October 25, 2023 • 39 mins
Brady takes on Deshaun Watson’s private QB coach, Quincy Avery. Iowa Sam continues to defend his Iowa Hawkeyes following a “controversial” call vs Minnesota. Plus, the midweek awards on “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, lebar, what do you know about it? Nothing? No, nothing?
Although Brady went down into deep on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Ec, what do people take Twitter?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So seriously?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What you know about rolling down in the deep with.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hey, let's man, you might get what you look for.
You try to go down in the deep with Q.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (01:06):
He is the uh, the wood chipper of social media.
Stick your hand in there. See what happens. Pull back
a stub and that's what happened. Deshaun Watson's fanboy? Is
he still his throwing coach? A fanboy like? Is he
still throwing coach?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's not even cool anymore? Are fanboys played out? Like limousines. Yeah, Like,
don't you feel a certain type of way when you
see a celebrity get out of a limo, Like, doesn't
it seem kind of weird when you see a fanboy
with with or somebody that fanboys another guys like kind
of played.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Out, you know what I mean? That bit feels like it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Like What's what's funny about the entire situation is then
you get a d bag like Mike Florio who has
to use it for content because he can't come up
with his own content. That's that's what makes me laugh
about all of it, is like, can't you just write
your own stuff?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Can't you just come up with your own stuff?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I mean, are we that do we lack any sort
of creativity or our own genuine thought?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Is that how it works.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Now for people to piggyback off of.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
No, Here's what it is is. It's a business, right.
It's all about aggregation. Like it's all about people getting clicks,
people getting attention. So if they see something that's grabbing
people's attention on social media or on the Internet, they
just gravitate towards it and that's.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Their business model. It's that way for a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Of folks too, by the way, But unfortunately it is
what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And look, if you don't want that smoke, that's the
wural of this story.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
This all gets started, though, if we're being really honest
and transparent about it, it all gets started because we have
Fox Sports Radio clipped off a portion and put a
headline that then allowed people to click on it. Now,
is that the entire context to our conversation? No? No,
does any article write the entire context to our conversation? No?
(03:07):
So no, one's going to click back and listen to
our entire show. We've already been through this in the
past year with everything in regards to CJ. Strattam what
we had talked about, and then how his agent was
so scared of this narrative getting out of something that
he knew was out there that he came to his
defense and put on this whole social media botzon campaign.
(03:28):
Like that's how easy it is to dupe everyone out
there and not know the actual true context to anything
that's being discussed. So I made a comparison about when
you get paid a lot of money, do you have
as much of an incentive to go out there and
do something?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
And the answer is no, and so we end up
using it.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Then other people click on it, it gets accurate, it
gets pushed, it gets pushed, and then everyone wants to comment.
And look, Quincy is he's Deshaun's quarterback coach, he's some
other player's quarterback coaches and all that, and look, that's
his opinion. He has the ability to stand on whatever
he feels like he wants to say and defend a
Sean in whatever manner he wants. But I think there's
also a lot of other people out there who will
(04:10):
look at the situation. And I have my own perspectives.
I was a fan of the Browns. I played for
the Browns as a quarterback, tried to play through an
injury there, Like, I know what it's like to be
in those situations and shoes. I don't know what it's
like to make two hundred thirty million dollars, but I
know what it's like to come from a middle class
family to work my ass off to get to a
certain point in life. And I know my perspective if
(04:33):
I was in that position, and so if people want
to take issue with it, so be it. But as
far as the Twitter stuff, like, come on, dude, have
some fun. It's Twitter or x whatever we're calling it, Like,
stop taking it so serious.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He did say, we're going to table this until he
sees you. Yeah, you guys were.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Which by the way, like and everyone I want it's
to act like a tough guy on Twitter next. Apparently
he saw me. I didn't see you, so come up now.
Yeah I'm already there. I'm already there, homie.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
But that's the thing is like, come talk to me then,
Like if you got an issue with it, come talk
to me, Like, don't sit on a keyboard, don't sit
by your phone, come talk to me. And then you say, well,
I saw you. If you did see me, why don't
you come and talk to me. Then if you got
a problem, come talk to me. Not hard to find,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I mean, it's like you saw me, I didn't see you.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Sorry, dude. But that's the problem with all this is
people people want to take things really super seriously on
Twitter next and make a big deal about it, and
I just I've never viewed it as that. I never
have and for the people.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Outside of like getting like because a lot of guys
gained credibility through catching on with a certain player if
that player is a high profound name, you catch on,
Like he said, you don't know what the f you're
talking about, and you guys like a little chick.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just does he have.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The credentials to to be able to throw throw his
like throw it around like that?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So who is he? Did he play? Did he get drafted?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
There's a backstory here, all right.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
And I don't even know if Brady, if you remember this,
but this is how his whole issue with with Brady
and Fox Sports Radio started. So when Deshaun Watson was
demanding to be traded from the Houston Texans, I can
remember because this was before we started to yeah bro
like because we were still doing the Sunday night show.
I was doing it out of my mom's garage. Yeah,
(06:36):
So this is like way back during COVID. So this
is during COVID, and I remember we we were one
of the few people that were actually saying like defending
the Texans and saying, wait a second, he's trying to
make it seem like this is an awful organization. And
he was upset because he traded DeAndre Hopkins. He signed
a contract extension after DeAndre Hopkins was traded and Deshaun
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Watson was sitting there crying, banking, the organization and everybody involved,
Bill O'Brien, everybody, the McNair, so on and so forth,
and so we were defending the text and say, wait
a second, this doesn't make sense. Deshaun Watson's trying to
give you a story and people are trying to take
it down a direction that doesn't add up if you
actually know the history of how this deal got done
and his time there in Houston.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So how did he respond?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Quincy Avery saw that and went after Brady either it
might have been DMS or on social media, and that's
when this whole thing. He's had it out for FSR
ever since then, so much so that Clay Travis commented
on the what Brady's tweet yesterday and was just saying, man,
Brady just eviscerated Quincy Avery. Quincy Avery went at Clay Travis.
(07:40):
They went back and forth. Obviously Clay used to do
this show in this timeslot, so there's been something against
Brady by.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Let me put it this way, I've got a lot
of people who've hit my DMS who are like, good
for you, and like, here's the truth of the matter.
Is and like, again, Quincy's going to have his own
opinions on things, and he's you know, that's what everyone's
allowed to have in this country. That's what makes this
country great. The truth of the matter is, though I
try to be objective about all this, like people will
(08:08):
be like, oh, what do you have something out for?
I have nothing out for Deshaun Watson. Nothing. In fact,
Like when he signed that deal, even though he's questionable
under the circumstances under which he signed it, I was like,
this is great for football, this is great for players.
Deshaun Watson in one contract, has done more for players
as far as trying to push the envelope forward to
(08:28):
guaranteed contracts than anyone in the history of the NFL.
I'll say that again. We'll see if Fox Sports Radio
clips this off. Deshaun Watson has done more for NFL
players than anyone in the history of the NFL with
the guaranteed five year deal that he signed as far
as the business of football, that is more significant than
(08:49):
ever as far as trying to push the envelope towards that.
