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Speaker 2 (01:19):
We need here in this Why is that?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Because every Sam, Sam going back over all this to
make sure that I was offense is clicking, like you know,
he's hoping it will be.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
We had Big ten Network on and it just came
on at this hour. I didn't put it on intentionally.
I've had Big Network gone for hours.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Hey.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
By the way, with the come on with the McNamara injury,
is that going to be taken into account when Brian
Farrens is looking for a paycheck at the end of
the year.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I mean, does you have be some fine print there?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Who cares? What's your problem?
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Sam? What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
He's he's he's the offense scored nineteen.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Okay, you take out you take out the amazing Cooper
Dejene punt return for a touchdown and you put up nineteen.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
You don't points you don't feel bad for Cade McNamara
like he thought dude was like a like a fresh start. Yeah,
and he's just been banged up. The entire time.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
It's proof that he did invite you, though, to talk
trash about the offense.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
Listen, you could put you could put Jalen Hurts in
Iowa's offense and they still put up nineteen points a game.
Oh you so you're you're over Brian Farrence.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Oh yeah. Even the new deep fake that was out
because you guys, you see that they sent a new
deep face and new tweeted it over to us.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
There.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Oh there's like four of them now now that site
can't stop making them.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
It's so good.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I love that Twitter. But I didn't know is that
that it was a one Twitter page. I'm a big
fan of the guy. He's very talented. Hey you all right,
let's get back to real from stuff here.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Okay, we are. We are over Iowa football for the
year twenty twenty three. Now we move over to a
storyline that was hoping never existed, but apparently here we are,
and even the people involved in the storyline are starting
to uh starting to get a little a little thin
on caring about it themselves. Elves the Taylor Swift crap
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with Travis Kelcey that I feel like we've been at
the forefront of condemning anybody who has been hyping this
stuff up and constantly showcasing it and all the other
things that come along with it. Well, the Kelsey Brothers
Jason Kelcey Travis kelce talked about it on their New
Heights podcast and they kind of feel the same way
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we all do.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Is the NFL overdoing it? What is your honest opinion not?
Speaker 8 (03:32):
I think I think everybody was just like overwhelminglings for Taylor.
Speaker 7 (03:37):
What is your honest opinion on how the NFL is
treating celebrities at games.
Speaker 8 (03:44):
I think it's fun when they show who el is
at the game, you know, I think I think it
brings a little bit more to the atmosphere, brings a
little bit more to what you're watching. But at the
same time, I think they're overdoing it. They're overdoing it
a little bit for sure, especially my situation right, I
think they're They're just trying to have fun with it,
and a lot of a lot of the people watching
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go ahead, let's hear it.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
I just think the NFL is not used to celebrities
coming to the games, like basketball has to figure it out.
They're all court side, they're sitting there. They show them
once or twice and then and then but they get
back to the game.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
The NFL is like, look at all these days celebrities
to the game. Keep showing them, show them, show them,
show them.
Speaker 7 (04:22):
Dude, listen, you show them once, let them know there.
Maybe after a touchdown you get a little clip. But
it can't can't be overboard with it. People are there
to watch the game, right, all right.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Good, at least somebody's started to think reasonably about this
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I love Jason Kelcey. He just seems like the coolest dude.
