October 23, 2023 • 37 mins
The AFC North makes the case for being the best division, even without Deshaun Watson. What the hell is going on with the Bills? Brady denounces the movement for flag football and wants to make football physical again. Plus, a recap of their travels on the FSR IR.
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weeks in, so, I think seven weeks in Okay, and
I think.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
So I think Fox Sports Radio, so I think on Fox.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I can't do it like I do it like the
AFC North is the best division in football?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Is it? Yes? Yeah, all the.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Precincts are closed and we were reporting the AFC North
is the best division.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Definitely. I know bullying on people, don't they.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
When the Bengals are the worst team in your division,
you're the best division in football by definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well think about it too. It's not like the Browns.
I've had stellar quarterback play.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
It is Miles Garrett who is a one man wrecking
a little bit of a ground game the Stellers. Can
I say this about the Steelers, by the way, that
was Matt Canada's best offensive performance of the year as
far as play calling it now they're coming off the bias.
They had two weeks to do it. But I've been
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critical of him. A lot of people have been critical
of him. That was the best game plan they've had
all year offensively, so he deserves a lot of credit
to for getting that win, even as good as their
defense played.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But that that was a fun one to watch. But
then Baltimore, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I knew they were due for one. I didn't know
it'd be like that, but I knew they were due
for a game where they put it together. It's just
that's classic Baltimore. That's what they did is classic Baltimore.
You'd be like where we got here.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Oh, I feel like I learned more about Detroit though,
than I did Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
In that one. Tell me, I mean you didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean, I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Sometimes sometimes you the biggest, baddest on the block until
you run up on a different block and thought that
you was that same dude on that block, and then
you realize that somebody else was maybe bigger and badder
than you on that block.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So maybe you should just stay on yours where it's safe. Yeah,
it did.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It did feel like I came I came away from
that going all right. So Detroit's not one of those
if we get down by a lot, we can get
back in this game.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
A lot, just by Detroit's one of those that apparently
just won't show up.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, they never got off the bus.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah, they weren't there, which is odd because they've been
great on the road all year. They've been great on
the road and then out the gate show got smashed.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Twenty eight not four straight drives allowed Toddy toy right,
Toddy Tuddy heart.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Left hook by everybody, by everybody in Baltimore kicking while
they laid the hand.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, that was the team that That was the
moment that Matt was was talking about. It is press
conference when they we get knocked down, we're gonna punch
you in the knees. I mean, they was knee punching yesterday,
you know Detroit. Yeah, I mean I guess again, I
did say that that was vintage Baltimore right there, So yeah,
(04:22):
I guess I did learn a little bit more about
about Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It was the most complete Baltimore Raven win we've seen him. Yes,
it was like that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And that's kind of scary because they look like the
best team in the AFC North yesterday and looked like
a true contender in the AFC yesterday.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
I mean, Brady brought it up. Man Miles Garrett, he's
a beast. He is unreal.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And he's so flexible, like you see how low he
comes off the ground, but then can can jump like
literally is just jump over you all quickly and then
get back up in the air to block a field.
Dude is like he's a pretty he's like built to
do the things that he does. It's like weird, he's
built like but he's tall, but he'd be low to
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the ground would he be coming up that age? That
that a field goal block?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
That was unbelievable because if you touch, if you touch
somebody on the line of screening, if you touch the
long snapper, it's a penalty.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And he got all the way up over.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Made the block, all that body up and over that
quickly from from as low as he was on the ground.
That's man, that's it's hit.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
And you need signature moments like that and signature games
to really get in the conversation. And right now he's
tied on DraftKings with Micah Parsons for Defensive.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, he definitely gave himself some some real, some real
momentum with that game.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, that was a good one. And I mean, listen,
you know PJ. Walker.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean it feels like they've really found something at quarterback.
I mean, doesn't does Deshaun Watson want to play?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know. I mean, does he want to play?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean at some point, I mean, I guess he
can't say he doesn't want to play, because then they
probably be able to go after his money. But does
he want to play?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
How could you not want to play with the defense
like that that you're going to have a shot to win.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You get two hundred and thirty million guaranteed, no matter what.
It's kind of that.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I mean, now he does it if he retires, But
as long as he just eats this thing out the
next five I mean, they cut him, they can do
whatever they want. Like he plays bad enough, they can't
cut him. They still the two undred thirty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like the dude goes down and then then they say
the report after the game was he the coaches said
he was fine, they were just monitoring it, being safe,
but he was like more a little down on it.
Like I'm praying and I'm hoping that it isn't as
bad as I thought it was. Like yeah, he's he's
actually the one that's basically reporting on his health to
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the media, which is peculiar.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Everyone else with a medical opinion just clears him pretty much.
I mean, it's like, well, it's kind of similar to this.
