October 6, 2023 • 47 mins
It’s a Football Friday on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and the Bears end their 14-game losing streak by putting a beat down on the Commanders on TNF. Brady previews week 6 in College Football on “Quinn’s Wins.” Jonathan Taylor sounds like he’s ready to suit up for Indy. And LaVar, who won the Dick Butkus Award in 1999, reflects on the passing of the legendary linebacker.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a coupled
Joe with Lamar Arrington rating win and Jonas Knox on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, Well, how the hell we feel here on a
Friday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good morning, how you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I mean, listen, everything is good. You know, it's a Friday.
We've got a bunch of football coming up. We got
football to look back on. I mean, this is this
is what it's all about here.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Jonas, you're a Bears fan, You've got to feel really
good after last night.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I mean again, I feel like that's misinformation. Definitely another
Bears fan. But if I was a Bears fan, it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Was a pretty impressive showing.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was impressive. It only took nearly a year for
them to get another win.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
But uh yeah, days it warrants.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It warrants the celebration in the locker room afterwards, which
I did find. By the way, are those locker rooms
just really tiny or is it me? It seemed like
the visiting locker room there in Washington at RFK Stadium
was really small, you know, based on.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay, Well, nonetheless, the Chicago Bears get it done, just
like everybody expected. Six point underdogs, going into the game,
and it was a beating. Washington got a beating and
the Bears pull off a forty to twenty win. Justin
Fields was fantastic, but DJ Moore is a beast, good
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god unstoppable performance last night, and so the Bears show
some signs of life. But in totality, if you actually
look at it, the offense and Justin Fields has at
least shown something over the past couple of couple of games.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I will say that much over the past couple of
games they have looked significantly better than they looked the
previous handful of games to start off the season.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So that's optimism there, trying to be optimist.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Did we like rush to judgment with Justin Fields and
the Bears? Is that fair to throw out that question
given how they looked last week and even though they
blew a lead, and you could probably blame it on
the coaching decision to go four on fourth and on
stead of kicking a field goal, but like to have
you rushed the judgment or have people rushed the judgment
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on this Bears team? I know it's one win, but
at least offensively speaking, like he has looked pretty good
in the past two weeks.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Yeah, I don't know about rush to judgment. I thought
they had a good showing last night, and and it
was on prime television. Rush to judgement. They look good.
They look good on both sides of the ball. I
mean they were able to run the ball, they were
able to give give justin fields enough time to throw
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the ball. That's a that's a fine defensive front that
Washington has. And they were playing hard. It wasn't like
Washington wasn't wasn't playing hard. They were playing hard.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I think it's I don't want to be a rush
to saying that we we rushed to judgment, Like I
almost feel like I need to see them play play
more like that was the first time I got to
see them four quarters.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But they look good on defense.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Them having atmans in at at middle linebacker out of
out of Buffalo. They got them from Buffalo. I think
that was a tremendous ad for them. On defense. You
can tell they're they're they're a lot more stouter than
what they've been on defense. But I mean they made
some big plays. I think there was some real coverage
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coverage breakdowns, I mean or maybe they weren't. Maybe they
were just gambling too much and we're getting burnt. But
I thought they had a great showing. But I don't
think one game takes me into the realm of thinking
that we you know, there's still I don't think that
they're not I don't think they're a great team or
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or a super good team right now.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't. I don't know if they're what they are.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Can I ask you guys this, how does Washington at
home playing a team like that roll out that on
a short week?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
I don't know. I mean, that's confused.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
They were awful? Yeah, Like, how's that happen?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It's hard to put it. It's hard to figure that out.
And for a couple of reasons. One, I mean, last
week they really should have beat Philly. They gave up
that game. And I know they got kind of bludgeoned
a couple of weeks ago, but this was a team
that I thought like was going to be able to
stay competitive and they suffer a loss at home in
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primetime on a short week, which your team has the
biggest advantage there.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
And you're like, wait a second, Like this feel.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Was so slanted in favor of Washington's front being able
to pressure and get after Justin Field.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
So look, credit Luke.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Getzie, the game plan, credit the offensive line, they protected
fields better, and give Justin Fields a lot of credit.
Obviously Dj Moore with the way he played. But that
was the most surprising thing. And I know it's the
NFL and every week, you know, and any team could
beat any team, but there was just it didn't seem
like Washington want to be there the first half, and
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by the time they finally turned it on, it was
too late.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Yeah, so I came away more. I don't know if
I was.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I was impressed by what chicagoand offensively, probably more surprised
or shocked by how Washington.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Looked though, Yeah, and I just I was watching it
going so you would assume, yeah, they were competitive last week,
they're at home, you know, we talked about it a
touchdown favorite. And then the Bears coming off another devastating loss.
They've been like, all the drama, all the dysfunction there,
everything that's gone on. Everything was to your point, slanted
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in the favor of Washington for this game. And then defensively,
and Ron River is a defensive guy man like credit
to Justin Fields and DJ Moore, but there were some
of those throws. DJ Moore was wide open, like there
was just like they've blown coverage or whatever it was.
And I'm just fascinated by how that happens on a
short week when all of the advantages seemingly are going
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in your direction.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
There I'll just I'll add this, when you have a
running attack and you you're you're clicking on those types
of cylinders where not only is your your running back
getting getting some good yards. Herbert carried the ball ten times,
but he was very very effective. I mean, he had
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a seven point six yard average last night, which is
that's phenomenal to have that average per carry, and Justin
Fields ran the ball very effectively. And even even you
know how you guys say his name blask blasking, blastic, blasting.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Game, Carrie blasting game.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
He I mean, he even contributed. They they had balance,
and I think that that caught I think it caught
Washington off guard.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And think about this too, So Rashawn Johnson went out
with a concussion. Then you had the injury to Khalil
Herbert where he tried to catch a pass and it
looked like he either you know, sprained his ankle or whatever.
He couldn't really continue after that. So to your point,
they had to rely on blasting game. Who's a full
back who never touches the ball, and still Washington couldn't
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stop him, and.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
They gave it to him eight times. They gave it
to him time.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I don't get it. I really don't understand.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
That's that's what Washington has been known for. So this
is something that they have to work to distance themselves
from by having better showings. And these types of games.
They'll and you guys made mention of it. They'll play
a Philadelphia Hart and win, or they'll play at Philadelphia
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Heart and and just lose, just come up short and
playing that game. And then you see them in a
game that, for all intense purposes, they're supposed to win
the game and they don't win it. And this was
one of them. And it's on prime time. I mean,
I think it is Thursday. Still prime time, Yeah, still considerable.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I mean, I guess is it primetime in the sense
of I guess even though it's streaming, you consider it
primetime because of the time.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
But yeah, I guess, I guess it's a primetime game.
I mean if you're able to stream it. And they
lay an egg like the offense looked like they just
couldn't find a rhythm. They couldn't find a running game,
so they purely had to depend on Sam Howe moving
them down the field by air, and they and he
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did it. Like they they made it an interesting game
for a moment. Like you said, Q second half, they
came out and it seemed as though they had a
renewed type of commitment to get back into the game.
I mean, I thought they played well in the third
quarter and on into the fourth, but it just I mean,
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the Bears outclassed them. They outclassed them. They made the
big plays when they needed them. They had explosive plays,
and right when they felt like, you know, they were
in the game. I think they got it down to
what eight points, they got it down to a one
possession game or was it one possession game?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It missed a two point.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Conversion, but I think at one point they got it
down anyway, they pulled away, you know, they they they
were able to answer the call and put a nail
in the confident of the game. And if you told
me that the Bears were a competitive team in the
NFC North, and this was in competitive team going into
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this game, and I had never seen them play, and
then I saw them play last night. I think they're
a competitive team, but I don't know. That's what bad
teams do. They have good weeks and then they have
bad weeks. They're not consistent, and so I don't know.
It's weird for Washington to look the way they did
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last night, but it's interesting to see that Chicago look
the way that they did last night. And then it
makes it more intriguing to watch both teams moving forward
because Washington will come back. They'll play a hard team
and they'll beat them, and then they'll play a team
that they're supposed to beat and then they'll lose. And
that's like their pattern. That's been the pattern at least,
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so I mean don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Tough thing for them is they've got some extra rest now,
but they've got back to back weeks on the road,
but two very winnable games in Atlanta and then New York.
So it's kind of interesting to see, you know, how
this team will respond. They're two and three right now,
and I think if you drop one to Atlanta, like
you're all of a sudden in a really, really tough
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spot and starting to lose some momentum.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
And I don't know if I mean I said it
before the year.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Washington is that team that you know, they were really
impressed with Sam Howe. He wasn't drafted quite as high
if things went to the wayside and they were in
striking distance of a Kayleb Williams or Drake May, but
Killer Williams in particular because he's from the DC area.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Right, it's new ownership group. You could see how a
new ownership group like that would want to go all in.
And I'll be curious to see how the next couple
of weeks go and how we were talking about the team,
what the team looks like. And it's not like an
indictment on anyone involved. It's just anytime there's new ownership
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and things go wrong, there's always people are always looking
for an excuse to bring in their own head coach,
have their own quarterback. And that's that's where I'm curious
see where this team goes. Because the roster and the
way they've played at times this year, it makes you
think that there's no way they should be a team
drafting the top five or top three or four.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
But when you start to look at their schedule, now,
how it sets up.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Four of their next five games are on the road,
That is tough sledding in the NFL, and their only
home game is versus Philly.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, but you.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Tell me how that how that looks that out of
it because I don't care who you play on the road, like,
you know, you're you're probably going to be an underdog,
you know, and everything's stacked against you. And granted's New
England and Seattle after Philly, But I don't know, man,
like this, this schedule and the way this season for
Washington could go.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Could all of a sudden fall off in a heartbeat.
