September 27, 2023 • 47 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Robert Saleh is in danger of losing the lock room by backing Zach Wilson. The story that never dies, Colin Kaepernick pens a letter to the Jets, so let’s give a shot and get it over with. The Old P, Petros Papadakis gives blessings and talks all things college football including Ohio State’s win over Notre Dame.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, How the hell we feel here on a Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
How are you feeling on a Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I'm good, feel.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Yeah, just just hanging out another another glorious morning, some
three hour extravaganza radio Here. We're going to put on
troll display. Yeah, that's what we do here, canza. How
you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Okay, excited for this show, especially seeing cues notes on
what he wants to talk about him.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man, we're super excited.
Speaker 7 (00:42):
A lot of random stuff out there yesterday the news.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Super super random. But yeah, don't super excited.
Speaker 7 (00:50):
Don't be all upset just because there's one thing you
don't want to talk about that. I'm just like, I
want to see I want to see it over with.
I'm just that's all I'm saying. Super pumped up about.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It a little bar. How you feel man?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Pumped up? Yeah? Did you get IV again?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
No, I'm checked up a body.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Did you I do need one? Though?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You got the grain goblin came back a little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Yeah, it's all good though, It's all I know why
it came back because it has a name like hurricanes.
You know, I'm gonna start naming my migraines, and this
one is going to be Migraine Cap.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Migraine what.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Very good. It just keeps coming back every seven years.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
And like hurricane you know Lee or Hurricane you know,
Migraine cap you know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, well you didn't catch that one yet. I got it.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
You're picking up your I mean because you put it down,
so you should be picking get up.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So can we talk about a not so good football team? Well,
I guess a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Let's talk about but a team that's.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Got some quarterback problems because apparently the New York Jets
are still trying to figure out this whole quarterback thing.
And there's a couple of different aspects to this that
we should point out. A Trevor Simeon was brought in
and signed to the practice squad, so at least they
did make a move at quarterback to bring somebody in.
But he's been signed to the practice squad. Now what
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why it's not a Carson Wentz or Matt Ryan who's
rejected the offer. Feels a little strange because if you
were one of those guys and you wanted to come
back on some sort of approve it year, approve it
deal for one year and have an opportunity to show
you can play. There are worse situations and rosters in
the NFL than the Jets.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Correct there are, but I don't know that there's.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Situations that are available right that that are worse. Like
I would say, I mean, what situations out there outside
of the Jets. Would you say they're looking for a
quarterback to come in? That's a hot d seat to
sit on, because I think the problem with the Jets
is is not only are you are you basically being
asked to make them a playoff team if you don't
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know the system. And on top of that, their offensive
line play hasn't been good, and we saw the Dallas game.
We're seventy percent of the passing snaps. There's pressure on
Zach Wilson throughout some of the other I mean, obviously Rogers's.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hurt for a reason.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
I mean, is it's not the best scenario just because
it's a situation. I had this conversation with someone yesterday
and it's like, if I'm Matt Ryan, who's made a
ton of money in his career, and I'm looking at
this saying if I come back to play, like I
want to come back to play, probably for a team
that's going to invest in me, You're a lease if
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you come back to play for the Jets this year,
like they're only using you for this year because it's
Rogers team in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So some of these guys, like especially Matt.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Ryan, who's made hundreds of millions, he might say, look,
if I'm gonna do this, you're gonna pay me well.
And I don't know that the Jets are willing to
pay that much for it, And I don't know that
Matt Ryan wants to step into a scenario where there's
no really long term buying by the team. And then
this is the last thing I'll say, because I think
there's some people out there who are like, well, it's
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better than sitting on your butt at home.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Or maybe not.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
For Matt Ryan, he's made hundreds of millions of dollars,
he's on TV now calling games, he might say.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I don't need to do this now.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
For someone like Carson Wentz, he might say, like, you
know what, I've made millions.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I've made a bunch of money so far.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I've bounced around with what three different teams, right, he's
been with obviously Philly you drafted him than Indi, than Washington's.
Here's the reality for Carson Wentz to situation. If he
goes to the Jets, he doesn't play well, he's done.
He's done, like he will not get another chance. That'll
be it. And so even though there's a lot of
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people out there who are well, he's not doing anything
right now, he's stayed at home, It's like, well, dude,
hold on for a second. He might have a chance
to be in a better situation, either later on this
year or next year. Because we've seen guys sit out
for a year and still come back where it actually
might be better for his long term for his career,
instead of going to a place like the Jets where
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he might not have any ties, it might be hard
for him to learn that system. So I just think
when when you look at two guys like Wentz and
Matt Ryan have made a lot of money, they could
probably be a little more selective about the situation they
want to step into.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
How much money do you guys think Matt Ryan's made
in his career. I've got the.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Number, it's three hundred, is it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I mean, LeVar, you want to take a guess at this,
you want to spin the chamber?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Come on, Yeah, I'm going to go somewhere and around
three hundred and one.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
All right, so labargos three hundred and one. Brady, you're
going to go at three hundred.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You did the prices right now?
Speaker 7 (05:54):
He did like that? I did like mad respect matter.
I didn't know we're playing that game. You just show
peop we're playing that game. I'll give you props on that.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
According to spo Track, Matt Ryan has made three hundred
three million, seven hundred thirteen thousand dollars career.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Yeah, you get this new woodo, but that's testing on.
You didn't matter if you got the price right, yes, come.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
On down, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So there is also this story that has popped up
that it that has made the rounds as well too. Well,
it's not quite that one yet. We should point this
out though, according to Rich Semini, who covers the NFL
for ESPN.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And it makes one hell of a pizza.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah does he really? I don't know, well, I mean
he should. Why not?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
By the way, Brady's like ninety four percent Italian? He
could say that joke we're fine here.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, no about that much.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
But I have apparently a majority of Italian and that
was according to twenty three at me. Yes, we're actually
contesting right now and the system. But there's a lot
of upset Irish people about that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, you're an idiots, sound.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
All right?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So according to rich Samini Us, this report is out
that Robert Sala, the head coach of the New York Jets,
is quote at risk of losing the locker room over
his loyalty to Zach Wilson, and the defense in particular
is quote not happy, and tensions are on the rise,
ready to implode possibly in New York because Robert Sala
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is steadfast in his support of one Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
A little bit problematic, all.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Right, And just listening to what Q had to say,
what about what about just the well, I'm just saying
basing it off of what you just said and some
of the reasoning that Q just gave.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
As a player, you.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Have to be aware of what your your scenario and
your circumstances are what exactly in this scenario, regardless of
if they are Robert slaw, that is, and hit the
decision makers the GM if they're looking for any of
those guys to come back and play, if they're looking
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for a solution outside of Zach Wilson, why would those
players want Robert Salaw to take literally right now presently
their only chance of having some type of way of
winning a few games, even if they were to bring
a quarterback in and that quarterback has to get up
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to speed, why would you want why would you want
Robert Salah to come out publicly and condemn your starting quarterback?
Like why would you as a player, why would you
want that? Why would you want to create that narrative
to the media. Why would you want to leak that
to the media that Robert Sala too loyal to your
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starting coach, I mean to your starting quarterback, Like why.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Would you do that?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Because there's not that great of you know, there's not,
and for what it's worth, For what it's worth, I
know you you're not getting good offense. And I know
this storage resonates or you know, comes from from the defense.
The defense hasn't been as impressive as it could be
either like they they were, they have been figured out
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in games as well. So don't don't put this solely
on at the feet of the quarterback. Sure, he has
had poor play and you could have help from your offense,
specifically from that position, but.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Y'all haven't been stellar, y'all.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Not y'all haven't had performances where you could actually sit
there and say, we're just scruntling, we're upset and we
don't like the fact that he's so loyal to to
to this starting quarterback, y'all haven't y'all haven't given us
reason to sit there and say, yeah, give them a
chance out there playing their hearts out. They've done okay,
but at times they have been figured out. So let's
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not act like, let's not act like you yourselves shouldn't
be looking in the mirror first and saying, let's start
with us and let us do better. And what it
is that we're doing I find out to be a
tap bit perplexing, to be honest, and I just would
wonder why they would want Robert Sila to come out
in the media and in the public and condemn the
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only chance y'all have of trying to salvage games right
now until you find what could possibly be someone who
could give you a better opportunity of winning moving forward.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Does it make sense.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Is it that to you, LeVar or is it you know,
since twenty twenty one when Zach Wilson's got there, they've
never been better than I think like twenty fifth twenty
sixth in the league on offense. I mean, does that
wear on you if you're a if it's the same
guy and you've got a coach who's defending that guy,
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and you're watching it in practice, and you're watching it
in training camp, and then you're watching it in the
season for years now, and you're like, man, this isn't
good enough. I mean I can see where they would
be frustrated because its like a this year the broken record, right.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
And you're right, and they would be correct in that.
But he was brought he was he was made a backup.
