November 13, 2023 • 38 mins
LaVar and Brady had boots on the ground at State College when it was announced Jim Harbaugh would not be allowed to coach. Michigan still handed Penn State a loss before they fired their OC, Mike Yurcich. CJ Stroud is primed to do something we haven’t seen since Jim Brown. Plus, a sticky situation at Monster Jam on “FSR IR.”
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I got to live vicariously through you guys because I
wasn't there, and majority of people listening to this right
now have to live vicariously through you guys, because I
don't know how this landed for anybody else on the
outside looking in. But Saturday and the build up for
Michigan Penn State there in State College and the is
Jim Harbaugh going to make it to the game? Will
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they get the temporary restraining order on the suspension for
the final three games of the season. It was Harbaugh Watch,
He's ten minutes away from the stadium, he can be there.
It was phenomenal television, Like I couldn't get enough of it,
and I'm just wondering, what was what was that place
like there at ground zero with all that drama going
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on even before the game kicked off.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I mean, var how do you view it from the
Penn State perspective of it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It was excitement, a ton of excitement. I think the
energy that I felt on Saturday before calling the game
was really an environment of happy Valley was going to
go crazy when not if when we beat Michigan in
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our stripeout game, you know, we had the Fighter Jets
fly over we I mean, we pulled out all the stops.
You know, there were a lot of a lot of
activations there. It was. It was a ton of excitement
and I think there was a no, I know, there
was a ton of optimism that you could feel like
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it was just very very heavy. The amount of energy
and electricity surrounding the game was, you know it was
it actually was so much. I think there was so
much fun being had that you could tell that the
stands hadn't even filled up by the kickoff, like they
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were still getting lubed up in the tailgates to go
in and watch Penn State win that game. So, you know,
it was it was a great atmosphere, was a great energy,
and it was certainly if you're a Penn State or
it was a great just as great a let down.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I can give you the perspective, like unbiased kind of
broadcast was we literally went into that day not knowing
what the show would really look like. I mean, so
once the once the tro the temporary strating order was
filed after Tony Pettiti, the commissioner for the Big Ten,
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came down with the suspension. There was various sources saying
that once they filed the t they thought that they
could get a judgment on it in time for Harbaugh
to be there on the sideline. And what became kind
of a twist to the story that was interesting was
Pat Kraft, the athletic director at Penn State, said, look, man,
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if he walks down, we're not getting in the way, Like,
we're not gonna put ourselves or inject ourselves into this
controversy where we're gonna bar Jim Harball from walk on
the sidelines even.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
If they don't get the TRORO through.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
So we're kind of sitting there on the outside saying, well,
our entire rundown, which is like our show game plan,
if you will, we don't really know what we're gonna
do because because of this decision. Now, that's obviously what
we're leading the show off with. But at any point
in time, they could get a ruling on this, potentially
allowing Harbaugh to be there, and then that's gonna change
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how you look at this thing. I mean, you're probably
trying to find cameras on horrorball coming into the stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know it's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Like a wol event, right, it's walking walking out from
behind like the villain.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And so meanwhile you're trying to do this the show.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Where like you're you're talking about all what's going on
in college football. There's a lot of big games that
were going on, and yet the centerpiece to all of
it was like, what's gonna happen with Jim Harbaugh and
how is this going to impact or not impact the game?
So it was one of the most interesting, I guess
shows that I've been a part of, only because for
the most part, studio shows are really scripted.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You know, eighty to ninety percent of.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
What you put in is getting in, you know, where
when you call a game, it's like eighty and ninety
percent of your prep goes out the window because once
the game starts, it starts, and there's injuries, and there's twists,
there's turns and things that you just have to follow
the game, and so you've got to be prepared in
everything else you do and prepared really to react. So
that was an instance where like it was you're like
(06:01):
kind of flying by the seat of your pants, with
each segment saying like, all right, what's with update?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Now, what's happening? Now?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
There is lawyers involved, right, there's people trying to give
you their legal interpretations. You're trying to understand legal interpretations,
you know, Like my thing was from the people that
I talked to who are attorneys, and then my experience
being a player during the lockout and wanted to educate myself.
Then on the granted kind of separate and how that
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worked out. But with filing injunctions is these sorts of
things do not clear themselves up fast.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Judges don't want to rule.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
On something that doesn't want even if it's some serious nature.
They don't want to make a judgment or ruling on
something without what they feel like is due process. And
what became the catchword or catchphrase over the course of
Friday Saturday was Michigan's not getting the due process they
deserve with the NCAA investigation and the Big ten and
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their punishment. And I think if you looked at the
judicial system, they didn't want to do that as well,
and so they weren't gonna rule on it. I know
everyone felt like they had the judges lined up and
they're you know, had Michigan backgrounds, and that's what was
gonna happen. It was never gonna happen, Like, that's that
sort of thing takes time, whether it was to flake
Gate or the lockout, like all all those sorts of
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decisions take time, and so I kind of was pretty
skeptical of Horriball ever being involved in any capacity and
was kind of thinking to myself like, at some point too,
as a head coach, you gotta sit back and go like,
am I being the distraction from my team by showing
up whether I can or cannot? Like at some point
the Hayes in the barn, I've got to let Shroon
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Moore do his job as the internim heead coach, and
my players and my staff focused the game plans in place.
It really just comes down to a few critical decisions
you're gonna make and some adjustments.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And that was what I.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Thought was kind of most interesting. But man, I'll tell
you this much, the atmosphere and Happy Valley is unique.
It's not it's unlike anything else I've been a part of.
Now going there two years in a row, the stripeout
is ridiculous. The fans, the students, ridiculous, the setting ridiculous.
I mean, it is one of the coolest places. And
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you see why people loving are so passionate about in
Varro y you are every time we go. I'm like,
that place is special. It really really is. So it
couldn't have been any bigger stakes along with the drama.
I know it's a long win a way of putting it,
but it was one of the coolest things that I've
really been a part of, I should say cool but
more unique things.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I've been a part of.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Interesting signage too as well, some of the messaging and some.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
By the way, dude, even Matt Canada can't get away
from fire There was probably four different fire Back Canada sides.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm like, geez, dude, I know we're in.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Pennsylvania, but like, like this poor guy can't even in
a big match up between Michigan and penn State.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He can't even get away there.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like I'm sending you, I said, you guys a picture
of it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But there was a sign Matt Lionerd's trying to make
a point and there's just signed behind him that just
said Jim Harbor cheats on his wife again.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No b being there, and just people letting it fly
before the game.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
And some of these signs they got to take down sometimes,
you know, depend on they trust me. There's some really
good signs that never make the light of day on TV.
So it's it's always fun to see what these these
kids come up with.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Man, let it fly during the game. About that, because
that was letting it fly during the game?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Go ahead, open up? Because I told you back when
they lost to Ohio State. I've watched this offense for
a period of years now with Mike Yersich, and people
were like, here's the realities. People were gonna get on
James Franklin for the management of that game, Like I thought,
going for too early, poor decision. It's fourteen to nine,
Like what's the point of going for two in the
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first half like that? That made no sense to me.
