November 3, 2023 • 40 mins
The horses come out for warm ups as the guys are LIVE from Santa Anita Park for the Breeder's Cup. They also talk the latest on the Michigan sign-stealing scandal, make picks for the Breeder's Cup Classic, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Oh yeah, oh hell yeah, baby, they're out. Oh yeah,
they are moving around.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Can you hear that?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
They're warming it up?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Are they're warming up?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Oh yeah, believe it. They are out about. We have
got movement here.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
They came out like ten traffic.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
See little wake up call last hour, told him get
your ass up.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
It's getting late in the day. You got big races
coming up.
Speaker 6 (00:59):
I better not have a sitting out here all about
our sales, the whole entire damn show.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
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Speaker 6 (01:37):
So we're sitting here thinking just before you go, like
when you're warming up and you're going to race, or
you're going to do something athletically, right, Yeah, you got
to assume that the climate is going to be dramatically
different from what they're doing right now to when they run. Yeah,
I wonder how much that plays apart, like your warming
(02:00):
up and cold, but you're probably gonna end up running
in hot Like it's probably gonna be probably like seventy
eighty by the.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Time they're running in the eighties, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
So if they're if it's in the eighties, but they're
they're warming up and and it's cold. For one, it's
probably easier on their bodies because they're not they're not
getting too hot. You can run in this. But I
just wonder how they adjust to that, Like his body's
adapting right now.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But it's cold. You know.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Isn't that similar to like when you played for Washington
when you'd go play like somewhere down south.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah, but if you think about it, right, like you
come out and warm up and warm ups and it's
cold while you're doing your like hole walk around, check
out the surface, figure out what you're gonna do, You
do your stretching, you do your little walk, check out
saf what's up everybody?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
If it's cold, I'm I'm a.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I'm a I'm adapting and adjusting what my my gear
is or what I'm doing. Like, am I gonna put
you know, vaciline on my arms and my leg versus
not put vasilin on it? Am I gonna wear long
sleeves and you know, stretch pants versus no stretch pants. Like,
there's a lot, at least for me, there was a
lot that went into you know, my pregame, my pregame
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ritual leading up to the game. So if I came
out and I was warming up in this, I'm dressing warm.
But if I came out and it's like, what forty
degrees warmer, thirty five degrees warmer than what it was,
then now I gotta try to strip and that's probably
I gotta wait till halftime, but I gotta go through
the first half of the game based off of it
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being thirty thirty five degrees warmer than what it was
when I was warming up. Even if they told you,
they told you the weather, what's that?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
But you stripped before. I mean, you've dealt with that.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
I have no problem stripping, man, like to cool down
and make sure that I don't have too much on
and so I don't overheat while I'm performing. You know,
I'm a performer, So you know, if I got to
strip down, know to nothing to make sure that I'm
putting it all out there, you know, for everybody to enjoy,
I'm That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, what's the commitment, you know which separates you from
everybody else.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It is the commitment to the performance.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Man.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
That's I mean, you gotta deliver the results because that's
what your fans pay to come to see the way.
Hell's that muffin? Oh it's been gone.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It was gone hour one, it was gone.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You smoke that blueberry?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Oh? Tore it up? What is this one right here?
What does that seem to be like?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Man?
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Lee eats like a horse, you know, I mean, he
tore that muffin up. But I ain't gonna lie. There's
some good muffins.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Tear it down, horse off a haystack.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Just just He's got a big appetite. It's like a horse.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Does your mouth go air to air when you're eating?
You know, like that, like that kind of thing, like
you know.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
You like think about it. Lee's got a lot of
qualities like a horse does. I mean he also he
uses maiden tail. It's a horse shampoo, right tail, the
long main long hair.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Does the cup.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah yeah, trots pass it out pack in the morning.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Although I got to be honest with you, I mean
a four to fifty five am wake up call seems
pretty late for a horse. I'm not betting on any
of these guys that are running. If we could get
some names over here.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's got hit lights on.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
These are actually the horses for the classic None of
the horses that are out right now are going to
be racing today.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
These are all the.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Horses racing tomorrow in the breeders. Ones with the numbers
are the classic.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay, well I'm not bett.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well I got to I guess you'll have the Let's go,
let's go drag one of those jockeys off.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Let me test ride one of those things and see
what we got.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I mean, there were tweets that were coming in Will
Jones be seen riding a horse?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So there you go, Dahn.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
She ain't here yet, so we'll see what we got.
It is two pros and a cup of joe. By
the way, we are live.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's where you're going to go with it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We are live from sand high out.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We're horses, don't you So.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
We're live from Sanity to racetrack here in beautiful Arcadia, California.
The horses are out for the Classic. As lead of
Laughter just mentioned, Brady Quinn's in Austin, Texas is he's
got the big new boys there and they're big coming
up tomorrow at noon Eastern time.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Obviously, is it cold.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Where you're at?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Q It was a lot cooler than I thought it
was gonna be I got it last night. It was
probably in like the like fifty I think maybe right now, Yeah,
I hit a little different. Oh, it hits different now.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Once you get that warm blood in you, everybody's like
you're from Pittsburgh, you can't get cold. Hey, you almost
hit the dump button on that one, you know what
I mean? When do we pick at these horses?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
By the way?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Soon bottom of the hour. So okay, so there's about
thirty after.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I'm excited for this because that I did learn some
things last year. I learned some things last year.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But did you learn some things because I didn't.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, I'll wait, I'll wait till then to tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But yeah, okay, So we've got a truck pulling up here.
What what truck is this? What do we got here?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Is he dropping the food off?
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Pulling some sweet? Do you know the cool thing? Like
you gotta you probably had like a four a m.
Wake up call maybe a little earlier to do your
prep for getting on the horse. Like I wonder, like
do they have game plan meetings like like in other sports,
like in football, Like you go watch the film, here's how.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Jonas has game plan meetings. Well that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like you mean they show the
horse like the All twenty two's, Yeah, say, hey, this
is where you went wrong here, this is the idea.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You know, look at this curve.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
There's a little bit more dirt here than there is there. Like,
you know, this horse has a stronger kick than that horse,
so you got to be this many lengths away from
that horse when you get to this point in the track, Like,
and then they come out here and they warm them up.
They and I wonder, like what do they say to
the horses? Like, they gotta be talking to them horses, right,
(08:00):
Some horses want to be talked to. They want to
know they're loved and cared about. What are you saying
to the horse while you're on that horse out there warm?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Which should we go to our resident horse whisper or
horse talker expert lead a lap I me, he does
talk to it?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Al paka lee? What what? What?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
What's the conversation patterns between a man and a horse
or or an alpaca?
Speaker 8 (08:21):
You know, you just gotta just calm them down, make
sure they're ready to go, make sure they're in their headspace.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Get give them the music. There's the music that how
do you do that?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
How do you call them?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So you play music for them while you're atting?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
You give them a little Sideye, first you gotta walk
by stride once or twice, you know, approach.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's what I do with Al.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
I just I don't just walk straight up to Al.
You know what I'm saying, like, let him know you're there.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I gotta ask.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
This is called the breeders cup, meaning if you win,
you get you know, you're getting paid for for the
breeding rights of of what's going on. And my whole
thing is don't they have girl feet male horses in
this too? Like does breeders cut matter in terms of
if you're right, if you're that? Because if if if,
what what do you get? Like what what are the
(09:08):
guys called mayors and or stallions or what what are
they called? What are they called stallion colts? Like Connor stallion,
Connor stallion? Though suspended with pay all I need to know.
