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November 7, 2023 39 mins

Chargers beat the Jets on MNF after Tom Telesco apologized to the DB’s for bringing in J.C. Jackson. The guys root on Kyler Murray returning from his torn ACL. Plus, the daily edition of “You In or Out?”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So it is our three of this program. It's been
a wild one thus far. You know, just hoping nobody
here takes us to the red light district again. You know,
just want to have a clean, professional broadcast to close
up a Tuesday morning here on the show. That's what

(01:53):
we're hoping here on this show. A much unlike the
clean performance of the New York Jets offensive line last night,
as they could not protect Zach Wilson and thus the
Chargers defense. It was a feeding frenzy and it did
not look all that good for the New York Jets.
So here are the Chargers who it wasn't like justin
Herbert lit up the Jets defense. He struggled. The Jets

(02:16):
defense was all over the place. But the Chargers do
get it done, and now they become an interesting team
to kind of pay attention to in the AFC because
they've got the deal. Like all the talents there, like
you look at them and you go, man, it's there.
It just feels like they find themselves in these spots
to where they'll play a game like that, and much

(02:36):
like the Cowboys, they'll come back and they'll be disappointing
in the very next one. It just feels like that's
where we're at when it comes to the LA Chargers.
Although you look at Kansas City and Kansas City seems
like they've got something that's a little bit of a
miss there on offense, and so I don't know if
this opens up a window for the Chargers potentially to
make a run of that division. But the LA Chargers

(02:57):
are now back to five hundred and looking to try
and make some ground on the wild card spots in
the AFC and maybe they can make some noise in
the postseason. You guys buying in on them being a
threat in the AFC, they're.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
A threat because I think we know how talented that
roster is. It's just whether or not they can put
it together and do it consistently. And there's questions about
Brandon Staley and you know, his ability to manage a
game as a head coach. And we've gotten to the
point now with the world of analytics where seeing a
lot of coaches go forward on fourth downs depending on

(03:29):
the situation and depending on where we're at in the game.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
And I think as we get a greater sample.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Size, sometimes we're looking at it saying, well, maybe they
should just take the points, you know, take the three
points instead of going for it. There's not many head coaches,
I'll put it this way, and this is why I'm
making a play for like the human element of analytics
that doesn't factor it in when you go for it
on fourth down in your own territory and don't get

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it okay, instead of punting, playing defense, playing it out
that way, or when you're in plus territory and going
for a field goal as opposed to going forward on
fourth down and trying to march down closer to get
a touchdown, or even just you know, run at the clock.
In some cases, you know, when you make those decisions

(04:17):
as a head coach, there's not often that you're going
to get a head coach he's fired for kicking a
field goal, making it punting and then having to play.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Defense to get the stop. When you don't get those.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Fourth downs, that is a direct correlation to a head
coach decision that will get you fired. And that's where
like the numbers don't factor the job security element of
it into play, and there's people out there who might
be saying, well that you're not playing aggressive enough for
that's not how the game's played today. I tend to disagree,

(04:49):
Like football is a game of momentum, and you're allowing
the opponent sometimes to be able to gain back some
of that momentum with that one singular decision as opposed to,
you know, forcing them to potentially make a mistake. Like
I think over the course of the last two decades,
I think we do all agree Bill Belichick's been the
most successful head coach. There's only been a couple instances

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where we've seen him go for fourth downs backed up
or go for fourth downs in certain scenarios where you
might say that I was kind of risky. One of
them is goning he didn't want to get the ball back
to Peyton Manning. But outside of that, like he's kind
of played the odds of let's see if the other
team can't beat themselves. And I think more often than not,
you saw the Patriots have so much success because of

(05:33):
Belichick and Brading all these things, but also because teams
would get in those critical situations in tight games, and
they'd falter, they'd make mistakes, and I just I feel
like the thing about the Chargers is if they keep
pressing the envelope of you know, being aggressive with some
of those fourth down decisions instead of just taking the
points or playing a field position battle in punting, you

