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November 1, 2023 40 mins

The sign-stealing investigation into Connor Stalions gets even more bizarre. The first College Football Playoff rankings are released. The Commanders deal both Montez Sweat and Chase Young before the trade deadline. The Midweek Awards on “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly,” plus a recap of Halloween night.

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Speaker 5 (00:39):
Hell, you know about a var Oh my god, come on,
what's the problem.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Try to see what you know about it?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's my song, so I know all about it. Rolling
Down in the Deep that is.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
That's so funny to me that I thought for sure
you picked this. I mean, maybe I'd put it in
a previous pick of songs that I gave his options.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's okay, So are we changed up the songs again?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Let's go. I mean, I got banger after bang. I'm
I'm ready, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
That first song was a banger.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
First hour, Edge Crusher by Fear Factory. Yeah, I mean
like that song was big in ninety eight.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Edge Crusher by Fear Factory.

Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yeah you Edge Crusher was on the top the number
one charts.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Why you didn't come into Why don't you come into
the first hour saying var well, you know about edge Crusher.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Because you already know everything about edge Crusher. You used
to listen to that when you would do hack squats.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I mean you did used to play on the edge.
I used to crush people.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, hell yeah, you wore the edge Crusher of bar.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean technically you set yourself up for that one,
did I? Yeah? How old that edge crusher? What what
ninety eight?

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (01:57):
You were crushing some edges back in.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Ninety Yeah, it was off I was I was not
an edge guy in ninety eight.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Hey, let me here's a little fun fact.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Was condisorder? Yeah you worry? We just off the edge?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, a little fun fact for you.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
That album that that came from Obsolete by Fear Factory,
if you go through and read, it was like a
storyboard album to where they would like tell you a
story from song to song, and it was all about
how if we keep going down the path we're going,
technology is going to take over for humans. And look
at all these years later, twenty five years in advance.

(02:33):
They called their shot that Burton Seabell ro what the
hell are you talking about? Just saying man, well, I mean,
can we talk some action? I mean, I don't know
why if we have to wait so.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Long we talking action?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I would like to the debut on Halloween and we
got snow games snow.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
So Jim mackawayin out there to defend what the hell's
happening with the Connors Stallions investigation. How Central Michigan catches
a stray Dude, this whole Michigan signs stealing probe or
investigation is becoming wild as I'm not levard do you
see this?

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Apparently, but I didn't understand.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
So apparently Connor Stallion's was on Central Michigan sidelines, and
I guess they're playing it's Michigan State if I'm not mistaken, yeah, zero,
And so now they're trying to figure out how he
got down to Central Michigan sidelines.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Crazy and then d like what.

Speaker 6 (03:30):
He was doing if he was working for Central Michigan,
if he was like his all of sudden, Michigan and
Central Michigan like hate Michigan State. I mean, I know
they there's the rivalry there, but there's like so many
layers to the story.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
And I know people are going to say, well, you're
just being naive where you guys are trying to fan
way up to Jim Harbaugh. I find it hard to
believe that they would give him instructions to Hey, we
know you've been having success filming people from the stands,
why don't you go ahead and stand on the sidelines time,
like Goha, go ahead and stand on the sidelines. Let's
just be as blatant as we can about it, like

(04:04):
it just doesn't because you hear people talking. I think
it was Bruce Feldman who said.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Over sunglasses on so you know that covers up.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
But I think it was Bruce Feldman who made the
point over the weekend on Fox when he said, look,
they're they're on Fox when he said there are there
are people around college football who are surprised that they
would be just kind of this lacks of days a
goal with like covering their tracks, which which leads me
to believe this feels like somebody that was going a

(04:35):
little bit more rogue than a lot of people want
to say because they just want to blame Harbor on
making an easy fix.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
It's almost like where's Waldo, Like everyone's gonna be look
at where's Connor. Stein's like, let's let's let's look through
all the photos and videos. He's just popping up on
different teams.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Sidelines like there was but he is an employee for
this coaching staff.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
Correct, Yeah, but there's like a Division three coach made
the point over the weekend he's an anonymous D three
coach and he said, yeah, he's all. You know, he
gave me some money to go to these games, and I,
you know, kind of scouted for him, and you know,
I just assumed, I mean, everybody else is doing it.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
What's the big deal?

