October 11, 2023 • 38 mins
Josh McDaniel continues to get heat for going against analytics, despite a win vs Green Bay. The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to talk USC vs Notre Dame, Dodgers and more! Plus, the weekly edition of The BQ News.
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So it is a Wednesday, the Petros Papadaka is going
to stop by. I was going to ask you, Brady,
with it being Notre Dame USC week, did things get
a little bit testy between you and Petros or between
you and Matt Lionert.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Matt and I have not spoken the entire week thus far.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Petros and I, though we were always on it actually
was texting I think two days ago. Yeah, so very
very different relationship with Petros as when I compared to
what I have with Matt.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So light Lionard still gets a little fired up for
these games.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Well yeah, it goes both ways.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll just you know, curious, I go both.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
For you, I meaning like neither of us are talking
right now. Yeah, yeah, that's how it is. Neither here
it is man, it's rivalry week. This is how it goes.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yep as usc a Notre Dame or Ravalie. Tell you
didn't toush push.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Come from that game Bush Push Bush Push yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey, by the way, I think I had I'm almost
positive I had money on Notre Dame in that game.
I'm almost positive.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Unfortunately I didn't get to win. Will you guys?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Were you four point underdogs?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
M I can't remember something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Lee, Can you look up what the point spread was?
I can remember watching that and being bummed because I
was actually considering Notre Dame money line. But I bet
if you could look up the points spread from that game,
almost positive was like four that That was the That
was the betting line from the the Bush Push game,
the illegal play that for some reason us he was
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given a a win on disgusting if you asked me,
flat out robbery in South Bend. But there's that, Well,
let's let's try. Do we have that lead? Okay, we
are we are efforting the points spread on that, because
that's you know, the important stuff, or a point spread
from what eighteen years ago? That's yeah, that's the good
stuff here. So I mean, listen, it's been a doozy.
(03:08):
We broke down frozen heads and conspiracies last hour, so
make sure you check out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's true, You're we are almost had your quota for
the Walt Disney frozen head story or topic of discussion
for the year.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Listen, it's a bit pertinent to the conversation. Aliens also
did hit Aliens. Yeah, so we have talked about just
coaches and some questionable decisions. I'm sure Petros is going
to have some thoughts on, you know, Jedfish and you know,
what was happening with Lincoln Riley and the USC Arizona game.
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And we've talked about just some of the the reasons
behind why coaches do certain things and what's really going
on there. And one of the stories that came out
of Monday Night Football was Josh McDaniels in a win
is still being questioned because there was a point in
that game where there was a more than too late.
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The Raiders had a seventeen thirteen lead, and instead of
going for it up for with you know, the Packers
needing a touchdown to win the game. Anyways, Josh McDaniels
elected to kick a fifty two yard field goal. Daniel
Carlson hit it off the upright and then Josh McDaniels
got bailed out because Jordan Love threw the pick in
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the end zone and the Raiders still won the game.
What's happening there because the conversations are getting louder about
Josh McDaniels. We talked about, you know, they're playing the
Patriots this week, and there's conversations about Belichick and Bill
O'Brien and Mac Jones, but there are some conversations about
Josh McDaniels, and it feels like the Raiders are in
no man's land. Devontae Adams has already spoken and said,
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this is not what I expected it to be, not
what I signed up for. And then you've got the
coach making questionable decisions, ultimately getting bailed out by a
picks or an interception in the end zone and a
pick by Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Look, in today's world of analytics and the access that
fans and people at home have to various stats and data,
they can look at all the decisions of a head
coach and it's it's put on a plate and serve
to all. So earlier in this season, when Josh McDaniels,
who I believe was down what eight was that week
two and decided to kick a fueld goal as opposed
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as opposed to going forward on fourth down that drew
quite the head scratching reaction, especially since I don't believe
we've had a coach make that decision in this since
the start of the millennium, or maybe since two thousand
and three.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then you go to this decision, granted, you're up
seventeen to thirteen, and so you're thinking, all right, kick
the field goal, make them have to score a touchdown
to take it into overtime. But even then, the thought
process behind it is you go for it on fourth
and two because if you get it, the game's over.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You can run out the clock.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Green Bay never gets a chance to touch the football,
and the counter is, look, even if you hit the
field goal, you're still giving Green Bay the football back.
They still not only have a chance to score a
touchdown and kick a field goal to go into overtime,
but technically they could just score a touchdown, go for too,
and win the game right there. So what's become a
talking point for a lot of fans and folks out
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there is win probability, and a lot of people are
going to track late game decisions by head coaches based
on how those numbers are crunched and the decisions they
make in those final moments, and this was one where
when you combine that with his decision earlier the season
week two to kick the field goal, then you're looking
at saying yourself like, is he being too conservative? Is
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he really putting his team in the best position to win?
I mean, had green Bay instead scored a touchdown there,
And I know we're talking about hindsight and that's not
the reality of what happened, but it very easily could have.
Green Bay was taking shots at the end zone at
the end for a chance to win. So I think
there's a lot of questions right now around the decision
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making of Josh McDaniels. There's players who are obviously seeing this,
reading this, questioning it as well, and and again not
off to the start they want. However, it helps when
you get a win on Monday Night football.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I don't they did win the game.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
I think there have been a lot of questionable actions
on the behalf of coaches and situational football and what
you do, what's the what's by the book, what's right?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know, probabilities and statistics and all those things. Listen.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I don't I don't know if it was right. I
don't know if it was wrong, I just know they won.
That's that's that's what I do know. But I don't
think that that takes takes McDaniel off of the hot
seat in terms of where the team is. You know
you one of y'all mentioned Davante saying this isn't what
I signed up for. Well, I don't really know what
he signed up for other than the play with Carr,
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because I you know, I don't think anybody knew if
they were going to be any better than what they
have been in in years prior to with with McDaniel
or anybody else kind of sort of at for what
that's worth at the coaching position. So you know, it's
it's a topic for conversation, I guess, But I mean,
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in the grand scheme of things, what what to me?
I guess The question I would ask you guys for
me that I would like to know is does that
does the decision on the field goal have any bearing
on on how I guess Josh McDaniel is viewed moving
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forward as a whole.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
As a coach because I think so, because there's the pattern,
and Brady pointed it out the game against the Steelers, like,
why are you kicking a field goal there, if you're
down eight and you need to score a touchdown and
get a two to I mean, what's the plan there?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Wouldn't you guys as players, be like, what the hell
are we doing? Yes, I mean I don't know that
as many players. I mean, I know quarterbacks are more
in tune with like the fourth and two sort of scenario,
because when we're out there on offense, you're thinking yourself,
all right, this is a scenario. We go for it,
like we know the data, we know what I chart looks.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
At, and you're running the ball well.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right, and by the way, you have one of the
best short yardage backs. Granted you know at that point,
I think Jacob's had what sixty five seventy yards something
like that, So you'd think, like, okay, we can get
two yards. Like what's always been the kryptonite of Green
Bay they can't stop the run. And so in a
crucial moment like that, why not try to against the
team that struggle to stop the run this season? And
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you've got one of the better short yardage backs than
Josh Jacobs. So I think it's a fair you know
point to you know, analyze and break down and really
questionably because we've seen this now a number of times
this season, and look, it doesn't The only person that
matters to is ultimately Mark Davis, who you know still
is probably paying John Gruden and has a new head
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coach and Josh for Daniels, and you don't want to
move on from a head coach, you know, fast and
paying two guys, telling me three guys while you go
look for the next one to come in there, like
that's that's not the position that you want to be in.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So it's it's a it's a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right now because it's so early in the season, but
the Raiders got to figure some things out because you know,
clearly there seems like there's players who are just scrundled,
and you know, so far, there's probably some players questioning
what exactly they're doing and why they're doing.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It, Like do you think there's probably players in the
Chargers locker room every time Brandon Staley makes, you know,
whatever decision he makes that are looking around going why
why are we doing this? Like why why is this
the move? Why is this the plan here? And it's
it's cool that he trusts them in certain spots to
maybe go, but some of it just doesn't add up
and he gets bailed out. And the one that always
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comes to mind is the game at Cleveland last year
where they're at midfield and Brandon Staley decides to go
for it as opposed to punting the ball away and
making Jacoby Brissett, who struggled all game to go the
length of the field. He goes for it. They get
stopped and the only reason the Chargers will games because
Caide York missed like a fifty plus yard field goal.
