October 12, 2023 • 49 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys preview TNF between the Chiefs and Broncos. Taylor Swift heads to KC to cheer on Travis Kelce who will be hobbled vs Denver on Thursday Night Football. LaVar and Brady detail their experiences with Toradol and knee drains. Senior NFL Reporter, Albert Breer talks about who’s looking at Quarterbacks in next year’s Draft, coaching hot seats, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Arings rating Win and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Thursday morning,
Good morning, sir, Week six of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Already here all right, flying by? So exciting? Yeah it is?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah me listen, this is the good stuff. This is
what we're all excited. Is this the good stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah? Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're gonna get the defending Super Bowl champions on national
TV they or excuse me, on my Prime video to
national champs, the defending super Bowl champions, super Bowl champs.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The Kansas City Chiefs. They're going to be hosting the
Denver Bronx.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
They really are.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
And it's funny though our rundown doesn't have that matchup.
We have a different matchup on the Rundown.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
It's funny, but I notice, Yeah, it's pretty cool. Well,
I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The Kansas City Chiefs are an eleven point favorite as
it stands right now hosting those Denver Broncos, which I
don't know if anybody had that in the cards when
it came to what Denver could look like this year
with Sean Payton. But this is an eleven point favorite
in terms of Kansas City, and it, at least on paper,
appears to be potentially another wipeout in front of a
(01:29):
huge audience.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
So do you guys know the last team that had
this sort of winning streak versus divisional opponent?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I'm asking, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The Niners in the Rams. They they've beaten God who?
And then who is the other team? We just talked
about him earlier this year? The Patriots.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Niners have beaten the Rams like ten straight times.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Patriots above saying what did surpassed this one?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Patriots and Jets is the closest.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think they just got to fifteen and Kansas City's
beaten Denver fifteenth straight.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
OK, So that's not really answering the question.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, well, I mean I didn't hap it off the
top of my head. I was trying to check on
the right down. I don't either stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
I just I figured maybe we'd have some stat or
with Lee would know, or someone would know.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, Sam knows, Yeah, I mean who cares? Oh, oh,
Coop knows. Coop knows, Go ahead, tell them Coop. Miami
Dolphins over the Buffalo Bills. Twenty game win streak fro
nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty. Oh wow, well done, Custi,
Cooper and Cooper.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Why would we know that unless you just saw it somewhere?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Was that I didn't have my hand?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Why?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Why would you know that? Coop? How would you know that?
Was that part of a stat on Ben Show?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I googled it really quick? Okay, well listen, now that's quick.
Google it too.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Because you came so quick, Coop?
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Could you teach Lee to google that fast?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh wow? Well, I'm sitting in Lee's seat right now.
Lee was helping me.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Okay, so you're basically saying, type as fast as you or.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What you had to go get some paper towels.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I'm just saying, I'm I'm finishing up some post production.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So it's just, you know, thanks Lee. It could be
that LEAs you searches, other things pop up as he
goes to type.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Let it just Coop so much faster. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Coop was quick.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well, I could have jumped in and acted like I
was like this all knowing dude, you know he's got
he came in quick. I'll tell you that I could
have threw it out there, But I don't want to
take that. You got it, Coop, you got it. It
was really good.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yelled it from the kitchen. Oh okay, yeah see Lee
yelled it from.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
The I got you. He was helping me out.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Which is a possibility.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
There could be a uh what are they called a
vagrant walk in the uh walk in the area at
this time of night, it is, it is potential out here.
How do you lose to a team in the division
fifteen straight times?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
How's that happen?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It feels like, well, divisional game, you're familiar, fifteen straight time?
Denver Broncos of loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. The
last time they beat him was twenty fifteen and week
two when Peyton Manning was there.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That was their Super Bowl year.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
If I had to bet, how many head coaches have
the Broncos had between now and then?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And see that was how many?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Well Kubiak then obviously he stepped down, retired. Maybe he
saw the running was on the wall, didn't want to
deal with whatever was coming next. But think about how
many head coaches they've had, changes their general manager, and
like that's going to start to give you the tea
leaves as to how this happens because divisional opponents, for
(04:39):
the most part, they're built to kind of beat each other,
like you're built your roster to beat to win your division.
If you can win your division, you get a home
playoff game. If you win the conference, you get home
playoff you know, road, the entire way. But that's how
it has to start, is you have to win your
division first. And usually when you've got a roster that
had different coaches coaching it, different general managers selecting players
(05:04):
to fit different schemes and what they think is good
or you know whatever, that usually impacts their ability to
consistently compete with an advision. So I would I would
look at it and say, Okay, yeah, Sean Payton this year,
Hacket before that, Fangio before that was Fangio after.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Kobiak Advance, Joseph Vance.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Joseph Vance, Joseph was there, who's now by the way
back as their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Ye, that's like going.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
A little uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, maybe maybe he's trying to sabotage his second time
around the way things went the.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
First time around?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Is that your conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Listen, I'm not ready to I got to work on
that a little bit. I need to add a little
bit more depth to that conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But that could be a possibility.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Is that like Johnny Depth.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, the world famous porn star Johnny Depth. But I
just fIF Johnny d for sure, like fifteen straight times
at some at some point, you think you'd get one
during that course of time.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And this wasn't always just the Patrick Mahomes era. Alex
Smith was there, like, this wasn't just because well they've
got Mahomes they got an all time great. It just
I feel like at some point you would get them
once and these.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Guys do realize though it does set the stage for
a massive victory like Kansas City wins. Nobody cares, doesn't matter,
like you expected them to win eleven point point spread,
like nobody cares. But if the Broncos win, then the
Broncos have a feel good story. They break the streak.
(06:44):
Maybe they're getting things back together. I mean, can you
accidentally I know you can lose games in the league.
I know you can have like kind of like I
don't I would not even call this a trap game
for Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
What I would label it as if they were to
lose to Denver tonight. But if they were to lose
to Denver, how do we categorize this win for Denver?
That's the question I would like, because they have nothing
to lose. Everybody expects them to lose and big yeah right,
so okay, so if they win, how do we talk
(07:23):
Is there any way that they can win where we
come out of the game talking about them as Okay,
they're back on track, or there's the Sean Payton and
the you know, the Denver Broncos we've been looking for,
Like what what is the narrative coming out of this game?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Well, I think if their defense was good, that would
be helpful. Like seeing their defense shut down Kansas City
and Patrick Mahomes, that'd be a step in the right direction.
I mean, I don't care what they do this week, right,
if they win, great, If they don't the following it's
a fluke, or you just say, oh, it's.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
A short week.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
You know, anything can happen, like that's what you chock
it up to, Like it's not going to take one
win for them to convince people.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
It's going to take multiple or even the.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Fact that Look, they play each other two out of
the next three weeks, So if somehow Denver swept Kansas City,
then I think it would change the narrative. Then I
think you get people who go, maybe this thing in
Denver starting to turn around, you know, maybe they're starting
to figure this thing out.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
They're able to beat the Chiefs twice in two or
three weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, I mean, Patrick Mahomes is, you know, being very kind.
He spoke about the matchup against the Denver Broncos in
preparation for Thursday's game, which, by the way, Travis Kelsey
is listed as questionable with that ankle injury. But Patrick
Mahomes did give a little bit of love and respect
to a divisional opponent as they get ready for this
game later on tonight.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
When you play a team like the Broncos, same with
any division opponent, there's just another level of intensity. So
I'm not worried about necessarily a streak or anything like that.
I'm worried about winning against a division opponent. And I know,
just as I think everyone this locker room knows that
it's kind of it doesn't matter what the records are,
it's gonna be a close game. It's gonna be a
hard fought battle. Both teams won't give everything they have,
and so that's just the history of the matchup. And
(09:10):
so that's that's the thing with me. It's not about
the street. It's about going out there to find a
way to win against a division opponent, a tough on battle.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Now, do you think he also knows that the Miami
Dolphins put up seventy against this defense a couple of
weeks ago?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You think that also came up in.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Conversations, because I would imagine there's probably you.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Know a little bit anything you can do, I can
do better.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm saying Tyreek Hill lit him up, and maybe he's
looking like, Okay, well if he can, if he can pull.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now can't Let's let me see if we can, we
can make this happen.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I mean, do you really think they're going to try
to put seventy five up on them seventy.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Two break the record.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, they'll be respectful, they'll shut it down. Yeah, they'll
shut it down. Well, they got bigger goals. They're not
trying to put up seventy against the Denver Broncos. But
and and it would be hard to do again, I
just can't imagine in.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Disrespect that that there will be when you see that
Chelsea's not going to play. Maybe plays, but what if
they don't play? Would you be surprised or shocked if
they They're like, you know what, Travis, take this game
off like we don't we don't need. Yeah, we don't need.
I mean, take the rest. He's gonna have a friend.
(10:17):
I mean I might, I might treat this like a
preseason game if I'm I might try to use this
as as an extra bye week if I'm the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Wow, that's just straight disrespect.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now he is gonna Travis Kelsey is going to have
a friend. Uh, hey, you get a rest this week.
You get the rest this week. You everyone gets the
rest this week?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Why not your your girl? Uh? T Swift is going
to be in attendance for this is going to be there,
be there.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah, is coming true. Hey everyone gets a butt at the.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Apple Yeah, Amazon Primes Amaze.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And then we'll eventually get it to who's left out? CBS?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Oh yeah, CBS hasn't gotten it yet.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
But CBS. I think that next week's game is that
a CBS.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Game versus Chargers.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Probably, I think so yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I'm telling you there, everyone gets a bite at the apple.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Let me where's the game at?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Is it in Denver, Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
All right?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
By the way, supposed to be windy and maybe potentially rainy?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do you guys think Sierra would be there?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And if for some strange reason they happen to show Sierra, do.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
You think of Serra or Ciarra? Up this Sierra? Kind of?
It was like, Sierra's.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Spelled sar you could you could, you could say it
it's spelled that way, but it's Sierra. So if they
show you like a dance off, he mean sing off,
dance off, wave off, fan off, like popularity off, something off, Sierra.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Isn't a compet didn't like bring it on and all that? Right?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Who am I thinking that? That was Wade's wife? Who's
Wade's wife? Dwayne? You can she bring it on?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I'm just trying to say, can you kind of see that?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, but Sierra can flipping dance, She can dance,
and she knows how to get in and out of
bags at the White.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
House yard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
She'll kick her heels off, she'll want she hadn't afraid
to kick her heels off to catch the pass from
her man.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And getting them drills real real good.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, maybe maybe there's a skills challenge on the field
between Sierra and Taylor Swift at one of the breaks.