I mean, I just his perspective on most things. I
think he gets it. I think he understood too, like
it had to be acknowledged on their podcast. I do
feel like if you listen to like Travis's responses, like
your feelings aside for Taylor and he kind of like laughs,
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and just the way they're talking about it, it feels
like behind the scenes it's been constructed to be this,
And I think the tough thing for Travis Kelcey to say, like, well,
the NFL is overdoing this, It's like, well, then so
are advertisers that have you on every single commercial during
the break, like during breaks between football you still see
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Travis Kelce, You'll still see Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I mean, you're not the NFL, and the production behind.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
The scenes can change how often they show her in
a game, but they can't change all the commercials that
have been shot that are being run during those games too.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I mean, like this is the bed that I think
the NFL made.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
The NFL tends to whenever they're trying to accomplish something,
which it feels like this is they're trying to bring
in a different demographic to the sport.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
They always overcorrect.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They always just jerk the wheel way too far in
one direction, and they find themselves in a spot where
they and people are like, this is too noticeable. You
could have been subtle about it, but instead you had
to hammer us in the head with Taylor Swift for
like two weeks straight where we just don't get a
break of this, instead of subtly weaving it in throughout
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the course of the season. I mean, we're not even
at the halfway point and these guys have to talk
about it because people.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Are already sick of it. I mean, that doesn't help
grow your audience.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
That's a flash in the pan where you get people
to tune in for one or two games and then
they're back out again.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
That's how it feels.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
At least it could possibly villainize Travis Kelcey as well,
and in a way. And you don't want you don't
want something that is supposed to propel you and be
a positive for you to turn into something that becomes
a hindrance or something that derails your popularity what you
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have going on. I mean, I've seen people come out
and have, you know, interesting things to say about the
you know, him doing the Pfizer commercial, stuff like that,
and what they have said, all those things regardless of
Taylor Swift.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Probably so, but with all of the Taylor Swift coverage.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
One it's like, is this a real relationship, which, in
the end, it's none of our fricking business if it's
real or if it's not. Whatever their their deal is
is their deal. But the minute you make it what
it's been made into, then now it's up for all
kinds of scrutiny, all kinds of people secting.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Right, it's just hard man.
Speaker 4 (07:37):
You know, well, let me ask you this because you
i mean, like, you don't think that once you make
that you know, high profile relationship public. You don't think
that that's then warranted for everyone to discuss and talk about.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yes, it is warranted.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Okay, if if it's covered the way that this has
been covered, if it's out there the way that this
is out there, that one is warranted. You know, people
have dated high profile people for a long time, Like,
that's not anything new.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
So you don't have.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
To be front and center with your relationships or the
people that you're you know, you're still sitting your personal
life eleven huh.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Talk about dating like high profile celebrities come.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
On sometimes that stuff and sometimes the popularity that or
the fame that goes along with it or because this
is one thing that people have to understand. When you
date somebody that's very high profile, it can go one
or two ways, and it's always it's nice. It's it's
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like for moments, it can probably be considered to be nice.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
The perks perks of it all.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But what's a perk of it?
Speaker 6 (08:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
We are living vicariously through you. What's it like to
data celebrity? What are we talking about here?
Speaker 6 (09:01):
I mean that would probably be more c than me,
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
No, see, and as you can see.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
As you can see, G code always is G code
for me, Like I've never I've never publicized anyone I've
ever dated. I've never done that, and I.
Speaker 6 (09:22):
Just always felt by the way.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
You gentlemen, gentleman, that's right, gentlemen, that's definitely gentleman G code.
I would never put who I was dealing with in
my personal life, whether famous, like famous enough to be
paid attention to in the public, and people start scrutinizing
it and all kinds of different things, like it's just
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never been my thing. Skarena isn't the only like, she's
not the most like what might be. I'm just saying,
she's not the only famous person I was friends with
when I played ball. But I protected our relationship and
I never I never made it a public thing. I
never talked about it. We never made it a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Like there was a couple you were friends with Serena, Yeah,
I mean we were friends. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
Friends.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
How many red carpets did you guys happen to be
on at the same time.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
I don't think we ever did a red carpet.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Red carp would be sweet. I've never done a red carpet.
That'd be kind of cool.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's really not.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You know, it's not fun. What about like the sps
that awful award show that This is why?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I know, Like like when Jonas gets that opportunity, it's
just gonna look bad because he wants it too bad.
He doesn't want to admit it, but he wants that.
There's sort of things too bad.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
No, I just it wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I wouldn't mind he does.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
He's like the whole TV thing and everything else.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He's big TV star, him and his golf, his golf
expert Buddy.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Malone.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
But he looks like on that show.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, hell yeah he is. We all are.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So he went from being like social media Instagram famous
and now he's on TV doing stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Come on, you know what was he doing before the
instagram s?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Uh? Not quite sure, you don't have. I haven't gotten
that far in our relationship yet, but you know, I'll
check in and I'll give you some feedback as to
what I find out.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
I sure love the decision making behind production on TV.
It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I mean, listen, I'm just here to do my job.
That's all I do, to show up.
Speaker 6 (11:29):
And Rob Parker does it every week.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yeah, Rob Parker does it. Of course he does.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Come on, what would Rob Parker say show this week?