Like that sort of gets lost in Well, they still
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won the game, Yeah, but that decision could have cost
you all sorts of you know, playoff implications and things
moving on down the season. I just wonder if Mark
Davis is sort of compiling all this and then when
the conversations come, it's like, what about this against Pittsburgh?
Why did you do this against Green Bay? One of
those ultimately resulted in a loss and the other one,
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you know, we won the game, but you were bailed
out with an interception.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Maybe let me ask you guys this one.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Let me ask you guys this on No, we're up
against the break, but who's who is this a bigger
game for this weekend between the Patriots and and the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
New England, you think so, I think I think New England.
Bigger game for New England, thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I think it's probably a bigger for New England. They
have a worse record.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And if Bill Belichick is the mentor, you know, Josh
McDaniels is the mentee, right And remember, like I remember
the narrative surrounding Josh McDaniels when he first got to Denver.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Remember they had that hot six.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And oh start, they wore those old school throwback uniforms
and they beat New England in Denver and that like that.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, I think they're on like.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The cover of Sports Illustrated after that win, so it
became like a thing. So I think it probably would
be bigger for New England only because they've looked so
bad to the past come up.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And also you remember the way they lost to the
Raiders last year with that lateral from Jacoby Myers on
the Champman Show. Champion like the fact, and that was
probably Belichick's call and his decision whatever that was, was
what sort of people gathered afterwards. So if Belichick, who
everyone's saying you know, he's finished, they're washed, they're done.
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If they go into Las Vegas again, Andy loses to
McDaniels again, or gets out coached or whatever you want
to call it. Man, there's a lot of x's on
that other sideline, whether it's Jimmy Garoppolo, who knows, if
Tom Brady's going to be there. Maybe it'll be at
a w NBA game on a Sunday again, who knows.
I mean, he's got a lot of options out there.
Josh McDaniels there, yeah, I just.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
They're the same.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I mean, the character was based off of real life
Bucky or you know, Mark Davis.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Is it a true story that movie?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
No? Oh, okay, I don't think so. This is JO good.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I just I think it's I think it's a bigger
game for the Raiders because I don't think again, based
off of the reasoning you guys give Bill Belichick doesn't
have he has job security and can can do the
rebuild so he can get through a loss against the Raiders,
I think the Raiders and Josh McDaniels have more at
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stake because there's less stability surrounding what's going on in
Las Vegas. Versus what's going on in New England. That
would be my opinion on it. But you know, I
kind of feel like this is a bigger game for
for Josh Daniels and for the Las Vegas reader.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
By the way, is it me or does Mark Davis
have a different friend with him in his suite every
single game?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Hey, let me tell you so. I saw him at
at the fight at the Earl Spence Bud Crawford fight.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I mean, we can make as much fun of him.
I can make as much fun of him as I'd
like to make him. He ain't he bro He ain't
playing around. I'll tell you that he ain't a game.
He is going all right in the winds column in life.
If you if you're measuring it out that way, if
it's being measured that way, he ain't losing.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I'm gonna tell you, yeah, he ain't. He ain't losing
that way.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He got his priorities in the right spot.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I mean, he definitely has a good picker in terms
of esthetically speaking, his eyes work very well.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, all right, well congratulations.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I mean, even though we talked bad about the bad,
but if there's some good there, I mean that good
is really good.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I have to tell you that, well, listeners need to make
that know.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
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All right, So we are going to have the BQ
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from now from the ti Raq dot Com studios. But
right now we must welcome in Petros Papadakis. He is
the co host of the Petros and Money yea Yeah,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to
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seven LA Sports he's a Fox college football analyst. You
can get him on Twitter or x or whatever they're
calling it these days at the old pe Petros. What's happening?
Good morning morning?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Hello, Hello, Hello, good morning. Happy Notre Dame week?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, wake up the echoes.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
How do you feel about that? Are you excited for
this game?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
I mean, the game's common, then they're over and then
there's a whole new set.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Of games to get excited about.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
And the game you were excited about the week before
seems like a distant memory and something that you've already
tread upon. But yes, it's a special game for the
SE people and the Notre Dame people. I don't know
if it's as big of a deal as it used
to be in college football. I mean, we're going to
see SE and UCLA playing in the cathedrals of the Midwest,
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you know, throughout the next few years and as long
as this Big ten thing lasts. So maybe it's not
as big of a deal as it used to be.
But I still like the game. I really like it
when it's out at Notre Dame in mid October because
of the history of the rivalry and Newt Rockney and
Howard Jones, the two coaches and how they set it up,
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and the odd years us he goes out there and
plays in October and watches the leaves change, and then
the even years Notre Dame comes out here and it's
Hollywood during Thanksgiving weekend in the crisp air of Southern California.
So yeah, it should be fun. I don't know what
USC is going to look like. They seem to be
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kind of struggling week in and week out to sort
of dominate games the way you would think they would
because they're supposed to be a title contender.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
But still a fun game.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I was going to ask you just even more about
the history as far as like what you've been told,
is it day back to when Newt Rockney's wife wanted
to take a trip out to southern California or make
that West Coach trip once a year.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Isn't that something that has to do with it?
Speaker 7 (18:01):
She had family in Los Angeles or the southern California area,
hence the every other year the holiday, and then Howard
Jones's wife loved the fall and missed I think she
had a Midwest background, or at least loved watching the
leaves change, which is something you know, you don't really
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have here in southern California with the seasons, and so
that's what's supposed to be seasonal in that way.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Because of the wives.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, pretty kind of neat when you think about the
history of how this all came together.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It was the two wives of the coaches.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
But well, yeah, you know you had to take trains.
You know, USC beat them. I forget what year, but
like you know, long before they would fly, and they
came in at Union Station in Los Angeles on the
top of Broadway, and there was like a ticker tape
parade for the team down Broadway, which is now if
you went down Broadway right now, I mean, it's it
feels like you're in a well a dystopian movie.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I was gonna follow up only by asking this, I mean,
just from watching the way s he was able to
pull out last week's game versus Arizona. You know, I
watched Kileb Williams and I think he should win a
second Heisman. And I watch him, I look at the
final play for example, to win it, and just go
that's not a good play call. If they don't have
Kileb Williams, SC loses do you see it kind of similar?
