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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, Week seven in the NFL
is here. We're gonna look ahead to Jags Saints and
find out which is more disappointing between the two. We're
also gonna have a conversation about quarterback injuries in the
NFL and one that just continues to not make much

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Speaker 5 (01:43):
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us instead of calling his lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
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Speaker 5 (01:50):
We're his phone, a friend, we're his one call.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, it is mind boggling.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Well, the good news is Week seven in the NFL
just kickoff later on tonight and it does feature one
team in the Jacksonville Jaguars, who I think a lot
of people look at Is a couple of years ago. Man,
nobody wants to see Jacksonville in primetime, But now they've
got legitimate stars.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Trevor Lawrence is banged up. They're one point underdog on.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
The road at New Orleans against the Saints team that
has been let's just call a little bit disappointing considering
some of the buzz and hype about Derek Carr and
being able to run rough shot in that division.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
I mean a little bit disappointing. Look, they've lost three
of their last four. This is a roster that's built
I thought to easily win the NSC South. In fact,
I think if we go back to the preseason odds,
the Saints were by far and away a running a
runaway to win their division greater than anyone else. I'll
have to have maybe Lee can double check that, but
if I'm not mistaken, they were the heaviest favorites of

(03:00):
any division in the NFC to make it to the
to at least win their division, I have a shot
at making a run in the playoffs. So that's been disappointing.
It just it feels like something's been off with this offense.
And I know Derek Carr is new to this place,
and look, offensive production has been down across the board.
Scoring has been down, red zone touchdowns have been down,

(03:22):
big plays have been down compared to.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
A years past.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
It's crazy to me yet how this team doesn't feel
like it can put up points at will.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And yet Mara back.

Speaker 7 (03:36):
You've got a guy like Chris o'lave who was a
stud rookie wide receiver last year. Michael Thomas is finally
back healthy, Rashi Shaheed, He's got a ton of speed.
Their offensive line has been one of the better, which
actually too this tonight, that's been one of the issues I.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Think you'd point to.

Speaker 7 (03:55):
Both tackles are out even even some depth there too,
but Ryan Ramsay is out in they're left tackles out
as well. So I mean, outside of that, this is
a team that their defense has played well. They just
have not figured out how to be able to put
it all together for a complete team win, LeVar. But
to me, they've been way more disappointing than anyone else

(04:17):
I could really point to in the NFC so far
this year.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Yeah, probably what will be considered a disappointing loss to
the Houston Texans, close game, but With all that being said,
they're literally only one game removed from where the Jacksonville
Jaguars are. You're talking about a five hundred team at
three and three that's going to lock Horns with a
Jaguars team that is four and two, which I don't

(04:43):
I'm really not sure if we don't have a lot
of the same questions surrounding the Jacksonville Jaguars at four
and two, it's seemingly a positive.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
It is a positive record.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Obviously you're two over five hundred, But I don't know
that what we've seen so far, at least what I've
seen so far from the Jaguars, has been I guess
has filled the the bill of what the preseason you know,
hype or the preseason projection of the Jacksonville Jaguars to be.

(05:22):
I don't going into this game. I don't I don't
see there being a clear favorite. I don't see the
Jags being a clear favorite over over the New Orleans Saints,
and I don't see the New Orleans Saints being a
clear favorite over the Jacksonville Jaguars. So I think there's
a lot of questions that have to be answered. So
to have a game of this sort on a Thursday night.

(05:44):
It's kind of a is this like a niche game?
Like this isn't one of those like or what they
say niche? Is this a niche game? Or is this
a game that like really the masses can get behind
on on a prime time and was on prime time
game on the Thursday night.

Speaker 7 (06:04):
Well, I think you've got two teams that are heading
in different directions.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Right.

Speaker 7 (06:07):
The Sayings started off the season, what two to zero,
and they've lost three of their last four. The Jaguars,
on the other hand, they've won their last three.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
I mean.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Far, I assume you traveled internationally, but do you believe
and be able to find your mojo on the road,
because once they got to London they went back to
back games, won last week as well when they got.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Back to American soil.

Speaker 7 (06:27):
It just feels like they found something over there in
London that have you ever found something internationally?

