November 15, 2023 • 40 mins
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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fall guy in Buffalo that was Ken Dorsey, the latest
college football playoff rankings, potentially a conspiracy, and a college
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Speaker 2 (02:57):
So remember years ago when you know, Chris Carter was
talking to a bunch of rookies and he was telling them, hey,
you gotta have a fall guy.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
The NFL Syposium.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, just like y'all got a crew, got to get
yourselves a fall guy.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, the Buffalo Bills guy.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Got a crew. You got to have a fall guy.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Thank you, Chris. Where's he been, by the way, but.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Somewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, the Buffalo Bills, they've got a crew.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And they identified their fall guy and it was offensive
coordinator Ken Dorsey.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Just another awful performance by the offense in Buffalo, and
just an awful performance by them in general, all the turnovers.
Something's not right. They're now a five hundred football team
and on the outside looking in in the AFC playoffs.
And so they decided yesterday they were going to make
a change, and that change was the firing of offensive
coordinator Ken Dorsey.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So he is gone. In goes Joe Brady.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
The coquarterbacks coach there to work with Josh Allen and company,
and the head coach of the Buffalo Bill Sean McDermott,
spoke about the decision and the expectations of Josh Allen
moving forward.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I just felt this was the right time. Certainly unfortunate situation,
but overall, trying to instill some new energy in our offense,
new confidence and new consistency in terms of the production
producing at a more consistent level. So whether it was
predictable not predictable, you know, I certainly have my opinions overall.
Keep those in the house from now. Josh and I
speak daily. This decision was made by me and me alone.
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Beyond that, it's Josh's responsibility in job to come out
and help coach Brady form like the game plan and
come out and execute the game plan and take care
of the football and lead our offense more than anything.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Well, that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Offensive coordinator change if you want to change the turnover
problem there apparently.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So this is a classic study of when things go wrong,
who takes the blame, and typically it's your head coach
and your quarterback. Okay, and there's a few different pressure points.
When you're a head coach and you're taking on water,
you're taking blame, right, and that ship is starting to
sink a little bit, right, you have to do something
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you're not gonna You're not gonna fire yourself obviously, and
so your move is one of two things you either
bench your quarterback not gonna do. In this case, it's
Josh Allen he's paid. He's your best player, Like he's
really a lot of times your only chance you having
games on winning given how banged up the defense is
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right now, the lack of a running game, at least
a consistent running game, and your next best player, Stefan
Diggs is reliant on Josh Allen getting him the ball.
So Josh Allen's by far and away your best player.
It gives you the best shot of winning. So he's
not getting benched. And so you can fire a coach. Now,
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you can't fire the defensive coordinator because that's Sean McDermott.
I mean he's taking over for Leslie Frickscher. Fire himself, No,
of course not. So there sits squarely is Ken Dorsey
their offensive coordinator. And the interesting thing to me is,
if you go back, I think a recent history twenty
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twenty one, the Bills in week nine through fourteen went
through this same exact stint. When I say same exact,
I mean I gave you guys the stats last night
in the notes they were two and four from weeks
nine to fourteen and twenty twenty one, they had thirteen turnovers.
Offensively in that time, they were averaging about three hundred
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and sixty yards per game and twenty two points per game.
Right now, during this six game stretch weeks five through ten,
they're two and four. They've had thirteen turnovers, they averaged
three hundred and fifty six yards per game and twenty
one points. It's almost identical statistically. What has happen happened?
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So what took place? Back in twenty twenty one? Brian
Dable was their offense coordinator, now the head coach with
the New York Giants. They didn't fire him, They stuck
with them, and they came out on their other side.
They won their next five games, which included a wild
card playoff game after that week nine through fourteenth stint
in twenty twenty one, So I'm just wondering, why doesn't
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Ken Dorsey get the same consideration? You know, do they
feel like this offense is that drastically different than you know,
what they have with Brian Dable. I'll tell you this much.
If you compare the defenses from twenty twenty one in
that span and twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Uh oh.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
In twenty twenty one, the defense got four more turnovers
in that span. Right now, they've only got four turnovers
in the past six games, so the turnover margins minus nine.
If you look back on how many yards per game
the defense was giving up back in twenty four, three
hundred and twelve yards, they're giving up almost fifty yards
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more per game now defensively, and they're giving up about
two more points per game as well, which it doesn't
seem like a lot, but in the NFL standards a
lot of times that's the difference between winning and losing.
So the crazy thing is it's actually the defensive struggles
that have combined with the lack of offensive production, led
to this. But if you're Sean McDermott, you're not gonna
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fire yourself. Leslie Fraser already left, and so who you
point at, Ken Dorsey? You find a fall guy, you
find a scapegoat. That's what this is. Because the truth
of the matter is, and I look at this as
a player, all pieces involved in the offense are part
of this. So it's not even just Josh Allen, I
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mean James Cook had two, had two. I mean the
opening play and then you go look at the exchange.
