November 8, 2023 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, whether or not the Jets are a playoff team, Aaron Rodgers wants to prove a point by playing at the end of the season. Carson Wentz gets another shot in Los Angeles. Will Levis gets the go ahead in Tennessee and New England has a wish list for Bill Belichick replacements. Plus, the weekly visit from Petros Papadakis to weigh in on Caleb Williams crying and all things college football.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Areas and Rady Guinn and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So you're in Pa.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
How we feel in my I'm in my mecca? You know,
I'm in my mecca.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now are you in State College yet? Are you in
the Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm at Stake, I'm in the I'm in the football
I'm in the last building right now? Yeah, yeah, yes,
the Lord has entered the College State otherwise known as
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State College, Pennsylvania eight one four last building. He is here,
he has returned. Hey him College Football Hall of Famer.
On the walls, the hollow, the walls that you walk
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down that none of the current players, even though if
you were walking in front of them, who you are. Nonetheless,
we are on the wall outside of the door.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There's a little bit of a little hint of Jamaican
in there.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I heard, Oh, well, you know Jamaican is britt you
know that's England. Yeah, it's got a little bit of
English in it, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
A little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, listen, you know it is going to be a
fun ride here for the next couple of hours. We're
going to get more into what is happening there in
State College. Potentially you could be missing a key member
of the opponent coming out this weekend there for the
Michigan Wolverines. We'll have more on that later on, but
we've got to start with what was seen to be
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a long shot initially once the incident took place and
the injury took place, and that was the Aaron Rodgers
tearing of the Achilles, and people just sort of looked
at it and said, all right, well, he's going to
be done for the year, and that's that. We're gonna
go ahead and move on to some other things. And instead,
Rogers continues to make progress, rapid progress, unlike anything we've
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ever seen. You've documented this and we've talked about it, LeVar.
You've gone through the Achilles injury yourself. You know how
daunting of a task that is. So to see him
even out there throwing walking around no crutches, just a
few weeks after the injury took place is impressive. So
Rogers was on with the Pat McAfee show starring Ajayhawk.
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There was an incident that was caught on camera at
the end of the game on Monday night where he
was talking with Derwin James of the Chargers, and Derwin
James was asking him something along the lines of when
can we see you back when he come back, and
he said, give me a few weeks. And so people
look to that is, well, you got a whole half
of the season left.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Could we see.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Rogers before the end of the year. And so he
talked about those comments to Derwin James yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Let's take it away.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Let's hear he came over, damned me up during during
the game and good to see him after the game.
I didn't realize that was gonna get caught there. I mean,
obviously that was said with a little tongue in cheek there.
It'd be nice to be able to be back in
a couple of weeks. That's probably not anywhere near a
realistic timeline, but a couple is, you know, could be
be a few, could be a lot of It's more
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of a phrase that didn't have a specific timetable. But yeah,
I said, it's smiling joking. You know, he was talking
about how you know, he's excited for me to get
back on the field. At some point I joked it
be a few weeks, but obviously it's gonna be more
than a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
So a couples to a few three ye rush, I'm
aware of this, right, So I'm just saying it's.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Gonna be it's gonna be a few, it's gonna be
a few, a few fortnights, so it'll be a few fortnights.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's the latest from Aaron Rodgers discussing his potential return this.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Year for the Jets. Okay, so what's your angle on this.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think that if it's late in the year, what
we saw on Monday Night, they're not a playoff team,
and I don't believe that they're going to be in
contention to be a playoff team by the time he's
ready to come back. But the thinking would be, well,
if they're not a playoff team, why would he even
bother coming back at that point? And I think that
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Rogers has got two things going on here. One, he
hopes they're in contention so if he comes back, he
can play meaningful games and maybe the make.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
To the postseason.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And two, I think he's dead set on proving people
wrong because what happened over the past couple of years.
Everybody questioning his comments about whether it be the vaccine,
his way of getting better, his idea of how to
get the mind and the body right. Like he's got
all sorts of things that seemed to be very controversial
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because they go against big Pharma and so on and
so forth. I think he sees this as an opportunity
in saying, while everybody's going down this path, I'm going
to take this new surgery path that hasn't been done before,
and I'm going to prove all of you guys wrong,
just like I've been trying to do for the past
couple of years. I think there's two battles here. Are
they going to be a playoff team? And can I
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prove some people wrong. I don't think they'll be a
playoff team, But if he's got an opportunity to prove
somebody wrong, even if it's the final game of the
regular season and they're eliminated, we're going to see Rogers
back on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You know. I could see that being a goal of
his for the reasons that you said, give the people
something to be excited for, even after they're not they're
not competitive to make it to the playoffs, Like I
could see that, give them, give them something excited exciting
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for the off season and about him in particular for
the off season. All he needs to do is get
back out there, have a pretty decent game, and he
gets his teammates, and he gets the fan base, and
probably you could say the media, the local media for certain,
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a lot to write about and a lot to talk
about going into the off season. That would be and
I hope I'm not being out of line or disrespectful
for saying this, that would seem to be very Aaron
Rodgers esque to do something that would actually galvanize and
dominate the headlines in the off season, whether it be
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going down into the Hobbit Hole or going on you know, getaway,
you know in the wilderness with your girl and cliff
diving and stuff like that, like whatever it may may be.
He seems to do a great job of staying relevant
during the off season. So I would not say that
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that is far fetched as a theory. I, however, will
say I do believe it's still far fetched to think
that he would be able to return from that injury
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I mean, it's kind of wild that it's even a
possibility like that we're even having a legitimate conversation.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, but do we really know that it's a possibility.
Like I understand he's ahead of schedule, and I understand
that he's throwing the ball around and all that good stuff,
but throwing the ball around, and to that point, I
don't want to diminish how phenomenal it is him being
moving around up on his feet the way that he is,
because that is pretty phenomenal. But with that being said,
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there's a very different tone to how your body has
to move when it's under duress in a football game
versus just throwing the ball around and walking around. That's
two very drastically different ways of moving your body. I
just think that it's not realistic and I don't think
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it's reasonable to think that that's a real possibility. Now, Listen,
I don't you don't you definitely, in my if I
recall correctly my recollection, you don't risk re injuring the
Achilles tendon that's been repaired. When if you once you
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get back out there, and if you get back out
there so early from whatever it is that you're doing,
I would say the only real risk that that you
have is hurting something else because you're overcompensating for a
body part that isn't fully back to where it needs
to be.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So it's not like an ACL to where we've seen
guys reinjure the ACL, like Odell Beckham or some of
these other guys.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No, you can re injure your Achilles tendon. You can
re injure an ACL, but it would most likely be
a new a new injury. It would be a new injury.
I don't. I don't if I were call correctly, It's
not like it's supposed to be repaired and be strong,
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the same thing with an ACL, that one's a tendant
and one's a ligament. I would assume that the tendon
is repaired and it's probably more sturdy than the ligament,
the ACL ligament, or any other ligament that you would
be getting replaced in your knee. But I would assume
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that if you were to re injure your knee or
re injure your Achilles tendon, that still would be categorized
as a new injury, not an injury like Okay, you
came back and it wasn't fully healed, and so it
was re injured. That way, if you were to rupture
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your your Achilles tendon again on the same on the
same achilles heill. I would assume that that is a
new injury. But what's more likely to happen when you
have that type of injury take place is that you're
going to compensate in other areas. So his hip might
start hurting, his lower back might start hurting. His other
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knee might start hurting. My back the same my neck
and my back the same side. Knee might might start hurting,
like something might, something will. Most likely, in fact, right now,
he's probably dealing with pains in other parts of his
body right now, right now, just off of the compensation
of his body trying to balance out.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I mean, who isn't though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's very true. You know, like my ankle is sore
right now, same one that I was dealing with. It's
just sore. It's just sore.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Also, those steps you have to walk up to get
to the private jet are pretty steep from what I hear,
So that would make some sense that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I didn't use a private jet. But I am a
I am a dreamliner guy. You ever use a dreamliner?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
What's a dreamliner?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
So dreamliners? Are you have your own? Like I didn't
have my own pod? So to speak. It wasn't like
a pod pod dreamliner like the Big Boys, but it was.
