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Marcus Freeman takes heat and accountability for 10 players on the field at the end of the game. Dan Lanning gives credit Deion for the added coverage of his pregame speech. Plus the daily edition of “You In or Out?”

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(01:12):
anything else you want to say about Monday night football?
Double barrel action last night or no, we want to
kind of go in a different direction, have some fun here.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
What do you mean, I'd personally rather have some fun
unless you want to reset Monday night football.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I mean, all right, So the Eagles beat the Bucks.
Tampa Bay got kind of exposed. They were banged up.
Philadelphia job, well done, teams undefeated. Jalen Carter at number
nine appears to be a steal. Jalen Hurts had flu
like symptoms. Aj Brown had nine grabs for one hundred
and thirty plus yards. Workmanlike it for Philadelphia continues to roll.
And then now you go over to Cincinnati and the Rams.

(01:46):
Joe Burrows banged up the Cincinnati Bengals get it done,
and the Rams are a shell of who they were
a couple of years ago in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well done, all run of applause for Johnas.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Just that sums it up. Quick little reset here. So
there were some coaches who were talking yesterday in the
world of college football that were, you know, kind of
the focal point of what happened this past weekend. So
Dan Lanning had some clarification on some comments he made pregame.
We will hear from Dan Lanning here coming up here momentarily.

(02:18):
But also Marcus Freeman spoke about Brady the you know,
the the ten players that were on the field and
you know, the penalty and everything else that came out
of it. And he had this to say a couple
of days later yesterday about that situation at the end
of the game.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
To just address that, right, is that the reality is
when when did you find out?

Speaker 3 (02:37):
It was too late?

Speaker 4 (02:38):
It was too late, and you know, you don't have
time to get By the time we realized there was
ten guys on the field, you don't have time to
get somebody from you know, the sideline, when the balls
on the one yard line in the front, you know,
on the far hash to be able to you have
to touch somebody on offense to get them to stop
to play. And so by the time we realize that

(02:59):
to run somebody out out there, you would have got
a penalty, but they would have declined it and still
scored a touchdown. And so as we talked as a
staff yesterday. Obviously, we can't let that happen. We know
that we can't let ten guys be on the field
and not see it. But two, you know, we have
to be able to We came up with a call
a signal to be able to say, hey, you have

(03:20):
to jump off sides and touch somebody on the offense
so you can stop to play right. And so it
was a learning opportunity for myself and everybody involved with
our program.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
All Right, so can I defend Marcus Freeman because Brady
does it, You're just going to be called an apologist. Okay,
Like Marcus Freeman acknowledged, Yeah, we made a mistake. And
there's people that are go, oh, Notre Dame doesn't know
how account blah blah blah blah blah. I'm actually surprised
that stuff like this doesn't happen more, especially in chaotic,

(03:51):
crazy environments like that, to where all this stuff's happening.
You're driving down the field, it's bananas, the scene, you know,
it's Ohio State. It's Notre Dame, the pageantry, everything that
came along with it. They just got caught making a
mistake late in the game, like this idea that we're
out just going to go ahead and call out Marcus
Freeman and they're not intelligent and they're not prepared enough.

(04:13):
I get where that sort of idea is coming from,
but I think this just showcases how locked in and
how buttoned up majority of the time these top notch
programs and just teams in general are, and when stuff
like this happens, I'm surprised we don't see it more
often to where there's just mistakes that are made in
the moment. Remember that Jr. Smith forgetting how much time

(04:36):
was left or what the score was on the clock
in the NBA Finals games years ago. When stuff like
that happens, it just reminds me man ninety nine out
of one hundred, if not nine to nine to nine
out of a thousand, they're gonna get it right. This
was just a one off situation, and they're going to
be better for it.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
There's a bunch of things that I think, you know,
people on the outside who aren't really big into football,
you know, probably don't understand about the operation between every
given play. You know, one thing offenses due to defenses,
and this doesn't necessarily fit this scenario, but it did
in other portions of the game is offenses will play
fast at that point in the game to keep certain

(05:15):
personnel groupings on the field. So you hit a play
you rush up. Now, granted it's a two minute scenario,
so in that instance they have to anyway because of
the clock. For Ohio State, because they were down and
they needed a touchdown, So you know they're gonna be
playing fast anyway. But a lot of times offenses try
to do it because if you think about defenses, their

(05:36):
longest substitution the distance to run is when teams are in.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
The red zone.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
So offenses will try to keep a group on the field.
You get a big player that hits in the red zone,
they'll try to run up and play fast to get
another to get another playoff, just so the defense can't substitute,
and that way they can keep that group in there.
And so there's various elements that play a role in
just substitutions and how things like that can get messed up.