I don't know if you put that on Josh Allen
or James Cook you're both responsible, right, and then the
interceptions as well. So the sad thing is because of
the lack of execution by a player and a lot
of players in this case. And then what's happening to
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their team. Their defense is decimated with injuries and they
go through this two and four stretch. Sean McDermott feels
the pressure and then has to do something, So he
fires his offensive coordinator and they hired Joe Brady, who
didn't even make it through his tenure there with the
Carolina Panthers. He got into year two under Matt Rulin,
got fired before the season was over, and so it's
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a lot of pressure on a young guy. He doesn't
have a ton of play calling experience. He was there
with Joe Burrow in LSU. It's where he kind of
got his name. And now he moves into a major
position where he's got to finish out a team that's
trying to make it back to the playoffs with a
tough schedule.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Oh know, man, it's like trying to decipher if you
see poor, poor execution, then you see a team that
has been given such high expectations not reach them. How
how you how you managed to pinpoint where the first
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fall guy, where the first domino that goes down? Is
I mean, if I'm McDermott, I am nervous, I am
I am feeling the pressure of it because this is
this is one of those those moments in time where
you're probably going to have critics saying this team has
hit its ceiling.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Do you does this move make you rethink whether or
not McDermott is on the hot seat as we talked
about yesterday.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Not to lose his job this year, which I think,
I think there's more relevance to you saying it. You
saying it, there's more relevance to it now. There's more
relevance to it now. But I don't think that that
would be What would happen feel like?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Can I ask your question?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
I mean, if it ends if it ends bad?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
When you saw the Pagoulas because I know they're heavily
involved with Penn.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
State, I only saw one and I saw the husband.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Okay, yes, Well, I'm just saying you saw that, and
what happens when things workout and happy value who gets clipped?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
That was crazy? Man?
Speaker 7 (11:03):
That might I mean, there could be a correlation. It
might not be a pattern behavior, it might be a
correlation here.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I mean, yeah, like you you had an offense that
wasn't performing. You've got a big time donor and support
of a university in a program, and who gets clipped
the offensive coordinator and then now you've got the owner
of a franchise that donor.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Yeah, and their offensive coordinator got clipped.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It changed my mind, Like I didn't think there was
any possibility, And now with this decision, I'm like, Oh,
they're really they really feeling the pressure from this.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I mean, I mean, if there's correlations, the difference.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Is Penn State will win out and then they'll end
up going and I think going off and winning their
bowl game. And so it's a little different. Like Buffalo's
got a difficult track the rest of the way and schedule.
You know, we talked about this yesterday, like how many
games they need to win for us to feel like
they're a playoff team? Five?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, So that's what I right.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
So that's to your question and to to Q's point, Jonas, Yeah,
I mean it does seem like it has a tap
bit more relevancy, a little bit more bite to it.
Knowing that you know they're letting guys.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Go, especially when you lay out the defensive struggles and look,
I don't know if there was there was some speculation
that you know, there was personal reasons behind it or
just wanted to take time away, but Leslie Frasier leaving
the defensive coordinator just kind of flew under the radar.
It was kind of one of those oh, well, you
know he's and it's it's not like he's staying away
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from the game of football, like I've seen him do
work for NFL Network where he's on the sidelines. He
was at a Thursday night game a couple of weeks ago,
I think it was doing pregame work. Like it's so
I just wonder, you know, what's happening there, Like, is
there something going on with Sean McDermott. Maybe you know
he's not seeing Ida. I mean, you know, we're all
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speculating here, but it just and we've talked about this,
it just feels off. Something doesn't seem right. And I
just wonder if ownership there in Buffalo is like, look,
we got a franchise quarterback that we're giving franchise money to,
and it would be hoo of us to get the
most out of this guy, and we don't feel like
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maybe and look, the Chargers could find themselves in a
similar spot with Brandon Staley. Maybe a defensive head coach
isn't the best way to get the most out of
your quarterback. And maybe they look in the offseason to
go in a different direction to try and maximize Josh
Allen at the offense.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Just saying they've hit their ceiling. So if you're looking
at the ceiling as maybe the reason why you've hit
the ceiling is because of your coach, then maybe that's
a legitimate that's a legitimate way of approaching it. But
I don't see them trending up. This isn't a team
that we've looked at and you can see what they're
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doing on the field and you would say, yep, the
Bills are trending up. I think, if anything, the best
case scenario you could come up with as a conclusion
is that this is a team that's inconsistent. So you
may get a good Buffalo Bills team this weekend, you
may not. You may get the one that can win
the big game. You may not get the one that
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can win the big game. That's not a sign of
trending up, especially in November and October.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Let me ask you guys a question as players, and
I don't know if you ever found yourselves in this spot,
but I've always wondered if you're on the offensive side
or you're on the defensive side and your coordinator gets
fired mid season because you're struggling, do you feel like
crap afterwards?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Of course, like so this is of course.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You have a direct you have a direct impact on
that individual losener job. Typically the quarterback an offensive coordinator
are close, and so it you know, the funny thing is,
and I've been benched, you know, it's it's interesting when
you get benched because it's a partnership, like you're all
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working together as a team. And when you get benched
and you look at your offensive coordinator and they're not like,
you know, I really wish I could have put you
in a better position. I didn't do this well to
do that well, because because that's the thing is, when
it comes down to it, there's few cultures and teams
where everyone takes accountability. And I mean in a sense
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when when you have games, you come back. The best
coordinators that I've ever been around will talk about the
play calls they made that were bad. They will literally
point out on film and say, hey, guys, you know what,
this play call was not a good play call. I
thought I liked it for the situation. The defense gave
us something else. You know what, this player right here,
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this play work as this player build us out. I've
heard play callers say that in meetings. I literally want
to stand up and give them a standing ovation because
how many people in life are willing to do that,
are willing to say it was my job, my duty,
my responsibility, and I didn't put you in a position
to succeed and you did anyway or my bad, Like
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this is on me. Yeah, you guys can execute this play,
but guess what, I shouldn't have put you in that
position anyway, either as a head coach situationally or as
a play caller. And I've had a few do it.
