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October 17, 2023 37 mins

The guys gear up for their trip to Graduate Hotels in Columbus for Penn State vs OSU at The Horseshoe. The Chargers prove themselves to be a cursed franchise. A pattern of impatience in Carolina, as Frank Reich is already on the hot seat. Plus, the daily edition of “You In or Out?”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So LeVar, I had an idea, all right, I want
you to hear me out, okay, because I don't think

(01:16):
Brady can do this because of the circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Probably true. Probably true.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
So we are going to be in Columbus, Ohio on Friday. Now,
We're going to be at the Graduate at the Homage Bar,
and we're going to be doing the show live. And
of course we're there because it's Ohio State Penn State,
and you've got you know, we are entering enemy territory
and going to Columbus at the Shoe to take on

(01:42):
Ohio State has talked about earlier a four to four
and a half point underdog. Are the Penn State Nitney
Lyons undefeated, very dominant performances over the past couple of weeks.
And it feels like there's going to be people there
that are going to be watching the show and in
attendance and hanging out. But I feel like, you know, LaVar,
you're gonna, you know, you're gonna be out numbered by

(02:04):
a lot when it comes to Ohio State. Fans that
are there to watch the show and be a part
of everything. So I have an idea. Okay, why don't
you let me be your hype man. Let me nice,
let me stir the pot. Okay, let me let me
get the crowd all up in arms, let me piss
some people off. You're like, you're the prize fighter, all right,

(02:27):
let me be the mouthpiece here.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
We're not Michigan though, so it's not like there's bad
blood more.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Of a reason to try and ignite some bad blood.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
No, No, I've actually the times I've gone to Ohio
to watch Penn State play, which is not often.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
In fact, maybe twice I have. I have gone.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
I've always had a great time. One thing about Ohio
in Columbus, they know how to have a good time.
And so I don't you know, you can be, but
I don't need you instigating anything, you know, because if
anything were to pop off, you're not the one that, like,
you know, like I'm the one that's going to have
to handle that, not you. So I don't I don't

(03:13):
really want you being that person that stirs things up.
You know, you're you're kind of a natural instigator. Well, listen,
I don't want to deal with that.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Like want it. Let me be your Bobby the brain heating,
you be Andre the Giant, and let me just go
ahead and get you into some encounters.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Okay, okay, okay, I just talked like this the whole
weekend you.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Have Andre the Giant you just now broke out on
the show.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Is that Andre the Giant was bad? Was it?

Speaker 4 (03:40):
That was pretty good? Actually that's pretty good? Yeah, pretty solid.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
But no, I'm good on that.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Man, just just enjoy yourself.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
I mean, you're really only going to be there for
like what forty forty some hours?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
About an hour and a half in total.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's less than forty hours.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Huhez not a long time.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
But I didn't come here for a long time. I
came here for a good time.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
By the way, I am seeing reports of rain. Are
we going to have a soggy horseshoe? Oh yeah, coming
up on Saturday?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Or what?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah? Some soggy offles.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
I mean expect that, buddy, that was rain and the
last time I was there, and I'm fighting this whole
ankle deal, so go figure what.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Is going on with your ankle?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Man?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
I'm hearing stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
It's the arthrortis you know.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Sure it's not something more. Maybe she got checked out?

Speaker 5 (04:27):
God Lee, what I say that, because I've got checked
out like three or four times when when I've had
these like little flare ups. So just is what it is? Man,
just looking out with old age. Well, I appreciate it.
I appreciate you, guys.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Karen.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
I mean, but you know, unlike you know some pro bowlers,
you know, you are medically cleared and you're doing the show.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I am medically cleared and I am doing I did
not opt out of doing the show you.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Went there.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
In fact, I'm rehabbing a round the clock like I'm
rehabbing right now because I'm trying to be in Columbus
with a shoe on.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Not not that rehab and tail.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
The the blunt cold object like the thing that you
use on on cuts and stuff. Well it's not ice though,
it's it's a it's a cold blunt object that you
rub the sore spots, you know, you rub them out
almost like grasp what they call it grassing guash shaw