Speaker 6 (11:36):
For example?
Speaker 9 (11:38):
With the fire, he's the he's the low the luckiest
of all time? Stop it?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Did I give me? Can you give me?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
His input on the the wildcard series?
Speaker 2 (11:51):
None of them reaching a third game?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I mean it's ridiculous.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
I mean, you play all of this regular season, you
get to the play and you know, I mean, if
I was wanting those organizations, all four of those managers
will be fired.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
In my mouth, Yeah, he just want everyone deserves to
get clipped. According to Rob Parker, but again, I don't
know what.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
The unemployment rate this country be, like thirty Rob.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Parker, that that is true. I mean, I'm not quite
sure what that has to do with red carpets. But again,
I just think that walking a red carpet would be
kind of entertaining once maybe twice.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
Now, would you have a suit or a dress on?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
I'm gonna go with suit. Okay, yeah, I already know,
not true. I wore a navy blue this past week.
Oh about that?
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
I am, yeah, I am.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You should to figure out this whole TV thing, huh.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I'm terrible at it. So there's not a lot to
figure out. It just is what it is. I'm a
radio guy through and through sweatpants not slacks. That's why
I operate. But again, some people are different. So there's that.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I'm glad Travis addressed it. Maybe maybe now people might
not think he's been involved with it as much as
it possibly could maybe be discussed or stated. You know,
That's that's what I would say, because it just made
you think. It made me wonder is it all a gimmick?
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Like how gimmick? Gimmicky?
Speaker 6 (13:35):
It feels gimmicky?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Like yeah, it's like fills a lot with Taylor Swifty
with Travis Kelsey.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
You know what I mean? Like what is the whole?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
You know, what's the catch and and the only reason
why I would even think that it is just because
of how it's been coveraged or how it's been covered
excuse me. So, I mean I wouldn't have thought that
to begin with, Like I heard rumors were bubbling up
about you know, them hanging out or whatever, like that's cool.
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Let it be rumors that that you know are out there.
But the minute it became this, then now it's like,
you know, you got the old girlfriend saying, you know,
taking shots at Kelsey and saying he's this and saying
he's that for one reason or another, and you know,
everybody's trying to get there their next few moments of
fame off of this whole thing. Like it just to me,
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I don't know, I didn't like it for Kelsey. So
I'm glad he came out and and said he was
kind of, you know, thought it was too much because
it puts it, it puts it back into a little
bit more perspective, like let that focus go on to
the NFL versus it just being purely solely on you.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Nick Travis say he thought it was too much that
Jason said, yeah, he said.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
He kind of said, yeah, good Gouck Jonas.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, no, they both said it.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
They both said yeah, yeah to be alluded to it.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, a little too much because here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Definitely said it, say say a breakup.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I was getting to this before we got to Jonas
being on the Red carpet, but.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
On TV specifically, challenge.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Imagine if the breakup, like all those swifties that are
buying Kelsey jerseys and this, that and the other, if
if some for some reason they stopped talking. And it's
not like all the way cordial, or maybe it even
is cordial. But they might come for him. The Swifties
might come for him. You might see him start burning jerseys, this,
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that and the other and all the ex girlfriend was right,
like this stuff could go horribly wrong.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
It could backfire horribly bad.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
The Swifties bro.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
Yes, yes, have you ever heard of the Beehive?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
They have canceled people like these, these people that these
these these celebrities that have the type of fan bases
that are Beyonce like, Like, I hope you're understanding the
magnitude of a Taylor Swift like he could they could
ruin his career. That's how like, that's how powerful these
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fan bases are these days, depending on what happens and
how it happens and how they they kind of internalize it.
If they get behind something that is derogatory and bad
because this is what happened, and you don't do that
to Taylor and.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
This and that, it could get bad, like bad bad, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Mean, listen, this could also all be a front, like
maybe she's dating Joe Tuney and Travis Kelsey's just the guy,
you know, taking all the shine. You know, it could
be all like diversionary tactic, just saying there's possibilities here.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
It's got to be careful in them situations. Man, you
don't want to hurt yourself under like you know, it's
like unnecessary, it's an unnecessary risk.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
Well listen, I mean, if you're the Swifties, if you
don't like the way this ends up, then you know,
stay out of our league, all right, go do something else.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think I'm over this conversation.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I am too, Definitely. It is Two Pros and a
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Speaker 3 (17:42):
App, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Here on
Fox Sports Radio, we are going to have a Thursday
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about twenty minutes from now from the tiraq dot com studios.