At least the way they looked last.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Night, that's any indication of a team not showing up
the first half of a primetime game at home.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, that was just crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Maybe again all credit to like DJ Moore and then
the Bears and fields, but it was it was tough
to watch the first half.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're a Washington fan, Yeah, it's a It looks like
it might be a long year there at RFK Stadium
for sure, So hopefully they can get it together.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
There are they?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yeah? I just think. I mean, look, I'm just going
to continue to.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
John Riggins is rolling over in his great.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And I'm going to keep calling it an RFK stadium.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Are they trying to build a new stadium at that
spot or something? I think is that there's always you
joking about it.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
No, I mean that's been for years, though I don't
I don't know if it's gone through now that they
got a new ownership group, but they've been trying to
rebuild RK or somewhere in the district for for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, I will say this, we do have a little
bit of good news here on the show. I know
that there might be a Commander's fan who's really depressed
right now after what happened last night. But don't worry
about it because it's a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That is true.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
You bet you rash to you know what.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
That's true?
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah, come on, come on, it's fat fat we didn't
get come on, yeah, no tanking out of beers, no tanking.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Come on, he's ready to do it, SAMs.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Ready, Yeah, come on, come on Friday.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
I will for Friday football the average. I'm not gonna.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Know that kill that killed that why because we got
to do it. You know, I know you hate the
old and the old was just like, there's nothing like
this one.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
All right?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Come on yeh Football.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Friday, come on yeah, justin Fields.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
It is Friday.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
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Speaker 1 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
By the way, I will give Sam credit for this.
I thought we were going to be inundated with music
from the Darkness, which.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Oh it's coming.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I have one song I'm gonna play later. Okay, Lee
and Sam are going to see the Darkness. Who are
They're an awful band.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Shut your mouth. But it's heard one song of their
it's a perfect name for Lee to go see.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
That's for sure. We'll be entering the darkness.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Wow. Wow, I did not Wow. I didn't know we
were in that direction, the Darkness.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Sam. They only have one song.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
No, they have a lot of incredible songs.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
They are a fantastic I believe in the thing called
love or something that was their big, like original hit
from their first record, How.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Does that song go?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Come on?
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Sam sing just a little bit of my heart? Yeah,
it's a great song, but they have other really good songs.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
How's the chorus go?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Though?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I believe there you go?
Speaker 8 (16:09):
I did any false set out there. I could play
that one later.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
That was impressive. We'll play some thinking. Oh man, Lee,
you're going to be at the bar the entire time. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Sam sent me like six songs yesterday and I didn't
recognize a single one of them. It no, I know,
because they Yeah, they had that big one hit hold on.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
So it's really Sam's a big fan of the band,
not so much Lee.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Well I am. Yeah. I've been a fan of this
band since I was a sophomore in high school. I said, Lee,
do you want to go with me to this group?
I have never seen him before, and yeah, we're going.
Tickets weren't too bad, So it's going to be at
the Wilter.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
You're excited there just to go.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Lee is going to have a great time.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Social support.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Lee's got to replace you know who? He wants to go.
Seed just gotta find a new niche.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You know that is crue.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna show Sam the Metro. He's never gone
on the La Metro before. We can't wait to get shived.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, it's it's such an unnecessary form of transportation. Lee,
like you just you love adding an element to something
that drop us off kind of close, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You looked up the route? Yes?
Speaker 8 (17:23):
And yes I do like a little element of danger.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Have you seen who rides the Metro?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I see on the news who rides the met Metro
and hobos?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Have you ever actually, by the way, like looked up
any directions that Lee's a part of.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Because Lee is not very good navigating. I don't know, don't.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Know why you say this.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
They got us around Dublin.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Just fine, No, No, that's not true that.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I found all the speakeasies. I just go, I just
keep going downstairs.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Well, no, you smell them.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, that's what Lee does.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You smells Okay, Lebar, I'm glad you brought that up
because Lee, because I thought it was a one time
thing in Ireland. He did it in South Carolina where
we were walking down the main street and Lee's like,
you know, my scent is taking me here, Like he
literally lifts his nose in the air and he smells
for what the hotspot is?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Am I lying?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, Yeah, that's that's really what he does. Yeah, like
my scent is bringing me to here. Remember remember Brady,
we walked down some alley and it looked like it
was a brothel in Dublin. And Lee's like, I'm feeling
I'm sensing this, and you and I are looking at
each other like, Lee, you've never been here, you have
no idea where we're going. And that's their own moonshine
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here I can smile.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't recall any of this. I just remember Lee
being all four directions. His sense of smell may be fine,
but he was not good with directions.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, well listen, uh, just just find if you can
find your way out of that concert. League, You're doing good.
Just get away from that crummy band. As soon as
the played at some bowling alley.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Sam Wolmartime, how does it go?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
No?
Speaker 8 (19:03):
No, no, once was enough on Sam, We forget. People
are gonna turn off the radio.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Here's a problem is.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You can't you can't say you love a band if
you're like embarrassed even sing the lyrics.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I sang it earlier.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Wasn't that good enough?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, come on one more time though, it was really good.
Thank you, Come on, Sam, and that'll do it.
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Speaker 5 (19:54):
And it's back.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Come on, that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And we started off in college station as the number
eleven Alabama Crimson Tide Head to College says take on
the Aggies. Now, this line earlier in the week was
Bama giving Texas and m two and a half. It's
now down to one point. That might concern some people,
but not me. I'm laying the point with Bama hare
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because all right, don't look now, Bama was ripped off
a couple double digit wins reversus a couple of SEC opponents.
The past couple of weeks, they found their rhythm within
the offense, running the football Jalen Neuro their quarterback as
part of that, but McClellan and Roydale Williams in the backfield,
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and the Bama defense has been lights out since they're
lost to Texas.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
They've only given up on average.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Two hundred and seventy yards total yards per game and
three total touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Now and m's missing the starting quarterback, Connor Wigman.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But Max Johnson, Yes, that's the son of Brad Johnson,
the Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
He's played well in.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
A spot, dude in his absence five touchdowns, won only
one interception, and look, I think the time their biggest
key is they're going to have to slow down the
dynamic playmaker that is wide receiver Evan Stewart for text
and m who's got a TD catch at each of
the last two games, a sixth in the conference, and
receiving yards. The matchup will ultimately be won and lost
on the line of scrimmage for Texas AM's defensive front
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that's very talented and very good versus the rushing attack
of Bama.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
But I think Bama goes in.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
They figure this thing out, they get another win in
a tough environment. So lay the point with Bama and
also the Unders the best play. Next up, the Wildcats
head to Athens, Georgia, to take on the Bulldogs. Kentucky
coming off their big win over Florida and now vaults
them into the top twenty five and number twenty.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
George is still the number one team in the country.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And this game is sitting on a spread of fourteen
and a half points. That's a lot and especially considering
this is not You're the same Georgia defense we saw
the past two years, all right. They're giving up two
hundred and nineteen yards on the ground and two touchdowns
to Auburn last week, and they're second to last and
the SEC with sacks only eight on the year. They're
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not getting as much pressure, they're not stopping opponents quite
as much. And if you watch college football, you'll know
the name Ray Davis, the running back for Kentucky. You
had a huge game last week, two hundred and eighty
yards on the ground, three touchdowns. He's leading the SEC
and yards from scrimmage. And then Devin Lear, the transferred
quarterback for Kentucky. He has turned the football over a
little bit this season, but he gives them the ability
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to stretch the field vertibly. So this is a game
where we've seen George in some close contests.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
I think this is another one.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Kentucky keeps it within the fourteen and a half points,
you take those points.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Next up, Notre Dame heads to Louisville, that.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Top twenty five matchup between these two teams to take
on an undefeated Louisville team that's really been highlighted by
their rushing attack. Jordanette, running running back for them, has
been a.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Phenomenal this year.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Jack Plumber, the transfer quarterback that came from Purdue with
Jeff Brohm down to Louisville, has been doing a good
job this season eleven touchdowns, six interceptions. But this is
gonna be a tough matchup for the Notre Dame fighting Irish.
This is back to back weeks now, after Ohio State
last week, beating Duke on the road, now going on
the road again in primetime to beat Louisville, and I
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think Louisville's up for the task. So this is gonna
be a close one. Notre Dame wins. But you take
the six and a half points here in Louisville, and
then finally the Red River shootout, we've got Oklahoma and Texas.
They're the Dallas Fairgrounds. This line's changed a little bit
this week. Texas was giving six points. This line's now
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down to five in a lot of books. And look,
this has been gonna be billed as two high powered
offensive attacks with Quinn Viewers for Texas Dylan Gabriel for Oklahoma.