Speaker 5 (06:35):
I'm really going to do this, huh, don't. I don't
know that I've found anything. In fact, I don't think
I found one thing at all. And in fact, Brady Quinn,
I think I was further lost. Actually I came home
and I was I had not got my Mojo.

Speaker 7 (06:56):
I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to, but.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Okay, I'm glad you do know that I'm going to
you know that were not heard all the stories.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Okay, there we go. That'll be. That'll be for our
Columbus church together, I do. I would say this though
about the Jaguars. They are a.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Team that I think at the beginning of the year,
based on their schedule, you could see why they could
win the number one overall seed the AFC South. Now
that we've gotten a little further in the season, I think, look,
Houston's much better than we thought. C. J. Stroud's playing
really well, probably as high as a level as a
rookie have we've seen out the gates in a long time.
You know, the Colts are in a different position now.

(07:45):
Anthony Richardson's gonna be out for the rest of seas
if we we obviously got that update yesterday from Jimersay,
their owner, not the head coach, not the general manager,
from Jim Irsay. And then you've got the Jaguars that
are sitting there as a team that is now hot
three in a row. It seems like they're starting to
put some things together. But there's the knee injury. Now
to Trevor Lawrence, he's got I believe it's an MCL,

(08:07):
and it looks like he may be going for this
one when I'm quite sure, but it looks like that
may be the case.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I've ever dealt with an m CL.

Speaker 7 (08:14):
I've dealt with a PCL, and you can kind of
play with that, but you're not gonna be effective. And
so I guess that's more of a question I have now,
is you know, what's your outlook on this game, given
the fact that Lawrence is gonna be banged up. Etn
has been fantastic if ladies touched the ball, probably more
than anyone the running back spot. But still you've got
to be feasting on Lawrence if he's not gonna be
very MOLTI on a big percentage of his throats from

(08:38):
outside the pod because he has been under pressure this year.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, that's a good point. I have suffered MCL.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
Sprains before, medial medial collateral, meaning that the inside of
the knee has has taken a some type of a
stretch or blow where you know, the side ligament on
on you know, obviously the crucial the crucial ligaments of

(09:06):
the A c L being on the outside and the
medio collateral being on the inside. It's it's it's really
it can be I guess tolerable. Like you can almost
create a tape job that kind of gives you the
stability that that you need on on an M c

(09:27):
L sprain. It just depends on the severity of it.
If it's if it's a pretty severe sprain, then it
is going to be very difficult, and it's probably more
so because of the swelling more so than the sprain
or the strain itself. So I would assume he's going

(09:47):
to have a a tape job on. It's probably going
to have I would assume a knee brace on on
that knee, and that knee will have that you know
how those those linemen where the done don Joys. Yeah,
so the dawn joy will actually have his his need
locked in to a certain a certain degree. It won't

(10:08):
be able to go left or right to only to
a certain degree, and it's it's very protected. So he
could be he could be stable and in his movement
and it not be too bad. Especially if you throw
in there a tart all shot, it could it could
be pretty pretty tolerable, but he's not going to I mean,

(10:31):
you're not going to be at what you are at
one hundred percent obviously, and so it is doable.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
You take a toward all shot, because my only reservation
would be if you like numb me up too much,
if you give me that nectar from the gods, and
I can make that injury worse because I can't feel it.
That's where like maybe I don't mind having to play
with a little bit of pain, if that makes sense, Like, yeah,
you would still shoot it up and you just play
through it.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Well, yeah, because again, they tape it in a way
where they tape they almost like what is like substitute.
It's it's really not a substitute for your your ligament itself,
but they do tape it in a way like they
tape the ligament on your leg and then they put
the knee brace on it and it kind of it

(11:17):
stabilizes your knee in that position. So I'm not gonna lie.
I mean, could you still tear it?

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't. I don't really know. I don't.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
I don't know if that's if that's a thing with
the knee brace in the way that it's taped. Whether
you have your you know, have a shot or not.
I'm not certain of that, but I know I've I've
played with mcl sprains and and I've gotten through as
a linebacker and a running back like I did it
once in high school, and as a running back and

(11:46):
a linebacker, I still played, and I did it, I
believe in in the league once.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Or twice, and I was able to play.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
And I wasn't as mobile like my my flexion wasn't
as is good, but I was still able to have
an effective game.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
So we'll see.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
I think what your pain tolerance is, you know, that's
with any injury, it's come down to what your pain
tolerance is going into it.