Now that being said, how this whole thing's playing out,
it's the first time we've seen something like this. So
we're now getting to a point where you're like, oh,
maybe this isn't gonna work out so well for others
because of how the last year went, how this year
is going so far. And look, and we've said this before,
(09:12):
only they know this truth specifics to the injuries, what
he's dealing with. You know, we touched around the idea like, look,
if it's for him mental health too, Like he needs
to get himself right in the back headspace, you know,
right in the back frame of mind, in headspace he
needs to in order to play and be the player
that they're hoping he'll be. So like we can have
like those conversations about all of this, but the reality
(09:33):
is if people are going to make a big deal
about tweets and all that, like I'm here for fun,
Like I'm not sitting on Twitter or x and trying
to sit there and have some serious conversation about it.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Like, look, what happened in the past, happened.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And if you can't laugh about and make fun of it,
I'm sorry you don't have a sense of humor, Like
you need you need to go find something to laugh
about and enjoy in life. And look, there's some seriousness
to potentially the situation that occurred, but the reality is
like it's out there and it's it's always gonna be
the case. Like I'm sorry, Like I don't know that
many people are gonna be able to get pass some
(10:07):
of the stuff that had transpired and the stories that
came out from all that. But in regards to the
long standing story of quick like that's what a lot
of guys are, Like a lot of guys will send
dms and fire up on Twitter, like that's the reputation,
you know. It's like, no, dude, Like this is just
a social media platform. It's insignificant to real life. It
does not matter in everyone's real life out there.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'm just not real Trying to go back to what
made him feel comfortable enough to say, you don't know
what you're talking about, Like I'm trying to understand his
accolades again to understand.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
But think about any of the top quarterback coaches out there,
now you hear like Tom House was a baseball pitching
coach and then he got into football and coaching. Like now, granted,
Tom is to me the best in the business at
doing it. Him and Adam Data and those guys do
a fantastic job, right, but some of the most reputable people.
I mean, look, I love George Whitfield. George is an
(11:05):
Ohio guy, came from Masslin. But you know, George, I
think I played a little bit of Arena League, played
college ball at Youngstown. It's not like, you know, he's
you know, a former Hall of Fame quarterback. And so
to me, it doesn't necessarily matter what Quincy has done
in his playing career hasn't done, because I'm sure there's
a lot more has not than actual what he's done.
(11:26):
The reality is if a quarterback feels like he can
work with him and get better, that's all that matters.
And it doesn't matter if that's a high school, college
or NFL. And like I said, I don't care if
he wants to take a shot or if he thinks
he's you know, he's got more knowledge on this situation.
That's fine, that's his opinion. He's allowed that. I mean,
we live in a world where like some of the
best teachers I've ever had didn't necessarily have real world
(11:48):
experience in that industry. You'd like them to, but they
don't always have that, But they're able to teach it
in a way that gets you to understand.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, I just I get sticking up for your guys
and your clientele.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's all it is is. It's an emotional response. It's
an emotional response.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But I can't say which is more.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
High school gossipy than anything else.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I just can't say.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I took too well too kindly to him threatening you
like that, Just that that kind of rubbed me the
wrong way.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Thread.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I showed a response.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And then when they then they see us face to face,
then you can have your moment, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I mean they would have caught us while we were
in Columbus. I wouldn't have been able to help you
too much. Yeah, yeah, I would might have been on
your Hey, hold it down, buddy, hold it down.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Let me give a I would have been holding Lee's
hair while he was throwing up in a trash.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But then again, when you watch Boys in the Hood,
I mean Chris was in a wheelchair and they're strapped
to do it up on No boy strapped to do
it up on his on the street with Chris came
on down to the got him some, he got him trash.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Can I'll be real, most most of the dudes to
talk like that. Then they see they see me in person,
like Big.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I didn't realize as that you look like and you
you kind of like look like you really would handle yourself.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, I don't have the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And then after seeing the meat Wagon and the rest
of the crew.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah you might, they kind of forget.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
They're like, oh they hang around Big. Yeah, everyone's been.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Kind of move You might. You might have more problems
on you. You know what you want.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
You know, it wasn't under the radar funny moment. It's
when the meat Wagon's at the Homage Bar in Columbus
and LeVar just looks at him and goes, you wore
a Neckrol didn't because it looks like he's still wearing it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He looked like he's still wearing it. He walks like
he's still wearing his shoulder pads with a neck roll.
And by the way, the whole comedic front, how could
you not admire the name.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Massage Watson, I mean Towl Watson. Yeah, Massage Watts.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Dude. I had a couple more in the chamber. I
was like, all right, should I just fire this off
or just let this die? And when my girls were like, Dad, let's.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Go look at some of the Halloween decorations.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Like all right, I can have time for this. So,
I mean, that's the reality of it is. I can't
take x Twitter, whatever you want to call it. I
can't take it seriously, and I can't take people who
take it seriously serious because I'm like, do you know
what I'm I'm literally putting my daughter's shoes on before
we walking out the door, before I fire off a tweet,
and then it never has any impact whatsoever. This one,
(14:23):
like we're we're acting like it's that serious. Like it's
just it's crazy to me how people react to something
like social media.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Like that it's their thing, the.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Bane of our existence as a society.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's their thing.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
And Elon paying forty billion dollars to run a professional
wrestling organization basically.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Just table this.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
See you, Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about, Like, yes,
he does, nobody's talking about he actually does. I would
have been off this show of yeah, I know which
I was talking about. I'm going to be messing.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
With my record. What are you all putting me?
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A little over twenty from now here from the ti
iraq dot com studios. So on Monday, we were talking
about this controversial play involving Iowa and Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Do you want to go back over the play just
to build it up a little bit, the suspense of
this play.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Under two minutes left to go, Minnesota punted the ball.
It was twelve to ten, I believe was the score
for Minnesota. So twelve ten was the score. Fun fact,
the total in that game, the over under was thirty
and a half, which we haven't seen an over under
that low in like twenty years. And so they were
(16:45):
sitting at twenty seth.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
True. Yeah, I think the last time Iowa Minnesota playto
was pretty low.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It was thirty one. Okay, so we haven't seen anything
like this.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
They're sitting at twenty two with under two minutes left
to go, and uh, if you'd like to hear how
it sounded, take it away.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
This was the call on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
High end over end punt, Degene not gonna touch it
until now.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Little spin down.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
The side line cuts some space here he comes cool?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
What desine cuts a bet?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Twenty five?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He's gonna checks these goals now there is That was
NBC on the call.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Hey, Paul Burmeister, Man, Paul does a great job.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, he's awesome. By the by the way, Paul Burmeister sneaky,
big dude too. I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
We played quarterback at Iowa. Here was a captain. He
was like the team MVPs final, you're there, he's good.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So he uh you know.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
There was a correction to this because Iowa was celebrating
and happy about the punt return for the touchdown, and
then the official stepped in and said, nah, not so
fast for.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Reviewing the play.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
The returner waved his left hand, which is an invalid.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Fair pet said, but for my rule, the ball became
He've done a part of recovery.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
All be placed at the forty six yard line.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Now, Iowa. Sam was very upset with the call and
the decision. There was a little bit of a dust
up on Monday between him and Brady Quinn over the decision.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
PJ.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Fleck, the head coach of Minnesota dust up always.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I just like the term dust up. It's just fun. PJ.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Fleck, the head coach of Minnesota, always honest, always calls
it like it is. He discussed the controversy of this
play at a press converence yesterday.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
There's nothing controversial, diet, nothing controversial.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
All sides is all sides. Fall starts, a fall start,
a hold as a whole.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Invalid fair catch signals an invalid fair catch signal.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Now, the way the rule states is invalid fair catcher.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Everybody thinks it's above your shoulder and has to look
like a fair catch.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's not part of the rule.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
The other part of the rule that was implemented years
ago is the poison rule. When you poison her Peter call,
you cannot advance that ball.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You can point to a ball, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
But with one hand, you can't shoe away people at all.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
We got called for that weeks ago, if you remember,
we shoot people away from the ball, caught it, wanted
to return it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And it was blown dead.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
The only thing that should have happened, right, and I'm
not a referee, nor my playing anyone, is.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It should have been just blown dead.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Right there. Don't even let that play happen because it
doesn't exist. The play doesn't even exist because it's a
poison and a Peter call and it's a dead ball.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Controversy about it So that was Minnesota head coach PJ.