But the truth of the matter is these are the
top two defense in the Big Twelve right now. So
it's going to be more of a battle in the
trenches in my opinion, and it's really going to come
down to this, can Oklahoma's defense stop Jonathan Brooks for Texas,
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who is quietly putting together one of the best seasons
in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
He leads the.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Conference in rushing yards five rushing touchdowns this season as well,
and ut is averaging forty yards or more on the
ground when they faced against a stiffer competition, He's been
able to average that more so than Oklahoma. So I
think it actually comes down to the running game. If
Texas can still remain balanced in the rushing attack. Yours
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will make enough big plays to examer Worthy and ad Mitchell,
and I think Texas covers the number here, so you
lay the five points here with Texas.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Bingo, Bengo.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Now what did you have we been? Have we kept
track of your results over the past couple of weeks?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
No, unless Lee has. But I go back and look
through it and come up with the tally for you.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you had to guess on the right side of things.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean some of these are very
similar to another job because I have to pick a
bunch for another job.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So that has been over five hundred this year.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And by the way, that Notre Dame covering against Duke
never in doubt last week, that.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Was never in dow.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
This won't be tough. I'll tell you much this much.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Jeff brom I as a coach, I respect a tome
from talking with him. You know, former quarterback, but Jahar
John Jordan, their running back. He lead the ACC in Russia.
He's he's gonna be a tough out. Notre Name struggle
to stop the rushing attack last week with with Duke
and Riley Leonard their quarterback as part of it, and
they runt, a lot of trick plays, Like I'm telling you,
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Louis of what at some point will try a flee
flicker Like that's just Jeff Brom He always he always
has a flee flicker, some sort of gadget, a trick
play in his back pocket that he breaks out for
big moments.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
So it's gonna be a tough for you. Last week
for me, I was watching then, I was like, under
Q is stressed.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It was awesome. That was a great game, great finish.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was a great game, good environment.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It wasn't stressful, and I don't I don't stress over
any of this stuff. I obviously pull for those guys,
you know, your root for him. But the uh looked
at Sam Harmon made a very heavy play, you know,
taking off running the wide receiver group's been banged up.
They should be healthier for this week's matchup. But uh,
you know, estimate breaking through. You know everyone's plan was
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to kick a field goal, and he's like, nope, I'm
calling game right now.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I'm I'm gonna take this thing into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, Marcus Freeman looked pretty relieved at the end of
that thing. That's a pretty impressive bounce back win too,
especially coming off heartbreak the week before, and then Penn
State's on a buy this week. There's a bunch of
teams that are on buys this week. What was What
did you do in college on the bye week? Like,
do you guys just throw a rager kager on the
Saturday that you're not playing a game, or you just
(26:55):
get together watch college football Day?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
What's that far?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
What do you do? Man? What used to do well?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I only had two two two times that were matter
because freshman year, I ain't really do anything sophomore in
junior year, we used to go to I had a
whole lot of teammates from Virginia, so this is like
homecoming time of the year. So we would go to
like Virginia I want to say Virginia Union, something like that,
(27:24):
Virginia Union or Virginia State, so is an HBCU. We
used to go to their their homecomings. R Yeah, and
we get like one room and it'd be like six
seven of us.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So imagine that sleep that sleep set up.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Would you get like a cooler of beers? Would you
go like rolling rock cans just so you could fit
more in the cooler?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
You go bottles. What do we think?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
No, you get we weren't drinking. We weren't drinking.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
We got some good, good home some some southern home
looking you know that. You know what became my favorite
was this strawberry. It was like a strawberry type of
like sponge cake or something like that. It was kind
of maybe strawberry pound cake.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Maybe it was shortcake.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
It wasn't strawberry shortcake. It's like a pound cake, but
it was strawberry. It was freaking amazing whatever it was.
That was kind of when I got introduced to it.
But yeah, it's like fried chicken, man fried chicken.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
When you went down, you don't have one cocktail.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I don't recall drinking, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like using somebody's fake ID you go to a liquor store,
buy some mad Dog twenty twenty port.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like all right, or bye week, it's probably a little
more what you're thinking of. They're jonas. Early on, I didn't.
I would just go back home. But I remember my
twenty first birthday fell on the bye week my junior year,
and so we went out, had had a good time.
Like most people gone celebrate their twenty first birthday, I
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had way too many shots did not end well for me.
I think I was playing dude, where's my car? Like
the next day, so I try to figure out like
where someone had left it at one point. But it
was I mean, honestly, like the problem with that was
there was an incident that ensued from us all being
out at that bar. I was not a porter or
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aware of it, but that was the end of our
fun going out that year, so it was house parties
from that moving forward.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Well, yeah, if you're one of those what Lee, Lee,
you got any comments on his behavior?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I want to know what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think a couple of guys on our team had
like got into it with some local guys there and
it ended up being like they almost something that the
local guys then tried to like jump them when the
bar had closed up, I guess, and uh, that didn't
work out for the for the local guys there.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
But the bottom line is like word got back.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
You know, a couple of guys were punished and then
the entire team was told like we could not go
out damn. So basically we just had to resort to
house parties.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Listen, don't don't step to Jessamarga. That's what happens.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yeah, you can go name names. It definitely wasn't Jeff.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So just trying to figure this out, all right, So
there it is.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
We were just we were trying to talk to girls.
That was what we did on our bot. We tried
to talk to girls. I was looking for like a
Kas Delta's, you know, Sigmas or not Sigmas, Zetas Zaida's. Yeah, no,
not Sigmas, Paul Higa, you know, Kappa Sweethearts, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
We were we was on the yard man, you know,
but nobody knew who we work. Don't know that? Yeah, yeah,
I know, y'all don't it's cultural.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Well, we don't have a.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Greek system that are dam y'all don't.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
No, that's part of the like one of the biggest differences.
So a lot of the like eighty percent of the
student population stays in the dorms, so there's a lot
more what they call dorm pride. So kind of where
you like, where you stayed is like where you're was,
like was there like your hood, was your frat or
your sore damn right?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Oh yeah, yep, that's interesting. Yeah, joy me some Sores
shouts out to all of.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Y'all the South Bend projects.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Man, I'm married one, I'm married a Delta. Yeah, did you?
I did?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I did it damn right.
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Speaker 3 (31:59):
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Speaker 2 (32:24):
We were waiting to see whether or not Jim Mersey's
buddy Jonathan Taylor was going to show back up in
Indianapolis ready to go, and apparently that is the case.
Jonathan Taylor is back. He was back at practice. He
actually spoke with the media yesterday not only about his
health but also about his commitment and about the future.
Speaker 11 (32:44):
It feels really good to finally be healthy. I mean,
number one, the whole time, the main goal was to
be healthy throughout.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
This whole time.
Speaker 11 (32:50):
Been a lot of things said than done, but at
the end of the day, the number one overall goal
for everybody was for me to get healthy. I don't
think it matters on if I'm say I'm committed or not,
because I'm here. I mean, if somebody wasn't committed, they
wouldn't be here. I'm here right now, and my number
one thing is to take care of my teammates. A
lot of people worry about what I want. What I
want doesn't matter what necessarily I want. What matters is
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what this team needs, what this team wants, what this
city wants.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So there's JT back in Indianapolis, possibly playing this weekend,
and all of a sudden, a pivotal matchup in the
South against Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Yes, I mean he sounds like he's playing.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Then, huh, seems like it.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So, I mean, it's just it's odd it's taken such
a I guess a turn. And I know, you know,
supposedly here saying Jonathan Taylor have spoken, so maybe they
buried the hatchet. I have no idea, but the look
the Colts could use them, There's there's no doubt Zach
Moss has been good in his place, but like they
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are in a spot where I don't know, I look
at him. I think anyone could win this division right
now if it does feel that wide open, if Anthony
Richard Richard can stay healthy and with how they've looked
so far offensively, like, I give them every shot in
that division, and it's just it's and if he's a
part of that team and he could be the game
breaker he's kind of been for them. Yeah, like you said,
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they've a good shot as anyone else. So it look
the league's better when good players like Jonathan Taylor are playing.
So I'm hoping this gets cleared up, either that he
plays this season or he gets somewhere else for his plan.
Even if he's just kind of saying all the right
things right now, but regardless, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
See him back on the field. This is a competitive
Colts team. I didn't think they would be as competitive
as they are, and their defense look good and they
look to have what they need out of Richardson at
the quarterback position. As you mentioned, Q, major part is
if he could stay on the field and be healthy
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for them. But if I'm Jonathan Taylor, this is something.
This is an opportunity for him to build build value,
tinue to build value. Now what that value ends up being,
I think you cross that bridge once you get there.
And I think he said that as much as in
terms of what he wants, like it doesn't matter at
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this moment. You know, what matters is and a lot
of guys, a guy like Jonathan Taylor, I don't think
that's just tongue in cheek. I think he really means
it when he says it's about him caring for for
his teammates, like him being there for his teammates.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I think he truly believes that. You know, I think
a lot.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Of times you can you can put aside the personal
motivations and the personal goals, you know, even even financially,
and put those things aside and and do what you
need to do as a teammate and if he's able
to come in and be the positive contributor that I'm
sure everybody is anticipating him to be. If he is healthy,
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he does make this a better team. And if he
makes it a better team and a lot of the
offense you know, can run through him. It takes pressure
off of a young quarterback and probably gives them a
lot of confidence in terms of what they can create
balance wise on offense. And it does seem like a
doable task to be able to win their division. I
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think it's very plausible to think that the Colts could
play out a level you know where we're sitting there.