(05:55):
know's that's what concerns me is how Brandon Steele is
going to manage.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Tight games, big game games.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Moving forward, and then how that's going to impact his
job security. Look, they're one to one end of the division,
so ty for second with the Raiders that there's by
no means out of it at you know, four and
four at this point the season, they can make a run.
But I think that's what's gonna be under the microscope
the rest of the way for Brandon Staley and the Chargers.
Like that, to me is the biggest question about this team.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
I think they can get the eight wins, but I
think there's there's literally out of the next nine weeks,
there's only four games that I can see are winnable
for them, you know, moving forward. You know they have
the lines. I don't think they will win that game.
It could be a good game, But I don't I
don't see them winning that game, even at home.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Even at home, there'll be more Ravens. Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
I don't see I don't see them beating the Ravens.
I don't see them beating the Bills, and I don't
see them beating the Chiefs and their their season finale.
But I do see them being able to split or
sweep the Broncos. I do see them having the ability
to beat the Raiders. They could beat the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
And yeah Bay next week.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, yeah, I think they can win at Green Bay.
So and if you look at what they've done this season,
they haven't beat a good team all year, like, they
haven't beat a contender all season long. So if I'm
looking at the Chargers, they're really a relatively unproven team,
even though you can look at their defense and say

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that their defense makes them formidable. And what we saw
are their their offense last night. You could sit there
and you could say, well, they put it together in
a lot of ways last night. They showed some balance
on offense. But am I confident that going into a
big game against a good team that they can win.

(07:55):
There would be no indicators that would say that you
should have that type of confidence.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
For the Chargers.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I'm calling it right now. They're beating the Lions this weekend,
and the weekend after that, they're going to beat the
Green Bay Packers and the Ravens. They get them at home.
They could beat the Ravens. I got confidence. I think
this team in the next three weeks, we could be
looking at seven. No, we could be looking no, we could.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
You think, yeah, it is the NFL. You know they
could win or lose.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Well, you're saying you're you're saying they're not gonna beat
the Lions this weekend. I'm telling you right now, Yeah,
I think they're beating Detroit this weekend, and then after
that they'll beat the Packers even though they got to
go on the road, and they're going to be six
and four with that Baltimore matchup, and they're getting Baltimore
at home, and it's.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
You think they'll beat and you think they'll beat them. Not.
I'm not ready to make they have a chance that
they be.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I'm not ready to make that call yet. I go
two weeks at a time. That's wow, operate. Not ready
to make that call yet.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
But you just said not too long ago. You you
believe that they have a.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Chance I beat Yeah, I believe they have a chance
to be through it.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
But you do realize every team has the chance of
being Yes, that's why they call it any given Sunday.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, And I'm not ready to make the call on
that three weeks in advance. I'm only going two weeks
at a time. That's the way I operate. Okay, Yeah,
so two weeks at a time. They'll win their next
two games, so they'll be six and four, and then
you know, we'll get to that Ravens game when we
get to it. That's my role.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
So, like I said, it's November.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
If if they're indeed going to be a team that
saves their their head coaches job and they are to
move forward going trending in a positive direction, they got
to show that they can be a real competitive.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Here's the problem for Brandon Staley. They need to at
least win one playoff game for him to save his job.
If they get to the playoffs and lose again, he's
gone like, it's at least one playoff win, and it
wouldn't surprise me based on the history of the organization.
Even if they won their first playoff game as a
wildcard team but lost in the divisional round. If they

(10:07):
still caned him based on I'm.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Going to get in as a wild card team if
they don't win some real game.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I know, but I'm saying if they get to the playoffs,
I don't think automatically his job is safe. They need
at least to win in the post.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
But I'm telling you they might not even make it
to the postseason.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Well, I mean, you like to swim in the negative
side of the point, I do, go. You know, I'm
a little bit more about it.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Beat dollars.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (10:30):
Just because I just gave you the information. Name one
legitimate team that they've beat all season?

Speaker 3 (10:36):
What are you talking they want? Beat the Vikings in Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Oh that that's the legitimate win.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
And they beat Tyson Bagent and the Bears last week
and his dad was an arm wrestling champion. You're going
to discredit them?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, And by the way, Levart's at that point. Other
people have the Bears as a playoff team.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
That is, you know what, proof, no proof that that
actually happened.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
And an expert at that like somebody whereas national syndicated
radio mate that prediction, So it's gotta have some legitimacy.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You know, LaVar, Let me ask you this, when someone
makes a pick like that, do you think there has
to be some fandoms? I like, hey, maybe my you know,
family having to grow up in a certain part of
Illinois where there's big Bears fans there.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
And mad like grew up. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
is possible.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
The spreading of misinformation on this show is really really
just disheartening.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
It's possible there could have been booger sugar.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
You know what I actually, I actually took offense to
this is I've worked with Jonas for a long time.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
I know he's a Celtics fan.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
No, what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Why do you do this?