I mean, that would be more interesting to me than
the game. I actually, I actually would be more interested
in that than the game. Like let's see who's faster,
(12:50):
or let's see who could get through these these bags.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You know, let's se who could catch the ball. Yeah,
but I feel like in a dance off, Taylor Swift
doesn't you know, that's a lot of her weight class.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I mean, let's figure fure out how to make it fair.
They would need to make it fair. I mean, come on, like,
spin on the bet, go around to bet like ten
times before you go do it, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Mean yeah, come on, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, that could do it, right, I mean yeah, I
would be all in on that. I'm just telling y'all,
I'm more of a football.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Guy and not my thing. I'm a football guy too,
But if they got.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
That would have been the wrong choice of words at
that point. If they're going to force if they're going
to force this upon us, I just want to if
that happens.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I just want to see I want a still shot
of al Michaels and the look on his face that
jump would be.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Just just good thinking to him.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
He might be enjoying it, though I went from I
went from Sunday Night football to this this and and
just the fact that he could not contain himself from
making a comment about it. Some disparaging remark about either
her or Taylor Swift would be fantastic, But nonetheless, the
fact that that's even a storyline going into this game
means that Denver's probably gonna get their ass what later
(14:03):
on tonight, and then everybody's going to get to see you, well,
you know, the awful Broncos on a standalone stage.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Can I give you my assessment of this betting line?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Like this is.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
How I actually look at bets like this, when there's
huge lines and divisional matchups, which I just the game's
gonna be close, and you think that both they both
were last year so and we thought they were disaster
last year, like their defense is bad this year. We're
not calling this team a disaster because their offense isn't
that bad. So when you have a big line like this,
I look at it, and I just say, all right,
(14:36):
I'm going to lay the eleven points, because if I
took the eleven points and Denver ended up getting blown out,
I would feel like a worse idiot than if I
lay the eleven points and then Denver keeps it close.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
So I'm literally.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Already planning on how I'm gonna feel after I lose
this bet and which way I'm gonna feel worse. So
that's all I'm playing it. I'm gonna lay the eleven
points because I won't feel quite as dumb when the
Denver Broncos keep us closed.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
That's a really negative handicap, I'll be honest with you,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
But like that's like, that's how I look at betting.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Like I'm one of those people who, if you're gonna bet,
I get more. I feel worse from losing than I
do from the high of winning.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'm so used to it that I just it just
kind of rolls off my back at this point, Oh,
I lost again, or you lose a lot, And plus it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Does hurt more than winning. And the fact that more times, and.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
The fact that the Broncos a lot, the fact that
the fact the Broncos are getting eleven points, like if
they go up, say fourteen to three. Now they're up
twenty two, and at that point, then I start going
to the well and I start in game betting live.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Betting, if you will, because I got to make that money. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So that's why I don't even I just consider, Okay,
it's a loss. They're already down twenty plus points. Let
me go in here and see what I can do. Oh,
look at this, six minutes left in the second quarter.
There's a point in total on the Chiefs. Will they
score over twelve and a half points this half? There's
things like that.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You can get in there.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
One get craft challenge yourself. Yeah, because when you lose
a lot, you have to look for options to try
and figure it out, solution to.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Figure out how to be a winner. Yep, Okay that's
how it is.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So are you a winner if you get one bet
to hit even if you've lost like ten before, Yeah,
you're still a winner. Yeah, because you're judged off of
your last win for your last your last result.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
See bang, which.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Look look at Kurt Warner. He went to three Super
Bowls only one one though? Really yeah, only one? But
you know what Hall of Famer and a great movie
that Bradley three that Brady highly recommends.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I kind of watched it. Yeah, I kind of watched it. Yeah,
I didn't finish it, but I did kind of. I
kind of watched it. Well, that's probably I didn't finish it.
I was on a plane and never said that I
could find another movie that I wanted to watch.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was like, I'll give it a go.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
And then once they were square dance and once they
got out of the square dance in part I don't
even think I made it to him playing football in
the movie.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I kind of went to sleep. Yeah, yeah, I took himnap,
probably better for it.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I'm gonna watch it though it's still it's still on
like demnd It's like it's on there, it's on, you know,
I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna stream it. I'm probably
gonna miss that, shouts out the Kurt Warner man. Kurt,
it's a good dude.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Man. You ever shirt you ever meet him?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
No, he's a good dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kurt's good
people man.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
So we've got Thursday and at football kicking off later
on tonight. It will kick off Week six in the NFL.
As pointed out earlier on the show, the odds for
this game clearly indicate the Kansas City and each Thiefs
are expected to take care of business when it comes
to the Denver Broncos for a sixteenth straight time.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
They are an eleven point favorite and have not lost
to Denver since September of twenty fifteen. Now, Travis Kelcey
is questionable for this game, right, we know that Taylor
Swift is going to be there?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Whoopee?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Do how do we know Taylor Swift? Where's the reports
that confirm she's going to be there?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
TMZ and they're never wrong?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Is that the report though that you're reading?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, that she's going to be traveling to the game.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Did you say this or did Lee?
Speaker 7 (18:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I saw it?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh, okay, yeah, I mean it wouldn't matter even if Lisa.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm just curious, why what are you doubting the credibility
of Lee's I.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Didn't doubt any credibility. That's why I said that it
wouldn't have mattered. I just was curious. I couldn't remember
who said it. If it was Lee, you or maybe
LeVar No.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Would maybe LeVar Well, you know, they do say if
you want to get they do say if you want
to get a confromation.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Of this conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I am, but I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I'm just saying, if you want to get confirmation,
you need to have a double sourced. So I'm reporting
that point.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
With Jackson that first that it was all over from
there like ever since then, their credibility is.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Through the seialing.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now, Lee, are you seeing the same report that Taylor
Swift is going to be in attendance?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I am seeing that report front TMZ.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So basically, for you go for you losers who can
enjoy a football game without seeing Taylor Swift, You're you're
in good hands because Amazon Primes got you covered later
on tonight. So have fun with that, losers. While everybody
feasts on Taylor Swift. Cinda ways, even though we gambled
on it last segment, But Travis Kelsey being questionable. I
got to ask a question here, so.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Good question coming. Here's a good question.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He turns his ankle or rolls his ankle last week
in Minnesota, seemed very upset.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Thank you all right?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So what happened at halftime to which he came out
and played pretty well and kint a touchdown pass?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
How did that go?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Stick that thing in the booty cheek, put the band
aid on it, put a nice little tape job on it,
and you keep going.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So why can't he do that before tonight's game?
Speaker 6 (20:10):
We can?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Would Your question is that's the question? Do you recommend it?
Is there a reason for him to do it? I
don't think there's a reason for him to have to
get a turtle shot and tape up his ankle and
go out there and give it a go.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You don't need him for this one. What do them
to do like pay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, no, go out there and look cute so they
can do cutaways of you on the sideline, chewing gum
or eating some flower seeds, spit them in. You know,
it's it's not feasible to spit them on the ground anymore,
so you spit it in another cup and then they'll
cut away from him to Taylor Swift, and then they'll
talk about Taylor Swift and then they'll talk about you know, Kelsey.
(20:48):
They'll go back to Travis on the sideline talk about
him some more, and then between they'll have like a
small box, you know how they have the small boxes
up in the corner. They'll be showing the game in
the small box. They won't be showing Travis Kelsey Taylor
Swift in the small box in the corner while the
game and the plays are going on. They're going to
show the game in the small box and Taylor and
(21:10):
Travis will be on the big screen.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm so tired of it.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's going to be a Travis and Taylor TN T
You know, you know what happens when you get t
and T.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Right, what's that blows up?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I just I want my football back and I want
to know, like I'm more I'm more interested in, like
what is that conversation like when it comes to tour
it all? Do you just give the doctor the look
and say you know what to do? Or does he
tell you, Well, this could be a side effect. You're
going to feel like crap in four hours. It may
get you through this game, But like, what is that conversation?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like, oh, you don't remember any given sunday. You know
my man went up in there. He's like top unplugged me. Yeah,
it's Latimer. That was Latimer. You know, I need some
some bins of cream and and some that I die.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's juice, right, that's Royd's tour.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It all just numbsy. I think he think he wanted
some pain killers. He was hurting in that any given sunday,
you know his his role. How's it happened to you?
Tell us how how's what?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
How do you get?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I don't take that stuff?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
How do you get to the tort all? You don't
get You've never got a tort all shot?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, I've gotten to all before. I mean usually you
just fall a live. You just the log line and
you're like, oh that's must wait, I all stand there.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That is that really?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Not true?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What you hear for.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Literally, it's not like that. That's not the equipment room,
that's not the trainer, Like, no, that's the dock. He's
giving you a tort all shot. He's there in this locker.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You are right about that, And it's always at the
back of the trail room, like guys are like putting
being gay on and like all kinds of different stuff
be going on in the in the in the training room,
but it's always in the back of the train in
the room.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
I do miss the smells of a locker room, not
not locker room training the trainers like you get that,
like Tiger Bomb Ben getting like all those like all
the old guys trying to make sure they're loose, you know,
and getting all that stuff, all the different smells.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, that's that's I do miss those those moments too.
You sit on the on the treatment tables and everybody's
sharing war stories and laughing about different things, and yeah,
yeah that I missed that part a lot, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And then they pull out this javelin and sticking in
your joints.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh no, now torn tortoll needles are are decent, they're normal.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
If you ever had to get drained, now that is
a traumatic experience, my friend, you have.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Doesn't it feel better afterwards?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Though?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, it does feel better afterwards. But it is the worst.
