and that really didn't present itself until right before the start.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
Of the season, So it's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
I mean, I look at it and think that the
timings the timing with Trey Lance specifically because of how
that all worked out with him and Sam Donald competing
for the backup spot. But to your point about just
any backup, sure, I think they want to try to
upgrade who was behind Dak, But I think as far
as Tray being on the market, that wasn't gonna take
place until he was demoted to third string.
Speaker 2 (45:14):
I mean, are they the best team in the NFC
East based on what you've seen from Philadelphia and what
you've seen, No, yeah, no, I am curious.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
I am certainly.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
Curious to see how they match up against one another though,
and Dallas.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
You guys are gonna have to come to grips with
the fact that Dallas is winning that division.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
What does it come to grips? What do you mean.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Because you're some people think lebar Arrington's a cowboy hater.
That's what they think.
Speaker 5 (45:43):
I mean, I know people think I am. I'm a
I'm a believer in their defense, and I don't hate.
I don't hate the team. I just don't trust that
their offense can get it done. I don't I don't trust,
do not trust?
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Who? Do you not? Jack Prescott?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Damn?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Okay, sorry, I don't trust that they can. And to
be honest with you, even more so than Dak Prescott.
This might sound unpopular. I don't trust their offensive line.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
Damn why?
Speaker 5 (46:11):
And I don't think like for as much as people
talk about how good they are, and then you heard
them talking about, oh, just put Tyron in his gold
jacket and all this old other stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:22):
Tyrant's always hurt. He's always hurt.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
Their offensive line never makes it through, not like just
being well what the Eagles offensive line is like. They've
not lived up to that potential level. And I don't
think at this point they are.
Speaker 5 (46:42):
So I don't trust their offensive line more so than
I don't trust Dak. I don't trust their offensive line
because you can overcome some of the things that I
wouldn't trust with Dak Prescott if their offensive line were
to be able to play up to the level and
the standard that people have said that they're at and
do it at a at a consistent amount of time,
(47:03):
Like I just don't.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Do you think Dak Prescott's soft for being sedated for
eleven hours while getting a leg tattoo? No, it makes
them soft because I think it makes them a genius.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
I'm planning on doing that at some point. Get the
whole back, whole leg arm front side. I'm gonna be
sedated when I do it too.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Really, what are you going to get?
Speaker 3 (47:24):
What a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 5 (47:26):
I'm just I'm going through like a pre mid life crisis,
but I've been getting back a good life crisis pre
I'm not mid yet.
Speaker 3 (47:33):
I got what I got five.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
More years the other thirty I mean, just wait till
you see that thirty percent.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Damn, I'm just saying I'm an be sedated when before
you see it, you know. Yeah, It's almost like the cowboys,
though constantly create their own problems.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
How you figure.
Speaker 4 (47:54):
I mean, they're always talking about the quarterback situation or
how much you know they love one coach or someone else.
Speaker 3 (48:01):
I mean, it's just I don't know. I feel like
maybe it's too much. Maybe it's just it's just the
way they are.
Speaker 4 (48:07):
They're they're open and honest, and they kind of talk
and don't give much thoughts to what they're saying and
how it may impact everyone else. But I mean, there's
a reason why it's been so long since they've been
able to have that sort of Super Bowl success. And
I'm not saying I'm directly blaming on you know, Jerry Jones,
Stephen Jones, the way they've talked about the team, But
it's probably more the decisions they've made, you know, with
(48:28):
the team. But I think they they create sometimes their
own distractions, kind of similar to the Colts and then
their ownership and know how that works.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
I think that Super Bowl droughts ending this year for
the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
They'll be back there, do you really? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (48:43):
In Vegas? While we're there, we'll be talking.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Man, I don't haven't winning And you picked that too.
Speaker 4 (48:47):
If you haven't won it, do you not remember our
preseason picks? Dallas won in the Super Bowl, So I
had him as a number one overall seed.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
I did the whole playoff predictor thing. You got to
do it.
Speaker 5 (48:57):
I'm telling me, I just need it to do the
selective memory last thing with this because I don't want
to trust me. I have to tell you guys at
the end of how wrong you guys were.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
Trust me.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
I had the Bengals winning it, and after week one
I was like, Oh, that wasn't a good pick.
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