And then when they do decide to go for two,
and you can have a debate about you know, hey,
you're down what twenty four to fifteen at that point
does it make sense to go for two at that moment? Well, one,
your earlier decision to go for two ended up playing
an impact on that decision, and then the swinging gate,
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that's the play you go with I just like there
was so many times when I looked at the faulter
of Penn State and not being able to beat Ohio
State and win a Big Ten championship or beat Michigan
win a Big Ten championship. It had to do with
their offense. Last time they won the Big Ten championship,
Joe Moorehead was their play caller. He's phenomenal, and they
won the Beatlehiuse State and won the Big Ten one year.
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They lost by one the next year. Like he's the
head coach at Akron now, so you know it'd be
hard to maybe pry him away and get him back,
but it'd be worth giving him a call, man, like,
throw a bunch of money at him and see if
you could bring him back.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The quarterback, the talent.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
That team is too good offensively and defensively not to
miss this window of opportunity. And because I really do
feel like the decision that James Franklin made was in
part probably the pressure on him, but also much needed
and unfortunately too late for this season.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, it's too late. That's that's certainly, you know, certainly
the I mean the easy, easy response to it. I
just thought it was it was kind of you know,
you had a defense that was playing their hearts out
and listen the run. There were a couple of big
run plays that that they they allowed to happen during
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the game, but you know.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Largely they really well, let's be real, that's two years
in a row. Now, Michigan's just run the ball down
their throats. I mean they took not even at times
like they rushed for over tow hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's by far the most Penn States given up all year.
You push back and say, at times it was it
was not consistent. They weren't consistently running it down their throats.
It was there were moments like maybe the second half
or second quarter they had some really really good runs.
There were some good runs in the third, and maybe
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one or two a few in the fourth. I mean,
it was it wasn't like year before. It was not
like it was.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They didn't rush for four h yards, but year before, yeah,
they didn't rush for four hundred yards, but they they
surely those.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They didn't need to.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And I think that's actually probably the more damning thing
was when you rush for two hundred and twenty seven yards,
which is still a lot, and I don't care who
you are, and you've only given up I think on
average sixty per game before that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
That's four times almost your season. Yeah, and then and
by the way, you win thirty two straight running plays
with the exception of one DPI that you give up
for a first down. That that's it, though, Like that's
probably more damning than giving up fourner and eighteen last year.
It's that at home, you give up to the point
where it was a one dimensional team and you couldn't
stop it. So that's what I'd push back and say, Yeah,
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you might say there's a few big runs here and there,
but the reality is they never stopped them running the football.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
But the score was reflective of the opportunities. And I
still think that the defense played at a level that
one hundred percent. If the offense had did more that
it would have been it would have been a different game.
I mean, if you're going three and outs, you know,
as rapidly and as quickly as as Penn State was
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going and just not really showing any type of of hope.
Like there you looked at it and it was like
there wasn't like you're trying to figure out like me
and my couple of my former teammates, you know, we
were talking about it is like what is the what's
the game plan in this? In this? Like what are
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you looking at that one play didn't set up another play?
There was no real logic in the passing tree, like
what what what routes are they running? Like what what
are you setting up?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I'm glad you're saying this now because I texted this
to you earlier this season with my frustration because I
feel like they're wasting the offensive talents time.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's how I feel. Why was it was? I mean,
the stats don't lie and and and when you're talking
about your number one receiver, and this is just this
is me being being critical and being an analyst. This
isn't me being you know, a fan and a homer.
But when you look at KeAndre Lambert Smith and he
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has one catch for six yards, even even if you
call a bad game.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Had won for four, Well he had a little bit
more than that. He had one catch for one catch.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well yeah yeah, yeah, and it was and it was
a big and it was a big catch. Yeah, it
was a big catch. I thought you were talking about
the yard because you know, because they didn't have to
throw the ball in the second half of Michigan. But
I just I think being critical from a critical eye
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when you're when you're playing against a team like Michigan.
And by the way the way we were playing, the
way Penn State was playing early on, you could clearly
see that if there was some success that they had
that it could have been a good It could have
been a good day for Penn State. But they slowly,
they slowly allowed Michigan to gang confidence. They they made
(15:22):
some good plays some timely played JJ McCarthy. He probably
hurt us the most with his with his legs, more
so than even the running backs. And we just we
didn't win third downs well and and and it turned
into a what is our defense doing? Because we were
you know, there was not a lot of hope in
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what the offense was going to bring to the table.
So I don't know, man, he just felt really one
sided and lopsided.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I mean, I mean Korm did go for one hundred
and forty five and t tuddies, so I don't I mean,
JJ had a couple runs that that helped convert. But
I would say this, I thought Penn State was gonna
was gonna win that game. After Abdul Carter came up
and popped Blake Korn man, and I'll say this much,
(16:10):
that was one where when you watch that hit, and
I was right there on the sideline, I was probably
ten yards back from where the hit took place.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I thought Blake Korn was knocked out.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It looked like when he got popped, that ball came
out and he went kind of limp, and I was.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Watching to see how it was gonna be handled.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
And that's where like the dad in me comes out
as far as like player of safety, where I'm like, man,
you saw how busted up his face was after the
game that came on that hit, I'm pretty sure. And
I don't know if you got checked for a concussion
or not, but he definitely should have in that case
because it looked like it looked like he was kind
(16:48):
of dazed and confused out there for a minute before
obviously he was able to turn things back on. So
that was that point where I thought, man, Penn State's
got all the momentum, the crowd is nuts and it's
out and everything else, and it was just a slow,
methodical and you gotta give you gotta give Shrian more
credit because if you're an interim head coach, a play
caller online, like you could have easily said, hey, JJ
(17:12):
McCarthy has been opening things up this year.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
We could try to take some shots that he was
just like, no, like what would what would Jim Harball do?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Jim Harball would do exactly what he did and keep
playing it kind of tight, running the football, limiting possessions,
like just playing that same type of battling game. And
that was that was the thing that you know, shining
moment for me is seeing Scharan Moore, a guy who
got his opportunity. He did a great job in that instance,
and you could see the motions too, and he understood
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how big that win was.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I also thought it was crazy, though.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I thought it was nice that they bookended the broadcast
with curse Bombs on the air from Charles.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Woodson and then Shan Moore after the.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Game it was done.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Definitely, the most the most awkward thing that happened was
the flyover. Happened like they did must have done a
test run or something early. No, no, no, no, So they
did one when our show was on, probably about two
hours before the game kicked and Woodson at one point
just paused, was like looking up, looking around, like I
don't know if you thought there was an issue where
something was going on, but it was like, yeah, like
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we can hear it where we're at, but that doesn't
necessarily always make it onto air, and so he just
kind of pause, was looking around and like it. Then
it became so awkward. You had to acknowledge what was happening.
At least for the viewers at home.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You realized they were late. They were late, yeah, for
the national anthem. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about before that,
like two three Yeah, I saw him go by early,
but they were they were like two three men literally
like two or three minutes late flying Pie. After the
national anthem had finished up, I was like, oh god,
I hope this isn't you know Indica happen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Man, well it it was listen entertaining as hell to watch. Sorry, bar,
but at least you got some hoping on.
