October 31, 2023 • 36 mins
The Sixers trade James Harden to the Clippers but do these big time trades intrigue fans anymore? Iowa Sam gets Brian Ferentz fired. Plus, a Halloween edition of “You In or Out?”
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Let me ask you another question. You didn't ask the
first one. Yeah, no, so you get question. It's going
to follow up on my initial question. When you see
that James Harden is traded and it's another you know,
guy's going to be a Hall of Famer former MVP
won the scoring title three years, I mean legitimate, like
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all star level player, And when you see he gets
traded in the NBA, do you even like care? Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like the end, the NBA
just feels like these deals are happened so often where
they just a disgruntled superstar wants to be traded again.
It just feels like it's it happens so much that
it's no longer got the gravitas that it once did before.
(01:57):
I don't know, I just like look at it and
they go, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Once too many times that it's happened, it kind of
loses its its kind of appeal. Like I think the
James Harden being traded thing has lost its appeal. I mean,
it was interesting when he went to Houston. It was
interesting when he went to Brooklyn, it was somewhat like
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it was like, oh, it's intriguing. It went from interesting
to intriguing when he went with Philly because of what
could have been. And now he goes to a team
where they load up on superstars all the time and
always come up short. I think we know what the
outcome will be, just based upon what it's always been
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for the Clippers. But I don't find myself as interested
in where James Harten will go because at this point,
I'm even wondering what his worth is and his value
is as a player at this point, Like if he
was still at the top of his game, and this
is like James Harden, as you mentioned the scoring titles
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James Harten, James Harden, then that's a little different. But
this is kind of he's getting older. He's not going
to be your first option or even your second option
on on a team at this point. I don't I
just I don't find it to be very interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of doesn't move the needle.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
The NBA is like so transient. I think that has
as much to do with it as anything else.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know, Lillard was really the last guy where he thought, man,
that's a.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Black I thought he was going to retire. Now I
really did.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Now he's with the Bucks and he's bawling, so you know,
they're obviously going to be in the East. But I
think I just think that's part of it. It's not
that I don't think it's a big deal. It's just
that it happens kind of so often that you become
a little more callous to it. Like I almost think
as a fan too, when you see a movement, like,
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for example, always been a big cast fan, Right, Donovan
Mitchell gets there, I'm like, dude, awesome, Like we're gonna
have a shot to win these right just because he's there,
because just because of his ability and presence. But there's
also someone in the back of my mind, I'm like,
but this is probably for a window of time, because eventually,
like he might want to move on, you know, like
like Lebron moved on twice. Technically, it's just you kind
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of conditioned to, I don't know, maybe live in the
moment or enjoy it for what it is, but not
get too excited because you know, as good as it
feels to get a star player or a future Hall
of Famer. There's also eventually going to come the day
when he leaves. It's just it's odd man, that that's like,
that's how the NBA is now, maybe professional sports in general.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
My buddy is a diehard Pittsburgh Pirate fan, and I
remember being outside the stadium one time and he wanted
me to get him a jersey, and so I'm looking
through the shelve and he's like, god, yeah, but you know,
they trade some people so often, I don't know what
to I was like, Okay, what about this Zach Duke jersey.
He goes, oh, yeah, he's gonna be there a while,
maybe a year, like Eddie was e there like a year,
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year and a half. Maybe it just yeah, two years
if that. It just like there's just certain organizations and
in the NBA, it feels like every team in the
NBA where you're just kind of like, all right, I
guess for the next two years were cool, and then
next thing you know, you're wearing an outdated jersey because
the guy gets unhappy or disgruddled and wants to be
delt elsewhere. It just and when you listen, like James
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Harden is legitimate. He did something that two guys in
the history of the NBA have ever done. And it
was like he scored like thirty something points a game
a couple of years ago, and it was Will Chamberlain
and Michael Jordan. Are there two guys in history of
the league that have ever scored at that clip in
the NBA? And LaVar you just rattled off like five
teams that he's been on. The hell is that if
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you have somebody who's who's putting up numbers like that
in the NFL, maybe they go somewhere else once. Like
the trade deadlines today, Man, they're not trading away quality
players who are putting up numbers like that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, I even feel that way, but I think
you was right. I mean, it's just that's just the
world we live and that's the way the NBA is
at this point. But I mean, I even look at
like some of the moves that took place with Chris
Paul not interested doesn't interest me. Even with with KD
going to to the Phoenix Suns. It's just he's kind
of on teetering on that same line as as James Harden.
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I'm just not I've lost interest in thinking that they're
the difference when they go to another team at this point,
that's now going to transition into a new group, a
new crop of young NBA stars that will start to
emerge and establish their names. Like we're going to start
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to learn new names. But the old guard of names
like a James Harden, I mean, it's just not that
doesn't have the same pizazz. He's going to LA. If
you would have said that two years, three years ago,
you'd have been like, like, they got Paul George, they
got Kawhi Washbrook, take well two three years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're doing that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
But but I just I just think that you would
have been more excited about a move like this. But
I just don't see the excitement.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I don't see why you would be, oh, yeah, this
is great, Like do you do you give the Clippers
the opportunity? Do you look at them as being a
real contender now anymore than what you did before? I
don't like, if they were a contender before they got
James Harden, they're still they were still a contender, or
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they would be a contender when they get James Harden.
But I don't think that that's like that puts it
over the top, Like Dame Lillard going to the Milwaukee Bucks.
What's the first thing everybody said, they gotta be the
favorite immediately? Like you think the addition of of of
Lillard is there's that much significance to it, Like I
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don't feel that when you say that about James Harden.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, and that'll wrap up our coverage of the NBA. Well,
there you got twenty three. There is two pros and
a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Here on that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, it's honest. I mean, you know, like you
know it's yeah whatever.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I mean, I don't feel like I'm now if you
want to be here, if you want to really if
you want to really hate you like if.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You if you want to really hate show whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Let's talk about that Raiders offense.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Josh McDaniels, the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders
offensive mind somebody that Brady Quinn played for. Josh McDaniels
spoke following their loss last night to the Detroit Lions,
where the offense was subpar yet again like they've been
all season long. And here was the Raiders head coach.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
I know you're only eight games and you still got
nine left, but at this point in the season when
the offense hasn't taken on.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Do you have to look at everything? Do you stay
the course?
Speaker 7 (09:01):
We should, Hondo, honestly, we should. I mean, it's not
productive enough, you know, whether it doesn't matter a pick
a winner, you know what I mean. Honestly, we have
to be able to produce more points in order to
win games in this league, and right now we're not
doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And so that's obviously my responsibility.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
And we'll take a look at everything we're doing, everybody
that's doing it, you know, and try to figure out
if there's a better way that's what we can do.