Fleck on the quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I'll let you guys like put more color to it,
but I agree with what coach Fleck said. You know
one hundred percent. You know you can't wave guys off.
You can't fake what could be perceived as as a
fair catch, an action of a fair catch. You just
can't do it hands what's hand direction or whatever it
(20:05):
may be. Now, if he had his hands down the
entire time below his waist and he's telling people to
get away from the ball, then that's different. You still
can pick that ball up and advance that ball. But
that just isn't that. I mean, that's not what I saw.
It kind of had the look to it like it
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was a fair catch signal. You can't do that. You
can't be close to having a fair catch signal signal.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I mean, I just I watched it again because I
was like, maybe I missed something, and I can understand,
you know, maybe it's nitpicking or maybe you know, well
you look at.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It, but it is.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
It is the rule, like and you may not like it,
but it is the rule as stated in the rule book.
Just like listen, I don't think I should have gotten
a you know, a ticket for blowing past that stop sign.
There shouldn't be a stop sign here, Well there is,
and you blew past it, so that you get a ticket.
Does feel like that's where we're at, and it was.
The play was blown dead and obviously you know Iowa
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fans because there was a lot of excitement over which
By the way, those jersey combinations those are sweet, Sam,
those are those are hot.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
They are I do like the yellow, but every time
they wear yellow. Last time they were yellow like that
was against Penn State and they lost. There's something bad
about wearing yellow jerseys.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, real quick, we are defining that as yellow, right,
because there's the person on our Fox Big New kickoff
crew and she was trying to state that it was
gold and.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Me and Eddie have gotten into this discussion. He just
likes to term black and gold and Iowa, I guess
you'd say is their colors are black and gold. I
think it's yellow. I think Purdue wears gold. I think
Notre Dame wears gold on their helmet. Yeah, Minnesota has
golden helmet.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yellow black and gold though, Yeah, argument that wasn't the
song that most recently.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Black and yellow.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, they do say, well that's with Khalifa, but but
in yellow black.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And gold semantics, I call it yellow a gold whatever,
gold yellow, fine, it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Can we get to the point of this conversation though,
because LeVar is in agreement with the way it was officiated.
I said at the time, like, unless you knew the call,
I could see how you could be confused. But it was.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Properly officiated and called.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And yet I think there's only one person left that
might have a disagreement.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Are you still in agreement or disagreement? I don't. I
think that a couple of things here. I understand what PJ.
Fleck is saying.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
His explanation, Well, that's actually the NCAA or Big Ten
officials were saying that too. That's where this all from.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
The oh I was actually trying to get distract us
as we Yeah, and I saw that the Big Ten
came out like on Monday and explained it. I just
here's the thing. I don't like that it was called
after the fact the play, the Minnesota players, the coverage
team from Minnesota, the Iowa players, everybody was sort of
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interpreting it as a live plays for after the fact
for you to.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Think guys stop what you didn't think players stop?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I think that I didn't. I didn't really see them
pulling up.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I think everybody interpreted some of those guys stopped.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They did because because he caught it this other thing.
Did we hear him call? Did anybody? Can anybody verify
whether he said it or not? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
But you don't have to say it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's you yell it out, Isn't that the thing? And
then that that helps the officials know that you're.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
On the football field, Sam, Sometimes you can't hear everything,
Like you know, guys like they say play through the whistle,
sometimes they don't hear the whistle, so like and like
it's a little different. So when he's pointing and kind
of waving telling people to get away and guys get
away and stop, it's kind of evident that clearly he
was yelling or saying something, and.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
That was what they made the point on the broadcast, which,
by the way, in real time I thought everybody involved Burmeister.
I don't know who's doing the color on the call
but him, and then the officials were like got it
right almost immediately. They had the person who was their
replay official working for NBC or working for Peacock, who
did a great job as well too, just saying listen,
(24:07):
when he points to the ball, that's him telling the
guys on his team to get back the balls right there,
Like that's the getaway signal with his hand.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And that was kind of I thought he was pointing
at a guy to throw a block for.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Him, Right, that's what you do. You'd point out at
the ground, Like, No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
He was pointing at level at guy.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Coming because that happens all the time, right.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I get the saving off part.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's right. Pubrick Turners. They point, they go, hey you
block him, you block him.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
All will sort of like, hey, that's right.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Point usually after they feel the ball, not before it's
even hit the ground.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, well there was guy's closing in on the ball. Okay,
Well you can laugh all you want, but I get
you have to understand that there's ambiguity in fault.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
This is not.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I'm not going to take the Okay, Well, there are
a lot of people that disagreed with it. No, that's
not true. That's not true at all. It was it
was ambiguous and you could have you could have just
let the play stand because it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Is ambiguous also amphibious that it was both. I mean
if that was if that was at a pool, I
would have it would have.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Been called some would call it sambiguous. There you go
about that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Listen, I understand the explanations. Now, I get it. Listen,
this all is just distracting from the fact that Iowa
their offense is completely broken, and it's just it's just
something to be angry about and furious about while the
issue boils into the surface that you know, Brian Ferrence
is completely incompetent at his job.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Can I tell you really what that game was about.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That game was about whoever could win scoring the fewest
amount of points.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Like you could say Iowa's offense is broken.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I actually think both Minnesota and Iowa, given their history
of low scoring games, it's genius. Like each side's like,
all right, we want to score, but not too much.
We want to stay under we want to stayed under
the total. So we would have scored just enough to win,
but not too much to make this thing purely big
ten Iowa Minnesota Historic Robbery Football for the Floyd of Rosetown.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's really the last two years though. I mean before that,
Iowa Alisoda engaged in normal battles. I mean of like you.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Know, normal like tass thirty.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Twenty three, seventeen. No, no, I mean you know enough.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
No, but like no, one's trying to get the thirty.
They're like now they've like added up. They're like, alright,
let's try not to get the fifteen. Okay, let's just
keep it right has been.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I mean, you went from last year thirteen to ten
Iowa to this year twelve to ten Minnesota. Is it
gonna be like.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Way down next year? You're working the way down the
six to three six.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
In five years will be three. It'll be one team
scores three points and the team scores two points.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
And you know, the sports books are going to have
a comedic bone about this because they're gonna go all right,
So in twenty twenty two, the over under was like
thirty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This past year was thirty and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
I would just make it nine and a half and
see what they got in I'm sure, and they just
run up that, you know as well.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I think these guys are trying to thread the needle
in this matchup, like like Kirk parents walks out a PJ. Fleck.
He's like, all right, you know the rule. Okay, we're
not gonna get this thing going until the final few minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
First you beat us with four field goals? How about that? Yeah,
I mean, but here's another thing too. Iowa got the ball. Okay,
so it's the touchdowns waved off. Iowa gets the ball
with the minute I think a minute fourteen to go,
and they were at the forty eight yard line, their
own forty eight yard line. They were in. All they
had to do is maybe get twenty to twenty five
thirty yards to get in field goal range. And they
couldn't even do that because I just so putrid.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Well I disagree, how so, because then you don't allow
your number one player to come back out on the
field and punt. Oh I'm just saying, wow, that is
a work of art.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
They were in position to they were in position where
they kind have just had a minimal drive to win
that game, and they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Understand the yard. It's a beautiful thing watching Iowa punt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean, Tory Taylor should win the Ray Guy Award.