(05:30):
on how reverse you are.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And all that.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Yeah, but it's not a straight line, like it's not
like a knife, and I'm not blading it. It's it's
like a roller and then you have the game, the
game ready of course, so you decision ice.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
On you get that game ready.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, you know that's about it.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
But you know, I have seen my doctor and and
I do have medication for what what's taking place. And
you know, so I'm taking my medication. I try not to,
but I take it as needed. And I'm trying to,
you know, get myself together.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Here.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
You can have you can have crutches in Columbus as possible.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
All right, Well, I'm not I don't have any shame
in my game. It's I do not want to get
on a on an airplane with crutches.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
But as possible, it's gonna swell up that ankle right
on the plane.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I mean probably most likely.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, listen as your hype man, I got you though, I.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Keep it compressed. I'll do all those things. I'll swing
one of those crutches.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Allows to depress.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
You are on the same.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Floight out, No, yeah, well you you live closer to
what I was A John Wayne is a long beach
airport you live next to.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I'm going out. I believe I'm going out of l
a X.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Huh I just that you guys are leaving earlier than me.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, you know, that's all. I don't like to leave
so early.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, Lee and I's flight is so close after the
show that if they're if we hit one red l
we're probably gonna miss the flight. So yeah, we're gonna
we're rolling the dice on Thursday. But that's the way
we roll. That's what we do. And as your hype man,
don't worry. You can roll like that too in Columbus,
I got you. I'll swing a crutch if I have to.
I'm telling you right now, man, it's gonna happen. Even

(07:16):
even the numbers out there can be good.

Speaker 5 (07:19):
They got some good LeVar Allen's at the Graduate will
be good.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, we'll get you. Listen to your hype man, I
got you. Don't worry about it, okay, taking care of appreciate.
Can I ask you us a question? What's what's wrong
with the Chargers?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
All right?

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Brady?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
You made mention of this quickly early on.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Okay, that's a cursed franchise. An I don't know what
to tell.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
There's gotta be more than that. Why are they not
better than they?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Then?

Speaker 4 (07:41):
What their roster would.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Say, it's tough to put your finger on it, but
I know what finger they're going to be pointing at
Brandon Staley here.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Surely, if they'll start winning.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Some yes, good bath finger, it will be the pointing
at you and you go goodbye.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So that's the tough part. I mean, they have a
loaded roster.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
There's a lot of questionable decision making that he makes
at times I think throughout the course of the game
that involve analytics and decisions behind that. So, oh man,
you're not gonna blame Justin Herbert. I think everyone sees
his natural talent ability. You're not gonna blame the defense
and some of their pieces, And it really is going

(08:24):
to fall in Brandon Staley. And that's that's why I'm
most curious to see, like who's the who would be
the right guy to come in and fix it because
this has been an organization that has no fear of
moving on from coaches who've.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Had a ton of success.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I mean, they weren't scared to move on after to
Marty Schottenheimer, and I feel like they've never been able
to get close to that sort of success since they
let go Marty Schottenheimer.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
I I did this very confusing because I look at
them and I go, there's a lot there, like and
it's at all aspects, whether it's defense, the Old Lion's
got some pieces, the skill position players, Eckler's a really
good player, Herbert's there. I just I don't know it,

(09:09):
and I don't know. Is it just as easy as
well they just don't have the right coach. Okay, but
it can't be just that, Like there's something that doesn't
make sense or something doesn't add up. And I know
they've got the injuries, the Mike Williams injury, and we've
talked about the injuries to them in the past before,
but I just it doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
They still have enough weapons though, you know you still
have enough weapons. I mean you had Keenan Allen that
that's balling out for you. You still have guys, I
don't I don't think you look at it and say
this team is devoid of talent. So that's why you know,

(09:48):
you can't blame the coach for what's taking place. In fact,
I think that's the reason why there's so much scrutiny
on on the coaching staff as to what they do.
The defense has played well, the defense played well last night.
The defense has given them opportunities to win games. Justin Herbert,
as Q mentioned, I mean, he is a franchise caliber

(10:12):
type of quarterback. If we were going into the game
last night and you were to say who's the better
quarterback going into this game, what would you have said?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Herbert?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Herbert?

