September 28, 2023 • 38 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jonas and LaVar preview Thursday Night Football between the Packers and Lions. Reality is kicking in for the Jets fans and expect more Taylor Swift sightings on “ICYMI.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here
coming up on this Thursday edition. It is a big,
big day in Wisconsin. Of course, you've got Week four
kicking off later on tonight. You got the Lions at
the Packers, maybe Green Bay looking for a little bit
of revenge, But how about Dame Lillard of Milwaukee Buck.
We will get into that, well, at least kind of. Plus,
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we're gonna talk about the story in the NFL that
will not go away. No, not Colin Kaepernick, but what
the hell is happening with the New York Jets. Aaron
Rodgers ways in. Robert Sala responds. We're also going to
have another edition of in case you missed it. We're
gonna look ahead to two key matchups in the NFL
this weekend with storylines. One involves an X and the
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mimic over the past couple of years. Plus, we're also
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Yeah, so let's do it.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Then we do start because it is a big, big
morning and a big day of celebration and anticipation for
a certain part of the country. And that part of
the country would be the state of Wisconsin. Because our
fine affiliate on the game ten seventy in Madison, they
are listening to this and they're feeling pretty good about things.
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First and foremost, we've got Week four, the NFL kick
it off later on tonight, You've got the Lions, and
you've got the Packers. Now, Detroit is favored, they're a
one and a half point favorite going into this game,
but probably a little bit of revenge on the mind
of the Packers considering the last time these two teams
played at lambeau Field. It was Aaron Rodgers' final game.
Because Detroit as an underdog winning on the final week
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of the season, green Bay with an opportunity to clinch
a playoff spot, and the Lions put it on them
and got it done. Thus the momentum for the fighting
Dan Campbell's and the Detroit Lions as they had into
this season.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The fighting Dan Campbell's that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, I'll say this, both teams, both teams are two
on one. Green Bay had a tremendous comeback in this
last game that they played in to be able to win. Uh,
it looks as though they're they're getting healthy. I'm not
certain is is Christian Watson up this game? I think
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Christian Watson and Aaron Jones, I believe. I think. I'm
sitting here trying to check. But I do think that
they're playing.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's still up in there.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It's questionable, questionable. Yeah, if if they have, if they
have Aaron Jones and Christian Watson and Jay R.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Alexander, if if they are playing, and they're if they're
playing at you know, at the level they're supposed to
be playing at, jonas this, I think this is going.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
To be a good game.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
If they're not playing, especially Aaron Jones out of the
out of the three I just named, I think that's
going to be a I think that'll be a tough
game for Green Bay to be.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Able to win. I think they got well.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, now, I'll just say I'll be honest with you.
I actually hope the game is awful. I hope the
game is terrible. I hope the game sucks. I hope
people have complaints, because the worse the game is, the better.
Al Michaels gets That's what I'm looking for. I want
al Michaels tearing down lambeau Field. I want him criticizing
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what there is to do in the in the state
of Wisconsin and entered around Green Bay. I want I
want him ripping cheese Kurds. I want him ripping the
color scheme of the Packers. I want al Michaels, the
red ass, the curmudgeon who's just letting it fly in
probably the final stages of his broadcasting career, to just
have something to work with. And the worse the football
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game is, the better for al Michaels and all of
us watching.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's what I want, man. But why you want? Damn?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's funny, damn, But I mean, what does that have
to really do with the game?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Though?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I love that that's your your expectation or your hope
for what takes place, But.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
You know, this is a divisional a divisional game.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
The North is an interesting, an interesting topic of conversation
if you are a football fan. I would have to
I would have to say that it's one of the
more intriguing storylines that will develop this year, this season
because we really don't know what the NFC North is.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Outside of well, we do.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Know what the NFC North is in terms of what
the Chicago Bears represent to the NFC North, But well, yeah,
I mean it just is what it is with that, right,
But but I think otherwise, I think we're trying to
figure out who Jordan Love is and what this post
post Aaron Rodgers, Uh, you know, tenure or or era,
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and you know what, what is it?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I think so far, I think people.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Are excited about, you know, Jordan Love and what he
brings to the to the table. But then now you're wondering, Okay,
is it is it really Detroit? Is it really the
Detroit Lines? Time to be a a team that dominates
the NFC North over what Green Bay has been to
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the North so far for for the amount of time
that they've been so and then you know, obviously the Vikings,
they they seem to be kind of a I don't
know what you say, mid level team right now, a
mid team where so do we want to say there
they're a poor team, a subpar team because they haven't won,
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or do we say they're a mid team that's off
to a slow start. I just don't know what we
have in the NFC North. But if I do know
something kind of definitively, I think whatever the NFC North is,
it has a ton of defining in tonight's game, you
know so, And I'm sure that's what both coaches are saying.
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I'm sure Laflora is telling his guys that, you know,
Detroit thinks that they're the big bad wolf on the block,
they're the bully on the block, and we got to
show them that we're still Green Bay. Let's go out
there and punch them in the mouth. While I think
Dan Campbell is saying, you know, let's beat a big
bad wolf, Let's beat a big bad bully on the block,
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and let's make this a reality the Green Bay in
front of the entire country on a primetime game tonight.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
So there's a lot of motivation that is.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Connected to this game, Jonas, and I think that that's
what's going to make it a little bit more entertaining
for everybody watching, including out Michaels.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, the betting odds would say this as it pertains
to this game and this division, the NFC North, which
features the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay Packers, a bad
Vikings team, and the Chicago Bears that are the diaper
fire of sports right now, both these teams are sitting
at two to one. They're both atought the division, but
it is the Lions at a minus one to h
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five on DraftKings, it is the favorite to win the division.
Now Green Bay's not far behind. They're sitting at plus
one thirty five. I think the reviews on Jordan Love
have been more positive than maybe some people expected. But
Detroit is still expected, at least as of right now
before this game tonight, to win that division based on
the betting odds. Now, if you're a Packers fan and
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you're somebody in Wisconsin, you're probably looking at that going okay, well,
that doesn't seem like good news. But step right up,
National Basketball Association, because how about Damian Lillard and our
friends listening on the game in Wisconsin and on ten
seventy in Madison. You've got a brand new partner in
crime in Milwaukee with Giannis and Tetakoumpo. Damian Lillard is
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now Milwaukee Buck is part of a three three team
deal that went down yesterday. So all that conversation about
the Miami Heat and I'm not going anywhere but the
Miami Heat and the Milwaukee Bucks swipe in and steal
him and get him to Milwaukee. And now Dame Loward
is in Milwaukee's a Buck? How about that?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Okay, So so now crow barring Dame Lillard going into
the cheese Kurds territory. Yeah, what what did the what
did the Bucks have to give up?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
A lot?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Did they have to give up any players?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Drew Holliday was one of them they gave up. Yeah,
so there was a lot and obviously you know Portland's involved.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Was that the only was that the only big name
from from the Bucks, like they didn't have to give
up Like, uh, who am I thinking of as a
Singleton Middleton?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
No, Middleton Middleton.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, Middleton was not part of the deal.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
But so then they have they have a big three.