There's still nine games to go, you know, so we
have a lot of football left. We have played stretches
of good football, but you know, certainly.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Not consistently enough. Maybe change that quarter I'm not going
to talk about that right now.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
So the potential of making a move at quarterback could
be there as well too. Now, whether I mean Brian
Hoyer was an active last night, so it was Aidan
O'Connell who was the backup. But Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know.
I mean, when you watch the Raiders, I don't know
that it's a Garoppolo problem. It just feels like the
offense as a whole and nobody's in sync.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It just it's it's funny too. It's not like they
don't have studs, right, Like you've got Devoncea. Adams are
really one of the best receivers in the league. Jacobe
Myers has been a good pickup for them, are a
nice compliment. Renfro is the one that I'm probably most
shocked has not worked out in the system. I mean,
you're talking Josh McDaniels, like New England Patriots play caller
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who have made so many slot receivers famous, right Wels Welker,
Julian Edelman, like that position, like you go back through
the years, the way they use Troy Brown, like that
position has been so important in that system. And Hunter
Renfro was has been awesome up until Josh mchatal's arrived.
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I don't get it, like that's that was the one
guy who's like, oh, perfect fit, like they're gonna thrive
together and has not worked out.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now, Look, Jimmy g hasn't been healthy. That's been a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But like Josh Jacobs at running back too, very capable
of you know, doing a lot in the game. They
draft Michael Meyer to go with Austin Hooper, they have
two tight end Like I just I don't get it.
It's it literally is probably one of the most baffling things.
And I guess you could just sit there and point
at the quarterback. But like I said, Garoppolo hasn't even
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healthy the whole time, so it's really hard to put
your finger on what it is. You know, maybe it's
just the fact that you do have a lot of
kind of newness with a new quarterback in Garoppol, even
though it's a system that he's familiar with, and try
to get on the same page with Devance Adams. Like,
I don't know, it's really hard to put your finger
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on how this offense can't do more given the personnel,
given what should be great scheme fit.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But remember it was Derek Carr's fault. Got to get
rid of him. Couldn't get rid of Derek Carr fast enough,
even after he signed a deal. And here we are.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And and Mike Shanahan, excuse me, Kyle Shanahan did all
his winning with Jimmy Garoppolo, you know exactly, Jimmy Garoppolo
is not in Vegas. I just when I look at
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the Raiders situation, it's just, I mean, whatever the details
of it that go into why they're struggling and why
they're not doing good. I'll first say I agree with
Josh McDaniels when he says there's a lot of football
left to be played, and so there's still the story
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that can be written and the outcome have a different
ending than what it seems like it's going to be
currently right now. Not With that being said, if the
ending ends up being what people are anticipating it to be,
which is based off of what the sample size that
they receive watching this team thus far, then you have
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to say that the blame is going to fall solely
on the head coach, regardless of the why and the
how of it all, that is still all going to
be laid at the foot the feet of this head coach,
and he's going to have to be able to answer
in much more detail than what he has if if
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that's how it plays out, If you find success, you
preach and you sell hope.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
If you lose, you have to do the.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Same exact thing, but it has to be done differently,
because obviously that's a harder proposition to sell people on
how do I have hope and how do I buy
into you specifically, and how do I continue to buy
into my team knowing that we're not winning. So to me,
I think that there's you know, there's a lot that's
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at stake for for Josh McDaniels, for his reputation because
regardless of the what, the why or the how why
the Raiders are struggling, he's he is going to be
the one that's held accountable for ultimately what their expectations
and accomplishments are.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And it's probably his last shot.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You got to assume, Yeah, like you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Only get two shots at this usually to be a
head coach in the NFL. Now, granted he's young enough
where maybe that's not the case if he goes somewhere
else continues to have a lot of success. And also,
I mean these things take time that there should be
patients with all of this. I mean, there was a
pretty dramatic roster turnover for the most part when they
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got there from what John Gruden had done previously, and
that's going to take some time. And I also wonder
like if you look at them within the AFC West,
I mean, you always have to contending with the Chiefs,
which is like, I don't know, probably playing the AFC
East back when Brady and Belichick were in there, you know,
like it feels like you're at best going to play
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second fiddle because you're just you're not going to find
another Patrick Mahomes. Regardless of how good an offensive mine
you are, you're not going to find another Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So if that's the.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Case, like you're always kind of playing from behind or
playing for second, and Raiders fans probably don't want to
hear that, but it's kind of the truth, right, I mean,
if you were the Dolphins, Bills or Jets during the
Brady Bill Belichick era, with the exception of a few
a few years, you probably felt like, yeah, we're probably
(15:26):
playing for second this year.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You might have hoped different, but the reality was how
many how many times do.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
They win the AFC East? Was it like nineteen, like
sixteen or nineteen times something like that?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, that was a lot, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It was a ridiculous amount, like passed a lot, it was.
It was a ridiculous amount. And it feels like, obviously
if you look at the AFC West, like that's the
scenario that those three other teams, the Chargers, Broncos and Raiders.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Are in now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But for McDaniels, no, I think it's it's tough because,
you know, I think because of how things went down Indianapolis,
there's there's you know, maybe some I don't know if
there's hesitation about how people have viewed that scenario. But
this is a second shot, and it may be his
last shot as a head coach in the NFL just
because of how that typically works. You could be a
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great coach, but if things don't work out for you,
like teams, just don't have a hard time selling you
if it doesn't work out.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Twice before, let me propose something to you guys before
we get to break. The Raiders are playing the Giants
this weekend. First to ten wins, e. I mean, let's
not even let's not even wait around for the four quarters.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
If somebody I'm just say first to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Okay, LeVar, what do you want ten or fourteen? What
you're going with? You can also split the difference here.
You want to go twelve and a half, You do
what you want.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, I'm a they had negative nine yards passing, then
I'm gonna go twelve.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I would go to it. And by the way,
not the lowest point total of the weekend in the
NFL either. It is not until first twelve, which is
kind of a kind of not a great look for
teams like the Titans and the Steelers on Thursday night
who have a lower point total in that one. So
I've got some quarterback questions there. But hey, have we.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Still not talked about the Iowa situation?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Are they still playing football in Iowa?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I just I mean, I'm looking through the rundown.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
We have Iowa Sam who should be full vindicated based
on what's happening there.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You know, we've Brian Farns. Brian Farren's not returning next
season as announced by the school.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is all we're going to give it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
At the end of Okay, I'm just well, okay, I'll
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Speaker 8 (17:42):
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take it over? Even though Joel Klatt tried to steal it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Jonas, why did he steal your name? I think he
did steal it?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Didn't he tried to? Why? Oh he tried to. Like
anybody that's been listening to Fox programming long enough knows
what programming? Fox, You didn't say it the right way? Yeah?