But right now we turn it over to Albert Breer,
senior NFL reporter at the mmqb at Albert Breer on
Twitter or x or whatever the hell though calling it now. Albert,
what's happening. How's your Thursday?
Speaker 11 (18:04):
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
How you guys doing.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
We're good, trying to trying to figure out what the
hell happened with Deshaun Watson last week that led to
him being a late scratch and Dorian Thompson Robinson getting
the start.
Speaker 11 (18:20):
Well, I mean it was you know, I think you
guys all saw the hit that he took the week
before against Tennessee, and you know, I know, like when
he came out of the when he came out in
practice on Friday, he could barely lift his arm up
over his shoulder, and then it got better. And I
don't know, Brady, you might have better experience with this
than than any of the rest of us, but you
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know my understanding was he thought he'd be okay on
Saturday and then Sunday just wasn't there for him. So,
I mean, I I think it was just one of
those things where the new injury and something that he
was dealing with and Sunday was just the wrong day
to try to play through it.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
I guess the hard thing for me to understand is
they said he was cleared to play. I don't know
many doctors who would say, yeah, this guy is cleared
if you can't lift his arm above his shoulder, especially
as a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
So that's what's surprising about it.
Speaker 11 (19:15):
Yeah, I know that that was the case on Friday,
you know. So I don't know Brady. I mean, you
know him saying it feels better on Saturday and it
looking like he's gonna be ready to play on Saturday
and then reversing himself. Yeah, I mean, I like I said, like,
the only excmation I can come up with was Sunday
was the wrong day to try to push through it.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I guess it's just kind of tough, and it's a
divisional game. It's one in which you know you've got
a rookie quarterback who's behind you, you got to feel
a little pressure wanting to be in there and play.
I'm more kind of curious at the New England Patriots, Albert.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I know you're very in tune with everything there.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Where are they at with the season as far as
Bill Belichick Mac Jones.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
They're obviously making a move for j. C.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Jackson as a need with Gonzalez being out for the
rest of the season. But I just I feel like
this is not headed towards your typical like Patriots figuring it.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Out and playoff team by the end of the year.
Speaker 11 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean, I certainly think you know, mac Jones
has got a lot on the line, and you know,
he's had some real ups and downs in that building
over the course of the last couple of years. After
a really strong rookie year, he you know, there were
some people who rubbed the wrong way last year. I
think through the spring and summer he was able to
kind of restore his standing in the building with Bill
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O'Brien coming in as his new offensive coordinator, and there's
a lot of good feeling there, you know, And now
you have you know what happened in Week three with
Sauce Gardner and and then the way he played against
Dallas where it seems almost like, you know, out of
body experience, like he was trying to be Josh Allen
or Patrick Mahomes out there, and obviously you know that's
(20:56):
not what he is. And so yeah, I mean, I
think there's a new set of questions with Matt Jones,
you know, with the Christian Gonzales injury. It's interesting, Brady,
you know, the receiver position, their tackle position has been
a problem for you know, the better part of the year,
and they haven't done so much to address it. You know,
I know that there are definitely some questions. Okay, so
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Belichick loses a defensive player and he immediately presses a
button to go fill that hole, but there wasn't the
same urgency on offense. And then as for Belichick himself,
you know, I don't think Kraft would fire him. I don't,
but I don't think Kraft is happy with the way
the roster has been constructed and the way they've drafted
over the last five years or so. And so the
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one thing I could see happening is if there's some
sort of organizational restructure where they either bring in a
strong personnel empower personnel department, and they change the organization
is structured. If the if Kraft tried to do that,
if this season goes the wrong way, this bill throw
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his hands up into the hell with it, I'm out
of here.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
When he's that close.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
To the school record, I'm not sure, you know, But
that's the one scenario I can see where maybe he's
not the coach in twenty twenty four. I'd be surprised
if he was fired, But I could definitely see Robert
Kraft doing some things that might piss him off to
the point where he might leave.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Abe. What does stay away from the facility mean? Like?