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And do you feel like he's got a legit shot
because he seems to be the best player in football,
the only thing really propping up SC from losing more games.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Yeah, they'd be six and sixteen right without Caleb Williams.
I mean, at least that's what it looks like watching
them play. And for those of us that know the
a lot of those players on the roster for Arizona,
because there's a lot of Southern California guys, I was
just dumbfounded watching Noah Fafita go up and down the field.
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He's their second string guy. I guess they have a
quarterback controversy now and people want him to start over
Jaden DeLaura.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But I mean, that's not a big kid.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
That's not necessarily that strong of a kid, and he
ain't and he ain't that fast, I mean, you know,
but yeah, he carved USC's defense up just like everybody
else has, and they ran a bunch of short side
pitches and just bullied SC around. Of course I wouldn't
have called it in overtime, but of course I would
have gone for two and overtime too, And I guess,
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like Jeff Fish, yeah, and LaVar he said he didn't
understand the rules after the game, that he didn't know
when he had to go for two, and gosh, maybe
you're running back. Coach doesn't know, but I hope your
head coach knows. But either way, it USC is just
more and more kind of middling as the weeks go
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on and on. Now there's still an undefeated team, and
Caleb Williams gives you a shot to win every game.
You're gonna think that they're gonna have more of an
offensive chance at Notre Dame in this game. Can Notre
Dame outscore them? Maybe not, But the rest of the
USC is going to be a freaking adventure. And if
they got through that unscathed, I mean, that's like a
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camel going through the eye of a needle, right, a
rich man being humble enough to get into the Kingdom
of heaven. I don't know if they can do it.
Just the way they play defense their identity. Now, Lincoln
Riley is trying to shame everybody for calling out the defense,
saying like, well, the media already had their mind made up,
as if it's some kind of political argument. It's like, no,
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your defense has been absolutely awful. You've been unable to
dominate games. Look, we're talking about USC as a title contender, right,
And if you're doing that, if you're supposed to be
doing that, if that's what the object is this season,
this product is not it. But I don't really know
what the end goal is. Maybe it's just another Heisman
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and that would be also pretty spectacular, But that's an
individual award, it's not a team award. And yeah, I
do think he's headed in that direction.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Petris Papadeg is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on Twitter at the Old p Petros. We
were talking about this yesterday. One of the things that was,
I mean, I think the main takeaway from that Arizona
USC game is that the Cowboy Caller is back. There
were multiple linebackers for Arizona Rock and a cowboy caller.
And you, being a big fan of the neck roll
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and the Cowboy Caller, does it warm your heart to
see that being brought back into the world of college football.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It was like a Brian Cox style one too, where
it's like the flat screen TV behind your head.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, so you don't you know.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
It really keeps you from getting I'm trying to read
do the LeVar wear a cowboy caller? Yeah, that's right,
you made it pretty famous. I mean that was I
wore one in my sophomore year in high school and
felt pretty good about it. But you know, we have
Eric Dickerson on the show every week because of a
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TV deal or car dealership deal or something.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Yeah, he wore the toilet seat nec roll. Then what
you did, Eric Dickerson is amazing because you know, most
guys that wear every single piece of paraphernalia there is
available to a.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Football player can't move look like dorks too.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
And he had goggles, he had everything, Jerry curl Jerry Curle, goggles,
arm pads, elbow pads, headband band, neck roll, elbow pads,
arm pads, every finger taped twice at the joints, and
probably some kind of knee stuff or ankle stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And some kind of way.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Looked like the coolest, dopest football player ever build a player.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Nobody ever made it look cooler. Yeah, and if any
of us have, any of us and LaVar looked damn
good on the football field. And Brady, you look pretty
good too. I'm coming out of the bus with your
big horsehead. You know, do you guys look which one,
which one left? Which one let out of the mark four?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
There we go, but uh, it's really I don't. I
don't think there was a better guy who put the
outfit together in his own way than Eric Dickerson. And
that's why if you walk in to a local market
in southern California, you usually see a giant paper mache
Eric Dickerson with a Jerry curl and his old rams
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Uni selling Corona or something.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Okay, well there was a big stack of twelve vers.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
There's one guy put in that category, and it'd be
deon Primetime Sanders. Now, coach Sanders, I gotta ask, is
is this thing turning into? Is this thing turning into
a drama field US versus them type of thing? And
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if you know what I mean, take it a little
bit larger than just Colorado us, like, is it more
of a is this turning into a thing? Because it
got it's got a little ugly, maybe a little bit
drawn out with the whole shador Sanders, Yeah, showing his
watch and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Were you know what.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
It reminds me of the whole And we talked about
it over the summer, and look, Dion and his team
have proven a certain point. He built the team, his
son is a pretty good quarterback, a very good quarterback,
fun to watch, exciting team, all of those things, and
they beat you know, an Arizona State team that's been
struggling this year. Maybe they've been improving every week, but
(25:30):
they've been struggling, and they're gonna ramshackle their way through
the rest of the season, and I think they're gonna
be a lot of exciting games. It reminds me LeVar
of and we talked about the seven on seven nature
of Colorado football kind of over the summer when he
was building the team, and all the talking and all
the look at my watch and all this stuff. It
(25:53):
just reminds me of one on ones every day between
the receivers and the corners.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
It's like the whole team has become that perimeter type
of trash talking world, which is a big part of football.
It's a big part of football in all kinds of
different eras. Usually it does not penetrate into the into
the front seven or the box type of area, right
(26:19):
It Usually it's just a perimeter thing and everybody's always
talking about something and making money or whatever out there
and quoting rap lyrics and the rest of us are
living the life of saving private Ryan, you know, where
somebody gets their head blown off every two seconds.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's a it's.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
A weird kind of contrast, and it kind of feels
like that sort of mentality, a perimeter mentality. Dion's mentality
has kind of penetrated the whole program, and whether you
like it or not, Like you said, LeVar, I think
that any good team takes on the personality of their coach,
(26:59):
and he you know that that's what you're trying to
be as a head coach. You're trying to influence the
entire personality of the team, and certainly that's what's happening,
and he might be changing the entire personality of the school.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
For God's sakes.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
You might see in those hippie kids walk around with
giant gold medallions like Dione used to in the eighties.
Who knows how things are going to change in Bolder,
But I don't know how that will translate to the
rest of the season as they play through October and November,
where it gets harder and harder and harder. I don't
think it will be as big of a story as
the season ends. But I think it's just a product
(27:38):
of Dion's personality, and the head coach is the head coach,
and that's how the players are going to act. I
don't think anything egregious has happened. I think it's just
sort of par for the course when you have a
team that's coached by that guy and they've generated the
amount of attention that they've generated, and the Baby and
(27:58):
everybody else, the raw, getting everybody else running around big
newon kickoff, Big Baby Jesus. So, I mean it's uh,
it's look, it's been great for college football. It is
really uh ignited the early part of the season. And
I don't think anybody that works in college football, which
is a television business, is ungrateful for it.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Now, Petros, I did want to ask you before we
let you go, the panic bro the panic bros.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, you and you and Matt money Smith, how we
feeling here?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, let's pass that, you know.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
I mean, it's uh, it's hard, guys. It's hard to
pump it up and scream door or yo yo yo,
yo yo yo. You're and everybody and then you know,
wake up the echoes again, you know, uh, in the
parlance of this week, and uh, it's hard with the look.