Speaker 5 (05:12):
And exactly so like the idea that you know, Michigan
would say, hey, Connor, we know you're busy, man, so
why don't you just go ahead and kind of pass
off some of the work to a D three coach
that we don't know about, so he can do some
of our scouting for us.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Like I just find that hard to believe.

Speaker 6 (05:28):
I did all be honest, like I said, when I
was a little kid, like this is back in the
early nineties, like maybe like ninety one.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
I used to go with my uncle.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
We had a buddy who was a coach in Ohio
high school football and we used to advance scout.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'd sit there next to my uncle in the stands.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
We'd look at we'd literally chart the game, and he'd
look for a singles different things. And I used to
do that when I was seven and eight years old,
Like I remember vividly doing this. I mean, it's just
this stuff's gone on forever. I now I find it
more entertaining to see, like what comes out of it. Yeah,
it's you know, and like who gets drug into all this,

(06:07):
like Central Michigan, which it would be pretty easy if
he wasn't a part of your staff, or if he
was a coach on your staff Connor Stallions, or maybe
it's a misidentification, like it's just a dude who looks
like Connor Stallions. You just come out and say, no,
that's this guy, and I know he looks like him,
but that's not him. But clearly Central Michigan didn't do that.

(06:28):
And now they're kind of at the bottom of like,
all right, what's our story here?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
All right?

Speaker 6 (06:31):
Because clearly we hired this guy to you know, help
us out here, and what do we want to tell
the public it's.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
A hell of a name to be out there for
such a you know type of what it's really the
last name. I mean, the first name could be anything,
but when you have Stallions, this is your last.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Name, Bartholomew Stallions. You know that's a great last name.

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Anything, you know, anything you want to put in front
of it. Since we're on this topic of college football,
the first playoff rankings came out and credit where credits do?
Brady Quinn called a shot. The Ohio State Buckeyes are
number one in the playoff rankings.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
Look, I've been a part of this process now working
in the media, and it's like, you know or have
an idea of what the committee's doing, and they really
want to value the strength of schedule and the wins
so far, and that's what they dealt with the highest state.
They've got the two best wins in my opinion. They
beat Notre Dame on the road, a top ten team.

(07:30):
I think they have them now with fifteenth or whatever
it is in the ranking, and they beat Penn State,
who's a top ten team. So I look at them
and I just say, like that was going to carry
them so far and for all the Michigan fans who
are upset they're sitting there at third. I mean, for starters,
you're going to have your opportunity to make your case
because they got Penn State coming up here in two
weeks in the Ohio State at the end of the season.

(07:53):
But more so than that, like they had a soft
non schedule or a non conference schedule, Like that's just
the reality of it as compared to how the College
Football Playoff Committee views the SEC and Georgia's strength to
schedule so far, they just they value what they've done
so far more so, Look, all three of those teams, really,
all four could still.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Make it in in my opinion, Like I'll be.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Curious because this is what's setting up with Ohio State
at one, and I'm assuming Ohio State wins out until
they play Michigan, all right, And if Michigan wins out,
which is a big if given that they've got to,
you know, go to Happy Valley and take on Penn State,
it's setting up for if Michigan was to beat Ohio State,
they go to one, and I would think that it'd

(08:39):
be hard to drop Ohio State out further than four.
But maybe maybe Michigan just moves up one. I mean,
who knows how it plays out, because I don't think
they want to rematch of Ohio State Michigan to get
in the playoff. Or maybe they do. I mean, if
you really want me to put my conspiracy theory hat on.
Since ESPN will never ever get an Ohio State Michigan

(09:01):
game and they control the College Football Playoff Committee in
the final year of the fourteen playoff, maybe they do
have a rematch of Ohio State Michigan. If that plays
out in the semi.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Final game, that'd be awesome. Could you imagine that?