He is quite good.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
But yeah, I mean, it's it's already in hand. I mean,
I'd put them up there in top ten for Heisman.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
He has been making like a joke Heisman list lately.
But anyway, I just want to say that I understand
the explanations. People can still be a little mad about it,
but they can accept it and move.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Oh that's dude, We're hoping you'd be mad about it.
I mean, that's the thing is we want you to
be I think they mean.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Listen, Jonas brought this up too, like Iowa has dominated
the series. This is how, this is what it took
for PJ. Fleck to get his first win against Dile.
It's okay, Geese and that you know it'll be a
next year, be a grudge match. And there may be
a little asterisk attached to this for Iowa fans. You know,
maybe they'll put a little asterisk on on Floyda Rose Dyland.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I will see.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Tell me if you guys notice a common theme here,
I'm noticing like I'm looking at the lowest scoring teams
in college football and all of college football. I mean,
nobody scores less than Kent State, who scores twelve and
a half points a game, But I'm looking at low
scoring teams and like near the bottom of the list,
I'm seeing Indiana, Nebraska, Michigan State, Iowa, Northwestern Minnesota, Illinois.
(28:59):
I mean, the big times back. I just want to
point that out in most of those teams are with division.
Where's that the big old fat West, the bad, bad
frontier of the West.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I like it. Man good for that. I mean, so
this is the this is the sad for everybody can eat.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
You get quality football, you go out West, you get
crap a struggle.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Let me just I'll shut up about this. But Iowa
took a back seat for a week to Wisconsin being
in the division lead. Wisconsin hosts Ohio State this weekend.
I think they're gonna get blown out, They're gonna lose,
and Iowa, sadly is gonna be right back in front
in the West ead because it's just setting up a
pantsing in the Big Ten championship game. It's gonna be Michigan,
(29:39):
Ohio State or Penn State. Absolutely sixty two to three something.
We got we got some, we got some work to
It's just setting up Iowa to get embarrassed again like
they got embarrassed two years ago against Michigan.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Gonna be honest, this is very cathartic, Sam, like, I
feel like you're getting it all out.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, it's it's fun. Iowa actually has like the third
or fourth best winning percentage in the last five years
in the Big Ten. But they're doing it with this
offense that's like it's like they're playing with a hand
tied behind their back. It's minimalist offense. It's like a lifestyle.
So I know, people pretty efficient, you know, efficient, and
it's it's tir yeah, but you know what, at least
they gamble on games, so they do have a person
(30:19):
out anymore, a little edge to them. But anyway, I
think people listening have had their Philip Iowa football.
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Brady Quinn on Twitter High Noon with Avery. I mean
I'm just saying quarterbacks, I mean quarterback and quarterback coach.
I mean I wonder who would have the quicker gun
in the Wow West. So I think Quincy got Johnny Ringo.
Just what happened? Yeah, huh that one, whoever is the
(32:27):
huckleberry is going to win clearly obviously.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Do you know what's funny?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
People were responding and they were saying hard right hand
by Quinn.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Yeah, I thought that was you.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
There was a number of two pros and a cup
of Joe references being made in the NBA comments.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
You know which one was the best? One is some guy?
Some guy tweeted lebar and went, you take tips, don't you?
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Well?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
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Speaker 6 (33:02):
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Of course, there.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, lead the lap, who's got what?
Speaker 10 (33:53):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good, and this week Jonas gives us the good.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Well, this is easy for me.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
At the Graduate in Columbus, Ohio at Homage Bar, that
was awesome. It was fun to get to see everybody
you know, listeners showed up, It was fun to get
to meet the staff there.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Obviously.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Christine with Graduate Hotels was phenomenal to work with. She
helped put the whole thing together and to be able
to get to do a show a remote like that
in kind of an intimate setting like that, just hanging out,
sitting at a bar doing radio, having a good time,
seeing the meat wagon, seeing Pat walk in. For those
of you longtime listeners of Brady Quinn on the show,
(34:34):
those are two regulars. And getting to see everybody and
just to see the whole scene. The design to be
at another hotel by Graduate, which has done so well,
was awesome to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So that's my good for the week. An awesome time
to be ad.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
That was good, But you can't have good without the bad. LeVar,
what was bad this week? My health, my hackle, my gieutis?
It was bad? It was really good.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
What it is?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I confirmed it when I went in It is indeed gout? Yeah,
and I got an injection. I am now feeling much
much much more relief and feeling better.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
So I'm on the men's We we.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Put together a plan as to how to approach, you know,
the prevention of of having this got Sam, you got
a quick questions.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I just have a question about gout. Got Is it
cost by too much salt? Or is that something else?
It's all kinds of right, isn't it like acid builds up? Yes?
I thought it was okay, Yeah, but it's triggered from
are you ingesting too much salt? Is my question as possible.
I don't hear you get enough so much people don't
get enough salts. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I could not be ingesting enough. So I tend to
think it's when I eat red meat or when I'm
drinking alcohol that that's when this happens. You know, could
be good, be I mean, I'm not a lush or
anything like that. It's not like I have like this.
You know, I have one, maybe two drinks? What now
that makes me an alcoholic? Like that's not like anything
(36:08):
like that. But I'm just saying to keep a story short.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm you.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Know, I'm feeling better now, but it was bad for
like two and a half weeks.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
It's uric acid, right, That's what the build up is.
It's uric acid.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I didn't ask for it.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I didn't know anything about gout until a few years ago.
And I think when I saw you the first time,
when you were describing it to me, I was like, man,
it kind of sounds like what my buddy had but
he told me it's awful and that he missed a
couple of days of work, and he told me about gout.
I had no idea, and he just said, like red
meat for him was what did it like? You could
(36:43):
no longer have steak? And he loves steak, but he
just couldn't do it because it would flare up and
it would shut him down.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
So Ruffalomar, But you're back. I am back.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Are you feeling that much better?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
The treatment, yes, like that's.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
A trillion time, like almost back to normal. Oh yeah,
I mean I feel the obviously, the the residual results.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
This calls for a lebar island into it.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I was drinking the while I was in pain. I'm
not going to stop now that I'm not in pain.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Damn, I'm back. Maybe yeah, glad The bad is getting better,
but from bad two worse. What was ugly this week, Brady.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Well, probably what concluded last night.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
The Diamondbacks are headed to the World Series winning the NLCS.
And what was ugly is probably the manner in which
I guess the Phillies lost. They blew what was a
two o lead. They were up three to two obviously
as well and ended up losing the series, and I
believe their payroll, if I'm not mistaken, is about ninety
(37:49):
million dollars more than that of the youthful Diamondbacks, who
quite frankly just played better. You know, the Bats kind
of showed up when they needed him to. There was
some time where there are some pitching issues I think
for the Phillies, and look, the Phillies just stop hitting,
you know, it's just some of the homers and some
(38:09):
of the different shots that we saw early in the
series ended up not being the case in the end.
So it got kind of ugly in that series towards
the end for the Phillies, which I thought basically once
they started off to and I thought for sure they're
gonna be in the World series, was kind of looking
forward to it, and honestly, they're just a fun team
to watch. Love Bryce Harper and came to a disappointing end,
(38:32):
unfortunately for Philly fans out there.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Kind of disappointing for Fox as well too. I feel
like Phillies.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Are a fun watch and so you mean for ratings, Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, lebar, what do you know about it? Nothing? No, nothing?
Although Brady went down into deep on Twitter?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Ec, what do people take Twitter?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
So seriously?
Speaker 2 (00:54):
What you know about rolling down in the deep with.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Hey, let's man, you might get what you look for.