Can you try it again? Fox? No, how do you
want me to say it? You give zero? What? Stop?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Ah?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, come on, don't piss Sam. I know, I know, Sam.
We do have a special Halloween.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Is our dumb button so far away by the way, Yeah,
I know it's not as much fun as the other one.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's so far away. Yeah, and then it doesn't light up,
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dot com. So it was announced yesterday that Iowa's offensive coordinator,
Brian Farrence if that last name sounds familiar, he is
the son of head coach Kirk Farence, that he will
not be returning next year as Iowa's offensive horns. No
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believe it or not, this was after there was a
there was a little something added to his contract where
he had to average twenty five points per in order
to get some accelerators in his deal and get paid
a little bit more. And even though that he's the
son of the head coach no longer going to be
the offensive coordinator moving forward. So congratulations to Iowa, Sam
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and the hooligans who make up crop circles and destroy
families in Iowa because you have now cost this man
a job with his father, because all you guys wanted
to do is complain about how the offense looked. Congratulations Sam, Where.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Do you go?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I mean, I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
It'd be nice to average more than like thirteen points
a game, you know, Now, do you.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Have reservations or concerns about Kirk Farns potentially hanging around
to make the next hire?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Like?
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Yes, yeah, I think that a lot of people float
to the idea out there that he might just go
ahead and retire after this season just to sort of
save face with everybody. And he's been there now, this
is his twenty fifth season, twenty fourth and so he's
been there to ninety nine. That very well could be,
But I mean, I don't know. They could just do
so much better with a capable offense. Even if they
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just scored another five six points a game, they'd probably
be you know, they'd be seven to one.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
If they learned the rules. They could probably feel a
punt too. Oh wow, Wow, you feel punts, don't you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (21:20):
Listen, this was a long time coming. If Kirk Ferris
was going to be the decider whether his son had
a job or not, we would never get past this.
So someone, Beth gets the interim AD had to step
in and she made an executive decision, and people, I
think we just took a big sigh of relief.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I mean, is this maybe a scenario Be careful what
you wish for though, Yes, listen, I mean yeah, because let.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Me let me play this out for you.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Say sure.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think I was one of the third most games
of the span of the last like five or six
or something like that.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
Right behind they are slightly above Penn State, but they're
at behind the state Michigan. That's correct.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yes, I understand they play in the Big ten West.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, so that is a leasier But like, they play
a style in which I think it allows them to
play in some of these tight games. It doesn't stress
their defense. They play field position battles.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And they win a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I just I feel like if you go to a
dramatically different direction, you're gonna be begging for the days
where you were an eight to nine win team, that
could be a ten win team, and you could be
hovering around a.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Six win t that's what fans do. It's Bo Polaini Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean, like I could see this setting up
where Iowa has a hard time being able to replicate
the consistency of what Kirk Ferrence has been able to do.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Okay, let's say Kirk. Let's say Kirk Farren sticks around.
If your if your offense is even slightly better, it's
gonna it's gonna piece fans enough.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And that's fine. But here's the problem with like winning
your offense to be better. There is a formula for
like your offensive production, but also not stressing your defense.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, they've been doing, I understand.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Because they've they've had such a lack of offense for
the past couple of years in particular, right, but there's
also been those moments and times when like they've had
to turn it on and they've turned it on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, Like, man.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm just saying I try. I try to look at
the body of work more so than just this year.
Like I'll be real.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
With last you guys three seasons, right, but you guys
went to the transfer portal and acted like that was
going to solve all your issues this year.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
I get it, they're starting over within basically new quarterback
they've got. They lost all their top tight ends, and
the tight end is a central part of what Brian
Farrence does. It's probably been the only position that's been
like even last.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Year, like the last times we've gone there.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Like their offensive line that I think they thought it
was gonna be better than it was early on, and
it took a while for them to jail. Once to
jail the second half of the season, they were much better.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Their offensive line hasn't been good since the pandemic season.
Some of that might do with the offensive line coach too,
who's hired in twenty foot one.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Sure that could play might.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Be a leak in the roof, but you know, listen, overall,
an offensive coordinator in his first year implementing some newish
schemes would still probably be better than Brian Farrens's product.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Careful what you wish for, because we will for sure
save this for next year.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
Well, I can't control what Kirk ference does. If he
wants to retire because of this decision that's been made,
then he's welcome to. But he could look at it
as it just like, how about the last his contract
goes till twenty twenty nine. How about he looked at
it as the next five to six years. He turns
a page and does the old new Kirk.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I understand that point. Go bring in, go bring in
an air raid guy, all right, Phil Longer.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Oh, they're never gonna, They're never gonna. They don't want
a guy. But hear me out fundamentally change anything. Yeah,
hear me out.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Less you want to talk about Phil Longo if you
know a lot about his scheme, He's an air raid
guy who came in and they tried that right, brought
in a transfer quarterback who's supposed to be Taylor fit
for it. What happened, Morcai got benched. They tried to
slung it around a little bit, didn't work, and they've
turned exactly into a version of what they were. And
they're running the football again with Brayleen Allen trying to
control the line of scrimmage, and now.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I have a freshman QB in there.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So I'm just saying, like, you got to be careful
of what you wish for, because there is a formula
and a thought process to a guy who's done it
more successfully than arguably anyone in the history of Iowa
outside Hayden Fry.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
They say, you're absolutely rights right.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Yeah, no, listen again, just this comes down to the
fact that, yes, that they've squeaked out a lot of wins,
but they're always I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wait till can't wait till you guys are scoring twenty
five plus points a game.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Then we'll see what okay.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
Then then the defense can play a little worse. If
the offense plays a little better, they're still going to
have the same. I think they're gonna it's gonna shake
out the same.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's what you're hoping for.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
By the way, By the way, Sam's reaction is similar
to when you're talking to a buddy about why he
should break up with his check. It's like, listen, man,
she's just not the one. Yeah, I know, but you
just don't yet you did, Sam.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
I'm the one who's been watched delusional. But it's not
to move on.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He's so, he's so so it just frustrated and flustered
with the whole thing with Iowa.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
It's been very frustrating because they do everything they do
two thirds of the game well and one third is
an absolute joke.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
By the way, what do you want for your final?
Like kind of this is a successful year for Iowa.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, ten wins season ten, ten to three, you know,
eleven and two. You see the point total for Iowa.
Northwestern opened up at twenty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Twenty nine and listen, I didn't think it was gonna
win a team.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
They're four and four, yeah, and I didn't think they
just like North Maryland, they did, and they've been playing tough.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And what did they were? They were down thirty one
to ten I think to Minnesota and came back and
won that game.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But they don't have much of an offense though, So I'm.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Just surprised by Northwestern being, uh, you know, actually.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Being four and four.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
So yeah, all right, that'll conclude Northwestern Iowa talk.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Thank you? What he died and a half?