Speaker 7 (12:14):
Right, No, that's understandable. And the last thing I'll just
say is we've got to handicap this thing. So the
Saints are given a point at home on the short week,
which is a little bit interesting. I thought this number
might be closer to two or three for the Saints,
but again, they've played poorly of late, so that's probably
one of the reasons.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
The other interesting.

Speaker 7 (12:31):
Thing about the betting angle right now in general is
unders unders have been hitting at an unprecedented clip. It's
been like a decade since we've seen this high percentage
of unders hitting every single week, and we've got God,
I want to say, it's the most over unders under
the total of forty that I have seen in probably

(12:52):
at least the past eight years. And this is one
that this game started off at forty two. It actually
got bet down to now the over unders set at forty,
So you almost have another game that's kind of hovering
or close to around that numbers. So where you're laying
your money here, you're harder in money LeVar. If you
had to place a wager on this game, if.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
I had a place a wager, I'd say, it's still
hard to play.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
In New Orleans.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
And so if you're giving up one point, I gotta
go with New Orleans. I'll go on I got Lada
points with New Orleans, you know, because I just think
it's a difficult place to play, and they could. You
don't know what you may get. You may get the
three win, you may get the three win New Orleans

(13:41):
Saints at home, but you may get the three loss
New Orleans Saints at home. So I'm gonna go somewhere
in the middle. And I would say, if it's a
one point. You know they're getting one point. I'm gonna
layer points on it.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Yeah, this is a tough one for Again, I always
look at the sayings. I'm like before the season, I
would have thought that this line would have been a
little bit higher, and I would have no doubt picked
the Saints here, laid the point at home short week.
All those things line up to think that Sants should
get a win here. But the Jacksonville Jaguars defense has
played pretty good, and even though the passing attack has
been somewhat spotty, I think you've seen glimpses over the

(14:18):
past few weeks. Now if it's starting to come together,
and Traves etn is gonna be the key to me,
He's got to have a huge game tonight. He's touched
the football as much as anyone in regards to rushes
and carries. That should still be the case. So I'm
gonna lean on taking the point with Jacksonville. I think
the better play, though, is the under you talked about it.
That place is so tough to play in that dome.

(14:40):
The crowdoise is incredible. The defense for the Saints has
been pretty good this year. The defense for the Jaguars
has been good, and this is one of those games
where if Lawrence has banged up, I just I could
see him them running the football a bit more, trying
to get more carries to traves etn shortening the game here.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So to me, the Unders the best play.

Speaker 7 (14:57):
But I'll be on the other side of this, so
I'll take the point and the Jacksonville Jaguars. But you
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Speaker 2 (15:50):
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Speaker 7 (15:53):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (15:54):
What?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
What are you going with? There?

Speaker 8 (15:55):
I think it's in excess what you need?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Hm?

Speaker 1 (15:59):
You like it?

Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's an interesting, uh choice of song.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, I mix it up?

Speaker 7 (16:05):
You do mix it up. I'll give you credit for that.
You are as diverse as anyone. Probably not as diverse
as Lee, right, but but pretty diverse.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
There is Lee diverse. Have you seen what that guy
will eat? He's daring.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
I mean, Lee on any given week basically takes a
tour of the kind of the entire globe as far
as the different food he puts in his body.

Speaker 8 (16:26):
I just did an oyster shot for the first time.
That was very that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, this long hit to an oyster shot.

Speaker 6 (16:33):
I know, right, Yeah, I was at I was at
the beach last weekend. Did an oyster shot along with
my bloody Mary.

Speaker 8 (16:40):
Very very good.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I like oyster.

Speaker 7 (16:43):
Were you with someone? I mean, you know, and oyster
is an afrodisiac.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Uh what did you say, an afro djiac?