They want they want him to just get rid of
them all together, Like get rid of the dude all together.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean, he is a draft pick. A draft pick.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
You didn't get rid of him. You made him a backup,
you know what I mean? Like I get but I
think when.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
You looked at last year, okay, the way last year
when we was kind of in and out of the
lineup because they made him a backup at one point
last year, they got behind Mike White. You know, whether
or not you want to say that worked out, it's
like it seemed like the team got behind him, Mike White.
You know, it seemed like the team at least had
a little more juice for him.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
I can just sense, like the frustration of all of it.
When you had what you thought was a future Hall
of Fame quarterback and it all goes to crap in
four plays and now you've got to deal with, you know,
a reoccurring nightmare that was last season.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I can see what they'd be frustrated.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Like that's human nature, right, Like I can understand that
process from from Jets fans.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
All that hard work down to dream because the guy
y'all drafted that is now your backup isn't even good
enough to be a backup that gives you a chance.
That's that's that's the situation you're in. Like I get it.
I could get the frustration, But my whole thing is,
what what is like what don Robert do?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Like why can't he do in this situation? He could
put it.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Trevor Simeon because that's that's who they're gonna end up
elevating to the active roster at something.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
And he has he doesn't have enough to me do
we think that he has enough like game stats and
enough like career career reps where we can sit there
and say, you feel confident that Trevor Simon is going
to come in and be a better a better player
than than Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's probably actually like.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
The most defeating thing if you're you know, I mean,
I'm just saying like you're bringing it a guy that
you're looking at and saying like this is we believe
this guy's going to come in and potentially give us
a better shot than Zack Wilson.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It feels like what what what what?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Where are you looking that says that's going to give
you confidence that this is a change that gives us
an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It feels like we're going back though, to the same
conversation we had last year, which was Zach Wilson's time
in New York was done the second they benched him.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's really what this comes down to.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It Becauset's come out and say.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
We don't bang with Zach Wilson getting up out of here.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Rather, I rather have the guy that that we're going
to talk about hour four of the show.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And you'd rather remember when well done they played. They
played Thursday night last year there was a game against
the Jaguars and Zach Wilson didn't even get through like
the first quarter and Jets fans were booing his ass
off the field. So if all of that was going on,
why was he brought back? Like if I tried to
say this before the season, y'all, Like this was the
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whole point I was trying to make, was they didn't
like I'm sup.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
First off, there's so many different levels of they don't
have faith in him. He doesn't have confidence and faith
in himself. He needed a new start. They needed a
new start. The team, the locker room needed a new
start without Zach Wilson being part of it. And I
understand they would be Look, they'd be in the same
exact spot when Aaron Rodgers got hurt, whether Zach Wilson
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was the.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Backup or not.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
And to now not to I mean, you're not gonna
have any trade value now, especially if you replace him
for Trevor Simeon. Like that's the reality of this. I mean,
you literally are gonna have to just kind of throw
the pick to the wayside. You could have got something
for him this offseason. There had to have been some
team out there that would have given like a sixth
round pick, fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I just I mean a tenth.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Round pick, same draft class, fourteenth round pick, the.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Same draft class, more commitment from draft capital standpoint, And
the Niners traded Trey Lance for what a fourth round
pick like.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah, in all seriousness, like the twentieth round pick for
Zach Wilson.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Think about that for a second. Zach Wilson's at least
played more football. Yeah, he's probably got a little better
tape with him with US Highs than Trey Lance. And
they were able to get a fourth round pick. That's
what the just missed out on.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I just don't think you're going to get a fourth
round pick for him, not anymore, but get something for.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It would season before, Yes, they would have.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I think they would have got a jawbreaker, some Jolly
Joe's and some Mike and Nikes and a couple of dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Hey, by the way, you guys prefer Mike and Ikes.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
What the grape apes? Okay, that's racist. It depends on
they had. There was there was candies that were great grape.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Apes that were in the same family as Jolly Joe's
and Mike.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And yeah, I'm gonna go hot to Malli's.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I think hots are like the usual go to, but
like es are good too.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, good call.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
Well we're not going to talk about any other quarterback options.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
We're going to Yeah, well what we set aside sometimes ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Later on, be sure to catch live editions of Two
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Arrington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern
three am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
All right, no, I just got it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The moment I've been dreading.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I just got to dust off an old topic here,
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've been reading this.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
My gosh, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Colin Kaepernick is back.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Apparently he wrote a letter to the New York Jets
asking to join their practice squad. Now there's a rapper
named j Cole, no relation to Kenneth, who released the
letters with permission from Kaepernick, and it says this quote,
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worst case scenario, you see what we have to offer
and you're not that impressed best case scenario, you realize
you have a real weapon at your disposal in the
event you ever need to use it in either of
these scenarios, would be committed to getting your defense ready
week in and week out, all season long, and I
would wear that responsibility like a badge of honor. End quote.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Can I ask a first quick question to that, You
want a statement?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm running the liquor store. I'm tired of this topic.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
My first quick when I read the statement, my first
quick reaction was did you need to see Zach Wilson
not prove out to have those sentiments as why you
should be brought in? Can't you say that for all
thirty two teams right now today, that you could bring
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that to the table without having seen an injury take
place to the starter and a backup that isn't going well.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, but they wouldn't get as much attention.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
It's just again, it's just continued, you know, like an
opportunistic type of approach to things that are going on,
Like why would.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well to that?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Why wouldn't you write it to all thirty two teams?
Rights trying to be on the practice squad right? Like
if you really want to be back and play and
play in the NFL, and you're just asking for an
opportunity to be in the practice squad. Why not write
all thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I mean they be given take a credit. We taking
a step further.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
There's the USFL, there's the XFL that just they just
had a season and you didn't play like you could
have gone out there. If it's so important to you
to be able to prove that you're still in game
shape and game condition and and that you want to
have the weight of J Cole pushing your your letters
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out there, which shouts out to J Cole cost so
best rapper could.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Do a letter for me? Yeah right, I mean yeah,
I don't know who I'd written to, but.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I'll say this, if J Cole did the letter Q
and and made it into like a rap song, that
that would be I would be entertained by that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I know.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
I just got to figure out where where the letter's
going and like what the letter's about. Like right now,
it's just got a blank page. But I'm gonna figure
it out, and I'm gonna try to angle for J
Cole because he did.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
One for summer, he did one for what was Summer's
Brady your name Summer?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But he rejects it.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Why do you have Jay Knox do it? He'll put
it one together for you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Thank you, that's you, Sorry, Jonas Knock. That's what that
genesis like, rapper? You tried to make himself into a rapper.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
But you're already knee capping Petros, which we'll talk to
him with his TV show. I mean, I'm not trying.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
To get too entangled with you. I feel like him
and Buddy across the stage from him.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
But anyway, I just I think that again, I'm so uh,
can I say what.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
We were talking about last night where you got mad
at me?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yes? Please goll it.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Okay, I'm not advocating for this necessarily. I just feel
like the only way the storyline dies is if he
does sign somewhere and goes in somewhere. So my my
position has been give him a shot. It's been seven years,
give him a shot. Let's see what he could do
out there. Actually, I'm now more curious than anything else,
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just to see what it looks like. So yeah, like
I hope that he gets a shot, gets an opportunity,
just so he gets out there and we.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
See what it looks like. You'll never see it.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I know what's going to happen is, first of all,
it's not going to happen. That's first and foremost. That's
fair if it were to happen. If it were to happen,
what's going to happen is he's not even going to
make it through the workout to even get on the
practice Like. It doesn't work like that. We're going to
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just bring you into the practice squad, like you're ready
to go, you're in shape, great, here we go. We're
signing you to the practice squad. You got to come
in and you got to work out for the team. Yeah,
I come in and work out for the team. He's
not even going to get beyond the workout of the team. Like,
are you working out for teams? Because all active free agents,
you know what they're doing. They're working out for teams
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on the off days. They go in, they work out,
and the team says.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, we have a need here.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
We're going to sign this guy to the practice squad,
or we're going to sign this guy to the active roster.
Whatever it could be anything, but you go in and
you work out. It's like, at what point does does
this become a muted a mutant conversation? Like what is
what is the ultimate goal here at this point? What
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it like every single time this flares up, like the
gift that just keeps on given when you go to
the doctor and they're like that we can give you
medicines and that what is the ultimate What's what is
the ultimate takeaway from this?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
What what is Kaepernick trying to do at this point?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Because if it's just played football like I want to
play football, there are thousands, thousands of guys that I
could say are probably at this point today that are
more deserving of an opportunity to get a roster spot
on an NFL team than cal Colin Kaepernick with with all,
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with all the sentimental value or what he has represented
to two causes of social justice and stuff like that.
Put all that aside, Put all those elements aside, and
just look at the player who is who is looking
at a guy name me one, guy that's seven years
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removed from football, that's being looked at seriously to play
on play for a team in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Name me one. I can't can't name you one. You
wouldn't come You're not gonna come close.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Do you understand that's an entire You know how many
years I played in the league? Fellas seven? Damn seven.
He's been retired for the amount of a career he's
been He's been gone for the for the amount of
a career, and if it's on average, he's been gone
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for twice the time of somebody who is out of
the league and isn't playing anymore after three three and
a half years, twice as twice as long. Like at
some point, like, can we just can can? Can can
y'all as a public? Can y'all move on?