And when I say it's the worst, I mean it
is the worst. The syringe size on on everything. If
you're out here, if you're listening to me right now,
take a look at your pinky finger. That's how big
the syringe is. I don't care how big your fing
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pinky finger is, and relating to somebody else's, it's somewhere
around that size. And the whole of the syringe is
that big. I can recall what they put it. Like
they were draining my knee and they put like they
got to put it like in like the what is it,
like the burst's sack or the like, like where all
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the fluid is building up, and I'm like, there's no
way a needle that long is going to fit in
that space you're pointing it at right now.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's just bit blood and puss.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Blood.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, blood, listen, I remember that's what that's that.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
That's the noise my body made when they stuck that
thing in my knee.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Ude.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I remember halftime my senior year, had a long run
versus SC and Southern Cow and I got tackled like dad.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Inside the ten or something, and I remember.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
The way my knee hit it literally like I knew
right when I hit, I was like, oh, I was
like that's not good, Like something's it kind of whipped
around when I got hit and like hit the ground.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I got up, man, and that bad boy.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
It was actually kind of like a crazy moment because
you don't think your body can do that.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
You're like, oh my god, where's my knee?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Looks gigantic and so like I tried to put a
sleeve over all this up. They're like, hey, well, off
the drain and halftime. I'm like, what's wrong? What's going
on with me? So we go in and they pull
out that needle, like he's talking about well and Charlie
Weiss was our head coach at the time.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
He's like trying to find me.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
He's like, where the f is Quinn And he walks
in the training room and they've got this gigantic needle
they're jabbing into my knee, looks at me, looks at
the needle.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
It was like, h oh, all.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Right, and it just walked out like like they drained
it for the next like ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's big enough to you almost pass out. Man.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
He didn't say a word to me until I got
back out in the field and he's like, what do
you feel like you can do? I was like, let's
just try to do whatever you want and then I'll
tell you what I can't.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Because that's a grown man ish.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You see that big ass needle going in somebody else's body,
You know that, dude?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Is it tile to like settle down too, because people
don't realize if, like if I bumped into something, that
knee would swell right back up. Like I couldn't practice
for like a couple of weeks afterwards. We had finals
and all that before a bowl game. But I barely
practiced before the Sugar Bowl that year, Like we didn't
tell anyone that, but I had to get it, like
all the inflammation calmed down before I could even go
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back out there and practice, which that was hard to do.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So it filled.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
They gotta numb you up first, like that syringe is
so big. They gotta pre pre stick you, so they
stick you with like nova caine or whatever, light acane
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And so how long before halftime do you suffer the injuries?
It was under what like you were inside the red zone?
Was it like a couple of minutes left in the
first half?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
And I don't remember, I mean, I know it was
a long run. It was like a sixty yard run.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And then after that, I think Darius had I handled
the ball off like the next plan. I think he
fumbled and then usc recovered. So I can't remember exactly
what portion of the game it was, but I know
it was in the first half.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
I think it was. Man, I can't remember it was
first quarter or second quarter?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, that and so it filled up that quick that
they were like, all right, we know what to do
and just pumped you.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Pumped you with that needle and drained. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I mean, look, it made me feel better. They looked
at it and they were like, oh, okay, we know what
to do. I'm like, oh, thank god, because I'm looking
at like, like, am I bleeding out? Like is this
what it looks like? Your body just fills up with
blood or something like? It was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, listen, I don't know if Travis Kelsey's going through
all that, but he is questionable. So maybe, uh, you know,
about an hour before kickoff, you break out the the
feel good javelin, throw it in.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Him feel good javelin.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Next thing you know, he's out there playing and now
we have to start questioning our under what was it
sixty six and a half yards on the Travis Kelsey
bet that was the underleave. Yeah, so under sixty six
and a half yards that some of us took on
Travis Brady and I took the under Labar took the over.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So ten nineteen left in the second after Brady's sixty
yard run.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So you played another ten minutes on that bum wheel, geez,
only to have him and on that bum wheel. Let
me tell you something. That's that's called putting it together.
That's called getting it done under the circumstances, and then
you get it drained at halftime.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Man, oh man, I bet.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
You we looked like sweet sweet d Willie out there
for that ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
His pimp.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It was you had a pimp. You had a pimp, limp.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
MGNI over here over here. So you know what we did.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
We put on a neopren's sleeve to try to cover
it up to blend in with my skin tone, thinking
like no one would know.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
They knew that it looked like it looked like a
prosthetic limb. Quinn's hurt, Man, Hi, check check Quinn's hurt.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
He's hurt.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Look at it left flat, left flat?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And by the way, was was that was that the
game at the coliseum. That was your that was your
senior year, right, you played it senior year? Okay us, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
At the callie they say they call it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Do you want to know a funny story about that.
It's just kind of weird how this all ties together.
So I actually almost called the second half kickoff of
that game. I entered a radio contest locally in l
A nice to try and and and if you, if
you did the best play by play call you would
you would get to announce the second half kickoff of
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the USC Notre Dame game that year. And I ended
up finished runner up to some guy, but they brought
us on to Colin Cowhard's show and they announced the
winner on the air. Was that like it was at
the daven Busters near your place, labar in uh Arcadia?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Oh arcadey? I need to raise that right next to yes.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So I I almost got to call the second half
kickoff of Brady Quinn's return to action after getting the
javelin shoved in his knee because he hurt his knee
the first half.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
That wasn't a javelin, that was something of another that
was like an oil drill, not that. Yeah, it wasn't, but.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It all ties together. Look see we eventually got tavelin
is tourt all that other thing that's like, that's bruh,
that's traumatic, man. I can I can remember the sound.
I can remember what I was doing. I had a
lot of pressure on me. I had family members in there.
They're looking at me. I'm looking at them. They know
I don't like needles, so I'm starting to panic. This
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is the biggest needle I've ever seen in my life.
What am I going to do? You gotts? How are
you afraid of needles? You got all those tattoos? That's weird.
It's not the same now it's not the same. Well, hey,
it's not the same In Denver. They're going to get
wiped out tonight, so good for.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Them, it is. So what if they win, though.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
No chance you might.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
There's a zero chance they went back game.
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Speaker 2 (32:01):
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How we feeling.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
I'm good, I'm good. How you guys doing good?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Got to ask you if the Broncos go out tonight,
and the betting odds would say, and the history between
these two franchises would say that Denver is probably going
to get stomped out if they get beat badly tonight
and it's seen by all and everybody's watching and they
just see how awful they look this early in the season.
What sort of changes could we see to this franchise
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over the next several weeks before the trade deadline.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Well, you know, I think we all know the effect
these standalone games can have sometimes and it can make
a loss feel like two losses, you know, So we'll
have a material effect internally, I don't know, but I
can tell you they've already started the process of shielding
phone calls on their own play players. And there are
players that I think would have value to other teams.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Now.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
The prices right now are high. You know, in the offseason,
the price to start a conversation on Jerry Judy was
a first round pick. The price to start a conversation
on Courtland Sutton was a second round pick. I think
both those guys well, both those guys have already been
the subject of of incoming calls, and I think those
guys would become more available. Garrett Bowles on their offensive line,
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another one who doesn't seem we're real happy with the
state of affairs. He could be available. On defense. Josie Jewel,
He's a really good, heady, tough linebacker for them. Justin
Simmons one of the best, you know, safeties in football
over the last five years or so. You know, those
guys I think could become available. And then you know,
like the big one would be Patrick Sartan. And I
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can tell you, like, like I think it would take
a lot for them to move him, like multiple first
round picks a lot, but he's the most valuable asset
and do need pick. So yeah, I certainly think if
they take it on a chin tonight, then they'd be
open for business, even more so than they already are.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Albert.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
If they do take it on the chin, I mean,
someone's going to.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Have to fall on the sword and take the blame.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
It doesn't look like they can really move on from
Russell's deal until maybe after twenty twenty four be a
little more palatable. But the way the season's going, maybe
Denver's in striking distance to get someone that would be
Sean Payton's hand pick. I mean, how do you foresee
this whole thing playing out? I know, again, the game's
got to be played. We have two in the next
three weeks, but how do you foresee this all playing
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out in Denver?
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Yeah? I mean, I think Brady, like the one thing
that we do we should keep in mind, Russell's actually
been better than it was last year. I know it
sounds crazy because so much has gone wrong there, but
you know, I know internally they feel like he's been
a lot better than he was last year, and he's
sort of subjugated his ego and he's been quieter, and
you know, they're using him in the run game more.
He's been more willing in the one game. And so
(35:02):
I don't think Russell is necessarily a problem. The thing is,
he's also probably not part of Sehn Dayton's long term solution,
and so you're saying they can't get rid of them
until after twenty twenty four. But I would certainly put
them on the board to take one this year, maybe
red shirt that player behind Russell for a year and
and then have that that kid, whoever it is, either
starter in twenty twenty five. And here's the thing. And
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you know, Brady, because you know you're there every week,
you you know this better than me. But it feels
like even beyond Caleb Williams and Drake May, there's some
real depths building in this year's quarterback class, you know,
with you know, guys like JJ McCarthy and Quinn Ewers
and Michael Panix and Bo Knicks, and so it looks
like it may be more than just two guys, which
you know, I think opens up possibilities for a team
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like Denver to look at the idea of drafting one high.
So I would certainly expect that, you know, the Broncos
scouting staff is going to be looking hard at the
quarterbacks and be on them to have to have boots
on the ground with you know, some of the the
draft quarterbacks for twenty twenty four over the next month
and a half as the college season draws to a close,
and you know, I think Russell Wilson's feature there is
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still really up in the air. You know, even though
he has played better, you know, I don't think that's
really even arguable. He has played better this year than
he did last year, and he has I think followed
the direction of Sean Payton trying to resurrect his career.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
AB You're You and your mail Bag had one of
the topics of mid season firings, and I know we're
talking about maybe possible fire sales with the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Uh Is is.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Sean Payton one of those names that could actually be
on that list? And who would be the highest on
that list?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
No, I mean, I know Sean Payton's Sean Payton's a
guy there, and Sean Payton will be the guy that
I mean, I think Russell Wilson's gone before Sean Payton is,
you know, so I would say no to that, you know.
I like, as far as the guys who could be,
you know, in the crosshairs in mid season, I think
the one we all kind of came into the season
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looking at was Ron Rivera because there's new ownership there,
because maybe you want to take a test drive with
there at the enemy, you know, so that'd be the
one that I think, you know, if things go really
really bad over the next month or two, just by
virtue of them having a new owner, you could maybe
see that potentially happening. And you know, we've seen that
in the past. You know, if you go back and
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you look like, you know, in twenty eleven or twenty ten,
that happened twice. You know, if the Cowboys moving on
from White Pelves to go to Jason Garrett and the
Vikings moving on from bat Childers to go to Leslie Fraser,
both those franchises wanted to see what it looked like
with a guy in their staff. So you know, certainly,
I think like if the Commanders were to really fall
(37:48):
apart over the next month month and a half, maybe
that could happen. But I think they've played well enough
where where Ron's bought himself the rest of the year,
as long as they keep playing as well as they
have to this point.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. So listen, I'm not trying
to put you in an uncomfortable spot, Albert. I know
you vacation in Nantucket with you know, Bill Belichick and
Bob Kraft.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
But how's this going to end up?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Because it feels like the Patriots not only are they bad,
but they're worse than I think anybody expected them to be.
What do you think the ending of this look like?