Then they still have a big three.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, so they're they're they're pretty loaded the Milwaukee Bucks are.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, that's not pretty loaded. That's that's that's loaded.
That is loaded. And and Dan Lillard is one of
those guys You're going to get what what you paid for,
Like he's he's going to be what what's advertised when
he gets there. So that should be interesting to see
how that plays out. And that is a win on
game day for for Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
But uh, I.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Still think it comes down to how does how does
Green Bay's defense hold up against that physical offensive front
of the Detroit line, and how will that how will
that play out? Because you know, this is like I mean,
I guess you could say there could be picking rolls
and rolling to to the uh to the paint on
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in in football term, and but this definitely is going
to be a game where you see finesse versus versus
brute strength, and that brute strength is the running game
and the offensive front of the Detroit Lions. That's that's
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you know they play, That's what they're bringing to the table.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
They play physical Detroit outdoors. It's not quite cold yet,
but outdoors. You know, maybe Dame will be in attendance
to watch the Packers as underdogs take on the Lions.
Like this is a big night, man, big night Lee
de lapse of Packers fan. You know he's gonna get
mangled later on at a sports bar watching that game.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
This game.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
That's a that's a big ass win if they can
win this game. Yeah, so that's gonna be a big if,
though especially if they don't have Aaron Jones and if
they have Christian Watson. I think they are definitely and
proud position to be able to do what it is
that you know, they could possibly do an upset victory,
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but that's going to be a tall task.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, it's going to be a fun day of events,
a big celebration day potentially for the entire state of Wisconsin.
They get a superstar with Giannis, They've got a football
game coming up with the Green Bay Packers and the
Detroit Lions, and we have got a three hour extravagance
ourselves here on Fox Sports Radio. He's LeVar Arrington. I'm
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I don't know if you know this or not, but
the start to the New York Jets season has not
gone the way a lot of people thought it would. No, Yeah,
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it's been a little bit disappointing. Aaron Rodgers injury, all
that fun stuff to go along with it. We've obviously
chronicled and covered the entire saga of Rogers to the
Jets all the way in the offseason, the hard knocks,
everything that went along with it. Well, the latest sort
of I guess twist, as we discussed yesterday, was that
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there was a report from Rich Semini of ESPN that
you know, Robert Salaz in danger of potentially losing the
locker room because you know, his loyalty to Zach Wilson
and maybe players especially on defense, or just fed up
with it because they're not getting quality quarterback play and
this is.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Multiple years in a row. But the defense is very good,
and so you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Know, we discussed all all of that yesterday and the
Trevor Simeon signing and all of that. Well, Aaron Rodgers
was on the Pat McAfee show starring AJ Hawk, and
he had some criticism for just sort of the sideline meltdowns.
You had Michael Carter, I believe, who was yelling at
his running backs coach. Looked like they had to be separated.
You had Garrett Wilson and Zach Wilson going at it
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at times, and so Robert Solo was asked about the
criticism from Roger saying, we need to grow up a
little bit on offense. We can't keep fighting with each other.
And here was the Jets head coach response.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
You know, I've said it with with Aaron. He's he's
as much of a coach as he is a player,
and he's been around youth, and he's been around adversity,
and he's he's seen it all. And uh, you know,
for him to recognize that and talk through it, I
think he's he's not wrong and that we've when you
have frustration, it's easy to to kind of look for
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answers when sometimes the most important answer is inward and
that's h and that's the only way you can defeat
adversity is to look inward and find find ways to
be be your personal best. So as it pertains to
what he said, you know, it's he's not wrong. But
at the same time, it's a bunch of young guys
showing a little bit of frustration, so they'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, so they're going to be all right.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Okay, So Aaron Rodgers went on Pat McAfee's show and said,
what let's keep let's I want to make sure that
to our listeners that it's in context.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So he talked about the issues on the sideline, and
he talked about all of the stuff that happened Garrett Wilson,
Zach Wilson, Michael Carter yelling at his running back coach,
and Aaron Rodgers said, you know, we need to grow
up a little bit on offense. We can't, we can't
let that stuff happen, so on and so forth, offered
some criticism for the behavior and things like that.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, you know, I think Aaron Rodgers is probably I'm
assuming Aaron Rodgers is very well respected in that locker room.
So I don't think he would have made that type
of comment on on his his his weekly hit with
with Pat if he didn't feel confident in his standing
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with the team. I wonder how the team will react.
Is that something that you brush off? Is it something
that you and eternalize and you say, we need to
be better at what it is that you know, how
we're handling our business and you know, stay stay as
a united front. I think that the amount of drama
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that is playing out and it's playing out in the media.
Everything is being kind of you know, I don't want
to say nitpicked, but it's going to get covered because
of the market that the Jets are in. They're a
relevant team, although it's not relevant from winning. It's just
it's a relevant team because of the market. Again once
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that once again what they're in and and so to me,
I wonder how the players received hearing those criticisms from
a player that is one of the greats to ever
do it, but still has yet to have done that
with the team he's with for one for two. This
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is a team that is, as Robert Salah mentioned, it
is a young team, and you are going to see
moments of frustration because I think they too, just like
everyone else onlooking felt as though this was probably going
to be a really, really good year for them and
they're not having that success. So I just think that
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there's a lot of frustration and there's going to be
a lot of coverage. You're going to look at what
Robert Salah looks like. Robert sala is on the sideline
and he's standing there with with that kind of like
a stoic, you know, face. He's maintaining right, like he's
kind of maintaining guys, but it's still it's almost like
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a military look. You know, it's like you you know
how bad it is. But he doesn't want anybody onlooking,
and he knows the cameras on him, so he doesn't
want anybody to see him making facial expressions or you know,
flailing his arms or you know. He's not showing any
type of outward frustration. He looks composed and poised as
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the head coach, and I give him a lot of
credit for that, because I'm sure it's got to be
a lot of pressure on him being in the position
that he's in right now. But again, as a team,
I'm sure there's a lot of pressure on this team
to have a good year, to perform. I think that
they had a lot of cachet coming into the season.