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'm not a Celtic Penguins.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
You're a Bears. You're a Celtics fan. Those are the.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Teams you root afore growing up. I know this about you.
Why are you trying to lie to everyone?

Speaker 3 (11:46):
I just look Also, it's okay, just say those are
the teams that.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Root off growing up. I used to root for the Browns.
I used to root for what is now the Guardians.
I'm not going to say their names.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Was growing up I wasn't. I just I gave takes.
That's what I did. Mood coming on Monday morning and
be like, so, who's your favorite team? I was like,
I don't have a favorite team. I got a favorite take,
and it just gives you hot take.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Eight years old, eight years old, you're giving hot takes
at the table in your product.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Product.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Don't forget about the summersaults and the flips and the
angling and and the moving around and then popping his
dad upside the hit and giving him a shiner. You
know that's right. It's like history is repeating it.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Why can't you be relatable in this sense, showing us
the fact that you had teams you're rooted for growing up.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Because I'm not relatable.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Look at you in the face, okay, skinny.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
If anything, I'm always every time I seen Jonas was like, man,
you talk like you're bigger than your I'm like, I'm just.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Well, he is a former player, right, that's the that's
the reason why we read the greg like Bill Belie.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Baby, hell yeah, to be a player.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
That's what he was in the movie. What do you
think Jonas was the extra that was the empire.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
In the back.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
But I love Bill Bellabie.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
Yeah, when he was going through the party and he
was avoiding all of the girls. You know, Jonas was
in every single scene. You just got to look real close.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Bill Belvey's got a hell of a resume.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
He kept showing his fangs like he was guiding and
directing Bill Bellamy to all of the different people.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Hey man, there's one of the most legendary quotes, and
that that I've tried to True players adjust.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
That's what he said.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think it was about that party when he was like,
that's right, he was like handling all the different women
that were there.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, true players adjust, man, Yeah, you gotta adapt, and
you gotta adjust to the given circumstance.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
But the funny thing is, like, as an athlete, that's
what you're thinking in the second quarter, game's not going well.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
You're like, hey man, Bill Belvey said it. True players adjust,
just to this game. There you go. Had nothing to
do with anything that else happening on the field.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
I remember thinking that all the time, like Bill Bellamy
sitting and how to be a player.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
You know, let's suggest do.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
You think Tom Telasco wish you would have adjusted to
the J. C. Jackson signing sooner rather than later, because
the report from ESPN says, speaking of the Chargers, that
the Chargers GM after he traded J. C. Jackson, who
they gave a five year, eighty two and a half
million dollar contract to in March of twenty twenty two,
that there was a defensive backs meeting after the trade,

(14:15):
and that Tom Tellesco stood in front of them and apologized,
calling it a swing and a miss. He apologized for
continuing to give Jackson the opportunities despite Jackson routinely showing
that he wasn't as committed as the rest of the
team while being one of the Chargers' highest paid players.
So at least you know a little bit of self
accountability here, like, hey, I screwed up on that little

(14:37):
uh that was my fault, and wellfore have.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
You ever heard of a general manager doing that before? No,
I'm not. That's a first for me.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Dog, That is like first, I've never heard of that.
I mean, I guess kudos to him for being open
and honest about it. I mean I also feel like
sometimes it's just not a great scheme fit.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
You've got a player who's been highly productive and you're like, hey,
let's bring him in here. We feel I can do
an X, Y, and Z, and you get there and
they're like, man, it doesn't really work with.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
What we're trying to do. There's also that element of it, right.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
I mean, maybe you should have apologized right after Tyreek
Hill sawed him off week one at Sofi Stadium at
the world's largest gazebo. Maybe you should have apologized then
because it didn't seem like it got much better after that.
So but a five years, eighty two and a half million,
what did he get guaranteed for that was like fifty
million guaranteed?