(06:01):
You know, I think for a young head coach and
Marcus Freeman, like we tend to forget, he had no
head coaching experience before he took over a Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I always felt.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Like you knew at some point there was going to
be a moment where you said, all right, he made
a mistake and it's a learning experience. This unfortunately happened
in arguably the biggest game that he's been a part
of so far in his career, at home, in the
final moments, in the most critical moment, and it ultimately
falls on him. You know, I don't know the exact

(06:32):
operations to their defense and substitutions to tell you, Hey,
it was on their defensive coordinator. Hey, it was on
this coach to be able to signal in who should
be out there. And there's no point in really pointing
a finger because it's over and you all you can
do is now put in, you know, different mechanisms to
ensure that it never happens again. And like you talked about,

(06:52):
you know, now the defense knows, hey, if there's a
likely ten guys out there, we have to be able
to cause a penalty.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
The odd thing is is that the you know, he
didn't try to or or they didn't, you know, no
one on the field recognized it. Like that's the tough
thing is when you're watching it. I mean, Todd blackliche
in the booth didn't recognize it, and he should have
seen it and draw drew attention to it. You know,
no one in the field for Notre Dame's defense at
the time recognized. If they did, they should have tried

(07:19):
to get a penalty. And I think initially the thought
too was like, hey, we couldn't substitute in time, and
you know we would have you know, we wouldn't want
to take a penalty, was one of the things they said.
What doesn't matter at that point, you know, you're half
the distance to the goal line. It wouldn't be quite
as punitive. At least you give yourself a chance to
stop whatever the next play is, as opposed to playing

(07:39):
with with a man down, and arguably in that instance
the most important guy you know, you needed, which is
a defensive lineman to try to stop an offensive line,
you know, lunging forward and pushing the way in the
end zone. So I think the toughest thing for Notre
Dame now is to not allow this defeat to beat
them twice, and they've got to go to do College

(08:00):
game day is gonna be there. This duke team's undefeated,
they play really good defense. They got a kid up front,
Dwayne Carter, he's one of the better D tackles in
the ACC. And Riley Leonard can take off run the football.
He's a second leading rusher. He doesn't really turn it over.
This will be a challenge for them, like both mentally
and really physically off of a physical game versus Ohio State.
Duke's probably looking at him thinking they're right for the

(08:22):
picking right now. They're probably looking their wounds and we're
gonna try to take advantage of that at home. So
they can't sulk and they can't worry about you know
what happened last week. All you can do is fix
it and move on.

Speaker 5 (08:33):
I'll just say this, generally, it's it's special teams where
you see somebody running out there late or you know,
the substitutions are an era. I mean, it was a mistake.
I mean that's that's what you chalk it up to.
Mistakes happened. It was a big game. Usually just just

(08:53):
in terms of reference on defense, usually you you make
sure someone's coming in when you're going out, like that's
generally been for defenders. That's generally your rule of thumb.
If you're coming off the field, you should have eyes

(09:13):
on the person who's coming in for you. You don't
just go off the field, or you don't just go
on the field. It's like I'm coming off the field,
I see who's coming in. Like if we're going from
a heavy package to a lighter package, I might have
to identify as a defensive end or a linebacker, a safety,
or a corner. You know that's coming in. But generally speaking,

(09:36):
in terms of sub subbing, especially when it's super loud
and different things like that, you always identify the person.
You don't come off unless you see the person that's
coming on for you. I would venture to say that,
for what it's worth, the coach is taking the rap

(09:58):
for an air response a brain fart of a player.
I mean, that would be my reasoning on it. Now,
that just is what it is. You generally have position guys,
like so the coaches that are on the sideline, you're
responsible for the substitutions of your position group. So if
it's the secondary, if it's the linebacker, if it's d line,