You try to go down in the deep with Q.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (01:06):
He is the uh, the wood chipper of social media.
Stick your hand in there. See what happens. Pull back
a stub and that's what happened. Deshaun Watson's fanboy? Is
he still his throwing coach? A fanboy like? Is he
still throwing coach?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's not even cool anymore? Are fanboys played out? Like limousines. Yeah, Like,
don't you feel a certain type of way when you
see a celebrity get out of a limo, Like, doesn't
it seem kind of weird when you see a fanboy
with with or somebody that fanboys another guys like kind
of played.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Out, you know what I mean? That bit feels like it.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Like What's what's funny about the entire situation is then
you get a d bag like Mike Florio who has
to use it for content because he can't come up
with his own content. That's that's what makes me laugh
about all of it, is like, can't you just write
your own stuff?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Can't you just come up with your own stuff?
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I mean, are we that do we lack any sort
of creativity or our own genuine thought?
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Is that how it works.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Now for people to piggyback off of.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
No, Here's what it is is. It's a business, right.
It's all about aggregation. Like it's all about people getting clicks,
people getting attention. So if they see something that's grabbing
people's attention on social media or on the Internet, they
just gravitate towards it and that's.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Their business model. It's that way for a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Of folks too, by the way, But unfortunately it is
what it is.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And look, if you don't want that smoke, that's the
wural of this story.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
This all gets started, though, if we're being really honest
and transparent about it, it all gets started because we have
Fox Sports Radio clipped off a portion and put a
headline that then allowed people to click on it. Now,
is that the entire context to our conversation? No? No,
does any article write the entire context to our conversation? No?
(03:07):
So no, one's going to click back and listen to
our entire show. We've already been through this in the
past year with everything in regards to CJ. Strattam what
we had talked about, and then how his agent was
so scared of this narrative getting out of something that
he knew was out there that he came to his
defense and put on this whole social media botzon campaign.
(03:28):
Like that's how easy it is to dupe everyone out
there and not know the actual true context to anything
that's being discussed. So I made a comparison about when
you get paid a lot of money, do you have
as much of an incentive to go out there and
do something?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
And the answer is no, and so we end up
using it.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Then other people click on it, it gets accurate, it
gets pushed, it gets pushed, and then everyone wants to comment.
And look, Quincy is he's Deshaun's quarterback coach, he's some
other player's quarterback coaches and all that, and look, that's
his opinion. He has the ability to stand on whatever
he feels like he wants to say and defend a
Sean in whatever manner he wants. But I think there's
also a lot of other people out there who will
(04:10):
look at the situation. And I have my own perspectives.
I was a fan of the Browns. I played for
the Browns as a quarterback, tried to play through an
injury there, Like, I know what it's like to be
in those situations and shoes. I don't know what it's
like to make two hundred thirty million dollars, but I
know what it's like to come from a middle class
family to work my ass off to get to a
certain point in life. And I know my perspective if
(04:33):
I was in that position, and so if people want
to take issue with it, so be it. But as
far as the Twitter stuff, like, come on, dude, have
some fun. It's Twitter or x whatever we're calling it, Like,
stop taking it so serious.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
He did say, we're going to table this until he
sees you. Yeah, you guys were.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Which by the way, like and everyone I want it's
to act like a tough guy on Twitter next. Apparently
he saw me. I didn't see you, so come up now.
Yeah I'm already there. I'm already there, homie.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
But that's the thing is like, come talk to me then,
Like if you got an issue with it, come talk
to me, Like, don't sit on a keyboard, don't sit
by your phone, come talk to me. And then you say, well,
I saw you. If you did see me, why don't
you come and talk to me. Then if you got
a problem, come talk to me. Not hard to find,
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
I mean, it's like you saw me, I didn't see you.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Sorry, dude. But that's the problem with all this is
people people want to take things really super seriously on
Twitter next and make a big deal about it, and
I just I've never viewed it as that. I never
have and for the people.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Outside of like getting like because a lot of guys
gained credibility through catching on with a certain player if
that player is a high profound name, you catch on,
Like he said, you don't know what the f you're
talking about, and you guys like a little chick.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I just does he have.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The credentials to to be able to throw throw his
like throw it around like that?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So who is he? Did he play? Did he get drafted?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
There?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
There's a backstory here, all right.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
And I don't even know if Brady, if you remember this,
but this is how his whole issue with with Brady
and Fox Sports Radio started. So when Deshaun Watson was
demanding to be traded from the Houston Texans, I can
remember because this was before we started to yeah bro
like because we were still doing the Sunday night show.
I was doing it out of my mom's garage. Yeah,
(06:36):
So this is like way back during COVID. So this
is during COVID, and I remember we we were one
of the few people that were actually saying like defending
the Texans and saying, wait a second, he's trying to
make it seem like this is an awful organization. And
he was upset because he traded DeAndre Hopkins. He signed
a contract extension after DeAndre Hopkins was traded and Deshaun
(06:57):
Watson was sitting there crying, banking, the organization and everybody involved,
Bill O'Brien, everybody, the McNair, so on and so forth,
and so we were defending the text and say, wait
a second, this doesn't make sense. Deshaun Watson's trying to
give you a story and people are trying to take
it down a direction that doesn't add up if you
actually know the history of how this deal got done
and his time there in Houston.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So how did he respond?
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Quincy Avery saw that and went after Brady either it
might have been DMS or on social media, and that's
when this whole thing. He's had it out for FSR
ever since then, so much so that Clay Travis commented
on the what Brady's tweet yesterday and was just saying, man,
Brady just eviscerated Quincy Avery. Quincy Avery went at Clay Travis.
(07:40):
They went back and forth. Obviously Clay used to do
this show in this timeslot, so there's been something against
Brady by.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Let me put it this way, I've got a lot
of people who've hit my DMS who are like, good
for you, and like, here's the truth of the matter.
Is and like, again, Quincy's going to have his own
opinions on things, and he's you know, that's what everyone's
allowed to have in this country. That's what makes this
country great. The truth of the matter is, though I
try to be objective about all this, like people will
(08:08):
be like, oh, what do you have something out for?
I have nothing out for Deshaun Watson. Nothing. In fact,
Like when he signed that deal, even though he's questionable
under the circumstances under which he signed it, I was like,
this is great for football, this is great for players.
Deshaun Watson in one contract, has done more for players
as far as trying to push the envelope forward to
(08:28):
guaranteed contracts than anyone in the history of the NFL.
I'll say that again. We'll see if Fox Sports Radio
clips this off. Deshaun Watson has done more for NFL
players than anyone in the history of the NFL with
the guaranteed five year deal that he signed as far
as the business of football, that is more significant than
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ever as far as trying to push the envelope towards that.