Speaker 8 (16:53):
It is it is indeed, actually, but I did catch that. Yeah,
are very crafty there, Brown.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
I'm just trying to entertain LeVar at this point.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
That's all. That's all I'm really trying to do. It
was good, It was good.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
There's two segments in a row too, by the way,
you know, your zesty on to two segments, so I'll
take care.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
I like it.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
Well, I'm doing my best. You know, he's not zesty.
Shaun Watson quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. He hasn't thrown
a competitive pass, I want to say, since September fourth,
first the Tennessee Titans, and he's going to miss more time.
LeVar with the shoulder injury facts cleared, I guess cleared
the sense of he doesn't need surgery, but he did
yesterday come out and discuss more I guess details to

(17:41):
the injury, what he's dealing with, and then maybe how
he can or cannot help out his.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
Team, how you might feel about Team Jeopardy. If I
can't do certain things, that is going to allow us
to be handicapped in certain situations. So you know, that's
the reason why I haven't been able to, you know,
step on the field. Yeah, I mean, it can be
any day. It can be tomorrow, could be Sunday, can
be two weeks, from now. I'm not even sure, you know,
I'm just like I said, it's day to day and
I'm following, you know, the steps of this the medical team,

(18:08):
and you know, when that time is ready, then I'm
going to go out there. I can't hit a timeline
on anything right now.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
I mean it sounds it sounds okay to me. What
I mean, what's how you feel about it as a quarterback.
What's your take on that?

Speaker 7 (18:23):
My take is, I just I haven't seen or heard
of many guys who've taken off this much time for
something that doesn't need surgery and they're throwing shoulder. I mean,
we're going on a month now, and it's interesting. You
look at Joe Burrow again playing through a calf injury
the entirety of the season, and it's something that could

(18:48):
have gotten worse, didn't need surgery or we don't think
needs surgery, and he played through it regardless of how
it looked early on.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Right, this is the exact opposite of that.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
You know, you have quarters within your division who have
come back from injury to play against Baltimore, for example,
which is a team that he wanted to play against.
San Francisco, didn'tant play against. I mean, he's cleared medically,
he doesn't need surgery. He talked about the medical team.
I'm curious who he's referring to.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Now.

Speaker 7 (19:16):
Look, every injury is going to be different, unique to
that individual. But this is one where I do My
mind wanders levard too. If he didn't, if he didn't
have the fully guaranteed contract, would you be sitting out
like this? If he was in a position where he
had to prove it this year, or prove that he's

(19:39):
the guy, would he be sitting out right now? My
intuition leads me to think, no.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
It's a legit question.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
I'll say that it definitely is a legitimate question, and
I probably would go towards the side of no as well,
or you would at least see a more it would
appear to be a more intense effort to get back,
not such a subdued, you know, calm, laid back approach
to getting back.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
It's almost as if it's like, listen.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
I'm just not ready yet. And because I'm not ready
and I'm not fully ready, I'm not coming back.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
You know, I don't know if it's a good thing
or a bad thing.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Usually when you're you're okay enough to come back and
you really know that I can play, like I can
get out there. I'm not going to be fully me,
but I can. I can bring tools to the table,
you know, for what it's worth. It kind of takes
me down the road Q of thinking. That's part of

(20:42):
why actually I love football so much, you know, I
love competition so much because sometimes your body isn't going
to be In fact, most times, your body isn't going
to be out of place of total equilibrium and comfort,
and you have to learn how to prepare. You have

(21:03):
to learn how to get through things. And you know,
that's what sports teaches you.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's it's perseverance. It's like a battle of attrition.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
And if you're not in a situation where you're going
to reinjure yourself and you can get out there and
you can play, but you're still not playing. And it
seems like it's based off of, you know, kind of
the things that Deshaun Watson kind of labeled and listed.
It doesn't offend me what I heard him say, but

(21:32):
I do sit there and think to myself, if you've
been medically cleared to play and the coaches are looking
at you like you can get out there and play,
and your teammates are looking at you like you know
you can get out here and play, then I think
there's something to be said about you entertaining it. So

(21:53):
I don't know. I'm not that close to it. I
don't know what he's doing on a day to day,
but I would say the easy, simple answer is yes,
you do try to play if you're not one hundred percent,
because you're generally never one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
And that's everyone, right, Like everyone around you that you're
playing with and playing four together is in a similar
boat to you. And look, I understand that with like quarterback, kicking, punting,
like there's certain things even wide receiver to a degree, right,
like there's certain things where you could have an injury

(22:28):
that doesn't seem like much, but to do your job right,
Like if you end up breaking some fingers on your hand,
well you can still run routes as a receiver, but
it's been to impact your ability to catch, you know, kicker, punter,
you have something wrong maybe with your your calf on,
you know, your kicking, like whatever the case is, you