And I think one thing you got to keep in
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mind as well, is there is there is the idea
that the Jets are the second team in New York,
and this would be a great opportunity for the Jets
to you know, gain some some maybe you call maybe
market share, or gain some you know, some ground in
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terms of how they're viewed in the New York Market.
You know, these guys go out. When I went to
the New York Giants, first thing I realized I was
going out, you know, we were going to the same place.
This is the Jets, and so you're seeing you're seeing
New York Jets in the same you know, places that
that New York Giants are going, and I immediately felt like,
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you know, we were better than them. N you know, yeah,
I mean, I just is what it is. That was
just kind of like the kind of like the feeling like,
all right, it's like the Jets over there. You know,
they're driving a you know, I don't know, a nice
you know, a nice Mustang, you know what I mean,
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it's a real nice Mustang. But we're coming in and
we're driving you know Bentley. You know where the Bentley.
They're the they're the Mustang.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So let me ask you this because I don't mean
to interrupt, but let me ask you this. So you're
in Manhattan. You walk up to Marquee in Manhattan, which
I've actually been to. I don't even know if it's
still open, but I just remember somebody waking me up,
like one of the bus boys because I had passed
out because I was annihilated sitting downstairs.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So I mean just out cold. But and I just
remember saying, sir, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And I just stumbled into like some some euro card,
some street street food card that was selling euros outside.
But you walk, you walk into Marquee, which players from
the Jets, do you recall getting table service before? Just
because you were a giant, like who on the Jets
was like second fiddle to you as you walked into
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some of these clubs in Manhattan.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I don't remember names, Come on, I don't. I really
don't remember. I mean, you gotta keep in mind, I
was only there for a cup of coffee.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Literally, I was only there long enough to get a
couple and the coffee was still hot before I even
you know, before I was done playing there. But I
do recall going to like the basketball games, which they
went to different games, right, like they had different teams
that they were connected to, like they're they're connected to
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different the different baseball because it's like kind of the
same thing.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
For baseball as well.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You just have two of everything, you know, Like the Giants,
we we seemed to gravitate and this is just my interpretation.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
We seemed to go to.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Nets games, you know, because they were the New Jersey
Nets back then. They weren't the Brooklyn Nets. They were
the New Jersey Nets, and it seemed like the Jets
would generally go to the next games.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I don't know why that is, but that's just seemed
like what it was. Maybe maybe because we lived closer
to to where the New Jersey Nets played, but that
was that was kind of what we did in terms
of hockey. It's just it's like, you know, the Rangers
is the Rangers. I guess that that was a deal.
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But you had the New Jersey Devils, you know what
I mean. Like it's like it's weird because you have
you have basically the Giants are to me, they were
up is in Jersey, Jersey and New York, whereas the
Jets they represent like you know Long you know, Long
Island like different. It's like a different it's a different
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part of New York that the Jets represent. Like I
don't know where the the like the where the border
is of of where it is in New York and
how it extends out. But for one one reason or another,
and it's probably because of the championship, teams of when
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Lawrence Taylor and all of Phil Silms and Hostetler and
Banks and you know, Harry Carson and all those guys
when they were playing. It's probably from that era of
time that the Giants kind of just took control and
manhandled the you know, the market.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think like the separation between Jets fans and Giants fans.
And I was just researching this a little bit. Is
super Bowl wins in the last like fifty years, Like
I think that's a difference, you know, like the Giants.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
But that doesn't But that doesn't mean because it's I mean,
I guess.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
There's more recent. They're more recent.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Uh you know with Eli Manning and all of them
that I should have had Super Bowl rings, you know,
I should have had those two super Bowl rings. God dang,
but I missed it. Like I said, my cup of
coffee didn't even run cold. But I just think there's
a if I'm if I'm being honest, I think there's
just like a like a kind of like an arrogance
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of the Giants. Are the Giants as as compared to
like the Jets. Are the Jets Like it's it's like
they're better, you know, and and and so they have
They're fighting a lot. And the point I'm getting at
by by painting that picture is the New York Jets
are always fighting being like relevant, Like the Jets want
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to be relevant. They had a nice period of time
with Curtis Martin and with Krebec and you know those guys,
the Mo Collins, the you know, the Marvin Jones, the
era of time with the Jets. You know the time
with with Rex Ryan and it was ground and Pound.
They they've had some really really fine moments where they've
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knocked at the door of relevance, but they really have
yet to go through the door and reside in in relevance.
And I think that these guys are feeling that pressure.
They're feeling what it feels like to know that you
have the ability and the opportunity to be relevant within
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the market that you're in and as a team, and
they feel like they probably feel like at an early
stage in the in the in the season, they're losing
that they're losing it. It's it's you know, the hope
of it might be waning right now.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You'd have to assume like one of the things, and
so Rogers off the criticism of you know, and I
don't know if it was criticism as much as it
was just advice.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Hey, we got to stick together.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Can't criticize, you know, criticize each other rather and you know,
just make sure that we're the same p Yeah, and
he's one hundred percent right, Robert solid that he's right.
There was also players on the Jets who were asked
about it yesterday and they said, yeah, he's right, Like
we do have to stick together. And so the leadership
aspect that you pointed to, he's already embraced that, and
they've embrace braced him. But the problem is, like they
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can say all this all they want, and then the
reality just kicks in. All we're going to get ripped
in half this Sunday night against the Chiefs, like that's
going to happen, Like they're going to lose it home
to the Kansas City Chiefs. And then after that you're
going to Denver, which everybody thought was going to be
the Nathaniel Hackett revenge game. I don't know about that,
and it's not like Denver looks good. But I don't
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know what the point total on that game is going
to be. But it probably should be somewhere in the
teams as far as the entire game goes. And then
you're getting Philly and then you're at your bye week
and then you see the Giants. So there's a real
chance this could be a one in five football team
meeting the Giants, the team that you just laid out
basically big brothers them in town and in the marketplace.
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Like all of this, you know, Aaron Rodgers' right stuff
is correct, and they can say all the nice things
they want, but the reality just kicks in and it
becomes the reality yet again for a second straight season.
They just don't have anything on offense. It threatens anybody,
and that's an issue.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
You know what's crazy. They don't have a weapon at
quarterback that threatens down with the other you know, weapons
that they have, they have the potential the makings of
a running game.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Dude, there's weapons there. There's weapons there.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
There are weapons.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's the one that's lacking at the quarterbacks position. But
you know, if you think about it, Aaron Rodgers is
speaking from the safety and the confines of having his
reputation and it not being tarnished because he got injured
for plays in Yeah, like they're like nobody in New
(28:05):
York is going to sit there and be like, I
shut up your bust for us, dad, this, that and
the other. It's just like you got injured, like so
I don't really know what you are to us.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
So he's like in a unique.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Position where he doesn't talk or speak with the frustration
or with you know, the tainted type of feelings from
being in New York media after having played a bad game,
you had a losing season.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
He doesn't have to deal with that.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
He hasn't been infected. That's correct, that's correct. That's correct.