Speaker 5 (09:18):
Well, remember we were talking about this last year and
we were making the point that I would be totally
up for any common Like if it would have been
the national title game and it would have been Michigan
Ohio State, there would have been peeled been like, oh,
you know that we've got fatigue with this. It's like, okay,
we've seen it with you know, Alabama, Clemson, Alabama, Georgia,
like we've seen teams that have played recently that meet
up again Ohio State Michigan on a neutral site would

(09:41):
be awesome, and especially on that that type of stage.
So if that's that way this turns out.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
I'm into me. What if they ended up on a
neutral site against Penn State? You know it's true, Yeah,
it's possible.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
It's a good point. A lot of things would have
to happen, but again, yeah, a.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Lot of things could happen. Yeah, I mean, especially with Georgia. Yeah,
I would put it on more so the Georgia teams.
And then what Oregon and Washington was in it as well.
Well they're five and six five, so Washington's five, Oregon six.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Yeah, by the way, things can happen with those two teams. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
I still I still can't believe how under the radar
Georgia is this year, Like why did you say that? Okay,
December fourth, twenty twenty one is the last time they
lost a game, And it's almost like Deon Sanders and
Colorado get all the love Jim Harbaugh and Connor Stallions
being on the CMU sideline possibly is getting all the

(10:38):
love you've got Heisman Trophy debates, Caleb Williams and USC's dysfunction,
and Georgia just continues on and we're looking at three
years that they haven't lost a game, and it's like, eh, whatever,
We're just used to it at this point.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
It's kind of weird.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
And it just kind of tells you where a society
is at, Like we would rather look at the drama
of things than the greatness of what George is doing there.
They would shout to be by the way Carson beck
their quarterback, has been phenomenal, Like he's putting together a
campaign that's gonna make him look like one of the

(11:13):
top quarterbacks to be drafted when he's draft eligible next year.
Like you're you're getting to those starts of the points
and discussion, and I think part of the reason is,
you know, not as many of these guys are as
known outside of brock Bauers and Beckett quarterback because you've
lost so many talented I guess household names in college

(11:34):
football to the draft, and then you have a new
group of guys, a crop of players that come through.
So I think that's a little bit part of it too,
is like with Caleb Williams, he won the highsman. We
know Caleb Williams, so we like talking about Kayleb Williams
or bow Knicks, who's in his sixth year, who's playing
at a Heisman level, right now, like it's easier to
talk about those guys because they've been there forever and
you kind of know them and they played well, whereas

(11:55):
George is just cycling through stud after stud you know,
player after are losing more to the NFL.

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over twenty minutes from now from the tire rack dot
Com Studios. So it was deadline day for NFL trades
around the league. Yesterday we talked about the Josh Dobbs trade.
He's now going to be the starting quarterback after this
week for the Minnesota Vikings. And then there was one
team that was in particular very active in trading away

(13:48):
a couple of defensive stars, and that team would be
the Washington Commandos. The Washington Commandos trade away Chase Young
to the forty nine Ers for a third round pick.
Montes Sweat goes to the Bears for a second round pick,
and so you look at it, you all right, well,
they already paid Payne and Allen on that defensive line,
So these were two guys that were looking at contracts

(14:11):
after the season. They didn't pick up the fifth year
option on Chase Young, and so of course, you know,
it's the usual suspects. It's either Philly, San Francisco or
Miami who seems to make moves like this. Now, Chase
Young is a forty nine er and he'll play opposite
of Nick Bosa, who he played with at Ohio State.
So it does feel like a nice little addition there

(14:32):
for the Niners as they go ahead and continue to
as stack on talent to that defensive front.