We were out there on a Monday for pregame and
(28:54):
I'm not saying the Dodgers were loose during warm ups,
but Key k Hernandez was running around punching everybody in
the nuts.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And I was like, you know, where's the sense of.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Urgency at horse play?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
What was the puzzo salute he was doing with?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
He did a he did a D bump with Dino Ebel,
the third base coach, like you know how you do
a fist bump sometimes in the seventies that the girls
used to bump booties or hips like you know, uh
with the short jeans, you know, but they did it
with their with their genitals.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
And what do we calling it? The puzzo the deep bump?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I guess you would call it a D bump.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
And I was like, whoa, I mean, that's you know,
this is kind of a must win situation. But yeah,
Mookie Bets, you know, doesn't seem to be meeting the
moment this series, and neither does Freddie Freeman. And it
felt like that last year and what's it like to
win one hundred games and win the division every year
and feel great about it and then get your puzzo
(29:57):
blown off and the NLDS it's uh, let's just say
there was a lot of fights that broke out at
Dodger Stadium on Monday nights, scattered. There was one in
the bathroom with two guys like like it looked it
was pretty hilarious. Two hesher's going at it, you know.
But uh, it's uh, it's certainly concerning. And it feels
(30:18):
a lot like the Braves of the nineties. And that
stands to reason because the president of the Braves in
the nineties, Stan Kasten, is the president of the Dodgers
these days.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That's unfortunate. Well, you can get them on Twitter at
the old p He is the cost of the Petros
money show on the Blowtorch.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You know what's coming on in LA after you guys?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
What's that scam? Oh yeah, Tim Kates.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
They cover up the Dan Patrick in l A. On
the terrestrial radio. It's Tim Kates and Steve Sachs scam
Sacks and Kate's in the am loved Tim Kate. Wow,
it's a great show. But you know what, a lot
of lamentation and weeping and moaning and gnashing of teeth
with the callers.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I just don't understand why or not look up these are.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Listen, listen to some calls one more time.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Competing.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
All right, Pete, we're gonna do it again next week,
and who knows, maybe the Dodgers will still be alive
or you know, probably not.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
But Brady gonna be at uh in South Bend, hiding
hiding in the turf, Come on, hiding in the turf. Yeah,
ready to pop up and sock Caleb Williams in the
head Carroll style.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
No, but we don't we know, you know, you know
we we have to grow out the turf too. You
could do it the grass old days.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
We brought that turf blown out many in thee and
now we complain about the rubber turf, and then we
complain about the next thing.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, well sorry, yeah, petros always fun and let's
do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Tell the lizard, I'll say it. What's up man lizards doing?
All right? What's going? She's good?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
The big uh she had a big piece of her back,
you know, come off the molting, So I think she's
you know, she's been a little out of it the
last couple of weeks, because you know, they get bigger
and they're tired when their skin comes off.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Have you grown more fond of the lizard? Yes, yeah, yeah,
I feel like it was a burden at first. Now
it feels like it's part of the.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
I took the lizard up into the sun the other
day and we were sitting by the pool, and the
lizard just went full sellout and jumped into the pool.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And lizards can swim, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
But I didn't think she could get out, so I
snatched her out of the pool.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Oh had you ever seen her swim before? No? So
you're kind of curious as like, you know.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Well, I mean it stands to reason, you know, But
because it got legs make their skin ashy a little bit. Yes, yeah,
I didn't know about that before I was in a
locker room with a lot of black people.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Ashy is is a word for the culture.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
You were unaware of that, Petress.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
At what age did you learn that my sixty percent
Asian high school team did not have.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Different issues there?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Totally different?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
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Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well, we're gonna start off back in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We talked about Connor Bodard and his debut for the
Chicago Blackhawks last.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Night, taken on the Penguins.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But there's just a story that keeps on going, and
that is the disdain for offensive coordinator Matt Canada with
the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, at the PPG.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Paints Arena where the Penguins were opening up their season
last night, there began a fire Canada chant that broke
out even at the hockey game. Even though the Steelers
are now three and two and actually at top of
the AFC North given their tiebreaker with Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I can't imagine there's one Steelers fan that looks back
on Sundays. Like my nephew is a diehard Steelers fan
and I saw him and said for that game on Sunday,
and he was almost embarrassed at Pittsburgh won, just with
how bad they looked. Just the defense was great, but
it's it's becoming now a thing or like, I mean,
(35:58):
what is Tom's got to hear some of this. Matt
Canada's got to hear some of this around town, right,
Like people have got to be yelling at him or
honking their horn, Like it just feels like this is
now to the point to where some decisions are going
to have to be made pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Here.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Even if you're immune to it, you still see other
people who hear and the way they look and the
way they kind of whisper and the way they're like, well,
I wonder if he here, I wonder if he's going
to react.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
To it here he goes he's coming out here.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Any thoughts guys that you think Tom Brady's gonna come back,
well you should put those to bed because he said
recently on his Let's Go podcast with co host Jim
Gray that literally his parents and kids would kill him.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
He would not be around by night.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
So if there was any speculation whatsoever, which I don't
know that there has been much this year, but maybe
in the beginning when Aaron Rodgers went down. But the
reality is it sounds like he's in retirement and he's
done and he's moving off the next step in his life.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
He already did it once, you know, like he came back,
you know when everyone thought he was going to retire,
like just stay retired. And he's got all these other
every other day it seems like he's part owner in
a new business or something like that. He's got a
lot of other interests outside of gifts football.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
He wants to be a billionaire, you know, that's kind
of his next thing.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
He's trying to get so he just bought a six
million dollar yacht. Too good for hell? Did he? Yes?
He did?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Damn very nice, hey, Tom, can I get a rat?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And last, but not least, in today's news, kind of
a sad story, if you will, a one hundred and
four year old Chicago woman died on Monday, just days
after leaping out of an airplane and breaking the world
record for the oldest skydiver. That's Dorothy Hoffner. Last week
set the record for being the oldest in a thirteen
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five hundred foot tandem jump at the Skydive Chicago Airport
in Ottawa, Illinois. And unfortunately this past week has passed away,
so I couldn't want.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
To hurt her family.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
But still pretty remarkable setting a world record one hundred
and four Pretty cool man.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
At least she did something pretty interesting before she got
up out of here.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
By the way, they said that, you know, it was
just purely coincidental. She died in her sleep. You know,
it just happened to be days afterwards.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I mean, if she was hoping I've just died last sleep.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
If she was that close to going, you imagine if
that happened in.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Mid air, I would that would be fire.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh what do you mean, Why not just dying?
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Why are you in the air like, oh my gosh,
look at the world from here.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
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So it is a Wednesday, the Petros Papadaka is going
to stop by. I was going to ask you, Brady,
with it being Notre Dame USC week, did things get
a little bit testy between you and Petros or between
you and Matt Lionert.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Matt and I have not spoken the entire week thus far.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Petros and I, though we were always on it actually
was texting I think two days ago. Yeah, so very
very different relationship with Petros as when I compared to
what I have with Matt.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So light Lionard still gets a little fired up for
these games.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Well yeah, it goes both ways.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, okay, we'll just you know, curious, I go both.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
For you, I meaning like neither of us are talking
right now. Yeah, yeah, that's how it is. Neither here
it is man, it's rivalry week. This is how it goes.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Yep as usc a Notre Dame or Ravalie. Tell you
didn't toush push.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Come from that game Bush Push Bush Push yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Hey, by the way, I think I had I'm almost
positive I had money on Notre Dame in that game.