Speaker 9 (26:51):
They point And oh I heard a crazy stat. Seventy
five percent of teams. I don't know how far this
back this goes seventy five percent of teams coming off
a bye week? Oos is that is that? How is
that possible? I don't know how far back that goes go.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Back and fact checked that this isn't college football.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yes, in college football. By the way, Uh, I did
get a text message that's this year. I don't know.
I did get a text message from a certain somebody
who's worked here at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
For a long time. He's now a member of the
put some personal information out that you could use against somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, no, he's now. He's now he works on the
Herd with Colin Cowherd. And he wrote in he said,
Sam's going to need new boxers after all this Iowa talk.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I think, okay, but but the last thing to your
ten win season, they go to Northwestern versus Wreckers versus
Illinois at Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh, I think, do they get the ten wins with
the bowl game?
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Maybe, but they're there, they could be tripped up a
couple times along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So yeah, I mean every one of those games.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You get every one of those games, and you would say,
if you had a better.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
That's what I love about the Big Ten West, Like, that's.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
What I love that Minnesota at the top right now,
Sure they're leading. Yeah, so you said Minnesota have rose
buwls since like nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So but That's what's fun, is Yeah. You every week
you're like, all right, who's gonna get to twelve?
Speaker 9 (28:08):
For you as an outsider or watching well not outside,
but you know you're you watching the Big ten West
as a Notre Dame guy. But for me, when I
watch Iowa, whether they win or lose, it's a traumatizing experience.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
By the way, the twenty traumatizing. See twenty nine and
a half total between Iowa and Northwestern and college football
alone by themselves, there are fifty eight teams that average
more than twenty nine and a half points a game
alone by themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Is it the lowest since the start of the millennium?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I think so, it's a lot. I mean it's bumped
up in certain places, like thirty and a half now,
But I.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Might throw in some bets just to bet it back down,
I know, just see what we can get in, Just
see how low.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
We can get this thing. Can we get to twenty
eight and a half?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
My buddy and I used to do that. We would
call QBC and put in fake bids to try and
get the numbers to jump up on the screen. Back
in the day. That's what we got to do. We'll
start putting in bets and just see we can get
this thing back down to like twenty five. Come on, Sam,
chip in a little bit here, who needs mega millions
and chip?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Hey, Sam, do this. We'll get a round of applause
though for Sam.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Round.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean you did it, Sam, you did endure.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yep, you did it. Come on, give me any to
do with it?
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Yeah more, come on one more times, come on to
come on here.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, all right, all right, Top got me, top, gut me.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Oh man, so good, top gunning me. Sam got him fired.
Nice work, Sam. It is Two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 3 (32:21):
All right? Lead to lat we got a Halloween special.
Let's hear it?
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Yes, that is right, Jonas, we do have a Halloween special.
And I got to start with costume parties? Are you
guys costume parties?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
People? Do you do couples costumes?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
We used to do a big ass costume party when
we lived in our house in Annapolis, Maryland. We haven't
done it since then. But if I were in a
place where I had a whole bunch of friends and
our community was pretty big, I'd say, I'm in.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
They're fun, Yeah, they're fun. I'm in.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Do you guys make your own costumes? Or your more
store bought.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
We custom Our store bought.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Time for that crap.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I was I was the black conan a few years back.
I was was going to be black because I'm black.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Ya, I was.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Racist?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Man?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You racist? I didn't know that was racist.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I mean, I am apparently a lot of things these days.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I mean apparently apparently, Okay, apparently.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I assume Lee, I assume you make your outfits.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I'm just very cheap. So I just put on a
Ghostbusters shirt, which I have and uh, I wanted to
shirt you where every day?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah exactly. And a Safari hat.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah like a Ghostbusters a fifth helmet and uh, and
a Hunter's best like I'm a ghost Hunter.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Okay, I might as well be the guy from Jumanji.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Every single year.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What I've done it a few Jumanji all right? That. Yeah,
whenever you found When I was a kid, I went
all out.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I do like zombie makeup stuff and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I went to Frankenstein like seven years in a row.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
I was big Star Wars growing up, and it was
like the plastic plastic costume that you put in the
box after you were done wearing it, then you wear
it again next year.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So, since I had two brothers and we were kind
of close in age, he'd be Yoda one year.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
Care of those, yeah right, we had one of those.
I'd be you don't wear Dark Invader. Then there was
Luke Skywalker, so we rotated. I used to do Zombie
Farve a lot, zombie bread far Oh.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
My god, it was just that kid, Lee. You were
that kid and and you had candy in your mouth
while you was asking for more candas and trick or Cheat.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I went as uh, the Ultimate Warrior one year, and
because I didn't have long hair, my mom thought, well,
we'll just go to a thrift store and buy you
a wig. So she went to the thrift score a
thrift store and bought the wig, but she cut it
too short that I walked up to some guy's door
and he's like, what are you supposed to be a
little girl? I had all the makeup on. Oh wow,
(35:15):
And I'm like, oh my god. My Mom's like, yeah,
I probably cut that wig a little short. But yeah,
the makeup probably didn't help either.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Mom.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Never, I mean, if you were an Ultimate Warrior, did
you have a shirt on?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I wasn't jacked like him. I'm on the gas. You
know it's warm out here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
You might have not, Sam, What are you gonna go on?
Is this year a tombstone with Brian fan walk around?
Speaker 9 (35:42):
That's a good that's a good one. But I am
already dressed up as like a I don't know, some
character from Breaking Bad. I have a pios armanos apron
on so you'll see a picture of it later.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So I've seen it, but I wasn't sure if that
was gonna.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Be your thought. I thought that was, well, that's a
good idea, it's good to do. I thought it was
well played. Oh what I'll do? Got you guys in
er out on candy corn out.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I used to be in, but I'm out now, disgusting.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You guys enter out on dressing your dogs hours.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I think the joints that they be putting them on
now is is pretty funny, Like you look like they're
running with a gift and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm in. I'm in. You got legs in or out?
On caramel apples? Do you say can and can't? I
have then ears camel and the camell especially they have
nuts on them.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
And and a happy birthday to Nick Dame John Candy
Speaker 2 (36:40):
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(01:12):
Let me ask you another question. You didn't ask the
first one. Yeah, no, so you get question. It's going
to follow up on my initial question. When you see
that James Harden is traded and it's another you know,
guy's going to be a Hall of Famer former MVP
won the scoring title three years, I mean legitimate, like
(01:32):
all star level player, And when you see he gets
traded in the NBA, do you even like care? Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like the end, the NBA
just feels like these deals are happened so often where
they just a disgruntled superstar wants to be traded again.
It just feels like it's it happens so much that
it's no longer got the gravitas that it once did before.