I'm just curious. Like if I'm the guy and I'm
riding the guy, I'm like, look, man, if we win this,
I get I get paid, and you get that you
(09:30):
you get good hay you and you get a.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Good time, like over and over and over again.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Like that horse gets a bouquet of roses and they're
supposed to be happy with that.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Goes so much.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Horses get screwed over worse than athletes by the n
c a A, not the ones that wint better than
not the ones that win.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Bro, I'm telling you no way.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, they treat them horses better than they treat people.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Man, you know how much you know how much.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
That horse, that horse, as soon as he wins, walks
in that same living room that that league got invited.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Into into a whole different industry, whole.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
New industry, and and and not to mention, if somebody
wants to change that horse's environment, they got to pay
in the seven figures, eight figures to be able to
get that horse and change real estate.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You better win this god dang race. Hey listen, bro,
you need to win back. Yeah, let's go back to Lee.
You gotta side at it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You got it.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
You had to walk by it two or three times.
You said, just to let them know you're there.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, let him know you're there.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. I'm gonna get a
I'm gonna get a big education.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
I'm gonna take my mom out to the big race.
She grew up raising horses, and she grew up betting
on horses.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Sanity is the best, man, It's so much It is
so much fun.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I just wanted to do that. Is there intimidation factors
going on right now? Like like when you play basketball,
you like you go up and you do like a
three sixty windmill dunk, or you shoot from half court,
like you're trying to like gain some like mental type
of advantage over your opponents. Like I wonder what you
do with your horse.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, it's it's a little cold out, so you can't
get too uh, I can't get too crafty with that
because you don't want to like suffer an injury.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
And I'm not saying you're I mean, what what would
the what would the strategy be right now? Like there's
got to be a strategy right now, you know what
I mean? Like do I do I make him like
pop his muscles when he goes past like that one
horse that he knows he's going to have to really
really meet in that final race? Like what Like there's
gotta be some mental warfare going on out there on
(11:44):
that track.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, you're just you're trying to get blood flow right now,
aren't you? Are you trying to go?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
But even while you're getting that blood flow, you get
to see your opponent. I'm trying to get a like
I'm I'm gonna take my horse up to the one
that they think is really good, and I'm gonna like
bump horse or something like that, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like, yay, hey, we here, baby, we here? You feel that?
Did you feel that?
Speaker 6 (12:06):
You feel how we just bumped you right now? You
know you're gonna feel all that bumping tomorrow. Try to
come out on pole position on me, try to get
inside on me. I'm gonna bump you up, you know
what I mean. Like it gotta be some type of
mental warfare going on right preame warm ups? Uh, you know,
pregame warm ups is interesting. Like so guys used to
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do subtle things like there's like there used to be
this ungritten rule you don't cross the fifty yard line.
Fifty represents your your real estate. One side is the
other team, the other side is your your side. So
when I used to come out for warm ups, me
and Marcus Washington, we used to trot all the way
down to the other the team's other side, and then.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We would trot across the back of.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The end zone, right and and we're just trotting while
we're looking at them warm up, you know, and we're
looking at them like, you know, like I'm gonna f
you up, you know. And that was kind of like
that was our thing. Like we we did it in
pregame when we went outside to test our cleats and stuff.
We would walk on the side that that they would
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be on, which there was no really given side in pregame,
but it was really we was out there really the
like ice grilled dudes and and try to intimidate them
like with looks and feels like almost like broke out
into fights a few times.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I don't think that exists in horse racing though.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why not, because I mean, let's be honest here, it's
an animal running around in circles with the stuffed animal
on their backs.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
See if you're making it, if you're making it that
simple the point, if you don't think them horses know
they're competing against them other horses, you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I'm telling you. That's why.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
That's why rams buck, that's why bears fighting, that's why.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Lions take out other cubs. If it ain't their cut.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
They know about the competitive nature between one another that's
going to take place in the arena.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
What else would you describe what's riding the horses backshops.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I don't listen. I'm not here to I'm not here
to partakeing it. I love san Anita Race. I appreciate
what has happened.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
He said, he just said they're ridden by stuffed animals.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
He said, that's really what that is, really what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know, it was just, you know, I just can't
see them getting into some sort of a trash talking
fest with uh, you know, the other horses for some reason.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, I mean they don't talk like for starters, So
what are they gonna do?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Like they can fill vibrations and energy? Yeah, how about
them too. There's gotta be some pre game like like
posturing and games gamesmanship between the jockeys.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I mean I listen, like, right, you played Ga Joe's right, Yeah,
all right. It's not like they're doing anything on their own.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
I mean, but but like, like think about like Talladega Knights, Right,
you go into the little bar, you're in the bar,
you see you know, the good looking people around.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You walk in car drivers are full of pea and
those guys are from the south, these guys, why aren't
these guys you know, they're riding horses, They're they're going
for speed.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They got to need for speedy.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
First, your laugh, your last point. I'm just saying, man,
I just can't see it.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
For whatever, Why can't there be a Ricky Bobby of
of horse racing.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Why?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I don't know. I just I just I don't. I
don't buy what you're saying, Jonas. I think that is
way more competitive you.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
We'll ask our guests coming. Oh, that's right, that's not happening.
It is uhh, it is two.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
What what? Well? Apparently apparently we we.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Had to get a we had a I think they
heard our earlier segments.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I think we had a hair appointment that we couldn't
miss it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, here's what I do know. And for people listening
here around the country. Obviously we're in Santa A, Nita.
What do you know, Brady Quinn's in Austin, Texas. Wherever
you are listening to this show right now, you know
damn well.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well you know it's football.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
They know it's Friday. Come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, we're at the track.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
We're at the track. Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We're at the track. We're at the track. Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
We got some.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Horses and you're ready. They know it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
The horse football on the track.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The horses, they know they're coming over to the gate.
We got them coming over to the gate. They know
football football, do it. Do it. I got a horse
and I'm right right horse, ride the horse. Horse.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I got a horse and a right horse.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Alight. We got to do it right for the horses.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Let's do it right for the Yeah, Friday night.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Is a horse Friday.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Football Friday Friday, horses at the track with the horses
and Johnny's yeah the horse.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Horse here on two pros and a cup of Joe
uh Live. I'm Santa Anita Racetrack. As we get said
for the Breeders Cup. Coming out this weekend, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox of the Year. But coming up
next year from the Tirak dot com Studios, we've got
more information coming out on the latest scandal in the
(17:16):
world of football, and we'll give you the details on that.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh wow, but hey everybody, Yeah, this is Jonas Knox
and I'm here at the fortieth running, as you can
tell of the Breeders Cup, the fortieth running of this
Breeders Cup World Championships at Iconic sant Anita Park, and
I'll be coming to you live from the races today,
but there's going to be some epic international racing all
weekend long. And I gotta tell you, the Breeders' Cup
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is one of my favorite events every year. We were
in Keenland last year. It was awesome sant Anita. We
expect it to be the same. I've been here thousands
of times throughout the course of my life, maybe not
a thousand, but probably one hundred. Santa Anita is fantastic.