It was a decent dreamliner where you have like a
fully you got a big screen TV and then you
know your seat fully reclines and stuff like that, and
you do you kind of have a partition away from
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the person sitting next to you. But in some of
those some dreamliners you actually could sit with like somebody,
like a companion, and and it's like almost like a
privacy privacy chair.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm looking at it right now. It looks like a cubicle. Right,
that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, they're pretty dope. So that's when I drive. When
I fly to the East Coast, I always fly on
a Dreamliner. Damn. Yeah, I don't mess around. Yeah, So
I feel good, I feel rested, I feel ready to go,
and and for once, for once, because I do complain,
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not complaining, but for once, I started the trip and
I finished the trip without without any type of any
real yeah, any real things situations planning out where I
missed my flight or we were on the jet way
for an hour and a half. It all worked out.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So you know what that means on the way back,
you're screwed. Yeah, you're you're gonna run it all sorts
of issues on the way back. That's usually how this
stuff works. But look, I mean, I I think the
fact that we're even having this discussion about Rogers potentially
making a return, I think it's fascinating. I would love
to see it, just because I would love to see
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if it opens up the doors to earlier returns because
of the injury, because somebody took the risk and being
the first one to do it. To me, that's that's evolution,
that's progress, that's you know, medicine advancing all of that stuff.
I would be really interested to see how it plays out.
And I just wonder final game of the season is
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January seventh, all right, So we are basically two months
away from the final game of the season, which I
believe is going to be the last opportunity for him
to play because I just don't see this team being
a playoff team based on all the other issues they have,
and they're at New England potentially Belichick's final game as
a Patriots coach, and we get Rogers making his return.
I'm just saying there is some potential there, So that
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could be something for Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
There you go, coming up for the final one.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I guess it. If it works out, it's a feel
good story. People can get excited about it and look
at you know, what what's to come and what they're
looking forward to, and and you get a feel good
story that Aaron Rodgers is one hundred percent in tune
with his body to the effect of where he would
be able to pull off getting back as quickly as
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he did.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Listen, if this was Deshaun Watson, we wouldn't see him
till twenty thirty. So the fact that we're even at
this point with Rogers just shows it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But Deshaun came back and play really Sunday, so there
you go. It's great. So he's back in the mix toog.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It'st that that vaunted Cardinals team which is currently projected
to pick first in the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So good stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
There.
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Speaker 4 (14:26):
So couple of quarterback updates and a head coaching update
or rumor is probably the better word to use there.
Rumor as far as the head coach goes. Carson Wentz
is back, right, He is back, all right. He has
not played since last year, but Carson Wentz is back.
He will serve his backup to Matt Stafford in LA.
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So kind of interesting that that was the spot and
the destination that he chose. But Brett Rippin filled in
for Matt Stafford this past weekend in Green Bay and
it was a diaper fire performance. Not well did he
perform at all? And they got just completely manhandled by
a bad Green Bay Packer team in lambeau Field. And
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so the La Rams decided, we've got to make a move,
and so Carson Wentz his back and he will servece
back up to Matt Stafford with the Rams there. So
I don't know where that lands with you are if
you even.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Care, Yeah, listen, I care because it's it's football season,
and it's football. The Rams are a team that obviously
is not doing very well this year, and it's it's
sad because Aaron Donald is still wrecking games and still
playing at a very very high level.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
And did you see that. I'm sorry, but did you
see the video. There's a clip online where he's getting
double teamed by two Packers offensive linemen and splits him,
gets around and makes a play like runs down the
back out of the backfield and it's like they're not
even there. It's just like he's he's that good still
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at this stage of his career.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, he's still that good. And and that that lead
gets buried by the losing, and then you start to
ask yourself the question of what does that mean for
mcveigh's future in in Los Angeles? Because this is two
years straight where this team is is underperforming, and and
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so you look at Carson Wentz being brought in at
this at this juncture in time, what what are we
expecting from Carson Wentz on a three to win team?
I mean, if we're being honest, what what exactly would
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the expectation be for Carson Wentz if, by chance he
takes over as the starting quarterback of this team? I mean,
what are you looking for? Right? Because I mean, let's
look at their schedule. They have the Seahawks that's going
to be a tough one for them. They have the
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Cardinals that that's their evenly match. But then you have
the Browns. That's a gifted defense there and and now
they're playing they'll probably be better on offense. Then they have
the Ravens that could be the hottest team in football
right now. They have the Commanders, which the Commanders are
always a threat. They're not. You're not going to look
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at them and say that's a that's a given loss.
But you're not going to look at the Commanders and
say that's a given win either. The Saints are improving
the Giants now who knows, and then they have the
forty nine Ers, right, So out of all those games,
you have one, two, three, out of the game's remaining,
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there's like and one of those three is a pot possible.
The Commander's game is a possible. So you have two
games that you should win and a possible that you
could win.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And also you mentioned the Cardinals with Kyler Murray back
as we've talked about and you've talked.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
About, could get better.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, that's not a shit prove like, that's not I mean, he.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Makes them better by himself. He makes that team all
the way better and we.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Know they play hard. So yeah, we could be looking
at a four or five win team.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
At the end of this whole thing, six tops, Yeah,
six wins tops. So when you look at that, what
exactly are we supposed to say about Carson Wentz Carson Wentz.
If Carson Wentz were to come into this scenario and
give them more than three wins and he was the
starter for that, then then it's a different conversation at
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the point in time that he gets the four wins,
five wins, you know, whatever it may be. And you're
talking about one of the I mean, he would have
to be up for Comeback Player of the Year I think.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And just the big picture, we're basically staring at the
end of this RAMS era square in the eyes.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's over, and Carson Wentz's career. I mean, if you're
gonna if the segment is about Carson Wentz, you're not
only looking at the end of an era for the
La Rams where they're gonna have to at some point
take a good, heart long look at what they're going
to do to move into the future. But you're gonna
you're gonna look at careers like Carson Wentz and you're
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gonna be like, you know, this is what it is,
Like we need a quarterback to back up this guy.
We'll bring him in. He's going to be a traveler.
He'll move around, he might not play much at all.
He might get called in due to an injury, this, that,
and the other, and before long he'll disappear.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Now, the other piece of quarterback news we should get
to is the Tennessee Titans have determined they'd like to
get more of a look of Will Levis. They'd like
Will loves go ahead and yeah, imagine that after the
past two performances. Here was Mike Able, the head coach
of the Titans, talking about the decision to switch to
Levis as a starting quarterback moving.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Forward, going forward, you know, Will's gonna be our quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
We're gonna go with Will.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
We think that's the best opportunity for our football team
right now. And you know, see where he's at. I
think Ryan will progress through here this week. I think,
you know, to be a backup for us and prepare
as a starter. But that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I think about it. We're pulling ten in hill, pulling him,
So that's a big move. Like they're moving into the
future with their team, and Will Levis is seemingly the guy.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I mean everything, You've seen it, and we talked about
it last Friday after the Thursday night game against Pittsburgh,
Like the numbers maybe weren't there in the box score. Oh,
and he threw that late interception, but he's trying to
make a play. But if you just look at how
composed he is, how much more dynamic the offense seems
with him at quarterback, this is a no brainer. Like
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I mean, if I'm Mike Rabel, if I'm a Titans fan,
I'm really excited about what this is going to look
like moving forward. Because this is somebody who you know,
slipped in the draft. There was all sorts of stuff
about him and you know, work ethic or whether people
got along with him, and instead he waited his turn,
he got his opportunity. He completely you know, lit it
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up the week before through the four touchdowns and then
he went on the road in Pittsburgh against that defense
and had an opportunity at potentially winning that game. To me,
if I'm Mike rabelin on the Titans, this was a
no brainer the whole way through.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well, guys are getting getting some yards now, Phillips getting
yards as d hop if he's happy about having will
Levis in there as opposed to any other quarterback there,
and he'd probably tell you, hell yes. So you're building
the confidence of your players around you on the offense
right now because they believe in will Lefis, will Levis
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and his ability to deliver what he's delivering. So I
think it's a You know, Mike, we've talked about AP
and Antonio Piers during this show. Mike vrabel is like
an original Antonio pears right, like he's he's one of
those guys who played in the league, played linebacker, heart
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knows guy. But as a player's coach, he relates to
his players, He cares about his players. His players know
that he cares about him, and the things that he
does is very interactive and very very just just connected
to what what the environment of the culture is in
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in Tennessee. So I don't think he's lost that. I
don't think he's lost this locker room in any shape
or form any way. And and so what he's going
to do, he's going to continue to try to build
for the future. We heard the rumors of what could
possibly happen with trading Henry or anything like that. Uh,
they've been in some some transition as a of years late.