(22:49):
may be cleared to play, but you may not feel
one hundred percent and I think that's where we're at
right now, is you know, it doesn't sound like obviously
the team wants them not to play.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, it sounds like, you know, they would love to
have him back in the lineup. I mean, no disrespected
to PJ.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Walker, but he didn't help them last week versus the
San Francisco forty nine Ers. They were fortunate there was
a miskick because I do wonder if they lose to
the forty nine ers last week, who missed on all
the final moments on a field goal, that's two weeks
in a row they lost. They had a bye week
sandwiched in between their Baltimore Ravens butt kicking and then

(23:26):
the forty nine ers loss, or would have been hypothetically,
I wonder if he would have felt more pressure to
come back because now they start road trips back to
back weeks on the road in Indianapolis, which obviously is
down Gardner Minshew's taken over. But you know, bad loss
last week and then in Seattle after that, tough place
to play, and these to me are are winnable games

(23:49):
if Deshaun Watson's your quarterback.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
If he's not, now you throw that up in the air.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
I mean, the defense has played lights out. They have
been able to overcome the Nick Chubb injury because Jerome
Fords ran and they've got Cream hunting out.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
But eventually, like you've.

Speaker 7 (24:03):
Got to say, if this is going to be a
team that can bide for a playoff spot right now,
you know they would be like in that Hunter right
in the mix there if the playoffs started today, you
still have to think you want to see Watson. You
want to see more from Watson too, because he hasn't
played over League Grey since he's arrived at Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
There's a lot there.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I almost feel like the quick answer to it would
be if he was going to feel pressure, he'd already
be feeling that pressure even before the Sanfords, like I
would have felt the pressure. Like dang, I don't want
to let PJ go in against that defense, Like I
need to make sure I try to get out there
and at least try, you know, if I can't go,

(24:43):
if I if it don't feel right, and Pj's got
to go in, then no harm, no foul. I gave
it a go and and PJ, you gotta do a defense.
I gotta hold us up. Run game. You gotta hold
us down. And but that didn't happen, and PJ wasn't
there for the win. Regardless of of what took place,

(25:04):
he was a part of a win against San Francisco,
gave them their first loss. And again I've raised the question.
You know, after that game took place, the one thing
you never want to get to is a place of
where your team doesn't doesn't feel they need you.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
You know, that's a lonely place.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
And listen, I've never been paid as much money as
Deshaun Watson, So I don't know if that lonely feeling
is possible or if it's replaced by being able to
look at what's going into your bank account or what
you already have in it. I don't know if there's
a money figure on there that makes you feel okay
with it. But I just would never want to not

(25:45):
feel like I'm an important piece and important part to
my team.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
And I mean, he could.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
You don't feel like risk of that, You don't feel
like he I mean, it is odd. It feels like
he's being super patient about this, and even in his
response a few moments ago, he talked about how it's tomorrow.
The next day or two weeks from now. I'm like, well,
hold on a second. I mean, you should be able
to like, this is your body, Like any injury that

(26:11):
I've had, I can tell you like I'm close or
I'm getting there, and I probably it's probably gonna be
another week or so and or or hey, it's I
feel like I'm right there, you know, another day of
practice and there's something like I'm gonna be able to
do what I'm gonna try to do it, maybe not
one hundred percent, but good enough to go out there
and compete with my team.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
The fact that he's acting like he doesn't know is
what is crazy to me.

Speaker 7 (26:32):
Is he he is almost as acting as if he's
just completely in the dark about, you know, when he's
gonna be able to rehab and come back from this,
which makes it all that much more mysterious and kind
of I think frustrating if you're a teammate of his,
would it not?