It is a great time for all and the world's
great are here at Santa Anita and you can.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Really feel it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
The horses are out, they're making their trek around the track,
they're trying to get in some practice runs here and
we're talking about the best horses, jockeys, trainers and owners
from all over the world battling it out for check
this out. Their share of thirty one million dollars in
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Speaker 2 (19:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you live from the Breeders Cup in Santa Anita. I mean, listen,
there's food being served, like we've got actual human life here,
and people riding horses around the track getting ready for
the Breeders Cup this weekend. So it feels like we're
(19:43):
starting to get a little bit of activity here, a
little bit of a blood flow, if you will. All right,
people starting to get excited about the whole event going
on coming up later on. We are going to have
our picks for the Breeders Cup. Brady Quinn claims to
have learned a couple of things last year.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I didn't learn anything.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
We probably probably one thing.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You and I. We were betting on the ponies a
little bit. We're having some fun on Friday, and I
think we won the first race and then I don't
think we want another one after that. But it was
okay because at least it made us feel good initially,
and then you know, from there it was all downhill.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
So it's always a good time. So we we've.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Got an update on the situation with Michigan and the
sign stealing scandal currently going on. According to ESPN, Big
ten coaches spent ninety minutes on a video call with
Commissioner Tony Pettiti and want him to take action. Now,
another source says he will have to act or he
(20:43):
will lose the coaches and the athletic directors.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
So they're getting pretty aggressive there, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Lose them where just their sec Where are they going
to go? Right? Where are they going to go? What
are they going to do if he doesn't do anything.
So there's a few issues with this.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
And this isn't like a Hey, I'm backing Michigan or
I'm against Michigan here, it's more about how the process
of punishment within college football has typically taking place.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It's typically done by the NCAA.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
The NCAA is currently investigating Michigan in a couple of ways.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Obviously there's the Jim Harbaughs stuff that's going on.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
There's also the Matt Weiss, the offensive coordinator stuff that
was actually an FBI investigation for computer crimes that's also
going on. So there's a couple of things that the
NCAA is looking into in regards to Michigan. The part
that's a little bit odd is all these coaches have known.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
This has gone on for years.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
There's even photos now dating back to Connor Stallion's made
on the sidelines in twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, before he
was technically quote unquote employed as an employee of the university.
So I'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole, but we,
like I guess it points out the fact that we
don't even know how long this has been going on.
People have tried to create this narrative like, oh, it's
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been going on since they've won the last Big two,
you know, last two Big ten championships.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
We don't even know that.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Now, the more photo service, the more things that are
out there, they're still trying to sort through all this.
And also we don't know who all counter Stallions was
involved with. We saw on the Central Michigan sidelines giving
signals to their staff. We're still waiting for an explanation
from Central Michigan about this. So one, we don't have
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all the facts, and yet we're rushing to judgment, which
I think is always a dangerous precedent to set. The
other thing is this has never been a commissioner's due
to your responsibility. People tend to use that Michigan Michigan
State fight that occurred in the tunnel there in an
arbor as a reason being for Petiti to get involved
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in all this.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
That was different.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Those young men's could have been charged criminally for assault.
This is entirely different. This is like it's cheating in gamesmanship.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
This isn't.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
This isn't assault on a young man or on human being.
So it's completely different. So please spare me trying to
use the Michigan Michigan State fight that took place in
the tunnel as an example for how the Big Ten
reacted to it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
That was where people could literally charge a crime.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Okay, this would be precedent setting in a manner of
which the commissioner will then get involved with these sorts
of violations or rules.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
That we'll be broken.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
We've never seen this before for something like this. I
don't know that Tony Pettiti wants to be the first.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
To do that.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
And on top of it, they don't have a robust
group that does these sorts of investigations. They would have
to consult or outsource to do this, which means it's
not gonna happen in a timely manner. The NCAAA does
have a group that invests gates these sorts of claims
or violations, so they're much better suited for it. So
I understand people out there who feel like they've been
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wrong Michigan is caught red handed that they want punishment,
but let's make sure we go about doing it the
right way.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
So then when your.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
School is the next that's potentially in trouble, you're not
going to be complaining about the punishment because of the
precedent that's set right now. And that's the sticky situation
that the Big Ten and Tony Pettiti find themselves in.
But as far as these coaches and athletic directors moaning
and complaining about the lack of action taken, give me
(24:38):
a break. You've know this has been going on for
years and now you're trying to finally mail this in it.
It seems extremely odd, and it seems like in Tony
Pettiti in his first year's commissioner, they're trying to force
him with leverage now and public perception that he needs
to act, he needs to do something, and I think
it could set a terrible precedent for the moving forward.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's the part that bothers me.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
In particular Michigan State and their athletic director coming out
and using the fight in the tunnel as some sort
of well, you know, it would be hypocritical if you didn't,
you know, throw the book at him now and do
it in a quick manner like he did for us
last year. And then the guy's got the balls to
come out and say you know, he mentions, you know,
the alterations this from the ESPN article He meant mentioned
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the alterations Michigan State needed to undergo in order to
prepare for its October twenty first game against Michigan after
receiving a call Wednesday of that game week about Michigan
having Michigan State signals. Okay, like are we really going
to play this game? Like if you're Michigan State, don't
you have other issues you need to worry about? Like
don't you have other things going on with your program?
(25:48):
Like why did you have Adolf Hitler show up on
the scoreboard before the game during a trivia round? Like
what about your former head coach who admitted to having
phone sex with somebody he brought in who was speaking
as a rape victim. Like there's all this stuff, yeah,
Like all this stuff going around in Michigan State's out
there wanting to throw stones and demanding action and all
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these other to your point, you knew about this, and
you delayed, and you waited, and you waited at least
a year based on the evidence of everything we have.
So if I'm petiti, I just be like, all right, well,
since you guys waited a year to let anybody here
know about it, We're going to wait a year to
put a punishment down tough balls.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
There's a lot of exposure to what's going on. I
think the one of the good points that you just
made is is that you're you're continuing to put this
whoever you are, You're continuing to let this play out
in public, public court, public domain, and you're going to
continue Some people are very cut and dry.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If you broke the rules, you broke the rules.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
And so once those rules are exposed and they continuously
are being peppered within the listening and paying attention audience,
you're clearly going to have two sides merge. You're going
to have one side that is pro Michigan and you're
going to have another side that's anti Michigan. So it
doesn't really become about the facts that that are surrounding
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what's going on. It doesn't really surround it being you know,
a just you know approach to what the outcome is.
It's it's us or Michigan, and that's kind of how
it kind of unfolds, and the more it plays out
in the media, it just what it really does is
it does put pressure on the Big Ten and it
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does put pressure on Michigan because while it may whatever
the level of rule breaking that it may measure up
to be, it's still a rule break and it's still
considered to be a rule break that gives the team
what would be considered an unnecessary advantage over their opponents.
So it's it's hard. It's hard to kind of comprehend
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it in a way where you would say, you know,
everybody does it, so keep it moving, moving on. It's
it's very clear that sure everybody does something that is
beyond the realm.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Of the rules.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
People break the rules all the time. And but but
again you're caught. And I think that that's the biggest
thing here. For one reason or another, it's Michigan, they're caught.
What happens now, you know, the pressure of what happens
now that push to to having you know, a disciplinary
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action take place.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, it ultimately to me comes down to you're looking.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
At a situation where they are not wanting to compete
with a contender. This is a team that is good
enough and could have been good enough to win the
national title. If you think about it, I said, Ohio
State wins that game against Georgia if Marvin Harrison Junior
doesn't go out, Well, if you think about it, Michigan
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spank Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So they gave it up to TCU.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
But nonetheless, they were good enough to be in the
game before the National Championship game, the National Championship round.