But the problem is usually when you get benched, they're
not taking accountability at that point because they know there's
only one or two things. You know, your stand or
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their stand, it's not both when things aren't going right,
and they don't need to make a change. So it's
the tough thing is when you have a coach that
leaves in the NFL. I never had a coordinator move on.
I had a head coach get fired obviously when I
was in college, and that impacted me probably the biggest
way ever. Like when I was at Notre Dame, I
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went to play for Ty Willingham, and he was a
big reason why I went to play for him, as
the man he was and how he represented himself and
how honest he was with me, and just star relationship.
That hit me harder than anything else that I would
say in my entire athletics career. Because I chose to
go there, he chose me. There was that link, that partnership,
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and when they moved on from him, it hurt. Like
I was so ashamed of myself. Even to this day,
when I see coach Willingham, I usually at some point apologize,
and I've probably done it a number of times because
I felt so responsible for not being able to adapt
quick enough to the college game be the quarterback I
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was meant to be early in my career, and it
probably would have helped. If I could have read shirt,
it probably would have helped some of those things. Because
he plays a true freshman. It takes a little time
to mature and get accustomed everything at the college level,
but that hurt, and I remember, like the rest the way,
like always thinking to the back of my mind about
the relationship I had with my coach, my play call
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and everything else, because that's real. It's their livelihood that's
on the line. They aren't trusting all that in you,
and that's sometimes a heavyweight and heavy bird to carry,
but that's the reality of the situation.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, that's a rough spot, rough time for Ken Dorsey
and the Buffalo Bills. And now at five hundred, we'll
see how things pan out the rest of the way,
but not been a good start to the season there
in Buffalo, and maybe there'll be more changes after the year.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
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minutes from now there was listen, I felt like this
was appropriate. Last night somebody was punished for being a rat, right,
somebody who's punished for being a snitch and just you know,
basically trying to air somebody out and use that as
an excuse why they can't beat them. How about you know,
the College Football Playoff Committee dropping Ohio State a spot
to number two in the newest rankings just because they
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rated out Michigan for the old science. I'm gonna go
with you, Yeah, you know, we gotta drop him a spot.
I think.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I wish we had conspiracy theory music, Like, if only
we had it, I could go through because I do
think there was two As I put on my trench coat,
all right, if you're looking at the landscape of college
football and each of these Power five conferences, five there
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is the potential for chaos if you're looking at the
Big twelve. Texas is really the only shot. We've never
seen a two team or two lost team, excuse me,
make it into the college football playoffs. So Texas is
the Big twelve's last hope. They could drop a game
this week at Ames, crazy things happened in Iowas. I
always say, I can tell you that firsthand. But then
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you look at the ACC. Florida State not really a
rough schedule the rest of the way, but who knows,
who knows if they don't drop one here there, maybe
they lose to Louisville, who's presumed to be making their
way towards the ACC championship game. I think they would
potentially leave them on the outside looking in if they
could be a conference champ with one loss given out
week their schedule's been and the Pac twelve, do you
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know the last time we saw a team try to
do what Washington's trying to go undefeated in Pac twelve play?
You guys know what the last time we saw that
in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Was that twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Music the bit ran out?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You can't put that ish on repeat?
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Oh you could put it on that well, you know
Sam's gotta be watching it and then hit it as
soon as it hits Okay, he's got to watch. Make
sure he's watching. I can tell he's watching, and he's
focused the button. He's focused. The last time, in fact,
was when Cam played him Oregon.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
No never, in fact, as far as the conference called
the Pac twelve, it was Pac ten. Happened in twenty ten.
The Oregon Ducks for the last team to make it
through Pack twelve play unscathed. Okay, that's what Washington's trying
to do. And who do they play this week? Oregon State?
Beavis Man Corvalis.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Corvallis, I want to go to coval.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I think the College Football Playoff Committee is setting up
for the top two conferences, the SEC and the Big Ten,
to potentially get two teams in. All right, And initially
I thought it was maybe gonna be Ohio State. If
Ohio State was to potentially lose to Michigan up in
Ann Arbor, team who's beaten the last two years, one
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of the Big End championship the last two years, maybe
they would still hang around and sit there at number four.
Who knows, But now it appears if Alabama, who is
already punched their ticket to the SEC Championship game versus Georgia.
If Bama upset Georgia, Georgia out right and then Bama
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gets it, so they are your two teams from the season.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Come on, that's what I need.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Whatever's going to piss the most people off as we
wave goodbye to the four team Playoff, that's all I want.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I wonder how many people will be ticked off by
it only because it's the last year of it, Like
everyone's looking at next year, like, oh, thank god, We've
got the twelve team playoff, you know, Like I don't
know that that many people are gonna be as outraged
because they only have to look a year down the road.