Speaker 6 (14:37):
I mean, this is a group, right that has struggled
to get pressure in recent weeks. They're on a three
game losing skid. This is what you do when you're
trying to get back into things. Be competitive, go win
a super Bowl. You go make a move, which I
mean a third round pick for Chase Sung for the
rest this year and the ability to tag him keep

(14:57):
him in the future. For another year and kind of
keep on this run while brock Purty is on his
rookie deal. To me, it's huge, and I think it
can help alleviate or solve some of the issues that
you're starting to see where if the forty nine ers
have a hard time matching up outside all right, I mean,
there's not much you can do about that outside of

(15:19):
being able to get to the quarterback faster. And if
Washington's willing to move on from their two starting defensive
ends who've been pretty solid this year and Chase Young
Montes sweat, I mean, teams.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Are going to take advantage of that.

Speaker 6 (15:30):
So I think it's a deal that honestly works for
both both teams, you know, for Washington for the future
adding on to you know, what they've got, and then
for San Francisco trying to win, you know, right now.
So it's it was a bit surprising, and it's funny
like if you look at the line this week, which
I'm sure Jonas you can look that up on DraftKings, Like,

(15:53):
what's the message that you're sending to your locker room?
Like That's the thing I worry about, LeVar, is if
you send your two starting to e ends who I
think combined have like it's.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Like eleven and a half sacks where it is so
far this year?

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, you know, like you what do you sitting the
guys in the locker room like, Oh, those guys weren't
cutting it.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
I mean Casey two helps me good. I think he's
got four sacks in the season. Yeah, and Smith Williams
will it's only got one. But it's like, I don't know,
maybe they feel like those guys are too expensive.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
I don't know. Extract two teeth out of your mouth.
Smile and you got two holes in your mouth when
you're smiling. But you know what, it could still be
considered to be a pretty smile until you figure out
what you're going to do with them holes in your mouth.
I don't I don't understand it. I really don't. You know,
this team is kind of a fringe team. It is

(16:43):
a fringe team. I keep saying kind of. I try
to give people the benefit of that it's a fringe team.
They're on the fringe of being a decent team or
a bad team. Once again, your defense, in a lot
of ways is the reason why you're actually halfway halfway decent.

(17:05):
In some of these games that you're in and your
offense hasn't quite quite been a catalyst to say for
for what you've been able to do during the course
of this season. So I don't you know they I mean,
I don't know, man. They've been averaged on both sides

(17:29):
of the ball. So it's kind of hard to try
to categorize which one is to blame for why they're
not as good as they could be, because I think
they could be a better team, Like this is the
story of Washington. You look at them personnel wise, they
have a superior personnel put together, like from receivers to

(17:53):
Their offensive line is pretty good. Their defensive line is
phenomenal on paper, was phenomenal on paper, I mean still
interior anteriorly, it's still phenomenal on paper. Your linebackers are
pretty pretty solid. Your secondary is pretty solid. It's not
not going to blow you away, but pretty solid. And

(18:14):
they they continue to underachieve. Now as as the as
the I guess the environment changes and the expectations are
are met made made clear by this new ownership group,
maybe all of this changes, but as of right now,
it just seems like it's much of the same going on.

(18:34):
It's it's a it's a good group, a talented group
that continued to underachieve. But getting rid of your two
your two ends now. I haven't seen Chase Young look
the same since coming back from that injury. Like he
had one good weekend, think he had like a heavy
stat line, maybe one or two games, but largely in part,

(18:56):
he just doesn't look like he's moving the same now.
Montes Sweat is He's a different story. Monteses is a
beast and he makes plays and he's a baller. So
I don't know why you get rid of both of them,
like in those two specific positions out.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Of all of them, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Maybe they're trying to get the most value that they
possibly can for guys that they fill our you know,
I guess to their team expendable at this point.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
So that's the only reasoning I could come up with.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
So there's three different categories here. There's the financial category,
which is, well, we already paid John Allen and Deron Pain,
so does it make sense to load up and pay
these guys who are going to look for big money
contracts at.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
The edge position?