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I'm trying to figure out where where to go because
they have not been able to get over the hump
with ten and Hill at at at the quarterback's position.
So you get in Levis. Levis has that big arm.
He's showing that he's learning the game. He's adjusting and
adapting to the NFL game, and it looks like he's
adjusting and adapting nicely to it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You want to why here another rumor that's out there.
Let's hear the Tennessee Titans. Let's hear Javar Arrington I
have in my hands right here.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, let me hear it.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, Okay, what you got the Boston Globe?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Okay, what does the Boston Globe have to do with Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
According to the Boston Globe, two sources close to the
New England Patriots, okay view Mike Rabel and Nick Cassario
the Texans GM as their quote unquote home run targets
to replace Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What do you think about it?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
That?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
For the me I've been saying for the last couple
of years, does Bill Belichick's seat get hot. Everybody says
he's sitting on a glacier and there's no way that
he could lose his job, and this and that and
the other. Doesn't sound like that's continuing to be the
main theme and story of what's taking place in New England.
Sounds like people are getting a little bit restless and
(24:22):
getting a little tired of what they're seeing take place.
And there you know, at some point, there comes a
point in time where you got to think about it.
Is there going to be some necessary changes made?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You ever felt underappreciated at your house?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Almost like the only time the only time you hear
from people is when you do something wrong or they're
unhappy with you, Like it's it's never like it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
If you're and that's all the time.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, And you know, like if you're one of the
people out there that are listening, going, yeah, I feel
the same way. In fact, you left early to go
to work in to go work early just because you
wanted to get out of the house fifteen minutes sooner
because you were tired of getting ridiculed.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you're listening to this, you can really with Bill.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Belichick for all he's done for that organization in the
past two decades and everybody wants him out, like we've
all how quickly we've forgotten how great that organization has been.
And now you got the Boston Globe writing up articles
talking about Mike Vrabel and Nick Cassario taking over the job.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Hey, you know what was it spelled backwards?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Saul? Damn? If you was doing well, if you was
getting it done, and that was continues to be a was,
you're gonna have to flip that word around. You're gonna
have to sell that. You're gonna have to saw it off.
So just be careful when you would you become AZ,
(25:43):
when you that was for too long, You're gonna have
to deal with the saw.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I'm a I'm a Bill Belichick guy, So I hope
you wait to sol thing out. In fact, I hope
Bill Belichick tells Robert Kraft, I dare you to fire me?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I dare you to fire me? Okay, anything else?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And you know what if Bill Belichick does get fired,
you know what does she do on his on his
exit press conference?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Do you do he should say?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
You know what, I think I'm gonna take some time
to myself. I'm gonna go hang out at you know,
a massage parlor in Jupiter, Florida, and just go ahead
and just take my time there. Just real petty, nice,
little nice, little to the ribs of rubber craft, you know,
something a little dig inside there, little bodywork dig inside.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, yeah, go have fun with that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Thank you, coach.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
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Speaker 2 (27:52):
Good morning, what's happening.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Good morning everybody, Hello morning, Hello, LaVar, Hey, good morning,
good morning.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So, uh, Petros Lvar has been getting some pushback from
people on social media.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
LeVar, you want to explain.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Why I don't have no problems with that's my former teammate.
I have no problems with with RC, and I know
there's been interesting back back and forth between him and Q,
but I don't have it, you know, they're saying, I
got to pick a side. You know, it is what
it is. But anyway, I made mention of I had
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an opinion on Caleb Williams.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
Uh mother's arms.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Jumping into the stands to cry in his mother's arms.
What what what was your take on it? Like? Did
you have a takeaway from it? Did you think nothing
of it at all? Like I've been getting a little
pushback on my.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Mind, Well what was your take?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
LeVar?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I think there's a time and place for everything, and
I just think the you know, the fabric of what
football is is built on and based on is turning
young young boys and young guys into men. It's it's
almost it's the closest thing to being in the military
without being in the military.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
It's a man's game.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And so to me, it's it's you know, a lot
of people were giving me flak in terms of basically
saying that it comes across as insensitive or you know,
I'm I'm the reason why young men have mental health
issues because I'm basically saying, uh, you know, take your
motions and bury them away, tuck them away. Listen, I
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didn't I see what you did there? You can you
can go into the animals and see. When we lost
the Minnesota my last year in school, I was my
dad had to come get me out of the locker room.
I collapsed to the ground. What's the keyword there? Out
of the locker room. Exactly out of the locker room.
So there's a time and a place for everything. But
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what what's your take on it?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Well, uh, I was a lot more and not like
I get upset about these things, but I was not.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Clearly, I was not upset. I was not perturbed by
him doing what. You know, a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Weren't look like you know, I mean, if it was
a Penn State guy, you know a lot of people
you would start to know, like, wow, all these people
are upset, you know, like I'm a USC guy. So
a lot of people were upset about it, Like a
lot of people that never even played football were upset
about it. I did not like the Utah one right
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where he sat there and looked super dejected, knowing that
all the cameras are on him, had to show them
how disappointed he was, had to be coaxed off the
bench by one of those towel waving guys. And when
it comes to family. You never know what's going on
in someone's family, you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
So and I said that, of course, I'm not saying
if somebody was sick, like if his mom was sick
or somebody sick in the family, I would apologize profusely
in terms of having to take that I did because
I do not know if there was any other circumstances
connected to him doing that outside of the game. But
if I'm keeping it, if I make the the opinion
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and I'm keeping it, apples to apples, it's because you
lost this game. I thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Yeah, there was a lot of people that would say,
I mean, they don't want to say it in public,
but they would say, you know, after the Utah thing
and after you know, the nail painting and all the
different things that have been reported and some of the
things he said, especially recently, that.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
It was performative.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
But I mean, look, to me, it's always a general
rule of thumb if I was a coach, or if
anybody asked me my advice, it's get up the tunnel
when the game is over, especially if you lose. If
you know somebody on the other team or somebody recruited you,
or there's somebody to give a hug to, go ahead
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and do that. If you're too pissed off to shake hands,
that's okay too. Get up the tunnel. Get up the tunnel,
Get up the tunnel. Don't you're done playing, You're you're
on a team. It's not about you as an individual,
even though as much as it is when the game
is over and you've lost, get up the tunnel. That
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that would always be my message when I was an
older player. Look after my very first football game, I
thought I had been through a lot, most of it
self inflicted. Uh, not my very first game, but my
very first game, I scored a touchdown in You know,
I remember crying in my well, my father's arms, you know,
in the tunnel, out out, you know, in in and
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out of the locker room after the game, in the tunnel.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
What did your dad say to you?
Speaker 10 (32:47):
You nothing? You know, it was just an emotional moment.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You loser.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
No, Uh it that to me? You know that that's
just And it doesn't have to be Caleb Williams. It
could be anybody. Get get up the tunnel. But it
is amazing how the equity of faith and love that
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was raining down upon Caleb Williams nationally and locally in
many ways has evaporated. Uh, and mostly because of just
the overall USC football teams play, and it is a
team sport. You know, he is a great individual player,
but I don't know if playing to his individual talents
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has really helped us he develop as a team the
last couple of years. I mean, they were eleven and
what they won eleven games last year and or they
they are falling to pieces and it's it's going to
be hard to see where the next victory is coming from.
They're going up to Eugene. You know they're gonna have
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to play a tough UCLA team. You know, this is
not this is not to be pretty because they've lost
their motivation for a national title. This guy still might
win a Heisman, but it's not a great scene over there.
And I agree with you. To me, it's something that
should be up the tunnel. But when it's a family thing.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
You never know.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
But uh, you know that's a that was some serious sobbing.
It was some real shoulder shaking.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, oh man, belly belly ache and belly move. And
I just listen, tell me this because I've asked every
football player that I've talked to since this happened, and
asked a question, how many times have you not seen
your family when you come out of the locker room
when they're at the game. How many times has your
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family came to a game and did not come see
you when you came up out of that locker room.