You get a killer's it gets a trust fund, right,
two hundred and thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Then he's like, hey, you would to go out and
get a job.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
He's like not really, no, no, no, I've got two
hundred and thirty million coming. I'm good. That's what it
kind of feels like. Like it's it's human nature, by
the way, too, for if someone wants if you want
to the lotto and you end up netting two hundred
and thirty million, because we always talk about the power
Ball and all that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Like, you'd probably be like, I'm good. Probably not, I'm
probably not gonna do this anymore, right.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So you're saying I don't have to really play anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's what we're saying to John.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And look, Stefanski was saying afterwards that you know, he
was cleared of the concussion proto you know, they checked
him for concussion, he was cleared, and then it was
Stefanski that just decided not to put him in the
game because he wanted to protect his franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Which were which were the words, I.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Want to protect my franchise quarterback. It' say, okay, then
why why did he suit up? Like if that's the case,
why is he playing at all?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The Browns are going to make a run with PJ.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Walker starting as their quarterback for the majority of this year,
and they're two hundred and thirty million dollars starting quarterback on.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
The bench, chilling the trust the trust fund. Baby, that's chilling.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's an expensive backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hey wow, wow, you can have whatever opinion you may
want to have on it. He has made me single
handedly ruined the opportunity of any other player every ever again,
I mean ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, every owner.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Is like exhibit A, this is exactly why we're not
giving you guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But I said, don't ever come around here again, like never, never, ever, ever,
ever ever come around here again asking for a guarantee contract.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I mean listening, you know, Brady Quinn's been pounding the
table for years on Fox Sports Radio. I wish they
would take the backup quarterback job a little bit more seriously,
start paying these guys and really invest in this, Well,
Cleveland's investing two hundred and thirty million dollars in a
back quarterback, so clearly position, Yeah, Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I told you all, Like I talked with some folks
before the season and they were trying to convince me
he's a top five quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I was like, top five when no, way, I go,
at what.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Point do you think he was the four and twelve
season when he put up great stats, a lot of
that in garbage time, and it is like, was that
the year you saw that? Like, I don't know that
he had ever at any point in time during his
career been at top five quarterback, but like that was
their their tagline with.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
The top five, top five.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I'm like, he's not a top five quarter He's never
been a top five quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So not sure where you get that from.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
And now you've incentivized him to not play because he's
just paid. I mean, the whole situation is incredibly frustrating
as a Browns fan. It's incredibly frustrating as a former
Browns player, because they don't need to do much more
at the quarterback spot in order to make a run
because their defense is so good, because they've got such
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a great offensive line and are able to run the football,
and they've got weapons outside too. If you just got
average quarterback play and didn't turn the football over, this
team would be like we look at him and say, yeah,
there may be not the Chiefs, but they can sure
as he compete with the Chiefs and I'll put them
in a one game playoff scenario. I get him a
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shot with that defensive running game. If you just had
a quarterback who didn't turn it over and made a
few throws a few plays, man, it's frustrating to me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Man, I'm sorry the.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Saw Watson speaking of a few throws and a few
plays complete it one pass for five yards, oh, which
match his interception total. Look, interceptions weren't the same even.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Before he left the game. He wasn't good like they weren't.
He wasn't playing well. They actually got better quarterback play
from Pjak when he came in and.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Up said, you look at the way he was playing,
Jodis is like, does he want to play?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So he did speak afterwards. So here he was one
that one.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Deshaun Watson talking about the decision to not go back
in the game during the game yesterday between the Browns
and the Colts.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I want to go out there and try to have
the team as much as possible and go out there
and play and then perform with your pet. But the
decision was was best for you know, the team, and
they thought that was the best. And you know, PJ
did a great job of finishing the game, and everyone
else played having the job.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
To get the game.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That might be a horrible person because ever since everything
that's happened, why does it always sound like he's sitting
on a on.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A sales stand.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yes, why does it always sound like he's sitting on
the stand.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah you do?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You got a guilty conscious?
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You sound like testifying everybody on the advice lawyer decided to.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Return the game. I played other Now play what he
just said yesterday? Yeah, right, play what he just said.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
God, I know, I want to go out there and
try to have the team as much responsible.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
My lawyer right on the decision that was best for
you know, the team, And it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Does all sounds it just sounds like, you know, you
know what, I can't help but think of when he
decides that, you know, he's medically clear. This is now
twice that he's been cleared and has not played for
whoever's reasoning or or the reason why he's not played.
But this is now twice that we know of documented
that he's been cleared medically to play and just doesn't play.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He's guilty of not being the person that they thought
they brought it well, that's why he's interviewing the way that.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I can't help but think Nick Chubb's got to be
watching this, going, I do anything to be out there
like I would do, like I almost lost my career
on that play, and who knows how I'm gonna recover
from this knee injury that I suffered.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That was gruesome. It was another knee injury to the
same knee.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
If I'm not mistaken, he's gonna be watching something like
that going seriously, man like, like if they were to
tell me right now, hey, listen, you're cleared.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But it's up to you. You think Nick.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Chubb or ninety nine percent of players are going to
be like, no, no, no, no, Now, I'm gonna go
ahead and set this one out.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's for the why, that's what's best for the team.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I may not be wait, wait, you make how much money,
It's it's best for the team that you be off
the field even if you're not one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Okay, yeah, it's uh, that's a weird one.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I don't think he wants to play anymore. I think
we've seen the last of Deshaun Watson, and he's going
to play. He's going to stay on the roster. What
I'm saying is is you're not going to see an
elite level caliber quarterback ever again out of him. I
just don't see it. I agree, I just don't see it.
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Like it ain't there, Like did.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
We see it in the first place at any point?
Like that's the thing that.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I say that I know he was good in in Houston, right,
but like I think you could contend, like, really was
he up there amongst the top, Like I don't think
it was ever the case.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like, and I understand people, well we went to the
Pro Bowl, it's like.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
And and the year he led the league in in
yards and all that that was where like if you
really dissect through some of that garbage, a lot of
stuff came in some blowout losses.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he was impressive in some
of the things that he was able to do. But
to justify some of the conversations in terms of what
he represented in comparison to other quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's not you can't do it.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
He was never a top five quarterback. He was viewed
as somebody who had the potential that you would want
to build your organ your roster around that. He was young,
and that's somebody that for the next ten years, you know,
if he continues to ascend, he could get to that point.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And it just never happened. And that's the intrigue of it.
When you have the situation where it's kind of turbulent
with what's going on, and I think it was turbulent
times in Houston, and people are looking at it like
he's still performing, So there there was some merits to it,
Like you think about what's going on and with the
Chargers right now, you know, like no, yeah, I'm not
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I'm not going to downgrade Herbert. Are we going to
downgrade him?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Man? I mean, I mean, I mean not yet? Yeah,
we tell her or not yet, We'll do that now, damn.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah. But it's just it's not, well, yeah, it's not.
It's just not.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
It's not anything that they thought that they were they
were buying or purchasing and Kevin Stefanski's got to sit
up there and have to answer these questions over and
over again.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
One completion and one interception, and that one completion that
he gave you was for five yards.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, that's I mean, on the season.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
On the season, he's basically getting paid a little over
five hundred thousands so far per completion.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh what a bargain.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
That's in essence what he's got sixty six completions, he's
he's getting paid like forty six million this year.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
In essence. Yes, you are, yes, you are.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Listen, still a damn good division. We'll say that.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And you know what's t tell you, by the way, Yeah,
damn right, it is tell you vah better believe it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
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Speaker 5 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (18:02):
What a team to do it against it? Yeah, well
that's kind of they. I gave him a fighting chance
to get that one. That's kind of the.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Bigger story here. The hell's going on with the Buffalo Bills. Man,
It feels like we have this conversation at least every
other week or something along those lines. This is a
weird team that should not have lost that game yesterday,
Yet here we are, what the hell is going on
with the Bills. We got to figure this out. Let's
diagnose something here before we're done with this topic. What
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do you think it is.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
If if I'm being honest and I'm looking at it,
they have to find a way to be more consistent.