(10:20):
you have your guys and they should be there standing
right next to you on the sideline for subbing purposes,
especially if it is an offense that doesn't like the
huddle and they're going fast.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
You have your subs right there with you.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
So if a coach sends a guy on, then there
should be a guy coming off. In this case where
you have ten guys, somebody came off. But obviously there
was a miscommunication on why that guy came off, because
otherwise you would have saw the guy coming in for
you that was relieving you of your your duty. So

(11:01):
again it happened like the reasoning could probably just be
very simple, which generally speaking, it was a player that
had a mental lapse.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
That's that's the.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Problem is is like, I mean, just like that part
of it, it's not on the player. The coach has
to be aware of it too, right, I mean the
player didn't hear their call or he's going to know, like, hey,
I only have three defensive linemen out there. Yeah, either
the DC needs to still or they need to I
don't disagree with you. I'm just saying in terms of

(11:35):
if they're and I don't know their process.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I don't know their process.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
I just know pretty much every every like defense I
was on in college and in pro our rule of
thumb is if you don't see your guy, you don't
come off like I know who my subs are, so
I know if if if you know Sam Shade, or
if if this person, if if Carl those immends is

(12:00):
coming on for Nickel, whatever it is, I know who
my subs are. If I don't see my sub if
I don't see Reggie tour Board coming on, I'm not
coming off. I'm not coming off. So it's kind of
like one of those things. Yes, it is on the
coach ultimately again for what takes place. But with that
being said, if I'm a player, I don't need to

(12:23):
be a robot either. You know, sometimes I have to
use deductive reasoning, like Okay, they call it this personnel grouping.
He could have heard a personnel grouping or a defense culture,
but he's not been in that past year. Yeah, I
get it that that didn't even speak to though. Whoever
the captain is on defense like a quarter like think
about it. On offense, I step out of the huddle

(12:44):
because I want to make sure we have everyone.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's the first thing, the first thing you're responsible for.
And even in no huddle, I have to communicate the
formation and the play, and so I'm looking to make
sure I've got everyone.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I need.

Speaker 5 (13:00):
So like on our defense, generally a linebacker, a linebacker
doesn't check for the secondary though the linebacker checks for
the front group.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Well you have a same cash that's probably right, right.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
The communication if for the defense is different because a
lot of times it's hand signals. They're looking, they're getting it,
they're not really concerned about who is wearing all that.
What I'm saying though, is if you've got a captain
at linebacker, you should know both. You should know, hey,
this is the front, this is whatever, well whatever you're
running coverage everything else. So okay, you have to be

(13:33):
the one to be able to make sure everyone's in
the right spot for where they run fit or they're
coverages right. And so that's the thing is, it doesn't
matter if it's the head coach, the defense coordinator, the
d line coach that to your point of accountability. There's
always a quarterback on one side of the ball. And
in this instance too, like you could look at that
and say, well, these guys got to be aware in

(13:55):
particularly whoever that quarterback is on defense for them and say, dude,
we're missing a guy like it almost in that instance,
you you come out of your position to say they're
not there. I'm gonna go take over where that defensive
tackle is supposed to be because I can't let this
offensive line get a running star at two dbs who
are like looking around, going wait a second, something's off here,

(14:15):
and then snap their football.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
You give up a touchdown.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
Well somebody again, like you said, before the ball is
about to be snapped, somebody has to see I made
a call. If that call is a quarters, a dime,
a nickel call in or if it's a heavy call,
why do I only see three defensive linemen? Yeah, say
something like say it immediately. Don't like what they say
to rule of thumb, don't keep a secret. Say to

(14:39):
me three d lineman lineman like say it like, so
jump off anyway, that's one thing. They could jump or
jump off side something something, but anyway, that's again. I
still think one of the best things about a team
that wins is that you make I notice might sound crazy,

(15:01):
but you make your coaches look good. Like if they
call a S call, you make that s into what
you need to make it into. If if something needs
to be adjusted, like there's been times where where our
guys adjusted play calls, like hell no, we ain't going
with that, like like we're going we're going to do this,
and and and you make that call and you make

(15:23):
it work, like based off of what the given scenarios
are going on in the game. You have to be
an extension of of your coach. Sometimes in the game
you're going to see the game much differently than what
the coach is going to see it because you're right
there in it. And so to me, in this moment,
in this moment, you got to be so dialed in