So I think a lot of this has to do
with fear. They don't want to compete with Michigan right now,
and so you try to even the play and field
by bringing other elements into play so that you don't
have a full powered Michigan. You lose Harball as the coach,
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You lose what Michigan has and why they're able to win.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And Michigan and Georgia are the co favorites to win
the national title right now, courtesy of our friends with
DraftKings plus two forty.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But would they be favored if they don't have Harball
as their coach.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Well, no, I think the punishment would probably be. I mean,
is it even possible, Brady, that they could tell them
this late in the game. You just can't be a
part of the college football playoff if a punishment got
handed down that quick like a bowl band Yeah, like immediately,
what does that think.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You would sacrifice the coach before you would do that again?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
It would be precedent setting in that way. I can't
recall a time where we've seen something for something like
this happened so quickly without having a formal investigation. And
I also understand the problem with that is if you wait,
it punishes next year's group of players and next year's
coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Jim Harbin's not even there, right.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Like all the violations during that run for USC didn't
impact Pete Carroll he moved on to Seattle Seahawks. It
impacted every coach and player for that next five to
six seven year period at USC afterwards. And so that's
the problem with a lot of the punisher of the NCAA.
It's always retroactive in the sense of it. It's they're
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looking backwards with then punishing forwards, which doesn't make any sense, right,
So it's hard to know where this is going to go.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
But I do think, you know, Tony.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Pettiti's got to be very careful about setting a press
in here moving forward, because I mean, look, you don't
have to take my opinion.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I've said this from the jump.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
This goes on at a lot of places, and so
I'm not going to use that as the reason to
justify what Michigan has done. Clearly they've overstepped their bounds.
But the problem is, if you're going to catch Michigan
for doing it, then you've really got to start investigating
a lot of other people who do it as well.
And then and that's the hard thing is once you
open up Pandora's box for Tony Pettiti and the Big ten,
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where does an investigation stop? Like at what point, Like
where do you start to draw their boundaries of what
they're going to enforce, what they're not, how they're going
to punish, how they're not how does that punishment differentiate
from the NCAA. Like this is almost like if you
look at the NFL, you know there was always the
player Conduct Policy that was written within the CBA, It
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just it wasn't enforced under Gen Upshaw. Once Roger Goodell
got in, it was like, yep, I'm going to enforce
this now. And then it opened up this Pandoras box
of Okay, well you're gonna enforce punishment then for domestic violence,
but what's your punishment? And then the NFL fumbled for
years trying to figure out like a standard punishment of
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what happens when a players are alleged to have conducted
domestic violence. It went to six games, but then it
was like, well is that enough?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Is it not?
Speaker 7 (32:20):
I mean, it created a lot of issues that I
don't know that the NFL and Roger Goodell foresaw happening
once they wanted to enforce the player conduct policy. So
there's always gonna be unintended consequences, and there's gonna be
you know, there's gonna be things that occur that you're
not prepared to be able to handle and deal with
the cusp of what Tony Pettiti and the Big Ten
(32:41):
may be, you know, trying to decide or decipher do
you want to get involved in this moving forward or
is this just something for the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Is there a gambling line on if harball comes back
next year?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I'm sure you can find it somewhere. Is there a
line on that.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, probably, I mean anyone could find it. Jonas Cold
find Yeah, I could definitely if there was.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
A line on if Harball returns as the head coach,
he ain't coming back, He's not coming back. Chance it's
a rat. Get no chance, it's a rat. Yeah, it's over.
And then what does that mean for Michigan. We'll figure
it out. I think people forget what Michigan was before
before Jake Carball got there.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Yeah, I'm on you right now. Elevate my man, Mike Hart,
damn right, the running back.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, hell yeah, number twenty, I believe I.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Remember a little bowling ball. He's like kind of like
the dude they have right now.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, he filled in for Harbor. He was suspended earlier
this year. So all right, So.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
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Speaker 6 (35:31):
I don't get the run to the heat though, I'm
running to the heat, yeah, moving like them horses on
that track and like like ten minutes.
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Speaker 1 (36:30):
Right, Lee, how are we doing with this? You go around,
you pick and see what we got here?
Speaker 5 (36:35):
All right?
Speaker 8 (36:35):
Let's uh, let's go ahead and start with I'm gonna
start with LeVar here.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Where are you going? I'm going with Saudi Crown. Baby.
I feel strong about him. He's a three year old guy.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
He's an up and coming three year old and you
know what, he's two knows this shy of being unbeaten
this year. I also like the fact that he's done
little wrong today. This is the breakdown in pro a
foul of him. Now, I went through all of them.
I checked him out. Yeah, I feel confident that that
he's going to give me, give me the victory. So
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I'm going with Saudi Crown.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Next up, we're gonna hear from Iowa Sam, because I
think I know where he's going with this.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
I'm taking Clapton.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Hi, Sam, Hi, guys Hill, I'll take that Clapton.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Why are you taking Clapton, Sam? Because you like Eric Clapton. Yeah,
all right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Next up, Brady, who do you got?
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Oh, I'm gonna be taking Arabian Night and why the
simple answer?
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Who's this trader?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Bobby, Bob Bafford.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah. So if you know if any horse is gonna
piss hot.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, look for a Laddin to be going down
the homes.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Look at the line and he's pulling. He's pulling away
in eray a nice Wednesdays come.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
I'll take That's what I was leaning towards a bright
future because I like John Velaskaz as the as the jockey.
But actually, last second, switch over to Ushbutzsorro from Japan.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Four to one.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
I was reading up on him. He's gotten a lot
better after switching from grass to dirt. Okay, struggles a little.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Bit in the heat, but I'm going with it.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
He's got four to one odds, he's racing, he's the
eighth horse, and that's my pick.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
And lastly, real quick, hold on, Yeah, so you picked
because your jockey.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I mean Jonas. Does the jockey factor in at all
to your decision?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Absolutely not no, Why is that you?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I mean he doesn't respect him?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And then you can't like, look if you bring over,
if you want to have a glass of wine, you
don't put in a shot glass, you know what I mean? Like,
you need something dependable, you need something that's going to
stand out, and a jockey's not standing out anywhere.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Oh wow, I'm sorry. Just the way this goes home.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
By the way, I'm gonna go ahead and take White
a Barrio at four to one, and I could sit
here and wax poetic and say, well, you know, he
won the Holy Bowl and the Florida Derby and the
opening months of twenty twenty two. I could do all
that stuff. I just like the name, and it sounds
like something that would have been my nickname in junior high.
So I'm gonna go white a barrio to win the
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Breeders Cup here at sant Anita.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, probably that seems like something it could be just
but it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Man.
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This is a pros What a great weekend in sports.
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You know pros.
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We got a ton going on there. You go to
pros right, damn right.
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Oh yeah, oh hell yeah, baby, they're out. Oh yeah,
they are moving around.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Can you hear that?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
They're warming it up?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Are they're warming up?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Oh yeah, believe it. They are out about. We have
got movement here.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
They came out like ten traffic.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
See little wake up call last hour, told him get
your ass up.
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Speaker 6 (01:37):
So we're sitting here thinking just before you go, like
when you're warming up and you're going to race, or
you're going to do something athletically, right, Yeah, you got
to assume that the climate is going to be dramatically
different from what they're doing right now to when they run. Yeah,
I wonder how much that plays apart, like your warming
(02:00):
up and cold, but you're probably gonna end up running
in hot Like it's probably gonna be probably like seventy
eighty by the.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Time they're running in the eighties, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
So if they're if it's in the eighties, but they're
they're warming up and and it's cold. For one, it's
probably easier on their bodies because they're not they're not
getting too hot. You can run in this. But I
just wonder how they adjust to that, Like his body's
adapting right now.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But it's cold. You know.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Isn't that similar to like when you played for Washington
when you'd go play like somewhere down south.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah, but if you think about it, right, like you
come out and warm up and warm ups and it's
cold while you're doing your like hole walk around, check
out the surface, figure out what you're gonna do, You
do your stretching, you do your little walk, check out
saf what's up everybody?