Speaker 10 (34:50):
My grandmother, the great Angie Papadakis, Uh.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Okay, they God let rest her soul. They used to
bring boxes of a the little soldiers, you know. They
we owned liquor stores when I was a kid. Uh
and uh, you know I I your grandma compete, Yes
she did, And I got twelve little bottles of freaking
Johnny Walker red to show, you know, and we'd be
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on the plane, you know, and enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
What I'm saying is, yes, your family is always there.
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
You never There's not been one time you did not
see them when you came out with your people. Don't
understand that he sweatsuit on right. That's and that's my point, like,
if you know all of the inner workings of all
of this, that's something that you you'd have more than
enough time to weep in your mom's arms and on
her shoulder, and with your dad and your family. Get
(35:44):
to like you said, get to and they teach you this.
Get to the locker room, collect your thoughts. They don't
let the media right in because they give you a
little bit of time to kind of like get the
emotions of the game. Got a great loss there, do something.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
I got a great look for a team leader, you
know that kind of But I mean, look, and I've
seen some of the greats of the game, guys that
are Hall of famers, you know, like you have LeVar,
totally lose their composure, cry, scream, you know, wreck the
locker room, break stuff, fight others.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
I mean, it's football, for God's sakes, But these are
things that that we try to keep. Uh because it's
a team, because it's a team sport, you know. But
uh but but you know, I mean the whole Caleb
Williams thing. He's becoming about as much of an individual
as you can be while playing a team sport. And
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it's happened this year. And I don't think it's up
to US's benefit. I don't think anybody could argue.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do you think that's a Nile driven.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
You know, I don't even know. Uh, you know, it's
the yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
The NIL thing confuses me so much because, like you
see these dinners that they have like at USC and
it's like all these people that I know that get invited,
like cool peace people, and they're all there talking about
the NI L or having a conversation about the NIL
And it's like, unless you're super rich, why are you involved, right,
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unless you're going to give them a million dollars to
give to some of the players, you know, what, what
are you doing showing up in an NIL event?
Speaker 10 (37:20):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I don't understand, right, And I know it's not pay
to play necessarily, but it totally is. And if let's
say Caleb Williams said, well, I've done everything I could,
I'm going to shut it down, you know, something that
like maybe some ill advised advice from like Acho or something.
Let's say he took that, you know, and and upset
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absolutely because gms and stuff want to see you finish
a season. But let's say he did that, would the
NIL still people still pay him? Would they have to?
You know, I don't, I don't understand. It's such a
wild West. The schools aren't involved, but they are. You know,
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it's uh, let's just say it's it's less confusing than
than nuclear math. But other than that, it's it's pretty
It's hieroglyphic to me.
Speaker 10 (38:15):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Petris Papadegas joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So,
p I gotta ask you. Colorado made a move. Deon
Sanders made a move this past week. Lewis, Yeah, what
do you make of that? Because this was a guy
you're trying to.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Protect his son and reflect some of the blame of
the offense on his son.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
Who's I mean, changing.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
The play caller is not going to change the old
line or the identity of the team that you've created already.
You know, you got that guy away from Kent State,
where he was a head coach and a relatively successful
one in the MAC. He was doing quite well, and
he takes that job to be your play caller, and
you embarrass him and strip him of his duties mid
season because your son's limping around. I mean, I I
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that's that's how I read it. But it's a race
to the finish to see who's going to come apart
at the seams worse. Colorado or USC is the season
goes off, which is amazing, right, But.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
What what's the most surprising part?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I remember that game and you had everybody there and
everybody was on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
And everybody celebrities, right, everybody the chip.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
What's the most what's the most surprising part of the
USC demise this year?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Is it just the I mean, I just guess, you know,
just to be that susceptible to the run as a
USC college football team is amazing. And you know, I
we we lost you know, five games or more. You know,
a couple times when I was at USC, we were terrible,
But you couldn't run power on us seven times in
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a row.
Speaker 10 (39:56):
You know, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Our problems were on offense.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
And my god, Carson Palmer was our quarterback. But I mean,
you just like, that's not the sport I grew up in.
If you play at USC and they run power down
your throat like that and just make you quit physically,
and a running back that no one has ever heard of,
(40:20):
because Washington barely runs the ball comes out and has
like a Charles White OJ Simpson game against you, then
you're not playing USC footballs. You're you're not you know.
I remember we I called a game a couple of
years back, play Hilton's era, and it was Oregon State
(40:40):
se Oregon State won their first game in the coliseum since,
like I think forever, and they had two big tight ends,
Teagan Quatriano and Luke Musk greg Rave I think both
are in the NFL now us he didn't even have
a tight end or practice against tight ends, and Oregon
State ran them over like three hundred yards rushing maybe more.
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And I remember driving home and my teammates, guys I
played with, they don't contact me very much, would you?
Speaker 10 (41:09):
I mean, I'm awful, but.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
I remember, you know, especially about football, you know. But
I remember driving home that night and guys on the team.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
Being like, were we that bad?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You know?
Speaker 10 (41:20):
Could would that?
Speaker 6 (41:21):
And I said, well no, not in that way, Like
you couldn't run, You couldn't just humiliate by pulling guards
and running the ball on us and just basically pitting
us down and laughing at us in front of our
home fans. And that's what's been happening to USC week
in and week out. Hell, I did U see Colorado
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last year? Colorado had like a half of a win
last year, but they ran the ball on s see,
you know, and to me, that's, you know, just this
weird seven on seven style that USC and Colorado are playing,
which is going out of style in the world world
of football. I mean, Mike Gundhy is the guy that
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used to play faster than anybody, and he's getting in
the I formation, getting under center, and they have a
back running for three hundred yards a game in Oklahoma
State and they're not I mean, I did that team
twice at the beginning of the season. They built into that,
they grew into that playing together and being physical. They
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got beat by South Alabama. They got their ass kicked
at home by South Alabama. This year, they went up
to Iowa State and lost to a decimated Iowa State
team and ames. But they continue to run the ball,
they continue to believe in each other. They hunkered down
and they became a team. Say what you will about
Mike Gundhy, but that's the most consistent guy in all
of football, and it's not even close. And it's amazing
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what he does it with and how And then you
sit there and look at sc and all the offseason
hype and all the bs. They just kind of shrug
my shoulders and say, if you can't stop people from
running the ball on you over and over and over again,
none of it means anything. So to me, that's you know,
I mean, it's that's not only egregious, it's it's almost like,
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you know, building a house and not building plumbing.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
He's just blowing it out all over the floor. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Petros Papadaki is.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you could hear on the blow towards AM five
to seventy l A Sports. He is a Fox College
football analyst. And by the way, p before lets you go,
you got two games you're doing this weekend right for Fox?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Yeah, we have a we have a Saturday. Saturday is
a Big twelve game, sort of a middling Big twelve game,
Houston hosting Cincinnati, a couple of nude Big twelve teams
and Houston just got a win though at over Baylor.
And then on Friday night exciting Mountain West matchup Wyoming
(43:51):
at UNLV. Both teams pretty good in the Mountain West
this year, still with title hopes.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
So oh yeah, there it is. Yeah, at the Old
p x or Twitter.
Speaker 10 (44:00):
Well, thank you, LeVar, I appreciate it. You guys, absolutely all.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Right, p We'll do it again soon. You're the best.
Speaker 10 (44:06):
Hey, where's big Head.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
He's off.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
The day's gonna I'm gonna travel day.
Speaker 10 (44:13):
It was nice talking to you guys.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
This is there you can help On Monday, Jonas and
we are
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Right there is the Great Pets Ross Papadegas here on
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Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So you're in Pa.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
How we feel in my I'm in my mecca? You know,
I'm in my mecca.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now are you in State College yet? Are you in
the Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm at Stake, I'm in the I'm in the football
I'm in the last building right now? Yeah, yeah, yes,
the Lord has entered the College State otherwise known as
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State College, Pennsylvania eight one four last building. He is here,
he has returned. Hey him College Football Hall of Famer.