Speaker 5 (19:36):
And then there's the plausible reason, which would be well,
you know Chase Young's health. As LeVar pointed out, he
hasn't been the same player. We didn't pick up his
fifth year option because of that. It was just time
to move on. And then there's this one, which is
a little bit more juicy. So Mike Silver, Brady's guy
covering football for this, I've got I'm sorry I didn't know,

(20:01):
but courtesy of the San Francisco Chronicle, Mike Silver said,
quote the following Chase.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Have a.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
Chase Young on late Sunday nights. Or according to several commanders, coaches,
and others and other organizational sources, Chase Young was viewed
as an undisciplined player who developed bad habits, such as
deviating from assignments in an effort to make splash plays.
That according to Mike Silver, so maybe there was a

(20:32):
little bit of a problem between Chase Young and Ron
Rivert and the staff. And one of the stories that
was out in the off season.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
Was that that's a great story but doesn't explain though,
what LeVar just said, which you don't need to move
on from both. Okay, you could have kept one, and
the reality is this, It's not like Sam House costs
you a lot of money, and so just because you
pay your interior defensive tackles doesn't mean you can't pay
your edge defender, especially when that's i'd on his way
to double digit sacks this season, the way Montes Sweat

(21:02):
was playing, and so instead you give up a second
round picked Chicago for him.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I mean, I just my whole.

Speaker 6 (21:09):
Thing is like, Okay, if that's the case on Chase Young,
all right, you get a third round pick in exchange,
but why not Sweat then?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Has?

Speaker 6 (21:15):
I mean, you won He's unrestricted free agent next year,
so you could have potentially used the tag on him
and try to work out a longer term deal depending
on how things go. You didn't have to just you know,
try to get him for you know, whatever you could.
It just it doesn't make as much sense to me
because and by the way, if Sam How's the guy

(21:36):
or not, they're probably going back to the draft and
drafting one in the first round, which is not going
to cost you that much at least for the.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Next few years.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
It's just it's surprising to me that they would kind
of take the stance that they did. And I do
think they've got a decent on a cap space heading
into next year. If I'm not mistaken, it's a hit
scratchery to me, I don't I don't think that Chases
so much of a head scratcher. And it almost reflects
and what value they got for the trades, Like they

(22:07):
got more value for for sweat than they did for
Chase Young. So I just think that it's Chase is
going to have to find his way, and I don't
know what that looks like.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
His new norm looks like somebody who's built the way
he's built. When when when you get a body part
like a knee that's off, it could throw, it throws.
I speak from experience, and I'm built nothing like Chase Young.
I mean, you want to talk about if you were
to carve out what you're perfect football player at that position,

(22:44):
it's supposed to look like Chase Young would be on it,
like he would be on that guide of for defensive ends.
This is how he's supposed to look when Yeah, I
mean that's that's real talk. I mean, so when you
hurt yourself and you're off balance like that and you're
built like that, it's it's almost like putting for fusion

(23:04):
tires one one for fusion tire on a Ferrari and
you got four Ferrari tires.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, but you got a.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
For fusion on on the front left Like it's it's
not it's not going to run correctly, you know. So
I could understand that. And I'm not sure what's going
to happen in San fran with Chase. I hope it,
you know, works out for him. Maybe he turns into
more of a run stopping defensive end. But Montest, what

(23:32):
gets to the quarterback? Montest, what is is an impact player?
And you don't you don't get like that's not a
dime a dozen where you get a guy that can
impact the game from the edge the way that's what
has been able to do.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
So that that one's still a hit scratcher.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Going back to the initial point is they have five
picks next year in the top one hundred.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
They have ninety million dollars in cap space.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
So to sit there and say like you couldn't have
you know, figured something out, you put the tag on
a long term deal, what have you. It doesn't make
any sense to be I mean again, getting rid of
both doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
You could have picked one or the other. And I
understand the.