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
If it's cold, I'm I'm a.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
I'm a I'm adapting and adjusting what my my gear
is or what I'm doing. Like, am I gonna put
you know, vaciline on my arms and my leg versus
not put vasilin on it? Am I gonna wear long
sleeves and you know, stretch pants versus no stretch pants. Like,
there's a lot, at least for me, there was a
lot that went into you know, my pregame, my pregame
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ritual leading up to the game. So if I came
out and I was warming up in this, I'm dressing warm.
But if I came out and it's like, what forty
degrees warmer, thirty five degrees warmer than what it was,
then now I gotta try to strip and that's probably
I gotta wait till halftime, but I gotta go through
the first half of the game based off of it
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being thirty thirty five degrees warmer than what it was
when I was warming up. Even if they told you,
they told you the weather, what's that?
Speaker 5 (03:45):
But you stripped before. I mean, you've dealt with that.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
I have no problem stripping, man, like to cool down
and make sure that I don't have too much on
and so I don't overheat while I'm performing. You know,
I'm a performer, So you know, if I got to
strip down, know to nothing to make sure that I'm
putting it all out there, you know, for everybody to enjoy,
I'm That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, what's the commitment, you know which separates you from
everybody else.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It is the commitment to the performance.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Man.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
That's I mean, you gotta deliver the results because that's
what your fans pay to come to see the way.
Hell's that muffin? Oh it's been gone.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
It was gone hour one, it was gone.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
You smoke that blueberry?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Oh? Tore it up? What is this one right here?
What does that seem to be like?
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Man?
Speaker 6 (04:32):
Lee eats like a horse, you know, I mean, he
tore that muffin up. But I ain't gonna lie. There's
some good muffins.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Tear it down, horse off a haystack.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Just just He's got a big appetite. It's like a horse.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Does your mouth go air to air when you're eating?
You know, like that, like that kind of thing, like
you know.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
You like think about it. Lee's got a lot of
qualities like a horse does. I mean he also he
uses maiden tail. It's a horse shampoo, right tail, the
long main long hair.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Does the cup.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah yeah, trots pass it out pack in the morning.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Although I got to be honest with you, I mean
a four to fifty five am wake up call seems
pretty late for a horse. I'm not betting on any
of these guys that are running. If we could get
some names over here.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
He's got hit lights on.
Speaker 8 (05:24):
These are actually the horses for the classic None of
the horses that are out right now are going to
be racing today.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
These are all the.
Speaker 8 (05:29):
Horses racing tomorrow in the breeders. Ones with the numbers
are the classic.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay, well I'm not bett.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well I got to I guess you'll have the Let's go,
let's go drag one of those jockeys off.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Let me test ride one of those things and see
what we got.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
I mean, there were tweets that were coming in Will
Jones be seen riding a horse?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So there you go, Dahn.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
She ain't here yet, so we'll see what we got.
It is two pros and a cup of joe. By
the way, we are live.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
That's where you're going to go with it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
We are live from sand high out.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We're horses, don't you So.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
We're live from Sanity to racetrack here in beautiful Arcadia, California.
The horses are out for the Classic. As lead of
Laughter just mentioned, Brady Quinn's in Austin, Texas is he's
got the big new boys there and they're big coming
up tomorrow at noon Eastern time.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Obviously, is it cold.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Where you're at?
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Q It was a lot cooler than I thought it
was gonna be I got it last night. It was
probably in like the like fifty I think maybe right now, Yeah,
I hit a little different. Oh, it hits different now.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Once you get that warm blood in you, everybody's like
you're from Pittsburgh, you can't get cold. Hey, you almost
hit the dump button on that one, you know what
I mean? When do we pick at these horses?
Speaker 5 (06:42):
By the way?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Soon bottom of the hour. So okay, so there's about
thirty after.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I'm excited for this because that I did learn some
things last year. I learned some things last year.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
But did you learn some things because I didn't.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Yeah, I'll wait, I'll wait till then to tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
But yeah, okay, So we've got a truck pulling up here.
What what truck is this? What do we got here?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Is he dropping the food off?
Speaker 6 (07:06):
Pulling some sweet? Do you know the cool thing? Like
you gotta you probably had like a four a m.
Wake up call maybe a little earlier to do your
prep for getting on the horse. Like I wonder, like
do they have game plan meetings like like in other sports,
like in football, Like you go watch the film, here's how.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Jonas has game plan meetings. Well that's true.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean like you mean they show the
horse like the All twenty two's, Yeah, say, hey, this
is where you went wrong here, this is the idea.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
You know, look at this curve.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
There's a little bit more dirt here than there is there. Like,
you know, this horse has a stronger kick than that horse,
so you got to be this many lengths away from
that horse when you get to this point in the track, Like,
and then they come out here and they warm them up.
They and I wonder, like what do they say to
the horses? Like, they gotta be talking to them horses, right,
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Some horses want to be talked to. They want to
know they're loved and cared about. What are you saying
to the horse while you're on that horse out there warm?
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Which should we go to our resident horse whisper or
horse talker expert lead a lap I me, he does
talk to it?
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Al paka lee? What what? What?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
What's the conversation patterns between a man and a horse
or or an alpaca?
Speaker 8 (08:21):
You know, you just gotta just calm them down, make
sure they're ready to go, make sure they're in their headspace.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Get give them the music. There's the music that how
do you do that?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
How do you call them?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So you play music for them while you're atting?
Speaker 8 (08:34):
You give them a little Sideye, first you gotta walk
by stride once or twice, you know, approach.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
That's what I do with Al.
Speaker 8 (08:41):
I just I don't just walk straight up to Al.
You know what I'm saying, like, let him know you're there.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I gotta ask.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
This is called the breeders cup, meaning if you win,
you get you know, you're getting paid for for the
breeding rights of of what's going on. And my whole
thing is don't they have girl feet male horses in
this too? Like does breeders cut matter in terms of
if you're right, if you're that? Because if if if,
what what do you get? Like what what are the
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guys called mayors and or stallions or what what are
they called? What are they called stallion colts? Like Connor stallion,
Connor stallion? Though suspended with pay all I need to know.
I'm just curious. Like if I'm the guy and I'm
riding the guy, I'm like, look, man, if we win this,
I get I get paid, and you get that you
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you get good hay you and you get a.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Good time, like over and over and over again.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Like that horse gets a bouquet of roses and they're
supposed to be happy with that.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Goes so much.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Horses get screwed over worse than athletes by the n
c a A, not the ones that wint better than
not the ones that win.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Bro, I'm telling you no way.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Yeah, they treat them horses better than they treat people.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Man, you know how much you know how much.
Speaker 7 (10:00):
That horse, that horse, as soon as he wins, walks
in that same living room that that league got invited.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Into into a whole different industry, whole.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
New industry, and and and not to mention, if somebody
wants to change that horse's environment, they got to pay
in the seven figures, eight figures to be able to
get that horse and change real estate.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
You better win this god dang race. Hey listen, bro,
you need to win back. Yeah, let's go back to Lee.
You gotta side at it.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You got it.
Speaker 7 (10:35):
You had to walk by it two or three times.
You said, just to let them know you're there.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, let him know you're there.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
Yeah, you know, I don't know. I'm gonna get a
I'm gonna get a big education.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (10:46):
I'm gonna take my mom out to the big race.