I'm almost positive.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Unfortunately I didn't get to win. Will you guys?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Were you four point underdogs?
Speaker 4 (02:23):
M I can't remember something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Lee, Can you look up what the point spread was?
I can remember watching that and being bummed because I
was actually considering Notre Dame money line. But I bet
if you could look up the points spread from that game,
almost positive was like four that That was the That
was the betting line from the the Bush Push game,
the illegal play that for some reason us he was
(02:45):
given a a win on disgusting if you asked me,
flat out robbery in South Bend. But there's that, Well,
let's let's try. Do we have that lead? Okay, we
are we are efforting the points spread on that, because
that's you know, the important stuff, or a point spread
from what eighteen years ago? That's yeah, that's the good
stuff here. So I mean, listen, it's been a doozy.
(03:08):
We broke down frozen heads and conspiracies last hour, so
make sure you check out the podcast.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
That's true, You're we are almost had your quota for
the Walt Disney frozen head story or topic of discussion
for the year.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Listen, it's a bit pertinent to the conversation. Aliens also
did hit Aliens. Yeah, so we have talked about just
coaches and some questionable decisions. I'm sure Petros is going
to have some thoughts on, you know, Jedfish and you know,
what was happening with Lincoln Riley and the USC Arizona game.
(03:40):
And we've talked about just some of the the reasons
behind why coaches do certain things and what's really going
on there. And one of the stories that came out
of Monday Night Football was Josh McDaniels in a win
is still being questioned because there was a point in
that game where there was a more than too late.
(04:01):
The Raiders had a seventeen thirteen lead, and instead of
going for it up for with you know, the Packers
needing a touchdown to win the game. Anyways, Josh McDaniels
elected to kick a fifty two yard field goal. Daniel
Carlson hit it off the upright and then Josh McDaniels
got bailed out because Jordan Love threw the pick in
(04:22):
the end zone and the Raiders still won the game.
What's happening there because the conversations are getting louder about
Josh McDaniels. We talked about, you know, they're playing the
Patriots this week, and there's conversations about Belichick and Bill
O'Brien and Mac Jones, but there are some conversations about
Josh McDaniels, and it feels like the Raiders are in
no man's land. Devontae Adams has already spoken and said,
(04:46):
this is not what I expected it to be, not
what I signed up for. And then you've got the
coach making questionable decisions, ultimately getting bailed out by a
picks or an interception in the end zone and a
pick by Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Look, in today's world of analytics and the access that
fans and people at home have to various stats and data,
they can look at all the decisions of a head
coach and it's it's put on a plate and serve
to all. So earlier in this season, when Josh McDaniels,
who I believe was down what eight was that week
two and decided to kick a fueld goal as opposed
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as opposed to going forward on fourth down that drew
quite the head scratching reaction, especially since I don't believe
we've had a coach make that decision in this since
the start of the millennium, or maybe since two thousand
and three.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Or something like that.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then you go to this decision, granted, you're up
seventeen to thirteen, and so you're thinking, all right, kick
the field goal, make them have to score a touchdown
to take it into overtime. But even then, the thought
process behind it is you go for it on fourth
and two because if you get it, the game's over.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
You can run out the clock.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Green Bay never gets a chance to touch the football,
and the counter is, look, even if you hit the
field goal, you're still giving Green Bay the football back.
They still not only have a chance to score a
touchdown and kick a field goal to go into overtime,
but technically they could just score a touchdown, go for too,
and win the game right there. So what's become a
talking point for a lot of fans and folks out
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there is win probability, and a lot of people are
going to track late game decisions by head coaches based
on how those numbers are crunched and the decisions they
make in those final moments, and this was one where
when you combine that with his decision earlier the season
week two to kick the field goal, then you're looking
at saying yourself like, is he being too conservative? Is
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he really putting his team in the best position to win?
I mean, had green Bay instead scored a touchdown there,
And I know we're talking about hindsight and that's not
the reality of what happened, but it very easily could have.
Green Bay was taking shots at the end zone at
the end for a chance to win. So I think
there's a lot of questions right now around the decision
(07:03):
making of Josh McDaniels. There's players who are obviously seeing this,
reading this, questioning it as well, and and again not
off to the start they want. However, it helps when
you get a win on Monday Night football.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I don't they did win the game.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
I think there have been a lot of questionable actions
on the behalf of coaches and situational football and what
you do, what's the what's by the book, what's right?
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You know, probabilities and statistics and all those things. Listen.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I don't I don't know if it was right. I
don't know if it was wrong, I just know they won.
That's that's that's what I do know. But I don't
think that that takes takes McDaniel off of the hot
seat in terms of where the team is. You know
you one of y'all mentioned Davante saying this isn't what
I signed up for. Well, I don't really know what
he signed up for other than the play with Carr,
(07:58):
because I you know, I don't think anybody knew if
they were going to be any better than what they
have been in in years prior to with with McDaniel
or anybody else kind of sort of at for what
that's worth at the coaching position. So you know, it's
it's a topic for conversation, I guess, But I mean,
(08:19):
in the grand scheme of things, what what to me?
I guess The question I would ask you guys for
me that I would like to know is does that
does the decision on the field goal have any bearing
on on how I guess Josh McDaniel is viewed moving
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forward as a whole.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
As a coach because I think so, because there's the pattern,
and Brady pointed it out the game against the Steelers, like,
why are you kicking a field goal there, if you're
down eight and you need to score a touchdown and
get a two to I mean, what's the plan there?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Wouldn't you guys as players, be like, what the hell
are we doing? Yes, I mean I don't know that
as many players. I mean, I know quarterbacks are more
in tune with like the fourth and two sort of scenario,
because when we're out there on offense, you're thinking yourself,
all right, this is a scenario. We go for it,
like we know the data, we know what I chart looks.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
At, and you're running the ball well.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right, and by the way, you have one of the
best short yardage backs. Granted you know at that point,
I think Jacob's had what sixty five seventy yards something
like that, So you'd think, like, okay, we can get
two yards. Like what's always been the kryptonite of Green
Bay they can't stop the run. And so in a
crucial moment like that, why not try to against the
team that struggle to stop the run this season? And
(09:34):
you've got one of the better short yardage backs than
Josh Jacobs. So I think it's a fair you know
point to you know, analyze and break down and really
questionably because we've seen this now a number of times
this season, and look, it doesn't The only person that
matters to is ultimately Mark Davis, who you know still
is probably paying John Gruden and has a new head
(09:55):
coach and Josh for Daniels, and you don't want to
move on from a head coach, you know, fast and
paying two guys, telling me three guys while you go
look for the next one to come in there, like
that's that's not the position that you want to be in.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
So it's it's a it's a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Right now because it's so early in the season, but
the Raiders got to figure some things out because you know,
clearly there seems like there's players who are just scrundled,
and you know, so far, there's probably some players questioning
what exactly they're doing and why they're doing.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
It, Like do you think there's probably players in the
Chargers locker room every time Brandon Staley makes, you know,
whatever decision he makes that are looking around going why
why are we doing this? Like why why is this
the move? Why is this the plan here? And it's
it's cool that he trusts them in certain spots to
maybe go, but some of it just doesn't add up
and he gets bailed out. And the one that always
(10:45):
comes to mind is the game at Cleveland last year
where they're at midfield and Brandon Staley decides to go
for it as opposed to punting the ball away and
making Jacoby Brissett, who struggled all game to go the
length of the field. He goes for it. They get
stopped and the only reason the Chargers will games because
Caide York missed like a fifty plus yard field goal.