On the walls, the hollow, the walls that you walk
(01:06):
down that none of the current players, even though if
you were walking in front of them, who you are. Nonetheless,
we are on the wall outside of the door.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
There's a little bit of a little hint of Jamaican
in there.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I heard, Oh, well, you know Jamaican is britt you
know that's England. Yeah, it's got a little bit of
English in it, you know, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
A little bit of that.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Well, listen, you know it is going to be a
fun ride here for the next couple of hours. We're
going to get more into what is happening there in
State College. Potentially you could be missing a key member
of the opponent coming out this weekend there for the
Michigan Wolverines. We'll have more on that later on, but
we've got to start with what was seen to be
(01:51):
a long shot initially once the incident took place and
the injury took place, and that was the Aaron Rodgers
tearing of the Achilles, and people just sort of looked
at it and said, all right, well, he's going to
be done for the year, and that's that. We're gonna
go ahead and move on to some other things. And instead,
Rogers continues to make progress, rapid progress, unlike anything we've
(02:14):
ever seen. You've documented this and we've talked about it, LeVar.
You've gone through the Achilles injury yourself. You know how
daunting of a task that is. So to see him
even out there throwing walking around no crutches, just a
few weeks after the injury took place is impressive. So
Rogers was on with the Pat McAfee show starring Ajayhawk.
(02:37):
There was an incident that was caught on camera at
the end of the game on Monday night where he
was talking with Derwin James of the Chargers, and Derwin
James was asking him something along the lines of when
can we see you back when he come back, and
he said, give me a few weeks. And so people
look to that is, well, you got a whole half
of the season left.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Could we see.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Rogers before the end of the year. And so he
talked about those comments to Derwin James yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Let's take it away.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Let's hear he came over, damned me up during during
the game and good to see him after the game.
I didn't realize that was gonna get caught there. I mean,
obviously that was said with a little tongue in cheek there.
It'd be nice to be able to be back in
a couple of weeks. That's probably not anywhere near a
realistic timeline, but a couple is, you know, could be
be a few, could be a lot of It's more
(03:25):
of a phrase that didn't have a specific timetable. But yeah,
I said, it's smiling joking. You know, he was talking
about how you know, he's excited for me to get
back on the field. At some point I joked it
be a few weeks, but obviously it's gonna be more
than a couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
So a couples to a few three ye rush, I'm
aware of this, right, So I'm just saying it's.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Gonna be it's gonna be a few, it's gonna be
a few, a few fortnights, so it'll be a few fortnights.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
That's the latest from Aaron Rodgers discussing his potential return this.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Year for the Jets. Okay, so what's your angle on this.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I think that if it's late in the year, what
we saw on Monday Night, they're not a playoff team,
and I don't believe that they're going to be in
contention to be a playoff team by the time he's
ready to come back. But the thinking would be, well,
if they're not a playoff team, why would he even
bother coming back at that point? And I think that
(04:25):
Rogers has got two things going on here. One, he
hopes they're in contention so if he comes back, he
can play meaningful games and maybe the make.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
To the postseason.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And two, I think he's dead set on proving people
wrong because what happened over the past couple of years.
Everybody questioning his comments about whether it be the vaccine,
his way of getting better, his idea of how to
get the mind and the body right. Like he's got
all sorts of things that seemed to be very controversial
(04:54):
because they go against big Pharma and so on and
so forth. I think he sees this as an opportunity
in saying, while everybody's going down this path, I'm going
to take this new surgery path that hasn't been done before,
and I'm going to prove all of you guys wrong,
just like I've been trying to do for the past
couple of years. I think there's two battles here. Are
they going to be a playoff team? And can I
(05:17):
prove some people wrong. I don't think they'll be a
playoff team, But if he's got an opportunity to prove
somebody wrong, even if it's the final game of the
regular season and they're eliminated, we're going to see Rogers
back on the field.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
You know. I could see that being a goal of
his for the reasons that you said, give the people
something to be excited for, even after they're not they're
not competitive to make it to the playoffs, Like I
could see that, give them, give them something excited exciting
(05:49):
for the off season and about him in particular for
the off season. All he needs to do is get
back out there, have a pretty decent game, and he
gets his teammates, and he gets the fan base, and
probably you could say the media, the local media for certain,
(06:10):
a lot to write about and a lot to talk
about going into the off season. That would be and
I hope I'm not being out of line or disrespectful
for saying this, that would seem to be very Aaron
Rodgers esque to do something that would actually galvanize and
dominate the headlines in the off season, whether it be
(06:34):
going down into the Hobbit Hole or going on you know, getaway,
you know in the wilderness with your girl and cliff
diving and stuff like that, like whatever it may may be.
He seems to do a great job of staying relevant
during the off season. So I would not say that
(06:54):
that is far fetched as a theory. I, however, will
say I do believe it's still far fetched to think
that he would be able to return from that injury
so quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I mean, it's kind of wild that it's even a
possibility like that we're even having a legitimate conversation.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, but do we really know that it's a possibility.
Like I understand he's ahead of schedule, and I understand
that he's throwing the ball around and all that good stuff,
but throwing the ball around, and to that point, I
don't want to diminish how phenomenal it is him being
moving around up on his feet the way that he is,
because that is pretty phenomenal. But with that being said,
(07:38):
there's a very different tone to how your body has
to move when it's under duress in a football game
versus just throwing the ball around and walking around. That's
two very drastically different ways of moving your body. I
just think that it's not realistic and I don't think
(08:00):
it's reasonable to think that that's a real possibility. Now, Listen,
I don't you don't you definitely, in my if I
recall correctly my recollection, you don't risk re injuring the
Achilles tendon that's been repaired. When if you once you
(08:20):
get back out there, and if you get back out
there so early from whatever it is that you're doing,
I would say the only real risk that that you
have is hurting something else because you're overcompensating for a
body part that isn't fully back to where it needs
to be.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So it's not like an ACL to where we've seen
guys reinjure the ACL, like Odell Beckham or some of
these other guys.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
No, you can re injure your Achilles tendon. You can
re injure an ACL, but it would most likely be
a new a new injury. It would be a new injury.
I don't. I don't if I were call correctly, It's
not like it's supposed to be repaired and be strong,
(09:04):
the same thing with an ACL, that one's a tendant
and one's a ligament. I would assume that the tendon
is repaired and it's probably more sturdy than the ligament,
the ACL ligament, or any other ligament that you would
be getting replaced in your knee. But I would assume
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that if you were to re injure your knee or
re injure your Achilles tendon, that still would be categorized
as a new injury, not an injury like Okay, you
came back and it wasn't fully healed, and so it
was re injured. That way, if you were to rupture
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your your Achilles tendon again on the same on the
same achilles heill. I would assume that that is a
new injury. But what's more likely to happen when you
have that type of injury take place is that you're
going to compensate in other areas. So his hip might
start hurting, his lower back might start hurting. His other
(10:13):
knee might start hurting. My back the same my neck
and my back the same side. Knee might might start hurting,
like something might, something will. Most likely, in fact, right now,
he's probably dealing with pains in other parts of his
body right now, right now, just off of the compensation
of his body trying to balance out.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I mean, who isn't though, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That's very true. You know, like my ankle is sore
right now, same one that I was dealing with. It's
just sore. It's just sore.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Also, those steps you have to walk up to get
to the private jet are pretty steep from what I hear,
So that would make some sense that.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I didn't use a private jet. But I am a
I am a dreamliner guy. You ever use a dreamliner?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
What's a dreamliner?
Speaker 3 (11:01):
So dreamliners? Are you have your own? Like I didn't
have my own pod? So to speak. It wasn't like
a pod pod dreamliner like the Big Boys, but it was.
It was a decent dreamliner where you have like a
fully you got a big screen TV and then you
know your seat fully reclines and stuff like that, and
you do you kind of have a partition away from
(11:22):
the person sitting next to you. But in some of
those some dreamliners you actually could sit with like somebody,
like a companion, and and it's like almost like a
privacy privacy chair.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
I'm looking at it right now. It looks like a cubicle. Right,
that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, they're pretty dope. So that's when I drive. When
I fly to the East Coast, I always fly on
a Dreamliner. Damn. Yeah, I don't mess around. Yeah, So
I feel good, I feel rested, I feel ready to go,
and and for once, for once, because I do complain,
(12:00):
not complaining, but for once, I started the trip and
I finished the trip without without any type of any
real yeah, any real things situations planning out where I
missed my flight or we were on the jet way
for an hour and a half. It all worked out.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So you know what that means on the way back,
you're screwed. Yeah, you're you're gonna run it all sorts
of issues on the way back. That's usually how this
stuff works. But look, I mean, I I think the
fact that we're even having this discussion about Rogers potentially
making a return, I think it's fascinating. I would love
to see it, just because I would love to see
(12:39):
if it opens up the doors to earlier returns because
of the injury, because somebody took the risk and being
the first one to do it. To me, that's that's evolution,
that's progress, that's you know, medicine advancing all of that stuff.