I honestly like, if you're the Big Twelve and this
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is not me, I don't know any of this, and
I'm just kind of it's in my mind wandering. I'm
a curious person. Do you really want Texas, in the
final year of their partnership or existence in the Big
Twelve to win the Big Twelve Championship? I wonder how
many teams in the Big Twelve who will be staying
back when OU and Texas leave are kind of like, yeah,
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I'd love for them to lose, Like I'd love for
them to not be the team representing us in the
college football playoff.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, it just creates an awkward exit. I guess it's
going for.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
The Big Ten, it's going to be the same thing
that played out last year. Like, if you think about it,
one of the two powers are going to go to
the Big Ten Championship. They're going to win the Big
Ten Championship. They punched their ticket and the other one
is going to get in because they only have one loss. Right,
whether it's Michigan or Ohio State, both of them are
going to get in. I don't think either one of
(26:48):
them gets left out of the playoff. And then what
happens is Penn State wins out, Penn State wins out,
they get the bid to go to the Rose Bowl,
and they go spank the hell out of of whoever
wins the Pac Twelve. Like that's what happens. That's what's
that's it's going to be for the Big Ten. It's
going to be a repeat performance of what took place
last year. At least it's it's panning out to look
(27:11):
like that may happen because nobody's going to beat Ohio
State or Michigan except Ohio State or Michigan this year.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Like that's just that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
And I would assume that that outside of Rutgers, which
Rutgers has is a trap game for a reeling Penn
State team. Now I don't I don't see Michigan State
being that, but they certainly could struggle against Rutgers and
and that that would be a whole lot of interesting
(27:43):
implications out of that because if you know the history
of the coach, the head coach of Rutgers and Penn State,
and then it kind of a lot of people have
actually floated Shiano's name out there as a return back
to where he's come from. U But outside of Rutgers,
which I don't see them being able to pull that off.
(28:05):
You're talking about Penn State will win out, Ohio State
may win. I mean, they may or may not beat Michigan.
I think I think if out of the two teams,
I think the better team is Ohio State if I'm
looking at them, you know today.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
But either way, however you see.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
It, they're going to go play Iowa or Wisconsin in
the Big Ten Championship. And barring any type of catastrophic happening.
Michigan or Ohio State's going to win the Big Ten
and then you're gonna put Michigan in Ohio State in
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Who if we just like were to set aside, you know,
like projecting what could happen so on and so forth,
how far? Like who are the four best teams right now?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
For you guys?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Like if you're stacking the four best teams, who we got?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Oh, it's tough. I honestly still need like more time
to see some of these teams play. Like I want
to see like you need the three more weeks, man,
Like I want to see Oregon Washington square off again.
I want to see if Washington can make it through
the rest of their schedule and scape they got Oregon
State this week, Apple Cup next week. Washington State's kind
of falling off, but still it's a rivalry game. Never know,
(29:11):
I still need to see that, Like I would say,
the easy answer is Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, but I do.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Think both Pac twelve teams I mentioned, Washington and Oregon
are very right. There could be a part of it
in Texas. The only thing about Texas that bothers me.
And they just lost their top running back, Jonathan Brooks,
who's phenomenal and it kills me to like see that.
And the young man's put up stats similar to b
Jehn Robinson who just got drafted in the first round
by the Falcons, and that team def Anddre sweat Man,
(29:42):
my goodness, Like he's as impressive as you'll find as
a detackle in the country. Like they are stacked to
try to do something, and I just I'm not sure
with that injury how it hits them. They've got CJ.
Baxter and Jaden Blue and both those guys are studs.
But we'll well, we'll see what they look like the
rest of the season.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Yeah, I say they can't miss for is what you
you know, what you guys are saying is Alabama, Georgia
and Ohio State Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It would be interesting to see what if that's what
it came down to, how the committee would would stack that.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Up, because I don't think you have to justify anything,
to be honest. Depends on what happens with Alabama.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
They tried they try to avoid rematches. Yeah, and clearly,
like you wouldn't want to have a Georgia Alabama, Ohio
State Michigan. You know again rematch, although like the conspiracy
theory side of me, my mind wanders to if you're
ESPN and they obviously have the rights to this, and
not that they have any impact whatsoever on the actual
(30:41):
committee and what they decide. If it fell in your
lap to have Ohio State Michigan a game that you're
not ever going to have, right with the new Big
ten media rights deal and ESPN not being a part
of it, and outside of maybe a future matchup in
the playoff, you're kind of like, dude, this would be az.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
That's that's a ratings extravagant because the Harbor the Ryan Day.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Forget that High.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
State Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Ohio State man.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So like, forget the drama that you care about. Jonas Like,
it's the highest rated game in the regular season, So
to have that in a playoff scenario like that trumps all.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Of it, trumps it all.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
And if you had a rematch of the SEC championship
to figure out who's going to play for the national title,
that's gonna that's gonna be highly rated to Georgia Alabama, any.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
One of those matchups is going to be crazy ratings.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Man, they've struggled with the semi final ratings. And if
you put those two games on, come on, come on,
and I would even be upset about it.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
We gotta go, like that's how you want to know?
Speaker 7 (32:02):
How exciting that those two games would be those two
matchups to see who plays for we gotta go.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
We're going with tell Scott to send us we got
I love how We're.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Really going to do that the world.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm really going to do this. We're going to do it.