I just think looking at how that game went yesterday,
they very easily could have won, probably should have won
that game, and they turned it on at the end
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to turn it turn it into an interesting one. It
got away from them, but you allowed you allowed the
emotions of the Patriots to really carry them through the
majority of that game. And you know, they played physical,
they played hard, but you could clearly see that Buffalo
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had the ability and the opportunity to be able to
to do much better than what they did. And then
by the time they did it, it was a little too
late for them to do it, and then came down
to the last moments of the game. But you know,
I don't know, man, that they're just wildly inconsistent. If
you ask me like this.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Is why though, I think when people go have they
hit their ceiling. When you watch a game like this,
you're like, Okay, out the gated divisional game on the road.
I mean, I don't think they You look at any
Bill Belichick coach team and go, it's gonna be a
layup right and out the gate. The Patriots came out
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and just kind of were from the jump were the
better team. And I look at them, I'm just like, Okay,
they've lost the Jets basically without Rogers, They've lost the Bills,
all right, excuse me?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
The Patriots, Like how how really good are they?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
And I know, like if you look at their losses,
you look at you know, their their schedule the season.
I just think they're so different than how we look
at the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean the Chiefs. Chiefs have ripped off what's sixth straight?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, now, I mean, it's just it's hard to think
that they can compete on that level. It feels like
it's Kansas City and everyone else in the AFC right now.
And Baltimore looked great, but you know, they've had their
moments where they struggled. And maybe with with Monca now
calling plays and if that's what we can we can
expect based on what we saw this past week. We
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can expect them to be in the mix. But man,
I just it, the questions about Buffalo and if they
hit their ceiling are only legitimized when you go and
watch a game like this. And maybe it's the defense
being as banged up as they are, they've suffered a
lot of injuries. Maybe it's that, you know, maybe it's
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just the inconsistency sometimes, you know, with the offense in
the passing game, whatever the case may be. It's why
it's hard to buy into the Bills being a Super
Bowl contender. Outside of the fact that Josh Allen's a
tremendous talent. That's really the only thing that you always
come away saying why they have a chance of it.
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After that, I'm not sure howse you would be able
to make a case based on how this team's played
so far this year.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
When buff when New England, when Buffalo went down and
scored and took the lead late in that game, I thought, Okay,
that's it, because there's no way this Patriots offense, with
the way it's looked all year long, is going to
be able to go seventy five yards with the amount
of time that.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Was left we're not stopping them.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
And man, they went down the eight plays seventy five
yards in a minute, forty six went down the field
and scored And it's like this, it was almost like
the AFC Divisional game where there's no way the Chiefs
are difference, right, like this, this is the offense everybody's
been making jokes about for weeks, Like they were outscored
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what was it like seventy nine to three or something
over a two game stretch, Like they were awful and
went right down the field on the bills, like right
down the field with the game.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
On the line.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And I was happy to see the Patriots win, but
I just come away from that going I just don't
get it. And maybe maybe you're right. Maybe that moment
in the AFC Divisional game where they blew that lead
was their chance and the window just started to slowly close,
and maybe people within that organization knew it, which is
(22:48):
why you had guys like Stefan Diggs have the offseason
that he had. I mean, look, Leslie Frazier just kind
of disappeared. He's doing TV. It's not like he just
took time away to he just kind of walked away,
And yeah, they've got the injuries. It just feels like
there's something there's something off there, And I just I
do wonder is this the type of year if they
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don't end up going places? Is this when they start
kicking the tires and maybe making a head coaching change
because somebody's got to be held accountable, and Josh Allen's
already been paid. Like, I just wonder, are they gonna
look at that and go, we got to get somebody
else in here, because maybe this team's just not responding
to Sean McDermott anymore. If that's a real conversation, I'm
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just saying, like, Wow, what is the other answer? What's
the other solution? And then you just what tear it
all down? They got pieces there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
They got more than just pieces. They have what they need.
It's just not that they went healthy healthy.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Their defense is pretty decimated, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
How much do you guys put in that? I mean,
not to switch change subjects, but you did have your
two top cornerbacks out in that Miami game. Does that
and and I guess foreseeably they're coming back.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I should be back.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Except that's why I think I would love to see
if that ended up being the Super Bowl. I wouldn't
mind seeing it because I'd love to see how those
two quarterbacks matchup with Devonte Smith and A J.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
If xavieron Howard and Jalen Ramsey were back and healthy
and all that they made that run, I would love
to see it. But it's I felt like last night's game,
not to segue into that, was an exist example of
how football is still won.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Like we're all happy promoting hey, flag football to.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
The Olympics suite awesome seven on seven, Like oh cool man, Yeah,
that's that's not football, all right, that's not football. That's
not American football. This game is still one with the
physicality and the trenches. And last night was an example
of that. The way Philly I thought dominated the offensive
and defensive line for Miami, and that's that's still how
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games are won and lost, and championships are still won
and lost in this league.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
At Taylor, swift to that list too, please.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I mean, Brady, what's your problem with the flag football stuff?