(01:57):
I don't know, I just like look at it and
they go, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Once too many times that it's happened, it kind of
loses its its kind of appeal. Like I think the
James Harden being traded thing has lost its appeal. I mean,
it was interesting when he went to Houston. It was
interesting when he went to Brooklyn, it was somewhat like
(02:22):
it was like, oh, it's intriguing. It went from interesting
to intriguing when he went with Philly because of what
could have been. And now he goes to a team
where they load up on superstars all the time and
always come up short. I think we know what the
outcome will be, just based upon what it's always been
(02:46):
for the Clippers. But I don't find myself as interested
in where James Harten will go because at this point,
I'm even wondering what his worth is and his value
is as a player at this point, Like if he
was still at the top of his game, and this
is like James Harden, as you mentioned the scoring titles
(03:07):
James Harten, James Harden, then that's a little different. But
this is kind of he's getting older. He's not going
to be your first option or even your second option
on on a team at this point. I don't I
just I don't find it to be very interesting.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I don't know. It's kind of doesn't move the needle.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
The NBA is like so transient. I think that has
as much to do with it as anything else.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
You know, Lillard was really the last guy where he thought, man,
that's a.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Black I thought he was going to retire. Now I
really did.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Now he's with the Bucks and he's bawling, so you know,
they're obviously going to be in the East. But I
think I just think that's part of it. It's not
that I don't think it's a big deal. It's just
that it happens kind of so often that you become
a little more callous to it. Like I almost think
as a fan too, when you see a movement, like,
(03:58):
for example, always been a big cast fan, Right, Donovan
Mitchell gets there, I'm like, dude, awesome, Like we're gonna
have a shot to win these right just because he's there,
because just because of his ability and presence. But there's
also someone in the back of my mind, I'm like,
but this is probably for a window of time, because eventually,
like he might want to move on, you know, like
like Lebron moved on twice. Technically, it's just you kind
(04:21):
of conditioned to, I don't know, maybe live in the
moment or enjoy it for what it is, but not
get too excited because you know, as good as it
feels to get a star player or a future Hall
of Famer. There's also eventually going to come the day
when he leaves. It's just it's odd man, that that's like,
that's how the NBA is now, maybe professional sports in general.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
My buddy is a diehard Pittsburgh Pirate fan, and I
remember being outside the stadium one time and he wanted
me to get him a jersey, and so I'm looking
through the shelve and he's like, god, yeah, but you know,
they trade some people so often, I don't know what
to I was like, Okay, what about this Zach Duke jersey.
He goes, oh, yeah, he's gonna be there a while,
maybe a year, like Eddie was e there like a year,
(05:05):
year and a half. Maybe it just yeah, two years
if that. It just like there's just certain organizations and
in the NBA, it feels like every team in the
NBA where you're just kind of like, all right, I
guess for the next two years were cool, and then
next thing you know, you're wearing an outdated jersey because
the guy gets unhappy or disgruddled and wants to be
delt elsewhere. It just and when you listen, like James
(05:27):
Harden is legitimate. He did something that two guys in
the history of the NBA have ever done. And it
was like he scored like thirty something points a game
a couple of years ago, and it was Will Chamberlain
and Michael Jordan. Are there two guys in history of
the league that have ever scored at that clip in
the NBA? And LaVar you just rattled off like five
teams that he's been on. The hell is that if
(05:49):
you have somebody who's who's putting up numbers like that
in the NFL, maybe they go somewhere else once. Like
the trade deadlines today, Man, they're not trading away quality
players who are putting up numbers like that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I mean, I even feel that way, but I think
you was right. I mean, it's just that's just the
world we live and that's the way the NBA is
at this point. But I mean, I even look at
like some of the moves that took place with Chris
Paul not interested doesn't interest me. Even with with KD
going to to the Phoenix Suns. It's just he's kind
of on teetering on that same line as as James Harden.
(06:23):
I'm just not I've lost interest in thinking that they're
the difference when they go to another team at this point,
that's now going to transition into a new group, a
new crop of young NBA stars that will start to
emerge and establish their names. Like we're going to start
(06:44):
to learn new names. But the old guard of names
like a James Harden, I mean, it's just not that
doesn't have the same pizazz. He's going to LA. If
you would have said that two years, three years ago,
you'd have been like, like, they got Paul George, they
got Kawhi Washbrook, take well two three years ago.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
They're doing that.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
But but I just I just think that you would
have been more excited about a move like this. But
I just don't see the excitement.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I don't see why you would be, oh, yeah, this
is great, Like do you do you give the Clippers
the opportunity? Do you look at them as being a
real contender now anymore than what you did before? I
don't like, if they were a contender before they got
James Harden, they're still they were still a contender, or
(07:39):
they would be a contender when they get James Harden.
But I don't think that that's like that puts it
over the top, Like Dame Lillard going to the Milwaukee Bucks.
What's the first thing everybody said, they gotta be the
favorite immediately? Like you think the addition of of of
Lillard is there's that much significance to it, Like I
(07:59):
don't feel that when you say that about James Harden.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, and that'll wrap up our coverage of the NBA. Well,
there you got twenty three. There is two pros and
a cup of Joe.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Here on that.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, it's honest. I mean, you know, like you
know it's yeah whatever.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
I mean, I don't feel like I'm now if you
want to be here, if you want to really if
you want to really hate you like if.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
You if you want to really hate show whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Let's talk about that Raiders offense.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Josh McDaniels, the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders
offensive mind somebody that Brady Quinn played for. Josh McDaniels
spoke following their loss last night to the Detroit Lions,
where the offense was subpar yet again like they've been
all season long. And here was the Raiders head coach.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
I know you're only eight games and you still got
nine left, but at this point in the season when
the offense hasn't taken on.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Do you have to look at everything? Do you stay
the course?
Speaker 7 (09:01):
We should, Hondo, honestly, we should. I mean, it's not
productive enough, you know, whether it doesn't matter a pick
a winner, you know what I mean. Honestly, we have
to be able to produce more points in order to
win games in this league, and right now we're not
doing that.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And so that's obviously my responsibility.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
And we'll take a look at everything we're doing, everybody
that's doing it, you know, and try to figure out
if there's a better way that's what we can do.
There's still nine games to go, you know, so we
have a lot of football left. We have played stretches
of good football, but you know, certainly.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Not consistently enough. Maybe change that quarter I'm not going
to talk about that right now.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
So the potential of making a move at quarterback could
be there as well too. Now, whether I mean Brian
Hoyer was an active last night, so it was Aidan
O'Connell who was the backup. But Jimmy Garoppolo, I don't know.