I'm not No, damn, I mean it's not. It ain't
good enough.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I mean no, damn, You're right.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I gotta live with that. I gotta live with it.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
What is it this ship? Is it that it's the
Rose and the Sugar? Is the championship games in Houston?
I believe? Right?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, championship games in Houston?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
So what does that mean for the Big ten and
the Pac twelve? Then if it's the Rose Bowl, what
does that mean? So you know you know what I mean, like,
what does that mean? Because that's annually that's who plays
and generally who play unless they make the play.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You so you skip that year. So I'm a part
of the Orange Bowl committee. It's not like you have
like a separate Rose Bowl. So that year then that
those those teams go elsewhere. So like you obviously you
have your conference affiliations, like in the Orange Bowl it's
the ACC and then it's the Big ten SEC and
the Notre Dame on the other side of it, and
(33:23):
you end up kind of pairing it together that way.
In a normal year when it's not you just you
have the two semi final.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Teams, it'd be pretty sweet.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
It's going to be a nightmare the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Michigan, Ohio State and the Rose That's going to be
a night in Alabama, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You're going to have to go get your parking space.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I actually I want this to happen. I know it's
not going to, but like to give someone the last
iteration of the four team playoff and say, yep, here
it is, You're like, oh God, that would be amazing.
That would be so sex And by the way, I
know there's a lot of Florida State fans are upset
right now because we didn't mention them as one of
the top four teams there. You know, Oregon Washing Texas, Like,
(34:03):
I get it. Those matchups are way more fun to
talk about and fantasize the palt than the rest.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
And let's just be clear here, if Florida State were
to match up with and I've been going like, man,
I've been going through it with my mob, you know,
at least a fake mob or whatever they are. Yeah,
I don't know, not today, but like going at us
over losingto to Ohio State Michigan.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Let's see.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Let's see Florida State play for Ohio State or Michigan.
Let's let's see one of the Let's see Texas play
Ohio State or Michigan.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Let's see what happens.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Let's see if you if you, if you mess around
and get what it is that you wished for, Let's
see them play against Georgia. What the harsh reality is
is when you see the programs that are resourced properly
and have what they have, you see the deficit.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
You see the deficit that exists there.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah it is uh.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
I cut that off super quick as I pinched it off. Yeah, listen,
I saw your hands go I saw your hands go up,
I saw walk out the room, and I see Sam's hair.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Starting to catch Sam's getting crazy, inged yes and singed.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
You know it's it's good that we've ten dollars.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
You're not even using any words.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Why why you just did the most passive aggressive thing ever.
Just now put your hands up, like like I have
no control over this show right now.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Okay, potentially go to it because you'll probably we'll get
you to the Rose.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
We're going to the Rose.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
How much would you gamble on it? Like would you
be willing to go food for a month?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Oh yeah, my entire family? Yeah, Like I'll just tell
I'll tell Andrew like, hey, man, I hope you like saltines,
because I'm gonna walk into restaurants, order a bowl of soup,
return it because there's a fly in it, and keep
all the saltines and the side plate like, yes.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
This is going to work.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, that's a great strike.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Look, there's priorities in life.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And if we can get Michigan, Ohio State and the
Rose Bowl and in the Sugar we get Alabama, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Everybody around me can kiss my ass. That's what we need.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Coming up next here, though, we are going to talk
about a disgusting habit in the NFL, and we've got
the details for you right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
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Speaker 1 (37:16):
Missed it, But now we turn it over to our
executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Lap.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
Good morning, everybody, more good mor good morning, LeVar Mord,
Brandy Morton.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Jonas guys.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
In case you missed it, Lions wide receiver Jamison Williams
revealed on his Instagram page a nasty eating habit or
a cheat meal. You can say that he enjoys that
being a mcdouble from McDonald's topped with an Oreo mcflurry.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Mean topped with like you put it on the sandwich.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
Yeah, like takes the top butt off and then he
puts the Oreo mcflurry on top of his sandwich.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
What is wrong with that, young man?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
I tried it. You would try.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I mean, I'll try anything.
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Ready that makes you, guys subscribe to like secret menu items?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Or do you ever not like.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
That secret menu items?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Lee really, for some reason knows a lot about when
we were at the hotel for Super Bowl week, like
he found he went and navigated the website and found
that they had secret menu drinks like a surprised beer
in a brown bat and they.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Do that at breweries.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
They don't do that everywhere.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Gave you the worst cheapest beer in that brown bat.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
I remember when we were doing that, though, they would
send it to him right and.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
To get rid of it.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Yeah, and then there's like two weeks later they sent
him the same exactly when they sent him in.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
The first week.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Like what the hell, by the way, what was what
a professional? He's a producer for a national radio show.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
He's drinking beer out of a brown bag during super
Bowl week.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
That's what he is. Yeah, on inside, baby, just let
it ride.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
My McDonald's menu item, by the way, is a mcdumpster.
That's when you take It's when you split your mcdouble
and you also get a McChicken and you take the McChicken.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
You put that in between the mcdouble.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Is that that's a real thing, not a real item.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
He's got to do it. He's got to buy a
McChicken and a mcdouble and do that. Yep, you do,
but they will do it for you if you have.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Are they serving anything other than breakfast at McDonald's right now?