Speaker 6 (24:08):
Concerns about Chase Young's injury history, and maybe that's part
of it too, But Montez Sweat to me, would have
been the player that you keep and you figure out
a way of getting a long term deal. It just
seems odd that they would move on from him for
a second round pick.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
So, yeah, for the second round pick. By the second
year in a row the Bears have traded a second
round pick for a player. Last year was Chase Claypool.
That worked out well, So hopefully this is going to
be a little bit different than that.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah, I thank you. You have a different impact on.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
The are They are dead last in the league by
a wide margin in sacks. They've got ten on the year,
and Sweats got six and a half alone, so they
were makes a lot of sense for them, Yes, And
you would assume if they're giving up this draft capital
that means they're going to try and figure out a
long term deal for him. You would assume, because the
Bears have a ton of calf space.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
But he's proven he's deserving too.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
By the way, I think the Bears have eighty five
million and obviously the Commanders will have ninety.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Million next year. Yeah, they got a lot, so obviously
they have a lot of picks.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
So so there it is the very very busy for
the Washington Commandos yesterday at the trade deadly and also
Josh Harris, the brand new owner you know, the day
before he traded James Harden.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
So maybe he was just like, you know, that was.

Speaker 5 (25:19):
So much fun, why don't you just go ahead and
deal these guys as well too in the NFL since
he also owns the seventy six ers.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
You think that might have been what it was.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
He had like a MISSQ like shook like like shook
a hand when he thought it was a handshake, it
really was just a hand gestured like and speaking. I
just think he was like he mad make Did he
get like trade happy?

Speaker 5 (25:37):
Yeah, he was just like this is fun. Why don't
I just who else? Two's out there? Well, second and
a third for these guys.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Screw it? Why not? It's just wheel and deal. It's
like fantasy football.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Why not trade Sam Howe? Then to to uh Minnesota.
You know.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
By the way this line opened, Washington Commanders headed New
England and minus two the Patriots giving two points, it's
now up to three and a half.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, so you know there's that could be what.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
That means to me.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
Yeah, So anytime you see line movement like that, point
and a half is somewhat significant.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
For a quarterback, you might see three. Was that fair
to say Jonas?

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yeah, depending on the quarterback. Yeah, yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
It's it's fairly significant movement for a game where you're basically,
you know, losing your two starting edge rushers if you're
the Washington Commander commanders, and you're getting an extra point
a half in essence for the loss of those two players.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
So I think at at peak Aaron Rodgers peak of
his career was worth nine to ten points.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I thought it was six, and it was more than that.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Talking to some of the guys Steve Zick, who does
these lines umbers, he was saying, yeah, he was like
nine to ten, nine to ten.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Yeah, he swung the line.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Do we ever have an example, Well, because it's.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Already got heard a couple of times, swung like six.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
It depends also on who is the backup. What does
Vegas think on the backup. So that was something that
they told me a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
That's what he was told.

Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, I mean, are you disagreeing with that? Do you
think that's a made up number.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Well, no, but it sounds kind of like remember that
one time Sam tried to tell LeVar that he wasn't
in a channitor's closet.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I'm relaying it kind of sounds like that, Yeah, a
little bit. I'm letting it go. I'm relaying the mess,
let it go.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm just saying it sounds similar to that.

Speaker 5 (27:34):
I mean, just passing along the message here. I mean
that this is what I was told, and it was
a little surprising to me. But you know, they looked
at the backup and said, Aaron Rodgers is worth that
much to the Green Bay Packers at that point. And
now you know Jordan Love is out for the Packers.
You know, the odds actually increased for them. So it's

(27:54):
a whole different world there for green Bay now with
that quarterback position. So there it is. By the way,
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shortly prove too. Did you guys get a lot of
trigger treats yesterday?