I would be really interested to see how it plays out.
And I just wonder final game of the season is
(13:00):
January seventh, all right, So we are basically two months
away from the final game of the season, which I
believe is going to be the last opportunity for him
to play because I just don't see this team being
a playoff team based on all the other issues they have,
and they're at New England potentially Belichick's final game as
a Patriots coach, and we get Rogers making his return.
I'm just saying there is some potential there, So that
(13:23):
could be something for Aaron Rodgers and the New York Jets.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
There you go, coming up for the final one.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I guess it. If it works out, it's a feel
good story. People can get excited about it and look
at you know, what what's to come and what they're
looking forward to, and and you get a feel good
story that Aaron Rodgers is one hundred percent in tune
with his body to the effect of where he would
be able to pull off getting back as quickly as
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he did.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Listen, if this was Deshaun Watson, we wouldn't see him
till twenty thirty. So the fact that we're even at
this point with Rogers just shows it.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
But Deshaun came back and play really Sunday, so there
you go. It's great. So he's back in the mix toog.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It'st that that vaunted Cardinals team which is currently projected
to pick first in the NFL Draft.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
So good stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
There.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
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Speaker 4 (14:26):
So couple of quarterback updates and a head coaching update
or rumor is probably the better word to use there.
Rumor as far as the head coach goes. Carson Wentz
is back, right, He is back, all right. He has
not played since last year, but Carson Wentz is back.
He will serve his backup to Matt Stafford in LA.
(14:48):
So kind of interesting that that was the spot and
the destination that he chose. But Brett Rippin filled in
for Matt Stafford this past weekend in Green Bay and
it was a diaper fire performance. Not well did he
perform at all? And they got just completely manhandled by
a bad Green Bay Packer team in lambeau Field. And
(15:10):
so the La Rams decided, we've got to make a move,
and so Carson Wentz his back and he will servece
back up to Matt Stafford with the Rams there. So
I don't know where that lands with you are if
you even.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Care, Yeah, listen, I care because it's it's football season,
and it's football. The Rams are a team that obviously
is not doing very well this year, and it's it's
sad because Aaron Donald is still wrecking games and still
playing at a very very high level.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
And did you see that. I'm sorry, but did you
see the video. There's a clip online where he's getting
double teamed by two Packers offensive linemen and splits him,
gets around and makes a play like runs down the
back out of the backfield and it's like they're not
even there. It's just like he's he's that good still
(16:07):
at this stage of his career.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, he's still that good. And and that that lead
gets buried by the losing, and then you start to
ask yourself the question of what does that mean for
mcveigh's future in in Los Angeles? Because this is two
years straight where this team is is underperforming, and and
(16:30):
so you look at Carson Wentz being brought in at
this at this juncture in time, what what are we
expecting from Carson Wentz on a three to win team?
I mean, if we're being honest, what what exactly would
(16:50):
the expectation be for Carson Wentz if, by chance he
takes over as the starting quarterback of this team? I mean,
what are you looking for? Right? Because I mean, let's
look at their schedule. They have the Seahawks that's going
to be a tough one for them. They have the
(17:11):
Cardinals that that's their evenly match. But then you have
the Browns. That's a gifted defense there and and now
they're playing they'll probably be better on offense. Then they have
the Ravens that could be the hottest team in football
right now. They have the Commanders, which the Commanders are
always a threat. They're not. You're not going to look
(17:34):
at them and say that's a that's a given loss.
But you're not going to look at the Commanders and
say that's a given win either. The Saints are improving
the Giants now who knows, and then they have the
forty nine Ers, right, So out of all those games,
you have one, two, three, out of the game's remaining,
(17:57):
there's like and one of those three is a pot possible.
The Commander's game is a possible. So you have two
games that you should win and a possible that you
could win.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
And also you mentioned the Cardinals with Kyler Murray back
as we've talked about and you've talked.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
About, could get better.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, that's not a shit prove like, that's not I mean, he.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Makes them better by himself. He makes that team all
the way better and we.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
Know they play hard. So yeah, we could be looking
at a four or five win team.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
At the end of this whole thing, six tops, Yeah,
six wins tops. So when you look at that, what
exactly are we supposed to say about Carson Wentz Carson Wentz.
If Carson Wentz were to come into this scenario and
give them more than three wins and he was the
starter for that, then then it's a different conversation at
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the point in time that he gets the four wins,
five wins, you know, whatever it may be. And you're
talking about one of the I mean, he would have
to be up for Comeback Player of the Year I think.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
And just the big picture, we're basically staring at the
end of this RAMS era square in the eyes.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
It's over, and Carson Wentz's career. I mean, if you're
gonna if the segment is about Carson Wentz, you're not
only looking at the end of an era for the
La Rams where they're gonna have to at some point
take a good, heart long look at what they're going
to do to move into the future. But you're gonna
you're gonna look at careers like Carson Wentz and you're
(19:29):
gonna be like, you know, this is what it is,
Like we need a quarterback to back up this guy.
We'll bring him in. He's going to be a traveler.
He'll move around, he might not play much at all.
He might get called in due to an injury, this, that,
and the other, and before long he'll disappear.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Now, the other piece of quarterback news we should get
to is the Tennessee Titans have determined they'd like to
get more of a look of Will Levis. They'd like
Will loves go ahead and yeah, imagine that after the
past two performances. Here was Mike Able, the head coach
of the Titans, talking about the decision to switch to
Levis as a starting quarterback moving.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Forward, going forward, you know, Will's gonna be our quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
We're gonna go with Will.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
We think that's the best opportunity for our football team
right now. And you know, see where he's at. I
think Ryan will progress through here this week. I think,
you know, to be a backup for us and prepare
as a starter. But that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I think about it. We're pulling ten in hill, pulling him,
So that's a big move. Like they're moving into the
future with their team, and Will Levis is seemingly the guy.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
I mean everything, You've seen it, and we talked about
it last Friday after the Thursday night game against Pittsburgh,
Like the numbers maybe weren't there in the box score. Oh,
and he threw that late interception, but he's trying to
make a play. But if you just look at how
composed he is, how much more dynamic the offense seems
with him at quarterback, this is a no brainer. Like
(20:58):
I mean, if I'm Mike Rabel, if I'm a Titans fan,
I'm really excited about what this is going to look
like moving forward. Because this is somebody who you know,
slipped in the draft. There was all sorts of stuff
about him and you know, work ethic or whether people
got along with him, and instead he waited his turn,
he got his opportunity. He completely you know, lit it
(21:19):
up the week before through the four touchdowns and then
he went on the road in Pittsburgh against that defense
and had an opportunity at potentially winning that game. To me,
if I'm Mike rabelin on the Titans, this was a
no brainer the whole way through.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Well, guys are getting getting some yards now, Phillips getting
yards as d hop if he's happy about having will
Levis in there as opposed to any other quarterback there,
and he'd probably tell you, hell yes. So you're building
the confidence of your players around you on the offense
right now because they believe in will Lefis, will Levis
(21:56):
and his ability to deliver what he's delivering. So I
think it's a You know, Mike, we've talked about AP
and Antonio Piers during this show. Mike vrabel is like
an original Antonio pears right, like he's he's one of
those guys who played in the league, played linebacker, heart
(22:16):
knows guy. But as a player's coach, he relates to
his players, He cares about his players. His players know
that he cares about him, and the things that he
does is very interactive and very very just just connected
to what what the environment of the culture is in
(22:37):
in Tennessee. So I don't think he's lost that. I
don't think he's lost this locker room in any shape
or form any way. And and so what he's going
to do, he's going to continue to try to build
for the future. We heard the rumors of what could
possibly happen with trading Henry or anything like that. Uh,
they've been in some some transition as a of years late.