Maybe I don't know, maybe if it's as far as
saying a head scratcher that they're as good as they are,
but they could turn out to be a pretty impressive
team moving forward as we get deeper into the season.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well, interesting, Jack Jacksonville has been disappointing. The Jaguars have
not been the team I think a lot of people
thought they've been. And they've got Buffalo this weekend and
they're an underdog in London like so, yeah, the division's
wide open.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
And I also think to your point, I agree.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I think I buy what he said, Like, I don't
think that's just him blowing smoke and saying whatever's nice
to to play. Play this whole thing out and be like, Okay,
well I'll play nice. Just get me out of here
by the trade deadline later this month. But it just
it goes back to what we talked about in the
off season. Why would you want to screw this up
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with a guy like that who would be so great
for the culture you're trying to change there with a
new regime and a new quarterback. Why would you wouldn't
you want more of those guys in the building. Everybody
loves the guy and he's he's doing it the right way.
He's saying all the all the right things and he
means all of it. And unless his body is just
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completely shelled and he and he's nowhere close to the play, Yeah, Like,
why would you want to screw that up with Jonathan Taylor?
That's the part that I've never understood with Jim Mersey's
approach of this whole thing.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
It's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I've never really understood a lot of the things Jim
Mersey does. But you know, I mean, I'm not sure
you guys feel about him, But he seems to interesting things.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
He is fun, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
I mean, he's the owner, has.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Lost, he's lost in an AFC championship game, and he's
put up a banner for AFC finalists.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
So there's that. You won't find that anywhere else in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well, he's showing off for all the Combine people, the
people that show up every year, like, hey, look what
we got here.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Look at this news.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
That's like one of those banners. When you look up
you see You're like, huh, that's different. I don't see
that anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I think the Sacramento Kings put a Summer league banner
up in their building.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yeah, but did they win a summer league championship?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Okay, He's like saying, like, hey, finalist. I mean I
remember looking at thinking myself, oh so oh, they're celebrating
the fact they got there. All right, all right, that's uh,
Like I'm all for positivity, all right, good vibes, positive vibes,
let's go. But like that no one else has done
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in the NFL. They're they're on an island on that one.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, well listen, you know, you belly up to the bar.
He starts through Amazon, you see something you could buy,
and you go and custom and customize a little banner
and put this up as just a participant. Why why
not fire it up there? You know, raise that bad boy?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Did they have a big ceremony for it? Like who
came out and raised the banner? Would it be like
a Jeff Saturday?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Or like a good point?
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I wonder too if you make a big deal about
it or if you just have, like go to a
couple of guys like, hey, look, I know there's only
two of you, but how we hung those other banners
up there? Because I got one. I want to hang
in there. I don't really want anyone to know. I
just want them to kind of come in and like
see it. He's like, but I want to make a
big deal about it, but I want to also to
be hanging up there. So you two guys go over
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about eleven o'clock. Right, no one should be in the building,
no one should be in local soil. You climb up there,
and you hang that AFC finalist flag. Okay, and look,
if anything happens, all right, well it's on you.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
All right.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
If you don't come back, it's on you. I need
that banner up there.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Okay, he imagine like you just like they rolled out,
it's a big presentation, and he just says, hey, we
got a couple of legendary Colts players, and outwalk Curtis
Painter and Ken Dilger and they just raised that bad
boy up to the top.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
So you're going the entire different direction here. Yeah, I'm
saying the exact opposite of it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I think if you're going to do this, there's got
to be pageantry, there's got to be a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
It's already done.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
That's the problem is, like it's up there and you
never heard about it.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
It could have been just you're painting an unrealistic scenario,
but it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Could have been just for employees, like just for employees
of the team, like a special who knows, but hey,
Jonathan Taylor's back, So congratulations in the Indianapolis Colts to
get another weapon. And then we get to see how
this plays out here because again, the trade deadline is
later this month, so who knows. Maybe it's not for
long there, but seems.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Like he's going to be there for a little while.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. You know, we are going to
advocation mist coming up here shortly. But one story that
came out yesterday, not long before the game between the
Bears and the Commanders, was the passing of the Great
Dick Buckis eighty years old, passed away at his home
in Malibu. Just a legend on and off the field.
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You hear nothing but good things about it. He's also
a pretty funny follow on Twitter. He would always be
a smartass, you know, even up to very recently when
he would go to games or whether it be an
Illinois game or watching the Bears play, he always had
that sense of humor. I mean, for God's sakes, they
named an award after him, Like some legendary players have
won the Butkus Award, guys like Chris Claiborne, Andy Katzen, Moyer,
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E J. Henderson, I mean, Derek Johnson, Patrick Willis, Rolando
mcl von Miller, Like, am I missing anybody? Mantai Tao?
Am I missing anybody that won that award? Rokwan Smith,
Devin White, I.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Mean, Brian Bosworth, Oh God, Albert.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah, I think we got it pretty much covered, Brady.
Is there anybody else from anybody?
Speaker 4 (42:01):
I mean, I think it's incredible that he finished what
like sixth and I think third in back to back
years in the Heisman. I mean it's tough to do
that as a defensive player. You know, he's I mean,
he was.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
A hell of a college player. Obviously a Hall of famer.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I mean, how many guys are a college Hall of
famers and professional hall of famers.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
He's in rarefied air and he you know, that was
back during the glory day. It's not about the Bears
and their and their win like that was back during
the glory days of the Bears when he was there obviously,
and what he was able to accomplish. So tough loss, man,
it always is when you when you see like an
all time great, but a guy who, as you pointed out,
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you know, had a big personality too.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
Yeah he was. He was awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
And I am getting some other reports here all LaVar,
you won the Budkus Award as well too in nineteen
ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I am a book this award winner.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
It's awesome. It's gotta be cool.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
It's quite an honor, and it's it's it's not quite
an honor now because of him his passing. But I
mean it's quite an honor because you know all the
things that you heard Q say. I mean, he's he's
a stud you know, and he was the gold standard
and still continues to be the gold standard. I mean,
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as far removed as people may be from ever having
seen him play, I think the the way he played
the game has vibrated through through time.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's lasted the test of time.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
He's never become an irrelevant figure, you know, to what
football represents. I mean, if you were to have a
picture of you know, what tough heart knows football looks like,
and it were to be personified in a player, there'd
be a couple of players that would come to mind,
and one of the first names that would always be
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mentioned in those sentences would be Dick Buckets. So for me,
I know, as as a former award winner and someone
who still represents you know, that award and what it
what it represents, I felt like I spoke for us
all when I put my message out that you know,
will continue to carry on his legacy. Every one of
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us that that you know wins that trophy and represents
what what he has ultimately represented.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
It's you know, I felt a very very large amount
of pride, you know, being able to to say what
my relation, uh to to Dick was. And and I
called him uncle uncle, you know, uncle Dick. But meeting
him was you know, there were two guys. I'm not
a I'm not a starstruck type of guy, like nothing
(44:47):
really moves me. Like I met Michael Jordan and it
was like, oh, it's cool I met Michael Jordan, or
met Mike Tyson, Like met Mike Tyson, Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I met some some pretty famous people. I was like,
I met some famous people.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
But when I met Lawrence Taylor for the first time,
it was like my body left my you know, my
spirit left my body for a second, Like it's like, whoa,
is that really Lawrence Taylor walking towards me right now?
It was unexpected when I met him, and I had
an outer body experience just because of how big of
a fan I am of Lawrence Taylor. But the other
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one was when I went to the awards banquet for
the Buckets and met him for the first time, and
it just it was the same type of it was
just a very surreal moment in time, and I was
able to meet him a few more times after that,
but the first time was just one of the most
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earth moving experiences for me, and it just made me
feel like I mattered and it made me feel like
I belonged and that all the hard work had paid off,
and you know, everything that you did leading up to that,
just man, you get a moment where you get to
shake his hand and he's looking at you like you're
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you're the best of me. You know, it's like I
was the greatest to ever do it at the college level.
You know, I'm one of the greatest to ever do
it at the pro level, and I'm representing that award
like he's talking to me, like he's proud of me,
and you know, he set that standard. He set a
standard where actually, like I said, it stood the test
of time, where I think a lot of people, even
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if you know, the younger versions, the younger generations of guys,
don't really know you know, by seeing it.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
I think his name still is one of those names.
You know, there are a few names, you know, Lawrence
on the defense side of the
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Ball, especially at the linebacker position, there's a few names
that jump out at you, you know, and Dick Buckets
is on that short list of guys and he definitely
will be missed, but his presence will always be felt
because there's so many of us that will always sing
his p raises and talk about what he represented as
a person, but you know also what he represented as
(47:05):
a player as well well, said
This is the best of two pros and a coupled
Joe with Lamar Arrington rating win and Jonas Knox on.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio, Well, how the hell we feel here on a
Friday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good morning, how you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I mean, listen, everything is good. You know, it's a Friday.