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I get at the house. Do you guys get a
lot of people roll through.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Oh yeah, I go hide.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Why you don't want people to recognize you?

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Bar No, I just don't want to deal with it.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
I got colera our neighborhoods, like the neighborhood probably where
we live to go to, so like you get, like
I was, it was actually kind of annoying because there
were so many uber and lyft drivers just coming and
dropping kids off and like obviously like they're flying up
and down streets with all these little kids and parents

(31:52):
and so like parents are getting ticked off. So people
like a lot of people have golfer They were just
like literally driving and parking golf carts the middle of
the street. I mean, the city should have blocked off
streets because there was no reason to have them all
open with all these little kids running around.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
But it's one of.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Those neighborhoods where like everyone goes to. So it's pretty cool.
It's pretty fun. It's cool to see some of the
creativity these kids, these kids have these days, and just
the fact that like they're still they're still having fun.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
There's still kids, you know, and like they want candy
and they want to you know, run around, have fund.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
And they're getting dropped off in ubers and lyfts.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
That was the thing that like stood out to me
where I'm going, Man, I remember like someone's parents would
drop you off at like the edge of a neighborhood
and then you'd go. But now it's like these kids
don't even need their parents to do it, you know,
they they've got uber.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
And lyft on it.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Things have changed. By the way, Sam is disgusted by
what you just said.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
Well, it sounds a lot like around here in Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
I don't get it.

Speaker 10 (32:50):
When I was a trick or treating kid, I left
my house in my costume and went around my own
neighborhood and then came back. There was no getting dropped off.
There was no you're lifting or taxiing.

Speaker 6 (33:01):
You have to understand, like where I live, there's not
a ton of like really neighborhoods to like walk through.
So a lot of the kids come to those areas
where you can, you know, walk on sidewalks and walk
in neighborhoods and go house to house because it's it's
it's kind of a different area the way it's it's constructed.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Strand to buy highways or something.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Uh No, there are.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
Some main roads, Like, for sure there are some main roads,
but no, there's there's high rises, there's other things.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Where you're not going door to door in someone's apartment complex.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
Yeah, but Sam, you lived on a farm, Like how
many how many places were.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Where you go up to your cows and your pigs
and being like, hey, I guess some.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Big some fresh milk?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Please? Can I get some milk? Get some milk? I mean, yeah, chickens.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I grew up. I grew up in Iowa City.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Wait farm, Wait, gre up on a farm.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Then no, IgA City is like seventy thousand people.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
I'm messing with you, Sam, Relax.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
Yeah's got a goat out front that's got like a
little tub of bazooka gum in front of him, and
that he just stops off.

Speaker 10 (34:10):
Chicken would give me one egg, one egg, pery fresh egg.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
I'll have it tomorrow, thanks Chicken.

Speaker 5 (34:20):
We didn't get We didn't get one single trick or
treader last night.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Nobody came to the door late because.

Speaker 5 (34:29):
Our house looks great place and it's kind of confusing
how to find the front door. Well, listen, figure it out,
walk up some stairs. It's not like you know, it's
you live in Bay Root, Like, walk upstairs, it's right there.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
You know.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
All the Amazon guys can find it. They all the
male guys can find it.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
And the other thing is people were like dodging Amazon
trucks because they're still trying to deliver.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Like late, you know, and so like it actually was funny. Uh.
One young man came up to our house because after
our kids.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Are done, I made them sit outside and like give
away candy, some of their candy.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
But this this young man came up in Amazon. I
was like, wait a second. I was like, are you working?
Are you He's like no, no, He's like, it's my costume.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's a great costume.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Actually it was. I was like.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
And then then there were some cops that came through
and I was like, oh, it's a great costume.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I was like, it looks really real, and they're like,
we are cops. I was like, oh, all right, my bad.
Not expect that.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
I couldn't really gay, sir, that goes like that strap
looks really like it looks really.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
I wouldn't put it past someone to like actually have
a gun on them.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
You know. It's it's like that happens. Hey, hey, buddy,
that taser. Is that is that really.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Just like a bulletproof vest?