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It's a Monday tradition we report any injuries, issues, ailments
from a long weekend. We'll get that for you again
here on Fox Sports Radio. But we made mention of
this quickly earlier, but there is the potential of this
actually happening. We have not seen it since the nineteen fifties,
but a rookie winning MVP in the NFL and CJ.
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Stroud is, at least in the conversation, another fantastic performance, Jesse. Yeah,
it was a bad pick late, but engineered the game
winning drive for the Houston Texans to go down and
win that game in Cincinnati. He did it last week
as we mentioned and talked about against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and he has been lights out. We've talked about the
(21:38):
Rookie of the Year odds. I mean it's over.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
CJ. Stroud's going to win that going away.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
But what he has done for the Houston Texans and
for that organization, they are light years ahead of what
anybody thought they were going to be projection wise before
the season started.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
He's second in the league in passing yards. He's thrown
for over eight hundred yards the past two weeks, led
him to two epic comebacks. He's thrown fifteen touchdowns to
just two interceptions, and this like so of it's a
rookie of the year's over, maybe MVP if he stays
on this path. Right now, they were playing without Nico Collins,
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who's been good for them. But I mean, look the
conversation then, and it started a few weeks back when
they scored off Houston versus Carolina, and then now it's
kind of continued the past couple of weeks. Like the
thing that I think has showcase itself is when you
looked at c J. Stroud coming out of Ohio State,
he was lethfully accurate and in particular lethally accurate down
(22:37):
the field, and that wins in the NFL. Like his
play from the pocket, the way he can move within
the pocket and make throws and how accurate he is
and his decision making was all in display. It's why
he was taking number two overall and was in the
conversation for number one overall.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm sure with the brass there in Carolina.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
The interesting thing is the team that's around him like this,
Sneaky is like a good roster tank. Gell has been phenomenal.
Demiko Ryans as their head coach. It should be up
for Coach of the Year right now. I mean, if
the playoffs start today, they'd be a playoff team. They'd
be the seventh seed right now in the playoffs of
the playoffs started today. So it's kind of crazy to
(23:16):
think about a where this AFC South is because they
might be the best team in the AFC South.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was about to say, I was waiting to see
if you were going to say that they could possibly
win it. They could win their division and and that
would be to me, I think that would you would
have to have grounds to give award to C. J.
Stroud possibly with you know, with the player the MVP
award well and Demiko for that matter. Yeah, and think
(23:43):
about absolutely absolutely. I mean you go from how many
wins did they have a year ago, it wasn't many.
Three yeah, three yeah, three wins. Come on, man, you
go there. They've almost doubled that already. They're five and
four right now, and they've been bad for or wow.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
And here's the other thing is they haven't really been
able to run the football, Like if you actually look
at to what's more impressive is he's been carrying them
in that sense, like he's had to do what he's
done in order to give them a shot in games
this year. And so that's what kind of stands out
is even more remarkable about it. Now we're gonna get
comparisons and everyone's gonna say, hey, he should have went
(24:22):
number one, and look, maybe he should have. Maybe when
it's all said and done, if this continues, yeah, like
in a rookie year, if you're on MVP, in the
MVP conversation, then then yeah, I think you're proving a
lot of people that were wrong. Even though I still
would say, if you look at Carolina situation, it's not
an apples to Apple's comparison. I think it's a much
more difficult conversation with with what the Panthers are dealing
(24:42):
with than what the texts are dealing with But that
doesn't take away, by the way, from what CD Strau's done,
Like you can still have that conversation.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I mean, we were doing the same thing back in
twenty sixteen with the Wentz and the golf stuff. Like
early on it looked like Carson Wentz was the better pick.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And then you know Whennsylvania three games in the sea.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So like like people trying to almost air out Bryce
Young and saying, oh my god, what a terrible Like
some places take a little bit more time. Carolina stinks,
all right, and they've got a lot of a lot
that they've got to work through.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Stroud has been awesome, like it's it has been really
fun to watch and easily the best quarterback in that division.
I mean he's outplayed Trevor Lawrence from the jump, and
so just to see that play out and see where
they're at. It could come down to a two horse
race for Coach of the Year. And so I mean, listen, Brady,
(25:37):
you can't you can't ride the fence on this. You
gotta pick is it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Is it? Koc?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
All right?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Careful of bar or are we going with Tamiko Ryans
to win Coach of the year. What are we looking
at here?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
What do you mean you can't ride the fence? The
season's like halfway over.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
You got to let's start calling shots. Here going Kevin O'Connell.
I'm going, Kevin O'Connell. You make fun of my voice
all you want, I'm going, Kevin o'conny.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
It's just like like, yeah, you can't, like you don't
have to make that decision.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Now, Oh I'm making it. Kevin O'Connell. Okay, you got that.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
League gets so sensitive, Yeah, make fun of my But
it's the way you're saying it, like you're going, well, yeah, yeah,
you can't, Like, well, no, you can.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I just there's no points like you could.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
By the way, I almost feel like they should pick
one from each conference because you end up a lot
of times missing out on guys who are very deserving
of the award but don't like they're in the conversation
so there's the appreciation. But there really should be like
a Coach of the Year in each conference. I think
that would be fair only because I get it there's
only one MVP and all that, but there's still oftentimes
you've get two coaches been a really really good job.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
They should be rewarded for it.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Do you think part of the reason why rookies don't
win MVP is kind of like the the Heisman Trophy,
trying to win it two years in a row. It's
almost like it's a knock against you the following year
because like the guys that are favored to win it
over c J. Stroud, I could argue him against a
lot of these guys like Joe Burrow, is has got
(26:57):
better odds to win MVP.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Like I think CJ.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Strides had a better year than Joe Burrow, Like you
can go through like Josh Allen, I think he's had
a better year than Josh Allen. Like golfs on the
list to a Takoby Loa, Like there's a lot of
players on that listen. I just wonder if part of
the knock on it is rookies don't normally do it.
As we mentioned, we haven't seen it since the fifties,
and maybe that's what's holding this back from being a possibility.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Generally, I would say, on what you're saying, there's some
validity to it because you have to almost earn earn
the right to be considered the best right, So it's
kind of like unless you are just outright, unquestionably just
better than everybody in the entire league during the course
(27:46):
of that campaign, it's more of a set up year.
Your rookie year is a set up year. Like you
can become a pro bowler, you can even become an
All Pro, but it's almost difficult to even be a
first team All Pro as a rookie, especially at the
quarterbacks position. And because it's less, right, you only have
(28:06):
one quarterback, So it's kind of like lineman, you have more,
you have more opportunities, right, you have different positions, you
have more opportunities to get to get recognized. At the
quarterbacks position, you don't. And it's almost like your rookie
year is your setup year, or whatever it is. It
may be, it's your setup year to say, Okay, yep,
(28:28):
this guy is the best, Like going into his sophomore season,
you'll he'll have more of an opportunity to actually unseat
some of the guys that maybe not have been more
deserving of the award, but their body of work has
created a credibility where they'll always get the benefit of
the doubt. Can I take something unbelievable?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, So how how many games is Kirk Cousins missed now.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Is two? Two?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Two weeks now, Okay, He's still top ten in passing yards.