Now that being said, how this whole thing's playing out,
it's the first time we've seen something like this. So
we're now getting to a point where you're like, oh,
maybe this isn't gonna work out so well for others
because of how the last year went, how this year
is going so far. And look, and we've said this before,
(09:12):
only they know this truth specifics to the injuries, what
he's dealing with. You know, we touched around the idea like, look,
if it's for him mental health too, Like he needs
to get himself right in the back headspace, you know,
right in the back frame of mind, in headspace he
needs to in order to play and be the player
that they're hoping he'll be. So like we can have
like those conversations about all of this, but the reality
(09:33):
is if people are going to make a big deal
about tweets and all that, like I'm here for fun,
Like I'm not sitting on Twitter or x and trying
to sit there and have some serious conversation about it.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Like, look, what happened in the past, happened.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And if you can't laugh about and make fun of it,
I'm sorry you don't have a sense of humor, Like
you need you need to go find something to laugh
about and enjoy in life. And look, there's some seriousness
to potentially the situation that occurred, but the reality is
like it's out there and it's it's always gonna be
the case. Like I'm sorry, Like I don't know that
many people are gonna be able to get pass some
(10:07):
of the stuff that had transpired and the stories that
came out from all that. But in regards to the
long standing story of quick like that's what a lot
of guys are, Like a lot of guys will send
dms and fire up on Twitter, like that's the reputation,
you know. It's like, no, dude, Like this is just
a social media platform. It's insignificant to real life. It
does not matter in everyone's real life out there.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'm just not real Trying to go back to what
made him feel comfortable enough to say, you don't know
what you're talking about, Like I'm trying to understand his
accolades again to understand.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
But think about any of the top quarterback coaches out there,
now you hear like Tom House was a baseball pitching
coach and then he got into football and coaching. Like now, granted,
Tom is to me the best in the business at
doing it. Him and Adam Data and those guys do
a fantastic job, right, but some of the most reputable people.
I mean, look, I love George Whitfield. George is an
(11:05):
Ohio guy, came from Masslin. But you know, George, I
think I played a little bit of Arena League, played
college ball at Youngstown. It's not like, you know, he's
you know, a former Hall of Fame quarterback. And so
to me, it doesn't necessarily matter what Quincy has done
in his playing career hasn't done, because I'm sure there's
a lot more has not than actual what he's done.
(11:26):
The reality is if a quarterback feels like he can
work with him and get better, that's all that matters.
And it doesn't matter if that's a high school, college
or NFL. And like I said, I don't care if
he wants to take a shot or if he thinks
he's you know, he's got more knowledge on this situation.
That's fine, that's his opinion. He's allowed that. I mean,
we live in a world where like some of the
best teachers I've ever had didn't necessarily have real world
(11:48):
experience in that industry. You'd like them to, but they
don't always have that, But they're able to teach it
in a way that gets you to understand.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, I just I get sticking up for your guys
and your clientele.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
That's all it is is. It's an emotional response. It's
an emotional response.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But I can't say which is more.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
High school gossipy than anything else.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I just can't say.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I took too well too kindly to him threatening you
like that, Just that that kind of rubbed me the
wrong way.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
Thread.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
I showed a response.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
And then when they then they see us face to face,
then you can have your moment, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I mean they would have caught us while we were
in Columbus. I wouldn't have been able to help you
too much. Yeah, yeah, I would might have been on
your Hey, hold it down, buddy, hold it down.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Let me give a I would have been holding Lee's
hair while he was throwing up in a trash.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But then again, when you watch Boys in the Hood,
I mean Chris was in a wheelchair and they're strapped
to do it up on No boy strapped to do
it up on his on the street with Chris came
on down to the got him some, he got him trash.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Can I'll be real, most most of the dudes to
talk like that. Then they see they see me in person,
like Big.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
I didn't realize as that you look like and you
you kind of like look like you really would handle yourself.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Yeah, I don't have the problem.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And then after seeing the meat Wagon and the rest
of the crew.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Yeah you might, they kind of forget.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
They're like, oh they hang around Big. Yeah, everyone's been.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Kind of move You might. You might have more problems
on you. You know what you want.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
You know, it wasn't under the radar funny moment. It's
when the meat Wagon's at the Homage Bar in Columbus
and LeVar just looks at him and goes, you wore
a Neckrol didn't because it looks like he's still wearing it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
He looked like he's still wearing it. He walks like
he's still wearing his shoulder pads with a neck roll.
And by the way, the whole comedic front, how could
you not admire the name.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Massage Watson, I mean Towl Watson. Yeah, Massage Watts.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Dude. I had a couple more in the chamber. I
was like, all right, should I just fire this off
or just let this die? And when my girls were like, Dad, let's.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Go look at some of the Halloween decorations.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Like all right, I can have time for this. So,
I mean, that's the reality of it is. I can't
take x Twitter, whatever you want to call it. I
can't take it seriously, and I can't take people who
take it seriously serious because I'm like, do you know
what I'm I'm literally putting my daughter's shoes on before
we walking out the door, before I fire off a tweet,
and then it never has any impact whatsoever. This one,
(14:23):
like we're we're acting like it's that serious. Like it's
just it's crazy to me how people react to something
like social media.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Like that it's their thing, the.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Bane of our existence as a society.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
It's their thing.
Speaker 6 (14:37):
And Elon paying forty billion dollars to run a professional
wrestling organization basically.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Just table this.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
See you, Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about, Like, yes,
he does, nobody's talking about he actually does. I would
have been off this show of yeah, I know which
I was talking about. I'm going to be messing.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
With my record. What are you all putting me?
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Speaker 2 (15:34):
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A little over twenty from now here from the ti
iraq dot com studios. So on Monday, we were talking
about this controversial play involving Iowa and Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Do you want to go back over the play just
to build it up a little bit, the suspense of
this play.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Under two minutes left to go, Minnesota punted the ball.
It was twelve to ten, I believe was the score
for Minnesota. So twelve ten was the score. Fun fact,
the total in that game, the over under was thirty
and a half, which we haven't seen an over under
that low in like twenty years. And so they were
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sitting at twenty seth.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
True. Yeah, I think the last time Iowa Minnesota playto
was pretty low.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It was thirty one. Okay, so we haven't seen anything
like this.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
They're sitting at twenty two with under two minutes left
to go, and uh, if you'd like to hear how
it sounded, take it away.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
This was the call on Saturday.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
High end over end punt, Degene not gonna touch it
until now.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Little spin down.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
The side line cuts some space here he comes cool?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
What desine cuts a bet?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Twenty five?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
He's gonna checks these goals now there is That was
NBC on the call.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Hey, Paul Burmeister, Man, Paul does a great job.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Yeah, he's awesome. By the by the way, Paul Burmeister sneaky,
big dude too. I've seen it.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
We played quarterback at Iowa. Here was a captain. He
was like the team MVPs final, you're there, he's good.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
So he uh you know.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
There was a correction to this because Iowa was celebrating
and happy about the punt return for the touchdown, and
then the official stepped in and said, nah, not so
fast for.
Speaker 5 (17:52):
Reviewing the play.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
The returner waved his left hand, which is an invalid.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Fair pet said, but for my rule, the ball became
He've done a part of recovery.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
All be placed at the forty six yard line.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Now, Iowa. Sam was very upset with the call and
the decision. There was a little bit of a dust
up on Monday between him and Brady Quinn over the decision.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
PJ.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Fleck, the head coach of Minnesota dust up always.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I just like the term dust up. It's just fun. PJ.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Fleck, the head coach of Minnesota, always honest, always calls
it like it is. He discussed the controversy of this
play at a press converence yesterday.
Speaker 8 (18:35):
There's nothing controversial, diet, nothing controversial.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
All sides is all sides. Fall starts, a fall start,
a hold as a whole.
Speaker 8 (18:43):
Invalid fair catch signals an invalid fair catch signal.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Now, the way the rule states is invalid fair catcher.
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Everybody thinks it's above your shoulder and has to look
like a fair catch.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's not part of the rule.
Speaker 8 (18:53):
The other part of the rule that was implemented years
ago is the poison rule. When you poison her Peter call,
you cannot advance that ball.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
You can point to a ball, that's fine.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
But with one hand, you can't shoe away people at all.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
You can't do that.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
We got called for that weeks ago, if you remember,
we shoot people away from the ball, caught it, wanted
to return it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
And it was blown dead.