She grew up raising horses, and she grew up betting
on horses.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Sanity is the best, man, It's so much It is
so much fun.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I just wanted to do that. Is there intimidation factors
going on right now? Like like when you play basketball,
you like you go up and you do like a
three sixty windmill dunk, or you shoot from half court,
like you're trying to like gain some like mental type
of advantage over your opponents. Like I wonder what you
do with your horse.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, it's it's a little cold out, so you can't
get too uh, I can't get too crafty with that
because you don't want to like suffer an injury.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
And I'm not saying you're I mean, what what would
the what would the strategy be right now? Like there's
got to be a strategy right now, you know what
I mean? Like do I do I make him like
pop his muscles when he goes past like that one
horse that he knows he's going to have to really
really meet in that final race? Like what Like there's
gotta be some mental warfare going on out there on
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that track.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Well, you're just you're trying to get blood flow right now,
aren't you? Are you trying to go?
Speaker 6 (11:49):
But even while you're getting that blood flow, you get
to see your opponent. I'm trying to get a like
I'm I'm gonna take my horse up to the one
that they think is really good, and I'm gonna like
bump horse or something like that, you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Like, yay, hey, we here, baby, we here? You feel that?
Did you feel that?
Speaker 6 (12:06):
You feel how we just bumped you right now? You
know you're gonna feel all that bumping tomorrow. Try to
come out on pole position on me, try to get
inside on me. I'm gonna bump you up, you know
what I mean. Like it gotta be some type of
mental warfare going on right preame warm ups? Uh, you know,
pregame warm ups is interesting. Like so guys used to
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do subtle things like there's like there used to be
this ungritten rule you don't cross the fifty yard line.
Fifty represents your your real estate. One side is the
other team, the other side is your your side. So
when I used to come out for warm ups, me
and Marcus Washington, we used to trot all the way
down to the other the team's other side, and then.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We would trot across the back of.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
The end zone, right and and we're just trotting while
we're looking at them warm up, you know, and we're
looking at them like, you know, like I'm gonna f
you up, you know. And that was kind of like
that was our thing. Like we we did it in
pregame when we went outside to test our cleats and stuff.
We would walk on the side that that they would
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be on, which there was no really given side in pregame,
but it was really we was out there really the
like ice grilled dudes and and try to intimidate them
like with looks and feels like almost like broke out
into fights a few times.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
I don't think that exists in horse racing though.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Why not, because I mean, let's be honest here, it's
an animal running around in circles with the stuffed animal
on their backs.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
See if you're making it, if you're making it that
simple the point, if you don't think them horses know
they're competing against them other horses, you're crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I'm telling you. That's why.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
That's why rams buck, that's why bears fighting, that's why.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Lions take out other cubs. If it ain't their cut.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
They know about the competitive nature between one another that's
going to take place in the arena.
Speaker 7 (13:56):
What else would you describe what's riding the horses backshops.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I don't listen. I'm not here to I'm not here
to partakeing it. I love san Anita Race. I appreciate
what has happened.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
He said, he just said they're ridden by stuffed animals.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
He said, that's really what that is, really what he's saying.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
You know, it was just, you know, I just can't
see them getting into some sort of a trash talking
fest with uh, you know, the other horses for some reason.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Well, I mean they don't talk like for starters, So
what are they gonna do?
Speaker 6 (14:28):
Like they can fill vibrations and energy? Yeah, how about
them too. There's gotta be some pre game like like
posturing and games gamesmanship between the jockeys.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I mean I listen, like, right, you played Ga Joe's right, Yeah,
all right. It's not like they're doing anything on their own.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
I mean, but but like, like think about like Talladega Knights, Right,
you go into the little bar, you're in the bar,
you see you know, the good looking people around.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You walk in car drivers are full of pea and
those guys are from the south, these guys, why aren't
these guys you know, they're riding horses, They're they're going
for speed.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
They got to need for speedy.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
First, your laugh, your last point. I'm just saying, man,
I just can't see it.
Speaker 6 (15:14):
For whatever, Why can't there be a Ricky Bobby of
of horse racing.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Why?
Speaker 6 (15:19):
I don't know. I just I just I don't. I
don't buy what you're saying, Jonas. I think that is
way more competitive you.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
We'll ask our guests coming. Oh, that's right, that's not happening.
It is uhh, it is two.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
What what? Well? Apparently apparently we we.
Speaker 8 (15:39):
Had to get a we had a I think they
heard our earlier segments.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I think we had a hair appointment that we couldn't
miss it.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Well, here's what I do know. And for people listening
here around the country. Obviously we're in Santa A, Nita.
What do you know, Brady Quinn's in Austin, Texas. Wherever
you are listening to this show right now, you know
damn well.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well you know it's football.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
They know it's Friday. Come on, come on, come on.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Yeah, we're at the track.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
We're at the track. Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We're at the track. We're at the track. Let's do it.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
We got some.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Horses and you're ready. They know it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
The horse football on the track.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The horses, they know they're coming over to the gate.
We got them coming over to the gate. They know
football football, do it. Do it. I got a horse
and I'm right right horse, ride the horse. Horse.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I got a horse and a right horse.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Alight. We got to do it right for the horses.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Let's do it right for the Yeah, Friday night.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Is a horse Friday.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Football Friday Friday, horses at the track with the horses
and Johnny's yeah the horse.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Horse here on two pros and a cup of Joe
uh Live. I'm Santa Anita Racetrack. As we get said
for the Breeders Cup. Coming out this weekend, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox of the Year. But coming up
next year from the Tirak dot com Studios, we've got
more information coming out on the latest scandal in the
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world of football, and we'll give you the details on that.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
That's next.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Oh wow, but hey everybody, Yeah, this is Jonas Knox
and I'm here at the fortieth running, as you can
tell of the Breeders Cup, the fortieth running of this
Breeders Cup World Championships at Iconic sant Anita Park, and
I'll be coming to you live from the races today,
but there's going to be some epic international racing all
weekend long. And I gotta tell you, the Breeders' Cup
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is one of my favorite events every year. We were
in Keenland last year. It was awesome sant Anita. We
expect it to be the same. I've been here thousands
of times throughout the course of my life, maybe not
a thousand, but probably one hundred. Santa Anita is fantastic.
It is a great time for all and the world's
great are here at Santa Anita and you can.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Really feel it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
The horses are out, they're making their trek around the track,
they're trying to get in some practice runs here and
we're talking about the best horses, jockeys, trainers and owners
from all over the world battling it out for check
this out. Their share of thirty one million dollars in
purses and awards stakes are high, to say the least
and it really creates an electric atmosphere. And this year
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Speaker 2 (19:07):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you live from the Breeders Cup in Santa Anita. I mean, listen,
there's food being served, like we've got actual human life here,
and people riding horses around the track getting ready for
the Breeders Cup this weekend. So it feels like we're
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starting to get a little bit of activity here, a
little bit of a blood flow, if you will. All right,
people starting to get excited about the whole event going
on coming up later on. We are going to have
our picks for the Breeders Cup. Brady Quinn claims to
have learned a couple of things last year.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
I didn't learn anything.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
We probably probably one thing.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
You and I. We were betting on the ponies a
little bit. We're having some fun on Friday, and I
think we won the first race and then I don't
think we want another one after that. But it was
okay because at least it made us feel good initially,
and then you know, from there it was all downhill.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
So it's always a good time. So we we've.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Got an update on the situation with Michigan and the
sign stealing scandal currently going on. According to ESPN, Big
ten coaches spent ninety minutes on a video call with
Commissioner Tony Pettiti and want him to take action. Now,
another source says he will have to act or he
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will lose the coaches and the athletic directors.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
So they're getting pretty aggressive there, Brady Quinn.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Lose them where just their sec Where are they going
to go? Right? Where are they going to go? What
are they going to do if he doesn't do anything.