Speaker 1 (15:23):
It was a lot, man, I mean, heck, it was
a good deal for JC so damn good for him.
And by the way, like he was balling, didn't he
lead the league like in interceptions either over like a
I don't know, maybe that year, like over a two
or three year span.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, he was. Like his final year in New England,
he was really good and the Patriots were criticized for,
you know, not being able.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
To He also had injuries during his time with the Chargers.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
I mean that's like a place where like you sign
a big money deal where you get drafted, you go
there like yeah, I don't know what's in the water,
but we're just someone's gonna get banged up, going an
injury at some point. Yeah, Like they're one of the
most snake bitten teams every single year.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
It really is bad.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
No, it's it's awful. And it's like there's you know,
off season, like there was they had an offensive line
got I forget his name, they drafted, he was having
a really good camp, suffered an injury in camp and
it was already at Derwin James. Like you see Derwin
James play when he's healthy, he is unbelievable. But he

(16:23):
can't stay healthy, Like he just can't consistently stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
He popped brisaw last night.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
He did like he was flying with reckless abandon and
just I mean it was like a six yard game,
but like you've forgotten what happened before that. You just
watched Bristow get dropped back and even Breeze was like, damn.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
I just love when they had the microphones still on.
When those happened, they'd be.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Like, oh, yeah, oh you have to come up. That's right,
that's right, look at that not that be on out. Yeah.
I was like, oh my god, turn the mic off.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
I love hearing it, but turn the MIC's off, like
that's that's your y'all giving them too much content.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
It's too much content right there.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, that's what we do on this show, you know,
not them tolfl.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
That like man, they just they going all in like
entertainment value at its finess, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
No dump button on that one. No, I mean definitely
not no no dump buttons wow.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Wow or double dump if if you're not sure whether
or not somebody else caught it like we did last.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Hour or or ko see it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yeah, please, I mean I don't know.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
If it was caught it or if it was cho
see it.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
All right?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
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Speaker 7 (17:52):
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Speaker 5 (18:30):
I don't even want to know about how like I
have enjoyed this song.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
And I took at moments in my life.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, you don't even want to know Backyard chronicles that
party be going be full tilt by the time you
hear this song, if.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
You know what I mean. Yeah, you know about the bar,
I mean I know a lot about this one.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
Yeah, that's breast pumper right here in a glass a
glass toaster.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Yeah you really you have to drink when you hear
this song, don't you.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Amongst the other things? Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Some people you know pick take your take your pist
your pick your choice of poison that you're part taking
it in this but this is one of their movies, or.

Speaker 4 (19:19):
Take to one of the music songs. You know.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
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We do close up shop here with another edition of
You In or You out here on a Tuesday morning,
so that'll be yours again coming up here about twenty
minutes from now. So we got some good news for

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one team in the NFL. That team is the Arizona Cardinals,
who are right now the worst team in the league,
projected to pick number one overall in the draft, but
they're getting a couple of key pieces back. This from
Adam Schefter earlier James Connor, the running back. They are
opening the practice window for him to Attorney's been on
injury reserve the past four games, recovering from a knee injury.

(20:04):
But that coupled with the fact that Kyler Murray, their quarterback,
their franchise guy, gave the big money contract too. He
has not played a game since last December, and barring
any setbacks this week, he will get the start on
Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons. So week fourteen of last year,
last time he saw him, he goes down with the injury,

(20:27):
he recovers. Now he's back for Arizona. They find themselves
as a two point underdog against those Atlanta Falcons coming
up this Sunday, and it feels like this back half
of the season for Kyler Murray, he could be playing
for his future in Arizona, because if this doesn't go well,
they're probably looking at a quarterback atop the draft next

(20:47):
year potentially potentially.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
I mean they sound like they're really committed to him,
and contractually, I believe past this year, it wouldn't be
that easy to move on from him next year. I
mean you'd be thinking more via a trade, not so
much cutting him. So that's I think some of the
issue with that.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
But I don't know. I'm excited to see him get
back in there and play.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
He's an exciting player, but he's got a long term
deal and you know, in twenty twenty four, I believe
the dead cap hits like eighty one million, so it's
going to be a couple of years I think before
they can potentially move on from him. This isn't to
take away from Josh Thallas, who knows if he had
more time to prepare for the season, But I think
if you're looking at Kler Murray as an upgrade at quarterback,