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Like?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
At some point?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Don't be outraged that people don't care to hear or
see Colin Kaepernick as it applies to playing football now.
It may be other things that people are into that
that is relevant and God blessed, Like I think that
that's all fine, and it plays its part and it
has its value. But the value of Colin Kaepernick as
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a football player today is gone.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
What about tomorrow, tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
The day after the day after that, and every day
after that one, it's gone. To be a coach, you
want to make a difference, You want to be a
part of football, be a coach or start at the XFL,
U SFL and show people why you're saying what you're saying,
show people why.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
But you've not done that. You've not done anything that.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Would create a narrative where people would be like, I'm intrigued,
like this is a George Foreman story that that's developing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Great, go to the exit except the curtain.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Last night you did not want to talk about the subject.
Now you've talked for like ten minutes about because it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like, I'm done with it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ya can have not Really, I'm out have about the
part in the letter.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I have the part in the letter from j Cole
where Colin Kaepernick says to be on the practice squad,
I would wear that as a badge of honor. And
that's a far that's a far cry from a guy
who wanted nothing to do with the NFL years ago.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Oh it's discuss I was.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Gonna say, yes, called the NFL.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Uh Well, I'm not going to say it. But it's
a bit odd that he's kind of changing course.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Like it wasn't a badge of honor to be a
starting quarterback making seventeen million a year and then you know,
declining the offer to come back and all these other opportunities,
but now be a practice squad member for the Jets.
That would be a badge of honor. Okay, just wondering
what changed. Just curious.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Well, And that's the thing is, like he's been very
outspoken against the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I mean, he.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
The Netflix, you know, Docked where he was on there.
The comments that he made then have to you know,
be be one in which I can't imagine someone would
be willing to bring him on purely for calling the
NFL slavery.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I mean he said that.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
It's just it feels like that's gonna be hard to
overcome for anyone who wants to sign him. And it
is curious to see why he's now changing course because
maybe he sees an opportunity with the New York Jets.
There's been other teams there's been opportunities with in the past,
and I don't know that he's you know, made this
this public display trying to get back into the league,
like LeVar is talking about. So I find it interesting though,
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and my curiosity peaked to the point where I'm like,
the only way this ends is if he gets an opportunity.
So I wish you would have wrote the letter to
all thirty two NFL teams. I think would have made
more sense to do that if you just try to
be on the practice squad and then maybe you get
your foot back in the door and you have a shot.
But there are other leagues out there, the USFL, the XFL,
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there are other opportunities out there. If you really want
to play ball, you can go play ball. And some
people are going to say, who are fans of his? Like,
well he's above that. It's like, well maybe he was
at one point, you know, maybe a year, two, three,
maybe four years out? What's about seven years?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Like I've got a seven year old daughter. I can
tell you how much my life, in her life has
changed in the seven years she's been on this planet.
It's a lot, okay. So I just I think, if
it's genuine, if it's legitimate, send that letter out to
all thirty two teams, and then see if you get
any callbacks and opportunities to try out. And if that
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doesn't work, then go play in the USFL or XFL,
you know, go get your foot back in the door
that way.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, it's uh, listen, he just somehow figures out a
way to pop up every year, and somehow, every single
year figures out a way to eat up an entire segment.
And it's all because LeVar wanted to talk.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I was gonna say I didn't want to talk, but
I'm ready for my read after my ten minute.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Ran BSV two.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
By the way, I know.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
It's BSV two, Thank you. I don't want to mess
that up. I'm more focused then on that than this topic.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Hey, by the way, what does the acronym g f
Y stand.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
For good for you? Okay?
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Yep, just wondering a lot of people say that to you, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Only one, only one find yourself.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
It's uh, my good buddy, my good buddy, who just
seems to fire that off, you know, very very very interesting.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
It doesn't mean go find yourself, does not it's not
what a stance doesn't really mean.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Good for you?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Yeah, of course, yeah, it's the uh, it's the dublin kiss.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I thought it was go and yourself. I got those
two right, right? Did I get those right?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I mean it's not far off from what you said
on the air earlier. So yeah, man, we're in a
dumbworthy mood.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You're on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I mean I was about to say it again. Wow.
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Speaker 5 (30:13):
Right now, it's a Wednesday, so you know what this means.
It's time for the old pe Petros Papadakis the coast
of the Astrosen Money Show, which you can hear on
the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports, also a Fox
college football analyst.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Pee, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Hello, good morning to everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You god, Jonas, I'm tired. Yeah, I mean you had
a doublehead of this past weekend.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I have double headers until the baseball playoffs really start
in Earnest. Damn. Yeah, so I have another double header
this week, all right, and then uh, and then I
think we take a little lull on October.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Hey, you're you're blessed though, brother, A lot of people
want to be in.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Your shoe, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's right. Happy to work, that's right. I have an
interview with Texas Tech in an hour and a half.
All right, oh yeah, shut out the wire. Yeah, just
what I know about it. I think he's out for
a while, Brady. They took him off in an air casts.
But I thought it was interesting because like the guy
literally got like rolled off in an air cast, broke
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his leg. They're like, he could be out this week,
he could be the report I saw, it's like, what
he's coming back? Air casts use you're used for pretty
significant injuries.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So yeah, he broke his leg.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So anyway, it's great to be with you guys a
lot going on. Yes, indeed, hey, hey, now, just.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I was just trying to slide in there during Galls
a nice little conversation. Uh you know, Uh, Brady has
made it very clear that Jonas did something very very
intentional and could be perceived as disrespectful to you, Uh Petros,
and what's that. We just wanted to get your take
on it.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
We don't have to.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Take I've got the full story.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Now give him the full story.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Que, Well, I'm not trying to give the full story.
I was talking about the show that Jonas we saw
that he was on this past summer.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
All happy that Jonas is doing some television, aren't we though,
Yes we.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Are, But I also really enjoyed my guy Petros in that.
And then there was a little bit of debate. But
here's the thing, LeVar doesn't know. I found out the
whole behind the scenes story. So we're very happy for
Jonas in this position.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Oh okay, right.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I used to for your national listeners. I used to
work for sixteen years on the local news show that
comes on after the Sunday night football game. Most everywhere
local news comes on, but on the West Coast you
have a little time to kill. So usually the show
(32:42):
came on like a sports show after the Sunday night
football game, and then dateline and.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Then your local news.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
So for sixteen years I did that show. The guy
I did the show with is not doing the show
this year. He thought he was, so I spent the
summer thinking that I would do the show, so it
was a little awkward, but instead they hired three guys
and one of them is Jonas So and that's great.
(33:15):
I have nothing against Jonas. I told him that he
should do it, and that is all if anybody's wondering
about it. But I was very clear on my show
this year that we're not working this year on Sunday
nights and everything's okay.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
And I reached out to get your blessing. It wasn't
like I did it and just said f you, Petros,
We're taking this and running with it. I wanted to
make sure I got everybody's blessing involved.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Well, we are all just pieces on a board. I mean,
we all just get moved around. And if I was
bitter about getting moved around, I wouldn't be at Fox.
For God's sakes. I've been up and down the ladder
like five times. But no, I just I was not
doing the show this year because Fred's not doing the show,
(34:04):
So I might never do the show again. Yes, not
Joe Rogan.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Although I will say this, the name Judas Knox, which
has made the rounds via your showing on social media,
is pretty fantastic.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I've never said that.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's a pretty tremendous name.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So I helped those thirty pieces of silver are nice
and slug and snug in your bank account. I will
not kiss thee as the Judas, but as the thief,
I will confess thee Lord remembered me.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I'm not constom to thy kingdom.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Ye wow, Petros, how do you feel about this coach
on coach crime in college football?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You got You've got Lou Holts.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
First Ryan Day, You've got Dion Sanders versus Dan Lanning.
It seems like it's really popping up and going off
this year. What do you make all that?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Well?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think that there is there's some marketability in it, right,
Like coaches are seeing if you talk a little less
and act hard, they'll publicize it and you might get
a couple more million people watch your game. Maybe, I
mean it's worked in Colorado's circumstance, Colorado's become the biggest
story in football, probably the most middling team. That's the
(35:21):
biggest story in football that we've had in quite some time.
But it's worked out and ultimately, as we said, you know,
college football is a TV business, and they might have
one big, last last gasp here this weekend. I talked
to Brady a little bit off the air about the
(35:42):
Ryan Day thing, which did surprise me. I did not
know that Blackbeard was that insecure. I really didn't. You know,
you think you pirate. He's going all over the high seeds,
plundering and raping and pillaging timbers. Drink up me yo ho,
(36:02):
you know all that, And that was pretty I mean,
Lou Holtz is eighty six years old, he's a cartoon character,
and nothing he said was off base at all in
every gate. Look, Ohio State had their chain snatched off
their neck debo style the last two years against Michigan,
and that's all that matters to those people. And I'll
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never forget it. I was watching the first game that
they lost, and it was Dan Dierdorf's last call on
the radio, you know, and the snow is gently falling
and Michigan's getting six yards of pop and Harbaugh's taking
their chain, grinding them into nothing, and Deerdorf's crying on
the air. I mean, it was really wild and that
(36:47):
was it. I Mean, you can yell at you, Lou
Holtz all you want, but that's what you're yelling about.