Like that sort of gets lost in Well, they still
(11:06):
won the game, Yeah, but that decision could have cost
you all sorts of you know, playoff implications and things
moving on down the season. I just wonder if Mark
Davis is sort of compiling all this and then when
the conversations come, it's like, what about this against Pittsburgh?
Why did you do this against Green Bay? One of
those ultimately resulted in a loss and the other one,
(11:27):
you know, we won the game, but you were bailed
out with an interception.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Maybe let me ask you guys this one.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Let me ask you guys this on No, we're up
against the break, but who's who is this a bigger
game for this weekend between the Patriots and and the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
New England, you think so, I think I think New England.
Bigger game for New England, thank you.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
I think it's probably a bigger for New England. They
have a worse record.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
And if Bill Belichick is the mentor, you know, Josh
McDaniels is the mentee, right And remember, like I remember
the narrative surrounding Josh McDaniels when he first got to Denver.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Remember they had that hot six.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And oh start, they wore those old school throwback uniforms
and they beat New England in Denver and that like that.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, I think they're on like.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
The cover of Sports Illustrated after that win, so it
became like a thing. So I think it probably would
be bigger for New England only because they've looked so
bad to the past come up.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And also you remember the way they lost to the
Raiders last year with that lateral from Jacoby Myers on
the Champman Show. Champion like the fact, and that was
probably Belichick's call and his decision whatever that was, was
what sort of people gathered afterwards. So if Belichick, who
everyone's saying you know, he's finished, they're washed, they're done.
(12:50):
If they go into Las Vegas again, Andy loses to
McDaniels again, or gets out coached or whatever you want
to call it. Man, there's a lot of x's on
that other sideline, whether it's Jimmy Garoppolo, who knows, if
Tom Brady's going to be there. Maybe it'll be at
a w NBA game on a Sunday again, who knows.
I mean, he's got a lot of options out there.
Josh McDaniels there, yeah, I just.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
They're the same.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
I mean, the character was based off of real life
Bucky or you know, Mark Davis.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Is it a true story that movie?
Speaker 5 (13:25):
No? Oh, okay, I don't think so. This is JO good.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
I just I think it's I think it's a bigger
game for the Raiders because I don't think again, based
off of the reasoning you guys give Bill Belichick doesn't
have he has job security and can can do the
rebuild so he can get through a loss against the Raiders,
I think the Raiders and Josh McDaniels have more at
(13:49):
stake because there's less stability surrounding what's going on in
Las Vegas. Versus what's going on in New England. That
would be my opinion on it. But you know, I
kind of feel like this is a bigger game for
for Josh Daniels and for the Las Vegas reader.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
By the way, is it me or does Mark Davis
have a different friend with him in his suite every
single game?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Hey, let me tell you so. I saw him at
at the fight at the Earl Spence Bud Crawford fight.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
I mean, we can make as much fun of him.
I can make as much fun of him as I'd
like to make him. He ain't he bro He ain't
playing around. I'll tell you that he ain't a game.
He is going all right in the winds column in life.
If you if you're measuring it out that way, if
it's being measured that way, he ain't losing.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
I'm gonna tell you, yeah, he ain't. He ain't losing
that way.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
He got his priorities in the right spot.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
I mean, he definitely has a good picker in terms
of esthetically speaking, his eyes work very well.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, all right, well congratulations.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
I mean, even though we talked bad about the bad,
but if there's some good there, I mean that good
is really good.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I have to tell you that, well, listeners need to make
that know.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
I mean, it's almost as good as Petros Papadakus is
going to stop by the show here coming up next
on Fox Sports Radio, so make sure make sure you
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knock with you.
All right, So we are going to have the BQ
News coming up here and we'll call it twenty minutes
from now from the ti Raq dot Com studios. But
right now we must welcome in Petros Papadakis. He is
the co host of the Petros and Money yea Yeah,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to
(16:01):
seven LA Sports he's a Fox college football analyst. You
can get him on Twitter or x or whatever they're
calling it these days at the old pe Petros. What's happening?
Good morning morning?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Hello, Hello, Hello, good morning. Happy Notre Dame week?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, wake up the echoes.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
How do you feel about that? Are you excited for
this game?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Sure?
Speaker 7 (16:23):
I mean, the game's common, then they're over and then
there's a whole new set.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Of games to get excited about.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
And the game you were excited about the week before
seems like a distant memory and something that you've already
tread upon. But yes, it's a special game for the
SE people and the Notre Dame people. I don't know
if it's as big of a deal as it used
to be in college football. I mean, we're going to
see SE and UCLA playing in the cathedrals of the Midwest,
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you know, throughout the next few years and as long
as this Big ten thing lasts. So maybe it's not
as big of a deal as it used to be.
But I still like the game. I really like it
when it's out at Notre Dame in mid October because
of the history of the rivalry and Newt Rockney and
Howard Jones, the two coaches and how they set it up,
(17:14):
and the odd years us he goes out there and
plays in October and watches the leaves change, and then
the even years Notre Dame comes out here and it's
Hollywood during Thanksgiving weekend in the crisp air of Southern California.
So yeah, it should be fun. I don't know what
USC is going to look like. They seem to be
(17:36):
kind of struggling week in and week out to sort
of dominate games the way you would think they would
because they're supposed to be a title contender.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
But still a fun game.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I was going to ask you just even more about
the history as far as like what you've been told,
is it day back to when Newt Rockney's wife wanted
to take a trip out to southern California or make
that West Coach trip once a year.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Isn't that something that has to do with it?
Speaker 7 (18:01):
She had family in Los Angeles or the southern California area,
hence the every other year the holiday, and then Howard
Jones's wife loved the fall and missed I think she
had a Midwest background, or at least loved watching the
leaves change, which is something you know, you don't really
(18:22):
have here in southern California with the seasons, and so
that's what's supposed to be seasonal in that way.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Because of the wives.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, pretty kind of neat when you think about the
history of how this all came together.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
It was the two wives of the coaches.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
But well, yeah, you know you had to take trains.
You know, USC beat them. I forget what year, but
like you know, long before they would fly, and they
came in at Union Station in Los Angeles on the
top of Broadway, and there was like a ticker tape
parade for the team down Broadway, which is now if
you went down Broadway right now, I mean, it's it
feels like you're in a well a dystopian movie.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I was gonna follow up only by asking this, I mean,
just from watching the way s he was able to
pull out last week's game versus Arizona. You know, I
watched Kileb Williams and I think he should win a
second Heisman. And I watch him, I look at the
final play for example, to win it, and just go
that's not a good play call. If they don't have
Kileb Williams, SC loses do you see it kind of similar?
(19:23):
And do you feel like he's got a legit shot
because he seems to be the best player in football,
the only thing really propping up SC from losing more games.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Yeah, they'd be six and sixteen right without Caleb Williams.