Speaker 7 (38:24):
I'm the bottom line is one of the worst rosters
in the league. And I don't say that lightly. I mean,
if you look at the roster, maybe you guys can
answer this for me. Can you can you name a
single player in the roster you think would be there
in five years?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Right like, maybe Christian and Zalez and he's been there
for ten minutes, right like? That might be the only
guy in their roster. So you know, I think this
is this is something that's really bothers Robert Kraft. He's
brought up the draft repeatedly publicly over the last couple
of years. How he feels like they need to draft better.
They don't have a lot of young talent in the roster.
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And you know, it's worse about this isn't like so
much just getting beat the way they've gotten beat over
the last two weeks, which is obviously embarrassing for everybody there.
It's that there isn't a light at the end of
the tunnel, like if you had you know, if this
is happening to the Texans and they have CJ. Stratton there,
it's like, Okay, so there are some bumps that we're
going through, you know what I mean, Like, but but
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we'll get there. You know, the colts of Anthony Richardson.
There's no like, there's no like light at the end
of the tunnel right now. And I think that's the
scary thing for everybody in that building. And so, you know,
do I think Robert Kraft would fire Bill Belichick. I
don't think he wants to, you know, I think he'd
much rather have some sort of you know, solution to this.
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And my my feeling would be, if it keeps going
the way that it's going, I don't know if he'd
fire Bill, but like I think that there's a very
small chance that Bill would walk away from like the
sourt of season, it looks like they're about to have
with the personnel power, and then the question becomes, Okay,
so Robert Kraft says, we're going to hire a GM,
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and we're going to have that GM report to me. Bill,
you're not going to report to the GM, but the
GM is also not going to report to you. Would
Bill be willing to stay under those circumstances, especially with
him being as close to the Shule record as he is.
If this keeps going the way as going, guys, if
it doesn't look good this weekend against the Raiders, if
it keeps going this way through November and December, I mean,
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he's setting up for a very very awkward set of
discussions between the owner and the head coach of the
last twenty four years.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
By the way, Josh McDaniels two to zero versus Bill
Belichick previous sentence, so does have a bit of an
edge there. We kind of played this in there out
yesterday talking about I'm just curious to get your thoughts.
If the season does go as poorly as it at
least has so far, and the Patriots are in a
position to draft potentially another first round quarterback, but Kraft
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wants that to be another general manager. You don't think
Bill Belichick would want to hang around with the potential
of having another guy in there at quarterback that maybe
is a little bit more talent and all that, and
no knock on Mac Jones, but the reality was, you know,
they took him the middle of the first round. There's
a chance, at least as of today, they'd be drafting
number five overall. Maybe that improves over the course of
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the next you know, a few weeks as the season
goes on. If they don't turn this thing around, you
don't think you'd want to stay around to see that,
as opposed to going somewhere else and starting over.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
I think it's it's a tough it's a tough thing,
you know what I mean, Because I think as far
as like his option somewhere else, he has things so
turnkey in New England, Brady, like I mean, like he
can still do the things that like a seventy year
old would want to do in their life, you know,
at that point in their life, and coach football.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Well, I mean like pickle ball and stuff or like
what are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Yeah, well, I mean like I mean like going down
to Barbados on the first day of free agency is
what I mean, right, Like it's like he can do
things because he's got the operation so wired and because
he's been there so much his operation, you know, like
that you can do different You can do those things
if you go somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
And I thought you meant like him going to the
villages and like hanging out with other people closer in
age dead.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
I thought you meant that that me like that, like yeah,
like the pickleball where yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Like they're playing golf and they have like their early
for its special at four thirty pm for dinner.
Speaker 7 (42:19):
I won't tell you which golf course, but he does
live on a golf course, so he does have that
part of it covered, you know. I like I I
you know, I do think that there's that part of
it though, Bray, Like it's like if it's so certainty
that like you're able to kind of balance stuff like
where you can do that, it's a lot different deal
than having to go somewhere and just start from ground zero.
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And I think like if there's opportunity for him elsewhere,
it probably wouldn't be with all the power that he
has in New England. Right, it would either be in
like that Bill Parcells role that like Bill had in
in Miami or what Mike holme Grim was in Cleveland
for a time. Right, Either be that or it'd be
just a coach. I don't know that anybody would give
him everything the way that he has everything in New England.
So if they're going to take some of that away
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from him in New England, then he's gonna have a
decision to make. And would he be okay if they
brought in, say like John Robinson, you know who who
learned from Bill and who grew up in the Patriots system.
If they brought in John Robinson said, Jay Rob's going
to be your general manager. J Rob's gonna have personnel
power here and you're going to work with him. Would
he be okay with that? Maybe he would be. I'm
(43:24):
just not sure. I don't know. I mean, after you've
done things one way for such a long time, and
after you know, the way that he saw his old boss,
Bill Parcells, really enter into a weird situation with the
same owner in New England where it blew up after
a year. Would he want to do? That's that's the
question I can't answer. I'm not sure, but I do
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think that the Shool record being out there for him,
and the potential to get a young quarterback in there
to go and get that record and leave the place
in good shape and have you know, his sons around
with him on the staff for another year or two,
I think that that would all appeal to him.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Okay, abe, I'm gonna switch I'm gonna switch lanes on
you and go college. Where where are you at with
your buck guys today? How are you fitting?
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I don't know where they're at.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
I don't know if we're going to be able to
block your defensive front LeVar in about nine days, so
I'm a little worried about that. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Do you think you'll be able to defense us?
Speaker 7 (44:24):
I think so, I said we can, right like, I
think the Ohio defense can can go toe to toe
with the Penn State offense. I'm a little worried about
our offensive line.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I'll just say, well, I mean, especially if they got
to play in like a twenty yard box because apparently,
based on some reporters questions that James Franklin Pennon State
doesn't like to just chuck the ball down the field.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
That was great at any cost, no matter what.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
At any cost, no matter.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
What, Like I I don't even know, I'm boiling thinking.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
It's making my skin crawl, like literally coming out.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It was the nicest most insult thing response to a
question that I've ever heard.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Oh, Like, having been in those situations, though, you could tell, like, honestly,
you could tell he has a relationship with that reporter
because like this is the way that back and forth happened.
You could tell he was like it was like one
of these all right, buddy, like I'm gonna I'm gonna
show you where on that on this, So you could
tell like that wasn't just some reporter who's never around.
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Is a guy that he had a relationship with.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, Albert, we got to ask you because I
don't think we've done this this year, but you know
people have been begging for this and the return of this.
Do you think we got about thirty seconds left? Do
you think that Ohio State is going to be I
don't know, like nineteen nineteen and a half points better
than Purdue this weekend?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Do you think that could possibly take?
Speaker 7 (45:46):
And I think it's just good that we're bringing this back.
I do think this weekend I looked pretty good.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Okay, so I'm gonna say yet, Oh, not a trap, Jim.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
Although although a lot of bad things. I mean, I
don't know how aware you guys are about what a
house of horrors that is and how weird stuff happens there.
Like West Loftiet is like a lot of weird stuff
happens at that place.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
So what happened to you in college, Albert? What happened
when you went there and visited?
Speaker 7 (46:13):
You know? You know about that?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Right oh yourself?
Speaker 7 (46:17):
You know about you know about that. So like when
I was in college, Ohio we were a like Ohio
State wasn't very good when I was in college. It
was probably the like I was there for probably the
worst three year stretch. I graduated. They win the national title.
And so my junior year in college, Ohio State controlled
the whole game against Produce Is John Cooper's last year,
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probably one of his last teams as head coaches the
two two thousand and Drew Brees beat us on an
eighty five yard touchdown pass I believe it was Taylor Stubblefield,
you might have you might know this. I think it
was Taylor Stubblefield on the other side of it. Eighty
five yard touchdown pass. Yeah, so so yeah, I mean
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when I was when I was there, believe it or not,
Like the Drew Brees was the quarterback at Purdue, Tom
Brady was the quarterback at Michigan, and Ron Dane was
actually the conference player of the year in the Heisman
winner when those two guys were the starters together at
their school. So it's a good time in the conference.
But yeah, Purdue, like West Offiett, has been like all
(47:20):
like for all the teams, like Michigan, Ohio State, like
I think Penn State has has had some weird stuff
happened there too, of our like it's just weird.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
We've never had a problem with Purdue.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah, we've had problems with you and Michigan, but never
would Purdue.
Speaker 7 (47:37):
Never would Purdue. Okay, I know the Michigan and Ohio
State for I mean, Michigan and Ohio State has some
real problems. It's not it's specifically at Purdue. It's not.
It's fine when Purdue comes to you it's when you
have to go a lot west Offiete that there's a problem.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
I would agree with.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Well, I got my card up.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I agree with that, Albert.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
We love Avenue every single Thursday, and of course next
Thursday is going to be a fun one as we
look ahead, do Penn State or Iowa State at Albert
Breer on Twitter, our senior NFL reporter at the MMQ.
Speaker 7 (48:05):
Forgot the mess. Brady's going home this weekend too.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, of course he is.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I'm already here, buddy, I'm already here.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Of course he is God's Country.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
Going to the linebacker that I told you like that
was never a spot. We have memories because that was
the coaches.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (48:20):
Wait did you end up going Brady?
Speaker 7 (48:22):
Brady gave me I'm gonna get Brady credit. Like Brady
gave me phenomenal advice for where I should go in
South End, and uh, I'd agree.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
Wait, what did I tell you about the linebacker?
Speaker 7 (48:33):
I mean you told me that like I can't move
with it?
Speaker 6 (48:36):
You said you said.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Something I said, if you drop something on the ground,
you leave it. Because that sept flooring has never been
clean to replaced in the past four decades.
Speaker 7 (48:47):
Which is like my type of place. I couldn't when
he said that to me, I couldn't get there fast enough.
And uh and it was like one of those places
where it's like a time warp to the eighties. It
was phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, well listen, Albert, it's gonna be fun next week,
so we'll do it again then. He is Albert Breers,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. Always a good time
here on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Thanks ab, all right, thanks guys. That's one
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Arings rating Win and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Thursday morning,
Good morning, sir, Week six of the NFL.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Already here all right, flying by? So exciting? Yeah it is?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah me listen, this is the good stuff. This is
what we're all excited. Is this the good stuff?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah? Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're gonna get the defending Super Bowl champions on national
TV they or excuse me, on my Prime video to
national champs, the defending super Bowl champions, super Bowl champs.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The Kansas City Chiefs. They're going to be hosting the
Denver Bronx.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
They really are.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
And it's funny though our rundown doesn't have that matchup.