Is it that bad?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
What Claypool?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
What does it mean? Man?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Can you give us the inside deciphering of stay away
from the facility? Stay away from us? What does that
mean for Claypool and the Bears? Basically saying that.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
Well, here's a good tip. If the Steelers are giving
up on our receiver, do not go and acquire that guy,
because the Steelers are pretty good at knowing deposition and
knowing when to let all of those guys. And you know,
I think, guys, this one that hasn't worked out from
the start. It didn't work out in the moment you know,
when they traded for him last year to try to
get Justin Fields another weapon that didn't work. This offseason,
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it hasn't worked, and I don't know, I mean, it
just it feels like he's an ultra talented kid who
isn't a bad kid, but was very moody and mercurial
and sensitive. And you know, it's hard to explain it
because it just it feels like the Bears now and
the Steelers before them, have invested a lot into trying
(23:26):
to develop him and trying to get the most out
of it. Again, like was a very, very physically talented athlete,
and for one reason or another, it just hasn't worked.
And you know, I know one way to wind up
on the outs to publicly criticize the organization.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
He saw J C.
Speaker 11 (23:45):
Jackson do it was that a Monday and he gets
traded the next day. To me, this is the same
sort of thing where they had an internal issue with
Chase Claypool and once it became a public issue, that
was when they decided enough was enough. And you know,
I think they were already trending to or is this
just isn't working out? You know, obviously now it's gone
beyond that.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. So keeping it with the Bears,
who are obviously kicking off Week five later on tonight
in Washington. I mean, this whole thing, Eberflu's fields, it
feels like we're heading towards either one or both being gone.
What's the sense that you get from talking to people
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about how this thing is going to end up in Chicago.
Speaker 11 (24:30):
Well, we've Jimmy mccaskey's have a quick trigger before, right,
Like so they got rid of Mark Stressman and Phil
Emory after years. They got rid of John Fox after
three years. So they've had a quick trigger before when
they don't think things are going right. And I think
the tipping point for eber Plus might be the Alan
Williams thing, and that like that higher the defensive court
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near hire wasn't really working out, and I think eber
Plus was on the on the on the verge of
taking over calling on defense before you know what hit
the fan with Alan Williams. And the way the mccaskey's
envisioned iebra Plus when they hired him was just like
an over the top coach they didn't want to play college.
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They didn't think that that worked out when they had
Matt Naggie there. So now they have what they didn't
want and ibra Plus calling the defense. We're not sure
where the offenses with Luke Ketz, although it did look
better last week, and the young quarterback hasn't been developed,
and so I think that that, you know, could certainly
lead to some bigger questions at the end of the year.
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I know a lot of people are talking appointment this
week because you have the mini buy after the Thursday
night game. I'd be surprised if they fired him after
just twenty one games, but I think he certainly has
to do something to win his job back for twenty
twenty four the rest of the year. And then of course,
you know, if Matt eber Plus is gone and you've
got a high draft pick, then Justin Field certainly could
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wind up being gone too, And even if febra Plus's back,
if he doesn't play well, then you know, again, like
having the high draft pick could wind up dictating what
they do at quarterback. Like put it this way, guys,
like I think if Caleb Williams was available in last
year's draft, they probably would have traded Justin Fields and
so look, I just think the combination of all of
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these things. But Justin Field is in a spot where
he's gonna play, to play really, really well to be
the quarterback of the Bears next year?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Is is Desmond Ritter? I will say on a hot seat,
But but are they start of getting patient with him
in Atlanta right now? Is there a chance I mean
that I don't know what other direction did go, but
is there a thought that they're not going to give
him this entire season?
Speaker 11 (26:40):
Well, they have Taylor Hyanky on the roster, so you know,
I don't think anybody is under the illusion that Taylor
heinankey would stepping in be the long term answer. But
he does give you, i'd say, a confidence starting quarterback option.