You know, You're yelling about getting your physicality exposed by Michigan.
Now is Ohio State physical enough to knock cam Rising
out of two straight Rose Bowls and win those games
against a team that's supposed to physically dominate the West
(37:08):
coast Utah? Yeah, so we should have some perspective here.
But that whole situation was a lot like, I don't know,
role reversal. Ohio State was trying to act all tough
like Notre Dame, like they're not a finesse team, which
they kind of are, and Notre Dame was trying to
act all stupid like they were Ohio State not having
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eleven guys on the field for the last two plays.
So it was it was interesting but very Howard Dean.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Esque there at the end.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, I mean, which I guess would be fine now too, don't.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Yeah, I was gonna say everything's kind of all allowed nowadays,
in at least a world where social media and things
going viral kind of dominates, right, I mean, you you're
just looking for clicks. You don't care if it's it
makes you look one way or another, as long as
you get attention. It seems like that's what people are
aiming for.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, i mean Dan Lanning knows what he's doing.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Well, here's here like him. But here's what was brilliant
about what he did. He taped it. He taped shallow Sanders.
He taped their play like they took their footage they
used and then they took footage of them knowing that
they were going to get this to then use it
against them after the fact. Like there's no defense of that.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, it's it's it's a little bit like WWE for real,
right right, And that's what football is to all of
us that are behind the scenes. But I mean, it
wasn't wasn't in a little ironic Brady that he was
talking about no flash and yet they have chameleon color
changing shoes. Yes, he's talking about playing on the grass.
(38:43):
Oregon hasn't had grass like since the sixties. Like he's
talking about all of these things there flash, we're there,
we're substances, they're flash. It's like, okay, man whatever, like
I mean, it's it's all pretty funny. Uh, none of
it really matters when the when the ball is kicked,
because it's not like you can play any harder or
(39:05):
try any harder to win in the game of football.
I mean, you're already you already have the hose all
the way on. But uh, yeah, it is. I think
Dion said a little bit of a weird tone, and
it's working early. I mean when it comes to October
and November and if you're good, you're going to be,
(39:25):
you know, really challenged in conference, I don't I mean,
and people get got and talking doesn't really mean as much.
I don't know, I don't know. Uh, it has been
a hell of a september.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Though, talk about it? What what? What has been?
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Uh a september to remember happening happening?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
To remember? Yeah? What what to you? What sticks out? Well?
I mean I just out of Colorado, of course.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well, I mean that's a big part of it though, right,
It's just the the media coverage of Colorado, the fact
that nine million people would watch the Rocky Mountain Showdown.
You know all this stuff about the PAC twelve, and
the weirdest thing about September is the undercover stories that
no one really cares about, which is Tayler Williams is
(40:15):
still the best show in football and USSE is still
exactly the same Defensively. They want to talk about a
finesse team. Ohio State, I mean Ohio State looks like
debo compared to USC, I mean USC is not physical.
Kenny Dillingham, their head coach of Arizona State, took over
(40:36):
the play calling and exposed USC on Saturday. Arizona State
had four of their five offensive linemen out and a
slew of other injuries, especially at quarterback and other positions
that are affecting the team, and they instead just ran
the ball with a Sacramento State transfer. Looked like a
(40:56):
rolling ball of butcher knives. And it was just like
last year USC refused to consistently tackle a running back,
and you look it down the stretch in Oregon and
Washington and Oregon State and UCLA and Notre Dame and
you're just like, how are they going to physically compete
in these games? So very interesting that that happened, that
(41:17):
stood out to me in September, Utah playing Baylor playing Florida,
no quarterback down to their third string quarterback, still undefeated,
and UCLA's young guy Dante More could not meet the
moment in Salt Lake City on Saturday, and that was
interesting to me. Washington State's really good, I.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Was gonna say, And I know you've been on the
Washington train for a while. Now the betting odds have shifted.
Michael Pennis Juniors now the Heisman Trophy favorite at plus
three sixty over Kleb Williams. How impressive has Washington been
for people nationally that haven't gotten a chance to see
Penix in that offense move.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Well, the balls out on time a lot different than Caleb.
You know, Caleb will run around with it and go
to his left and three or four time pump fake
and then fired in there. This guy drops back and
when his foot hits the ground on the fifth step
or the seventh step, the ball's out and it's way
down the field, way down the field to guys like
(42:23):
Romo Dunse who's really good, or McMillan or Polk. I
mean he has the receiving corps. That was his coming
out party. Two years ago he has again or last year,
and then he's got this great offensive line. De Bores
a great old line coach, and it's not piecemeal together
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like USC's. It's a real thing. And they've improved themselves
on defense in the secondary, which is where they really struggled.
And I think they're by far, so far in the season,
the most impressive team in the world. And I think
the one that we really overlooked probably was Washington State
(43:06):
and cam Ward. They have a new offensive coordinator replacing
Eric Morris, who I never thought was a very good
fit there in.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
The first place.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
And Jake Dickert's a really good defensive coach. And I
think Washington State's making a statement as well. And you know,
the Beams are having a good year, but they got
they got exposed. Their quarterback might have got exposed a
little bit dj Ungalle last week. We might need to
get Aiden Chiles.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
A look, the backup who's pretty good, the kid from Downey.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
Is this a season where, like I look at it,
Petros and I think from week zero to now, the
Petrov has been the best conference, like top to bottom,
I think you make the case they've had at times
eight teams in the top twenty five. I think they've
got like six this week because of a couple of
the head to head matchups the packed But is this
(44:01):
a year where you see a team coming out through
the Pac twelve or because of the parody, you think
that they were going to unfortunately suffer in having a
two loss conference champion or not making it in because
the difficulty of schedule, all these teams playing one another.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Well, the Utah thing's kind of weird, right, I mean,
I heard Jason Bennetti say, like they're waiting for the
approval from the California doctor and it's like, wait a minute,
his doctor Cameron.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Going to get backed or something.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
No, like his lay his knee, right, maybe his knee
needs a vaccine. But they that's a little weird, right,
So they seem to be in a screwed up situation
where the team wants them to play, but the family doesn't.
I mean, that's just how I read into that. And
here we are knocking on October and the kid hasn't
played yet, and it's hard to imagine Utah meeting the
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moment every week without that player.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
They're lasting the Pack twelve in passing, right, so that
it's tough.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Oregon or Washington probably I think would have the best
chance to be They look like the two most complete
teams maybe would have the best chance to get all
the way through. But my guess, Brady, is is what
you couched it with, which is I think that they'll
cannibalize each other like they always do. The PAC twelve
(45:23):
doesn't do a great job and never really did of
taking care of their bell cows to make sure that
they get through the season, you know, like the SEC
kind of does, and the Big Ten for that matter.
Speaker 7 (45:36):
Can I give you a stat to throw into that, sure?
Do you know in the college FOOTBA playoff era, we've
never seen a team win that's plays nine conference games.
And on top of that, if you look at the
numbers of how many of the four get in the
conferences as in the ACC SEC, and obviously i'm excluding
like group of five or including group of five in
(45:58):
that they average about two and a half teams per
year on getting into the College football Playoff only playing
eight conference games. So to your point, it's a huge
advantage for whatever reason not playing that additional conference game. Well,
I'll tell you what it is, and you know, It's
been argued about forever and everybody talks about, well, look
at the SEC, the proofs in the pudding and they
win it every year, and that's great. Yes, and they
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are better upfront than the teams in the West Coast, and.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
That's developed d in offensive line.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Over the years.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
But there really is a big difference when you are
desperately clawing through November to get through conference play and
beat your rival, and somewhere in there the SEC plays mercer.
It's just it's a totally different model, and it works
better for the championship model, which is built by ESPN
(46:49):
and the SEC, So it stands to reason that it's
that way. But what people do in November, I think
is the real tail teller, and the PAC twelve in
November is in the most intense, the most heated, the
apex of the war, I guess, or the battle is
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in November for these conferences that play all the games.
And obviously everything's changing next year anyway. But I think
it's a very good point, and I really do think
it's schedule structure.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
Get them on Twitter at the old pe Petros Papa Vegas,
the cost of the Petros and Money show, which you
can hear on the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports,
also a Fox College Football analystp we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Let's do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
All right, Well, don't get your tired, stand up on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Night and come on.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Any tip.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Petros brought a pig on stage at one point. I remember,
I think like four years in a row.
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, How the hell we feel here on a Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
How are you feeling on a Wednesday?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
I'm good, feel.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Yeah, just just hanging out another another glorious morning, some
three hour extravaganza radio Here. We're going to put on
troll display. Yeah, that's what we do here, canza. How
you feeling?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (00:34):
Okay, excited for this show, especially seeing cues notes on
what he wants to talk about him.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Man, we're super excited.