Speaker 5 (10:21):
I would have said Herbert. I think everybody would have
said Herbert. So you're not going into a situation where
you're looking at your quarterback as being the issue either.
And if you have a good defense, and you have
a legit quarterback at the position, and you have weapons,

(10:42):
there's no other place to place the blame but on
the quarterback or on the coach. If the team is losing,
there's no other place to place that blame. There's no
other place to go unless unless there's now a conversation
of the culture. Now, if you start having that conversation
that goes beneath the surface, and now that becomes a

(11:03):
different type of conversation. But just that face value, you
have to look at the coach, and the coach has
to be the reason.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Why so and so, what scenario does Brandon Staley keep
his job? And obviously well, they win a super Bowl,
but if they make the playoffs but lose in the
wild card game, he's out here again.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
We've seen that organization move on from coaches before in
that scenario.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
That's what happened to Marty Schadheimer, right.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
And I think that's why a lot of people were
surprised that he was brought back this year because of
the way they lost that game at Jacksonville last year.
And so it feels like.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
They uses games like the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
So yeah, it is, Yeah, it is true, But it
just feels like they're in a spot to where they've
got to at least win a playoff game or there's
going to be a change at head coach. And I
would imagine that that's going to be one of the
top jobs on the market, if not the top job.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
They need to get into the playoffs first, Yeah, like,
let's not like talk about that scenario.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
And so they get into the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
So look, it's hard for us on the outside to
diagnose what we feel like is wrong because if we
were able to, they would be calling us to hire
us to be a part of their staff. And that's
the reality when you ask a question like that. So
it's it's clearly to me like they haven't been Like
I guess what surprised me is, I haven't feel like

(12:23):
they've really dominated an entire game yet this season. And
I know it's early and a lot of oftentimes, you know,
you only get so many opportunities to do that, but
it just doesn't feel like they've really been overly dominant
at any point in time, even though they should be.
Like That's the thing that I think always sticks out
to me about this team is, you know, they bring
in Kellen Moore as their offensive play caller, and I

(12:47):
don't know. I mean, you look the last three weeks,
twenty eight points versus Minnesota, twenty four versus Las Vegas,
they scored seventeen last night. You know they they're struggling
to put up big numbers outside of kind of Week one,
which I guess you could call more of a shootout
with Miami. The offense has not been as explosive as

(13:10):
you'd hoped, like, at least in comparison to the Miamis
of the world, or I mean, maybe even Kansas City,
the ability to even though their offense hasn't played great
the season either. But I don't know, That's the thing
that stands out to me the most is I always
feel like there's a lack of offensive output that's left
on the table with the personnel they have, And this week,

(13:33):
you can't afford not to, Like, you better be able
to score when you have to a need to versus
Kansas City.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
They know that better than anyone.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
Yeah, and they usually play Kansas City pretty tough. But
this feels like a big game and a kind of
a line in the sand for their season and where
they could.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Turn it around. They could turn it around. I mean,
it's possible that they could turn it around. Yeah, it's
a good enough team that they could turn it around.
And it might not just be you know that the
offense output has not been what it's needed to be.
But they went head to head with the Dolphins, you know,
and I think they have the talent that if they

(14:12):
do decide that they're going to be more than what
they are on the offensive side of the ball and
support their defense a little bit more, that they could
end up getting some ugly wins or getting some good wins,
or some way somehow the facet turns on. I don't
know that they're trending down I didn't see them in