Because if anybody's listening, if you can pull that off
and order a mcdumpster, send us a tweet, a picture
and credit.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Lead to lap.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
If you can a mcdumpster. Unbelievable, unbelievable you are.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
It sounds like an Irish homeless guy here. You go
back to your obsession.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
You know, twenty years from now, if we're still living,
we're going to see you walking around with a shopping cart.
I'm telling you, I think it's I think it's your
ultimate goal in life that.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Ends up there.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yes, yeah, yeah, what else we got, guys?
Speaker 9 (40:11):
We often talked about whether or not there's real fights
in the NBA. Did you guys catch Draymond greening?
Speaker 7 (40:18):
All them people acting like they about that smoke? Draymond
was the only one that had his arm around somebody's neck.
Towns was behind Draymond. Ain't nobody want no smoke except Draymond?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Come on, yeh
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fall guy in Buffalo that was Ken Dorsey, the latest
college football playoff rankings, potentially a conspiracy, and a college
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Speaker 4 (01:54):
Is this a new song?
Speaker 5 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
I thought it was gonna start growing me for a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I think it didn't yet. No, no, no, is it okay?
Is it actually the worst song you've ever heard?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
No, it's that is that's hyperbole. It's that's a little
over the top. It's not quite the worst song I've
ever heard, but it's up.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
There, bottom ten. It's up there, bottom.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Ten, i'd say bottom fifty. There's a lot of music
out there.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Okay, that's true.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That is. The other thing is is you can have
a great song, but if the person performing isn't very good,
it can ruin it too.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
So yeah, well, there's a lot of studio artists who
take their show on the road and it's like you
can tell they need they need a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Going on, a lot of tune or whatever else going on.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's the one thing I'll give post Malone credit for.
He always says, man, if it wasn't for auto tune,
I don't know where I'd be. He's like, he writes
his stuff and he's very creative, and he's and he's
talented as hell, but he always says, man, if not
for auto tune, he's I can't sing like.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
It just is what it is. I can't do it
all right.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So remember years ago when you know, Chris Carter was
talking to a bunch of rookies and he was telling them, hey,
you gotta have a fall guy.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
The NFL Syposium.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Yeah, just like y'all got a crew, got to get
yourselves a fall guy.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, the Buffalo Bills guy.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Got a crew. You got to have a fall guy.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Thank you, Chris. Where's he been, by the way, but.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
Somewhere.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, the Buffalo Bills, they've got a crew.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And they identified their fall guy and it was offensive
coordinator Ken Dorsey.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Just another awful performance by the offense in Buffalo, and
just an awful performance by them in general, all the turnovers.
Something's not right. They're now a five hundred football team
and on the outside looking in in the AFC playoffs.
And so they decided yesterday they were going to make
a change, and that change was the firing of offensive
coordinator Ken Dorsey.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So he is gone. In goes Joe Brady.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
The coquarterbacks coach there to work with Josh Allen and company,
and the head coach of the Buffalo Bill Sean McDermott,
spoke about the decision and the expectations of Josh Allen
moving forward.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
I just felt this was the right time. Certainly unfortunate situation,
but overall, trying to instill some new energy in our offense,
new confidence and new consistency in terms of the production
producing at a more consistent level. So whether it was
predictable not predictable, you know, I certainly have my opinions overall.
Keep those in the house from now. Josh and I
speak daily. This decision was made by me and me alone.
(04:31):
Beyond that, it's Josh's responsibility in job to come out
and help coach Brady form like the game plan and
come out and execute the game plan and take care
of the football and lead our offense more than anything.
Speaker 6 (04:43):
Well, that'll do it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Offensive coordinator change if you want to change the turnover
problem there apparently.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
So this is a classic study of when things go wrong,
who takes the blame, and typically it's your head coach
and your quarterback. Okay, and there's a few different pressure points.
When you're a head coach and you're taking on water,
you're taking blame, right, and that ship is starting to
sink a little bit, right, you have to do something
(05:13):
you're not gonna You're not gonna fire yourself obviously, and
so your move is one of two things you either
bench your quarterback not gonna do. In this case, it's
Josh Allen he's paid. He's your best player, Like he's
really a lot of times your only chance you having
games on winning given how banged up the defense is
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right now, the lack of a running game, at least
a consistent running game, and your next best player, Stefan
Diggs is reliant on Josh Allen getting him the ball.
So Josh Allen's by far and away your best player.
It gives you the best shot of winning. So he's
not getting benched. And so you can fire a coach. Now,
(05:55):
you can't fire the defensive coordinator because that's Sean McDermott.
I mean he's taking over for Leslie Frickscher. Fire himself, No,
of course not. So there sits squarely is Ken Dorsey
their offensive coordinator. And the interesting thing to me is,
if you go back, I think a recent history twenty
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twenty one, the Bills in week nine through fourteen went
through this same exact stint. When I say same exact,
I mean I gave you guys the stats last night
in the notes they were two and four from weeks
nine to fourteen and twenty twenty one, they had thirteen turnovers.
Offensively in that time, they were averaging about three hundred
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and sixty yards per game and twenty two points per game.
Right now, during this six game stretch weeks five through ten,
they're two and four. They've had thirteen turnovers, they averaged
three hundred and fifty six yards per game and twenty
one points. It's almost identical statistically. What has happen happened?