So it's it's you got to give them a little bit.
You got to give the Jets players that have gone
through a season and have gone through the disappointment and
the scrutiny of how they're talked about. You got to
give them a little bit of grace too, because that's
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it's hard.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
It's hard to hear people that you know. It's one
thing when you hear.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
The outside world talk crazy about you, but when your
own media beat beat writers, and when you're you're feeling
the pressure and hearing you know what, what your fan
base may be thinking or feeling and they've wrote you
off like they've been written off. Who you tell me
who has not written off the New York Jets there,
(29:23):
I tell you you're probably.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Maybe fireman ed, you know, maybe he said, but.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
You know he had retired from saying jets for a
while because he was so frustrated. So that they all
can get it, you know what I mean, Like they
all catch the where you know, we're losers type of vibe.
And I think that that's hard, especially for a young group.
An older group, they probably can kind of whether the
storm a little bit better. And you do have some
(29:49):
leaders on that team or some older guys on that team,
they need to step up to the plate. What Aaron
Rodgers said, it's true, but Aaron Rodgers is not around
them to the capacity that he would be as a
player active player. So the active veterans in that locker
room have to do their job in terms of how
they influence the younger guys. You know, when emotions are
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running high, they have to be able to help them
to understand how, you know, the proper approach is in
terms of them turning this around.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
They have a defense.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Their defense has not looked great at times, but they
do still have a defense that that injury took place
on the offense side of the ball. Last I checked,
you have to score to be able to win a game.
So the defense needs to step up what they're doing.
This running team, this running attack, they need to the
running game needs to establish and step up and take
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the pressure off of the quarterback's arm.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
If they if.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They rally together and do what they're supposed to do,
then to me, you have a chance for a decent season.
If they don't, they'll continue to fall apart and implode.
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Speaker 8 (33:06):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
In casey missed it. If you wanted more Taylor Swift,
you got it because thank you, guys, and Casey missed it.
If you wanted more Taylor Swift, you got it because
Sunday night football between the Chiefs and Jets. It's already
been confirmed that Taylor is going to attend to see
(33:33):
her guy, Travis Kelcey play for the Kansas City chief.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
She's got one other guest confirmed.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, This is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
By the way, she's.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Got one so many decent song and it's like I
think it's is it called trouble?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
She's got a million.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Stop your hating on her to.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
This song is a good one. Sing this song stinks.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Come on, man, you gotta shake it off. Play has
gone a hey.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Hey football, play play plan. Don't get it? You know?
You know what? I you know what. I have a.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Conspiracy theory of my own. All right, I have a
conspiracy theory of my own. Can we get the conspiracy
music up?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Here's my.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I got something, all right, because I I remember, I
remember seeing this, and I wonder if part of this
is your plans?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Oh oh sound.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So I remember hearing that Taylor Swift had turned down
the super Bowl halftime show, that she didn't want to
partake in the super Bowl halftime show. I remember hearing
that story. And so now Usher is doing the super
Bowl halftime show for anybody that's interested. But I wonder
if the NFL is trying to kiss her ass to
(34:59):
a point to where they're showing her yeah, and they're
showing her like, hey, welcome to our world. You could
be a part of this even further on the biggest
stage of them all. You could be super Bowl halftime performer, etcetera, etcetera. No,
it's not happening this year, but they're telling her moving forward,
this is a world you want to be a part of.
(35:19):
Tell you and the Swifties or the Swifters or the
swift Oh's, whatever they're calling them to get their asses
in check, get over to our super Bowl halftime show,
and you could be a part of this world even further.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
If you think this is don't you.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I just I think I think I think that
might be the plan here, That might be the ploy.
What do you think of that conspiracy theory?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Bar I'm not buying it, but come on, there's parts
of what you're saying that could have some some validity
or some relevance to it, is what I'll say.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I heard another conspiracy theory that of course it's uh,
it's out there that Taylor is a Eagles fan, that
she's really doing this to kind of play with Travis's head. Jesus,
she's gonna be on Ara's tour some February.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
She doesn't know the difference between DeVonta Smith and Vaisaka Emma.
What does she know about the Eagles. Get out of
here with that. She didn't know anything about the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
She's really putting traps.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, she's doing what else you.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Got, guys, like the next level Matt.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Guys. In casey bissit.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
A Philly fan was stopped at the gates trying to
sneak in a large alligator to.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
The ball as an emotional support animal.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
This this alligator being Wally, a very famous alligator apparently
in the.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
As my hand, Oh my god, you're an idiot, sam.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Well.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Anyway, support alligator, Yeah, emotional support alligator stopped at the gate.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know what, I don't understand his.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Mouth was his mouth taped up or was he was
he like had to have been gatered up.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I don't know if it's had to have been okay,
like here hope. So here's like my issue with this
whole thing. It's like, if you're gonna like say that
this is an emotional support animal, at least make it
somewhat of a believable lie.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Everybody knows, like if you.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Need emotional support, sometimes maybe you need like somebody just
patch you on the back or kind of you know,
rub your shoulders and say Hey, everything's gonna be okay.
And alligator's arms aren't long enough like their dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So well, some people use snakes and they don't have
any arms or legs.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, I feel like a snake.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I had to debunk your r ard.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Well, right, but but a snake can kind of you know,
you know, like work around the neck and kind of
it's almost like one of those airplane.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Pillows hug, like a permanent hug.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, it's like one of those airplane pillows. Like an alligator.
It's like, what's an alligator gonna do? It's it's arms
are coming out of its armpits, like its hands are
sticking out of its armpits. It doesn't even make sense.
So that's that's the flaw in this whole.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And how does an alligator show love anyway? They don't
show facial expressions or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Like, by the way, by the way, what the whole alligator?
What's more dangerous an alligator or crocodile?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Crocodile, that's what's more dangerous.
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coming up on this Thursday edition. It is a big,
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kicking off later on tonight. You got the Lions at
the Packers, maybe Green Bay looking for a little bit
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We will get into that, well, at least kind of. Plus,
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the hell is happening with the New York Jets. Aaron
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Then we do start because it is a big, big
morning and a big day of celebration and anticipation for
a certain part of the country. And that part of
the country would be the state of Wisconsin. Because our
fine affiliate on the game ten seventy in Madison, they
are listening to this and they're feeling pretty good about things.