We have a different matchup on the Rundown.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, I just.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
It's funny, but I notice, Yeah, it's pretty cool. Well,
I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
The Kansas City Chiefs are an eleven point favorite as
it stands right now hosting those Denver Broncos, which I
don't know if anybody had that in the cards when
it came to what Denver could look like this year
with Sean Payton. But this is an eleven point favorite
in terms of Kansas City, and it, at least on paper,
appears to be potentially another wipeout in front of a
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huge audience.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
So do you guys know the last team that had
this sort of winning streak versus divisional opponent?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I'm asking, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
The Niners in the Rams. They they've beaten God who?
And then who is the other team? We just talked
about him earlier this year? The Patriots.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Niners have beaten the Rams like ten straight times.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Patriots above saying what did surpassed this one?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Patriots and Jets is the closest.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think they just got to fifteen and Kansas City's
beaten Denver fifteenth straight.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
OK, So that's not really answering the question.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, well, I mean I didn't hap it off the
top of my head. I was trying to check on
the right down. I don't either stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
I just I figured maybe we'd have some stat or
with Lee would know, or someone would know.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, Sam knows, Yeah, I mean who cares? Oh, oh,
Coop knows. Coop knows, Go ahead, tell them Coop. Miami
Dolphins over the Buffalo Bills. Twenty game win streak fro
nineteen seventy to nineteen eighty. Oh wow, well done, Custi,
Cooper and Cooper.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
Why would we know that unless you just saw it somewhere?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Was that I didn't have my hand?
Speaker 7 (02:37):
Why?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Why would you know that? Coop? How would you know that?
Was that part of a stat on Ben Show?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I googled it really quick? Okay, well listen, now that's quick.
Google it too.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Because you came so quick, Coop?
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Could you teach Lee to google that fast?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Oh wow? Well, I'm sitting in Lee's seat right now.
Lee was helping me.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Okay, so you're basically saying, type as fast as you or.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
What you had to go get some paper towels.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I'm just saying, I'm I'm finishing up some post production.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So it's just, you know, thanks Lee. It could be
that LEAs you searches, other things pop up as he
goes to type.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
Let it just Coop so much faster. I don't get it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Coop was quick.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well, I could have jumped in and acted like I
was like this all knowing dude, you know he's got
he came in quick. I'll tell you that I could
have threw it out there, But I don't want to
take that. You got it, Coop, you got it. It
was really good.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yelled it from the kitchen. Oh okay, yeah see Lee
yelled it from.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
The I got you. He was helping me out.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Which is a possibility.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
There could be a uh what are they called a
vagrant walk in the uh walk in the area at
this time of night, it is, it is potential out here.
How do you lose to a team in the division
fifteen straight times?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
How's that happen?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It feels like, well, divisional game, you're familiar, fifteen straight time?
Denver Broncos of loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. The
last time they beat him was twenty fifteen and week
two when Peyton Manning was there.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
That was their Super Bowl year.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
If I had to bet, how many head coaches have
the Broncos had between now and then?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And see that was how many?
Speaker 6 (04:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Well Kubiak then obviously he stepped down, retired. Maybe he
saw the running was on the wall, didn't want to
deal with whatever was coming next. But think about how
many head coaches they've had, changes their general manager, and
like that's going to start to give you the tea
leaves as to how this happens because divisional opponents, for
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the most part, they're built to kind of beat each other,
like you're built your roster to beat to win your division.
If you can win your division, you get a home
playoff game. If you win the conference, you get home
playoff you know, road, the entire way. But that's how
it has to start, is you have to win your
division first. And usually when you've got a roster that
had different coaches coaching it, different general managers selecting players
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to fit different schemes and what they think is good
or you know whatever, that usually impacts their ability to
consistently compete with an advision. So I would I would
look at it and say, Okay, yeah, Sean Payton this year,
Hacket before that, Fangio before that was Fangio after.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Kobiak Advance, Joseph Vance.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Joseph Vance, Joseph was there, who's now by the way
back as their defensive coordinator.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Ye, that's like going.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
A little uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, maybe maybe he's trying to sabotage his second time
around the way things went the.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
First time around?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Is that your conspiracy?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Listen, I'm not ready to I got to work on
that a little bit. I need to add a little
bit more depth to that conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
But that could be a possibility.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Is that like Johnny Depth.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, the world famous porn star Johnny Depth. But I
just fIF Johnny d for sure, like fifteen straight times
at some at some point, you think you'd get one
during that course of time.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
There's a lot going on there.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And this wasn't always just the Patrick Mahomes era. Alex
Smith was there, like, this wasn't just because well they've
got Mahomes they got an all time great. It just
I feel like at some point you would get them
once and these.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Guys do realize though it does set the stage for
a massive victory like Kansas City wins. Nobody cares, doesn't matter,
like you expected them to win eleven point point spread,
like nobody cares. But if the Broncos win, then the
Broncos have a feel good story. They break the streak.
(06:44):
Maybe they're getting things back together. I mean, can you
accidentally I know you can lose games in the league.
I know you can have like kind of like I
don't I would not even call this a trap game
for Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
What I would label it as if they were to
lose to Denver tonight. But if they were to lose
to Denver, how do we categorize this win for Denver?
That's the question I would like, because they have nothing
to lose. Everybody expects them to lose and big yeah right,
so okay, so if they win, how do we talk
(07:23):
Is there any way that they can win where we
come out of the game talking about them as Okay,
they're back on track, or there's the Sean Payton and
the you know, the Denver Broncos we've been looking for,
Like what what is the narrative coming out of this game?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Well, I think if their defense was good, that would
be helpful. Like seeing their defense shut down Kansas City
and Patrick Mahomes, that'd be a step in the right direction.
I mean, I don't care what they do this week, right,
if they win, great, If they don't the following it's
a fluke, or you just say, oh, it's.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
A short week.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
You know, anything can happen, like that's what you chock
it up to, Like it's not going to take one
win for them to convince people.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
It's going to take multiple or even the.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Fact that Look, they play each other two out of
the next three weeks, So if somehow Denver swept Kansas City,
then I think it would change the narrative. Then I
think you get people who go, maybe this thing in
Denver starting to turn around, you know, maybe they're starting
to figure this thing out.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
They're able to beat the Chiefs twice in two or
three weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, I mean, Patrick Mahomes is, you know, being very kind.
He spoke about the matchup against the Denver Broncos in
preparation for Thursday's game, which, by the way, Travis Kelsey
is listed as questionable with that ankle injury. But Patrick
Mahomes did give a little bit of love and respect
to a divisional opponent as they get ready for this
game later on tonight.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
When you play a team like the Broncos, same with
any division opponent, there's just another level of intensity. So
I'm not worried about necessarily a streak or anything like that.
I'm worried about winning against a division opponent. And I know,
just as I think everyone this locker room knows that
it's kind of it doesn't matter what the records are,
it's gonna be a close game. It's gonna be a
hard fought battle. Both teams won't give everything they have,
and so that's just the history of the matchup. And
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so that's that's the thing with me. It's not about
the street. It's about going out there to find a
way to win against a division opponent, a tough on battle.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Now, do you think he also knows that the Miami
Dolphins put up seventy against this defense a couple of
weeks ago?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
You think that also came up in.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Conversations, because I would imagine there's probably you.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Know a little bit anything you can do, I can
do better.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
I'm saying Tyreek Hill lit him up, and maybe he's
looking like, Okay, well if he can, if he can pull.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Now can't Let's let me see if we can, we
can make this happen.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I mean, do you really think they're going to try
to put seventy five up on them seventy.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Two break the record.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
No, they'll be respectful, they'll shut it down. Yeah, they'll
shut it down. Well, they got bigger goals. They're not
trying to put up seventy against the Denver Broncos. But
and and it would be hard to do again, I
just can't imagine in.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Disrespect that that there will be when you see that
Chelsea's not going to play. Maybe plays, but what if
they don't play? Would you be surprised or shocked if
they They're like, you know what, Travis, take this game
off like we don't we don't need. Yeah, we don't need.
I mean, take the rest. He's gonna have a friend.
(10:17):
I mean I might, I might treat this like a
preseason game if I'm I might try to use this
as as an extra bye week if I'm the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
Wow, that's just straight disrespect.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Now he is gonna Travis Kelsey is going to have
a friend. Uh, hey, you get a rest this week.
You get the rest this week. You everyone gets the
rest this week?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Why not your your girl? Uh? T Swift is going
to be in attendance for this is going to be there,
be there.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah, is coming true. Hey everyone gets a butt at the.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Apple Yeah, Amazon Primes Amaze.
Speaker 7 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And then we'll eventually get it to who's left out? CBS?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Oh yeah, CBS hasn't gotten it yet.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
But CBS. I think that next week's game is that
a CBS.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Game versus Chargers.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Probably, I think so yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
I'm telling you there, everyone gets a bite at the apple.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Let me where's the game at?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Is it in Denver, Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
All right?
Speaker 6 (11:19):
By the way, supposed to be windy and maybe potentially rainy?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Do you guys think Sierra would be there?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
And if for some strange reason they happen to show Sierra, do.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
You think of Serra or Ciarra? Up this Sierra? Kind of?
It was like, Sierra's.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Spelled sar you could you could, you could say it
it's spelled that way, but it's Sierra. So if they
show you like a dance off, he mean sing off,
dance off, wave off, fan off, like popularity off, something off, Sierra.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Isn't a compet didn't like bring it on and all that? Right?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Who am I thinking that? That was Wade's wife? Who's
Wade's wife? Dwayne? You can she bring it on?
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I'm just trying to say, can you kind of see that?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
I mean, but Sierra can flipping dance, She can dance,
and she knows how to get in and out of
bags at the White.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
House yard, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
She'll kick her heels off, she'll want she hadn't afraid
to kick her heels off to catch the pass from
her man.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
And getting them drills real real good.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yeah, maybe maybe there's a skills challenge on the field
between Sierra and Taylor Swift at one of the breaks.
I mean, that would be more interesting to me than
the game. I actually, I actually would be more interested
in that than the game. Like let's see who's faster,
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or let's see who could get through these these bags.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
You know, let's se who could catch the ball. Yeah,
but I feel like in a dance off, Taylor Swift
doesn't you know, that's a lot of her weight class.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I mean, let's figure fure out how to make it fair.
They would need to make it fair. I mean, come on, like,
spin on the bet, go around to bet like ten
times before you go do it, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Mean yeah, come on, yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Yeah, that could do it, right, I mean yeah, I
would be all in on that. I'm just telling y'all,
I'm more of a football.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Guy and not my thing. I'm a football guy too,
But if they got.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
That would have been the wrong choice of words at
that point. If they're going to force if they're going
to force this upon us, I just want to if
that happens.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I just want to see I want a still shot
of al Michaels and the look on his face that
jump would be.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Just just good thinking to him.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
He might be enjoying it, though I went from I
went from Sunday Night football to this this and and
just the fact that he could not contain himself from
making a comment about it. Some disparaging remark about either
her or Taylor Swift would be fantastic, But nonetheless, the
fact that that's even a storyline going into this game
means that Denver's probably gonna get their ass what later
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on tonight, and then everybody's going to get to see you, well,
you know, the awful Broncos on a standalone stage.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Can I give you my assessment of this betting line?