Speaker 5 (26:46):
You know, there's probably the possibility that his rehab regiment
has been so dramatically and drastically changed and altered that
he probably doesn't know exactly how he feels in going.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Through the rehab process.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
The way that he's going through now, Like back in
the day, maybe on number what seven, if the first
six didn't get it right, maybe the next six would
have got it right.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:21):
Maybe if that next six didn't get it right, maybe
the next five would have got it right.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
You might have ended up on seventeen by the time
you got to where you needed to be where you
could get back on the field, but you probably got
back on the field. So right now, I'm sure he's
just limited to to you know, a handful of people
that are working on him, and you know, it's just
it's not yielding the result that it did when he

(27:46):
was in Houston, you know.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Right.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
And on the other side of this particular, the Browns
had to Indianapolis to take on the Colts. It will
be Gardner Minshew and it will be Gardner Minshew for
the rest of the season for the Colts. Anthony richards
Richardson is deemed out. He's gonna have to have surgery
on his shoulder. Something where I think when you look
at the start contrast between these two again, you can
kind of understand like, Okay, the young man displayed the

(28:13):
ability early on though, to be pretty special. I think
for the Colts, and they want to make sure he's
taken care of, to get his shoulders taken care of
for the future for twenty twenty four, but it will
be Gardner Minshew the rest of the way for the
Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
So I guess that's a tough thing for me.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Is even this week when you see the contrast, and
I kind of pointed this out before. You know, Pickett
was coming off an injury and he came back just
to play the Baltimore Ravens, understanding how important that game
was going to be because of the divisional ramifications. Now
you look at this matchup and you've got a quarterback
who needed surgery obviously has to be out in this case,

(28:49):
not the case with Watson, and so I just it
leaves a lot of things up in the air to
interpret or to try to get a feel for, you know,
why he's been able to be out so long but
not need surgery. It's just it's one of those unique
different types of injuries that he's dealing with. But you know, Leavar,
I'm not sure if you've been to the Breeders Cup.
Jonas and I have the opportunity to go last year

(29:11):
and it was an absolute blast in Keenland and this
year it's on California. And look, we're in the final
stretch to get tickets to horse racing's biggest moment of
the year, that is the Breeders Cup, and the world's
best are headed to San Anita for the Breeders Cup
World Championships on November third and fourth.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
The countdown begins.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
Now get tickets today at Breeders Cup dot Com.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Coming up, We've.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Got a story that I'll just be honest with you,
I am so envious of. There's a man who's looking
at breaking a record, one that I hope one day
I can challenge. It'll be in our segment called It
In case you missed it.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
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Speaker 2 (30:01):
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Speaker 10 (30:02):
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Speaker 1 (30:35):
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(30:58):
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Speaker 3 (31:15):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Good thing.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
The guys are here to bring you in case you
missed it.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
And for that we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lead lap Good.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
More than everybody, more than Brady, more than LeVar, more
than Jonas. Guys, in case you missed the start of
the show, note worries, because you're here now.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Shut up.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
And also in case you miss story, Hey Brady, Hey
le guys, In case you missed the story, I think
you're gonna like this one, Brady. A golf photographer by
the name of Patrick Kinnig has just broken the world
old record for most golf courses played in a single year,
and that's most eighteen hole golf courses. He just broke
it yesterday. The previous record was at four forty nine.

(32:09):
He just hit his four hundred and fiftieth and he
still got fifty more to go on his tour around
the country that he's got on a blog.

Speaker 8 (32:16):
He's in an RV.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
He had AI help him map this whole thing out,
and right now he's done everything from Pebble Beach to Sawgrass.
He's played every hundred public golf courses in between.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
And I think he's living your dream.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
There, Brady, he definitely is. Man I kind of touched
on it.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
I would love just to play every golf course possible.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
I love the game of golf.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
It's like the one thing that I know I can
do now, hopefully for the rest of my life without injury,
even though I've got some back issues.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I think it's awesome. It'd be cool to travel the world.

Speaker 7 (32:47):
You're outside, it's everything that's all pristine and green and nice.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
It'd be so much fun.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Now.

Speaker 7 (32:52):
I'm sure i'd be frustrated with my golf game, but
still it'd be a fun ride.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Nonetheless, I would be all over this.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Does this guy have a spot? Answers? How does he
afford this?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
He's rich, it's a rich person's sport.

Speaker 8 (33:05):
He's doing this for charity. He's actually raising money for charity.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
There you go.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
He's got a blog.

Speaker 7 (33:11):
More rich.

Speaker 6 (33:11):
I think he's got a blog called the RGV Tour
two point zero blog.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I mean, it's not bad. You could get sponsored by
an RV. You could get sponsored by you know, golf
apparel company or somebody like that.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
Or maybe like a driver who could come pick you
up and gets you to point a appointment.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Damn right, that's a great call. That is a great call.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Now he could be here at the beginning of the show.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, no, he definitely could. Oh wow, thank god.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
I mean, did you think you're gonna walk right back
in and not kid it?