We've got a bunch of football coming up. We got
football to look back on. I mean, this is this
is what it's all about here.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Jonas, you're a Bears fan, You've got to feel really
good after last night.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I mean again, I feel like that's misinformation. Definitely another
Bears fan. But if I was a Bears fan, it.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Was a pretty impressive showing.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
It was impressive. It only took nearly a year for
them to get another win.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
But uh yeah, days it warrants.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
It warrants the celebration in the locker room afterwards, which
I did find. By the way, are those locker rooms
just really tiny or is it me? It seemed like
the visiting locker room there in Washington at RFK Stadium
was really small, you know, based on.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
I'm just wondering.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Okay, Well, nonetheless, the Chicago Bears get it done, just
like everybody expected. Six point underdogs, going into the game,
and it was a beating. Washington got a beating and
the Bears pull off a forty to twenty win. Justin
Fields was fantastic, but DJ Moore is a beast, good
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god unstoppable performance last night, and so the Bears show
some signs of life. But in totality, if you actually
look at it, the offense and Justin Fields has at
least shown something over the past couple of couple of games.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
I'll say that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I will say that much over the past couple of
games they have looked significantly better than they looked the
previous handful of games to start off the season.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
So that's optimism there, trying to be optimist.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Did we like rush to judgment with Justin Fields and
the Bears? Is that fair to throw out that question
given how they looked last week and even though they
blew a lead, and you could probably blame it on
the coaching decision to go four on fourth and on
stead of kicking a field goal, but like to have
you rushed the judgment or have people rushed the judgment
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on this Bears team? I know it's one win, but
at least offensively speaking, like he has looked pretty good
in the past two weeks.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Yeah, I don't know about rush to judgment. I thought
they had a good showing last night, and and it
was on prime television. Rush to judgement. They look good.
They look good on both sides of the ball. I
mean they were able to run the ball, they were
able to give give justin fields enough time to throw
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the ball. That's a that's a fine defensive front that
Washington has. And they were playing hard. It wasn't like
Washington wasn't wasn't playing hard. They were playing hard.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I think it's I don't want to be a rush
to saying that we we rushed to judgment, Like I
almost feel like I need to see them play play
more like that was the first time I got to
see them four quarters.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
But they look good on defense.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Them having atmans in at at middle linebacker out of
out of Buffalo. They got them from Buffalo. I think
that was a tremendous ad for them. On defense. You
can tell they're they're they're a lot more stouter than
what they've been on defense. But I mean they made
some big plays. I think there was some real coverage
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coverage breakdowns, I mean or maybe they weren't. Maybe they
were just gambling too much and we're getting burnt. But
I thought they had a great showing. But I don't
think one game takes me into the realm of thinking
that we you know, there's still I don't think that
they're not I don't think they're a great team or
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or a super good team right now.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't. I don't know if they're what they are.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Can I ask you guys this, how does Washington at
home playing a team like that roll out that on
a short week?
Speaker 7 (04:19):
I don't know. I mean, that's confused.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
They were awful? Yeah, Like, how's that happen?
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It's hard to put it. It's hard to figure that out.
And for a couple of reasons. One, I mean, last
week they really should have beat Philly. They gave up
that game. And I know they got kind of bludgeoned
a couple of weeks ago, but this was a team
that I thought like was going to be able to
stay competitive and they suffer a loss at home in
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primetime on a short week, which your team has the
biggest advantage there.
Speaker 7 (04:53):
And you're like, wait a second, Like this feel.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Was so slanted in favor of Washington's front being able
to pressure and get after Justin Field.
Speaker 7 (05:02):
So look, credit Luke.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Getzie, the game plan, credit the offensive line, they protected
fields better, and give Justin Fields a lot of credit.
Obviously Dj Moore with the way he played. But that
was the most surprising thing. And I know it's the
NFL and every week, you know, and any team could
beat any team, but there was just it didn't seem
like Washington want to be there the first half, and
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by the time they finally turned it on, it was
too late.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Yeah, so I came away more. I don't know if
I was.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I was impressed by what chicagoand offensively, probably more surprised
or shocked by how Washington.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Looked though, Yeah, and I just I was watching it
going so you would assume, yeah, they were competitive last week,
they're at home, you know, we talked about it a
touchdown favorite. And then the Bears coming off another devastating loss.
They've been like, all the drama, all the dysfunction there,
everything that's gone on. Everything was to your point, slanted
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in the favor of Washington for this game. And then defensively,
and Ron River is a defensive guy man like credit
to Justin Fields and DJ Moore, but there were some
of those throws. DJ Moore was wide open, like there
was just like they've blown coverage or whatever it was.
And I'm just fascinated by how that happens on a
short week when all of the advantages seemingly are going
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in your direction.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
There I'll just I'll add this, when you have a
running attack and you you're you're clicking on those types
of cylinders where not only is your your running back
getting getting some good yards. Herbert carried the ball ten times,
but he was very very effective. I mean, he had
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a seven point six yard average last night, which is
that's phenomenal to have that average per carry, and Justin
Fields ran the ball very effectively. And even even you
know how you guys say his name blask blasking, blastic, blasting.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Game, Carrie blasting game.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
He I mean, he even contributed. They they had balance,
and I think that that caught I think it caught
Washington off guard.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And think about this too, So Rashawn Johnson went out
with a concussion. Then you had the injury to Khalil
Herbert where he tried to catch a pass and it
looked like he either you know, sprained his ankle or whatever.
He couldn't really continue after that. So to your point,
they had to rely on blasting game. Who's a full
back who never touches the ball, and still Washington couldn't
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stop him, and.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
They gave it to him eight times. They gave it
to him time.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I don't get it. I really don't understand.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
That's that's what Washington has been known for. So this
is something that they have to work to distance themselves
from by having better showings. And these types of games.
They'll and you guys made mention of it. They'll play
a Philadelphia Hart and win, or they'll play at Philadelphia
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Heart and and just lose, just come up short and
playing that game. And then you see them in a
game that, for all intense purposes, they're supposed to win
the game and they don't win it. And this was
one of them. And it's on prime time. I mean,
I think it is Thursday. Still prime time, Yeah, still considerable.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I mean, I guess is it primetime in the sense
of I guess even though it's streaming, you consider it
primetime because of the time.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
But yeah, I guess, I guess it's a primetime game.
I mean if you're able to stream it. And they
lay an egg like the offense looked like they just
couldn't find a rhythm. They couldn't find a running game,
so they purely had to depend on Sam Howe moving
them down the field by air, and they and he
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did it. Like they they made it an interesting game
for a moment. Like you said, Q second half, they
came out and it seemed as though they had a
renewed type of commitment to get back into the game.
I mean, I thought they played well in the third
quarter and on into the fourth, but it just I mean,
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the Bears outclassed them. They outclassed them. They made the
big plays when they needed them. They had explosive plays,
and right when they felt like, you know, they were
in the game. I think they got it down to
what eight points, they got it down to a one
possession game or was it one possession game?
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It missed a two point.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Conversion, but I think at one point they got it
down anyway, they pulled away, you know, they they they
were able to answer the call and put a nail
in the confident of the game. And if you told
me that the Bears were a competitive team in the
NFC North, and this was in competitive team going into
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this game, and I had never seen them play, and
then I saw them play last night. I think they're
a competitive team, but I don't know. That's what bad
teams do. They have good weeks and then they have
bad weeks. They're not consistent, and so I don't know.
It's weird for Washington to look the way they did
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last night, but it's interesting to see that Chicago look
the way that they did last night. And then it
makes it more intriguing to watch both teams moving forward
because Washington will come back. They'll play a hard team
and they'll beat them, and then they'll play a team
that they're supposed to beat and then they'll lose. And
that's like their pattern. That's been the pattern at least,
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so I mean don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Tough thing for them is they've got some extra rest now,
but they've got back to back weeks on the road,
but two very winnable games in Atlanta and then New York.
So it's kind of interesting to see, you know, how
this team will respond. They're two and three right now,
and I think if you drop one to Atlanta, like
you're all of a sudden in a really, really tough
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spot and starting to lose some momentum.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
And I don't know if I mean I said it
before the year.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Washington is that team that you know, they were really
impressed with Sam Howe. He wasn't drafted quite as high
if things went to the wayside and they were in
striking distance of a Kayleb Williams or Drake May, but
Killer Williams in particular because he's from the DC area.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Right, it's new ownership group. You could see how a
new ownership group like that would want to go all in.
And I'll be curious to see how the next couple
of weeks go and how we were talking about the team,
what the team looks like. And it's not like an
indictment on anyone involved. It's just anytime there's new ownership
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and things go wrong, there's always people are always looking
for an excuse to bring in their own head coach,
have their own quarterback. And that's that's where I'm curious
see where this team goes. Because the roster and the
way they've played at times this year, it makes you
think that there's no way they should be a team
drafting the top five or top three or four.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
But when you start to look at their schedule, now,
how it sets up.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Four of their next five games are on the road,
That is tough sledding in the NFL, and their only
home game is versus Philly.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, but you.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Tell me how that how that looks that out of
it because I don't care who you play on the road, like,
you know, you're you're probably going to be an underdog,
you know, and everything's stacked against you. And granted's New
England and Seattle after Philly, But I don't know, man,
like this, this schedule and the way this season for
Washington could go.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Could all of a sudden fall off in a heartbeat.
At least the way they looked last.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Night, that's any indication of a team not showing up
the first half of a primetime game at home.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, that was just crazy.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Maybe again all credit to like DJ Moore and then
the Bears and fields, but it was it was tough
to watch the first half.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're a Washington fan, Yeah, it's a It looks like
it might be a long year there at RFK Stadium
for sure, So hopefully they can get it together.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
There are they?
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Yeah? I just think. I mean, look, I'm just going
to continue to.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
John Riggins is rolling over in his great.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And I'm going to keep calling it an RFK stadium.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Are they trying to build a new stadium at that
spot or something? I think is that there's always you
joking about it.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
No, I mean that's been for years, though I don't
I don't know if it's gone through now that they
got a new ownership group, but they've been trying to
rebuild RK or somewhere in the district for for a while.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, I will say this, we do have a little
bit of good news here on the show. I know
that there might be a Commander's fan who's really depressed
right now after what happened last night. But don't worry
about it because it's a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That is true.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
You bet you rash to you know what.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
That's true?