So there's a few issues with this.
Speaker 7 (21:03):
And this isn't like a Hey, I'm backing Michigan or
I'm against Michigan here, it's more about how the process
of punishment within college football has typically taking place.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
It's typically done by the NCAA.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
The NCAA is currently investigating Michigan in a couple of ways.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Obviously there's the Jim Harbaughs stuff that's going on.
Speaker 7 (21:25):
There's also the Matt Weiss, the offensive coordinator stuff that
was actually an FBI investigation for computer crimes that's also
going on. So there's a couple of things that the
NCAA is looking into in regards to Michigan. The part
that's a little bit odd is all these coaches have known.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
This has gone on for years.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
There's even photos now dating back to Connor Stallion's made
on the sidelines in twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen, before he
was technically quote unquote employed as an employee of the university.
So I'm not gonna go down that rabbit hole, but we,
like I guess it points out the fact that we
don't even know how long this has been going on.
People have tried to create this narrative like, oh, it's
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been going on since they've won the last Big two,
you know, last two Big ten championships.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
We don't even know that.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Now, the more photo service, the more things that are
out there, they're still trying to sort through all this.
And also we don't know who all counter Stallions was
involved with. We saw on the Central Michigan sidelines giving
signals to their staff. We're still waiting for an explanation
from Central Michigan about this. So one, we don't have
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all the facts, and yet we're rushing to judgment, which
I think is always a dangerous precedent to set. The
other thing is this has never been a commissioner's due
to your responsibility. People tend to use that Michigan Michigan
State fight that occurred in the tunnel there in an
arbor as a reason being for Petiti to get involved
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in all this.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
That was different.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Those young men's could have been charged criminally for assault.
This is entirely different. This is like it's cheating in gamesmanship.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
This isn't.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
This isn't assault on a young man or on human being.
So it's completely different. So please spare me trying to
use the Michigan Michigan State fight that took place in
the tunnel as an example for how the Big Ten
reacted to it.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
That was where people could literally charge a crime.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
Okay, this would be precedent setting in a manner of
which the commissioner will then get involved with these sorts
of violations or rules.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
That we'll be broken.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
We've never seen this before for something like this. I
don't know that Tony Pettiti wants to be the first.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
To do that.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
And on top of it, they don't have a robust
group that does these sorts of investigations. They would have
to consult or outsource to do this, which means it's
not gonna happen in a timely manner. The NCAAA does
have a group that invests gates these sorts of claims
or violations, so they're much better suited for it. So
I understand people out there who feel like they've been
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wrong Michigan is caught red handed that they want punishment,
but let's make sure we go about doing it the
right way.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
So then when your.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
School is the next that's potentially in trouble, you're not
going to be complaining about the punishment because of the
precedent that's set right now. And that's the sticky situation
that the Big Ten and Tony Pettiti find themselves in.
But as far as these coaches and athletic directors moaning
and complaining about the lack of action taken, give me
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a break. You've know this has been going on for
years and now you're trying to finally mail this in it.
It seems extremely odd, and it seems like in Tony
Pettiti in his first year's commissioner, they're trying to force
him with leverage now and public perception that he needs
to act, he needs to do something, and I think
it could set a terrible precedent for the moving forward.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's the part that bothers me.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
In particular Michigan State and their athletic director coming out
and using the fight in the tunnel as some sort
of well, you know, it would be hypocritical if you didn't,
you know, throw the book at him now and do
it in a quick manner like he did for us
last year. And then the guy's got the balls to
come out and say you know, he mentions, you know,
the alterations this from the ESPN article He meant mentioned
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the alterations Michigan State needed to undergo in order to
prepare for its October twenty first game against Michigan after
receiving a call Wednesday of that game week about Michigan
having Michigan State signals. Okay, like are we really going
to play this game? Like if you're Michigan State, don't
you have other issues you need to worry about? Like
don't you have other things going on with your program?
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Like why did you have Adolf Hitler show up on
the scoreboard before the game during a trivia round? Like
what about your former head coach who admitted to having
phone sex with somebody he brought in who was speaking
as a rape victim. Like there's all this stuff, yeah,
Like all this stuff going around in Michigan State's out
there wanting to throw stones and demanding action and all
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these other to your point, you knew about this, and
you delayed, and you waited, and you waited at least
a year based on the evidence of everything we have.
So if I'm petiti, I just be like, all right, well,
since you guys waited a year to let anybody here
know about it, We're going to wait a year to
put a punishment down tough balls.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
There's a lot of exposure to what's going on. I
think the one of the good points that you just
made is is that you're you're continuing to put this
whoever you are, You're continuing to let this play out
in public, public court, public domain, and you're going to
continue Some people are very cut and dry.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
If you broke the rules, you broke the rules.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
And so once those rules are exposed and they continuously
are being peppered within the listening and paying attention audience,
you're clearly going to have two sides merge. You're going
to have one side that is pro Michigan and you're
going to have another side that's anti Michigan. So it
doesn't really become about the facts that that are surrounding
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what's going on. It doesn't really surround it being you know,
a just you know approach to what the outcome is.
It's it's us or Michigan, and that's kind of how
it kind of unfolds, and the more it plays out
in the media, it just what it really does is
it does put pressure on the Big Ten and it
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does put pressure on Michigan because while it may whatever
the level of rule breaking that it may measure up
to be, it's still a rule break and it's still
considered to be a rule break that gives the team
what would be considered an unnecessary advantage over their opponents.
So it's it's hard. It's hard to kind of comprehend
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it in a way where you would say, you know,
everybody does it, so keep it moving, moving on. It's
it's very clear that sure everybody does something that is
beyond the realm.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Of the rules.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
People break the rules all the time. And but but
again you're caught. And I think that that's the biggest
thing here. For one reason or another, it's Michigan, they're caught.
What happens now, you know, the pressure of what happens
now that push to to having you know, a disciplinary
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action take place.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I mean, it ultimately to me comes down to you're looking.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
At a situation where they are not wanting to compete
with a contender. This is a team that is good
enough and could have been good enough to win the
national title. If you think about it, I said, Ohio
State wins that game against Georgia if Marvin Harrison Junior
doesn't go out, Well, if you think about it, Michigan
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spank Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
So they gave it up to TCU.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
But nonetheless, they were good enough to be in the
game before the National Championship game, the National Championship round.
So I think a lot of this has to do
with fear. They don't want to compete with Michigan right now,
and so you try to even the play and field
by bringing other elements into play so that you don't
have a full powered Michigan. You lose Harball as the coach,
(29:27):
You lose what Michigan has and why they're able to win.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
And Michigan and Georgia are the co favorites to win
the national title right now, courtesy of our friends with
DraftKings plus two forty.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
But would they be favored if they don't have Harball
as their coach.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Well, no, I think the punishment would probably be. I mean,
is it even possible, Brady, that they could tell them
this late in the game. You just can't be a
part of the college football playoff if a punishment got
handed down that quick like a bowl band Yeah, like immediately,
what does that think.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
You would sacrifice the coach before you would do that again?
Speaker 7 (30:03):
It would be precedent setting in that way. I can't
recall a time where we've seen something for something like
this happened so quickly without having a formal investigation. And
I also understand the problem with that is if you wait,
it punishes next year's group of players and next year's
coaching staff.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Jim Harbin's not even there, right.
Speaker 7 (30:23):
Like all the violations during that run for USC didn't
impact Pete Carroll he moved on to Seattle Seahawks. It
impacted every coach and player for that next five to
six seven year period at USC afterwards. And so that's
the problem with a lot of the punisher of the NCAA.