Speaker 7 (00:42):
A lot of random stuff out there yesterday the news.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Super super random. But yeah, don't super excited.
Speaker 7 (00:50):
Don't be all upset just because there's one thing you
don't want to talk about that. I'm just like, I
want to see I want to see it over with.
I'm just that's all I'm saying. Super pumped up about.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
It a little bar. How you feel man?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Pumped up? Yeah? Did you get IV again?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
No, I'm checked up a body.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Did you I do need one? Though?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You got the grain goblin came back a little bit.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Yeah, it's all good though, It's all I know why
it came back because it has a name like hurricanes.
You know, I'm gonna start naming my migraines, and this
one is going to be Migraine Cap.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Migraine what.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Very good. It just keeps coming back every seven years.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
And like hurricane you know Lee or Hurricane you know,
Migraine cap you know.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, well you didn't catch that one yet. I got it.
Speaker 6 (01:51):
You're picking up your I mean because you put it down,
so you should be picking get up.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So can we talk about a not so good football team? Well,
I guess a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Let's talk about but a team that's.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Got some quarterback problems because apparently the New York Jets
are still trying to figure out this whole quarterback thing.
And there's a couple of different aspects to this that
we should point out. A Trevor Simeon was brought in
and signed to the practice squad, so at least they
did make a move at quarterback to bring somebody in.
But he's been signed to the practice squad. Now what
(02:24):
why it's not a Carson Wentz or Matt Ryan who's
rejected the offer. Feels a little strange because if you
were one of those guys and you wanted to come
back on some sort of approve it year, approve it
deal for one year and have an opportunity to show
you can play. There are worse situations and rosters in
the NFL than the Jets.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Correct there are, but I don't know that there's.
Speaker 7 (02:48):
Situations that are available right that that are worse. Like
I would say, I mean, what situations out there outside
of the Jets. Would you say they're looking for a
quarterback to come in? That's a hot d seat to
sit on, because I think the problem with the Jets
is is not only are you are you basically being
asked to make them a playoff team if you don't
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know the system. And on top of that, their offensive
line play hasn't been good, and we saw the Dallas game.
We're seventy percent of the passing snaps. There's pressure on
Zach Wilson throughout some of the other I mean, obviously Rogers's.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Hurt for a reason.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
I mean, is it's not the best scenario just because
it's a situation. I had this conversation with someone yesterday
and it's like, if I'm Matt Ryan, who's made a
ton of money in his career, and I'm looking at
this saying if I come back to play, like I
want to come back to play, probably for a team
that's going to invest in me, You're a lease if
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you come back to play for the Jets this year,
like they're only using you for this year because it's
Rogers team in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So some of these guys, like especially Matt.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
Ryan, who's made hundreds of millions, he might say, look,
if I'm gonna do this, you're gonna pay me well.
And I don't know that the Jets are willing to
pay that much for it, And I don't know that
Matt Ryan wants to step into a scenario where there's
no really long term buying by the team. And then
this is the last thing I'll say, because I think
there's some people out there who are like, well, it's
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better than sitting on your butt at home.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Or maybe not.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
For Matt Ryan, he's made hundreds of millions of dollars,
he's on TV now calling games, he might say.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I don't need to do this now.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
For someone like Carson Wentz, he might say, like, you
know what, I've made millions.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I've made a bunch of money so far.
Speaker 7 (04:38):
I've bounced around with what three different teams, right, he's
been with obviously Philly you drafted him than Indi, than Washington's.
Here's the reality for Carson Wentz to situation. If he
goes to the Jets, he doesn't play well, he's done.
He's done, like he will not get another chance. That'll
be it. And so even though there's a lot of
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people out there who are well, he's not doing anything
right now, he's stayed at home, It's like, well, dude,
hold on for a second. He might have a chance
to be in a better situation, either later on this
year or next year. Because we've seen guys sit out
for a year and still come back where it actually
might be better for his long term for his career,
instead of going to a place like the Jets where
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he might not have any ties, it might be hard
for him to learn that system. So I just think
when when you look at two guys like Wentz and
Matt Ryan have made a lot of money, they could
probably be a little more selective about the situation they
want to step into.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
How much money do you guys think Matt Ryan's made
in his career. I've got the.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Number, it's three hundred, is it.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I mean, LeVar, you want to take a guess at this,
you want to spin the chamber?
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Come on, Yeah, I'm going to go somewhere and around
three hundred and one.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
All right, so labargos three hundred and one. Brady, you're
going to go at three hundred.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You did the prices right now?
Speaker 7 (05:54):
He did like that? I did like mad respect matter.
I didn't know we're playing that game. You just show
peop we're playing that game. I'll give you props on that.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
According to spo Track, Matt Ryan has made three hundred
three million, seven hundred thirteen thousand dollars career.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
Yeah, you get this new woodo, but that's testing on.
You didn't matter if you got the price right, yes, come.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
On down, all right.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
So there is also this story that has popped up
that it that has made the rounds as well too. Well,
it's not quite that one yet. We should point this
out though, according to Rich Semini, who covers the NFL
for ESPN.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And it makes one hell of a pizza.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah does he really? I don't know, well, I mean
he should. Why not?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
By the way, Brady's like ninety four percent Italian? He
could say that joke we're fine here.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
No, no about that much.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
But I have apparently a majority of Italian and that
was according to twenty three at me. Yes, we're actually
contesting right now and the system. But there's a lot
of upset Irish people about that.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, you're an idiots, sound.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
All right?
Speaker 5 (07:12):
So according to rich Samini Us, this report is out
that Robert Sala, the head coach of the New York Jets,
is quote at risk of losing the locker room over
his loyalty to Zach Wilson, and the defense in particular
is quote not happy, and tensions are on the rise,
ready to implode possibly in New York because Robert Sala
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is steadfast in his support of one Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
A little bit problematic, all.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Right, And just listening to what Q had to say,
what about what about just the well, I'm just saying
basing it off of what you just said and some
of the reasoning that Q just gave.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
As a player, you.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Have to be aware of what your your scenario and
your circumstances are what exactly in this scenario, regardless of
if they are Robert slaw, that is, and hit the
decision makers the GM if they're looking for any of
those guys to come back and play, if they're looking
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for a solution outside of Zach Wilson, why would those
players want Robert Salaw to take literally right now presently
their only chance of having some type of way of
winning a few games, even if they were to bring
a quarterback in and that quarterback has to get up
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to speed, why would you want why would you want
Robert Salah to come out publicly and condemn your starting quarterback?
Like why would you as a player, why would you
want that? Why would you want to create that narrative
to the media. Why would you want to leak that
to the media that Robert Sala too loyal to your
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starting coach, I mean to your starting quarterback, Like why.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Would you do that?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Because there's not that great of you know, there's not,
and for what it's worth, For what it's worth, I
know you you're not getting good offense. And I know
this storage resonates or you know, comes from from the defense.
The defense hasn't been as impressive as it could be
either like they they were, they have been figured out
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in games as well. So don't don't put this solely
on at the feet of the quarterback. Sure, he has
had poor play and you could have help from your offense,
specifically from that position, but.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Y'all haven't been stellar, y'all.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Not y'all haven't had performances where you could actually sit
there and say, we're just scruntling, we're upset and we
don't like the fact that he's so loyal to to
to this starting quarterback, y'all haven't y'all haven't given us
reason to sit there and say, yeah, give them a
chance out there playing their hearts out. They've done okay,
but at times they have been figured out. So let's
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not act like, let's not act like you yourselves shouldn't
be looking in the mirror first and saying, let's start
with us and let us do better. And what it
is that we're doing I find out to be a
tap bit perplexing, to be honest, and I just would
wonder why they would want Robert Sila to come out
in the media and in the public and condemn the
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only chance y'all have of trying to salvage games right
now until you find what could possibly be someone who
could give you a better opportunity of winning moving forward.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Does it make sense.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Is it that to you, LeVar or is it you know,
since twenty twenty one when Zach Wilson's got there, they've
never been better than I think like twenty fifth twenty
sixth in the league on offense. I mean, does that
wear on you if you're a if it's the same
guy and you've got a coach who's defending that guy,
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and you're watching it in practice, and you're watching it
in training camp, and then you're watching it in the
season for years now, and you're like, man, this isn't
good enough. I mean I can see where they would
be frustrated because its like a this year the broken record, right.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
And you're right, and they would be correct in that.
But he was brought he was he was made a backup.
They want they want him to just get rid of
them all together, Like get rid of the dude all together.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I mean, he is a draft pick. A draft pick.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
You didn't get rid of him. You made him a backup,
you know what I mean? Like I get but I
think when.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
You looked at last year, okay, the way last year
when we was kind of in and out of the
lineup because they made him a backup at one point
last year, they got behind Mike White. You know, whether
or not you want to say that worked out, it's
like it seemed like the team got behind him, Mike White.
You know, it seemed like the team at least had
a little more juice for him.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
I can just sense, like the frustration of all of it.