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah, come on, come on, it's fat fat we didn't
get come on, yeah, no tanking out of beers, no tanking.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Come on, he's ready to do it, SAMs.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Ready, Yeah, come on, come on Friday.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
I will for Friday football the average. I'm not gonna.
Speaker 9 (14:27):
Know that kill that killed that why because we got
to do it. You know, I know you hate the
old and the old was just like, there's nothing like
this one.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
All right?
Speaker 7 (14:42):
Come on yeh Football.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Friday, come on yeah, justin Fields.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
It is Friday.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
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Speaker 2 (15:10):
By the way, I will give Sam credit for this.
I thought we were going to be inundated with music
from the Darkness, which.
Speaker 8 (15:16):
Oh it's coming.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I have one song I'm gonna play later. Okay, Lee
and Sam are going to see the Darkness. Who are
They're an awful band.
Speaker 8 (15:25):
Shut your mouth. But it's heard one song of their
it's a perfect name for Lee to go see.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
That's for sure. We'll be entering the darkness.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Wow. Wow, I did not Wow. I didn't know we
were in that direction, the Darkness.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Sam. They only have one song.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
No, they have a lot of incredible songs.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
They are a fantastic I believe in the thing called
love or something that was their big, like original hit
from their first record, How.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
Does that song go?
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Come on?
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Sam sing just a little bit of my heart? Yeah,
it's a great song, but they have other really good songs.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (16:01):
How's the chorus go?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Though?
Speaker 7 (16:03):
I believe there you go?
Speaker 8 (16:09):
I did any false set out there. I could play
that one later.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
That was impressive. We'll play some thinking. Oh man, Lee,
you're going to be at the bar the entire time. Absolutely.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Sam sent me like six songs yesterday and I didn't
recognize a single one of them. It no, I know,
because they Yeah, they had that big one hit hold on.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
So it's really Sam's a big fan of the band,
not so much Lee.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
Well I am. Yeah. I've been a fan of this
band since I was a sophomore in high school. I said, Lee,
do you want to go with me to this group?
I have never seen him before, and yeah, we're going.
Tickets weren't too bad, So it's going to be at
the Wilter.
Speaker 7 (16:47):
You're excited there just to go.
Speaker 8 (16:49):
Lee is going to have a great time.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Social support.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Lee's got to replace you know who? He wants to go.
Seed just gotta find a new niche.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
You know that is crue.
Speaker 8 (17:05):
Yeah, I'm gonna show Sam the Metro. He's never gone
on the La Metro before. We can't wait to get shived.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, it's it's such an unnecessary form of transportation. Lee,
like you just you love adding an element to something
that drop us off kind of close, doesn't it?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (17:21):
You looked up the route? Yes?
Speaker 8 (17:23):
And yes I do like a little element of danger.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Have you seen who rides the Metro?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
I see on the news who rides the met Metro
and hobos?
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Have you ever actually, by the way, like looked up
any directions that Lee's a part of.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
Because Lee is not very good navigating. I don't know, don't.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Know why you say this.
Speaker 8 (17:45):
They got us around Dublin.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Just fine, No, No, that's not true that.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I found all the speakeasies. I just go, I just
keep going downstairs.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Well, no, you smell them.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, that's what Lee does.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
You smells Okay, Lebar, I'm glad you brought that up
because Lee, because I thought it was a one time
thing in Ireland. He did it in South Carolina where
we were walking down the main street and Lee's like,
you know, my scent is taking me here, Like he
literally lifts his nose in the air and he smells
for what the hotspot is?
Speaker 5 (18:17):
Am I lying?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (18:19):
No, Yeah, that's that's really what he does. Yeah, like
my scent is bringing me to here. Remember remember Brady,
we walked down some alley and it looked like it
was a brothel in Dublin. And Lee's like, I'm feeling
I'm sensing this, and you and I are looking at
each other like, Lee, you've never been here, you have
no idea where we're going. And that's their own moonshine
(18:42):
here I can smile.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't recall any of this. I just remember Lee
being all four directions. His sense of smell may be fine,
but he was not good with directions.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, well listen, uh, just just find if you can
find your way out of that concert. League, You're doing good.
Just get away from that crummy band. As soon as
the played at some bowling alley.
Speaker 7 (19:01):
Sam Wolmartime, how does it go?
Speaker 5 (19:03):
No?
Speaker 8 (19:03):
No, no, once was enough on Sam, We forget. People
are gonna turn off the radio.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Here's a problem is.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
You can't you can't say you love a band if
you're like embarrassed even sing the lyrics.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I sang it earlier.
Speaker 8 (19:15):
Wasn't that good enough?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, come on one more time though, it was really good.
Thank you, Come on, Sam, and that'll do it.
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we like to call Quinn's wins.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
And it's back.
Speaker 7 (19:56):
Come on, that's right.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
And we started off in college station as the number
eleven Alabama Crimson Tide Head to College says take on
the Aggies. Now, this line earlier in the week was
Bama giving Texas and m two and a half. It's
now down to one point. That might concern some people,
but not me. I'm laying the point with Bama hare
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because all right, don't look now, Bama was ripped off
a couple double digit wins reversus a couple of SEC opponents.
The past couple of weeks, they found their rhythm within
the offense, running the football Jalen Neuro their quarterback as
part of that, but McClellan and Roydale Williams in the backfield,
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and the Bama defense has been lights out since they're
lost to Texas.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
They've only given up on average.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Two hundred and seventy yards total yards per game and
three total touchdowns.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Now and m's missing the starting quarterback, Connor Wigman.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
But Max Johnson, Yes, that's the son of Brad Johnson,
the Super Bowl winning quarterback.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
He's played well in.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
A spot, dude in his absence five touchdowns, won only
one interception, and look, I think the time their biggest
key is they're going to have to slow down the
dynamic playmaker that is wide receiver Evan Stewart for text
and m who's got a TD catch at each of
the last two games, a sixth in the conference, and
receiving yards. The matchup will ultimately be won and lost
on the line of scrimmage for Texas AM's defensive front
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that's very talented and very good versus the rushing attack
of Bama.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
But I think Bama goes in.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
They figure this thing out, they get another win in
a tough environment. So lay the point with Bama and
also the Unders the best play. Next up, the Wildcats
head to Athens, Georgia, to take on the Bulldogs. Kentucky
coming off their big win over Florida and now vaults
them into the top twenty five and number twenty.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
George is still the number one team in the country.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
And this game is sitting on a spread of fourteen
and a half points. That's a lot and especially considering
this is not You're the same Georgia defense we saw
the past two years, all right. They're giving up two
hundred and nineteen yards on the ground and two touchdowns
to Auburn last week, and they're second to last and
the SEC with sacks only eight on the year. They're
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not getting as much pressure, they're not stopping opponents quite
as much. And if you watch college football, you'll know
the name Ray Davis, the running back for Kentucky. You
had a huge game last week, two hundred and eighty
yards on the ground, three touchdowns. He's leading the SEC
and yards from scrimmage. And then Devin Lear, the transferred
quarterback for Kentucky. He has turned the football over a
little bit this season, but he gives them the ability
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to stretch the field vertibly. So this is a game
where we've seen George in some close contests.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
I think this is another one.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Kentucky keeps it within the fourteen and a half points,
you take those points.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Next up, Notre Dame heads to Louisville, that.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Top twenty five matchup between these two teams to take
on an undefeated Louisville team that's really been highlighted by
their rushing attack. Jordanette, running running back for them, has
been a.
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Phenomenal this year.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Jack Plumber, the transfer quarterback that came from Purdue with
Jeff Brohm down to Louisville, has been doing a good
job this season eleven touchdowns, six interceptions. But this is
gonna be a tough matchup for the Notre Dame fighting Irish.
This is back to back weeks now, after Ohio State
last week, beating Duke on the road, now going on
the road again in primetime to beat Louisville, and I
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think Louisville's up for the task. So this is gonna
be a close one. Notre Dame wins. But you take
the six and a half points here in Louisville, and
then finally the Red River shootout, we've got Oklahoma and Texas.
They're the Dallas Fairgrounds. This line's changed a little bit
this week. Texas was giving six points. This line's now
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down to five in a lot of books. And look,
this has been gonna be billed as two high powered
offensive attacks with Quinn Viewers for Texas Dylan Gabriel for Oklahoma.
But the truth of the matter is these are the
top two defense in the Big Twelve right now. So
it's going to be more of a battle in the
trenches in my opinion, and it's really going to come
down to this, can Oklahoma's defense stop Jonathan Brooks for Texas,
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who is quietly putting together one of the best seasons
in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
He leads the.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Conference in rushing yards five rushing touchdowns this season as well,
and ut is averaging forty yards or more on the
ground when they faced against a stiffer competition, He's been
able to average that more so than Oklahoma. So I
think it actually comes down to the running game. If
Texas can still remain balanced in the rushing attack. Yours
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will make enough big plays to examer Worthy and ad Mitchell,
and I think Texas covers the number here, so you
lay the five points here with Texas.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
Bingo, Bengo.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Now what did you have we been? Have we kept
track of your results over the past couple of weeks?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
No, unless Lee has. But I go back and look
through it and come up with the tally for you.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you had to guess on the right side of things.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, yeah, no, I mean some of these are very
similar to another job because I have to pick a
bunch for another job.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
So that has been over five hundred this year.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
And by the way, that Notre Dame covering against Duke
never in doubt last week, that.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Was never in dow.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
This won't be tough. I'll tell you much this much.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Jeff brom I as a coach, I respect a tome
from talking with him. You know, former quarterback, but Jahar
John Jordan, their running back. He lead the ACC in Russia.