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Like this is.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
How I actually look at bets like this, when there's
huge lines and divisional matchups, which I just the game's
gonna be close, and you think that both they both
were last year so and we thought they were disaster
last year, like their defense is bad this year. We're
not calling this team a disaster because their offense isn't
that bad. So when you have a big line like this,
I look at it, and I just say, all right,
(14:36):
I'm going to lay the eleven points, because if I
took the eleven points and Denver ended up getting blown out,
I would feel like a worse idiot than if I
lay the eleven points and then Denver keeps it close.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
So I'm literally.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
Already planning on how I'm gonna feel after I lose
this bet and which way I'm gonna feel worse. So
that's all I'm playing it. I'm gonna lay the eleven
points because I won't feel quite as dumb when the
Denver Broncos keep us closed.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
That's a really negative handicap, I'll be honest with you,
isn't it.
Speaker 6 (15:09):
But like that's like, that's how I look at betting.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Like I'm one of those people who, if you're gonna bet,
I get more. I feel worse from losing than I
do from the high of winning.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'm so used to it that I just it just
kind of rolls off my back at this point, Oh,
I lost again, or you lose a lot, And plus it.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Does hurt more than winning. And the fact that more times, and.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
The fact that the Broncos a lot, the fact that
the fact the Broncos are getting eleven points, like if
they go up, say fourteen to three. Now they're up
twenty two, and at that point, then I start going
to the well and I start in game betting live.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Betting, if you will, because I got to make that money. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So that's why I don't even I just consider, Okay,
it's a loss. They're already down twenty plus points. Let
me go in here and see what I can do. Oh,
look at this, six minutes left in the second quarter.
There's a point in total on the Chiefs. Will they
score over twelve and a half points this half? There's
things like that.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
You can get in there.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
One get craft challenge yourself. Yeah, because when you lose
a lot, you have to look for options to try
and figure it out, solution to.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Figure out how to be a winner. Yep, Okay that's
how it is.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
So are you a winner if you get one bet
to hit even if you've lost like ten before, Yeah,
you're still a winner. Yeah, because you're judged off of
your last win for your last your last result.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
See bang, which.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Look look at Kurt Warner. He went to three Super
Bowls only one one though? Really yeah, only one? But
you know what Hall of Famer and a great movie
that Bradley three that Brady highly recommends.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
I kind of watched it. Yeah, I kind of watched it. Yeah,
I didn't finish it, but I did kind of. I
kind of watched it. Well, that's probably I didn't finish it.
I was on a plane and never said that I
could find another movie that I wanted to watch.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I was like, I'll give it a go.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
And then once they were square dance and once they
got out of the square dance in part I don't
even think I made it to him playing football in
the movie.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I kind of went to sleep. Yeah, yeah, I took himnap,
probably better for it.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I'm gonna watch it though it's still it's still on
like demnd It's like it's on there, it's on, you know,
I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna stream it. I'm probably
gonna miss that, shouts out the Kurt Warner man. Kurt,
it's a good dude.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Man. You ever shirt you ever meet him?
Speaker 4 (17:25):
No, he's a good dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Kurt's good
people man.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
So we've got Thursday and at football kicking off later
on tonight. It will kick off Week six in the NFL.
As pointed out earlier on the show, the odds for
this game clearly indicate the Kansas City and each Thiefs
are expected to take care of business when it comes
to the Denver Broncos for a sixteenth straight time.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
They are an eleven point favorite and have not lost
to Denver since September of twenty fifteen. Now, Travis Kelcey
is questionable for this game, right, we know that Taylor
Swift is going to be there?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Whoopee?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Do how do we know Taylor Swift? Where's the reports
that confirm she's going to be there?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
TMZ and they're never wrong?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Is that the report though that you're reading?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, that she's going to be traveling to the game.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Did you say this or did Lee?
Speaker 7 (18:33):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I saw it?
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Oh, okay, yeah, I mean it wouldn't matter even if Lisa.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm just curious, why what are you doubting the credibility
of Lee's I.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Didn't doubt any credibility. That's why I said that it
wouldn't have mattered. I just was curious. I couldn't remember
who said it. If it was Lee, you or maybe
LeVar No.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Would maybe LeVar Well, you know, they do say if
you want to get they do say if you want
to get a confromation.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Of this conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I am, but I mean it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I'm just saying, if you want to get confirmation,
you need to have a double sourced. So I'm reporting
that point.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
With Jackson that first that it was all over from
there like ever since then, their credibility is.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Through the seialing.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now, Lee, are you seeing the same report that Taylor
Swift is going to be in attendance?
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I am seeing that report front TMZ.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So basically, for you go for you losers who can
enjoy a football game without seeing Taylor Swift, You're you're
in good hands because Amazon Primes got you covered later
on tonight. So have fun with that, losers. While everybody
feasts on Taylor Swift. Cinda ways, even though we gambled
on it last segment, But Travis Kelsey being questionable. I
got to ask a question here, so.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Good question coming. Here's a good question.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
He turns his ankle or rolls his ankle last week
in Minnesota, seemed very upset.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Thank you all right?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
So what happened at halftime to which he came out
and played pretty well and kint a touchdown pass?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
How did that go?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Stick that thing in the booty cheek, put the band
aid on it, put a nice little tape job on it,
and you keep going.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
So why can't he do that before tonight's game?
Speaker 6 (20:10):
We can?
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Would Your question is that's the question? Do you recommend it?
Is there a reason for him to do it? I
don't think there's a reason for him to have to
get a turtle shot and tape up his ankle and
go out there and give it a go.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You don't need him for this one. What do them
to do like pay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, no, go out there and look cute so they
can do cutaways of you on the sideline, chewing gum
or eating some flower seeds, spit them in. You know,
it's it's not feasible to spit them on the ground anymore,
so you spit it in another cup and then they'll
cut away from him to Taylor Swift, and then they'll
talk about Taylor Swift and then they'll talk about you know, Kelsey.
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They'll go back to Travis on the sideline talk about
him some more, and then between they'll have like a
small box, you know how they have the small boxes
up in the corner. They'll be showing the game in
the small box. They won't be showing Travis Kelsey Taylor
Swift in the small box in the corner while the
game and the plays are going on. They're going to
show the game in the small box and Taylor and
(21:10):
Travis will be on the big screen.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'm so tired of it.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
It's going to be a Travis and Taylor TN T
You know, you know what happens when you get t
and T.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Right, what's that blows up?
Speaker 6 (21:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I just I want my football back and I want
to know, like I'm more I'm more interested in, like
what is that conversation like when it comes to tour
it all? Do you just give the doctor the look
and say you know what to do? Or does he
tell you, Well, this could be a side effect. You're
going to feel like crap in four hours. It may
get you through this game, But like, what is that conversation?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Like, oh, you don't remember any given sunday. You know
my man went up in there. He's like top unplugged me. Yeah,
it's Latimer. That was Latimer. You know, I need some
some bins of cream and and some that I die.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
That's juice, right, that's Royd's tour.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
It all just numbsy. I think he think he wanted
some pain killers. He was hurting in that any given sunday,
you know his his role. How's it happened to you?
Tell us how how's what?
Speaker 3 (22:09):
How do you get?
Speaker 6 (22:10):
I don't take that stuff?
Speaker 4 (22:11):
How do you get to the tort all? You don't
get You've never got a tort all shot?
Speaker 5 (22:15):
No, I've gotten to all before. I mean usually you
just fall a live. You just the log line and
you're like, oh that's must wait, I all stand there.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
That is that really?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Not true?
Speaker 3 (22:29):
What you hear for.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You?
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Literally, it's not like that. That's not the equipment room,
that's not the trainer, Like, no, that's the dock. He's
giving you a tort all shot. He's there in this locker.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
You are right about that, And it's always at the
back of the trail room, like guys are like putting
being gay on and like all kinds of different stuff
be going on in the in the in the training room,
but it's always in the back of the train in
the room.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
I do miss the smells of a locker room, not
not locker room training the trainers like you get that,
like Tiger Bomb Ben getting like all those like all
the old guys trying to make sure they're loose, you know,
and getting all that stuff, all the different smells.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, that's that's I do miss those those moments too.
You sit on the on the treatment tables and everybody's
sharing war stories and laughing about different things, and yeah,
yeah that I missed that part a lot, I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
And then they pull out this javelin and sticking in
your joints.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh no, now torn tortoll needles are are decent, they're normal.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Now.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
If you ever had to get drained, now that is
a traumatic experience, my friend, you have.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Doesn't it feel better afterwards?
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Though?
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, it does feel better afterwards. But it is the worst.
And when I say it's the worst, I mean it
is the worst. The syringe size on on everything. If
you're out here, if you're listening to me right now,
take a look at your pinky finger. That's how big
the syringe is. I don't care how big your fing
(24:13):
pinky finger is, and relating to somebody else's, it's somewhere
around that size. And the whole of the syringe is
that big. I can recall what they put it. Like
they were draining my knee and they put like they
got to put it like in like the what is it,
like the burst's sack or the like, like where all
(24:34):
the fluid is building up, and I'm like, there's no
way a needle that long is going to fit in
that space you're pointing it at right now.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
It's just bit blood and puss.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
Blood.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, blood, listen, I remember that's what that's that.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
That's the noise my body made when they stuck that
thing in my knee.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Ude.
Speaker 5 (25:00):
I remember halftime my senior year, had a long run
versus SC and Southern Cow and I got tackled like dad.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
Inside the ten or something, and I remember.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
The way my knee hit it literally like I knew
right when I hit, I was like, oh, I was
like that's not good, Like something's it kind of whipped
around when I got hit and like hit the ground.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
I got up, man, and that bad boy.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
It was actually kind of like a crazy moment because
you don't think your body can do that.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
You're like, oh my god, where's my knee?