I mean, when you watch the Raiders, I don't know
that it's a Garoppolo problem. It just feels like the
offense as a whole and nobody's in sync.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It just it's it's funny too. It's not like they
don't have studs, right, Like you've got Devoncea. Adams are
really one of the best receivers in the league. Jacobe
Myers has been a good pickup for them, are a
nice compliment. Renfro is the one that I'm probably most
shocked has not worked out in the system. I mean,
you're talking Josh McDaniels, like New England Patriots play caller
(10:21):
who have made so many slot receivers famous, right Wels Welker,
Julian Edelman, like that position, like you go back through
the years, the way they use Troy Brown, like that
position has been so important in that system. And Hunter
Renfro was has been awesome up until Josh mchatal's arrived.
(10:44):
I don't get it, like that's that was the one
guy who's like, oh, perfect fit, like they're gonna thrive
together and has not worked out.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now, Look, Jimmy g hasn't been healthy. That's been a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
But like Josh Jacobs at running back too, very capable
of you know, doing a lot in the game. They
draft Michael Meyer to go with Austin Hooper, they have
two tight end Like I just I don't get it.
It's it literally is probably one of the most baffling things.
And I guess you could just sit there and point
at the quarterback. But like I said, Garoppolo hasn't even
(11:15):
healthy the whole time, so it's really hard to put
your finger on what it is. You know, maybe it's
just the fact that you do have a lot of
kind of newness with a new quarterback in Garoppol, even
though it's a system that he's familiar with, and try
to get on the same page with Devance Adams. Like,
I don't know, it's really hard to put your finger
(11:36):
on how this offense can't do more given the personnel,
given what should be great scheme fit.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
But remember it was Derek Carr's fault. Got to get
rid of him. Couldn't get rid of Derek Carr fast enough,
even after he signed a deal. And here we are.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And and Mike Shanahan, excuse me, Kyle Shanahan did all
his winning with Jimmy Garoppolo, you know exactly, Jimmy Garoppolo
is not in Vegas. I just when I look at
(12:12):
the Raiders situation, it's just, I mean, whatever the details
of it that go into why they're struggling and why
they're not doing good. I'll first say I agree with
Josh McDaniels when he says there's a lot of football
left to be played, and so there's still the story
(12:33):
that can be written and the outcome have a different
ending than what it seems like it's going to be
currently right now. Not With that being said, if the
ending ends up being what people are anticipating it to be,
which is based off of what the sample size that
they receive watching this team thus far, then you have
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to say that the blame is going to fall solely
on the head coach, regardless of the why and the
how of it all, that is still all going to
be laid at the foot the feet of this head coach,
and he's going to have to be able to answer
in much more detail than what he has if if
(13:18):
that's how it plays out, If you find success, you
preach and you sell hope.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
If you lose, you have to do the.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Same exact thing, but it has to be done differently,
because obviously that's a harder proposition to sell people on
how do I have hope and how do I buy
into you specifically, and how do I continue to buy
into my team knowing that we're not winning. So to me,
I think that there's you know, there's a lot that's
(13:49):
at stake for for Josh McDaniels, for his reputation because
regardless of the what, the why or the how why
the Raiders are struggling, he's he is going to be
the one that's held accountable for ultimately what their expectations
and accomplishments are.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
And it's probably his last shot.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
You got to assume, Yeah, like you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Only get two shots at this usually to be a
head coach in the NFL. Now, granted he's young enough
where maybe that's not the case if he goes somewhere
else continues to have a lot of success. And also,
I mean these things take time that there should be
patients with all of this. I mean, there was a
pretty dramatic roster turnover for the most part when they
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got there from what John Gruden had done previously, and
that's going to take some time. And I also wonder
like if you look at them within the AFC West,
I mean, you always have to contending with the Chiefs,
which is like, I don't know, probably playing the AFC
East back when Brady and Belichick were in there, you know,
like it feels like you're at best going to play
(14:54):
second fiddle because you're just you're not going to find
another Patrick Mahomes. Regardless of how good an offensive mine
you are, you're not going to find another Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
So if that's the.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Case, like you're always kind of playing from behind or
playing for second, and Raiders fans probably don't want to
hear that, but it's kind of the truth, right, I mean,
if you were the Dolphins, Bills or Jets during the
Brady Bill Belichick era, with the exception of a few
a few years, you probably felt like, yeah, we're probably
(15:26):
playing for second this year.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You might have hoped different, but the reality was how
many how many times do.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
They win the AFC East? Was it like nineteen, like
sixteen or nineteen times something like that?
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, that was a lot, it was.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It was a ridiculous amount, like passed a lot, it was.
It was a ridiculous amount. And it feels like, obviously
if you look at the AFC West, like that's the
scenario that those three other teams, the Chargers, Broncos and Raiders.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Are in now.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
But for McDaniels, no, I think it's it's tough because,
you know, I think because of how things went down Indianapolis,
there's there's you know, maybe some I don't know if
there's hesitation about how people have viewed that scenario. But
this is a second shot, and it may be his
last shot as a head coach in the NFL just
because of how that typically works. You could be a
(16:13):
great coach, but if things don't work out for you,
like teams, just don't have a hard time selling you
if it doesn't work out.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Twice before, let me propose something to you guys before
we get to break. The Raiders are playing the Giants
this weekend. First to ten wins, e. I mean, let's
not even let's not even wait around for the four quarters.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
If somebody I'm just say first to fourteen.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Okay, LeVar, what do you want ten or fourteen? What
you're going with? You can also split the difference here.
You want to go twelve and a half, You do
what you want.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Yeah, I'm a they had negative nine yards passing, then
I'm gonna go twelve.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yeah, I would go to it. And by the way,
not the lowest point total of the weekend in the
NFL either. It is not until first twelve, which is
kind of a kind of not a great look for
teams like the Titans and the Steelers on Thursday night
who have a lower point total in that one. So
I've got some quarterback questions there. But hey, have we.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Still not talked about the Iowa situation?
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Are they still playing football in Iowa?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I just I mean, I'm looking through the rundown.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
We have Iowa Sam who should be full vindicated based
on what's happening there.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
You know, we've Brian Farns. Brian Farren's not returning next
season as announced by the school.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
This is all we're going to give it.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
At the end of Okay, I'm just well, okay, I'll
tell you what coming up next here from the tire
rack dot Com Studios. There's a person on this show
that tried to rip apart an entire family, and we'll
tell you who that is next.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 3 (17:56):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Rington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you Hare coming
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Why did say? Jk s? Show? And my script? It's
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take it over? Even though Joel Klatt tried to steal it?
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Jonas, why did he steal your name? I think he
did steal it?
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Didn't he tried to? Why? Oh he tried to. Like
anybody that's been listening to Fox programming long enough knows
what programming? Fox, You didn't say it the right way? Yeah?
Can you try it again? Fox? No, how do you
want me to say it? You give zero? What? Stop?
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Ah?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yeah, come on, don't piss Sam. I know, I know, Sam.