He's he's gonna be a tough out. Notre Name struggle
to stop the rushing attack last week with with Duke
and Riley Leonard their quarterback as part of it, and
they runt, a lot of trick plays, Like I'm telling you,
(25:42):
Louis of what at some point will try a flee
flicker Like that's just Jeff Brom He always he always
has a flee flicker, some sort of gadget, a trick
play in his back pocket that he breaks out for
big moments.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
So it's gonna be a tough for you. Last week
for me, I was watching then, I was like, under
Q is stressed.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
It was awesome. That was a great game, great finish.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It was a great game, good environment.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
It wasn't stressful, and I don't I don't stress over
any of this stuff. I obviously pull for those guys,
you know, your root for him. But the uh looked
at Sam Harmon made a very heavy play, you know,
taking off running the wide receiver group's been banged up.
They should be healthier for this week's matchup. But uh,
you know, estimate breaking through. You know everyone's plan was
(26:27):
to kick a field goal, and he's like, nope, I'm
calling game right now.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
I'm I'm gonna take this thing into the end zone.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, Marcus Freeman looked pretty relieved at the end of
that thing. That's a pretty impressive bounce back win too,
especially coming off heartbreak the week before, and then Penn
State's on a buy this week. There's a bunch of
teams that are on buys this week. What was What
did you do in college on the bye week? Like,
do you guys just throw a rager kager on the
Saturday that you're not playing a game, or you just
(26:55):
get together watch college football Day?
Speaker 5 (26:57):
What's that far?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
What do you do? Man? What used to do well?
Speaker 6 (27:01):
I only had two two two times that were matter
because freshman year, I ain't really do anything sophomore in
junior year, we used to go to I had a
whole lot of teammates from Virginia, so this is like
homecoming time of the year. So we would go to
like Virginia I want to say Virginia Union, something like that,
(27:24):
Virginia Union or Virginia State, so is an HBCU. We
used to go to their their homecomings. R Yeah, and
we get like one room and it'd be like six
seven of us.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
So imagine that sleep that sleep set up.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Would you get like a cooler of beers? Would you
go like rolling rock cans just so you could fit
more in the cooler?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
You go bottles. What do we think?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
No, you get we weren't drinking. We weren't drinking.
Speaker 6 (27:55):
We got some good, good home some some southern home
looking you know that. You know what became my favorite
was this strawberry. It was like a strawberry type of
like sponge cake or something like that. It was kind
of maybe strawberry pound cake.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Maybe it was shortcake.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
It wasn't strawberry shortcake. It's like a pound cake, but
it was strawberry. It was freaking amazing whatever it was.
That was kind of when I got introduced to it.
But yeah, it's like fried chicken, man fried chicken.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
When you went down, you don't have one cocktail.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I don't recall drinking, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like using somebody's fake ID you go to a liquor store,
buy some mad Dog twenty twenty port.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like all right, or bye week, it's probably a little
more what you're thinking of. They're jonas. Early on, I didn't.
I would just go back home. But I remember my
twenty first birthday fell on the bye week my junior year,
and so we went out, had had a good time.
Like most people gone celebrate their twenty first birthday, I
(29:05):
had way too many shots did not end well for me.
I think I was playing dude, where's my car? Like
the next day, so I try to figure out like
where someone had left it at one point. But it
was I mean, honestly, like the problem with that was
there was an incident that ensued from us all being
out at that bar. I was not a porter or
(29:26):
aware of it, but that was the end of our
fun going out that year, so it was house parties
from that moving forward.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Well, yeah, if you're one of those what Lee, Lee,
you got any comments on his behavior?
Speaker 5 (29:42):
I want to know what happened. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think a couple of guys on our team had
like got into it with some local guys there and
it ended up being like they almost something that the
local guys then tried to like jump them when the
bar had closed up, I guess, and uh, that didn't
work out for the for the local guys there.
Speaker 7 (30:04):
But the bottom line is like word got back.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
You know, a couple of guys were punished and then
the entire team was told like we could not go
out damn. So basically we just had to resort to
house parties.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Listen, don't don't step to Jessamarga. That's what happens.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
Yeah, you can go name names. It definitely wasn't Jeff.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
So just trying to figure this out, all right, So
there it is.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
We were just we were trying to talk to girls.
That was what we did on our bot. We tried
to talk to girls. I was looking for like a
Kas Delta's, you know, Sigmas or not Sigmas, Zetas Zaida's. Yeah, no,
not Sigmas, Paul Higa, you know, Kappa Sweethearts, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
We were we was on the yard man, you know,
but nobody knew who we work. Don't know that? Yeah, yeah,
I know, y'all don't it's cultural.
Speaker 7 (31:04):
Well, we don't have a.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Greek system that are dam y'all don't.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
No, that's part of the like one of the biggest differences.
So a lot of the like eighty percent of the
student population stays in the dorms, so there's a lot
more what they call dorm pride. So kind of where
you like, where you stayed is like where you're was,
like was there like your hood, was your frat or
your sore damn right?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Oh yeah, yep, that's interesting. Yeah, joy me some Sores
shouts out to all of.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Y'all the South Bend projects.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Man, I'm married one, I'm married a Delta. Yeah, did you?
I did?
Speaker 5 (31:41):
I did it damn right.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
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Speaker 3 (31:59):
And I'm just madden.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
We're going to be around to talk a little bit
about managerial decisions and what may have a credited to
Doug got maybe in the nineteen eighties.
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We're going to dive into what goes on in the
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Speaker 2 (32:24):
We were waiting to see whether or not Jim Mersey's
buddy Jonathan Taylor was going to show back up in
Indianapolis ready to go, and apparently that is the case.
Jonathan Taylor is back. He was back at practice. He
actually spoke with the media yesterday not only about his
health but also about his commitment and about the future.
Speaker 11 (32:44):
It feels really good to finally be healthy. I mean,
number one, the whole time, the main goal was to
be healthy throughout.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
This whole time.
Speaker 11 (32:50):
Been a lot of things said than done, but at
the end of the day, the number one overall goal
for everybody was for me to get healthy. I don't
think it matters on if I'm say I'm committed or not,
because I'm here. I mean, if somebody wasn't committed, they
wouldn't be here. I'm here right now, and my number
one thing is to take care of my teammates. A
lot of people worry about what I want. What I
want doesn't matter what necessarily I want. What matters is
(33:14):
what this team needs, what this team wants, what this
city wants.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
So there's JT back in Indianapolis, possibly playing this weekend,
and all of a sudden, a pivotal matchup in the
South against Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (33:26):
Yes, I mean he sounds like he's playing.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
Then, huh, seems like it.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So, I mean, it's just it's odd it's taken such
a I guess a turn. And I know, you know,
supposedly here saying Jonathan Taylor have spoken, so maybe they
buried the hatchet. I have no idea, but the look
the Colts could use them, There's there's no doubt Zach
Moss has been good in his place, but like they
(33:50):
are in a spot where I don't know, I look
at him. I think anyone could win this division right
now if it does feel that wide open, if Anthony
Richard Richard can stay healthy and with how they've looked
so far offensively, like, I give them every shot in
that division, and it's just it's and if he's a
part of that team and he could be the game
breaker he's kind of been for them. Yeah, like you said,
(34:12):
they've a good shot as anyone else. So it look
the league's better when good players like Jonathan Taylor are playing.
So I'm hoping this gets cleared up, either that he
plays this season or he gets somewhere else for his plan.
Even if he's just kind of saying all the right
things right now, but regardless, it's gonna be good.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
See him back on the field. This is a competitive
Colts team. I didn't think they would be as competitive
as they are, and their defense look good and they
look to have what they need out of Richardson at
the quarterback position. As you mentioned, Q, major part is
if he could stay on the field and be healthy
(34:49):
for them. But if I'm Jonathan Taylor, this is something.
This is an opportunity for him to build build value,
tinue to build value. Now what that value ends up being,
I think you cross that bridge once you get there.
And I think he said that as much as in
terms of what he wants, like it doesn't matter at
(35:11):
this moment. You know, what matters is and a lot
of guys, a guy like Jonathan Taylor, I don't think
that's just tongue in cheek. I think he really means
it when he says it's about him caring for for
his teammates, like him being there for his teammates.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I think he truly believes that. You know, I think
a lot.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Of times you can you can put aside the personal
motivations and the personal goals, you know, even even financially,
and put those things aside and and do what you
need to do as a teammate and if he's able
to come in and be the positive contributor that I'm
sure everybody is anticipating him to be. If he is healthy,
(35:54):
he does make this a better team. And if he
makes it a better team and a lot of the
offense you know, can run through him. It takes pressure
off of a young quarterback and probably gives them a
lot of confidence in terms of what they can create
balance wise on offense. And it does seem like a
doable task to be able to win their division. I
(36:17):
think it's very plausible to think that the Colts could
play out a level you know where we're sitting there.