When you had what you thought was a future Hall
of Fame quarterback and it all goes to crap in
four plays and now you've got to deal with, you know,
a reoccurring nightmare that was last season.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I can see what they'd be frustrated.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Like that's human nature, right, Like I can understand that
process from from Jets fans.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
All that hard work down to dream because the guy
y'all drafted that is now your backup isn't even good
enough to be a backup that gives you a chance.
That's that's that's the situation you're in. Like I get it.
I could get the frustration, But my whole thing is,
what what is like what don Robert do?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Like why can't he do in this situation? He could
put it.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Trevor Simeon because that's that's who they're gonna end up
elevating to the active roster at something.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
And he has he doesn't have enough to me do
we think that he has enough like game stats and
enough like career career reps where we can sit there
and say, you feel confident that Trevor Simon is going
to come in and be a better a better player
than than Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
That's probably actually like.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
The most defeating thing if you're you know, I mean,
I'm just saying like you're bringing it a guy that
you're looking at and saying like this is we believe
this guy's going to come in and potentially give us
a better shot than Zack Wilson.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It feels like what what what what?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Where are you looking that says that's going to give
you confidence that this is a change that gives us
an opportunity.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It feels like we're going back though, to the same
conversation we had last year, which was Zach Wilson's time
in New York was done the second they benched him.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's really what this comes down to.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
It Becauset's come out and say.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
We don't bang with Zach Wilson getting up out of here.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
We don't.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Rather, I rather have the guy that that we're going
to talk about hour four of the show.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
And you'd rather remember when well done they played. They
played Thursday night last year there was a game against
the Jaguars and Zach Wilson didn't even get through like
the first quarter and Jets fans were booing his ass
off the field. So if all of that was going on,
why was he brought back? Like if I tried to
say this before the season, y'all, Like this was the
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whole point I was trying to make, was they didn't
like I'm sup.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
First off, there's so many different levels of they don't
have faith in him. He doesn't have confidence and faith
in himself. He needed a new start. They needed a
new start. The team, the locker room needed a new
start without Zach Wilson being part of it. And I
understand they would be Look, they'd be in the same
exact spot when Aaron Rodgers got hurt, whether Zach Wilson
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was the.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Backup or not.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
And to now not to I mean, you're not gonna
have any trade value now, especially if you replace him
for Trevor Simeon. Like that's the reality of this. I mean,
you literally are gonna have to just kind of throw
the pick to the wayside. You could have got something
for him this offseason. There had to have been some
team out there that would have given like a sixth
round pick, fifth round pick.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I just I mean a tenth.
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Round pick, same draft class, fourteenth round pick, the.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Same draft class, more commitment from draft capital standpoint, And
the Niners traded Trey Lance for what a fourth round
pick like.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
Yeah, in all seriousness, like the twentieth round pick for
Zach Wilson.
Speaker 7 (15:29):
Think about that for a second. Zach Wilson's at least
played more football. Yeah, he's probably got a little better
tape with him with US Highs than Trey Lance. And
they were able to get a fourth round pick. That's
what the just missed out on.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
I just don't think you're going to get a fourth
round pick for him, not anymore, but get something for.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
It would season before, Yes, they would have.
Speaker 6 (15:53):
I think they would have got a jawbreaker, some Jolly
Joe's and some Mike and Nikes and a couple of dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Hey, by the way, you guys prefer Mike and Ikes.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
What the grape apes? Okay, that's racist. It depends on
they had. There was there was candies that were great grape.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Apes that were in the same family as Jolly Joe's
and Mike.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
And yeah, I'm gonna go hot to Malli's.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
I think hots are like the usual go to, but
like es are good too.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, good call.
Speaker 7 (16:27):
Well we're not going to talk about any other quarterback options.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
We're going to Yeah, well what we set aside sometimes ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Later on, be sure to catch live editions of Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar
Arrington and Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m. Eastern
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Speaker 2 (16:50):
All right, no, I just got it.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
The moment I've been dreading.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I just got to dust off an old topic here,
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've been reading this.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
My gosh, oh, my gosh.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Colin Kaepernick is back.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Apparently he wrote a letter to the New York Jets
asking to join their practice squad. Now there's a rapper
named j Cole, no relation to Kenneth, who released the
letters with permission from Kaepernick, and it says this quote,
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worst case scenario, you see what we have to offer
and you're not that impressed best case scenario, you realize
you have a real weapon at your disposal in the
event you ever need to use it in either of
these scenarios, would be committed to getting your defense ready
week in and week out, all season long, and I
would wear that responsibility like a badge of honor. End quote.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Can I ask a first quick question to that, You
want a statement?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm running the liquor store. I'm tired of this topic.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
My first quick when I read the statement, my first
quick reaction was did you need to see Zach Wilson
not prove out to have those sentiments as why you
should be brought in? Can't you say that for all
thirty two teams right now today, that you could bring
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that to the table without having seen an injury take
place to the starter and a backup that isn't going well.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, but they wouldn't get as much attention.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
It's just again, it's just continued, you know, like an
opportunistic type of approach to things that are going on,
Like why would.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well to that?
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Why wouldn't you write it to all thirty two teams?
Rights trying to be on the practice squad right? Like
if you really want to be back and play and
play in the NFL, and you're just asking for an
opportunity to be in the practice squad. Why not write
all thirty two NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I mean they be given take a credit. We taking
a step further.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
There's the USFL, there's the XFL that just they just
had a season and you didn't play like you could
have gone out there. If it's so important to you
to be able to prove that you're still in game
shape and game condition and and that you want to
have the weight of J Cole pushing your your letters
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out there, which shouts out to J Cole cost so
best rapper could.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Do a letter for me? Yeah right, I mean yeah,
I don't know who I'd written to, but.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
I'll say this, if J Cole did the letter Q
and and made it into like a rap song, that
that would be I would be entertained by that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I know.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
I just got to figure out where where the letter's
going and like what the letter's about. Like right now,
it's just got a blank page. But I'm gonna figure
it out, and I'm gonna try to angle for J
Cole because he did.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
One for summer, he did one for what was Summer's
Brady your name Summer?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But he rejects it.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Why do you have Jay Knox do it? He'll put
it one together for you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
Thank you, that's you, Sorry, Jonas Knock. That's what that
genesis like, rapper? You tried to make himself into a rapper.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
But you're already knee capping Petros, which we'll talk to
him with his TV show. I mean, I'm not trying.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
To get too entangled with you. I feel like him
and Buddy across the stage from him.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
But anyway, I just I think that again, I'm so uh,
can I say what.
Speaker 7 (20:37):
We were talking about last night where you got mad
at me?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yes? Please goll it.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Okay, I'm not advocating for this necessarily. I just feel
like the only way the storyline dies is if he
does sign somewhere and goes in somewhere. So my my
position has been give him a shot. It's been seven years,
give him a shot. Let's see what he could do
out there. Actually, I'm now more curious than anything else,
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just to see what it looks like. So yeah, like
I hope that he gets a shot, gets an opportunity,
just so he gets out there and we.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
See what it looks like. You'll never see it.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
I know what's going to happen is, first of all,
it's not going to happen. That's first and foremost. That's
fair if it were to happen. If it were to happen,
what's going to happen is he's not even going to
make it through the workout to even get on the
practice Like. It doesn't work like that. We're going to
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just bring you into the practice squad, like you're ready
to go, you're in shape, great, here we go. We're
signing you to the practice squad. You got to come
in and you got to work out for the team. Yeah,
I come in and work out for the team. He's
not even going to get beyond the workout of the team. Like,
are you working out for teams? Because all active free agents,
you know what they're doing. They're working out for teams
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on the off days. They go in, they work out,
and the team says.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Okay, we have a need here.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
We're going to sign this guy to the practice squad,
or we're going to sign this guy to the active roster.
Whatever it could be anything, but you go in and
you work out. It's like, at what point does does
this become a muted a mutant conversation? Like what is
what is the ultimate goal here at this point? What
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it like every single time this flares up, like the
gift that just keeps on given when you go to
the doctor and they're like that we can give you
medicines and that what is the ultimate What's what is
the ultimate takeaway from this?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
What what is Kaepernick trying to do at this point?
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Because if it's just played football like I want to
play football, there are thousands, thousands of guys that I
could say are probably at this point today that are
more deserving of an opportunity to get a roster spot
on an NFL team than cal Colin Kaepernick with with all,
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with all the sentimental value or what he has represented
to two causes of social justice and stuff like that.
Put all that aside, Put all those elements aside, and
just look at the player who is who is looking
at a guy name me one, guy that's seven years
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removed from football, that's being looked at seriously to play
on play for a team in the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Name me one. I can't can't name you one. You
wouldn't come You're not gonna come close.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Do you understand that's an entire You know how many
years I played in the league? Fellas seven? Damn seven.
He's been retired for the amount of a career he's
been He's been gone for the for the amount of
a career, and if it's on average, he's been gone
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for twice the time of somebody who is out of
the league and isn't playing anymore after three three and
a half years, twice as twice as long. Like at
some point, like, can we just can can? Can can
y'all as a public? Can y'all move on?