(23:01):
I'm trying to figure out where where to go because
they have not been able to get over the hump
with ten and Hill at at at the quarterback's position.
So you get in Levis. Levis has that big arm.
He's showing that he's learning the game. He's adjusting and
adapting to the NFL game, and it looks like he's
adjusting and adapting nicely to it.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
You want to why here another rumor that's out there.
Let's hear the Tennessee Titans. Let's hear Javar Arrington I
have in my hands right here.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, let me hear it.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah, Okay, what you got the Boston Globe?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Okay, what does the Boston Globe have to do with Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (23:39):
According to the Boston Globe, two sources close to the
New England Patriots, okay view Mike Rabel and Nick Cassario
the Texans GM as their quote unquote home run targets
to replace Bill Belichick.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (23:59):
What do you think about it?
Speaker 8 (23:59):
That?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
For the me I've been saying for the last couple
of years, does Bill Belichick's seat get hot. Everybody says
he's sitting on a glacier and there's no way that
he could lose his job, and this and that and
the other. Doesn't sound like that's continuing to be the
main theme and story of what's taking place in New England.
Sounds like people are getting a little bit restless and
(24:22):
getting a little tired of what they're seeing take place.
And there you know, at some point, there comes a
point in time where you got to think about it.
Is there going to be some necessary changes made?
Speaker 2 (24:32):
You ever felt underappreciated at your house?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Almost like the only time the only time you hear
from people is when you do something wrong or they're
unhappy with you, Like it's it's never like it.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
If you're and that's all the time.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, And you know, like if you're one of the
people out there that are listening, going, yeah, I feel
the same way. In fact, you left early to go
to work in to go work early just because you
wanted to get out of the house fifteen minutes sooner
because you were tired of getting ridiculed.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
If you're listening to this, you can really with Bill.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Belichick for all he's done for that organization in the
past two decades and everybody wants him out, like we've
all how quickly we've forgotten how great that organization has been.
And now you got the Boston Globe writing up articles
talking about Mike Vrabel and Nick Cassario taking over the job.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Hey, you know what was it spelled backwards?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Saul? Damn? If you was doing well, if you was
getting it done, and that was continues to be a was,
you're gonna have to flip that word around. You're gonna
have to sell that. You're gonna have to saw it off.
So just be careful when you would you become AZ,
(25:43):
when you that was for too long, You're gonna have
to deal with the saw.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I'm a I'm a Bill Belichick guy, So I hope
you wait to sol thing out. In fact, I hope
Bill Belichick tells Robert Kraft, I dare you to fire me?
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I dare you to fire me? Okay, anything else?
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And you know what if Bill Belichick does get fired,
you know what does she do on his on his
exit press conference?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Do you do he should say?
Speaker 4 (26:09):
You know what, I think I'm gonna take some time
to myself. I'm gonna go hang out at you know,
a massage parlor in Jupiter, Florida, and just go ahead
and just take my time there. Just real petty, nice,
little nice, little to the ribs of rubber craft, you know,
something a little dig inside there, little bodywork dig inside.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, yeah, go have fun with that.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Thank you, coach.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
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Speaker 2 (27:52):
Good morning, what's happening.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Good morning everybody, Hello morning, Hello, LaVar, Hey, good morning,
good morning.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
So, uh, Petros Lvar has been getting some pushback from
people on social media.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
LeVar, you want to explain.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Why I don't have no problems with that's my former teammate.
I have no problems with with RC, and I know
there's been interesting back back and forth between him and Q,
but I don't have it, you know, they're saying, I
got to pick a side. You know, it is what
it is. But anyway, I made mention of I had
(28:27):
an opinion on Caleb Williams.
Speaker 10 (28:31):
Uh mother's arms.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Jumping into the stands to cry in his mother's arms.
What what what was your take on it? Like? Did
you have a takeaway from it? Did you think nothing
of it at all? Like I've been getting a little
pushback on my.
Speaker 10 (28:43):
Mind, Well what was your take?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
LeVar?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I think there's a time and place for everything, and
I just think the you know, the fabric of what
football is is built on and based on is turning
young young boys and young guys into men. It's it's
almost it's the closest thing to being in the military
without being in the military.
Speaker 10 (29:08):
It's a man's game.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
And so to me, it's it's you know, a lot
of people were giving me flak in terms of basically
saying that it comes across as insensitive or you know,
I'm I'm the reason why young men have mental health
issues because I'm basically saying, uh, you know, take your
motions and bury them away, tuck them away. Listen, I
(29:32):
didn't I see what you did there? You can you
can go into the animals and see. When we lost
the Minnesota my last year in school, I was my
dad had to come get me out of the locker room.
I collapsed to the ground. What's the keyword there? Out
of the locker room. Exactly out of the locker room.
So there's a time and a place for everything. But
(29:52):
what what's your take on it?
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Well, uh, I was a lot more and not like
I get upset about these things, but I was not.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Clearly, I was not upset. I was not perturbed by
him doing what. You know, a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Weren't look like you know, I mean, if it was
a Penn State guy, you know a lot of people
you would start to know, like, wow, all these people
are upset, you know, like I'm a USC guy. So
a lot of people were upset about it, Like a
lot of people that never even played football were upset
about it. I did not like the Utah one right
(30:26):
where he sat there and looked super dejected, knowing that
all the cameras are on him, had to show them
how disappointed he was, had to be coaxed off the
bench by one of those towel waving guys. And when
it comes to family. You never know what's going on
in someone's family, you know, and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
So and I said that, of course, I'm not saying
if somebody was sick, like if his mom was sick
or somebody sick in the family, I would apologize profusely
in terms of having to take that I did because
I do not know if there was any other circumstances
connected to him doing that outside of the game. But
if I'm keeping it, if I make the the opinion
(31:11):
and I'm keeping it, apples to apples, it's because you
lost this game. I thought it was a bad look.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Yeah, there was a lot of people that would say,
I mean, they don't want to say it in public,
but they would say, you know, after the Utah thing
and after you know, the nail painting and all the
different things that have been reported and some of the
things he said, especially recently, that.
Speaker 10 (31:34):
It was performative.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
But I mean, look, to me, it's always a general
rule of thumb if I was a coach, or if
anybody asked me my advice, it's get up the tunnel
when the game is over, especially if you lose. If
you know somebody on the other team or somebody recruited you,
or there's somebody to give a hug to, go ahead
(31:57):
and do that. If you're too pissed off to shake hands,
that's okay too. Get up the tunnel. Get up the tunnel,
Get up the tunnel. Don't you're done playing, You're you're
on a team. It's not about you as an individual,
even though as much as it is when the game
is over and you've lost, get up the tunnel. That
(32:19):
that would always be my message when I was an
older player. Look after my very first football game, I
thought I had been through a lot, most of it
self inflicted. Uh, not my very first game, but my
very first game, I scored a touchdown in You know,
I remember crying in my well, my father's arms, you know,
in the tunnel, out out, you know, in in and
(32:42):
out of the locker room after the game, in the tunnel.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
What did your dad say to you?
Speaker 10 (32:47):
You nothing? You know, it was just an emotional moment.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
You loser.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
No, Uh it that to me? You know that that's
just And it doesn't have to be Caleb Williams. It
could be anybody. Get get up the tunnel. But it
is amazing how the equity of faith and love that
(33:14):
was raining down upon Caleb Williams nationally and locally in
many ways has evaporated. Uh, and mostly because of just
the overall USC football teams play, and it is a
team sport. You know, he is a great individual player,
but I don't know if playing to his individual talents
(33:34):
has really helped us he develop as a team the
last couple of years. I mean, they were eleven and
what they won eleven games last year and or they
they are falling to pieces and it's it's going to
be hard to see where the next victory is coming from.
They're going up to Eugene. You know they're gonna have
(33:56):
to play a tough UCLA team. You know, this is
not this is not to be pretty because they've lost
their motivation for a national title. This guy still might
win a Heisman, but it's not a great scene over there.
And I agree with you. To me, it's something that
should be up the tunnel. But when it's a family thing.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
You never know.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
But uh, you know that's a that was some serious sobbing.
It was some real shoulder shaking.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, oh man, belly belly ache and belly move. And
I just listen, tell me this because I've asked every
football player that I've talked to since this happened, and
asked a question, how many times have you not seen
your family when you come out of the locker room
when they're at the game. How many times has your
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family came to a game and did not come see
you when you came up out of that locker room.