Maybe I don't know, maybe if it's as far as
saying a head scratcher that they're as good as they are,
but they could turn out to be a pretty impressive
team moving forward as we get deeper into the season.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Well, interesting, Jack Jacksonville has been disappointing. The Jaguars have
not been the team I think a lot of people
thought they've been. And they've got Buffalo this weekend and
they're an underdog in London like so, yeah, the division's
wide open.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
And I also think to your point, I agree.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I think I buy what he said, Like, I don't
think that's just him blowing smoke and saying whatever's nice
to to play. Play this whole thing out and be like, Okay,
well I'll play nice. Just get me out of here
by the trade deadline later this month. But it just
it goes back to what we talked about in the
off season. Why would you want to screw this up
(37:14):
with a guy like that who would be so great
for the culture you're trying to change there with a
new regime and a new quarterback. Why would you wouldn't
you want more of those guys in the building. Everybody
loves the guy and he's he's doing it the right way.
He's saying all the all the right things and he
means all of it. And unless his body is just
(37:35):
completely shelled and he and he's nowhere close to the play, Yeah, Like,
why would you want to screw that up with Jonathan Taylor?
That's the part that I've never understood with Jim Mersey's
approach of this whole thing.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
It's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
I've never really understood a lot of the things Jim
Mersey does. But you know, I mean, I'm not sure
you guys feel about him, But he seems to interesting things.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
He is fun, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
I mean, he's the owner, has.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Lost, he's lost in an AFC championship game, and he's
put up a banner for AFC finalists.
Speaker 7 (38:09):
So there's that. You won't find that anywhere else in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Well, he's showing off for all the Combine people, the
people that show up every year, like, hey, look what
we got here.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Look at this news.
Speaker 7 (38:18):
That's like one of those banners. When you look up
you see You're like, huh, that's different. I don't see
that anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I think the Sacramento Kings put a Summer league banner
up in their building.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
Yeah, but did they win a summer league championship?
Speaker 5 (38:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Okay, He's like saying, like, hey, finalist. I mean I
remember looking at thinking myself, oh so oh, they're celebrating
the fact they got there. All right, all right, that's uh,
Like I'm all for positivity, all right, good vibes, positive vibes,
let's go. But like that no one else has done
(38:53):
in the NFL. They're they're on an island on that one.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, well listen, you know, you belly up to the bar.
He starts through Amazon, you see something you could buy,
and you go and custom and customize a little banner
and put this up as just a participant. Why why
not fire it up there? You know, raise that bad boy?
Speaker 5 (39:11):
Now?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Did they have a big ceremony for it? Like who
came out and raised the banner? Would it be like
a Jeff Saturday?
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Or like a good point?
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Actually?
Speaker 4 (39:19):
I wonder too if you make a big deal about
it or if you just have, like go to a
couple of guys like, hey, look, I know there's only
two of you, but how we hung those other banners
up there? Because I got one. I want to hang
in there. I don't really want anyone to know. I
just want them to kind of come in and like
see it. He's like, but I want to make a
big deal about it, but I want to also to
be hanging up there. So you two guys go over
(39:42):
about eleven o'clock. Right, no one should be in the building,
no one should be in local soil. You climb up there,
and you hang that AFC finalist flag. Okay, and look,
if anything happens, all right, well it's on you.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
All right.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
If you don't come back, it's on you. I need
that banner up there.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Okay, he imagine like you just like they rolled out,
it's a big presentation, and he just says, hey, we
got a couple of legendary Colts players, and outwalk Curtis
Painter and Ken Dilger and they just raised that bad
boy up to the top.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
Everybody.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
So you're going the entire different direction here. Yeah, I'm
saying the exact opposite of it.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
I think if you're going to do this, there's got
to be pageantry, there's got to be a lot going on.
Speaker 7 (40:23):
It's already done.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
That's the problem is, like it's up there and you
never heard about it.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
It could have been just you're painting an unrealistic scenario,
but it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Could have been just for employees, like just for employees
of the team, like a special who knows, but hey,
Jonathan Taylor's back, So congratulations in the Indianapolis Colts to
get another weapon. And then we get to see how
this plays out here because again, the trade deadline is
later this month, so who knows. Maybe it's not for
long there, but seems.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
Like he's going to be there for a little while.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. You know, we are going to
advocation mist coming up here shortly. But one story that
came out yesterday, not long before the game between the
Bears and the Commanders, was the passing of the Great
Dick Buckis eighty years old, passed away at his home
in Malibu. Just a legend on and off the field.
(41:15):
You hear nothing but good things about it. He's also
a pretty funny follow on Twitter. He would always be
a smartass, you know, even up to very recently when
he would go to games or whether it be an
Illinois game or watching the Bears play, he always had
that sense of humor. I mean, for God's sakes, they
named an award after him, Like some legendary players have
won the Butkus Award, guys like Chris Claiborne, Andy Katzen, Moyer,
(41:39):
E J. Henderson, I mean, Derek Johnson, Patrick Willis, Rolando
mcl von Miller, Like, am I missing anybody? Mantai Tao?
Am I missing anybody that won that award? Rokwan Smith,
Devin White, I.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Mean, Brian Bosworth, Oh God, Albert.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
Yeah, I think we got it pretty much covered, Brady.
Is there anybody else from anybody?
Speaker 4 (42:01):
I mean, I think it's incredible that he finished what
like sixth and I think third in back to back
years in the Heisman. I mean it's tough to do
that as a defensive player. You know, he's I mean,
he was.
Speaker 7 (42:14):
A hell of a college player. Obviously a Hall of famer.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
I mean, how many guys are a college Hall of
famers and professional hall of famers.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
He's in rarefied air and he you know, that was
back during the glory day. It's not about the Bears
and their and their win like that was back during
the glory days of the Bears when he was there obviously,
and what he was able to accomplish. So tough loss, man,
it always is when you when you see like an
all time great, but a guy who, as you pointed out,
(42:41):
you know, had a big personality too.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
Yeah he was. He was awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
And I am getting some other reports here all LaVar,
you won the Budkus Award as well too in nineteen
ninety nine.
Speaker 5 (42:51):
How about that.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I am a book this award winner.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
It's awesome. It's gotta be cool.
Speaker 6 (42:57):
It's quite an honor, and it's it's it's not quite
an honor now because of him his passing. But I
mean it's quite an honor because you know all the
things that you heard Q say. I mean, he's he's
a stud you know, and he was the gold standard
and still continues to be the gold standard. I mean,
(43:17):
as far removed as people may be from ever having
seen him play, I think the the way he played
the game has vibrated through through time.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
It's lasted the test of time.
Speaker 6 (43:32):
He's never become an irrelevant figure, you know, to what
football represents. I mean, if you were to have a
picture of you know, what tough heart knows football looks like,
and it were to be personified in a player, there'd
be a couple of players that would come to mind,
and one of the first names that would always be
(43:54):
mentioned in those sentences would be Dick Buckets. So for me,
I know, as as a former award winner and someone
who still represents you know, that award and what it
what it represents, I felt like I spoke for us
all when I put my message out that you know,
will continue to carry on his legacy. Every one of
(44:16):
us that that you know wins that trophy and represents
what what he has ultimately represented.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
I mean, it's a.
Speaker 6 (44:24):
It's you know, I felt a very very large amount
of pride, you know, being able to to say what
my relation, uh to to Dick was. And and I
called him uncle uncle, you know, uncle Dick. But meeting
him was you know, there were two guys. I'm not
a I'm not a starstruck type of guy, like nothing
(44:47):
really moves me. Like I met Michael Jordan and it
was like, oh, it's cool I met Michael Jordan, or
met Mike Tyson, Like met Mike Tyson, Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I met some some pretty famous people. I was like,
I met some famous people.
Speaker 6 (44:58):
But when I met Lawrence Taylor for the first time,
it was like my body left my you know, my
spirit left my body for a second, Like it's like, whoa,
is that really Lawrence Taylor walking towards me right now?
It was unexpected when I met him, and I had
an outer body experience just because of how big of
a fan I am of Lawrence Taylor. But the other
(45:21):
one was when I went to the awards banquet for
the Buckets and met him for the first time, and
it just it was the same type of it was
just a very surreal moment in time, and I was
able to meet him a few more times after that,
but the first time was just one of the most
(45:43):
earth moving experiences for me, and it just made me
feel like I mattered and it made me feel like
I belonged and that all the hard work had paid off,
and you know, everything that you did leading up to that,
just man, you get a moment where you get to
shake his hand and he's looking at you like you're
(46:05):
you're the best of me. You know, it's like I
was the greatest to ever do it at the college level.
You know, I'm one of the greatest to ever do
it at the pro level, and I'm representing that award
like he's talking to me, like he's proud of me,
and you know, he set that standard. He set a
standard where actually, like I said, it stood the test
of time, where I think a lot of people, even
(46:27):
if you know, the younger versions, the younger generations of guys,
don't really know you know, by seeing it.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
I think his name still is one of those names.
You know, there are a few names, you know, Lawrence
on the defense side of the
Speaker 6 (46:43):
Ball, especially at the linebacker position, there's a few names
that jump out at you, you know, and Dick Buckets
is on that short list of guys and he definitely
will be missed, but his presence will always be felt
because there's so many of us that will always sing
his p raises and talk about what he represented as
a person, but you know also what he represented as
(47:05):
a player as well well, said
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