He has eighteen touchdown passes, which would be tied for
second in the NFL, to only five interceptions. He was
completing sixty nine percent of his passes.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Like when I was thinking of it, excuse me, I
was thinking of a case of like like now that
look at the numbers, I would say, statistically, speaking of
active quarterbacks right now, CJ.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Strout would be my vote for MVP.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Like when you compare his numbers to everyone else, that's
a starting quarterback right now. He's got better numbers with
the exception i'd say of Cousins, which is shocking because
he's missed two games and yet he's thrown for more
touchdown passes complete or higher percentage of passes three for
more yards per game in that span.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
He's missed the last two weeks. So that's that's the
crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
But if you, if you had a vote right now
of active quarterbacks, like Stroud should be the.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
MVP, just everybody, Like on DraftKings right now, I'm looking
through the list like Jackson and Jalen Hurts and Patrick
Mahomes are the co favorites or are the three favorites
at the top, And then you've got Tua, Joe Burrow, McCaffrey,
Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, Jared gob You can argue him
against every single one of those.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Guys, Like, look, I get it, Two has got more
touchdown passes. He also has more interceptions for that matter,
and he hasn't thrown it for as many yards. But
the reality is, like he is right up there in
that conversation, and I think we'd all agree too. I'm
not saying that. I mean because we saw last year
and two got hurt. It's a completely different team without
him at quarterback there in Miami.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But you can make the.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Same case of Stroud's not there. It's a completely different
team too in Houston. Like I don't know that they're
they don't have a running record, and I don't know
how competitive they are.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So if you're saying most.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Valuable player, I think he could make a really really
strong case right now. And I think that's the one
thing where if you were trying to make a case
for Kirk Cousins, like, well, they've won the last two games,
even despite the fact that he's missed out on that,
so he maybe say like, yeah, he's Tiskey did great,
but maybe not quite as valued.
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I know that. What's that?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So you know, my son loves monster trucks, loves it.
I can't get enough. That's all he watches. So he
was in his garbage truck phase. He still gives loves
to the trash man when he sees and he makes
him honk the horn.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He helps me with the trash barrels.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
But he's really into monster trucks, and so I thought, okay,
I'm gonna take him to Monster Jam, which is awesome
because of that. It's in Anaheim at Angel Stadium. So thought,
all right, this is gonna be fun. I've never seen
it before. It's really fun because it's got just enough
meathead to entertain adults, but also it's for kids. And
(33:03):
so take him out to Monster Jam and he's just
you could just see his eyes light up because these
are all the trucks that he sees every single day
he watches him. He's got the little toy trucks. Like
he was just he was amazed. We're sitting there watching it.
We're having a good time, and I noticed something. I'm like, huh,
got warm. All of a sudden, he urinated down my
(33:25):
entire left leg. And I look at my wife and
I'm like, he's peeing on me. And she said, what
do you mean. I was like, he's peeing on me, no,
and she looks down. I mean, it's literally all down.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
My left leg. I'm wearing jeans, and there's no way
to cover up.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
So well, just like you know, wrap your your jacket
around your waist, I'm like, wrap my jacket around my waist,
right like you think that's going to cover it up.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Like look at this, and I'm wearing.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Like lighter colored jeans. It like it is so obvious,
so it looks like I did it.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Hold on, but hold on a second, Hold on a second.
Let me just paint this scenario for you. Okay, Jonas
drinks a lot of water, he has.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
To go in LeVar.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
You can attest this league, and he has to go
to the bathroom often.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, yes, I'm gonna throw out. He's blaming it on
How do you gut wrapped up into it?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
You peed yourself and you're blaming it on yourself.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Look, I have admitted to wedding the bed before in
my thirties.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, I was so tired.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes, I've admitted to that before.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
On the air. I thought you said you were drunk.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
You're tired, dead, sober, middle of the week dead, So.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Like a Wednesday Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
There you go, right, And so I was in shock.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
And yourself, I was wearing like three if you weren't
on drugs, you weren't drunk, you just did.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
So I'm still trying I'm still trying to work the
logistics of this all out. Was he sitting on your lap? Yeah? Okay,
all right, okay, yeah, because that makes more. But how
did his pants look?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
He was like no, he was wearing darker pants, so
he was fine. I was wearing lighter jeans on. Yeah,
so there was there was no surviving it. And so
I'm like trying to pretend like I'm throwing away trash
as I walk up the stairs to go try and
do what I can in the bathroom, and people are
looking at me in the bathroom going did this guy
(35:41):
pee himself?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Because I'm having.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
To why wouldn't you just sit like let your natural
body heat? And the how? How right?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
How long was the mid sixties?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Oh that's not gonna eat. Yeah, it's not great, and
that's going a cool like a and in the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Because the problem was it dripped onto the seat. It
was a puddle on the seat.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I mean, he's a camel. He's got that much. He's
got that much.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He drinks a lot of water like I do.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I don't know. I think you just out of yourself again.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I swear to it was. So this is how bad
it was.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
When, because you know, the seats automatically pulled back in stadiums,
when it pulled back, his urine dripped down off the
back of the seat.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
How did to take you that long? The notice?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Because we were just watching the monster trucks. I was like,
why did you get warm all sudden?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Man?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And then I.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Realized the case of this is a case of you
being tired out of it and all wrapped up in
the monster truck yourself.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Look, I wish that were the case, but you know what, though,
loyal father, I could have easily aired him out to
everybody and said, hey, by the way, this was not me,
this was my son. But I just dealt with whatever
criticism or dirty looks I was going to get in
the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there's a lot of people
came over to you and like, hey man, you pet yourself?
So did I? Yeah, I'm top, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Not like you didn't just air him out on national
radio either.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, exactly what dad? Out of there? What a dad
you are?
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Well fortunately this isn't in Spanish, so he didn't know
what's going on, so we're good here.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
But I would have been out of there. You have
to have a story lead this weekend. I mean, I'm
banged up, y'all hadn't noticed I am banged up. I
don't have an IR situation. I didn't get hurt or
anything or have on the IR technically. Oh I'm on,
I'm I'm definitely, I mean I'm playing hurt.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Hey did you get to ten.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Bro? I didn't. I didn't make it to Too ten
I didn't go to Champs either. I was I was
after tavern. I was at the tavern and I got
it in. You know, there was some really really you know,
mister was there there. It was a lot of people
they night. But yeah, I mean that did that did
happen LeVar Islands did happen for And I'm still dealing
(38:07):
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I got to live vicariously through you guys because I
wasn't there, and majority of people listening to this right
now have to live vicariously through you guys, because I
don't know how this landed for anybody else on the
outside looking in. But Saturday and the build up for
Michigan Penn State there in State College and the is
Jim Harbaugh going to make it to the game? Will
(01:38):
they get the temporary restraining order on the suspension for
the final three games of the season. It was Harbaugh Watch,
He's ten minutes away from the stadium, he can be there.