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First and foremost, we've got Week four, the NFL kick
it off later on tonight, You've got the Lions, and
you've got the Packers. Now, Detroit is favored, they're a
one and a half point favorite going into this game,
but probably a little bit of revenge on the mind
of the Packers considering the last time these two teams
played at lambeau Field. It was Aaron Rodgers' final game.
Because Detroit as an underdog winning on the final week
(02:50):
of the season, green Bay with an opportunity to clinch
a playoff spot, and the Lions put it on them
and got it done. Thus the momentum for the fighting
Dan Campbell's and the Detroit Lions as they had into
this season.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The fighting Dan Campbell's that's right.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Well, I'll say this, both teams, both teams are two
on one. Green Bay had a tremendous comeback in this
last game that they played in to be able to win. Uh,
it looks as though they're they're getting healthy. I'm not
certain is is Christian Watson up this game? I think
(03:28):
Christian Watson and Aaron Jones, I believe. I think. I'm
sitting here trying to check. But I do think that
they're playing.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's still up in there.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
It's questionable, questionable. Yeah, if if they have, if they
have Aaron Jones and Christian Watson and Jay R.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Alexander, if if they are playing, and they're if they're
playing at you know, at the level they're supposed to
be playing at, jonas this, I think this is going.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
To be a good game.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
If they're not playing, especially Aaron Jones out of the
out of the three I just named, I think that's
going to be a I think that'll be a tough
game for Green Bay to be.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Able to win. I think they got well.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Well, now, I'll just say I'll be honest with you.
I actually hope the game is awful. I hope the
game is terrible. I hope the game sucks. I hope
people have complaints, because the worse the game is, the better.
Al Michaels gets That's what I'm looking for. I want
al Michaels tearing down lambeau Field. I want him criticizing
(04:40):
what there is to do in the in the state
of Wisconsin and entered around Green Bay. I want I
want him ripping cheese Kurds. I want him ripping the
color scheme of the Packers. I want al Michaels, the
red ass, the curmudgeon who's just letting it fly in
probably the final stages of his broadcasting career, to just
have something to work with. And the worse the football
(05:01):
game is, the better for al Michaels and all of
us watching.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
That's what I want, man. But why you want? Damn?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
It's funny, damn, But I mean, what does that have
to really do with the game?
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Though?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I love that that's your your expectation or your hope
for what takes place, But.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
You know, this is a divisional a divisional game.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
The North is an interesting, an interesting topic of conversation
if you are a football fan. I would have to
I would have to say that it's one of the
more intriguing storylines that will develop this year, this season
because we really don't know what the NFC North is.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Outside of well, we do.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Know what the NFC North is in terms of what
the Chicago Bears represent to the NFC North, But well, yeah,
I mean it just is what it is with that, right,
But but I think otherwise, I think we're trying to
figure out who Jordan Love is and what this post
post Aaron Rodgers, Uh, you know, tenure or or era,
(06:13):
and you know what, what is it?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
I think so far, I think people.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Are excited about, you know, Jordan Love and what he
brings to the to the table. But then now you're wondering, Okay,
is it is it really Detroit? Is it really the
Detroit Lines? Time to be a a team that dominates
the NFC North over what Green Bay has been to
(06:41):
the North so far for for the amount of time
that they've been so and then you know, obviously the Vikings,
they they seem to be kind of a I don't
know what you say, mid level team right now, a
mid team where so do we want to say there
they're a poor team, a subpar team because they haven't won,
(07:02):
or do we say they're a mid team that's off
to a slow start. I just don't know what we
have in the NFC North. But if I do know
something kind of definitively, I think whatever the NFC North is,
it has a ton of defining in tonight's game, you
know so, And I'm sure that's what both coaches are saying.
(07:25):
I'm sure Laflora is telling his guys that, you know,
Detroit thinks that they're the big bad wolf on the block,
they're the bully on the block, and we got to
show them that we're still Green Bay. Let's go out
there and punch them in the mouth. While I think
Dan Campbell is saying, you know, let's beat a big
bad wolf, Let's beat a big bad bully on the block,
(07:46):
and let's make this a reality the Green Bay in
front of the entire country on a primetime game tonight.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
So there's a lot of motivation that is.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Connected to this game, Jonas, and I think that that's
what's going to make it a little bit more entertaining
for everybody watching, including out Michaels.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, the betting odds would say this as it pertains
to this game and this division, the NFC North, which
features the Detroit Lions, the Green Bay Packers, a bad
Vikings team, and the Chicago Bears that are the diaper
fire of sports right now, both these teams are sitting
at two to one. They're both atought the division, but
it is the Lions at a minus one to h
(08:24):
five on DraftKings, it is the favorite to win the division.
Now Green Bay's not far behind. They're sitting at plus
one thirty five. I think the reviews on Jordan Love
have been more positive than maybe some people expected. But
Detroit is still expected, at least as of right now
before this game tonight, to win that division based on
the betting odds. Now, if you're a Packers fan and
(08:45):
you're somebody in Wisconsin, you're probably looking at that going okay, well,
that doesn't seem like good news. But step right up,
National Basketball Association, because how about Damian Lillard and our
friends listening on the game in Wisconsin and on ten
seventy in Madison. You've got a brand new partner in
crime in Milwaukee with Giannis and Tetakoumpo. Damian Lillard is
(09:10):
now Milwaukee Buck is part of a three three team
deal that went down yesterday. So all that conversation about
the Miami Heat and I'm not going anywhere but the
Miami Heat and the Milwaukee Bucks swipe in and steal
him and get him to Milwaukee. And now Dame Loward
is in Milwaukee's a Buck? How about that?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Okay, So so now crow barring Dame Lillard going into
the cheese Kurds territory. Yeah, what what did the what
did the Bucks have to give up?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
A lot?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Did they have to give up any players?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Drew Holliday was one of them they gave up. Yeah,
so there was a lot and obviously you know Portland's involved.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Was that the only was that the only big name
from from the Bucks, like they didn't have to give
up Like, uh, who am I thinking of as a
Singleton Middleton?
Speaker 5 (10:00):
No, Middleton Middleton.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, Middleton was not part of the deal.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
But so then they have they have a big three.
Then they still have a big three.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, so they're they're they're pretty loaded the Milwaukee Bucks are.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I mean, that's not pretty loaded. That's that's that's loaded.