Like why can't you just be happy for these people
they want to go win a gold medal?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
This is the sort of thing though, And I'm not
trying to be a conspiracy theorist of all this. But
this is the sort of thing when they are pushing
certain narratives early on, they're trying to pave the ground
roads for what it may become in the future.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Like that's what this is.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
They're trying to condition people to be okay with the
different type of football that they're trying to play in
seven on seven and flag football all that because they
know for a fact, you don't have to deal with
the head injury concerned, you don't have to deal with
all that stuff, the gruesomeness of what it could look
like when you've got to do just laid out on
the field, it has to be taken off in an ambulance.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Do you think they're trying to attack the game that
you gret oh great again?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Do you feel like they're Are they trying to modify
part of your childhood, the thing that you delivered you
and brought you so much happiness and joy and competitiveness
in your life. Do you feel like that's why flag
football is such a such a problem.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I think people are trying to take away masculinity and
like physicality.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
If you want to be a real sounds just sounds.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm sorry, like I'm not standing for that. Okay.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
We need strong people, we need strong men, we need
strong leaders. And the game of football that I know
and love is with is what this country needs.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's what we need.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
None of these sissy flags flags, none of the seven
on seven, all way through the air.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I want air.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
I want by ground, I want by any means necessary,
and it means.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That's right. That's what I want for me. We will
who physicality to football again.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Come talking about Brighton Gwinn for President of the National
Football Man.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I would chew epos right now.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
You imagine if they just let me go in for
Roger Goodell and US three would sit up there in
the office and come up with ways just making football
just what football used to be. Like LeVar would be like, yep,
I'm in charge of uh the competition. Guess what.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's all on the table again, all right.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
None of this defenseless receivers crap across the book, none
of this.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Protection for quarterbacks. It's all back.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm hiring Lord Taylor and.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Jack Tatum.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Lewis.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I would literally be expanding rosters. I'd make it so
they have eighty players on the on the roster. Look,
you're gonna need five quarterbacks. We're gonna run.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Through these guys.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Take it a part.
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Speaker 1 (31:21):
I have a moment to go to the restroom before
during the show with you guys on on Friday. That
that would be my ir, That was hard, you know,
I mean a with a bad will, you know, you know.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Want to just confirmed everything that I've thought. So I've
never traveled as much as we've traveled lately for the show,
and it's been awesome to be a part of the
Graduate Hotels family and all that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But the one thing that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I've figured out, all right, I've gotten a little bit
better at packing. All right, I'm a little bit more
you know, I can kind of figure things out as
far as how to fit stuff and consolidate, Like, I
haven't checked a bag, Yeah, no, I have, I have
a checked Damn I haven't checked a bag in forever.
So I'm really proud of myself about that. But the
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one thing that I have identified, LAX is the worst
airport on planet Earth. It's it's shocking. Okay, what's worse.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Uh, DFW has slowly a tough airport.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I might have to go with Q on that one.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
D FW is one of the most disappointing hubs that
you can land in on on everything.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
There's people who will talk about how convenient it is
because you can literally walk right out from your gate,
out into a car and head out or right in.
Their security doesn't offer as many like TSA pre or
faster expedited lines. There's longer lines now, but like the
airport itself just needs updating.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And then by the way, getting from like one terminal
to the other can't walk. You gotta take a tram
or you gotta take a shuttle. Like it's it's kind
of a disaster, man. That's it didn't used to be
that way. I'm not sure what's happened, but it's become
in my opinion, one of the more difficult airports to deal.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
But they do have papados. They got bro that's some
good food.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, look this up right now.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Brady got the I R. Who else?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Not really honestly, Like it was pretty clean weekend for
me for the most part. Like I really can't, man,
I really can't.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We're saying much, man, Yeah, I'll give another one.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I haven't been faded in a long time, like straight faded.
But it's kind of cool. I went out with my guys.
We we flew back and we got into l A
and we went to to a spot, a famous spot.
I was unaware of the spot. We were in Beverly
Hills and we were drinking. We did like a ten
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course meal or something like that, and it was like
ten different wine bottles to go with each thing that
you ate. Right, So the chef comes out and greets
us at the table and we're talking. I'm like, dude,
you're a super cool dude and you're super cool looking.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was like, what's your name? And he started laughing.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Everybody at the table started laughing with me, and I'm like,
we're laughing. What's the joke. Like, I don't get it.
And then my guy hits me on the shoulder and
I'm like, my name's LeVar. He goes, my name's Wolfgang.
I said, okay, that is a no pass name. I said,
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that's like the like Wolfgang, like the one you know,
like you got the composer and you got the you
got the composer and you got the sh the chef.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was like, wait, wait, what your wolf game punk?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So I met wolf Gang Punck this year and I
was fried by the time. We had a great conversation.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, so how old is Wolfgang Puck? He didn't look old.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Seventy four, Yeah, he didn't look that old. It looked
really good man.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
So did his food.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And I'm not really one to venture into doing different
things and different flavors and all that stuff. Like I
kind of keep it simple. Give me some steak and
some French fries and I'm good. But this was it was.
They were small plates and it was it was really good.
And I happened to have pizza with caviar on it.
That's the first for me. Oh it was good, really, Sam.
(35:46):
It was a salmon pizza with caviar. Yeah, yeah, like
like literally nine ten glasses of different wines. Yeah, and
we went from light wines to red one.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Now there's there's people in the four one two who
have heard you wax poetically about French fries on everything.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Now you're at Caveyar level.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, but I still like French fries and I had
in in Ohio the night I went out.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
With that up on Game Networks. Really it's throwing yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Really. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
By the way, I've got an IR story though, come on,
come on, let's get an IR story.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
It's yours, LeVar.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
So I feel like after we had a detailed discussion
about some of the ailments you're dealing with, Yes, I
think we zeroed in on what exactly it is.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I think I think you're probably right. I mean
I've been told that. I just I have selective hearing.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I talked to my buddy last night who deals with that,
and he was like, yeah, it's one hundred percent what
it is.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
What is Like, I know we can fix this quick.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah you know it rhymes with bout.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Oh yeah, it's one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay, we're going to fix it.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Get figure out. But it hurts, I'll tell you that. Yeah,
as hurts.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, but I found the way to walk into that
game and walk out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And I did did my live spot with with Jees
people also crutches.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I have another ir a near i R for LeVar airings.
Where does everything got come out?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Well, just because I noticed this spot, it was a
great spot.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Was the bee tried to ruin it though? There was
just all that.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Yeah, there was a bee that was trying to go
inside your ear and and mark Ingram was trying to.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Try to get it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Then they went to the other side. Mark was trying
to take care to swats out the mark. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah,
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weeks in, so, I think seven weeks in Okay, and
I think.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
So I think Fox Sports Radio, so I think on Fox.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I can't do it like I do it like the
AFC North is the best division in football?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Is it? Yes? Yeah, all the.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Precincts are closed and we were reporting the AFC North
is the best division.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Definitely. I know bullying on people, don't they.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
When the Bengals are the worst team in your division,
you're the best division in football by definitely.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well think about it too. It's not like the Browns.