Speaker 7 (24:16):
Like?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
At some point?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Don't be outraged that people don't care to hear or
see Colin Kaepernick as it applies to playing football now.
It may be other things that people are into that
that is relevant and God blessed, Like I think that
that's all fine, and it plays its part and it
has its value. But the value of Colin Kaepernick as
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a football player today is gone.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
What about tomorrow, tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
The day after the day after that, and every day
after that one, it's gone. To be a coach, you
want to make a difference, You want to be a
part of football, be a coach or start at the XFL,
U SFL and show people why you're saying what you're saying,
show people why.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
But you've not done that. You've not done anything that.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
Would create a narrative where people would be like, I'm intrigued,
like this is a George Foreman story that that's developing.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Great, go to the exit except the curtain.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Last night you did not want to talk about the subject.
Now you've talked for like ten minutes about because it's just.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like, I'm done with it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Ya can have not Really, I'm out have about the
part in the letter.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
I have the part in the letter from j Cole
where Colin Kaepernick says to be on the practice squad,
I would wear that as a badge of honor. And
that's a far that's a far cry from a guy
who wanted nothing to do with the NFL years ago.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Oh it's discuss I was.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Gonna say, yes, called the NFL.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
Uh Well, I'm not going to say it. But it's
a bit odd that he's kind of changing course.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Like it wasn't a badge of honor to be a
starting quarterback making seventeen million a year and then you know,
declining the offer to come back and all these other opportunities,
but now be a practice squad member for the Jets.
That would be a badge of honor. Okay, just wondering
what changed. Just curious.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Well, And that's the thing is, like he's been very
outspoken against the NFL.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
I mean, he.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
The Netflix, you know, Docked where he was on there.
The comments that he made then have to you know,
be be one in which I can't imagine someone would
be willing to bring him on purely for calling the
NFL slavery.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
I mean he said that.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
It's just it feels like that's gonna be hard to
overcome for anyone who wants to sign him. And it
is curious to see why he's now changing course because
maybe he sees an opportunity with the New York Jets.
There's been other teams there's been opportunities with in the past,
and I don't know that he's you know, made this
this public display trying to get back into the league,
like LeVar is talking about. So I find it interesting though,
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and my curiosity peaked to the point where I'm like,
the only way this ends is if he gets an opportunity.
So I wish you would have wrote the letter to
all thirty two NFL teams. I think would have made
more sense to do that if you just try to
be on the practice squad and then maybe you get
your foot back in the door and you have a shot.
But there are other leagues out there, the USFL, the XFL,
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there are other opportunities out there. If you really want
to play ball, you can go play ball. And some
people are going to say, who are fans of his? Like,
well he's above that. It's like, well maybe he was
at one point, you know, maybe a year, two, three,
maybe four years out? What's about seven years?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Like I've got a seven year old daughter. I can
tell you how much my life, in her life has
changed in the seven years she's been on this planet.
It's a lot, okay. So I just I think, if
it's genuine, if it's legitimate, send that letter out to
all thirty two teams, and then see if you get
any callbacks and opportunities to try out. And if that
(27:57):
doesn't work, then go play in the USFL or XFL,
you know, go get your foot back in the door
that way.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, it's uh, listen, he just somehow figures out a
way to pop up every year, and somehow, every single
year figures out a way to eat up an entire segment.
And it's all because LeVar wanted to talk.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
I was gonna say I didn't want to talk, but
I'm ready for my read after my ten minute.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Ran BSV two.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
By the way, I know.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
It's BSV two, Thank you. I don't want to mess
that up. I'm more focused then on that than this topic.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Hey, by the way, what does the acronym g f
Y stand.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
For good for you? Okay?
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Yep, just wondering a lot of people say that to you, Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Only one, only one find yourself.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
It's uh, my good buddy, my good buddy, who just
seems to fire that off, you know, very very very interesting.
Speaker 8 (28:52):
It doesn't mean go find yourself, does not it's not
what a stance doesn't really mean.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Good for you?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Yeah, of course, yeah, it's the uh, it's the dublin kiss.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
I thought it was go and yourself. I got those
two right, right? Did I get those right?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I mean it's not far off from what you said
on the air earlier. So yeah, man, we're in a
dumbworthy mood.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
You're on a Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
I mean I was about to say it again. Wow.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
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Speaker 3 (29:37):
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Speaker 5 (30:13):
Right now, it's a Wednesday, so you know what this means.
It's time for the old pe Petros Papadakis the coast
of the Astrosen Money Show, which you can hear on
the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports, also a Fox
college football analyst.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Pee, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Hello, good morning to everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
You god, Jonas, I'm tired. Yeah, I mean you had
a doublehead of this past weekend.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I have double headers until the baseball playoffs really start
in Earnest. Damn. Yeah, so I have another double header
this week, all right, and then uh, and then I
think we take a little lull on October.
Speaker 7 (30:49):
Hey, you're you're blessed though, brother, A lot of people
want to be in.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Your shoe, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
That's right. Happy to work, that's right. I have an
interview with Texas Tech in an hour and a half.
All right, oh yeah, shut out the wire. Yeah, just
what I know about it. I think he's out for
a while, Brady. They took him off in an air casts.
But I thought it was interesting because like the guy
literally got like rolled off in an air cast, broke
(31:15):
his leg. They're like, he could be out this week,
he could be the report I saw, it's like, what
he's coming back? Air casts use you're used for pretty
significant injuries.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
So yeah, he broke his leg.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
So anyway, it's great to be with you guys a
lot going on. Yes, indeed, hey, hey, now, just.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I was just trying to slide in there during Galls
a nice little conversation. Uh you know, Uh, Brady has
made it very clear that Jonas did something very very
intentional and could be perceived as disrespectful to you, Uh Petros,
and what's that. We just wanted to get your take
on it.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
We don't have to.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
Take I've got the full story.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Now give him the full story.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
Que, Well, I'm not trying to give the full story.
I was talking about the show that Jonas we saw
that he was on this past summer.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
All happy that Jonas is doing some television, aren't we though,
Yes we.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Are, But I also really enjoyed my guy Petros in that.
And then there was a little bit of debate. But
here's the thing, LeVar doesn't know. I found out the
whole behind the scenes story. So we're very happy for
Jonas in this position.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Oh okay, right.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
I used to for your national listeners. I used to
work for sixteen years on the local news show that
comes on after the Sunday night football game. Most everywhere
local news comes on, but on the West Coast you
have a little time to kill. So usually the show
(32:42):
came on like a sports show after the Sunday night
football game, and then dateline and.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Then your local news.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
So for sixteen years I did that show. The guy
I did the show with is not doing the show
this year. He thought he was, so I spent the
summer thinking that I would do the show, so it
was a little awkward, but instead they hired three guys
and one of them is Jonas So and that's great.
(33:15):
I have nothing against Jonas. I told him that he
should do it, and that is all if anybody's wondering
about it. But I was very clear on my show
this year that we're not working this year on Sunday
nights and everything's okay.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
And I reached out to get your blessing. It wasn't
like I did it and just said f you, Petros,
We're taking this and running with it. I wanted to
make sure I got everybody's blessing involved.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Well, we are all just pieces on a board. I mean,
we all just get moved around. And if I was
bitter about getting moved around, I wouldn't be at Fox.
For God's sakes. I've been up and down the ladder
like five times. But no, I just I was not
doing the show this year because Fred's not doing the show,
(34:04):
So I might never do the show again. Yes, not
Joe Rogan.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Although I will say this, the name Judas Knox, which
has made the rounds via your showing on social media,
is pretty fantastic.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I've never said that.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
It's a pretty tremendous name.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So I helped those thirty pieces of silver are nice
and slug and snug in your bank account. I will
not kiss thee as the Judas, but as the thief,
I will confess thee Lord remembered me.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I'm not constom to thy kingdom.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Ye wow, Petros, how do you feel about this coach
on coach crime in college football?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
You got You've got Lou Holts.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
First Ryan Day, You've got Dion Sanders versus Dan Lanning.
It seems like it's really popping up and going off
this year. What do you make all that?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Well?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
I think that there is there's some marketability in it, right,
Like coaches are seeing if you talk a little less
and act hard, they'll publicize it and you might get
a couple more million people watch your game. Maybe, I
mean it's worked in Colorado's circumstance, Colorado's become the biggest
story in football, probably the most middling team. That's the
(35:21):
biggest story in football that we've had in quite some time.
But it's worked out and ultimately, as we said, you know,
college football is a TV business, and they might have
one big, last last gasp here this weekend. I talked
to Brady a little bit off the air about the
(35:42):
Ryan Day thing, which did surprise me. I did not
know that Blackbeard was that insecure. I really didn't. You know,
you think you pirate. He's going all over the high seeds,
plundering and raping and pillaging timbers. Drink up me yo ho,
(36:02):
you know all that, And that was pretty I mean,
Lou Holtz is eighty six years old, he's a cartoon character,
and nothing he said was off base at all in
every gate. Look, Ohio State had their chain snatched off
their neck debo style the last two years against Michigan,
and that's all that matters to those people. And I'll
(36:25):
never forget it. I was watching the first game that
they lost, and it was Dan Dierdorf's last call on
the radio, you know, and the snow is gently falling
and Michigan's getting six yards of pop and Harbaugh's taking
their chain, grinding them into nothing, and Deerdorf's crying on
the air. I mean, it was really wild and that
(36:47):
was it. I Mean, you can yell at you, Lou
Holtz all you want, but that's what you're yelling about.