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I mean, first of all, not my fault, legitimate issues
and still waiting to find out what exactly are.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Hey, pal, let me give you a secret. You're always
going to have fugitimate issues.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, but fair. This is the way the show works,
all right. If there's an opportunity to get kneed in
the nuts, you're gonna get need in the nuts. Period.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
End of the story.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Lee, what else we got guys?

Speaker 6 (34:07):
In case you missed this, Tulsa is going to be
taken on Rice today and they're trying to break a
world record for having football fans crush beers before the game.
They're trying to break a previous record for most people
doing a beer tasting, which was set in Barcelona back
in twenty twenty two of twelve hundred and forty three people.
They're trying to get at least three thousand people to
take part of this tasting before the game.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well, I mean, who tastes a beer?

Speaker 6 (34:32):
The prerequisites are that you have to have three different
types of beer and hoping to set the record like.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Wine tasting, I get, but like a flight of beers,
was it like a shot to.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Do flights of bears?

Speaker 7 (34:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (34:47):
We do, Yeah, they do that in places. I mean,
come on, I've done flights of beer before, my guy.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah, I understand, but like three, that doesn't count. Like
a flight of beer is like six five.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like three or three yeah yeah, or
at least five, at least five.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
So we call this bogus on a technicality that they're
not actually doing a real flight of beer. They're half
assing it a little bit here.

Speaker 8 (35:12):
I agree, Yes, I don't screw that.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You guys ever go wine tasting.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Sure, I've never done a legit wine taste.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I have either.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
I heard they're pretty fun though, they're great fun.

Speaker 6 (35:25):
I hate when you go to a wine tasting and
it's like a half assed wine tasting kind of like
what you're talking about, Like they'll get.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
Oh so wait, what would not be half assed? Now
I'm curious.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Oh well, I have a place around the quarner for
me where it's like you're doing twelve different types of
wine that's full as full ass and that's like every
day they have a wine taste.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah, that's Lee's sideyard.

Speaker 6 (35:47):
But like I was, I was in Italy and there
was like we signed up for a tour where you
go on wine tasting. You go to like, you know,
a vineyard and you're like given two or three different
kinds of wine. You do a little tasting and they
take you to the next spot, and like, that's not
that's not it tasting, that's not it.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
How many glasses of wine would it take you, guys
to get buckled?

Speaker 4 (36:06):
Eight?

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Really? You could do eight glasses of wine crush wine?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Yeah, she said eight glasses. Yeah, I was thinking bottles.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Well that's that's like two bottles. Basically, that's hot. Look
at it.

Speaker 7 (36:22):
You got about four glasses depending on your poor but
about four glasses of wine per bottle.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Yeah, I got a pretty hot tolerance. I mean, you
guys have seen me in action before. Well yeah, yeah
that Well, Now, the night we went to to uh
we went out to eat. Now what, I had a
few before we went out, and then I want a
few while we were out, and I had a few more,
but I say a few dollars more.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
By the way, I still remember the count because when
we got to when we got to dinner, LeVar I
was like, man, I should have had that fourth one.
You had four?

Speaker 5 (36:57):
I LeVar out, it's too by the way, that's that's
like what that's like sixteen right, that's like a whole
bunch of shots that I mean, count out to your
shots on that one. And then we kept going what
I was getting mescal at the spot smoked?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I was smoked.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, what else we got?

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Lee, guys, advertising rates for the Las Vegas Spear are out.
You could do one day for four hundred fifty thousand
dollars or you could do a whole week for six
hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which I think is a good.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Price break there. Yeah, you guys think that's worth it.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
I know, have you seen this place?

Speaker 2 (37:36):
That thing is bad ass.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Man, Apparently the insides and just how they put it together.
The accommodations, just the service is accommodation hips, top hip
top in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
It's bad ass, I say.

Speaker 5 (37:55):
In the in the social media world, depending on what
you have going on, if you if you're a company
that has that type of scratch to be able to
market and advertise, and it fits within that that space
in the country. I would do it up on game.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Really, I would do it.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Yeah, and you think the turnaround could be like astronomical.
Now it hurt if it wasn't.

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