If you decide like that Ritter isn't the guy, and
I think you'd have to get to the point where
you don't feel like you can sell Desmond Ritter to
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the locker room anymore. And certainly they could be getting
close to that now, Brady, But I don't like, I
think that what you want to look at Desmond Rider anyway,
Like when they decided when other Smiths and Terry Fondo
decided to go with him. This was sort of a
treadwater option, like they tried to go all in under
Sean Watson a year ago. But they've been careful about
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picking their spot when it comes to that, and obviously
they've had high draft picks and not taking quarterbacks the
last couple of years. When they go all in on
a quarterback, they want to be all in on the guy,
and you know, like I think that to them. Looking
at Desmond Ritter and Taylor Heineke, there was this option
to not spend twenty or thirty million dollars on Jimmy
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Garoppolo or Derek Carr and just make it work with
a cheaper option, be able to surround those cheaper options
with better players because you have more cap space to
do it, and then try to get yourself to a
spot where an opportunity is going to come along to
get a guy is going to be worth going all
in on. So, you know, I think AIG a big
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piece of Desmond Ridders, of Deserver's immedia future. It's gonna
be whether or not Arthur Smith can sell him to
the locker room, but Desmond Riders certainly needs to do
a whole lot more than what he's done so far
to have any help with being the quarterback of the
future in Atlanta, because it's not like he was viewed
as a guy who you know, like that's the sort
of guy that you'd invest the top ten pick in.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
To begin with, ab, my last question for you would be,
what has the what has the insight discussion has been
as of regard or pertains to the coverage of Taylor Swift.
It's become a craze, a ginormous story all all in itself.
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Is there any conversations in terms of how long this goes?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Is this a campaign? Was this impromptu?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Like I know everybody was talking about buzzing about it.
What was going on on the inner side of it?
From from your you.
Speaker 11 (29:03):
Know, well, if anything, LeVar, LeVar, if this is up
to if this is authentic and real, and isn't that
up to Taylor Swift in Travis Kelcey not up to
the rest of us?
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Right?
Speaker 11 (29:14):
How long it goes?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Right?
Speaker 11 (29:16):
If this is really authentic? Like right, guys, I think
I'm moving closer and closer to the idea this all,
this whole thing was trained up in a marketing meeting
in July or something like that. Like I don't know,
like the whole thing seems so contrived now with the
NBC promo with the Taylor Swift song and Taylor up
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there in the box, and I don't know, Like I
just it feels to me like one of these everybody
wins situations, you know, like obviously NBC wins, the NFL
wins because they're reaching a demographic that they've struggled to get.
Travis Kelcey certainly wins with the increased exposure and reach
that he's gotten out of it, and Taylor Swift gets
to promote her movie and her new album and whatever
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else she's got coming out. So like I think it's
I'm moving closer and closer. This is just thinking the
whole thing was streamed up in some marketing meeting because
some executive had a daughter who went to the Era's
tour and said, we got to capture this, and then
the Travis Kelcey thing happens organically with the bracelet or
whatever that was over the summer, and they're like, that's it,
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right there, there's our end. Let's go and get it.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer Ab.
We always appreciate it. Thanks so much for the time.
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 11 (30:36):
I'm just glad to give you guys some Taylor Swift
analysis there at the end.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Hey, who better than you?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
You know?
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah again, I'm about I'm already done with this stuff.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, I want to get back to football, you know much.
I'm just a football guy. Yeah, I'm tired of the
swifty stuff type of all that. I don't care if
there's a backlash on me for all this. I just
wanted to have like one thing, you know, for myself,
and that was football, and Taylor Swift had to come
and ruin it.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
Guys. You know what I love, like so my wife
reads some of this stuff like regularly, like on people
dot com. So I for this thing, I've had to
like look at a couple of things. What I love
is like when there are sources to people's relationships, you
know what I mean, Like, who would be a source
to your.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
Relationship a loser, your publicist, your best friend.
Speaker 11 (31:24):
Who would be the would it would be the source to?
Who would be like a source to your marriage, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, right, Yeah, that's a very very fair point. Albert.
All right, let's let's do it again next week and
maybe we'll have more on this developing situation in the NFL.
So the Great Albert Breer. It is Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
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Speaker 10 (31:58):
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Speaker 12 (32:09):
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Speaker 2 (32:14):
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Speaker 9 (32:15):
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Speaker 10 (33:16):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I have been losing you know you are lying low
life Gambly, The.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Genuine it's over under a right Ley d'lap.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
How'd we do last week?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Interesting week? How we do last week?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
With Fley? It was an interesting one, fellas. Guys.