(14:33):
the game last night say this is a team that's
trending down flat. I don't know what it was that
it was lacking, but I didn't look at them like,
this team is trending down, so they have a chance
to turn it around.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Now Brady brought this up. I mean, if they did
call us and say, hey, we want you guys to
be a part of the staff, I mean want you
guys to come in and help the organization, would you
guys be open to that. No, though you wouldn't want
to bolt up.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, I would, but I would actually live in uh,
San Diego, and I'd commute up. Great call, because I
plan on the future the future move back down to Qualcomm.
I would, but that would be my commissions that I
can commute from San Diego.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Start playing on your your next job.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
You get the old Philip Rivers, you know. He would
take a he'd have a driver drive him up to
games when they moved away from San Diego, and he
would do all this prep and everything in the back
of the car.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
That's because there's not enough hotel rooms for everybody's into
the game.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
Bang bang, Literally, he take a car, his family take
a bus.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
You know they bang bang, yeah, not enough graduate hotel
rooms for River.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
You know they on the same program Graduate hotels.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
No more rooms, mister Rivers, no more rooms.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Last name Rivers?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
See say one more time. How do you say that,
no more rooms, no more rooms for you? What is
that accent? I don't know.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
I just that's how I've always heard people at front
Death's talk to me. No, no more rooms. We have
nice room on on first floor, right elevator.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
So it is two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports radios. You gotta be careful.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Of what y'all. Only ones that are are putting stuff
out I'm just talking talking about he's talking.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
About, Yeah, the ones that's always putting that type stuff
out there in the space.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
I'm just talking about what the guy sounds.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Come on, don't put that on us.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
That's on us. Put who exactly would that be? I
don't know who that is, Okay.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I'll put it this way.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
And just asked Jonas last time went to the horse
track to do some of the accents of things people
he sees and people talk about there.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
Well, I mean there was the guy, well, the guy
we dropped.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
The run of car off to what did he sound like?

Speaker 4 (17:11):
It's like, hey, where do we uh? Where can we
leave this car? But I don't have aaron rent of it.
I'm sorry. And Brady just looks at me and goes, hey, man,
welcome to Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
I said, no.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I I translated it for him. I said, you have teeth,
Yeah he did. I said you got to park right
over there. He said, you can leave it anywhere and
just return the keys into the thing.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
I'm really really nice guy. Just the accent was so
thick that I couldn't understand. Yeah, I can't understand, but
you get that's.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Not considered racist or anything. Right.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
You gotta be careful on this, like I'm just trying
to understand.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
No, yeah, no, there's none of that, isn't it doesn't
you grew up.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
About if you were as saying, Anita, oh Sam, they
sound there.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
I mean everybody sounds elegant. I mean we're gonna be
out there. You'll see for yourself. I mean everybody out there.
I mean I can't wait to be a part of
the Breeders' Cup coverage, you know for Fox Sports Radio
there at Santa Anita. Can't wait love that place. Love
San Aita Racetrack.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Okay, huge fan. Nice.

Speaker 4 (18:17):
You know it's gonna be a good time out there.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
I love them all. I love eating cheesecake factory and
going bowling there too.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Where is it the Arcadia Mall? Is that what they
call it? Yeah, the name of it. There's like a
David Busters out there or something like that.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
And Busters there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
I've watched plenty of football games there. That's when I
get my all twenty two's, you know when I'm evens.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
A Santa Anita's got that great circle bar inside. They
got a bunch of TVs up there.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
I tell everybody to be quiet. I'm all studying.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
I have been prepared. I've been mangled at that bar before.
Used to go for my birthday every year. It's a
good time, man, Love Santa Anita, Okay, it is good.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Escape. Yeah, we escaped.

Speaker 4 (18:56):
Definitely is on the exit and just walked right through that,
doing right all through It is two pros and a
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(19:17):
revelations for how things are going within that organization, and
we'll tell you who that is that's next here on FSR.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
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So the Carolina Panthers are the worst team in the NFL.

(19:58):
They are winless on the season and clearly in a
rebuilding situation with Bryce Young as their rookie quarterback, and
not much sure how much longer that Frank Reich is
going to be the head coach there in Carolina. So
this started last week when the reports surfaced and Frank
Reich talked about having to sit down and have weekly

(20:20):
meetings with David Tepper the owner. And then it came
out over the weekend that the Carolina Panthers were simplifying
the offense for Bryce Young and then they lose to
the Dolphins big, even though they went up fourteen to
nothing early in that game. And now Frank Reich has
given up play calling duties to the offensive coordinator Thomas Brown.