(21:32):
the way this team's competed and played, if Murray can
win them a few games, who knows how it would
have looked, you know, the rest of the season would
have looked. The way this team's played like, they've hung
in there, they've you know, as the seasons were on
kind of kind of you know, almost.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I want to say fall by the wayside.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
But they've had some issues, but I think they're very
much capable of competing and winning some football games if
he's going to be able to get back up to
one hundred percent. But again, I don't think they're going
to move on from him, and I don't think they're
gonna be able to find a trade partner for him
even next year.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
His cap hit next year's fifty almost fifty two million. Yeah,
I think that's the key is he's I don't think
he's tradeable. Yeah, not un til twenty twenty five. Probably correct.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
But I would say to add to your point in
some regards, you could actually look at the idea of
Kyler Murray's value being established right now with him not
being in lineup right. This is a competitive team when
he's healthy and he's upright, and and you know, we

(22:35):
always make the joke, oh, look he looks like Super
Mario out there running around and stuff like that, and
he looks like he's in Fast Forward or whatever it
may be. But to that point, Kyler Murray has always
really had this team competitive when he's starting, and now
you're looking at a team that's really really struggling without
his services. So that could go to drive the point

(22:58):
home that you know, but we we did get it
right with Kyler Murray. The only knock on Kyler Murray
was one it's questionable as to how the team, you know,
the players may have felt about him in the locker room,
which is speculator, you know, a speculation, and that he
really enjoys his video.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Games more than anything else.

Speaker 5 (23:19):
If those are the two criticisms, I think both are
correctable criticisms. Nothing that's falling on the way he plays
the game. And so to me, you're looking at a
team that is struggling. If you're high up in the
draft ranks and and you you're you're getting a pick
of picks, why wouldn't you think about getting a compliment

(23:42):
to what Kyler Murray brings to the table. Get get
a good wide receiver, you know, beef up your offensive line, like,
do one of those things.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I wonder if this is going to end up being
a blessing in disguise for him, because there was the
knock on him that you know, maybe football wasn't his
you know, the first priority that maybe he video games. Yeah,
the video games, all that other stuff that was going on.
I wonder if this is the first real injuries had
to deal with, and he's had to stare his own
mortality in the eyes and be like, man, I kind

(24:14):
of like this, and I appreciate it more now than
maybe I thought I ever would, because I lost it
for so long, and.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
I might have threw his remote control, you know, sitting
on and his gaming chair and threw his gaming chair.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Across the room. You know, let me paint this for you.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Though, in regards to Murray, like we tend to forget
the type of production that he's had as a player,
Like if you kind of threw out last year, which
a little bit became a dumpster fire, and he obviously
wasn't even to play the entirety of the season, and
so who knows how things would have turned out. But
in the previous three years, he's thrown north of thirty
seven hundred yards, all right, Like, that's what he's giving you.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
Every single year.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
He's gonna throw somewhere around twenty three twenty four touchdown passes.
He's gonna run in because he is a tremendous athlete.
He's going to run in another I don't know big
on some of those stats. It kind of has varied,
but for the most part, you need at least five
six You know, in a second you're hit eleven rushing touchdowns,
but somewhere over four hundre yards rushing five in yards

(25:12):
rushing you could throw onto that. He's got a two
to one touchdown interception ratio. He's completed sixty seven percent
of his passes like that. You can win with that.
Like that's a quarterback. That's that's a franchise, consistent quarterback
in the league.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
It's just you know, I don't know. I mean it
was a two time Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
I don't know that this you know, roster was built
to the point where if they when they made the
playoffs and they were all ultimately going to be able
to compete the way maybe the ownership in front office.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Thought they would.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
But the way this group is playing right now, and
if they get you know, better quarterback.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Play, I think they could be competitive.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I'm not sure how many games are gona win this year,
but as they continue to build, like I give him
a shot.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
At his best, he's a top three to five quarterback
in the NFC.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Yeah, I think statistic you could make that argument based
on what he's done and up until last year, and
I continue to see this like they were building towards that,
Like he got better and better and better with each
season as he played, Like you could see that statistically,
you could see that with the way their team played,

(26:18):
and then last.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
Year was just kind of like the what the hell
happened there?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know, But as an offensive rookie of the Year
and year one, two time pro bowler after that, he
had been everything you wanted to be, and then they
had that kind of all in year last year, it
just it didn't work out. And I you know, I
think what they're building now with Jonathan Gan, at least
early on, it looks like this there could be a
team that's competitive and might surprise a lot of people

(26:42):
if he comes back as healthy and can play the
way we've seen in the past.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
I mean, how about you and I trying to provide
some optimism for the Cardinals and supporting Kyler Murray and
Levar's got him throwing his gamer chair, you.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Know, trying to god that. I mean, that was optimism.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
It's like it's like a Rocky movie right, like you're
you're in there and you're tired. But then you're watching
and you see Apollo Kree get the life knocked out
of him, and then you're like, the hell with this game?
Why am I playing these video games?