I've had stellar quarterback play.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
It is Miles Garrett who is a one man wrecking
a little bit of a ground game the Stellers. Can
I say this about the Steelers, by the way, that
was Matt Canada's best offensive performance of the year as
far as play calling it now they're coming off the bias.
They had two weeks to do it. But I've been
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critical of him. A lot of people have been critical
of him. That was the best game plan they've had
all year offensively, so he deserves a lot of credit
to for getting that win, even as good as their
defense played.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
But that that was a fun one to watch. But
then Baltimore, my goodness.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I knew they were due for one. I didn't know
it'd be like that, but I knew they were due
for a game where they put it together. It's just
that's classic Baltimore. That's what they did is classic Baltimore.
You'd be like where we got here.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Oh, I feel like I learned more about Detroit though,
than I did Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
In that one. Tell me, I mean you didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I mean, I'll say this.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Sometimes sometimes you the biggest, baddest on the block until
you run up on a different block and thought that
you was that same dude on that block, and then
you realize that somebody else was maybe bigger and badder
than you on that block.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So maybe you should just stay on yours where it's safe. Yeah,
it did.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
It did feel like I came I came away from
that going all right. So Detroit's not one of those
if we get down by a lot, we can get
back in this game.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
A lot, just by Detroit's one of those that apparently
just won't show up.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, they never got off the bus.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah, they weren't there, which is odd because they've been
great on the road all year. They've been great on
the road and then out the gate show got smashed.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Twenty eight not four straight drives allowed Toddy toy right,
Toddy Tuddy heart.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Left hook by everybody, by everybody in Baltimore kicking while
they laid the hand.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I mean, that was the team that That was the
moment that Matt was was talking about. It is press
conference when they we get knocked down, we're gonna punch
you in the knees. I mean, they was knee punching yesterday,
you know Detroit. Yeah, I mean I guess again, I
did say that that was vintage Baltimore right there, So yeah,
(04:22):
I guess I did learn a little bit more about
about Detroit.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It was the most complete Baltimore Raven win we've seen him. Yes,
it was like that.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And that's kind of scary because they look like the
best team in the AFC North yesterday and looked like
a true contender in the AFC yesterday.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
I mean, Brady brought it up. Man Miles Garrett, he's
a beast. He is unreal.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And he's so flexible, like you see how low he
comes off the ground, but then can can jump like
literally is just jump over you all quickly and then
get back up in the air to block a field.
Dude is like he's a pretty he's like built to
do the things that he does. It's like weird, he's
built like but he's tall, but he'd be low to
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the ground would he be coming up that age? That
that a field goal block?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
That was unbelievable because if you touch, if you touch
somebody on the line of screening, if you touch the
long snapper, it's a penalty.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
And he got all the way up over.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Made the block, all that body up and over that
quickly from from as low as he was on the ground.
That's man, that's it's hit.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
And you need signature moments like that and signature games
to really get in the conversation. And right now he's
tied on DraftKings with Micah Parsons for Defensive.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Player of the Year.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, he definitely gave himself some some real, some real
momentum with that game.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, that was a good one. And I mean, listen,
you know PJ. Walker.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I mean it feels like they've really found something at quarterback.
I mean, doesn't does Deshaun Watson want to play?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know. I mean, does he want to play?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean at some point, I mean, I guess he
can't say he doesn't want to play, because then they
probably be able to go after his money. But does
he want to play?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
How could you not want to play with the defense
like that that you're going to have a shot to win.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You get two hundred and thirty million guaranteed, no matter what.
It's kind of that.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
I mean, now he does it if he retires, But
as long as he just eats this thing out the
next five I mean, they cut him, they can do
whatever they want. Like he plays bad enough, they can't
cut him. They still the two undred thirty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Like the dude goes down and then then they say
the report after the game was he the coaches said
he was fine, they were just monitoring it, being safe,
but he was like more a little down on it.
Like I'm praying and I'm hoping that it isn't as
bad as I thought it was. Like yeah, he's he's
actually the one that's basically reporting on his health to
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the media, which is peculiar.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Everyone else with a medical opinion just clears him pretty much.
I mean, it's like, well, it's kind of similar to this.
You get a killer's it gets a trust fund, right,
two hundred and thirty million dollars.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Then he's like, hey, you would to go out and
get a job.
Speaker 6 (07:01):
He's like not really, no, no, no, I've got two
hundred and thirty million coming. I'm good. That's what it
kind of feels like. Like it's it's human nature, by
the way, too, for if someone wants if you want
to the lotto and you end up netting two hundred
and thirty million, because we always talk about the power
Ball and all that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Like, you'd probably be like, I'm good. Probably not, I'm
probably not gonna do this anymore, right.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
So you're saying I don't have to really play anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
That's what we're saying to John.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And look, Stefanski was saying afterwards that you know, he
was cleared of the concussion proto you know, they checked
him for concussion, he was cleared, and then it was
Stefanski that just decided not to put him in the
game because he wanted to protect his franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Which were which were the words, I.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Want to protect my franchise quarterback. It' say, okay, then
why why did he suit up? Like if that's the case,
why is he playing at all?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
The Browns are going to make a run with PJ.
Speaker 7 (07:59):
Walker starting as their quarterback for the majority of this year,
and they're two hundred and thirty million dollars starting quarterback on.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
The bench, chilling the trust the trust fund. Baby, that's chilling.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's an expensive backup quarterback.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hey wow, wow, you can have whatever opinion you may
want to have on it. He has made me single
handedly ruined the opportunity of any other player every ever again,
I mean ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, every owner.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
Is like exhibit A, this is exactly why we're not
giving you guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
But I said, don't ever come around here again, like never, never, ever, ever,
ever ever come around here again asking for a guarantee contract.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I mean listening, you know, Brady Quinn's been pounding the
table for years on Fox Sports Radio. I wish they
would take the backup quarterback job a little bit more seriously,
start paying these guys and really invest in this, Well,
Cleveland's investing two hundred and thirty million dollars in a
back quarterback, so clearly position, Yeah, Cleveland.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
I told you all, Like I talked with some folks
before the season and they were trying to convince me
he's a top five quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I was like, top five when no, way, I go,
at what.