(07:00):
So what took place? Back in twenty twenty one? Brian
Dable was their offense coordinator, now the head coach with
the New York Giants. They didn't fire him, They stuck
with them, and they came out on their other side.
They won their next five games, which included a wild
card playoff game after that week nine through fourteenth stint
in twenty twenty one, So I'm just wondering, why doesn't
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Ken Dorsey get the same consideration? You know, do they
feel like this offense is that drastically different than you know,
what they have with Brian Dable. I'll tell you this much.
If you compare the defenses from twenty twenty one in
that span and twenty twenty three.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Uh oh.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
In twenty twenty one, the defense got four more turnovers
in that span. Right now, they've only got four turnovers
in the past six games, so the turnover margins minus nine.
If you look back on how many yards per game
the defense was giving up back in twenty four, three
hundred and twelve yards, they're giving up almost fifty yards
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more per game now defensively, and they're giving up about
two more points per game as well, which it doesn't
seem like a lot, but in the NFL standards a
lot of times that's the difference between winning and losing.
So the crazy thing is it's actually the defensive struggles
that have combined with the lack of offensive production, led
to this. But if you're Sean McDermott, you're not gonna
(08:23):
fire yourself. Leslie Fraser already left, and so who you
point at, Ken Dorsey? You find a fall guy, you
find a scapegoat. That's what this is. Because the truth
of the matter is, and I look at this as
a player, all pieces involved in the offense are part
of this. So it's not even just Josh Allen, I
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mean James Cook had two, had two. I mean the
opening play and then you go look at the exchange.
I don't know if you put that on Josh Allen
or James Cook you're both responsible, right, and then the
interceptions as well. So the sad thing is because of
the lack of execution by a player and a lot
of players in this case. And then what's happening to
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their team. Their defense is decimated with injuries and they
go through this two and four stretch. Sean McDermott feels
the pressure and then has to do something, So he
fires his offensive coordinator and they hired Joe Brady, who
didn't even make it through his tenure there with the
Carolina Panthers. He got into year two under Matt Rulin,
got fired before the season was over, and so it's
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a lot of pressure on a young guy. He doesn't
have a ton of play calling experience. He was there
with Joe Burrow in LSU. It's where he kind of
got his name. And now he moves into a major
position where he's got to finish out a team that's
trying to make it back to the playoffs with a
tough schedule.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Oh know, man, it's like trying to decipher if you
see poor, poor execution, then you see a team that
has been given such high expectations not reach them. How
how you how you managed to pinpoint where the first
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fall guy, where the first domino that goes down? Is
I mean, if I'm McDermott, I am nervous, I am
I am feeling the pressure of it because this is
this is one of those those moments in time where
you're probably going to have critics saying this team has
hit its ceiling.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Do you does this move make you rethink whether or
not McDermott is on the hot seat as we talked
about yesterday.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
Not to lose his job this year, which I think,
I think there's more relevance to you saying it. You
saying it, there's more relevance to it now. There's more
relevance to it now. But I don't think that that
would be What would happen feel like?
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Can I ask your question?
Speaker 6 (10:44):
I mean, if it ends if it ends bad?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Sure.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
When you saw the Pagoulas because I know they're heavily
involved with Penn.
Speaker 6 (10:51):
State, I only saw one and I saw the husband.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Okay, yes, Well, I'm just saying you saw that, and
what happens when things workout and happy value who gets clipped?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
That was crazy? Man?
Speaker 7 (11:03):
That might I mean, there could be a correlation. It
might not be a pattern behavior, it might be a
correlation here.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
I mean, yeah, like you you had an offense that
wasn't performing. You've got a big time donor and support
of a university in a program, and who gets clipped
the offensive coordinator and then now you've got the owner
of a franchise that donor.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
Yeah, and their offensive coordinator got clipped.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It changed my mind, Like I didn't think there was
any possibility, And now with this decision, I'm like, Oh,
they're really they really feeling the pressure from this.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I mean, I mean, if there's correlations, the difference.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Is Penn State will win out and then they'll end
up going and I think going off and winning their
bowl game. And so it's a little different. Like Buffalo's
got a difficult track the rest of the way and schedule.
You know, we talked about this yesterday, like how many
games they need to win for us to feel like
they're a playoff team? Five?
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Probably?
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, So that's what I right.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
So that's to your question and to to Q's point, Jonas, Yeah,
I mean it does seem like it has a tap
bit more relevancy, a little bit more bite to it.
Knowing that you know they're letting guys.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Go, especially when you lay out the defensive struggles and look,
I don't know if there was there was some speculation
that you know, there was personal reasons behind it or
just wanted to take time away, but Leslie Frasier leaving
the defensive coordinator just kind of flew under the radar.