(15:43):
that as a player. And like you said, generally speaking,
it is your middle backer. But sometimes, I mean Derek
Brooks was one of the most intelligent dudes like you'd
ever a week, and he was a.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Weak side backer.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
So you had guys that aren't necessarily in the in
the play calling or the quarterback, you know, position to
make calls, but they were always smart enough or always
were those type of guys that would make sure things
were what they were supposed to be, even if they
weren't in the middle position or or at the safety
position where you're supposed to be quarterbacking the d somebody

(16:20):
needed to step up and be the brain in that moment.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
It just didn't happen that way. I mean, for whatever.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Reason it was, and again I'll chalk it up to
a mental lapse or just a mistake.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
It just was.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
It was just a Beer's the reality. Ohio State took advantage.
You know, Kyle McCory made some big throws in that
final drive. They saw the weakness. They they ran a
play that look if they don't get that, the game's over.
So it's there's some risks to that, but they saw it,
they exploited it, and kudos to them, Like that's what
good teams do. Good teams find ways of winning football

(16:50):
games in the final moments and they don't make those
of mistakes. You know, clearly Notre Dame could match up
with them throughout the course of the game. That's why
they had Ohio State in that position. But but you
know that, and you don't want to put on just
that one play because there's obviously a series of plays
in which they could have executed and who knows how
different it would have been. But that hurt. I mean,
to lose that game that way, that hurts. And that's

(17:12):
one that I've said this before, Like you don't get
over that. You don't like that's one you have to
find peace with. That's one you have to cope with.
And I think the hardest thing is when you get
flat out beat, like when you have a team that's
just better than you and or on that day, is
better than you. It's easier to deal with that than
it is when you made a mistake or you mess

(17:34):
something up, or even if there's any like indecision on it,
because then you're always going to second guess, like, well,
what could have we done different to get a different outcome,
to to have changed that. So that's the hard thing
for Notre Dame is they got to figure out a
way of moving on, moving past this because it's been
a national piece of conversation. It will continue to be,
you know, a part of the national conversation, especially if

(17:55):
they don't go out there and be duke this week
and then it's two in a row and that's all
people are gonna be talking about.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Watching that game when it came down and they you know,
McCord completed that pass, got it down to the goal line,
it reminded me so much of the Bush Push game,
just that this was at the same side of the
field as well.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Why would you bring that up.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It was that end zone. But here's the thing I
don't get about that. People have said that, I'm like,
what was the same about it?

Speaker 2 (18:19):
I mean the drama, yeah, but it.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Like no offense to Hot of State. They weren't as
good as USC was that y. I'm just saying USC
was on a twenty seven game win streak. I mean
that was they'd been the back to back national championshi
underd three peat, and they had two Heisman Trophy winners
on their team. Like, first off the third and nineteen
that they had, they didn't even convert. They got it
to within fourth and nine, then made a big play

(18:42):
on fourth and nine.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
And so it was to me, I was.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Kind of like everyone trying to make comparisons of this
game and the feeling and all that to USC that year.
And look, I hate to do this, but it wasn't
as big of a game as it was that.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'm sorry, it wasn't as big a game.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You're talking about a number one team that you're trying
to knock off, and if you win, you have a
chance to win a national championship or go play for one.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
If they win, they go on to planet. So yeah,
I will say.

Speaker 5 (19:09):
This does put a lot of pressure on Notre Dame
in turn of making the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
There's no room for air.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Listen Notre Dame minus six this weekend. It's good. Yeah,
just go ahead and take that.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
And run with it. Five and a half. It's something.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
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Speaker 3 (19:25):
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Speaker 2 (19:28):
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Speaker 3 (19:33):
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Speaker 2 (19:35):
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Speaker 3 (19:37):
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Speaker 2 (19:38):
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Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox. All right, so coming
up next here, somebody has responded to some critical comments,
critical comments that were made and upon further review, it
actually makes more sense now than it did before. We'll
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Speaker 3 (20:34):
So I wan't no part of that.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yeah, I'm not really sure whether or not we'd be
in or out on somebody's birthday or not. But those
sports related yeah, it is has taken over these second.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
This is gonna have to do with like Travis Kelcey
and probably like his was it?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
What do you call those signs? Those things whatever.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
They call them, always zodiacs.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Zodiac signs and how they match up with hers or
whatever else?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
You guys believe that crap? By the way, do you
believe zodiac signs like horoscopes things like that.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I mean, here's where's where I'm stuck is every time
someone reads me and I'm like, well that's kind of right,
you know, that's that's kind of on point.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
But I also feel like they're written to.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Kind of be like right, no matter what, Yes, you know,
the kind of hedge constantly and.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Like the best part about a horoscope is at the
bottom assays for entertainment purposes only. So if you are
one of those people that the fortune co Yeah, if
you're one of those people that's reading your horoscope to
find out how your day is going to go, you're
a loser already.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, you're ready. You've already lost loser. Yeah that's what Hey,
by the way, jis what's your what's your horoscope?