We do have a special Halloween.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Is our dumb button so far away by the way, Yeah,
I know it's not as much fun as the other one.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's so far away. Yeah, and then it doesn't light up,
so you don't even know. So we do have a
special Halloween.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Edition of You and of You out coming up here
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dot com. So it was announced yesterday that Iowa's offensive coordinator,
Brian Farrence if that last name sounds familiar, he is
the son of head coach Kirk Farence, that he will
not be returning next year as Iowa's offensive horns. No
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believe it or not, this was after there was a
there was a little something added to his contract where
he had to average twenty five points per in order
to get some accelerators in his deal and get paid
a little bit more. And even though that he's the
son of the head coach no longer going to be
the offensive coordinator moving forward. So congratulations to Iowa, Sam
(20:12):
and the hooligans who make up crop circles and destroy
families in Iowa because you have now cost this man
a job with his father, because all you guys wanted
to do is complain about how the offense looked. Congratulations Sam, Where.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Do you go?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Sam?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
I mean, I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 9 (20:30):
It'd be nice to average more than like thirteen points
a game, you know, Now, do you.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Have reservations or concerns about Kirk Farns potentially hanging around
to make the next hire?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Like?
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Yes, yeah, I think that a lot of people float
to the idea out there that he might just go
ahead and retire after this season just to sort of
save face with everybody. And he's been there now, this
is his twenty fifth season, twenty fourth and so he's
been there to ninety nine. That very well could be,
But I mean, I don't know. They could just do
so much better with a capable offense. Even if they
(21:04):
just scored another five six points a game, they'd probably
be you know, they'd be seven to one.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
If they learned the rules. They could probably feel a
punt too. Oh wow, Wow, you feel punts, don't you.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Wow?
Speaker 9 (21:20):
Listen, this was a long time coming. If Kirk Ferris
was going to be the decider whether his son had
a job or not, we would never get past this.
So someone, Beth gets the interim AD had to step
in and she made an executive decision, and people, I
think we just took a big sigh of relief.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
I mean, is this maybe a scenario Be careful what
you wish for though, Yes, listen, I mean yeah, because let.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Me let me play this out for you.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Say sure.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think I was one of the third most games
of the span of the last like five or six
or something like that.
Speaker 9 (21:52):
Right behind they are slightly above Penn State, but they're
at behind the state Michigan. That's correct.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yes, I understand they play in the Big ten West.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, so that is a leasier But like, they play
a style in which I think it allows them to
play in some of these tight games. It doesn't stress
their defense. They play field position battles.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And they win a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I just I feel like if you go to a
dramatically different direction, you're gonna be begging for the days
where you were an eight to nine win team, that
could be a ten win team, and you could be
hovering around a.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Six win t that's what fans do. It's Bo Polaini Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, I mean, like I could see this setting up
where Iowa has a hard time being able to replicate
the consistency of what Kirk Ferrence has been able to do.
Speaker 9 (22:44):
Okay, let's say Kirk. Let's say Kirk Farren sticks around.
If your if your offense is even slightly better, it's
gonna it's gonna piece fans enough.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And that's fine. But here's the problem with like winning
your offense to be better. There is a formula for
like your offensive production, but also not stressing your defense.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Well, they've been doing, I understand.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Because they've they've had such a lack of offense for
the past couple of years in particular, right, but there's
also been those moments and times when like they've had
to turn it on and they've turned it on.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, Like, man.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
I'm just saying I try. I try to look at
the body of work more so than just this year.
Like I'll be real.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
With last you guys three seasons, right, but you guys
went to the transfer portal and acted like that was
going to solve all your issues this year.
Speaker 9 (23:30):
I get it, they're starting over within basically new quarterback
they've got. They lost all their top tight ends, and
the tight end is a central part of what Brian
Farrence does. It's probably been the only position that's been
like even last.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Year, like the last times we've gone there.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Like their offensive line that I think they thought it
was gonna be better than it was early on, and
it took a while for them to jail. Once to
jail the second half of the season, they were much better.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Their offensive line hasn't been good since the pandemic season.
Some of that might do with the offensive line coach too,
who's hired in twenty foot one.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Sure that could play might.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
Be a leak in the roof, but you know, listen, overall,
an offensive coordinator in his first year implementing some newish
schemes would still probably be better than Brian Farrens's product.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Careful what you wish for, because we will for sure
save this for next year.
Speaker 9 (24:16):
Well, I can't control what Kirk ference does. If he
wants to retire because of this decision that's been made,
then he's welcome to. But he could look at it
as it just like, how about the last his contract
goes till twenty twenty nine. How about he looked at
it as the next five to six years. He turns
a page and does the old new Kirk.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I understand that point. Go bring in, go bring in
an air raid guy, all right, Phil Longer.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Oh, they're never gonna, They're never gonna. They don't want
a guy. But hear me out fundamentally change anything. Yeah,
hear me out.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Less you want to talk about Phil Longo if you
know a lot about his scheme, He's an air raid
guy who came in and they tried that right, brought
in a transfer quarterback who's supposed to be Taylor fit
for it. What happened, Morcai got benched. They tried to
slung it around a little bit, didn't work, and they've
turned exactly into a version of what they were. And
they're running the football again with Brayleen Allen trying to
control the line of scrimmage, and now.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I have a freshman QB in there.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So I'm just saying, like, you got to be careful
of what you wish for, because there is a formula
and a thought process to a guy who's done it
more successfully than arguably anyone in the history of Iowa
outside Hayden Fry.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
They say, you're absolutely rights right.
Speaker 9 (25:19):
Yeah, no, listen again, just this comes down to the
fact that, yes, that they've squeaked out a lot of wins,
but they're always I can't.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Wait till can't wait till you guys are scoring twenty
five plus points a game.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Then we'll see what okay.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
Then then the defense can play a little worse. If
the offense plays a little better, they're still going to
have the same. I think they're gonna it's gonna shake
out the same.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's what you're hoping for.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
By the way, By the way, Sam's reaction is similar
to when you're talking to a buddy about why he
should break up with his check. It's like, listen, man,
she's just not the one. Yeah, I know, but you
just don't yet you did, Sam.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
I'm the one who's been watched delusional. But it's not
to move on.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
He's so, he's so so it just frustrated and flustered
with the whole thing with Iowa.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
It's been very frustrating because they do everything they do
two thirds of the game well and one third is
an absolute joke.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
By the way, what do you want for your final?
Like kind of this is a successful year for Iowa.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, ten wins season ten, ten to three, you know,
eleven and two. You see the point total for Iowa.
Northwestern opened up at twenty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Twenty nine and listen, I didn't think it was gonna
win a team.