It's always retroactive in the sense of it. It's they're
(30:44):
looking backwards with then punishing forwards, which doesn't make any sense, right,
So it's hard to know where this is going to go.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
But I do think, you know, Tony.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Pettiti's got to be very careful about setting a press
in here moving forward, because I mean, look, you don't
have to take my opinion.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I've said this from the jump.
Speaker 7 (31:05):
This goes on at a lot of places, and so
I'm not going to use that as the reason to
justify what Michigan has done. Clearly they've overstepped their bounds.
But the problem is, if you're going to catch Michigan
for doing it, then you've really got to start investigating
a lot of other people who do it as well.
And then and that's the hard thing is once you
open up Pandora's box for Tony Pettiti and the Big ten,
(31:28):
where does an investigation stop? Like at what point, Like
where do you start to draw their boundaries of what
they're going to enforce, what they're not, how they're going
to punish, how they're not how does that punishment differentiate
from the NCAA. Like this is almost like if you
look at the NFL, you know there was always the
player Conduct Policy that was written within the CBA, It
(31:50):
just it wasn't enforced under Gen Upshaw. Once Roger Goodell
got in, it was like, yep, I'm going to enforce
this now. And then it opened up this Pandoras box
of Okay, well you're gonna enforce punishment then for domestic violence,
but what's your punishment? And then the NFL fumbled for
years trying to figure out like a standard punishment of
(32:11):
what happens when a players are alleged to have conducted
domestic violence. It went to six games, but then it
was like, well is that enough?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Is it not?
Speaker 7 (32:20):
I mean, it created a lot of issues that I
don't know that the NFL and Roger Goodell foresaw happening
once they wanted to enforce the player conduct policy. So
there's always gonna be unintended consequences, and there's gonna be
you know, there's gonna be things that occur that you're
not prepared to be able to handle and deal with
the cusp of what Tony Pettiti and the Big Ten
(32:41):
may be, you know, trying to decide or decipher do
you want to get involved in this moving forward or
is this just something for the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Is there a gambling line on if harball comes back
next year?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
I'm sure you can find it somewhere. Is there a
line on that.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, probably, I mean anyone could find it. Jonas Cold
find Yeah, I could definitely if there was.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
A line on if Harball returns as the head coach,
he ain't coming back, He's not coming back. Chance it's
a rat. Get no chance, it's a rat. Yeah, it's over.
And then what does that mean for Michigan. We'll figure
it out. I think people forget what Michigan was before
before Jake Carball got there.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Yeah, I'm on you right now. Elevate my man, Mike Hart,
damn right, the running back.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Yeah, hell yeah, number twenty, I believe I.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Remember a little bowling ball. He's like kind of like
the dude they have right now.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, he filled in for Harbor. He was suspended earlier
this year. So all right, So.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Coming up next here, we are going to make our
Breeders Cup picks, and we're going to do it here
live from the Breeders Cup in Santa Nita at Santa
Anita Racetrack, And it's yours here to close up shop
on a football Friday here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
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Speaker 4 (35:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Fox Sports Radio LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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That'll be posted up shortly after we go off the air,
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in Austin, Texas and Horses on the Boys, I mean,
(35:23):
hell yeah, by the way, thanks to Mike, our engineer,
who's been hanging out with us the whole time, listening
to aigans and uh.
Speaker 6 (35:31):
I don't get the run to the heat though, I'm
running to the heat, yeah, moving like them horses on
that track and like like ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
I mean, the good news is, Mike, it is going
to be in like the eighties today, so you do
have something to look forward to if you missed any
of this show, you can check out that podcast. We're
going to be back on the air coming up on Monday,
six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. So we'll look
back on a busy weekend in the NFL and in
college football, and as we get set to make our
picks and the Breeders Cup, we do want to let
(36:01):
you know that we are in that final stretch to
get tickets to horse racing's biggest moment of the year.
The world's best are headed here to Santa Anita for
the Breeders' Cup World Championships. That's today November three and
tomorrow November fourth. The countdown begins.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Now. Get tickets today at Breeders Cup dot com. Let's go.
Let's start making some pins, all.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Right, Lee, how are we doing with this? You go around,
you pick and see what we got here?
Speaker 5 (36:35):
All right?
Speaker 8 (36:35):
Let's uh, let's go ahead and start with I'm gonna
start with LeVar here.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Where are you going? I'm going with Saudi Crown. Baby.
I feel strong about him. He's a three year old guy.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
He's an up and coming three year old and you
know what, he's two knows this shy of being unbeaten
this year. I also like the fact that he's done
little wrong today. This is the breakdown in pro a
foul of him. Now, I went through all of them.
I checked him out. Yeah, I feel confident that that
he's going to give me, give me the victory. So
(37:08):
I'm going with Saudi Crown.
Speaker 8 (37:11):
Next up, we're gonna hear from Iowa Sam, because I
think I know where he's going with this.
Speaker 10 (37:15):
I'm taking Clapton.
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Hi, Sam, Hi, guys Hill, I'll take that Clapton.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Why are you taking Clapton, Sam? Because you like Eric Clapton. Yeah,
all right, let's go.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Next up, Brady, who do you got?
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Oh, I'm gonna be taking Arabian Night and why the
simple answer?
Speaker 5 (37:37):
Who's this trader?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Bobby, Bob Bafford.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Yeah. So if you know if any horse is gonna
piss hot.
Speaker 7 (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, look for a Laddin to be going down
the homes.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Look at the line and he's pulling. He's pulling away
in eray a nice Wednesdays come.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
I'll take That's what I was leaning towards a bright
future because I like John Velaskaz as the as the jockey.
But actually, last second, switch over to Ushbutzsorro from Japan.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Four to one.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
I was reading up on him. He's gotten a lot
better after switching from grass to dirt. Okay, struggles a little.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Bit in the heat, but I'm going with it.
Speaker 8 (38:19):
He's got four to one odds, he's racing, he's the
eighth horse, and that's my pick.
Speaker 7 (38:24):
And lastly, real quick, hold on, Yeah, so you picked
because your jockey.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
I mean Jonas. Does the jockey factor in at all
to your decision?
Speaker 2 (38:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Absolutely not no, Why is that you?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I mean he doesn't respect him?
Speaker 1 (38:37):
And then you can't like, look if you bring over,
if you want to have a glass of wine, you
don't put in a shot glass, you know what I mean? Like,
you need something dependable, you need something that's going to
stand out, and a jockey's not standing out anywhere.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Oh wow, I'm sorry. Just the way this goes home.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
By the way, I'm gonna go ahead and take White
a Barrio at four to one, and I could sit
here and wax poetic and say, well, you know, he
won the Holy Bowl and the Florida Derby and the
opening months of twenty twenty two. I could do all
that stuff. I just like the name, and it sounds
like something that would have been my nickname in junior high.
So I'm gonna go white a barrio to win the
(39:12):
Breeders Cup here at sant Anita.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yeah, probably that seems like something it could be just
but it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
This is a pros What a great weekend in sports.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
You know pros.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
We got a ton going on there. You go to
pros right, damn right.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And again Breeders Cup dot Com. We're in the final stretch.
Get your tickets, get out here, make it a part
of your weekend. Santa Anita is fantastic. We're having a
blast here. Who doesn't like the Breeders Cup World Championships
so much fun. So, by the way, thank you to
Deb and Rebecca who not only hung out with us
(39:55):
the entire time, but they also went they got coffee,
they got nuffins, and again, cannot thank Mike enough for
his participation in helping us out here. We would have
sounded like crap with get out here to Santa Anito.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh my way,
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