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Point do you think he was the four and twelve
season when he put up great stats, a lot of
that in garbage time, and it is like, was that
the year you saw that? Like, I don't know that
he had ever at any point in time during his
career been at top five quarterback, but like that was
their their tagline with.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
The top five, top five.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
I'm like, he's not a top five quarter He's never
been a top five quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
So not sure where you get that from.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
And now you've incentivized him to not play because he's
just paid. I mean, the whole situation is incredibly frustrating
as a Browns fan. It's incredibly frustrating as a former
Browns player, because they don't need to do much more
at the quarterback spot in order to make a run
because their defense is so good, because they've got such
(10:02):
a great offensive line and are able to run the football,
and they've got weapons outside too. If you just got
average quarterback play and didn't turn the football over, this
team would be like we look at him and say, yeah,
there may be not the Chiefs, but they can sure
as he compete with the Chiefs and I'll put them
in a one game playoff scenario. I get him a
(10:24):
shot with that defensive running game. If you just had
a quarterback who didn't turn it over and made a
few throws a few plays, man, it's frustrating to me.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Man, I'm sorry the.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
Saw Watson speaking of a few throws and a few
plays complete it one pass for five yards, oh, which
match his interception total. Look, interceptions weren't the same even.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Before he left the game. He wasn't good like they weren't.
He wasn't playing well. They actually got better quarterback play
from Pjak when he came in and.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Up said, you look at the way he was playing,
Jodis is like, does he want to play?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So he did speak afterwards. So here he was one
that one.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Deshaun Watson talking about the decision to not go back
in the game during the game yesterday between the Browns
and the Colts.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I want to go out there and try to have
the team as much as possible and go out there
and play and then perform with your pet. But the
decision was was best for you know, the team, and
they thought that was the best. And you know, PJ
did a great job of finishing the game, and everyone
else played having the job.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
To get the game.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
That might be a horrible person because ever since everything
that's happened, why does it always sound like he's sitting
on a on.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
A sales stand.
Speaker 7 (11:44):
Yes, why does it always sound like he's sitting on
the stand.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah you do?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
You got a guilty conscious?
Speaker 7 (11:55):
You sound like testifying everybody on the advice lawyer decided to.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Return the game. I played other Now play what he
just said yesterday? Yeah, right, play what he just said.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
God, I know, I want to go out there and
try to have the team as much responsible.
Speaker 8 (12:21):
My lawyer right on the decision that was best for
you know, the team, And it.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
Does all sounds it just sounds like, you know, you
know what, I can't help but think of when he
decides that, you know, he's medically clear. This is now
twice that he's been cleared and has not played for
whoever's reasoning or or the reason why he's not played.
But this is now twice that we know of documented
that he's been cleared medically to play and just doesn't play.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
He's guilty of not being the person that they thought
they brought it well, that's why he's interviewing the way that.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
I can't help but think Nick Chubb's got to be
watching this, going, I do anything to be out there
like I would do, like I almost lost my career
on that play, and who knows how I'm gonna recover
from this knee injury that I suffered.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
That was gruesome. It was another knee injury to the
same knee.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
If I'm not mistaken, he's gonna be watching something like
that going seriously, man like, like if they were to
tell me right now, hey, listen, you're cleared.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
But it's up to you. You think Nick.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Chubb or ninety nine percent of players are going to
be like, no, no, no, no, Now, I'm gonna go
ahead and set this one out.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's for the why, that's what's best for the team.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I may not be wait, wait, you make how much money,
It's it's best for the team that you be off
the field even if you're not one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Okay, yeah, it's uh, that's a weird one.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I don't think he wants to play anymore. I think
we've seen the last of Deshaun Watson, and he's going
to play. He's going to stay on the roster. What
I'm saying is is you're not going to see an
elite level caliber quarterback ever again out of him. I
just don't see it. I agree, I just don't see it.
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Like it ain't there, Like did.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
We see it in the first place at any point?
Like that's the thing that.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I say that I know he was good in in Houston, right,
but like I think you could contend, like, really was
he up there amongst the top, Like I don't think
it was ever the case.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Like, and I understand people, well we went to the
Pro Bowl, it's like.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
And and the year he led the league in in
yards and all that that was where like if you
really dissect through some of that garbage, a lot of
stuff came in some blowout losses.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he was impressive in some
of the things that he was able to do. But
to justify some of the conversations in terms of what
he represented in comparison to other quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's not you can't do it.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
He was never a top five quarterback. He was viewed
as somebody who had the potential that you would want
to build your organ your roster around that. He was young,
and that's somebody that for the next ten years, you know,
if he continues to ascend, he could get to that point.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
And it just never happened. And that's the intrigue of it.
When you have the situation where it's kind of turbulent
with what's going on, and I think it was turbulent
times in Houston, and people are looking at it like
he's still performing, So there there was some merits to it,
Like you think about what's going on and with the
Chargers right now, you know, like no, yeah, I'm not
(15:35):
I'm not going to downgrade Herbert. Are we going to
downgrade him?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Man? I mean, I mean, I mean not yet? Yeah,
we tell her or not yet, We'll do that now, damn.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Yeah. But it's just it's not, well, yeah, it's not.
It's just not.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
It's not anything that they thought that they were they
were buying or purchasing and Kevin Stefanski's got to sit
up there and have to answer these questions over and
over again.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
One completion and one interception, and that one completion that
he gave you was for five yards.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, that's I mean, on the season.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
On the season, he's basically getting paid a little over
five hundred thousands so far per completion.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh what a bargain.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
That's in essence what he's got sixty six completions, he's
he's getting paid like forty six million this year.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
In essence. Yes, you are, yes, you are.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Listen, still a damn good division. We'll say that.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
And you know what's t tell you, by the way, Yeah,
damn right, it is tell you vah better believe it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It is two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
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Speaker 5 (17:25):
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three hundred yesterday. So one of three coaches in NFL history,
George Allis, Don Shula being the other two. So rarefied
air for with Bill Belichick and the New England PA.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
What a team to do it against it? Yeah, well
that's kind of they. I gave him a fighting chance
to get that one. That's kind of the.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Bigger story here. The hell's going on with the Buffalo Bills. Man,
It feels like we have this conversation at least every
other week or something along those lines. This is a
weird team that should not have lost that game yesterday,
Yet here we are, what the hell is going on
with the Bills. We got to figure this out. Let's
diagnose something here before we're done with this topic. What
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do you think it is.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
If if I'm being honest and I'm looking at it,
they have to find a way to be more consistent.