I mean, at least that's what it looks like watching
them play. And for those of us that know the
a lot of those players on the roster for Arizona,
because there's a lot of Southern California guys, I was
just dumbfounded watching Noah Fafita go up and down the field.
(19:52):
He's their second string guy. I guess they have a
quarterback controversy now and people want him to start over
Jaden DeLaura.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
But I mean, that's not a big kid.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
That's not necessarily that strong of a kid, and he
ain't and he ain't that fast, I mean, you know,
but yeah, he carved USC's defense up just like everybody
else has, and they ran a bunch of short side
pitches and just bullied SC around. Of course I wouldn't
have called it in overtime, but of course I would
have gone for two and overtime too, And I guess,
(20:23):
like Jeff Fish, yeah, and LaVar he said he didn't
understand the rules after the game, that he didn't know
when he had to go for two, and gosh, maybe
you're running back. Coach doesn't know, but I hope your
head coach knows. But either way, it USC is just
more and more kind of middling as the weeks go
(20:44):
on and on. Now there's still an undefeated team, and
Caleb Williams gives you a shot to win every game.
You're gonna think that they're gonna have more of an
offensive chance at Notre Dame in this game. Can Notre
Dame outscore them? Maybe not, But the rest of the
USC is going to be a freaking adventure. And if
they got through that unscathed, I mean, that's like a
(21:05):
camel going through the eye of a needle, right, a
rich man being humble enough to get into the Kingdom
of heaven. I don't know if they can do it.
Just the way they play defense their identity. Now, Lincoln
Riley is trying to shame everybody for calling out the defense,
saying like, well, the media already had their mind made up,
as if it's some kind of political argument. It's like, no,
(21:26):
your defense has been absolutely awful. You've been unable to
dominate games. Look, we're talking about USC as a title contender, right,
And if you're doing that, if you're supposed to be
doing that, if that's what the object is this season,
this product is not it. But I don't really know
what the end goal is. Maybe it's just another Heisman
(21:49):
and that would be also pretty spectacular, But that's an
individual award, it's not a team award. And yeah, I
do think he's headed in that direction.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Petris Papadeg is joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on Twitter at the Old p Petros. We
were talking about this yesterday. One of the things that was,
I mean, I think the main takeaway from that Arizona
USC game is that the Cowboy Caller is back. There
were multiple linebackers for Arizona Rock and a cowboy caller.
And you, being a big fan of the neck roll
(22:16):
and the Cowboy Caller, does it warm your heart to
see that being brought back into the world of college football.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
It was like a Brian Cox style one too, where
it's like the flat screen TV behind your head.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
Yeah, so you don't you know.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
It really keeps you from getting I'm trying to read
do the LeVar wear a cowboy caller? Yeah, that's right,
you made it pretty famous. I mean that was I
wore one in my sophomore year in high school and
felt pretty good about it. But you know, we have
Eric Dickerson on the show every week because of a
(22:51):
TV deal or car dealership deal or something.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Yeah, he wore the toilet seat nec roll. Then what
you did, Eric Dickerson is amazing because you know, most
guys that wear every single piece of paraphernalia there is
available to a.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Football player can't move look like dorks too.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
And he had goggles, he had everything, Jerry curl Jerry Curle, goggles,
arm pads, elbow pads, headband band, neck roll, elbow pads,
arm pads, every finger taped twice at the joints, and
probably some kind of knee stuff or ankle stuff.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
And some kind of way.
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Looked like the coolest, dopest football player ever build a player.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Nobody ever made it look cooler. Yeah, and if any
of us have, any of us and LaVar looked damn
good on the football field. And Brady, you look pretty
good too. I'm coming out of the bus with your
big horsehead. You know, do you guys look which one,
which one left? Which one let out of the mark four?
Speaker 4 (24:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
There we go, but uh, it's really I don't. I
don't think there was a better guy who put the
outfit together in his own way than Eric Dickerson. And
that's why if you walk in to a local market
in southern California, you usually see a giant paper mache
Eric Dickerson with a Jerry curl and his old rams
(24:24):
Uni selling Corona or something.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Okay, well there was a big stack of twelve vers.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
There's one guy put in that category, and it'd be
deon Primetime Sanders. Now, coach Sanders, I gotta ask, is
is this thing turning into? Is this thing turning into
a drama field US versus them type of thing? And
(24:51):
if you know what I mean, take it a little
bit larger than just Colorado us, like, is it more
of a is this turning into a thing? Because it
got it's got a little ugly, maybe a little bit
drawn out with the whole shador Sanders, Yeah, showing his
watch and stuff like that.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Were you know what.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
It reminds me of the whole And we talked about
it over the summer, and look, Dion and his team
have proven a certain point. He built the team, his
son is a pretty good quarterback, a very good quarterback,
fun to watch, exciting team, all of those things, and
they beat you know, an Arizona State team that's been
struggling this year. Maybe they've been improving every week, but
(25:30):
they've been struggling, and they're gonna ramshackle their way through
the rest of the season, and I think they're gonna
be a lot of exciting games. It reminds me LeVar
of and we talked about the seven on seven nature
of Colorado football kind of over the summer when he
was building the team, and all the talking and all
the look at my watch and all this stuff. It
(25:53):
just reminds me of one on ones every day between
the receivers and the corners.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Right.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
It's like the whole team has become that perimeter type
of trash talking world, which is a big part of football.
It's a big part of football in all kinds of
different eras. Usually it does not penetrate into the into
the front seven or the box type of area, right
(26:19):
It Usually it's just a perimeter thing and everybody's always
talking about something and making money or whatever out there
and quoting rap lyrics and the rest of us are
living the life of saving private Ryan, you know, where
somebody gets their head blown off every two seconds.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
It's a it's.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
A weird kind of contrast, and it kind of feels
like that sort of mentality, a perimeter mentality. Dion's mentality
has kind of penetrated the whole program, and whether you
like it or not, Like you said, LeVar, I think
that any good team takes on the personality of their coach,
(26:59):
and he you know that that's what you're trying to
be as a head coach. You're trying to influence the
entire personality of the team, and certainly that's what's happening,
and he might be changing the entire personality of the school.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
For God's sakes.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
You might see in those hippie kids walk around with
giant gold medallions like Dione used to in the eighties.
Who knows how things are going to change in Bolder,
But I don't know how that will translate to the
rest of the season as they play through October and November,
where it gets harder and harder and harder. I don't
think it will be as big of a story as
the season ends. But I think it's just a product
(27:38):
of Dion's personality, and the head coach is the head coach,
and that's how the players are going to act. I
don't think anything egregious has happened. I think it's just
sort of par for the course when you have a
team that's coached by that guy and they've generated the
amount of attention that they've generated, and the Baby and
(27:58):
everybody else, the raw, getting everybody else running around big
newon kickoff, Big Baby Jesus. So, I mean it's uh,
it's look, it's been great for college football. It is
really uh ignited the early part of the season. And
I don't think anybody that works in college football, which
is a television business, is ungrateful for it.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Now, Petros, I did want to ask you before we
let you go, the panic bro the panic bros.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Oh, the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, you and you and Matt money Smith, how we
feeling here?
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Well, let's pass that, you know.