(20:41):
I mean, we're, you know, six games into this whole thing,
and it already feels like Frank Reich is on the
hot seat and David Tepper and Frank Reich can say, well,
this was you know, my decision, and you know this
was not a David Tepper telling me I had to
do any of this stuff. But it feels like Frank
Reich is scrambling for answers and maybe, you know, he
doesn't have exactly the right answer for David Tepper during

(21:03):
these weekly meetings and now we're taking drastic measures to
try and get this thing back on track. Feels a
little off there.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
This is.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
This is one of those moves you make when you're
a head coach who calls plays where it's one of
your lifelines. Remember who wants to be a millionaire? You
got like three of the lifelines. He gave the fifty
to fifty. You had the phone a friend. Well was
the other one?

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Asked the crowd? I think was the other one?

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, yeh, that's the crowd.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, this was This was like I'm not sure really,
this is probably more of like the fifty to fifty,
Like you got to make a move and has to
be a substantial move, So you fire yourself as OC
and then you just have Thomas Brown, who's the titled
OC now call the plays. Cause here's the thing with
the fifty to fifty is you don't have you gotta

(21:53):
make a choice, right once you eliminate two of them,
you got to make that next choice between a couple things,
and that's all he really has life left. He has
to make a choice, and there's probably only two things left.
And it was fire himself as OC, allow Thomas Brown
to call the plays, which might buy them some more
time and potentially sparks the team and maybe he's got

(22:15):
a little more offensive creativity. Or you would say, all right,
what else is the issue? The defense hasn't been great.
In fact, that's the thing I point to the most.
Like if I'm David Tepper and I'm frustrated with where
this team is at is the rosters not bad defensively.
I mean, now they've suffered some injuries and that's played
a role, But if you looked at matt Rules time there,

(22:38):
they won what seven games, I mean in large part
due to.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Their ground game and their defense.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
And I really felt like, coming in this season, you
bring in Bryce Young and then you allow him to
be protected by both those things, and they could be competitive.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
And what you didn't.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
See was the fact that they weren't gonna be able
to run the football effectively, and even defensively, they taken
some major steps back. So their narrative can be, hey,
we're in a rebuild mode, we have a rookie quarterback,
we have a new head coach. But the truth of
the matter is, I don't know that that cupboard was
really left that bear. I mean, tell me I'm wrong.
Was that not a decent defensive team last year? Did

(23:16):
they not start running the football better?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
It's still decent this year. Their defense is still decent.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Like it's more of their lack of offensive weapons, And
I get that, but I don't know, man, it seems like,
and especially with David Tepper, a newer owner who wants
changed once at fast, like you worry about him wanting
to make this thing a one and done.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
You don't make things better by switching out, swapping out
coaches all the time very quickly.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I think you gotta give there.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
There was always the idea that you got to give
a coach at least three years before you know if
you going to start moving away from that coach. I
just think this whole microwave response to getting results is
not realistic. Like if Tepper thought that he was going to, oh,

(24:17):
bring in a new coach, I bring in Bryce Young.
We're going to be just like Tom Brady and the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we're going to win a Super Bowl.
Like just you don't buy I mean not in football
at least. I've never really seen a team, a franchise
buy a championship like you had to have at least

(24:40):
a good coach and the right framework and play for
you to spend that extra money. That looks like you're
buying a championship to bring in pieces that make it better,
but you still have to have foundational pieces. If you
don't have foundational pieces, I don't understand why an owner
would not give a coach the opportunity to put that

(25:05):
foundational like. They do have foundational pieces, they do have
a decent defense. They did just draft a quarterback in
with their top pick. You have, you've made some moves.
You got to give it time to develop. I just
don't understand why you don't get things time to develop.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
There's like a pattern of impatience. Well it's you know,
five years, he's on what four coaches, he's been the
owner there. It's like, what are we doing, dude, Like,
give it some time. I don't get it.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Five years, four?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I mean, I guess I kind of just look at
more of the track record with Matt rule. He gave
them three years and it didn't quite work out, which
that kind of falls.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Under the rule Lavarley, you're looking.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
For three rules. I mean three years, Yeah, three years.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Think.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I think part of what happens with owners, especially newer
owners to the NFL, is once they go through that
initial hiring process finding the guy. I think they become
more in tune of hey, what's working, what doesn't. They're
around those league circles more talking to other owners at owners'
meetings and getting a sense for what everyone else is