That is loaded. And and Dan Lillard is one of
those guys You're going to get what what you paid for,
Like he's he's going to be what what's advertised when
he gets there. So that should be interesting to see
how that plays out. And that is a win on
game day for for Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
But uh, I.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Still think it comes down to how does how does
Green Bay's defense hold up against that physical offensive front
of the Detroit line, and how will that how will
that play out? Because you know, this is like I mean,
I guess you could say there could be picking rolls
and rolling to to the uh to the paint on
(10:58):
in in football term, and but this definitely is going
to be a game where you see finesse versus versus
brute strength, and that brute strength is the running game
and the offensive front of the Detroit Lions. That's that's
(11:18):
you know they play, That's what they're bringing to the table.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
They play physical Detroit outdoors. It's not quite cold yet,
but outdoors. You know, maybe Dame will be in attendance
to watch the Packers as underdogs take on the Lions.
Like this is a big night, man, big night Lee
de lapse of Packers fan. You know he's gonna get
mangled later on at a sports bar watching that game.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
That's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
This game.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
That's a that's a big ass win if they can
win this game. Yeah, so that's gonna be a big if,
though especially if they don't have Aaron Jones and if
they have Christian Watson. I think they are definitely and
proud position to be able to do what it is
that you know, they could possibly do an upset victory,
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but that's going to be a tall task.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, it's going to be a fun day of events,
a big celebration day potentially for the entire state of Wisconsin.
They get a superstar with Giannis, They've got a football
game coming up with the Green Bay Packers and the
Detroit Lions, and we have got a three hour extravagance
ourselves here on Fox Sports Radio. He's LeVar Arrington. I'm
Jonas Knox with you here. You can listen to us
(12:30):
as always on the iHeartRadio app. So we're going to
have in case you missed it. We've also got another
edition of Over Unders, and we've got you into you
out as we get your set for Thursday night football
and the kickoff of Believe It or Not, Week four
of the NFL season. So all of that is yours
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coach is apparently okay sharing duties with one of the
star players of the NFL, and we'll tell you who
that it is.
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Next.
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I don't know if you know this or not, but
the start to the New York Jets season has not
gone the way a lot of people thought it would. No, Yeah,
(13:56):
it's been a little bit disappointing. Aaron Rodgers injury, all
that fun stuff to go along with it. We've obviously
chronicled and covered the entire saga of Rogers to the
Jets all the way in the offseason, the hard knocks,
everything that went along with it. Well, the latest sort
of I guess twist, as we discussed yesterday, was that
(14:17):
there was a report from Rich Semini of ESPN that
you know, Robert Salaz in danger of potentially losing the
locker room because you know, his loyalty to Zach Wilson
and maybe players especially on defense, or just fed up
with it because they're not getting quality quarterback play and
this is.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Multiple years in a row. But the defense is very good,
and so you.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Know, we discussed all all of that yesterday and the
Trevor Simeon signing and all of that. Well, Aaron Rodgers
was on the Pat McAfee show starring AJ Hawk, and
he had some criticism for just sort of the sideline meltdowns.
You had Michael Carter, I believe, who was yelling at
his running backs coach. Looked like they had to be separated.
You had Garrett Wilson and Zach Wilson going at it
(14:59):
at times, and so Robert Solo was asked about the
criticism from Roger saying, we need to grow up a
little bit on offense. We can't keep fighting with each other.
And here was the Jets head coach response.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
You know, I've said it with with Aaron. He's he's
as much of a coach as he is a player,
and he's been around youth, and he's been around adversity,
and he's he's seen it all. And uh, you know,
for him to recognize that and talk through it, I
think he's he's not wrong and that we've when you
have frustration, it's easy to to kind of look for
(15:32):
answers when sometimes the most important answer is inward and
that's h and that's the only way you can defeat
adversity is to look inward and find find ways to
be be your personal best. So as it pertains to
what he said, you know, it's he's not wrong. But
at the same time, it's a bunch of young guys
showing a little bit of frustration, so they'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, so they're going to be all right.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Okay, So Aaron Rodgers went on Pat McAfee's show and said,
what let's keep let's I want to make sure that
to our listeners that it's in context.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
So he talked about the issues on the sideline, and
he talked about all of the stuff that happened Garrett Wilson,
Zach Wilson, Michael Carter yelling at his running back coach,
and Aaron Rodgers said, you know, we need to grow
up a little bit on offense. We can't, we can't
let that stuff happen, so on and so forth, offered
some criticism for the behavior and things like that.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, you know, I think Aaron Rodgers is probably I'm
assuming Aaron Rodgers is very well respected in that locker room.
So I don't think he would have made that type
of comment on on his his his weekly hit with
with Pat if he didn't feel confident in his standing
(16:51):
with the team. I wonder how the team will react.
Is that something that you brush off? Is it something
that you and eternalize and you say, we need to
be better at what it is that you know, how
we're handling our business and you know, stay stay as
a united front. I think that the amount of drama
(17:14):
that is playing out and it's playing out in the media.
Everything is being kind of you know, I don't want
to say nitpicked, but it's going to get covered because
of the market that the Jets are in. They're a
relevant team, although it's not relevant from winning. It's just
it's a relevant team because of the market. Again once
(17:36):
that once again what they're in and and so to me,
I wonder how the players received hearing those criticisms from
a player that is one of the greats to ever
do it, but still has yet to have done that
with the team he's with for one for two. This
(17:56):
is a team that is, as Robert Salah mentioned, it
is a young team, and you are going to see
moments of frustration because I think they too, just like
everyone else onlooking felt as though this was probably going
to be a really, really good year for them and
they're not having that success. So I just think that
(18:18):
there's a lot of frustration and there's going to be
a lot of coverage. You're going to look at what
Robert Salah looks like. Robert sala is on the sideline
and he's standing there with with that kind of like
a stoic, you know, face. He's maintaining right, like he's
kind of maintaining guys, but it's still it's almost like
(18:43):
a military look. You know, it's like you you know
how bad it is. But he doesn't want anybody onlooking,
and he knows the cameras on him, so he doesn't
want anybody to see him making facial expressions or you know,
flailing his arms or you know. He's not showing any
type of outward frustration. He looks composed and poised as
(19:07):
the head coach, and I give him a lot of
credit for that, because I'm sure it's got to be
a lot of pressure on him being in the position
that he's in right now. But again, as a team,
I'm sure there's a lot of pressure on this team
to have a good year, to perform. I think that
they had a lot of cachet coming into the season.
And I think one thing you got to keep in
(19:28):
mind as well, is there is there is the idea
that the Jets are the second team in New York,
and this would be a great opportunity for the Jets
to you know, gain some some maybe you call maybe
market share, or gain some you know, some ground in
(19:49):
terms of how they're viewed in the New York Market.