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Why am I? Why am I just letting my life
just get away from it?

Speaker 5 (27:14):
And then you throw your chair and then you you
throw your remote control, and then you start watching film
and they play the rocky music, and then you start
doing push ups and sit ups and stretching exercises to
to make this right.

Speaker 4 (27:28):
There you go, there you go. I'm just saying, man,
you know, I'm just saying, like he heard that little
voice in his head.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
You know, you play video games, don't you know. Yeah,
he's got all these voices coming at him. And then,
you know, and then he gets in shape, and you guys.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
All know what happens next.

Speaker 5 (27:47):
He goes to the top of one of those mountains
that he's he's hiking in Arizona, and he looks over
and he goes, you know, like.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Like NFC, he's got his VR goggles on playing.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
There. It is enough scene.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
And then and then he comes out of the tunnel
and then he's commenced to like womping ass. Then Arizona
wins out the rest of their games the rest of
the year.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Now, would he be listening to this or the Super
Mario Brothers theme? Which do you think?

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Do we have the Super Marios? He'd be Super Mario.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Well, it's a video game theme. You know. LaVar's got
him as a gamer, not really a football player.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
I didn't say he's a gamer and not really a
football player. I said what was stated in his contract.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Huh oh.

Speaker 5 (28:36):
See this this song along with the clause of putting
an extra amount of time studying your plays versus playing
video games.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
This was the song.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Can you imagine if he had this on, like getting
getting back into shape like he's doing, you know, two
hundred and twenty five pound lunges across the weight room floor,
and he's got this banging on the speakers.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
No, he's going to use a pool like he's going
to be running. He's going to be jumping over things
like lawn chairs and lounger chairs and spinning around umbrellas
and then jumping into the pool of water and then
getting out of there and then jumping over something else,
and then he's going to land on it and it's
going to make those noises and yeah, he's like real
life Mario brother.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Just you know, this is terrible what you've done to
the man. He's trying to come back from injury.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
I'm giving you said I was being negative saying he
already plays games.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Don't put this still put this on LeVar, right, because
Jonas has.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Said things in the past two I haven't sitting on
the curves feet daggling.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
It's the best one ever, by the way, the best
one ever. He said that.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Jonas, taking out of context, that's exactly what you saw.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Man seem sitting on the bitch kicking his feet like coach.
La la la la la la. You you put this
on LeVar that this has been you, so hey, somebody
he'll be off this bitch so I could go in.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
The gate, hide and go seek behind a donut hole. Yeah,
I would never say anything.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Like that is character.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Little brought up what other sport you could play? Because
I was just alluding to baseball. What'd you say?

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I don't recall you do you just.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Rat Sananita cah geez, that's what this is, what your words.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Dude, I don't recall what I'm rooting for Kyler Murray.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
Caler Murray gave new meaning to I'm going to hang
out in the crib.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
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Speaker 7 (31:43):
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Speaker 4 (31:54):
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Speaker 5 (32:33):
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Speaker 4 (32:42):
Give me a receiver or two. Get a pass rusher.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Yeah, move huh set hut first down, kill kill kill.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Throw the ball and I'm Murray back to throw. Murray scrambles,
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Speaker 4 (33:00):
Kyler, Kyler come, Kyler, you could do it. Kyler. Here
he comes. That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Man right here, oh man, right there, right there, video
games thrown in the trash.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Bam.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
There he is starting for the Arizona Cardinals. They win
every game. A good song on his return.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
I mean, it takes you through the whole storyline of
Kyler Murray's return.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
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(33:53):
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Speaker 2 (34:09):
Two pros in a cup of show what even to know?
They're at or hit?

Speaker 4 (34:15):
They're out?

Speaker 2 (34:16):
All right?

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Lead to lot? What do we got?

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Guys?

Speaker 11 (34:19):
Martavius Bryant was working out with the Cowboys yesterday. You
guys enter out on him coming back to the league.
Who would you want him on your team?

Speaker 4 (34:27):
I'm in? And you showed a lot of ability. Uh,
he's been reinstated. Why not?