(26:12):
doing too. And I almost think that the decision making
on whether or not they've got a guy is shortened
because of that, Like their patience doesn't grow, In fact,
it lessons, because the longer they're in the league, I
think the faster they realize they either don't have what
they need.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Or don't have what he's looking for.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
And I think there's that portion of it from an
owner's standpoint that starts to come into play, Like as
soon as you realize this isn't the guy, you want
to move on as fast as possible, and you're making
so much money as an NFL owner, you don't mind
having to pay those guys out. You don't you move
on to the next guy because you know that with
having success hosting a playoff game, you can make all

(26:56):
the revenue, all that money back. The new head coach
breeds to more optimism, which leads to better ticket sales
and corporate sponsors and there's other things to sell, and
so that that's one of those deals where I almost
wonder that because of his experience early on as an
owner and the more he's been entrenched in the NFL.
Speaking of David Tepper, the Panther's owner, is if he

(27:18):
hasn't grown more patient and excuse me, impatient and saying
the more I do this, the more I could tell
either they got it or they don't. Like to some degree,
like I feel like the more you grow older watching football,
it becomes kind of simple to like look at a
player and go, yeah, he's got it. He doesn't or
there's something off there, or he needs a little more
development here, right, Like when you look at something you go, yeah,

(27:40):
that guy's got it, right, Like Lev, I'm sure when
you saw I do a card the first time there's
a there are an element of you just going, yeah,
he's got you've got it. He can wear eleven, right,
like you weren't like I need to see a little money.
You're like, no, no, no, he's got it. Like it's just
a matter of you know, when he develops into it, right.
I almost wonder if that's part of it is, you know,

(28:01):
Like I feel like as you get older, I think
I get a little more patient, But I also know
how to identify quicker like conflicts issues, things where I'm like,
this isn't working, got to move on.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
R H.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Less patience, right, because well, I know, either less patience
or it sharpens your decision making process, and so you know,
you kind of look at the runway of a head
coach and go, well, yeah, like, you know, maybe I
didn't give you three years, but I don't feel like
I needed to do identify that you're not the guy
and this is my team, so I can make that decision.

(28:38):
You know, there's always the chance that some from someone
else has caught his eye as well. Yeah, he could
be interested in someone else and he's not you know,
Buddies or right is not going to get a fair
opportunity outside of just really winning.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Oh are you saying what are you like speculating Jim
Harbaugh or the.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
Paper not speculating anything. I'm just saying there's always and
you know.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
What you bringing up Harball?

Speaker 5 (29:07):
That's kind of interesting because there's been a lot of
conversation about why he shouldn't be the highest paid coach
in college football, and that has circulated around lately for
some reason. So that would be interesting if Tepper is
eyeing up a Harball. But I would say, when you
have an owner that is allowing things to come out

(29:31):
of his organization and become public domain and knowledge of
what's taking place, and then the head coach is even
a part of those conversations and what he's saying about
the owner. It could be the idea that that coach
knows he's not in a winning position anymore.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
He's a lame duck.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
And that could be the fact that the owner has
grown fond of someone else to be his prodecessor.

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(31:39):
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Speaker 6 (32:23):
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sports or entertainment.

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Speaker 2 (32:37):
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Speaker 8 (32:38):
Guys, we've got Game two between the Diamondbacks at Phillies today.
Philly leads the series one.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Nothing are you guys in? Are out on this tonight?

Speaker 4 (32:45):
And man, I love what network is it on?

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It's on TBS.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
I'm out, Nah bang bang.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I mean, I'm just saying if it was on Fox,
you know, maybe it was all Fox Sports, Fox Sports.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
The Fox is the World Series coverage again this year, right,
I'm assuming they do well. And that's why you see
the Phillies because Arizona's got no shot.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
In this series.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Shots five or hot take at the Desert?

Speaker 2 (33:12):
That a take though?