Speaker 2 (21:39):
Would have said that, I don't know, don't worry about it.
She'd worry about it. Here.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
I just sometimes you read those in the morning.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I'm listening. Don't worry about what I read. They call
me show prep Jesus for a reason. Okay, get locked
and loaded. Watch what Watching the All twenty twos, watch
house that ten dollars?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
That was very passive aggressive.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Watching the All twenty twos of the show what I
do you.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Saw the All twenty two is that Mac Jones grabbed
full of nuts?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah? He did you send me that?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I was like, damn Jonas, Like I really zoomed in
on that.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Yeah, the old backhand to the to the downstairs bathroom.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
What the best sage?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
And you know that's the noise I heard when he
did it with his hands.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
By the way, can we feel it? Could you feel it?
All right?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
So Iowa Iowa. Sam was very into the mac Jones
hitting Sauce Gardener and the groin video that came out,
so much so that on the on the group text
chain he sent over Smack Jones. So he had a
nice little fun pun with that there. And then then
Sam photo shopped Mac Jones's face on Mick Mick, Mitch

(22:55):
cup Check's body and over Matt cup Check. Yeah, so
Matt cup Check is what he's being referred to.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, back check who's coached by Bill Belichick.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
But so, you guys, so I think you guys are
on the right side of a discussion that we had
yesterday and I was on the wrong side of it.
What part which is par for the course? Dan Lanning,
the head coach of Oregon, He spoke about some critical
comments that Skip Bayless had about his pregame speech to
Colorado and Dion Sanders, And after he explained why the

(23:31):
speech was what it was, it kind of makes more
sense and it turns out you guys were right. Let's
sake a listen.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
I mean, ultimately, here's what I say. We're playing to
win the game.

Speaker 7 (23:40):
Right, And you saw a fifteen second clip from a
window view outside the house. What happens in the locker room? Right,
I know our locker room. I'm in the house one
hundred percent of the time. I know how our players
felt going into that game, and I know what it
takes to motivate our players. That's my job to motivate
our players. Right, he has a job. I have a
job too to get out there and to perform on
the field. But inside that house, they felt a certain way.

(24:02):
They felt a certain way about a group stomping on
the O, they felt a certain way about guys talking
to him in the pregame. And I'm proud of those
guys because what they decided to do is talk with
their pads.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Right.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
They didn't want to do anything extra afterwards. They wanted
to talk with their pads, and they did that on Saturday.
I'm also grateful and and can clearly acknowledge that the
attention that we got this Saturday in a large part
was due to Dion.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
And what he's doing to college football.

Speaker 7 (24:28):
And if anybody can't see what he's done for college
football and how he's bringing excitement to college football, you're crazy, right.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So yeah, I stand crust.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I appreciate him saying that though. That's very cool to
him to say that. Yeah, he didn't have to do that.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, but like we talked about, he knew what he
was doing. It's all for clicks, I mean all of it.
Like there's a part of me that feels like Ryan
Day is saying what he said, it was kind of
for we would he's trying to find and kick someone's
ass with it.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Who's got an ARP card.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
But I'm just I'm saying, like, in today's world, I
think it's all about attention. I kind of hate this though.
It's like any publicity is good publicity. I'm like, I
don't know if I agree with that, And maybe it's
more of the media's fault for the way we dissect
it and cut things up. But there's also elements like

(25:21):
what we saw. I mean, Dan Lanning was aware that
I was going to become public. He knew that was
part of like probably his recruiting tool as a motivator,
as a head coach and like, hey, substance over clicks
type thing. I mean, that's the sort of thing that
you don't think Deon and him are recruiting the same players.
Let's be real, now, out of high school and the
transfer portal, you don't think every single coach that's out

(25:44):
there is like, dude, I can't let Dion get go
on if I let him start winning some games and
all that, like he's gonna be able to walk in
every single player's living room. Because here's the thing people
have to remember. When you're recruiting a player, you recruit
the parents.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
That's all. It's all at the same package. And what
parent is it gonna let diall walk in their room?