It was phenomenal television, Like I couldn't get enough of it,
and I'm just wondering, what was what was that place
like there at ground zero with all that drama going
(02:01):
on even before the game kicked off.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
I mean, var how do you view it from the
Penn State perspective of it?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It was excitement, a ton of excitement. I think the
energy that I felt on Saturday before calling the game
was really an environment of happy Valley was going to
go crazy when not if when we beat Michigan in
(02:31):
our stripeout game, you know, we had the Fighter Jets
fly over we I mean, we pulled out all the stops.
You know, there were a lot of a lot of
activations there. It was. It was a ton of excitement
and I think there was a no, I know, there
was a ton of optimism that you could feel like
(02:51):
it was just very very heavy. The amount of energy
and electricity surrounding the game was, you know it was
it actually was so much. I think there was so
much fun being had that you could tell that the
stands hadn't even filled up by the kickoff, like they
(03:13):
were still getting lubed up in the tailgates to go
in and watch Penn State win that game. So, you know,
it was it was a great atmosphere, was a great energy,
and it was certainly if you're a Penn State or
it was a great just as great a let down.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I can give you the perspective, like unbiased kind of
broadcast was we literally went into that day not knowing
what the show would really look like. I mean, so
once the once the tro the temporary strating order was
filed after Tony Pettiti, the commissioner for the Big Ten,
(03:53):
came down with the suspension. There was various sources saying
that once they filed the t they thought that they
could get a judgment on it in time for Harbaugh
to be there on the sideline. And what became kind
of a twist to the story that was interesting was
Pat Kraft, the athletic director at Penn State, said, look, man,
(04:14):
if he walks down, we're not getting in the way, Like,
we're not gonna put ourselves or inject ourselves into this
controversy where we're gonna bar Jim Harball from walk on
the sidelines even.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
If they don't get the TRORO through.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
So we're kind of sitting there on the outside saying, well,
our entire rundown, which is like our show game plan,
if you will, we don't really know what we're gonna
do because because of this decision. Now, that's obviously what
we're leading the show off with. But at any point
in time, they could get a ruling on this, potentially
allowing Harbaugh to be there, and then that's gonna change
(04:52):
how you look at this thing. I mean, you're probably
trying to find cameras on horrorball coming into the stadium.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know it's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Like a wol event, right, it's walking walking out from
behind like the villain.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
And so meanwhile you're trying to do this the show.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
Where like you're you're talking about all what's going on
in college football. There's a lot of big games that
were going on, and yet the centerpiece to all of
it was like, what's gonna happen with Jim Harbaugh and
how is this going to impact or not impact the game?
So it was one of the most interesting, I guess
shows that I've been a part of, only because for
the most part, studio shows are really scripted.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
You know, eighty to ninety percent of.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
What you put in is getting in, you know, where
when you call a game, it's like eighty and ninety
percent of your prep goes out the window because once
the game starts, it starts, and there's injuries, and there's twists,
there's turns and things that you just have to follow
the game, and so you've got to be prepared in
everything else you do and prepared really to react. So
that was an instance where like it was you're like
(06:01):
kind of flying by the seat of your pants, with
each segment saying like, all right, what's with update?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Now, what's happening? Now?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
There is lawyers involved, right, there's people trying to give
you their legal interpretations. You're trying to understand legal interpretations,
you know, Like my thing was from the people that
I talked to who are attorneys, and then my experience
being a player during the lockout and wanted to educate myself.
Then on the granted kind of separate and how that
(06:28):
worked out. But with filing injunctions is these sorts of
things do not clear themselves up fast.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Judges don't want to rule.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
On something that doesn't want even if it's some serious nature.
They don't want to make a judgment or ruling on
something without what they feel like is due process. And
what became the catchword or catchphrase over the course of
Friday Saturday was Michigan's not getting the due process they
deserve with the NCAA investigation and the Big ten and
(06:57):
their punishment. And I think if you looked at the
judicial system, they didn't want to do that as well,
and so they weren't gonna rule on it. I know
everyone felt like they had the judges lined up and
they're you know, had Michigan backgrounds, and that's what was
gonna happen. It was never gonna happen, Like, that's that
sort of thing takes time, whether it was to flake
Gate or the lockout, like all all those sorts of
(07:19):
decisions take time, and so I kind of was pretty
skeptical of Horriball ever being involved in any capacity and
was kind of thinking to myself like, at some point too,
as a head coach, you gotta sit back and go like,
am I being the distraction from my team by showing
up whether I can or cannot? Like at some point
the Hayes in the barn, I've got to let Shroon
(07:39):
Moore do his job as the internim heead coach, and
my players and my staff focused the game plans in place.
It really just comes down to a few critical decisions
you're gonna make and some adjustments.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And that was what I.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Thought was kind of most interesting. But man, I'll tell
you this much, the atmosphere and Happy Valley is unique.
It's not it's unlike anything else I've been a part of.
Now going there two years in a row, the stripeout
is ridiculous. The fans, the students, ridiculous, the setting ridiculous.
I mean, it is one of the coolest places. And
(08:14):
you see why people loving are so passionate about in
Varro y you are every time we go. I'm like,
that place is special. It really really is. So it
couldn't have been any bigger stakes along with the drama.
I know it's a long win a way of putting it,
but it was one of the coolest things that I've
really been a part of, I should say cool but
more unique things.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I've been a part of.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Interesting signage too as well, some of the messaging and some.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
By the way, dude, even Matt Canada can't get away
from fire There was probably four different fire Back Canada sides.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I'm like, geez, dude, I know we're in.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Pennsylvania, but like, like this poor guy can't even in
a big match up between Michigan and penn State.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
He can't even get away there.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like I'm sending you, I said, you guys a picture
of it.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
But there was a sign Matt Lionerd's trying to make
a point and there's just signed behind him that just
said Jim Harbor cheats on his wife again.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
No b being there, and just people letting it fly
before the game.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
And some of these signs they got to take down sometimes,
you know, depend on they trust me. There's some really
good signs that never make the light of day on TV.
So it's it's always fun to see what these these
kids come up with.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Man, let it fly during the game. About that, because
that was letting it fly during the game?
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Go ahead, open up? Because I told you back when
they lost to Ohio State. I've watched this offense for
a period of years now with Mike Yersich, and people
were like, here's the realities. People were gonna get on
James Franklin for the management of that game, Like I thought,
going for too early, poor decision. It's fourteen to nine,
Like what's the point of going for two in the
(09:53):
first half like that? That made no sense to me.
And then when they do decide to go for two,
and you can have a debate about you know, hey,
you're down what twenty four to fifteen at that point
does it make sense to go for two at that moment? Well, one,
your earlier decision to go for two ended up playing
an impact on that decision, and then the swinging gate,
(10:14):
that's the play you go with I just like there
was so many times when I looked at the faulter
of Penn State and not being able to beat Ohio
State and win a Big Ten championship or beat Michigan
win a Big Ten championship. It had to do with
their offense. Last time they won the Big Ten championship,
Joe Moorehead was their play caller. He's phenomenal, and they
won the Beatlehiuse State and won the Big Ten one year.