Speaker 8 (19:17):
The only thing that should have happened, right, and I'm
not a referee, nor my playing anyone, is.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It should have been just blown dead.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
Right there. Don't even let that play happen because it
doesn't exist. The play doesn't even exist because it's a
poison and a Peter call and it's a dead ball.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
Controversy about it So that was Minnesota head coach PJ.
Fleck on the quote unquote.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
So I'll let you guys like put more color to it,
but I agree with what coach Fleck said. You know
one hundred percent. You know you can't wave guys off.
You can't fake what could be perceived as as a
fair catch, an action of a fair catch. You just
can't do it hands what's hand direction or whatever it
(20:05):
may be. Now, if he had his hands down the
entire time below his waist and he's telling people to
get away from the ball, then that's different. You still
can pick that ball up and advance that ball. But
that just isn't that. I mean, that's not what I saw.
It kind of had the look to it like it
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was a fair catch signal. You can't do that. You
can't be close to having a fair catch signal signal.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
I mean, I just I watched it again because I
was like, maybe I missed something, and I can understand,
you know, maybe it's nitpicking or maybe you know, well
you look at.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
It, but it is.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
It is the rule, like and you may not like it,
but it is the rule as stated in the rule book.
Just like listen, I don't think I should have gotten
a you know, a ticket for blowing past that stop sign.
There shouldn't be a stop sign here, Well there is,
and you blew past it, so that you get a ticket.
Does feel like that's where we're at, and it was.
The play was blown dead and obviously you know Iowa
(21:05):
fans because there was a lot of excitement over which
By the way, those jersey combinations those are sweet, Sam,
those are those are hot.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
They are I do like the yellow, but every time
they wear yellow. Last time they were yellow like that
was against Penn State and they lost. There's something bad
about wearing yellow jerseys.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, real quick, we are defining that as yellow, right,
because there's the person on our Fox Big New kickoff
crew and she was trying to state that it was
gold and.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Me and Eddie have gotten into this discussion. He just
likes to term black and gold and Iowa, I guess
you'd say is their colors are black and gold. I
think it's yellow. I think Purdue wears gold. I think
Notre Dame wears gold on their helmet. Yeah, Minnesota has
golden helmet.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yellow black and gold though, Yeah, argument that wasn't the
song that most recently.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Black and yellow.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, they do say, well that's with Khalifa, but but
in yellow black.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And gold semantics, I call it yellow a gold whatever,
gold yellow, fine, it's not.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Can we get to the point of this conversation though,
because LeVar is in agreement with the way it was officiated.
I said at the time, like, unless you knew the call,
I could see how you could be confused. But it was.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Properly officiated and called.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
And yet I think there's only one person left that
might have a disagreement.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Are you still in agreement or disagreement? I don't. I
think that a couple of things here. I understand what PJ.
Fleck is saying.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
His explanation, Well, that's actually the NCAA or Big Ten
officials were saying that too. That's where this all from.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
The oh I was actually trying to get distract us
as we Yeah, and I saw that the Big Ten
came out like on Monday and explained it. I just
here's the thing. I don't like that it was called
after the fact the play, the Minnesota players, the coverage
team from Minnesota, the Iowa players, everybody was sort of
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interpreting it as a live plays for after the fact
for you to.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Think guys stop what you didn't think players stop?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I think that I didn't. I didn't really see them
pulling up.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I think everybody interpreted some of those guys stopped.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
They did because because he caught it this other thing.
Did we hear him call? Did anybody? Can anybody verify
whether he said it or not? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
But you don't have to say it.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's you yell it out, Isn't that the thing? And
then that that helps the officials know that you're.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
On the football field, Sam, Sometimes you can't hear everything,
Like you know, guys like they say play through the whistle,
sometimes they don't hear the whistle, so like and like
it's a little different. So when he's pointing and kind
of waving telling people to get away and guys get
away and stop, it's kind of evident that clearly he
was yelling or saying something, and.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
That was what they made the point on the broadcast, which,
by the way, in real time I thought everybody involved Burmeister.
I don't know who's doing the color on the call
but him, and then the officials were like got it
right almost immediately. They had the person who was their
replay official working for NBC or working for Peacock, who
did a great job as well too, just saying listen,
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when he points to the ball, that's him telling the
guys on his team to get back the balls right there,
Like that's the getaway signal with his hand.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And that was kind of I thought he was pointing
at a guy to throw a block for.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Him, Right, that's what you do. You'd point out at
the ground, Like, No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
He was pointing at level at guy.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
Coming because that happens all the time, right.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I get the saving off part.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
That's right. Pubrick Turners. They point, they go, hey you
block him, you block him.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
All will sort of like, hey, that's right.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Point usually after they feel the ball, not before it's
even hit the ground.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Okay, well there was guy's closing in on the ball. Okay,
Well you can laugh all you want, but I get
you have to understand that there's ambiguity in fault.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
This is not.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I'm not going to take the Okay, Well, there are
a lot of people that disagreed with it. No, that's
not true. That's not true at all. It was it
was ambiguous and you could have you could have just
let the play stand because it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Is ambiguous also amphibious that it was both. I mean
if that was if that was at a pool, I
would have it would have.
Speaker 6 (25:15):
Been called some would call it sambiguous. There you go
about that.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Listen, I understand the explanations. Now, I get it. Listen,
this all is just distracting from the fact that Iowa
their offense is completely broken, and it's just it's just
something to be angry about and furious about while the
issue boils into the surface that you know, Brian Ferrence
is completely incompetent at his job.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
Can I tell you really what that game was about.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That game was about whoever could win scoring the fewest
amount of points.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Like you could say Iowa's offense is broken.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I actually think both Minnesota and Iowa, given their history
of low scoring games, it's genius. Like each side's like,
all right, we want to score, but not too much.
We want to stay under we want to stayed under
the total. So we would have scored just enough to win,
but not too much to make this thing purely big
ten Iowa Minnesota Historic Robbery Football for the Floyd of Rosetown.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
That's really the last two years though. I mean before that,
Iowa Alisoda engaged in normal battles. I mean of like you.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Know, normal like tass thirty.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Twenty three, seventeen. No, no, I mean you know enough.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
No, but like no, one's trying to get the thirty.
They're like now they've like added up. They're like, alright,
let's try not to get the fifteen. Okay, let's just
keep it right has been.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
I mean, you went from last year thirteen to ten
Iowa to this year twelve to ten Minnesota. Is it
gonna be like.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Way down next year? You're working the way down the
six to three six.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
In five years will be three. It'll be one team
scores three points and the team scores two points.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
And you know, the sports books are going to have
a comedic bone about this because they're gonna go all right,
So in twenty twenty two, the over under was like
thirty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
This past year was thirty and a half.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
I would just make it nine and a half and
see what they got in I'm sure, and they just
run up that, you know as well.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
I think these guys are trying to thread the needle
in this matchup, like like Kirk parents walks out a PJ. Fleck.
He's like, all right, you know the rule. Okay, we're
not gonna get this thing going until the final few minutes.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
First you beat us with four field goals? How about that? Yeah,
I mean, but here's another thing too. Iowa got the ball. Okay,
so it's the touchdowns waved off. Iowa gets the ball
with the minute I think a minute fourteen to go,
and they were at the forty eight yard line, their
own forty eight yard line. They were in. All they
had to do is maybe get twenty to twenty five
thirty yards to get in field goal range. And they
couldn't even do that because I just so putrid.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Well I disagree, how so, because then you don't allow
your number one player to come back out on the
field and punt. Oh I'm just saying, wow, that is
a work of art.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
They were in position to they were in position where
they kind have just had a minimal drive to win
that game, and they couldn't.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Understand the yard. It's a beautiful thing watching Iowa punt.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I mean, Tory Taylor should win the Ray Guy Award.