Speaker 5 (25:31):
Looks gigantic and so like I tried to put a
sleeve over all this up. They're like, hey, well, off
the drain and halftime. I'm like, what's wrong? What's going
on with me? So we go in and they pull
out that needle, like he's talking about well and Charlie
Weiss was our head coach at the time.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
He's like trying to find me.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
He's like, where the f is Quinn And he walks
in the training room and they've got this gigantic needle
they're jabbing into my knee, looks at me, looks at
the needle.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
It was like, h oh, all.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Right, and it just walked out like like they drained
it for the next like ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
It's big enough to you almost pass out. Man.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
He didn't say a word to me until I got
back out in the field and he's like, what do
you feel like you can do? I was like, let's
just try to do whatever you want and then I'll
tell you what I can't.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Because that's a grown man ish.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
You see that big ass needle going in somebody else's body,
You know that, dude?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Is it tile to like settle down too, because people
don't realize if, like if I bumped into something, that
knee would swell right back up. Like I couldn't practice
for like a couple of weeks afterwards. We had finals
and all that before a bowl game. But I barely
practiced before the Sugar Bowl that year, Like we didn't
tell anyone that, but I had to get it, like
all the inflammation calmed down before I could even go
(26:46):
back out there and practice, which that was hard to do.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So it filled.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
They gotta numb you up first, like that syringe is
so big. They gotta pre pre stick you, so they
stick you with like nova caine or whatever, light acane
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
And so how long before halftime do you suffer the injuries?
It was under what like you were inside the red zone?
Was it like a couple of minutes left in the
first half?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
And I don't remember, I mean, I know it was
a long run. It was like a sixty yard run.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
And then after that, I think Darius had I handled
the ball off like the next plan. I think he
fumbled and then usc recovered. So I can't remember exactly
what portion of the game it was, but I know
it was in the first half.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
I think it was. Man, I can't remember it was
first quarter or second quarter?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Yeah, that and so it filled up that quick that
they were like, all right, we know what to do
and just pumped you.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Pumped you with that needle and drained. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I mean, look, it made me feel better. They looked
at it and they were like, oh, okay, we know what
to do. I'm like, oh, thank god, because I'm looking
at like, like, am I bleeding out? Like is this
what it looks like? Your body just fills up with
blood or something like? It was the weirdest thing.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Well, listen, I don't know if Travis Kelsey's going through
all that, but he is questionable. So maybe, uh, you know,
about an hour before kickoff, you break out the the
feel good javelin, throw it in.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Him feel good javelin.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Next thing you know, he's out there playing and now
we have to start questioning our under what was it
sixty six and a half yards on the Travis Kelsey
bet that was the underleave. Yeah, so under sixty six
and a half yards that some of us took on
Travis Brady and I took the under Labar took the over.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
So ten nineteen left in the second after Brady's sixty
yard run.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So you played another ten minutes on that bum wheel, geez,
only to have him and on that bum wheel. Let
me tell you something. That's that's called putting it together.
That's called getting it done under the circumstances, and then
you get it drained at halftime.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Man, oh man, I bet.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
You we looked like sweet sweet d Willie out there
for that ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
His pimp.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
It was you had a pimp. You had a pimp, limp.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
MGNI over here over here. So you know what we did.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
We put on a neopren's sleeve to try to cover
it up to blend in with my skin tone, thinking
like no one would know.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
They knew that it looked like it looked like a
prosthetic limb. Quinn's hurt, Man, Hi, check check Quinn's hurt.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
He's hurt.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Look at it left flat, left flat?
Speaker 2 (29:22):
And by the way, was was that was that the
game at the coliseum. That was your that was your
senior year, right, you played it senior year? Okay us, yeah, okay.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
At the callie they say they call it.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Do you want to know a funny story about that.
It's just kind of weird how this all ties together.
So I actually almost called the second half kickoff of
that game. I entered a radio contest locally in l
A nice to try and and and if you, if
you did the best play by play call you would
you would get to announce the second half kickoff of
(29:56):
the USC Notre Dame game that year. And I ended
up finished runner up to some guy, but they brought
us on to Colin Cowhard's show and they announced the
winner on the air. Was that like it was at
the daven Busters near your place, labar in uh Arcadia?
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Oh arcadey? I need to raise that right next to yes.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So I I almost got to call the second half
kickoff of Brady Quinn's return to action after getting the
javelin shoved in his knee because he hurt his knee
the first half.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
That wasn't a javelin, that was something of another that
was like an oil drill, not that. Yeah, it wasn't, but.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It all ties together. Look see we eventually got tavelin
is tourt all that other thing that's like, that's bruh,
that's traumatic, man. I can I can remember the sound.
I can remember what I was doing. I had a
lot of pressure on me. I had family members in there.
They're looking at me. I'm looking at them. They know
I don't like needles, so I'm starting to panic. This
(30:56):
is the biggest needle I've ever seen in my life.
What am I going to do? You gotts? How are
you afraid of needles? You got all those tattoos? That's weird.
It's not the same now it's not the same. Well, hey,
it's not the same In Denver. They're going to get
wiped out tonight, so good for.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Them, it is. So what if they win, though.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
No chance you might.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
There's a zero chance they went back game.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
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Speaker 2 (32:01):
We turned our guy, Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter at
the MMQB. You can get them on Twitter or x
or whatever they're calling it at Albert Breer, Albert Happy Thursday.
How we feeling.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
I'm good, I'm good. How you guys doing good?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Got to ask you if the Broncos go out tonight,
and the betting odds would say, and the history between
these two franchises would say that Denver is probably going
to get stomped out if they get beat badly tonight
and it's seen by all and everybody's watching and they
just see how awful they look this early in the season.
What sort of changes could we see to this franchise
(32:39):
over the next several weeks before the trade deadline.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Well, you know, I think we all know the effect
these standalone games can have sometimes and it can make
a loss feel like two losses, you know, So we'll
have a material effect internally, I don't know, but I
can tell you they've already started the process of shielding
phone calls on their own play players. And there are
players that I think would have value to other teams.
Speaker 8 (33:03):
Now.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
The prices right now are high. You know, in the offseason,
the price to start a conversation on Jerry Judy was
a first round pick. The price to start a conversation
on Courtland Sutton was a second round pick. I think
both those guys well, both those guys have already been
the subject of of incoming calls, and I think those
guys would become more available. Garrett Bowles on their offensive line,
(33:26):
another one who doesn't seem we're real happy with the
state of affairs. He could be available. On defense. Josie Jewel,
He's a really good, heady, tough linebacker for them. Justin
Simmons one of the best, you know, safeties in football
over the last five years or so. You know, those
guys I think could become available. And then you know,
like the big one would be Patrick Sartan. And I
(33:50):
can tell you, like, like I think it would take
a lot for them to move him, like multiple first
round picks a lot, but he's the most valuable asset
and do need pick. So yeah, I certainly think if
they take it on a chin tonight, then they'd be
open for business, even more so than they already are.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
Albert.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
If they do take it on the chin, I mean,
someone's going to.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Have to fall on the sword and take the blame.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
It doesn't look like they can really move on from
Russell's deal until maybe after twenty twenty four be a
little more palatable. But the way the season's going, maybe
Denver's in striking distance to get someone that would be
Sean Payton's hand pick. I mean, how do you foresee
this whole thing playing out? I know, again, the game's
got to be played. We have two in the next
three weeks, but how do you foresee this all playing
(34:38):
out in Denver?
Speaker 7 (34:39):
Yeah? I mean, I think Brady, like the one thing
that we do we should keep in mind, Russell's actually
been better than it was last year. I know it
sounds crazy because so much has gone wrong there, but
you know, I know internally they feel like he's been
a lot better than he was last year, and he's
sort of subjugated his ego and he's been quieter, and
you know, they're using him in the run game more.
He's been more willing in the one game. And so
(35:02):
I don't think Russell is necessarily a problem. The thing is,
he's also probably not part of Sehn Dayton's long term solution,
and so you're saying they can't get rid of them
until after twenty twenty four. But I would certainly put
them on the board to take one this year, maybe
red shirt that player behind Russell for a year and
and then have that that kid, whoever it is, either
starter in twenty twenty five. And here's the thing. And
(35:24):
you know, Brady, because you know you're there every week,
you you know this better than me. But it feels
like even beyond Caleb Williams and Drake May, there's some
real depths building in this year's quarterback class, you know,
with you know, guys like JJ McCarthy and Quinn Ewers
and Michael Panix and Bo Knicks, and so it looks
like it may be more than just two guys, which
you know, I think opens up possibilities for a team
(35:47):
like Denver to look at the idea of drafting one high.
So I would certainly expect that, you know, the Broncos
scouting staff is going to be looking hard at the
quarterbacks and be on them to have to have boots
on the ground with you know, some of the the
draft quarterbacks for twenty twenty four over the next month
and a half as the college season draws to a close,
and you know, I think Russell Wilson's feature there is
(36:08):
still really up in the air. You know, even though
he has played better, you know, I don't think that's
really even arguable. He has played better this year than
he did last year, and he has I think followed
the direction of Sean Payton trying to resurrect his career.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
AB You're You and your mail Bag had one of
the topics of mid season firings, and I know we're
talking about maybe possible fire sales with the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Uh Is is.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Sean Payton one of those names that could actually be
on that list? And who would be the highest on
that list?
Speaker 7 (36:43):
No, I mean, I know Sean Payton's Sean Payton's a
guy there, and Sean Payton will be the guy that
I mean, I think Russell Wilson's gone before Sean Payton is,
you know, so I would say no to that, you know.
I like, as far as the guys who could be,
you know, in the crosshairs in mid season, I think
the one we all kind of came into the season
(37:05):
looking at was Ron Rivera because there's new ownership there,
because maybe you want to take a test drive with
there at the enemy, you know, so that'd be the
one that I think, you know, if things go really
really bad over the next month or two, just by
virtue of them having a new owner, you could maybe
see that potentially happening. And you know, we've seen that
in the past. You know, if you go back and
(37:27):
you look like, you know, in twenty eleven or twenty ten,
that happened twice. You know, if the Cowboys moving on
from White Pelves to go to Jason Garrett and the
Vikings moving on from bat Childers to go to Leslie Fraser,
both those franchises wanted to see what it looked like
with a guy in their staff. So you know, certainly,
I think like if the Commanders were to really fall
(37:48):
apart over the next month month and a half, maybe
that could happen. But I think they've played well enough
where where Ron's bought himself the rest of the year,
as long as they keep playing as well as they
have to this point.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Albert Breers, senior NFL reporter at the MMQB, joining us
here on Fox Sports Radio. So listen, I'm not trying
to put you in an uncomfortable spot, Albert. I know
you vacation in Nantucket with you know, Bill Belichick and
Bob Kraft.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
But how's this going to end up?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Because it feels like the Patriots not only are they bad,
but they're worse than I think anybody expected them to be.
What do you think the ending of this look like?