(10:35):
They lost by one the next year. Like he's the
head coach at Akron now, so you know it'd be
hard to maybe pry him away and get him back,
but it'd be worth giving him a call, man, like,
throw a bunch of money at him and see if
you could bring him back.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The quarterback, the talent.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
That team is too good offensively and defensively not to
miss this window of opportunity. And because I really do
feel like the decision that James Franklin made was in
part probably the pressure on him, but also much needed
and unfortunately too late for this season.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, it's too late. That's that's certainly, you know, certainly
the I mean the easy, easy response to it. I
just thought it was it was kind of you know,
you had a defense that was playing their hearts out
and listen the run. There were a couple of big
run plays that that they they allowed to happen during
(11:24):
the game, but you know.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Largely they really well, let's be real, that's two years
in a row. Now, Michigan's just run the ball down
their throats. I mean they took not even at times
like they rushed for over tow hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
That's by far the most Penn States given up all year.
You push back and say, at times it was it
was not consistent. They weren't consistently running it down their throats.
It was there were moments like maybe the second half
or second quarter they had some really really good runs.
There were some good runs in the third, and maybe
(11:59):
one or two a few in the fourth. I mean,
it was it wasn't like year before. It was not
like it was.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They didn't rush for four h yards, but year before, yeah,
they didn't rush for four hundred yards, but they they
surely those.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
They didn't need to.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
And I think that's actually probably the more damning thing
was when you rush for two hundred and twenty seven yards,
which is still a lot, and I don't care who
you are, and you've only given up I think on
average sixty per game before that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
That's four times almost your season. Yeah, and then and
by the way, you win thirty two straight running plays
with the exception of one DPI that you give up
for a first down. That that's it, though, Like that's
probably more damning than giving up fourner and eighteen last year.
It's that at home, you give up to the point
where it was a one dimensional team and you couldn't
stop it. So that's what I'd push back and say, Yeah,
(12:50):
you might say there's a few big runs here and there,
but the reality is they never stopped them running the football.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
But the score was reflective of the opportunities. And I
still think that the defense played at a level that
one hundred percent. If the offense had did more that
it would have been it would have been a different game.
I mean, if you're going three and outs, you know,
as rapidly and as quickly as as Penn State was
(13:17):
going and just not really showing any type of of hope.
Like there you looked at it and it was like
there wasn't like you're trying to figure out like me
and my couple of my former teammates, you know, we
were talking about it is like what is the what's
the game plan in this? In this? Like what are
(13:38):
you looking at that one play didn't set up another play?
There was no real logic in the passing tree, like
what what what routes are they running? Like what what
are you setting up?
Speaker 5 (13:49):
I'm glad you're saying this now because I texted this
to you earlier this season with my frustration because I
feel like they're wasting the offensive talents time.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
That's how I feel. Why was it was? I mean,
the stats don't lie and and and when you're talking
about your number one receiver, and this is just this
is me being being critical and being an analyst. This
isn't me being you know, a fan and a homer.
But when you look at KeAndre Lambert Smith and he
(14:19):
has one catch for six yards, even even if you
call a bad game.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Had won for four, Well he had a little bit
more than that. He had one catch for one catch.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well yeah yeah, yeah, and it was and it was
a big and it was a big catch. Yeah, it
was a big catch. I thought you were talking about
the yard because you know, because they didn't have to
throw the ball in the second half of Michigan. But
I just I think being critical from a critical eye
(14:56):
when you're when you're playing against a team like Michigan.
And by the way the way we were playing, the
way Penn State was playing early on, you could clearly
see that if there was some success that they had
that it could have been a good It could have
been a good day for Penn State. But they slowly,
they slowly allowed Michigan to gang confidence. They they made
(15:22):
some good plays some timely played JJ McCarthy. He probably
hurt us the most with his with his legs, more
so than even the running backs. And we just we
didn't win third downs well and and and it turned
into a what is our defense doing? Because we were
you know, there was not a lot of hope in
(15:43):
what the offense was going to bring to the table.
So I don't know, man, he just felt really one
sided and lopsided.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I mean, I mean Korm did go for one hundred
and forty five and t tuddies, so I don't I mean,
JJ had a couple runs that that helped convert. But
I would say this, I thought Penn State was gonna
was gonna win that game. After Abdul Carter came up
and popped Blake Korn man, and I'll say this much,
(16:10):
that was one where when you watch that hit, and
I was right there on the sideline, I was probably
ten yards back from where the hit took place.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I thought Blake Korn was knocked out.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
It looked like when he got popped, that ball came
out and he went kind of limp, and I was.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Watching to see how it was gonna be handled.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
And that's where like the dad in me comes out
as far as like player of safety, where I'm like, man,
you saw how busted up his face was after the
game that came on that hit, I'm pretty sure. And
I don't know if you got checked for a concussion
or not, but he definitely should have in that case
because it looked like it looked like he was kind
(16:48):
of dazed and confused out there for a minute before
obviously he was able to turn things back on. So
that was that point where I thought, man, Penn State's
got all the momentum, the crowd is nuts and it's
out and everything else, and it was just a slow,
methodical and you gotta give you gotta give Shrian more
credit because if you're an interim head coach, a play
caller online, like you could have easily said, hey, JJ
(17:12):
McCarthy has been opening things up this year.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
We could try to take some shots that he was
just like, no, like what would what would Jim Harball do?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
Jim Harball would do exactly what he did and keep
playing it kind of tight, running the football, limiting possessions,
like just playing that same type of battling game. And
that was that was the thing that you know, shining
moment for me is seeing Scharan Moore, a guy who
got his opportunity. He did a great job in that instance,
and you could see the motions too, and he understood
(17:41):
how big that win was.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I also thought it was crazy, though.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
I thought it was nice that they bookended the broadcast
with curse Bombs on the air from Charles.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Woodson and then Shan Moore after the.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Game it was done.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Definitely, the most the most awkward thing that happened was
the flyover. Happened like they did must have done a
test run or something early. No, no, no, no, So they
did one when our show was on, probably about two
hours before the game kicked and Woodson at one point
just paused, was like looking up, looking around, like I
don't know if you thought there was an issue where
something was going on, but it was like, yeah, like
(18:21):
we can hear it where we're at, but that doesn't
necessarily always make it onto air, and so he just
kind of pause, was looking around and like it. Then
it became so awkward. You had to acknowledge what was happening.
At least for the viewers at home.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You realized they were late. They were late, yeah, for
the national anthem. Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about before that,
like two three Yeah, I saw him go by early,
but they were they were like two three men literally
like two or three minutes late flying Pie. After the
national anthem had finished up, I was like, oh god,
I hope this isn't you know Indica happen? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Man, well it it was listen entertaining as hell to watch. Sorry, bar,
but at least you got some hoping on.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
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For you, right seventy years. Yeah.