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Or is it gonna say, yeah, let's fly out to Boulder,
Colorado to go be Dion Sanders, Like, who's not gonna
take up that opportunity?

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And he can close.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now you hear him talk, You hear the way he
preaches like he can close people. And so if he
could close the parents and the kids looking at it, coin,
hell yeah, this looks fun, This looks this looks cool,
like they're in And so every single head coach feels
threatened by that, and they feel threatened by the attention
that Dion's got, and so they've the only way they

(26:35):
can take a shot and try to showcase to parents,
showcase to recruits that their son shouldn't go to to
play for Dion Sanders is to try to whoop their
ass on the field, because if you do that, then
you say, well, why would.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
You want to go there?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
You don't have a shot at winning a national championship,
you don't have a shot at winning a conference championship. Yeah,
it's a good store, it's a lot of fun, a
lot of flash, but you don't have a chance. Like
that's what their pitch can be. It's the only thing
it can be. So you know, that's why like USC
this week for Lincoln Riley, I mean, he's Deon's getting
all these number one guys who are like committed other places,
top of the guys in their class they're visiting. But like,

(27:13):
the pitch has to be more than just like what
things will be in the future. Eventually, Colorado has to
build it so they are competitive with the Organs, with
the USC's et cetera. Right, I mean next year it's
obviously going to be in the Big twelve. So a
little different and maybe maybe they'll be able to easily
dominate the Big twelve based on the recruiting and how
that looks. But if you look at the recruiting rankings
for twenty twenty four, then look quite as good. But

(27:36):
maybe Deon feels like they don't need to recruit kids
from high school. They can just recruit kids, you know,
from the transfer portal, and they'll be fine supplementing.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
That that Even then, though, it's still you're still running
into those same elements in terms of what the appeal
is even in the transfer portal. It's interesting because I'm
one of those parents, you know, like Oregon and Colorado
have heavily recruited man man, so so I have I

(28:06):
have experienced what what that does feel like.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Like I'm watching the game. I I'm high on Oregon.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
One one of the kids that I've coached is currently
a scholarship player at Oregon, and it's I hear some
great things about it. I coached alongside a few of
the coaches that are on Colorado staff, so I know
coach Hart very well. In fact, one of his kids'

(28:35):
names is his Arrington. So it's it's interesting when you
talk about that dynamic of what is appealing versus maybe
what may outweigh the other when in recruitment and where
you may or may not go. I look at Orgon

(28:57):
as a parent, I'm looking at at at me, and
I'm saying, Okay, when you look at Oregon, Washington is
high on his list, USC is high on his list,
and Colorado is an obviously Penn state. But when you
look at the schools and you start comparing them and
you start doing process of elimination and different things like that,

(29:20):
it one hundred percent comes down to the appeal of
what that coach has to offer in terms of do
I buy into what he's saying, Do I buy into
the future of this program. One of the things that
Dion said immediately in his press conference was get me now,

(29:41):
Get me now.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
And you know what that said to me?

Speaker 5 (29:43):
That was a signal that was like a bat signal
to all his top recruits and everybody he's going after,
like come on in, like y'all come to Colorado, Like
we're gonna make this thing. We're gonna continue to make
this thing what is supposed to be. I got some
good ball players, but I still need all players that
are going to get us to the next level.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
So now that talks to not.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Only the players that he's recruiting, but the parents are
sitting there like, man, I'm gonna take my kid here.
He's going to get an opportunity to play, and he
might get an opportunity to play quickly, you know, quickly,
quicker than what he would going to an organ or
going to a usc you know. So to me, it
is a recruiting war. That's that's taking place in the

(30:26):
things that are being said, and and Dion is giving
people somewhat of an evolved blueprint of how to go
about doing it. That was rehearsed to see what was
going on in Oregon's locker room. That was rehearsed, but
it was to put out there and for people to see, Okay,

(30:46):
like we're coming with substance that's going to appeal to
some some parents out there, Like we're letting our pats talk.
That's going to appeal to some parents out there and
to the players.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
So it's such a thing that sound like uh, they
sounded like.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Uh, you know, it's definitely sounded like buffalo crumbling underneath,
you know, on said crack crack.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
Crack, crack, Yeah, you know buffalo cracking.