You know, these guys go out. When I went to
the New York Giants, first thing I realized I was
going out, you know, we were going to the same place.
This is the Jets, and so you're seeing you're seeing
New York Jets in the same you know, places that
that New York Giants are going, and I immediately felt like,
(20:12):
you know, we were better than them. N you know, yeah,
I mean, I just is what it is. That was
just kind of like the kind of like the feeling like,
all right, it's like the Jets over there. You know,
they're driving a you know, I don't know, a nice
you know, a nice Mustang, you know what I mean,
(20:33):
it's a real nice Mustang. But we're coming in and
we're driving you know Bentley. You know where the Bentley.
They're the they're the Mustang.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So let me ask you this because I don't mean
to interrupt, but let me ask you this. So you're
in Manhattan. You walk up to Marquee in Manhattan, which
I've actually been to. I don't even know if it's
still open, but I just remember somebody waking me up,
like one of the bus boys because I had passed
out because I was annihilated sitting downstairs.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So I mean just out cold. But and I just
remember saying, sir, you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
And I just stumbled into like some some euro card,
some street street food card that was selling euros outside.
But you walk, you walk into Marquee, which players from
the Jets, do you recall getting table service before? Just
because you were a giant, like who on the Jets
was like second fiddle to you as you walked into
(21:26):
some of these clubs in Manhattan.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
I don't remember names, Come on, I don't. I really
don't remember. I mean, you gotta keep in mind, I
was only there for a cup of coffee.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Literally, I was only there long enough to get a
couple and the coffee was still hot before I even
you know, before I was done playing there. But I
do recall going to like the basketball games, which they
went to different games, right, like they had different teams
that they were connected to, like they're they're connected to
(21:58):
different the different baseball because it's like kind of the
same thing.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
For baseball as well.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
You just have two of everything, you know, Like the Giants,
we we seemed to gravitate and this is just my interpretation.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
We seemed to go to.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Nets games, you know, because they were the New Jersey
Nets back then. They weren't the Brooklyn Nets. They were
the New Jersey Nets, and it seemed like the Jets
would generally go to the next games.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
I don't know why that is, but that's just seemed
like what it was. Maybe maybe because we lived closer
to to where the New Jersey Nets played, but that
was that was kind of what we did in terms
of hockey. It's just it's like, you know, the Rangers
is the Rangers. I guess that that was a deal.
(22:49):
But you had the New Jersey Devils, you know what
I mean. Like it's like it's weird because you have
you have basically the Giants are to me, they were
up is in Jersey, Jersey and New York, whereas the
Jets they represent like you know Long you know, Long
Island like different. It's like a different it's a different
(23:12):
part of New York that the Jets represent. Like I
don't know where the the like the where the border
is of of where it is in New York and
how it extends out. But for one one reason or another,
and it's probably because of the championship, teams of when
(23:33):
Lawrence Taylor and all of Phil Silms and Hostetler and
Banks and you know, Harry Carson and all those guys
when they were playing. It's probably from that era of
time that the Giants kind of just took control and
manhandled the you know, the market.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I think like the separation between Jets fans and Giants fans.
And I was just researching this a little bit. Is
super Bowl wins in the last like fifty years, Like
I think that's a difference, you know, like the Giants.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
But that doesn't But that doesn't mean because it's I mean,
I guess.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
There's more recent. They're more recent.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Uh you know with Eli Manning and all of them
that I should have had Super Bowl rings, you know,
I should have had those two super Bowl rings. God dang,
but I missed it. Like I said, my cup of
coffee didn't even run cold. But I just think there's
a if I'm if I'm being honest, I think there's
just like a like a kind of like an arrogance
(24:33):
of the Giants. Are the Giants as as compared to
like the Jets. Are the Jets Like it's it's like
they're better, you know, and and and so they have
They're fighting a lot. And the point I'm getting at
by by painting that picture is the New York Jets
are always fighting being like relevant, Like the Jets want
(24:58):
to be relevant. They had a nice period of time
with Curtis Martin and with Krebec and you know those guys,
the Mo Collins, the you know, the Marvin Jones, the
era of time with the Jets. You know the time
with with Rex Ryan and it was ground and Pound.
They they've had some really really fine moments where they've
(25:19):
knocked at the door of relevance, but they really have
yet to go through the door and reside in in relevance.
And I think that these guys are feeling that pressure.
They're feeling what it feels like to know that you
have the ability and the opportunity to be relevant within
(25:41):
the market that you're in and as a team, and
they feel like they probably feel like at an early
stage in the in the in the season, they're losing
that they're losing it. It's it's you know, the hope
of it might be waning right now.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You'd have to assume like one of the things, and
so Rogers off the criticism of you know, and I
don't know if it was criticism as much as it
was just advice.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Hey, we got to stick together.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Can't criticize, you know, criticize each other rather and you know,
just make sure that we're the same p Yeah, and
he's one hundred percent right, Robert solid that he's right.
There was also players on the Jets who were asked
about it yesterday and they said, yeah, he's right, Like
we do have to stick together. And so the leadership
aspect that you pointed to, he's already embraced that, and
they've embrace braced him. But the problem is, like they
(26:27):
can say all this all they want, and then the
reality just kicks in. All we're going to get ripped
in half this Sunday night against the Chiefs, like that's
going to happen, Like they're going to lose it home
to the Kansas City Chiefs. And then after that you're
going to Denver, which everybody thought was going to be
the Nathaniel Hackett revenge game. I don't know about that,
and it's not like Denver looks good. But I don't
(26:48):
know what the point total on that game is going
to be. But it probably should be somewhere in the
teams as far as the entire game goes. And then
you're getting Philly and then you're at your bye week
and then you see the Giants. So there's a real
chance this could be a one in five football team
meeting the Giants, the team that you just laid out
basically big brothers them in town and in the marketplace.
(27:11):
Like all of this, you know, Aaron Rodgers' right stuff
is correct, and they can say all the nice things
they want, but the reality just kicks in and it
becomes the reality yet again for a second straight season.