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Speaker 3 (20:53):
We are going to have an FSRR.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
It's a Monday tradition we report any injuries, issues, ailments
from a long weekend. We'll get that for you again
here on Fox Sports Radio. But we made mention of
this quickly earlier, but there is the potential of this
actually happening. We have not seen it since the nineteen fifties,
but a rookie winning MVP in the NFL and CJ.
(21:16):
Stroud is, at least in the conversation, another fantastic performance, Jesse. Yeah,
it was a bad pick late, but engineered the game
winning drive for the Houston Texans to go down and
win that game in Cincinnati. He did it last week
as we mentioned and talked about against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
and he has been lights out. We've talked about the
(21:38):
Rookie of the Year odds. I mean it's over.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
CJ. Stroud's going to win that going away.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
But what he has done for the Houston Texans and
for that organization, they are light years ahead of what
anybody thought they were going to be projection wise before
the season started.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
He's second in the league in passing yards. He's thrown
for over eight hundred yards the past two weeks, led
him to two epic comebacks. He's thrown fifteen touchdowns to
just two interceptions, and this like so of it's a
rookie of the year's over, maybe MVP if he stays
on this path. Right now, they were playing without Nico Collins,
(22:14):
who's been good for them. But I mean, look the
conversation then, and it started a few weeks back when
they scored off Houston versus Carolina, and then now it's
kind of continued the past couple of weeks. Like the
thing that I think has showcase itself is when you
looked at c J. Stroud coming out of Ohio State,
he was lethfully accurate and in particular lethally accurate down
(22:37):
the field, and that wins in the NFL. Like his
play from the pocket, the way he can move within
the pocket and make throws and how accurate he is
and his decision making was all in display. It's why
he was taking number two overall and was in the
conversation for number one overall.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm sure with the brass there in Carolina.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
The interesting thing is the team that's around him like this,
Sneaky is like a good roster tank. Gell has been phenomenal.
Demiko Ryans as their head coach. It should be up
for Coach of the Year right now. I mean, if
the playoffs start today, they'd be a playoff team. They'd
be the seventh seed right now in the playoffs of
the playoffs started today. So it's kind of crazy to
(23:16):
think about a where this AFC South is because they
might be the best team in the AFC South.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I was about to say, I was waiting to see
if you were going to say that they could possibly
win it. They could win their division and and that
would be to me, I think that would you would
have to have grounds to give award to C. J.
Stroud possibly with you know, with the player the MVP
award well and Demiko for that matter. Yeah, and think
(23:43):
about absolutely absolutely. I mean you go from how many
wins did they have a year ago, it wasn't many.
Three yeah, three yeah, three wins. Come on, man, you
go there. They've almost doubled that already. They're five and
four right now, and they've been bad for or wow.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
And here's the other thing is they haven't really been
able to run the football, Like if you actually look
at to what's more impressive is he's been carrying them
in that sense, like he's had to do what he's
done in order to give them a shot in games
this year. And so that's what kind of stands out
is even more remarkable about it. Now we're gonna get
comparisons and everyone's gonna say, hey, he should have went
(24:22):
number one, and look, maybe he should have. Maybe when
it's all said and done, if this continues, yeah, like
in a rookie year, if you're on MVP, in the
MVP conversation, then then yeah, I think you're proving a
lot of people that were wrong. Even though I still
would say, if you look at Carolina situation, it's not
an apples to Apple's comparison. I think it's a much
more difficult conversation with with what the Panthers are dealing
(24:42):
with than what the texts are dealing with But that
doesn't take away, by the way, from what CD Strau's done,
Like you can still have that conversation.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
I mean, we were doing the same thing back in
twenty sixteen with the Wentz and the golf stuff. Like
early on it looked like Carson Wentz was the better pick.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
And then you know Whennsylvania three games in the sea.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
So like like people trying to almost air out Bryce
Young and saying, oh my god, what a terrible Like
some places take a little bit more time. Carolina stinks,
all right, and they've got a lot of a lot
that they've got to work through.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Stroud has been awesome, like it's it has been really
fun to watch and easily the best quarterback in that division.
I mean he's outplayed Trevor Lawrence from the jump, and
so just to see that play out and see where
they're at. It could come down to a two horse
race for Coach of the Year. And so I mean, listen, Brady,
(25:37):
you can't you can't ride the fence on this. You
gotta pick is it?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Is it? Koc?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
All right?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Careful of bar or are we going with Tamiko Ryans
to win Coach of the year. What are we looking
at here?
Speaker 1 (25:47):
What do you mean you can't ride the fence? The
season's like halfway over.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
You got to let's start calling shots. Here going Kevin O'Connell.
I'm going, Kevin O'Connell. You make fun of my voice
all you want, I'm going, Kevin o'conny.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
It's just like like, yeah, you can't, like you don't
have to make that decision.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Now, Oh I'm making it. Kevin O'Connell. Okay, you got that.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
League gets so sensitive, Yeah, make fun of my But
it's the way you're saying it, like you're going, well, yeah, yeah,
you can't, Like, well, no, you can.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I just there's no points like you could.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
By the way, I almost feel like they should pick
one from each conference because you end up a lot
of times missing out on guys who are very deserving
of the award but don't like they're in the conversation
so there's the appreciation. But there really should be like
a Coach of the Year in each conference. I think
that would be fair only because I get it there's
only one MVP and all that, but there's still oftentimes
you've get two coaches been a really really good job.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
They should be rewarded for it.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Do you think part of the reason why rookies don't
win MVP is kind of like the the Heisman Trophy,
trying to win it two years in a row. It's
almost like it's a knock against you the following year
because like the guys that are favored to win it
over c J. Stroud, I could argue him against a
lot of these guys like Joe Burrow, is has got
(26:57):
better odds to win MVP.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Like I think CJ.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Strides had a better year than Joe Burrow, Like you
can go through like Josh Allen, I think he's had
a better year than Josh Allen. Like golfs on the
list to a Takoby Loa, Like there's a lot of
players on that listen. I just wonder if part of
the knock on it is rookies don't normally do it.
As we mentioned, we haven't seen it since the fifties,
and maybe that's what's holding this back from being a possibility.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Generally, I would say, on what you're saying, there's some
validity to it because you have to almost earn earn
the right to be considered the best right, So it's
kind of like unless you are just outright, unquestionably just
better than everybody in the entire league during the course
(27:46):
of that campaign, it's more of a set up year.
Your rookie year is a set up year. Like you
can become a pro bowler, you can even become an
All Pro, but it's almost difficult to even be a
first team All Pro as a rookie, especially at the
quarterbacks position. And because it's less, right, you only have
(28:06):
one quarterback, So it's kind of like lineman, you have more,
you have more opportunities, right, you have different positions, you
have more opportunities to get to get recognized. At the
quarterbacks position, you don't. And it's almost like your rookie
year is your setup year, or whatever it is. It
may be, it's your setup year to say, Okay, yep,
(28:28):
this guy is the best, Like going into his sophomore season,
you'll he'll have more of an opportunity to actually unseat
some of the guys that maybe not have been more
deserving of the award, but their body of work has
created a credibility where they'll always get the benefit of
the doubt. Can I take something unbelievable?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, So how how many games is Kirk Cousins missed now.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Is two? Two?