You know, You're yelling about getting your physicality exposed by Michigan.
Now is Ohio State physical enough to knock cam Rising
out of two straight Rose Bowls and win those games
against a team that's supposed to physically dominate the West
(37:08):
coast Utah? Yeah, so we should have some perspective here.
But that whole situation was a lot like, I don't know,
role reversal. Ohio State was trying to act all tough
like Notre Dame, like they're not a finesse team, which
they kind of are, and Notre Dame was trying to
act all stupid like they were Ohio State not having
(37:29):
eleven guys on the field for the last two plays.
So it was it was interesting but very Howard Dean.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Esque there at the end.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, I mean, which I guess would be fine now too, don't.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Yeah, I was gonna say everything's kind of all allowed nowadays,
in at least a world where social media and things
going viral kind of dominates, right, I mean, you you're
just looking for clicks. You don't care if it's it
makes you look one way or another, as long as
you get attention. It seems like that's what people are
aiming for.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Well, i mean Dan Lanning knows what he's doing.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
Well, here's here like him. But here's what was brilliant
about what he did. He taped it. He taped shallow Sanders.
He taped their play like they took their footage they
used and then they took footage of them knowing that
they were going to get this to then use it
against them after the fact. Like there's no defense of that.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, it's it's it's a little bit like WWE for real,
right right, And that's what football is to all of
us that are behind the scenes. But I mean, it
wasn't wasn't in a little ironic Brady that he was
talking about no flash and yet they have chameleon color
changing shoes. Yes, he's talking about playing on the grass.
(38:43):
Oregon hasn't had grass like since the sixties. Like he's
talking about all of these things there flash, we're there,
we're substances, they're flash. It's like, okay, man whatever, like
I mean, it's it's all pretty funny. Uh, none of
it really matters when the when the ball is kicked,
because it's not like you can play any harder or
(39:05):
try any harder to win in the game of football.
I mean, you're already you already have the hose all
the way on. But uh, yeah, it is. I think
Dion said a little bit of a weird tone, and
it's working early. I mean when it comes to October
and November and if you're good, you're going to be,
(39:25):
you know, really challenged in conference, I don't I mean,
and people get got and talking doesn't really mean as much.
I don't know, I don't know. Uh, it has been
a hell of a september.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Though, talk about it? What what? What has been?
Speaker 6 (39:45):
Uh a september to remember happening happening?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
To remember? Yeah? What what to you? What sticks out? Well?
I mean I just out of Colorado, of course.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
Well, I mean that's a big part of it though, right,
It's just the the media coverage of Colorado, the fact
that nine million people would watch the Rocky Mountain Showdown.
You know all this stuff about the PAC twelve, and
the weirdest thing about September is the undercover stories that
no one really cares about, which is Tayler Williams is
(40:15):
still the best show in football and USSE is still
exactly the same Defensively. They want to talk about a
finesse team. Ohio State, I mean Ohio State looks like
debo compared to USC, I mean USC is not physical.
Kenny Dillingham, their head coach of Arizona State, took over
(40:36):
the play calling and exposed USC on Saturday. Arizona State
had four of their five offensive linemen out and a
slew of other injuries, especially at quarterback and other positions
that are affecting the team, and they instead just ran
the ball with a Sacramento State transfer. Looked like a
(40:56):
rolling ball of butcher knives. And it was just like
last year USC refused to consistently tackle a running back,
and you look it down the stretch in Oregon and
Washington and Oregon State and UCLA and Notre Dame and
you're just like, how are they going to physically compete
in these games? So very interesting that that happened, that
(41:17):
stood out to me in September, Utah playing Baylor playing Florida,
no quarterback down to their third string quarterback, still undefeated,
and UCLA's young guy Dante More could not meet the
moment in Salt Lake City on Saturday, and that was
interesting to me. Washington State's really good, I.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Was gonna say, And I know you've been on the
Washington train for a while. Now the betting odds have shifted.
Michael Pennis Juniors now the Heisman Trophy favorite at plus
three sixty over Kleb Williams. How impressive has Washington been
for people nationally that haven't gotten a chance to see
Penix in that offense move.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Well, the balls out on time a lot different than Caleb.
You know, Caleb will run around with it and go
to his left and three or four time pump fake
and then fired in there. This guy drops back and
when his foot hits the ground on the fifth step
or the seventh step, the ball's out and it's way
down the field, way down the field to guys like
(42:23):
Romo Dunse who's really good, or McMillan or Polk. I
mean he has the receiving corps. That was his coming
out party. Two years ago he has again or last year,
and then he's got this great offensive line. De Bores
a great old line coach, and it's not piecemeal together
(42:46):
like USC's. It's a real thing. And they've improved themselves
on defense in the secondary, which is where they really struggled.
And I think they're by far, so far in the season,
the most impressive team in the world. And I think
the one that we really overlooked probably was Washington State
(43:06):
and cam Ward. They have a new offensive coordinator replacing
Eric Morris, who I never thought was a very good
fit there in.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
The first place.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
And Jake Dickert's a really good defensive coach. And I
think Washington State's making a statement as well. And you know,
the Beams are having a good year, but they got
they got exposed. Their quarterback might have got exposed a
little bit dj Ungalle last week. We might need to
get Aiden Chiles.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
A look, the backup who's pretty good, the kid from Downey.
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:41):
Is this a season where, like I look at it,
Petros and I think from week zero to now, the
Petrov has been the best conference, like top to bottom,
I think you make the case they've had at times
eight teams in the top twenty five. I think they've
got like six this week because of a couple of
the head to head matchups the packed But is this
(44:01):
a year where you see a team coming out through
the Pac twelve or because of the parody, you think
that they were going to unfortunately suffer in having a
two loss conference champion or not making it in because
the difficulty of schedule, all these teams playing one another.
Speaker 4 (44:17):
Well, the Utah thing's kind of weird, right, I mean,
I heard Jason Bennetti say, like they're waiting for the
approval from the California doctor and it's like, wait a minute,
his doctor Cameron.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Going to get backed or something.
Speaker 4 (44:30):
No, like his lay his knee, right, maybe his knee
needs a vaccine. But they that's a little weird, right,
So they seem to be in a screwed up situation
where the team wants them to play, but the family doesn't.
I mean, that's just how I read into that. And
here we are knocking on October and the kid hasn't
played yet, and it's hard to imagine Utah meeting the
(44:52):
moment every week without that player.
Speaker 7 (44:56):
They're lasting the Pack twelve in passing, right, so that
it's tough.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Oregon or Washington probably I think would have the best
chance to be They look like the two most complete
teams maybe would have the best chance to get all
the way through. But my guess, Brady, is is what
you couched it with, which is I think that they'll
cannibalize each other like they always do. The PAC twelve
(45:23):
doesn't do a great job and never really did of
taking care of their bell cows to make sure that
they get through the season, you know, like the SEC
kind of does, and the Big Ten for that matter.
Speaker 7 (45:36):
Can I give you a stat to throw into that, sure?
Do you know in the college FOOTBA playoff era, we've
never seen a team win that's plays nine conference games.
And on top of that, if you look at the
numbers of how many of the four get in the
conferences as in the ACC SEC, and obviously i'm excluding
like group of five or including group of five in
(45:58):
that they average about two and a half teams per
year on getting into the College football Playoff only playing
eight conference games. So to your point, it's a huge
advantage for whatever reason not playing that additional conference game. Well,
I'll tell you what it is, and you know, It's
been argued about forever and everybody talks about, well, look
at the SEC, the proofs in the pudding and they
win it every year, and that's great. Yes, and they
(46:19):
are better upfront than the teams in the West Coast, and.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
That's developed d in offensive line.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Over the years.
Speaker 4 (46:26):
But there really is a big difference when you are
desperately clawing through November to get through conference play and
beat your rival, and somewhere in there the SEC plays mercer.
It's just it's a totally different model, and it works
better for the championship model, which is built by ESPN
(46:49):
and the SEC, So it stands to reason that it's
that way. But what people do in November, I think
is the real tail teller, and the PAC twelve in
November is in the most intense, the most heated, the
apex of the war, I guess, or the battle is
(47:12):
in November for these conferences that play all the games.
And obviously everything's changing next year anyway. But I think
it's a very good point, and I really do think
it's schedule structure.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
Get them on Twitter at the old pe Petros Papa Vegas,
the cost of the Petros and Money show, which you
can hear on the blowtorch Am five seventy LA Sports,
also a Fox College Football analystp we appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Let's do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
All right, Well, don't get your tired, stand up on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Night and come on.
Speaker 4 (47:46):
Any tip.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
Petros brought a pig on stage at one point. I remember,
I think like four years in a row.
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