Speaker 7 (28:34):
I mean, it's uh, it's hard, guys. It's hard to
pump it up and scream door or yo yo yo,
yo yo yo. You're and everybody and then you know,
wake up the echoes again, you know, uh, in the
parlance of this week, and uh, it's hard with the look.
We were out there on a Monday for pregame and
(28:54):
I'm not saying the Dodgers were loose during warm ups,
but Key k Hernandez was running around punching everybody in
the nuts.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
And I was like, you know, where's the sense of.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Urgency at horse play?
Speaker 5 (29:05):
What was that?
Speaker 3 (29:06):
What was the puzzo salute he was doing with?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (29:10):
He did a he did a D bump with Dino Ebel,
the third base coach, like you know how you do
a fist bump sometimes in the seventies that the girls
used to bump booties or hips like you know, uh
with the short jeans, you know, but they did it
with their with their genitals.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
And what do we calling it? The puzzo the deep bump?
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I guess you would call it a D bump.
Speaker 7 (29:35):
And I was like, whoa, I mean, that's you know,
this is kind of a must win situation. But yeah,
Mookie Bets, you know, doesn't seem to be meeting the
moment this series, and neither does Freddie Freeman. And it
felt like that last year and what's it like to
win one hundred games and win the division every year
and feel great about it and then get your puzzo
(29:57):
blown off and the NLDS it's uh, let's just say
there was a lot of fights that broke out at
Dodger Stadium on Monday nights, scattered. There was one in
the bathroom with two guys like like it looked it
was pretty hilarious. Two hesher's going at it, you know.
But uh, it's uh, it's certainly concerning. And it feels
(30:18):
a lot like the Braves of the nineties. And that
stands to reason because the president of the Braves in
the nineties, Stan Kasten, is the president of the Dodgers
these days.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That's unfortunate. Well, you can get them on Twitter at
the old p He is the cost of the Petros
money show on the Blowtorch.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
You know what's coming on in LA after you guys?
Speaker 3 (30:37):
What's that scam? Oh yeah, Tim Kates.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
They cover up the Dan Patrick in l A. On
the terrestrial radio. It's Tim Kates and Steve Sachs scam
Sacks and Kate's in the am loved Tim Kate. Wow,
it's a great show. But you know what, a lot
of lamentation and weeping and moaning and gnashing of teeth
with the callers.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I just don't understand why or not look up these are.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
Listen, listen to some calls one more time.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Competing.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
All right, Pete, we're gonna do it again next week,
and who knows, maybe the Dodgers will still be alive
or you know, probably not.
Speaker 7 (31:21):
But Brady gonna be at uh in South Bend, hiding
hiding in the turf, Come on, hiding in the turf. Yeah,
ready to pop up and sock Caleb Williams in the
head Carroll style.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
No, but we don't we know, you know, you know
we we have to grow out the turf too. You
could do it the grass old days.
Speaker 7 (31:40):
We brought that turf blown out many in thee and
now we complain about the rubber turf, and then we
complain about the next thing.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Yeah, yeah, well sorry, yeah, petros always fun and let's
do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Tell the lizard, I'll say it. What's up man lizards doing?
All right? What's going? She's good?
Speaker 7 (32:01):
The big uh she had a big piece of her back,
you know, come off the molting, So I think she's
you know, she's been a little out of it the
last couple of weeks, because you know, they get bigger
and they're tired when their skin comes off.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Have you grown more fond of the lizard? Yes, yeah, yeah,
I feel like it was a burden at first. Now
it feels like it's part of the.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
I took the lizard up into the sun the other
day and we were sitting by the pool, and the
lizard just went full sellout and jumped into the pool.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
And lizards can swim, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:27):
But I didn't think she could get out, so I
snatched her out of the pool.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Oh had you ever seen her swim before? No? So
you're kind of curious as like, you know.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Well, I mean it stands to reason, you know, But
because it got legs make their skin ashy a little bit. Yes, yeah,
I didn't know about that before I was in a
locker room with a lot of black people.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Ashy is is a word for the culture.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
You were unaware of that, Petress.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
At what age did you learn that my sixty percent
Asian high school team did not have.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Different issues there?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Totally different?
Speaker 3 (33:04):
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Speaker 3 (34:56):
What good.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
No, here's Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Well, we're gonna start off back in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
We talked about Connor Bodard and his debut for the
Chicago Blackhawks last.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Night, taken on the Penguins.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But there's just a story that keeps on going, and
that is the disdain for offensive coordinator Matt Canada with
the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yeah, at the PPG.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Paints Arena where the Penguins were opening up their season
last night, there began a fire Canada chant that broke
out even at the hockey game. Even though the Steelers
are now three and two and actually at top of
the AFC North given their tiebreaker with Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I can't imagine there's one Steelers fan that looks back
on Sundays. Like my nephew is a diehard Steelers fan
and I saw him and said for that game on Sunday,
and he was almost embarrassed at Pittsburgh won, just with
how bad they looked. Just the defense was great, but
it's it's becoming now a thing or like, I mean,
(35:58):
what is Tom's got to hear some of this. Matt
Canada's got to hear some of this around town, right,
Like people have got to be yelling at him or
honking their horn, Like it just feels like this is
now to the point to where some decisions are going
to have to be made pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Here.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Even if you're immune to it, you still see other
people who hear and the way they look and the
way they kind of whisper and the way they're like, well,
I wonder if he here, I wonder if he's going
to react.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
To it here he goes he's coming out here.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, a lot of that.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
It's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Any thoughts guys that you think Tom Brady's gonna come back,
well you should put those to bed because he said
recently on his Let's Go podcast with co host Jim
Gray that literally his parents and kids would kill him.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
He would not be around by night.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
So if there was any speculation whatsoever, which I don't
know that there has been much this year, but maybe
in the beginning when Aaron Rodgers went down. But the
reality is it sounds like he's in retirement and he's
done and he's moving off the next step in his life.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
He already did it once, you know, like he came back,
you know when everyone thought he was going to retire,
like just stay retired. And he's got all these other
every other day it seems like he's part owner in
a new business or something like that. He's got a
lot of other interests outside of gifts football.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
He wants to be a billionaire, you know, that's kind
of his next thing.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
He's trying to get so he just bought a six
million dollar yacht. Too good for hell? Did he? Yes?
He did?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Damn very nice, hey, Tom, can I get a rat?
Speaker 1 (37:30):
And last, but not least, in today's news, kind of
a sad story, if you will, a one hundred and
four year old Chicago woman died on Monday, just days
after leaping out of an airplane and breaking the world
record for the oldest skydiver. That's Dorothy Hoffner. Last week
set the record for being the oldest in a thirteen
(37:52):
five hundred foot tandem jump at the Skydive Chicago Airport
in Ottawa, Illinois. And unfortunately this past week has passed away,
so I couldn't want.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
To hurt her family.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
But still pretty remarkable setting a world record one hundred
and four Pretty cool man.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
At least she did something pretty interesting before she got
up out of here.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
By the way, they said that, you know, it was
just purely coincidental. She died in her sleep. You know,
it just happened to be days afterwards.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
I mean, if she was hoping I've just died last sleep.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
If she was that close to going, you imagine if
that happened in.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Mid air, I would that would be fire.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh what do you mean, Why not just dying?
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Why are you in the air like, oh my gosh,
look at the world from here.
Speaker 8 (38:35):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
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