I just think looking at how that game went yesterday,
they very easily could have won, probably should have won
that game, and they turned it on at the end
(18:54):
to turn it turn it into an interesting one. It
got away from them, but you allowed you allowed the
emotions of the Patriots to really carry them through the
majority of that game. And you know, they played physical,
they played hard, but you could clearly see that Buffalo
(19:16):
had the ability and the opportunity to be able to
to do much better than what they did. And then
by the time they did it, it was a little too
late for them to do it, and then came down
to the last moments of the game. But you know,
I don't know, man, that they're just wildly inconsistent. If
you ask me like this.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Is why though, I think when people go have they
hit their ceiling. When you watch a game like this,
you're like, Okay, out the gated divisional game on the road.
I mean, I don't think they You look at any
Bill Belichick coach team and go, it's gonna be a
layup right and out the gate. The Patriots came out
(19:59):
and just kind of were from the jump were the
better team. And I look at them, I'm just like, Okay,
they've lost the Jets basically without Rogers, They've lost the Bills,
all right, excuse me?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
The Patriots, Like how how really good are they?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
And I know, like if you look at their losses,
you look at you know, their their schedule the season.
I just think they're so different than how we look
at the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
I mean the Chiefs. Chiefs have ripped off what's sixth straight?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Yeah, now, I mean, it's just it's hard to think
that they can compete on that level. It feels like
it's Kansas City and everyone else in the AFC right now.
And Baltimore looked great, but you know, they've had their
moments where they struggled. And maybe with with Monca now
calling plays and if that's what we can we can
expect based on what we saw this past week. We
(20:52):
can expect them to be in the mix. But man,
I just it, the questions about Buffalo and if they
hit their ceiling are only legitimized when you go and
watch a game like this. And maybe it's the defense
being as banged up as they are, they've suffered a
lot of injuries. Maybe it's that, you know, maybe it's
(21:12):
just the inconsistency sometimes, you know, with the offense in
the passing game, whatever the case may be. It's why
it's hard to buy into the Bills being a Super
Bowl contender. Outside of the fact that Josh Allen's a
tremendous talent. That's really the only thing that you always
come away saying why they have a chance of it.
(21:33):
After that, I'm not sure howse you would be able
to make a case based on how this team's played
so far this year.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
When buff when New England, when Buffalo went down and
scored and took the lead late in that game, I thought, Okay,
that's it, because there's no way this Patriots offense, with
the way it's looked all year long, is going to
be able to go seventy five yards with the amount
of time that.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Was left we're not stopping them.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
And man, they went down the eight plays seventy five
yards in a minute, forty six went down the field
and scored And it's like this, it was almost like
the AFC Divisional game where there's no way the Chiefs
are difference, right, like this, this is the offense everybody's
been making jokes about for weeks, Like they were outscored
(22:18):
what was it like seventy nine to three or something
over a two game stretch, Like they were awful and
went right down the field on the bills, like right
down the field with the game.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
On the line.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And I was happy to see the Patriots win, but
I just come away from that going I just don't
get it. And maybe maybe you're right. Maybe that moment
in the AFC Divisional game where they blew that lead
was their chance and the window just started to slowly close,
and maybe people within that organization knew it, which is
(22:48):
why you had guys like Stefan Diggs have the offseason
that he had. I mean, look, Leslie Frazier just kind
of disappeared. He's doing TV. It's not like he just
took time away to he just kind of walked away,
And yeah, they've got the injuries. It just feels like
there's something there's something off there, And I just I
do wonder is this the type of year if they
(23:08):
don't end up going places? Is this when they start
kicking the tires and maybe making a head coaching change
because somebody's got to be held accountable, and Josh Allen's
already been paid. Like, I just wonder, are they gonna
look at that and go, we got to get somebody
else in here, because maybe this team's just not responding
to Sean McDermott anymore. If that's a real conversation, I'm
(23:30):
just saying, like, Wow, what is the other answer? What's
the other solution? And then you just what tear it
all down? They got pieces there.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
They got more than just pieces. They have what they need.
It's just not that they went healthy healthy.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Their defense is pretty decimated, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
How much do you guys put in that? I mean,
not to switch change subjects, but you did have your
two top cornerbacks out in that Miami game. Does that
and and I guess foreseeably they're coming back.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I should be back.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
Except that's why I think I would love to see
if that ended up being the Super Bowl. I wouldn't
mind seeing it because I'd love to see how those
two quarterbacks matchup with Devonte Smith and A J.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Brown.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
If xavieron Howard and Jalen Ramsey were back and healthy
and all that they made that run, I would love
to see it. But it's I felt like last night's game,
not to segue into that, was an exist example of
how football is still won.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Like we're all happy promoting hey, flag football to.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
The Olympics suite awesome seven on seven, Like oh cool man, Yeah,
that's that's not football, all right, that's not football. That's
not American football. This game is still one with the
physicality and the trenches. And last night was an example
of that. The way Philly I thought dominated the offensive
and defensive line for Miami, and that's that's still how
(25:00):
games are won and lost, and championships are still won
and lost in this league.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
At Taylor, swift to that list too, please.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I mean, Brady, what's your problem with the flag football stuff?
Like why can't you just be happy for these people
they want to go win a gold medal?
Speaker 6 (25:14):
This is the sort of thing though, And I'm not
trying to be a conspiracy theorist of all this. But
this is the sort of thing when they are pushing
certain narratives early on, they're trying to pave the ground
roads for what it may become in the future.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Like that's what this is.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
They're trying to condition people to be okay with the
different type of football that they're trying to play in
seven on seven and flag football all that because they
know for a fact, you don't have to deal with
the head injury concerned, you don't have to deal with
all that stuff, the gruesomeness of what it could look
like when you've got to do just laid out on
the field, it has to be taken off in an ambulance.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Do you think they're trying to attack the game that
you gret oh great again?
Speaker 5 (26:01):
Do you feel like they're Are they trying to modify
part of your childhood, the thing that you delivered you
and brought you so much happiness and joy and competitiveness
in your life. Do you feel like that's why flag
football is such a such a problem.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
I think people are trying to take away masculinity and
like physicality.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
If you want to be a real sounds just sounds.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
I'm sorry, like I'm not standing for that. Okay.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
We need strong people, we need strong men, we need
strong leaders. And the game of football that I know
and love is with is what this country needs.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
That's what we need.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
None of these sissy flags flags, none of the seven
on seven, all way through the air.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
I want air.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
I want by ground, I want by any means necessary,
and it means.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
That's right. That's what I want for me. We will
who physicality to football again.