Speaker 9 (26:30):
They're four and four, yeah, and I didn't think they
just like North Maryland, they did, and they've been playing tough.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And what did they were? They were down thirty one
to ten I think to Minnesota and came back and
won that game.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But they don't have much of an offense though, So I'm.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Just surprised by Northwestern being, uh, you know, actually.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Being four and four.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
So yeah, all right, that'll conclude Northwestern Iowa talk.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Thank you? What he died and a half?
Speaker 9 (26:51):
They point And oh I heard a crazy stat. Seventy
five percent of teams. I don't know how far this
back this goes seventy five percent of teams coming off
a bye week? Oos is that is that? How is
that possible? I don't know how far back that goes go.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Back and fact checked that this isn't college football.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yes, in college football. By the way, Uh, I did
get a text message that's this year. I don't know.
I did get a text message from a certain somebody
who's worked here at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
For a long time. He's now a member of the
put some personal information out that you could use against somebody.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, no, he's now. He's now he works on the
Herd with Colin Cowherd. And he wrote in he said,
Sam's going to need new boxers after all this Iowa talk.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
I think, okay, but but the last thing to your
ten win season, they go to Northwestern versus Wreckers versus
Illinois at Nebraska.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh, I think, do they get the ten wins with
the bowl game?
Speaker 9 (27:46):
Maybe, but they're there, they could be tripped up a
couple times along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So yeah, I mean every one of those games.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You get every one of those games, and you would say,
if you had a better.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
That's what I love about the Big Ten West, Like, that's.
Speaker 9 (27:55):
What I love that Minnesota at the top right now,
Sure they're leading. Yeah, so you said Minnesota have rose
buwls since like nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
So but That's what's fun, is Yeah. You every week
you're like, all right, who's gonna get to twelve?
Speaker 9 (28:08):
For you as an outsider or watching well not outside,
but you know you're you watching the Big ten West
as a Notre Dame guy. But for me, when I
watch Iowa, whether they win or lose, it's a traumatizing experience.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
By the way, the twenty traumatizing. See twenty nine and
a half total between Iowa and Northwestern and college football
alone by themselves, there are fifty eight teams that average
more than twenty nine and a half points a game
alone by themselves.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Is it the lowest since the start of the millennium?
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I think so, it's a lot. I mean it's bumped
up in certain places, like thirty and a half now,
But I.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Might throw in some bets just to bet it back down,
I know, just see what we can get in, Just
see how low.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
We can get this thing. Can we get to twenty
eight and a half?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
My buddy and I used to do that. We would
call QBC and put in fake bids to try and
get the numbers to jump up on the screen. Back
in the day. That's what we got to do. We'll
start putting in bets and just see we can get
this thing back down to like twenty five. Come on, Sam,
chip in a little bit here, who needs mega millions
and chip?
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Hey, Sam, do this. We'll get a round of applause
though for Sam.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Round.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I mean you did it, Sam, you did endure.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Yep, you did it. Come on, give me any to
do with it?
Speaker 10 (29:22):
Yeah more, come on one more times, come on to
come on here.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, all right, all right, Top got me, top, gut me.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Oh man, so good, top gunning me. Sam got him fired.
Nice work, Sam. It is Two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 3 (32:21):
All right? Lead to lat we got a Halloween special.
Let's hear it?
Speaker 6 (32:24):
Yes, that is right, Jonas, we do have a Halloween special.
And I got to start with costume parties? Are you
guys costume parties?
Speaker 3 (32:30):
People? Do you do couples costumes?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
We used to do a big ass costume party when
we lived in our house in Annapolis, Maryland. We haven't
done it since then. But if I were in a
place where I had a whole bunch of friends and
our community was pretty big, I'd say, I'm in.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Yeah, I'm in.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
They're fun, Yeah, they're fun. I'm in.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Do you guys make your own costumes? Or your more
store bought.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
We custom Our store bought.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Time for that crap.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I was I was the black conan a few years back.
I was was going to be black because I'm black.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Ya, I was.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Racist?
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Man?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
You racist? I didn't know that was racist.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I mean, I am apparently a lot of things these days.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I mean apparently apparently, Okay, apparently.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I assume Lee, I assume you make your outfits.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
I'm just very cheap. So I just put on a
Ghostbusters shirt, which I have and uh, I wanted to
shirt you where every day?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah exactly. And a Safari hat.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Yeah like a Ghostbusters a fifth helmet and uh, and
a Hunter's best like I'm a ghost Hunter.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Okay, I might as well be the guy from Jumanji.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Every single year.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
What I've done it a few Jumanji all right? That. Yeah,
whenever you found When I was a kid, I went
all out.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
I do like zombie makeup stuff and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
I went to Frankenstein like seven years in a row.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
I was big Star Wars growing up, and it was
like the plastic plastic costume that you put in the
box after you were done wearing it, then you wear
it again next year.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
So, since I had two brothers and we were kind
of close in age, he'd be Yoda one year.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
Care of those, yeah right, we had one of those.
I'd be you don't wear Dark Invader. Then there was
Luke Skywalker, so we rotated. I used to do Zombie
Farve a lot, zombie bread far Oh.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
My god, it was just that kid, Lee. You were
that kid and and you had candy in your mouth
while you was asking for more candas and trick or Cheat.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I went as uh, the Ultimate Warrior one year, and
because I didn't have long hair, my mom thought, well,
we'll just go to a thrift store and buy you
a wig. So she went to the thrift score a
thrift store and bought the wig, but she cut it
too short that I walked up to some guy's door
and he's like, what are you supposed to be a
little girl? I had all the makeup on. Oh wow,
(35:15):
And I'm like, oh my god. My Mom's like, yeah,
I probably cut that wig a little short. But yeah,
the makeup probably didn't help either.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Mom.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Never, I mean, if you were an Ultimate Warrior, did
you have a shirt on?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I wasn't jacked like him. I'm on the gas. You
know it's warm out here.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
You might have not, Sam, What are you gonna go on?
Is this year a tombstone with Brian fan walk around?
Speaker 9 (35:42):
That's a good that's a good one. But I am
already dressed up as like a I don't know, some
character from Breaking Bad. I have a pios armanos apron
on so you'll see a picture of it later.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
So I've seen it, but I wasn't sure if that
was gonna.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Be your thought. I thought that was, well, that's a
good idea, it's good to do. I thought it was
well played. Oh what I'll do? Got you guys in
er out on candy corn out.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I used to be in, but I'm out now, disgusting.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You guys enter out on dressing your dogs hours.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I think the joints that they be putting them on
now is is pretty funny, Like you look like they're
running with a gift and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
I'm in. I'm in. You got legs in or out?
On caramel apples? Do you say can and can't? I
have then ears camel and the camell especially they have
nuts on them.
Speaker 6 (36:34):
And and a happy birthday to Nick Dame John Candy
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Perfect
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