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Yeah, this is just water in this yettie too. Don't
worry about that. Oh man, that's free, all right, Really
work cops.

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Speaker 4 (36:18):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good, bad.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
And love find lead to lap who's got what this week?

Speaker 8 (36:30):
Well, as we do each and every week, we start
with a good You know it's a good week when
we got Brady giving it out.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Hey man. Thanks.

Speaker 6 (36:37):
We don't talk baseball a lot, but I think you
have to acknowledge what the Rangers are doing is pretty
damn good if I'm not mistaken. First off, they've improved
now after last night's win. To go up three to
one in this series to ten and oh on the
road this postseason, and they're now one went away from
the first title in this sixty three season history.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
This franchise matter.

Speaker 6 (37:01):
It started as an expansion franchise originally as the Washington
Senators back in nineteen sixty one. So pretty incredible. And
to think too, like, what was it? Game three? They
lotted what sureser and along with Garcia as well, who's
one of their better bats, and they're still able to overcome.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
So it looks like the Rangers men are are going
to win the World Series.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
By the way, Adolas Garcia, that guy must curl. Oh yeah,
three hundred pounds sets of ten curl.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I'd love to see what it like push press. That's
he is.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
I'm not trying to make any accusations here.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Checked.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
I mean that didn't look all that natural. I'll be
honest with you. Oh, I mean he is.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Don't take away from the good, Jonas. This is not
your segment.

Speaker 6 (37:45):
Okay, I'm just saying now your segment, Jonas, the Rangers
are they're good?

Speaker 10 (37:49):
Oh yeah, this week, Well, you can't have the good
without the bad.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
What is it, Jonas?

Speaker 5 (37:53):
No, You're probably thinking, why would history be bad, Well,
it is in this regard because Hawaii decided you don't
want but Jonas, we know you're betting on us against
San Jose State on Saturday night, So.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
We're gonna go ahead and do you a solid.

Speaker 5 (38:06):
We're gonna go ahead and get shut out at home
for the first time in twenty five years. Hawaii football
is the armpit fart of college football.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
And of course I had money on them. It's a disaster.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Timmy Chang has got a lot of work to do,
and they're playing in front of like thirteen people there
at this makeshift stadium because they wanted to tear down
the Great Aloha Stadium and give her to all those
good times and all those memories, and now they're serving
up zeros twenty five years after the last time they
did it. Embarrassing. That's my bad for the week.

Speaker 10 (38:40):
Oh wow, Well from bad to worst, LeVar, what was
ugly this week?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Well, speaking of I saw coach Madololo at the UCLA
game this week, by the way, Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
That was interesting.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I was leaving the same scene that could be the
same of a serious crime and terms of the locker
room bandits now I don't know if it's true or
if it's not true, but I know Dion Sanders is
calling for the NCAA to.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Do something about it.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Now to me, it's ugly, like UCLA is a respectable institution,
like that's I can't see how they would have operations
that would lead to you know, young men's belongings being
taken away, they're valuables being stolen at the stadium.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
So I hope.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Something is done to make sure that there is a
statement of clarity one way or the other on what
took place and things are made, you know, made better.
But that's that's pretty ugly to me. You know, you
can't go into a locker room without your stuff getting stolen, Like,
come on, man, Like that's alleged at least, I don't

(39:52):
you know, But that's that's kind of I don't It
doesn't make sense. Mean streets of Westwood, man, you know,
well they're in Pasadena, you know. Under saying that, like
I don't know Pasadena. There's a lot of money in PASADENAA,
there's a lot of other stuff too, But anyway, I
don't know, hope something happens
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