Speaker 10 (34:50):
My grandmother, the great Angie Papadakis, Uh.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Okay, they God let rest her soul. They used to
bring boxes of a the little soldiers, you know. They
we owned liquor stores when I was a kid. Uh
and uh, you know I I your grandma compete, Yes
she did, And I got twelve little bottles of freaking
Johnny Walker red to show, you know, and we'd be
(35:15):
on the plane, you know, and enjoy that.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
You know.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
What I'm saying is, yes, your family is always there.
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
You never There's not been one time you did not
see them when you came out with your people. Don't
understand that he sweatsuit on right. That's and that's my point, like,
if you know all of the inner workings of all
of this, that's something that you you'd have more than
enough time to weep in your mom's arms and on
her shoulder, and with your dad and your family. Get
(35:44):
to like you said, get to and they teach you this.
Get to the locker room, collect your thoughts. They don't
let the media right in because they give you a
little bit of time to kind of like get the
emotions of the game. Got a great loss there, do something.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
I got a great look for a team leader, you
know that kind of But I mean, look, and I've
seen some of the greats of the game, guys that
are Hall of famers, you know, like you have LeVar,
totally lose their composure, cry, scream, you know, wreck the
locker room, break stuff, fight others.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
I mean, it's football, for God's sakes, But these are
things that that we try to keep. Uh because it's
a team, because it's a team sport, you know. But
uh but but you know, I mean the whole Caleb
Williams thing. He's becoming about as much of an individual
as you can be while playing a team sport. And
(36:34):
it's happened this year. And I don't think it's up
to US's benefit. I don't think anybody could argue.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Do you think that's a Nile driven.
Speaker 10 (36:43):
You know, I don't even know. Uh, you know, it's
the yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
You know.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
The NIL thing confuses me so much because, like you
see these dinners that they have like at USC and
it's like all these people that I know that get invited,
like cool peace people, and they're all there talking about
the NI L or having a conversation about the NIL
And it's like, unless you're super rich, why are you involved, right,
(37:10):
unless you're going to give them a million dollars to
give to some of the players, you know, what, what
are you doing showing up in an NIL event?
Speaker 10 (37:20):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
I don't understand, right, And I know it's not pay
to play necessarily, but it totally is. And if let's
say Caleb Williams said, well, I've done everything I could,
I'm going to shut it down, you know, something that
like maybe some ill advised advice from like Acho or something.
Let's say he took that, you know, and and upset
(37:42):
absolutely because gms and stuff want to see you finish
a season. But let's say he did that, would the
NIL still people still pay him? Would they have to?
You know, I don't, I don't understand. It's such a
wild West. The schools aren't involved, but they are. You know,
(38:03):
it's uh, let's just say it's it's less confusing than
than nuclear math. But other than that, it's it's pretty
It's hieroglyphic to me.
Speaker 10 (38:15):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Petris Papadegas joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So,
p I gotta ask you. Colorado made a move. Deon
Sanders made a move this past week. Lewis, Yeah, what
do you make of that? Because this was a guy
you're trying to.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
Protect his son and reflect some of the blame of
the offense on his son.
Speaker 10 (38:32):
Who's I mean, changing.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
The play caller is not going to change the old
line or the identity of the team that you've created already.
You know, you got that guy away from Kent State,
where he was a head coach and a relatively successful
one in the MAC. He was doing quite well, and
he takes that job to be your play caller, and
you embarrass him and strip him of his duties mid
season because your son's limping around. I mean, I I
(39:00):
that's that's how I read it. But it's a race
to the finish to see who's going to come apart
at the seams worse. Colorado or USC is the season
goes off, which is amazing, right, But.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
What what's the most surprising part?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I remember that game and you had everybody there and
everybody was on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
And everybody celebrities, right, everybody the chip.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
What's the most what's the most surprising part of the
USC demise this year?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Is it?
Speaker 6 (39:34):
Is it just the I mean, I just guess, you know,
just to be that susceptible to the run as a
USC college football team is amazing. And you know, I
we we lost you know, five games or more. You know,
a couple times when I was at USC, we were terrible,
But you couldn't run power on us seven times in
(39:55):
a row.
Speaker 10 (39:56):
You know, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Our problems were on offense.
Speaker 6 (39:59):
And my god, Carson Palmer was our quarterback. But I mean,
you just like, that's not the sport I grew up in.
If you play at USC and they run power down
your throat like that and just make you quit physically,
and a running back that no one has ever heard of,
(40:20):
because Washington barely runs the ball comes out and has
like a Charles White OJ Simpson game against you, then
you're not playing USC footballs. You're you're not you know.
I remember we I called a game a couple of
years back, play Hilton's era, and it was Oregon State
(40:40):
se Oregon State won their first game in the coliseum since,
like I think forever, and they had two big tight ends,
Teagan Quatriano and Luke Musk greg Rave I think both
are in the NFL now us he didn't even have
a tight end or practice against tight ends, and Oregon
State ran them over like three hundred yards rushing maybe more.
(41:04):
And I remember driving home and my teammates, guys I
played with, they don't contact me very much, would you?
Speaker 10 (41:09):
I mean, I'm awful, but.
Speaker 6 (41:12):
I remember, you know, especially about football, you know. But
I remember driving home that night and guys on the team.
Speaker 10 (41:18):
Being like, were we that bad?
Speaker 3 (41:20):
You know?
Speaker 10 (41:20):
Could would that?
Speaker 6 (41:21):
And I said, well no, not in that way, Like
you couldn't run, You couldn't just humiliate by pulling guards
and running the ball on us and just basically pitting
us down and laughing at us in front of our
home fans. And that's what's been happening to USC week
in and week out. Hell, I did U see Colorado
(41:41):
last year? Colorado had like a half of a win
last year, but they ran the ball on s see,
you know, and to me, that's, you know, just this
weird seven on seven style that USC and Colorado are playing,
which is going out of style in the world world
of football. I mean, Mike Gundhy is the guy that
(42:02):
used to play faster than anybody, and he's getting in
the I formation, getting under center, and they have a
back running for three hundred yards a game in Oklahoma
State and they're not I mean, I did that team
twice at the beginning of the season. They built into that,
they grew into that playing together and being physical. They
(42:23):
got beat by South Alabama. They got their ass kicked
at home by South Alabama. This year, they went up
to Iowa State and lost to a decimated Iowa State
team and ames. But they continue to run the ball,
they continue to believe in each other. They hunkered down
and they became a team. Say what you will about
Mike Gundhy, but that's the most consistent guy in all
of football, and it's not even close. And it's amazing
(42:46):
what he does it with and how And then you
sit there and look at sc and all the offseason
hype and all the bs. They just kind of shrug
my shoulders and say, if you can't stop people from
running the ball on you over and over and over again,
none of it means anything. So to me, that's you know,
I mean, it's that's not only egregious, it's it's almost like,
(43:07):
you know, building a house and not building plumbing.
Speaker 10 (43:12):
He's just blowing it out all over the floor. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Petros Papadaki is.
Speaker 4 (43:17):
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you could hear on the blow towards AM five
to seventy l A Sports. He is a Fox College
football analyst. And by the way, p before lets you go,
you got two games you're doing this weekend right for Fox?
Speaker 2 (43:28):
What are we looking at here?
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (43:30):
Yeah, we have a we have a Saturday. Saturday is
a Big twelve game, sort of a middling Big twelve game,
Houston hosting Cincinnati, a couple of nude Big twelve teams
and Houston just got a win though at over Baylor.
And then on Friday night exciting Mountain West matchup Wyoming
(43:51):
at UNLV. Both teams pretty good in the Mountain West
this year, still with title hopes.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
So oh yeah, there it is. Yeah, at the Old
p x or Twitter.
Speaker 10 (44:00):
Well, thank you, LeVar, I appreciate it. You guys, absolutely all.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Right, p We'll do it again soon. You're the best.
Speaker 10 (44:06):
Hey, where's big Head.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
He's off.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
The day's gonna I'm gonna travel day.
Speaker 10 (44:13):
It was nice talking to you guys.
Speaker 6 (44:16):
This is there you can help On Monday, Jonas and
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