Speaker 7 (38:24):
I'm the bottom line is one of the worst rosters
in the league. And I don't say that lightly. I mean,
if you look at the roster, maybe you guys can
answer this for me. Can you can you name a
single player in the roster you think would be there
in five years?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Right like, maybe Christian and Zalez and he's been there
for ten minutes, right like? That might be the only
guy in their roster. So you know, I think this
is this is something that's really bothers Robert Kraft. He's
brought up the draft repeatedly publicly over the last couple
of years. How he feels like they need to draft better.
They don't have a lot of young talent in the roster.
(38:58):
And you know, it's worse about this isn't like so
much just getting beat the way they've gotten beat over
the last two weeks, which is obviously embarrassing for everybody there.
It's that there isn't a light at the end of
the tunnel, like if you had you know, if this
is happening to the Texans and they have CJ. Stratton there,
it's like, Okay, so there are some bumps that we're
going through, you know what I mean, Like, but but
(39:20):
we'll get there. You know, the colts of Anthony Richardson.
There's no like, there's no like light at the end
of the tunnel right now. And I think that's the
scary thing for everybody in that building. And so, you know,
do I think Robert Kraft would fire Bill Belichick. I
don't think he wants to, you know, I think he'd
much rather have some sort of you know, solution to this.
(39:40):
And my my feeling would be, if it keeps going
the way that it's going, I don't know if he'd
fire Bill, but like I think that there's a very
small chance that Bill would walk away from like the
sourt of season, it looks like they're about to have
with the personnel power, and then the question becomes, Okay,
so Robert Kraft says, we're going to hire a GM,
(40:02):
and we're going to have that GM report to me. Bill,
you're not going to report to the GM, but the
GM is also not going to report to you. Would
Bill be willing to stay under those circumstances, especially with
him being as close to the Shule record as he is.
If this keeps going the way as going, guys, if
it doesn't look good this weekend against the Raiders, if
it keeps going this way through November and December, I mean,
(40:25):
he's setting up for a very very awkward set of
discussions between the owner and the head coach of the
last twenty four years.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
By the way, Josh McDaniels two to zero versus Bill
Belichick previous sentence, so does have a bit of an
edge there. We kind of played this in there out
yesterday talking about I'm just curious to get your thoughts.
If the season does go as poorly as it at
least has so far, and the Patriots are in a
position to draft potentially another first round quarterback, but Kraft
(40:56):
wants that to be another general manager. You don't think
Bill Belichick would want to hang around with the potential
of having another guy in there at quarterback that maybe
is a little bit more talent and all that, and
no knock on Mac Jones, but the reality was, you know,
they took him the middle of the first round. There's
a chance, at least as of today, they'd be drafting
number five overall. Maybe that improves over the course of
(41:18):
the next you know, a few weeks as the season
goes on. If they don't turn this thing around, you
don't think you'd want to stay around to see that,
as opposed to going somewhere else and starting over.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
I think it's it's a tough it's a tough thing,
you know what I mean, Because I think as far
as like his option somewhere else, he has things so
turnkey in New England, Brady, like I mean, like he
can still do the things that like a seventy year
old would want to do in their life, you know,
at that point in their life, and coach football.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Well, I mean like pickle ball and stuff or like
what are you talking about?
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Yeah, well, I mean like I mean like going down
to Barbados on the first day of free agency is
what I mean, right, Like it's like he can do
things because he's got the operation so wired and because
he's been there so much his operation, you know, like
that you can do different You can do those things
if you go somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (42:04):
And I thought you meant like him going to the
villages and like hanging out with other people closer in
age dead.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
I thought you meant that that me like that, like yeah,
like the pickleball where yeah.
Speaker 5 (42:14):
Like they're playing golf and they have like their early
for its special at four thirty pm for dinner.
Speaker 7 (42:19):
I won't tell you which golf course, but he does
live on a golf course, so he does have that
part of it covered, you know. I like I I
you know, I do think that there's that part of
it though, Bray, Like it's like if it's so certainty
that like you're able to kind of balance stuff like
where you can do that, it's a lot different deal
than having to go somewhere and just start from ground zero.
(42:41):
And I think like if there's opportunity for him elsewhere,
it probably wouldn't be with all the power that he
has in New England. Right, it would either be in
like that Bill Parcells role that like Bill had in
in Miami or what Mike holme Grim was in Cleveland
for a time. Right, Either be that or it'd be
just a coach. I don't know that anybody would give
him everything the way that he has everything in New England.
So if they're going to take some of that away
(43:02):
from him in New England, then he's gonna have a
decision to make. And would he be okay if they
brought in, say like John Robinson, you know who who
learned from Bill and who grew up in the Patriots system.
If they brought in John Robinson said, Jay Rob's going
to be your general manager. J Rob's gonna have personnel
power here and you're going to work with him. Would
he be okay with that? Maybe he would be. I'm
(43:24):
just not sure. I don't know. I mean, after you've
done things one way for such a long time, and
after you know, the way that he saw his old boss,
Bill Parcells, really enter into a weird situation with the
same owner in New England where it blew up after
a year. Would he want to do? That's that's the
question I can't answer. I'm not sure, but I do
(43:44):
think that the Shool record being out there for him,
and the potential to get a young quarterback in there
to go and get that record and leave the place
in good shape and have you know, his sons around
with him on the staff for another year or two,
I think that that would all appeal to him.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Okay, abe, I'm gonna switch I'm gonna switch lanes on
you and go college. Where where are you at with
your buck guys today? How are you fitting?
Speaker 3 (44:11):
I don't know where they're at.
Speaker 7 (44:12):
I don't know if we're going to be able to
block your defensive front LeVar in about nine days, so
I'm a little worried about that. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Do you think you'll be able to defense us?
Speaker 7 (44:24):
I think so, I said we can, right like, I
think the Ohio defense can can go toe to toe
with the Penn State offense. I'm a little worried about
our offensive line.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I'll just say, well, I mean, especially if they got
to play in like a twenty yard box because apparently,
based on some reporters questions that James Franklin Pennon State
doesn't like to just chuck the ball down the field.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
That was great at any cost, no matter what.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
At any cost, no matter.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
What, Like I I don't even know, I'm boiling thinking.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
It's making my skin crawl, like literally coming out.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
It was the nicest most insult thing response to a
question that I've ever heard.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
Oh, Like, having been in those situations, though, you could tell, like, honestly,
you could tell he has a relationship with that reporter
because like this is the way that back and forth happened.
You could tell he was like it was like one
of these all right, buddy, like I'm gonna I'm gonna
show you where on that on this, So you could
tell like that wasn't just some reporter who's never around.
(45:25):
Is a guy that he had a relationship with.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
You know, Albert, we got to ask you because I
don't think we've done this this year, but you know
people have been begging for this and the return of this.
Do you think we got about thirty seconds left? Do
you think that Ohio State is going to be I
don't know, like nineteen nineteen and a half points better
than Purdue this weekend?
Speaker 3 (45:44):
Do you think that could possibly take?
Speaker 7 (45:46):
And I think it's just good that we're bringing this back.
I do think this weekend I looked pretty good.
Speaker 6 (45:52):
Okay, so I'm gonna say yet, Oh, not a trap, Jim.
Speaker 7 (45:54):
Although although a lot of bad things. I mean, I
don't know how aware you guys are about what a
house of horrors that is and how weird stuff happens there.
Like West Loftiet is like a lot of weird stuff
happens at that place.
Speaker 6 (46:08):
So what happened to you in college, Albert? What happened
when you went there and visited?
Speaker 7 (46:13):
You know? You know about that?
Speaker 3 (46:14):
Right oh yourself?
Speaker 7 (46:17):
You know about you know about that. So like when
I was in college, Ohio we were a like Ohio
State wasn't very good when I was in college. It
was probably the like I was there for probably the
worst three year stretch. I graduated. They win the national title.
And so my junior year in college, Ohio State controlled
the whole game against Produce Is John Cooper's last year,
(46:38):
probably one of his last teams as head coaches the
two two thousand and Drew Brees beat us on an
eighty five yard touchdown pass I believe it was Taylor Stubblefield,
you might have you might know this. I think it
was Taylor Stubblefield on the other side of it. Eighty
five yard touchdown pass. Yeah, so so yeah, I mean
(46:59):
when I was when I was there, believe it or not,
Like the Drew Brees was the quarterback at Purdue, Tom
Brady was the quarterback at Michigan, and Ron Dane was
actually the conference player of the year in the Heisman
winner when those two guys were the starters together at
their school. So it's a good time in the conference.
But yeah, Purdue, like West Offiett, has been like all
(47:20):
like for all the teams, like Michigan, Ohio State, like
I think Penn State has has had some weird stuff
happened there too, of our like it's just weird.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
We've never had a problem with Purdue.
Speaker 4 (47:31):
Yeah, we've had problems with you and Michigan, but never
would Purdue.
Speaker 7 (47:37):
Never would Purdue. Okay, I know the Michigan and Ohio
State for I mean, Michigan and Ohio State has some
real problems. It's not it's specifically at Purdue. It's not.
It's fine when Purdue comes to you it's when you
have to go a lot west Offiete that there's a problem.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
I would agree with.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Well, I got my card up.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I agree with that, Albert.
Speaker 2 (47:53):
We love Avenue every single Thursday, and of course next
Thursday is going to be a fun one as we
look ahead, do Penn State or Iowa State at Albert
Breer on Twitter, our senior NFL reporter at the MMQ.
Speaker 7 (48:05):
Forgot the mess. Brady's going home this weekend too.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
Yeah, of course he is.
Speaker 6 (48:08):
I'm already here, buddy, I'm already here.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Of course he is God's Country.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
Going to the linebacker that I told you like that
was never a spot. We have memories because that was
the coaches.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (48:20):
Wait did you end up going Brady?
Speaker 7 (48:22):
Brady gave me I'm gonna get Brady credit. Like Brady
gave me phenomenal advice for where I should go in
South End, and uh, I'd agree.
Speaker 6 (48:30):
Wait, what did I tell you about the linebacker?
Speaker 7 (48:33):
I mean you told me that like I can't move
with it?
Speaker 6 (48:36):
You said you said.
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Something I said, if you drop something on the ground,
you leave it. Because that sept flooring has never been
clean to replaced in the past four decades.
Speaker 7 (48:47):
Which is like my type of place. I couldn't when
he said that to me, I couldn't get there fast enough.
And uh and it was like one of those places
where it's like a time warp to the eighties. It
was phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, well listen, Albert, it's gonna be fun next week,
so we'll do it again then. He is Albert Breers,
senior NFL reporter at the MMQB. Always a good time
here on a Thursday morning.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Thanks ab, all right, thanks guys. That's one
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