They just don't have anything on offense. It threatens anybody,
and that's an issue.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
You know what's crazy. They don't have a weapon at
quarterback that threatens down with the other you know, weapons
that they have, they have the potential the makings of
a running game.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Dude, there's weapons there. There's weapons there.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
There are weapons.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's the one that's lacking at the quarterbacks position. But
you know, if you think about it, Aaron Rodgers is
speaking from the safety and the confines of having his
reputation and it not being tarnished because he got injured
for plays in Yeah, like they're like nobody in New
(28:05):
York is going to sit there and be like, I
shut up your bust for us, dad, this, that and
the other. It's just like you got injured, like so
I don't really know what you are to us.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
So he's like in a unique.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Position where he doesn't talk or speak with the frustration
or with you know, the tainted type of feelings from
being in New York media after having played a bad game,
you had a losing season.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
He doesn't have to deal with that.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
He hasn't been infected. That's correct, that's correct. That's correct.
So it's it's you got to give them a little bit.
You got to give the Jets players that have gone
through a season and have gone through the disappointment and
the scrutiny of how they're talked about. You got to
give them a little bit of grace too, because that's
(28:57):
it's hard.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
It's hard to hear people that you know. It's one
thing when you hear.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
The outside world talk crazy about you, but when your
own media beat beat writers, and when you're you're feeling
the pressure and hearing you know what, what your fan
base may be thinking or feeling and they've wrote you
off like they've been written off. Who you tell me
who has not written off the New York Jets there,
(29:23):
I tell you you're probably.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Maybe fireman ed, you know, maybe he said, but.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
You know he had retired from saying jets for a
while because he was so frustrated. So that they all
can get it, you know what I mean, Like they
all catch the where you know, we're losers type of vibe.
And I think that that's hard, especially for a young group.
An older group, they probably can kind of whether the
storm a little bit better. And you do have some
(29:49):
leaders on that team or some older guys on that team,
they need to step up to the plate. What Aaron
Rodgers said, it's true, but Aaron Rodgers is not around
them to the capacity that he would be as a
player active player. So the active veterans in that locker
room have to do their job in terms of how
they influence the younger guys. You know, when emotions are
(30:12):
running high, they have to be able to help them
to understand how, you know, the proper approach is in
terms of them turning this around.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
They have a defense.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Their defense has not looked great at times, but they
do still have a defense that that injury took place
on the offense side of the ball. Last I checked,
you have to score to be able to win a game.
So the defense needs to step up what they're doing.
This running team, this running attack, they need to the
running game needs to establish and step up and take
(30:47):
the pressure off of the quarterback's arm.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
If they if.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
They rally together and do what they're supposed to do,
then to me, you have a chance for a decent season.
If they don't, they'll continue to fall apart and implode.
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Speaker 8 (33:06):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
In casey missed it. If you wanted more Taylor Swift,
you got it because thank you, guys, and Casey missed it.
If you wanted more Taylor Swift, you got it because
Sunday night football between the Chiefs and Jets. It's already
been confirmed that Taylor is going to attend to see
(33:33):
her guy, Travis Kelcey play for the Kansas City chief.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
She's got one other guest confirmed.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, no kidding, no kidding, This is ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Man.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
By the way, she's.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Got one so many decent song and it's like I
think it's is it called trouble?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
She's got a million.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Stop your hating on her to.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
This song is a good one. Sing this song stinks.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Come on, man, you gotta shake it off. Play has
gone a hey.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Hey football, play play plan. Don't get it? You know?
You know what? I you know what. I have a.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Conspiracy theory of my own. All right, I have a
conspiracy theory of my own. Can we get the conspiracy
music up?
Speaker 5 (34:25):
All right?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Here's my.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
I got something, all right, because I I remember, I
remember seeing this, and I wonder if part of this
is your plans?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Oh oh sound.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
So I remember hearing that Taylor Swift had turned down
the super Bowl halftime show, that she didn't want to
partake in the super Bowl halftime show. I remember hearing
that story. And so now Usher is doing the super
Bowl halftime show for anybody that's interested. But I wonder
if the NFL is trying to kiss her ass to
(34:59):
a point to where they're showing her yeah, and they're
showing her like, hey, welcome to our world. You could
be a part of this even further on the biggest
stage of them all. You could be super Bowl halftime performer, etcetera, etcetera. No,
it's not happening this year, but they're telling her moving forward,
this is a world you want to be a part of.
(35:19):
Tell you and the Swifties or the Swifters or the
swift Oh's, whatever they're calling them to get their asses
in check, get over to our super Bowl halftime show,
and you could be a part of this world even further.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
If you think this is don't you.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I just I think I think I think that
might be the plan here, That might be the ploy.
What do you think of that conspiracy theory?
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Bar I'm not buying it, but come on, there's parts
of what you're saying that could have some some validity
or some relevance to it, is what I'll say.
Speaker 8 (35:57):
I heard another conspiracy theory that of course it's uh,
it's out there that Taylor is a Eagles fan, that
she's really doing this to kind of play with Travis's head. Jesus,
she's gonna be on Ara's tour some February.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I mean, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
She doesn't know the difference between DeVonta Smith and Vaisaka Emma.
What does she know about the Eagles. Get out of
here with that. She didn't know anything about the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
She's really putting traps.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yeah, she's doing what else you.
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Got, guys, like the next level Matt.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Guys. In casey bissit.
Speaker 8 (36:35):
A Philly fan was stopped at the gates trying to
sneak in a large alligator to.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
The ball as an emotional support animal.
Speaker 8 (36:43):
This this alligator being Wally, a very famous alligator apparently
in the.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
As my hand, Oh my god, you're an idiot, sam.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Well.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Anyway, support alligator, Yeah, emotional support alligator stopped at the gate.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know what, I don't understand his.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Mouth was his mouth taped up or was he was
he like had to have been gatered up.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
I don't know if it's had to have been okay,
like here hope. So here's like my issue with this
whole thing. It's like, if you're gonna like say that
this is an emotional support animal, at least make it
somewhat of a believable lie.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Everybody knows, like if you.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Need emotional support, sometimes maybe you need like somebody just
patch you on the back or kind of you know,
rub your shoulders and say Hey, everything's gonna be okay.
And alligator's arms aren't long enough like their dinosaurs.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
So well, some people use snakes and they don't have
any arms or legs.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, I mean, but you know, I feel like a snake.
Speaker 5 (37:48):
I had to debunk your r ard.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Well, right, but but a snake can kind of you know,
you know, like work around the neck and kind of
it's almost like one of those airplane.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Pillows hug, like a permanent hug.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, it's like one of those airplane pillows. Like an alligator.
It's like, what's an alligator gonna do? It's it's arms
are coming out of its armpits, like its hands are
sticking out of its armpits. It doesn't even make sense.
So that's that's the flaw in this whole.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
And how does an alligator show love anyway? They don't
show facial expressions or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Like, by the way, by the way, what the whole alligator?
What's more dangerous an alligator or crocodile?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Crocodile, that's what's more dangerous.
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