Speaker 1 (34:31):
I mean I think that Chiefs and Bills if the
Cowboys don't sign up from give them a look. I
mean they could use a bigger bodied target like that.
So I hope you can come back, hope he can
make an impact and help. But seem in a playoff bush, you.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Know, I'm in, I'm out. There's I mean, we got
a there's enough receivers in football that deserve an opportunity
like that's a good reason. Yeah, just yeah, it's a
great reason.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Look, there's there's no reason to defend that a tremendous point.

Speaker 11 (34:59):
Yeah, I agree, What else we got another guy who's
making a comeback. Mister Blake Martinez signed with the with
the Carolina Panthers after the Pokemon business went south went under.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Guys in h did we ever get confirmation of what
happened with all the pokemons.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
Didn't go under?

Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, it did.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Fraudulent, I believe.

Speaker 11 (35:19):
Yeah, one of his employees was was not above board,
and so therefore he wasn't able to make business anymore
business transactions with the cards.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
I don't think it's just that. I don't think it
was just on one of his employees.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
I thought it was like the values were somewhat fraudulent,
or they're like they weren't legitimate or whatever.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 11 (35:39):
He maintains that they were legitimate, but that one employee was, Yeah,
may have been doing.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
What you're saying is he still made like six million
on one card though, right, Like, didn't he make a
bunch of money stuff?

Speaker 4 (35:50):
That one was questionable? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Oh yeah, man, he needs it.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Yes, some Pokemon cards don't.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Don't you have a Blake Martinez Packers Jersey?

Speaker 2 (35:59):
They do?

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Indeed, Oh wait, Lee, they sure have to CHIOD teams.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, I'm on the bar when you gonna make yours?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh just Steelers, Stillers?

Speaker 6 (36:10):
What else you GotY guys?

Speaker 11 (36:12):
We got Maction tonight, Bolls Southern Illinois, also got Central
Michigan at Western Michigan and Ohio and Buffalo.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
Last Halloween night. We had double barrel double barrel snow
Globe games and Max for the Maction debut last weekend.
So let our last week. What are we getting snow
Globe games this weekly or no? Yeah, probably not, damn it.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
These aren't good matchups either.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
Oh wow, geez sama one of the spreads.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
I bet you if we said that about Iowa, you
wouldn't agree with that.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Bang bang bang.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
Oh you mean the Big Ten West leading division Iowa.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (36:52):
No, I'm just saying it's like, you know, you want
to see like and I'm sorry to come completely commandeer
this segment here.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
You want to see like your Toledo's taking on your Miami. Ohios.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Don't ask LaVar what Hawkeyes rhymes with? You get dumped again?

Speaker 4 (37:07):
Okay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:09):
What is the rhyme with shock eyes?

Speaker 6 (37:12):
What they'll do in the Big Ten championship game?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I mean not everyone's head's in the gutter, like literally
like yours in the gutter.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
I still haven't figured out what it rhymes with.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
Okay, sockeye salmon?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Okay, what else we got?

Speaker 11 (37:26):
Lee, Guys, there was a story that just went over
the local news about two dollars bills. You know, they
can be worth a quite a pretty penny, actually a
lot more than two dollars, up to five thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Are you guys in?

Speaker 11 (37:37):
Do you guys keep two dollars bills when you get
two dollar bills?

Speaker 4 (37:40):
All right? I know you do.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I'm in because for some reason, my dad had a
collection of two dollars bills growing up, like he's got it,
and we still have him somewhere. There's a bunch of them.
So I'm wondering if this is like worse.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
This is how you this is how this is how
you do it, that's all you're saying.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I don't know. I think he would will be pissed,
like he was a borderline of hoarder, So I think
it would. I think it would be pissed if we
cashed him in now for money. He saved up for
those for.

Speaker 4 (38:07):
A long ever, using them.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't know how can a two dollars bill be
worth more than two dollars.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Well, it's okay, this is work. It's like back when
Nichols were made of nickel. If the actual silver.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Yeah, well they were from sober.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
But you get they at some point if the commodity
actually is worth war in the amount of ounces, that
it would be greater than five cents.

Speaker 6 (38:30):
That sounds Clemson fans will have two dollar bills, Yeah
they do.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
What else we got?

Speaker 11 (38:36):
Lee A very happy birthday to Dravonte Tank Davis Nice turned.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
To a birthday segment.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
Any other birthdays? Lea anything else you got?

Speaker 6 (38:46):
No, that's about it.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah, Happy birthday, John, Happy, Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
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