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Damn? What else we got?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Lee?

Speaker 8 (33:17):
Well, if you're looking something that's a little more Fox friendly,
we got England versus Italy and the UEFA European Qualifiers.

Speaker 9 (33:22):
And how in Labia Wembley Lanabia. I call him the
fog because when their defenses rolling Italy they just engulfew.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Out Yema var in this one, come on, yeah, out.

Speaker 8 (33:42):
What you need a little college football action since none
of that works for you? Got Middle Tennessee State at Liberty,
Southern Mississippi at South Alabama, Western Kentucky at Jacksonville State.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
What time?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
What time?

Speaker 8 (33:53):
He's around seven o'clock, seven o'clock eastern?

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Three times? Yeah, I watched, I watched.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, I love me some college football, man.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
I do too. I love it best. Actually I wish
there wasn't professional. I just wish they made college pro.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Well, and then people just went on to work in
the workforce. Isn't that what Joe Paul wanted? I thought
that was what I remember a couple of Penn State
guys I knew, like he wouldn't let you guys have
pro days or workouts on campus or something.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
He definitely did let us have pro days or workouts
on campus. Did or don't know the reasoning behind it, though,
did or did not?

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Did not? He did not.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
We had pro days. We had a day, a pro day.
You just didn't have let the workouts and stuff, right, Yeah,
you didn't have it. I don't believe. I don't recall
there being workouts.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
So I'm not gonna say who it was. But he
this player told me that. I was like, really, I
was like, what, don't he wants you?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
He's like, no, man, He's like he just had a
different perspective on go get a job.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, go get a job. It's not your listen, it's
not gonna last long for you. Just go get a job.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
What would be your response to him when he said that, like,
what would you be a coach?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Coach?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
He wasn't wrong, but give me, give me, like his
accent combined with you being like, no, coach, you.

Speaker 8 (35:15):
Know, hey Heyrton, Hey, hey go get a job.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Hey coach, I got a job. It's whooping an ass
out here?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Hey hey, hey, what do you mean? What do you mean?
Did you guys? Did you talk to him much like?

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Did you actually have conversations with him for like an
extended period?

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Man, me and Joe, Like, there's a lot of like
reports that me and Joe did not. We did butt heads,
but we definitely had a cordial relationship.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
What would you butt heads about?

Speaker 5 (35:57):
Go read the Sports Illustrated Artist cool that I was in.
Oh Go look it up in the Arts Red you'll
enjoy it.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Google him, Brady, come on.

Speaker 5 (36:07):
Yeah, yeah, pull up, gargle meet Brady Quinn. I mean
you're from Ohio. Google me.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Dies.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'm just saying I didn't.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I don't remember hearing anything about you guys having any friction.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Did you ever try and put on Joe Pau's glasses
just to see what that was like?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
No?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
But I made fun of them out an awards banquet though,
in a speech, and I put two big glass like
I had there with these glasses we were drinking out
of and they were short and if you put them
up to your eyes, it made your eyes look bigger.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
So I snuck two of them up to the to
the lac tern, and when I gave my my, my
my speech, I said, you know, for so many years
I have not been able to see things the same
exact way coaches seeing them until tonight, until now. And
then I put those glasses on top, like, put them
up to my eyes, and I said, now I seem

(36:56):
to see things much clearerly and clearer, and I see
them like coach. And everybody just broke out laughing. It
was pretty funny. It was some trash can because my
eyes were really big in those glasses and those cups.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
Else what else?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
What else?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Guys?

Speaker 8 (37:11):
It's National Payback your friend Day.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
If you got any debts to your friends? All right,
Brady up, Come on?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
What do you owe a lot of ten dollars fines?

Speaker 2 (37:19):
By the way, you owe.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
More than anyone because you guys don't know the difference
between busting balls and being passive aggressive.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
See be ten dollars right there?

Speaker 4 (37:28):
All right, here's just there's twenty keep the change.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
You're just sensitive.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
You're sensitive the West Coast sensitivity. No, you're sensitive.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
Oh, I'm going to go ice my ankle some more guys,
so i'll talk to you tomorrow.
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