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(33:09):
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How many? How does it keep getting so hot?

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The past five years it's been astronomical, like it didn't
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got eight hundred and thirty million dollars.

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Yeah.

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Speaker 3 (34:12):
Two pros and a cup of shoe?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
What even enough?

Speaker 6 (34:16):
If they're in at least or they're out?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
All right, lead the lat what do we got?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Well?

Speaker 10 (34:22):
You stole my first story from you. In or you're out,
So we're gonna skip right to the to the birthday.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Well, no, just ask us if we're in out on
the eight hundred and thirty five million dollars Jack.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
You enter out on getting some uh some tickets with
me for the new power Ball at eight hundred and
thirty five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
If you know, because we got scam last time.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I didn't. I know, we know you didn't. You're the scabs.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Actually, I think I did get scamps. I don't think,
LeVar Page really no, you got me back eventually, Damn LeVar.
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
But yeah, I love how we gave Lee like a.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Water come out. I did take y'all out to eat,
That's true.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
We gave Lee want of cash to go get us tickets,
and he bought some tickets and the rest got some food.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
He got some coasters. Are we getting like a refund
for that? It's the opening.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Money.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Just because you're that that money to use doesn't mean
that was our intended use for you to do that
with it.

Speaker 10 (35:19):
I think you got more use out of it for
me getting a drink than wasting it on I.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Got zero use out of that, in fact, from using
it on the power Ball.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
By the way, I got to send you guys.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Not true. At least we have shot at winning it.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I gotta send you, guys the video. I gotta leave
Mini barm.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Oh my god, that's the last time le I give
you any.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Money, trusting you with money again.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
But what if I buy you some zoombas.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah, I don't care. You owe me. We're already in
the hole. You should buy me zubas because you need to.
What do you buy us zoombus for with our money? Like,
use your money and then you can say you're buying
a Zuma's dang, right?

Speaker 2 (36:01):
And I went, when I win the power Ball, I'll
get you guys some zubas.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
All right, cool? Thanksally, you got it. Yes, I just
have a feeling we'll never hear from you again. If
you want a Powerball, lease, you'll get some pictures the
big leeb Alski sailing away.

Speaker 10 (36:17):
My mini bar will expand that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
It's September twenty sixth, so it's a happy birthday, A
happy forty second birthday to Serena Williams.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
What up Serena.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's what's up, guys. You guys ever met her?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
She cool? I hers, she's cool. I've met her once.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
LeVar LeVar, she cool.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
What I was just like, is she happy birthday?

Speaker 2 (36:45):
She seems she seems cool.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
It's also it's also Athletes of All Time.

Speaker 10 (36:51):
Yeah, it's World Shamoo Day because baby Shamoo was born
on this day in nineteen eighty five. Happy birthday, Baby Shamo.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Happy Birthday, Baby Shamo.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Who cares?

Speaker 10 (37:00):
Johnny Appleseed Day because Johnny Appleseed was born on this
day and I found out there is a museum for
Johnny Appleseed in Urbana, Ohio, forty.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Five minutes from Bana, Bana.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
That's why I come to you. Grady thought they were
a grudge band.

Speaker 10 (37:18):
Thirty five minutes outside of Columbus. That's why I brought
it up to Brady. I thought he might be a
Johnny Appleseed expert.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
I don't know about that, but yeah.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
Johnny Appleseed bringing a cultivating apples here in America. Guys,
if you're looking for something to watch, tonight debut the
thirty second season of Dancing with the Stars, which has
Adrian Peterson in it.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Pays Enter out on Adrian Peterson on dancing I love
just like.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
It's an interesting move. Bye out watch Dancing with the Stars.
So I'm out. They get paid though, right, I'm sure
they get paid a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
You think so?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Half mil?

Speaker 1 (37:57):
No, not not that much, but I think it's like
maybe a hundred maybe how many know if it's that?

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Is that showing Fox? But no, okay, yeah that show sucks.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
You're out, huh. I'm out too, Day
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