Speaker 13 (33:32):
Everyone took the under on the point total, which obviously
hit the over because the Lions beat the Packers thirty
four to twenty. The total was at forty six guys.
Passing touchdowns for Jared Goff was at one and a half.
Jonas was the only one who took the under. He
had one, so good job there, Jonas. Passing in rushing
yards for Jordan Love this was a close one. It
was at two fifty and a half. He had two
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hundred and forty six passing yards negative to Russia ha
Man so came just under Brady Andonas you guys had
that one yeah up top, as well as sacks by
Aiden Hutchinson. You guys took the over at a half.
He had one and a half up top one more
and then LeVar and Brady. You guys took the under
on l Michael's complaining about the city of Green Bay.
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Good job by you guys, so it's all gotten pretty closer,
you guys. LeVar obviously had a commanding lead before this week.
But Brady and Jonas you tied last week, got three
or two? LeVar, Sorry, you had a tough one after
being on a hot streak. You're right, you had one
in four. So now it it's tied on Thursday Night
football over unders between Brady and Lvar. You guys are
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at ten and ten. Jonas, you're at nine and eleven.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, you're getting nervous, Barret.
Speaker 13 (34:44):
I'm talking about still still there, Buddy's still there at
the top.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah, I don't like this game anymore.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, up top, Jonas, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Went high on that went to LeVar, LeVar, come on,
come on, bar down low, I'm out. I'll come a
bar well ay, Lee.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
All right? One more top gun it top gun?
Speaker 13 (35:08):
Yeah, Lee, I can't do it today, Yeah, Dip can
snap it. Lee, all right, I can't do it today, guys.
Onto this week. Week five, we got Bears at Commanders.
Game total for this is forty four and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Give me the under and I'll lay the points under
and laying the points.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
I took the over there, Lamar.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I'll take the over as well.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
To Lee.
Speaker 13 (35:36):
All right, guys, well, I'm gonna take the under, Lee,
I think, I think Eric the enemy is gonna slice
and dice that awful Bears defense.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Heylee, I'm gonna take the under.
Speaker 13 (35:47):
I will mark that down, Brady taking the under and
laying the points. Fella's passing touchdowns for Sam Howells at
one and a half over.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Is it ever anything other than like one and a half?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Actually, us and Fields?
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Is that a half?
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, listen, Sam Howe might throw a touchdown with each hand,
that's how bad the Bears are. I'll take the over.
Speaker 13 (36:14):
I'll take the over as well, guys passing and rushing
yards for Justin Fields is at two forty five and
a half over.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
He has to take the under on that, damn oh man,
I don't know if he'll be able to protect him and.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
A half forty five and a half two forty five
and a half.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
Man, I'm gonna go with the under.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Hey. By the way, Sam must have for it was
a golden domer correct the offensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
He was good guy, good player.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
So the Bears got rid of him, and now he's
playing in Baltimore and having a great year. And Olin
Kreutz is always quick to point that out to people
in Town. You wanted to get rid of him, and
now you see what you got left.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
So he's spilled it well for Tyler Winderbaum.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Yeah, play well what else?
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Lee?
Speaker 13 (37:07):
Keeping it with Justin Field's total turnovers for fields at
a half?
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Man, I hate, I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I don't want to wish bat up an.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
I know I'm gonna take the.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Under, Lee, I will take the over. That's a terrible thing,
but it is what it is. Give me one of each, guys.
Speaker 13 (37:33):
LeVar Arrington jersey spotted at the game at a half,
Oh bar jerseys at.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
The game and a half that I'm gonna take the
under on that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
I'm on Bar, Can I can I just I'm taking
the over. I'm taking the over?
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Can I do like just a quick like some little
research early? And I hate doing this on the air,
You guys know that, Like I like to be buttoned
up before this segment starts. Let me go ahead. I
have some stuff I printed out on this top of
the Bleuvar's jersey and attendance. Take the underly, Wow, that's
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your over unders all right there?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
It is.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I mean, I feel like we're set and ready to
go for the beginning of week five I don't know
about you guys. I'm fired up, yeah, M