Speaker 9 (27:07):
Come talking about Brighton Gwinn for President of the National
Football Man.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I would chew epos right now.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
You imagine if they just let me go in for
Roger Goodell and US three would sit up there in
the office and come up with ways just making football
just what football used to be. Like LeVar would be like, yep,
I'm in charge of uh the competition. Guess what.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's all on the table again, all right.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
None of this defenseless receivers crap across the book, none
of this.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Protection for quarterbacks. It's all back.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I'm hiring Lord Taylor and.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Jack Tatum.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Lewis.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
I would literally be expanding rosters. I'd make it so
they have eighty players on the on the roster. Look,
you're gonna need five quarterbacks. We're gonna run.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Through these guys.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Take it a part.
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Speaker 4 (29:00):
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Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh man, Yeah, it's two pros and a cup of Joe.
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Speaker 3 (30:23):
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Speaker 2 (30:33):
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Speaker 5 (30:35):
They are not happy with a group of people who
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Speaker 4 (31:05):
After your sports weekend happens, so it's time to get
the FSR IR.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Report, all right? Who wants to let it fly? And
anybody got anything to report? I mean I had to
go six hours.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
I have a moment to go to the restroom before
during the show with you guys on on Friday. That
that would be my ir, That was hard, you know,
I mean a with a bad will, you know, you know.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Want to just confirmed everything that I've thought. So I've
never traveled as much as we've traveled lately for the show,
and it's been awesome to be a part of the
Graduate Hotels family and all that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
But the one thing that.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I've figured out, all right, I've gotten a little bit
better at packing. All right, I'm a little bit more
you know, I can kind of figure things out as
far as how to fit stuff and consolidate, Like, I
haven't checked a bag, Yeah, no, I have, I have
a checked Damn I haven't checked a bag in forever.
So I'm really proud of myself about that. But the
(32:11):
one thing that I have identified, LAX is the worst
airport on planet Earth. It's it's shocking. Okay, what's worse.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
Uh, DFW has slowly a tough airport.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I might have to go with Q on that one.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
D FW is one of the most disappointing hubs that
you can land in on on everything.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
There's people who will talk about how convenient it is
because you can literally walk right out from your gate,
out into a car and head out or right in.
Their security doesn't offer as many like TSA pre or
faster expedited lines. There's longer lines now, but like the
airport itself just needs updating.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
And then by the way, getting from like one terminal
to the other can't walk. You gotta take a tram
or you gotta take a shuttle. Like it's it's kind
of a disaster, man. That's it didn't used to be
that way. I'm not sure what's happened, but it's become
in my opinion, one of the more difficult airports to deal.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
But they do have papados. They got bro that's some
good food.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, look this up right now.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Brady got the I R. Who else?
Speaker 6 (33:32):
Not really honestly, Like it was pretty clean weekend for
me for the most part. Like I really can't, man,
I really can't.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
We're saying much, man, Yeah, I'll give another one.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I haven't been faded in a long time, like straight faded.
But it's kind of cool. I went out with my guys.
We we flew back and we got into l A
and we went to to a spot, a famous spot.
I was unaware of the spot. We were in Beverly
Hills and we were drinking. We did like a ten
(34:05):
course meal or something like that, and it was like
ten different wine bottles to go with each thing that
you ate. Right, So the chef comes out and greets
us at the table and we're talking. I'm like, dude,
you're a super cool dude and you're super cool looking.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I was like, what's your name? And he started laughing.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Everybody at the table started laughing with me, and I'm like,
we're laughing. What's the joke. Like, I don't get it.
And then my guy hits me on the shoulder and
I'm like, my name's LeVar. He goes, my name's Wolfgang.
I said, okay, that is a no pass name. I said,
(34:48):
that's like the like Wolfgang, like the one you know,
like you got the composer and you got the you
got the composer and you got the sh the chef.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I was like, wait, wait, what your wolf game punk?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
So I met wolf Gang Punck this year and I
was fried by the time. We had a great conversation.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Yeah, so how old is Wolfgang Puck? He didn't look old.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Seventy four, Yeah, he didn't look that old. It looked
really good man.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
So did his food.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And I'm not really one to venture into doing different
things and different flavors and all that stuff. Like I
kind of keep it simple. Give me some steak and
some French fries and I'm good. But this was it was.
They were small plates and it was it was really good.
And I happened to have pizza with caviar on it.
That's the first for me. Oh it was good, really, Sam.
(35:46):
It was a salmon pizza with caviar. Yeah, yeah, like
like literally nine ten glasses of different wines. Yeah, and
we went from light wines to red one.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Now there's there's people in the four one two who
have heard you wax poetically about French fries on everything.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Now you're at Caveyar level.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, but I still like French fries and I had
in in Ohio the night I went out.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
With that up on Game Networks. Really it's throwing yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Really. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
By the way, I've got an IR story though, come on,
come on, let's get an IR story.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
It's yours, LeVar.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
So I feel like after we had a detailed discussion
about some of the ailments you're dealing with, Yes, I
think we zeroed in on what exactly it is.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, I think I think you're probably right. I mean
I've been told that. I just I have selective hearing.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
I talked to my buddy last night who deals with that,
and he was like, yeah, it's one hundred percent what
it is.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
What is Like, I know we can fix this quick.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah you know it rhymes with bout.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Oh yeah, it's one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Okay, we're going to fix it.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Get figure out. But it hurts, I'll tell you that. Yeah,
as hurts.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, but I found the way to walk into that
game and walk out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
And I did did my live spot with with Jees
people also crutches.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
I have another ir a near i R for LeVar airings.
Where does everything got come out?
Speaker 5 (37:12):
Well, just because I noticed this spot, it was a
great spot.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Was the bee tried to ruin it though? There was
just all that.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Yeah, there was a bee that was trying to go
inside your ear and and mark Ingram was trying to.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Try to get it.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Then they went to the other side. Mark was trying
to take care to swats out the mark. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Yeah,
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