He is quite good.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
But yeah, I mean, it's it's already in hand. I mean,
I'd put them up there in top ten for Heisman.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
He has been making like a joke Heisman list lately.
But anyway, I just want to say that I understand
the explanations. People can still be a little mad about it,
but they can accept it and move.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Oh that's dude, We're hoping you'd be mad about it.
I mean, that's the thing is we want you to
be I think they mean.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Listen, Jonas brought this up too, like Iowa has dominated
the series. This is how, this is what it took
for PJ. Fleck to get his first win against Dile.
It's okay, Geese and that you know it'll be a
next year, be a grudge match. And there may be
a little asterisk attached to this for Iowa fans. You know,
maybe they'll put a little asterisk on on Floyda Rose Dyland.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I will see.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Tell me if you guys notice a common theme here,
I'm noticing like I'm looking at the lowest scoring teams
in college football and all of college football. I mean,
nobody scores less than Kent State, who scores twelve and
a half points a game, But I'm looking at low
scoring teams and like near the bottom of the list,
I'm seeing Indiana, Nebraska, Michigan State, Iowa, Northwestern Minnesota, Illinois.
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I mean, the big times back. I just want to
point that out in most of those teams are with division.
Where's that the big old fat West, the bad, bad
frontier of the West.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I like it. Man good for that. I mean, so
this is the this is the sad for everybody can eat.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
You get quality football, you go out West, you get
crap a struggle.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Let me just I'll shut up about this. But Iowa
took a back seat for a week to Wisconsin being
in the division lead. Wisconsin hosts Ohio State this weekend.
I think they're gonna get blown out, They're gonna lose,
and Iowa, sadly is gonna be right back in front
in the West ead because it's just setting up a
pantsing in the Big Ten championship game. It's gonna be Michigan,
(29:39):
Ohio State or Penn State. Absolutely sixty two to three something.
We got we got some, we got some work to
It's just setting up Iowa to get embarrassed again like
they got embarrassed two years ago against Michigan.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Gonna be honest, this is very cathartic, Sam, like, I
feel like you're getting it all out.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, it's it's fun. Iowa actually has like the third
or fourth best winning percentage in the last five years
in the Big Ten. But they're doing it with this
offense that's like it's like they're playing with a hand
tied behind their back. It's minimalist offense. It's like a lifestyle.
So I know, people pretty efficient, you know, efficient, and
it's it's tir yeah, but you know what, at least
they gamble on games, so they do have a person
(30:19):
out anymore, a little edge to them. But anyway, I
think people listening have had their Philip Iowa football.
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Brady Quinn on Twitter High Noon with Avery. I mean
I'm just saying quarterbacks, I mean quarterback and quarterback coach.
I mean I wonder who would have the quicker gun
in the Wow West. So I think Quincy got Johnny Ringo.
Just what happened? Yeah, huh that one, whoever is the
(32:27):
huckleberry is going to win clearly obviously.
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Yeah, I thought that was you.
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There was a number of two pros and a cup
of Joe references being made in the NBA comments.
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You know which one was the best? One is some guy?
Some guy tweeted lebar and went, you take tips, don't you?
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Well?
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Yes, today it is you know, two pros and a
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Of course, there.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
All right, lead the lap, who's got what?
Speaker 10 (33:53):
As we do each and every Wednesday, we start with
the good, and this week Jonas gives us the good.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Well, this is easy for me.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
At the Graduate in Columbus, Ohio at Homage Bar, that
was awesome. It was fun to get to see everybody
you know, listeners showed up, It was fun to get
to meet the staff there.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Obviously.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Christine with Graduate Hotels was phenomenal to work with. She
helped put the whole thing together and to be able
to get to do a show a remote like that
in kind of an intimate setting like that, just hanging out,
sitting at a bar doing radio, having a good time,
seeing the meat wagon, seeing Pat walk in. For those
of you longtime listeners of Brady Quinn on the show,
(34:34):
those are two regulars. And getting to see everybody and
just to see the whole scene. The design to be
at another hotel by Graduate, which has done so well,
was awesome to be a part of.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So that's my good for the week. An awesome time
to be ad.
Speaker 10 (34:49):
That was good, But you can't have good without the bad. LeVar,
what was bad this week? My health, my hackle, my gieutis?
It was bad? It was really good.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
What it is?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I confirmed it when I went in It is indeed gout? Yeah,
and I got an injection. I am now feeling much
much much more relief and feeling better.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
So I'm on the men's We we.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Put together a plan as to how to approach, you know,
the prevention of of having this got Sam, you got
a quick questions.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I just have a question about gout. Got Is it
cost by too much salt? Or is that something else?
It's all kinds of right, isn't it like acid builds up? Yes?
I thought it was okay, Yeah, but it's triggered from
are you ingesting too much salt? Is my question as possible.
I don't hear you get enough so much people don't
get enough salts. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
I could not be ingesting enough. So I tend to
think it's when I eat red meat or when I'm
drinking alcohol that that's when this happens. You know, could
be good, be I mean, I'm not a lush or
anything like that. It's not like I have like this.
You know, I have one, maybe two drinks? What now
that makes me an alcoholic? Like that's not like anything
(36:08):
like that. But I'm just saying to keep a story short.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah, I'm you.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Know, I'm feeling better now, but it was bad for
like two and a half weeks.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
It's uric acid, right, That's what the build up is.
It's uric acid.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I didn't ask for it.
Speaker 6 (36:22):
I didn't know anything about gout until a few years ago.
And I think when I saw you the first time,
when you were describing it to me, I was like, man,
it kind of sounds like what my buddy had but
he told me it's awful and that he missed a
couple of days of work, and he told me about gout.
I had no idea, and he just said, like red
meat for him was what did it like? You could
(36:43):
no longer have steak? And he loves steak, but he
just couldn't do it because it would flare up and
it would shut him down.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
So Ruffalomar, But you're back. I am back.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Are you feeling that much better?
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:55):
The treatment, yes, like that's.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
A trillion time, like almost back to normal. Oh yeah,
I mean I feel the obviously, the the residual results.
Speaker 6 (37:06):
This calls for a lebar island into it.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
I was drinking the while I was in pain. I'm
not going to stop now that I'm not in pain.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Damn, I'm back. Maybe yeah, glad The bad is getting better,
but from bad two worse. What was ugly this week, Brady.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Well, probably what concluded last night.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
The Diamondbacks are headed to the World Series winning the NLCS.
And what was ugly is probably the manner in which
I guess the Phillies lost. They blew what was a
two o lead. They were up three to two obviously
as well and ended up losing the series, and I
believe their payroll, if I'm not mistaken, is about ninety
(37:49):
million dollars more than that of the youthful Diamondbacks, who
quite frankly just played better. You know, the Bats kind
of showed up when they needed him to. There was
some time where there are some pitching issues I think
for the Phillies, and look, the Phillies just stop hitting,
you know, it's just some of the homers and some
(38:09):
of the different shots that we saw early in the
series ended up not being the case in the end.
So it got kind of ugly in that series towards
the end for the Phillies, which I thought basically once
they started off to and I thought for sure they're
gonna be in the World series, was kind of looking
forward to it, and honestly, they're just a fun team
to watch. Love Bryce Harper and came to a disappointing end,
(38:32):
unfortunately for Philly fans out there.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Kind of disappointing for Fox as well too. I feel
like Phillies.
Speaker 6 (38:39):
Are a fun watch and so you mean for ratings, Yeah,
it was like it, you know, a little bit disappointing,
but you know, you know, it's not disappointing the Breeders Cup,
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