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Two weeks now, Okay, He's still top ten in passing yards.
He has eighteen touchdown passes, which would be tied for
second in the NFL, to only five interceptions. He was
completing sixty nine percent of his passes.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Like when I was thinking of it, excuse me, I
was thinking of a case of like like now that
look at the numbers, I would say, statistically, speaking of
active quarterbacks right now, CJ.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Strout would be my vote for MVP.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Like when you compare his numbers to everyone else, that's
a starting quarterback right now. He's got better numbers with
the exception i'd say of Cousins, which is shocking because
he's missed two games and yet he's thrown for more
touchdown passes complete or higher percentage of passes three for
more yards per game in that span.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
He's missed the last two weeks. So that's that's the
crazy thing.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
But if you, if you had a vote right now
of active quarterbacks, like Stroud should be the.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
MVP, just everybody, Like on DraftKings right now, I'm looking
through the list like Jackson and Jalen Hurts and Patrick
Mahomes are the co favorites or are the three favorites
at the top, And then you've got Tua, Joe Burrow, McCaffrey,
Brock Purdy, Josh Allen, Jared gob You can argue him
against every single one of those.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Guys, Like, look, I get it, Two has got more
touchdown passes. He also has more interceptions for that matter,
and he hasn't thrown it for as many yards. But
the reality is, like he is right up there in
that conversation, and I think we'd all agree too. I'm
not saying that. I mean because we saw last year
and two got hurt. It's a completely different team without
him at quarterback there in Miami.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
But you can make the.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Same case of Stroud's not there. It's a completely different
team too in Houston. Like I don't know that they're
they don't have a running record, and I don't know
how competitive they are.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
So if you're saying most.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Valuable player, I think he could make a really really
strong case right now. And I think that's the one
thing where if you were trying to make a case
for Kirk Cousins, like, well, they've won the last two games,
even despite the fact that he's missed out on that,
so he maybe say like, yeah, he's Tiskey did great,
but maybe not quite as valued.
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Speaker 3 (32:23):
Yeah, I got one.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I know that. What's that?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So you know, my son loves monster trucks, loves it.
I can't get enough. That's all he watches. So he
was in his garbage truck phase. He still gives loves
to the trash man when he sees and he makes
him honk the horn.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
He loves it.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
He helps me with the trash barrels.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
But he's really into monster trucks, and so I thought, okay,
I'm gonna take him to Monster Jam, which is awesome
because of that. It's in Anaheim at Angel Stadium. So thought,
all right, this is gonna be fun. I've never seen
it before. It's really fun because it's got just enough
meathead to entertain adults, but also it's for kids. And
(33:03):
so take him out to Monster Jam and he's just
you could just see his eyes light up because these
are all the trucks that he sees every single day
he watches him. He's got the little toy trucks. Like
he was just he was amazed. We're sitting there watching it.
We're having a good time, and I noticed something. I'm like, huh,
got warm. All of a sudden, he urinated down my
(33:25):
entire left leg. And I look at my wife and
I'm like, he's peeing on me. And she said, what
do you mean. I was like, he's peeing on me, no,
and she looks down. I mean, it's literally all down.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
My left leg. I'm wearing jeans, and there's no way
to cover up.
Speaker 8 (33:48):
So well, just like you know, wrap your your jacket
around your waist, I'm like, wrap my jacket around my waist,
right like you think that's going to cover it up.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Like look at this, and I'm wearing.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Like lighter colored jeans. It like it is so obvious,
so it looks like I did it.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Hold on, but hold on a second, Hold on a second.
Let me just paint this scenario for you. Okay, Jonas
drinks a lot of water, he has.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
To go in LeVar.
Speaker 5 (34:18):
You can attest this league, and he has to go
to the bathroom often.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yes, yes, I'm gonna throw out. He's blaming it on
How do you gut wrapped up into it?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
You peed yourself and you're blaming it on yourself.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
Look, I have admitted to wedding the bed before in
my thirties.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yeah, I was so tired.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yes, I've admitted to that before.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
On the air. I thought you said you were drunk.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
You're tired, dead, sober, middle of the week dead, So.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Like a Wednesday Tuesday night.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
There you go, right, And so I was in shock.
Speaker 9 (34:54):
And yourself, I was wearing like three if you weren't
on drugs, you weren't drunk, you just did.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
So I'm still trying I'm still trying to work the
logistics of this all out. Was he sitting on your lap? Yeah? Okay,
all right, okay, yeah, because that makes more. But how
did his pants look?
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:20):
He was like no, he was wearing darker pants, so
he was fine. I was wearing lighter jeans on. Yeah,
so there was there was no surviving it. And so
I'm like trying to pretend like I'm throwing away trash
as I walk up the stairs to go try and
do what I can in the bathroom, and people are
looking at me in the bathroom going did this guy
(35:41):
pee himself?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Because I'm having.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
To why wouldn't you just sit like let your natural
body heat? And the how? How right?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
How long was the mid sixties?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Oh that's not gonna eat. Yeah, it's not great, and
that's going a cool like a and in the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Because the problem was it dripped onto the seat. It
was a puddle on the seat.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I mean, he's a camel. He's got that much. He's
got that much.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
He drinks a lot of water like I do.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I don't know. I think you just out of yourself again.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
I swear to it was. So this is how bad
it was.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
When, because you know, the seats automatically pulled back in stadiums,
when it pulled back, his urine dripped down off the
back of the seat.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
How did to take you that long? The notice?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Because we were just watching the monster trucks. I was like,
why did you get warm all sudden?
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Man?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
And then I.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Realized the case of this is a case of you
being tired out of it and all wrapped up in
the monster truck yourself.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Look, I wish that were the case, but you know what, though,
loyal father, I could have easily aired him out to
everybody and said, hey, by the way, this was not me,
this was my son. But I just dealt with whatever
criticism or dirty looks I was going to get in
the bathroom.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure there's a lot of people
came over to you and like, hey man, you pet yourself?
So did I? Yeah, I'm top, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Not like you didn't just air him out on national
radio either.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, exactly what dad? Out of there? What a dad
you are?
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Well fortunately this isn't in Spanish, so he didn't know
what's going on, so we're good here.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
But I would have been out of there. You have
to have a story lead this weekend. I mean, I'm
banged up, y'all hadn't noticed I am banged up. I
don't have an IR situation. I didn't get hurt or
anything or have on the IR technically. Oh I'm on,
I'm I'm definitely, I mean I'm playing hurt.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Hey did you get to ten.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Bro? I didn't. I didn't make it to Too ten
I didn't go to Champs either. I was I was
after tavern. I was at the tavern and I got
it in. You know, there was some really really you know,
mister was there there. It was a lot of people
they night. But yeah, I mean that did that did
happen LeVar Islands did happen for And I'm still dealing
(38:07):
with it.
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