It was kind of one of those oh, well, you
know he's and it's it's not like he's staying away
(12:46):
from the game of football, like I've seen him do
work for NFL Network where he's on the sidelines. He
was at a Thursday night game a couple of weeks ago,
I think it was doing pregame work. Like it's so
I just wonder, you know, what's happening there, Like, is
there something going on with Sean McDermott. Maybe you know
he's not seeing Ida. I mean, you know, we're all
(13:07):
speculating here, but it just and we've talked about this,
it just feels off. Something doesn't seem right. And I
just wonder if ownership there in Buffalo is like, look,
we got a franchise quarterback that we're giving franchise money to,
and it would be hoo of us to get the
most out of this guy, and we don't feel like
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maybe and look, the Chargers could find themselves in a
similar spot with Brandon Staley. Maybe a defensive head coach
isn't the best way to get the most out of
your quarterback. And maybe they look in the offseason to
go in a different direction to try and maximize Josh
Allen at the offense.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Just saying they've hit their ceiling. So if you're looking
at the ceiling as maybe the reason why you've hit
the ceiling is because of your coach, then maybe that's
a legitimate that's a legitimate way of approaching it. But
I don't see them trending up. This isn't a team
that we've looked at and you can see what they're
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doing on the field and you would say, yep, the
Bills are trending up. I think, if anything, the best
case scenario you could come up with as a conclusion
is that this is a team that's inconsistent. So you
may get a good Buffalo Bills team this weekend, you
may not. You may get the one that can win
the big game. You may not get the one that
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can win the big game. That's not a sign of
trending up, especially in November and October.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Let me ask you guys a question as players, and
I don't know if you ever found yourselves in this spot,
but I've always wondered if you're on the offensive side
or you're on the defensive side and your coordinator gets
fired mid season because you're struggling, do you feel like
crap afterwards?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Of course, like so this is of course.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You have a direct you have a direct impact on
that individual losener job. Typically the quarterback an offensive coordinator
are close, and so it you know, the funny thing is,
and I've been benched, you know, it's it's interesting when
you get benched because it's a partnership, like you're all
(15:14):
working together as a team. And when you get benched
and you look at your offensive coordinator and they're not like,
you know, I really wish I could have put you
in a better position. I didn't do this well to
do that well, because because that's the thing is, when
it comes down to it, there's few cultures and teams
where everyone takes accountability. And I mean in a sense
(15:34):
when when you have games, you come back. The best
coordinators that I've ever been around will talk about the
play calls they made that were bad. They will literally
point out on film and say, hey, guys, you know what,
this play call was not a good play call. I
thought I liked it for the situation. The defense gave
us something else. You know what, this player right here,
(15:55):
this play work as this player build us out. I've
heard play callers say that in meetings. I literally want
to stand up and give them a standing ovation because
how many people in life are willing to do that,
are willing to say it was my job, my duty,
my responsibility, and I didn't put you in a position
to succeed and you did anyway or my bad, Like
(16:18):
this is on me. Yeah, you guys can execute this play,
but guess what, I shouldn't have put you in that
position anyway, either as a head coach situationally or as
a play caller. And I've had a few do it.
But the problem is usually when you get benched, they're
not taking accountability at that point because they know there's
only one or two things. You know, your stand or
(16:39):
their stand, it's not both when things aren't going right,
and they don't need to make a change. So it's
the tough thing is when you have a coach that
leaves in the NFL. I never had a coordinator move on.
I had a head coach get fired obviously when I
was in college, and that impacted me probably the biggest
way ever. Like when I was at Notre Dame, I
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went to play for Ty Willingham, and he was a
big reason why I went to play for him, as
the man he was and how he represented himself and
how honest he was with me, and just star relationship.
That hit me harder than anything else that I would
say in my entire athletics career. Because I chose to
go there, he chose me. There was that link, that partnership,
(17:23):
and when they moved on from him, it hurt. Like
I was so ashamed of myself. Even to this day,
when I see coach Willingham, I usually at some point apologize,
and I've probably done it a number of times because
I felt so responsible for not being able to adapt
quick enough to the college game be the quarterback I
(17:44):
was meant to be early in my career, and it
probably would have helped. If I could have read shirt,
it probably would have helped some of those things. Because
he plays a true freshman. It takes a little time
to mature and get accustomed everything at the college level,
but that hurt, and I remember, like the rest the way,
like always thinking to the back of my mind about
the relationship I had with my coach, my play call
(18:04):
and everything else, because that's real. It's their livelihood that's
on the line. They aren't trusting all that in you,
and that's sometimes a heavyweight and heavy bird to carry,
but that's the reality of the situation.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, that's a rough spot, rough time for Ken Dorsey
and the Buffalo Bills. And now at five hundred, we'll
see how things pan out the rest of the way,
but not been a good start to the season there
in Buffalo, and maybe there'll be more changes after the year.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
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Speaker 7 (20:19):
Buffalo Soldier.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Dreadlock rasta see.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I'm getting mine back?
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, see what I'm getting back right now?
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Soft lotion Ham Why I'm talking about him? From Africa
broad to America. Fighting on the arrival, Yeah, fighting for survival.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
No, I mean it's when I unanalyes this game Brown
fight you.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I was just gonna say over that, bru, don't know,
don't ever play around with Uncle Bob.
Speaker 6 (21:04):
B don't don't.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
Don't ever play around with Uncle Bob like that. You'll
catch a drop kick.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
To the head on fear Factory thinks differently, you know, direct, Yeah,
you got some nerve.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Jonas Knox.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
Got some nerves off death boys. Just a soft loation
hand boy talking about Uncle Bob. You got some nerve rubs.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
On its skin. It us this whenever it's.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Toll speaking of Buffalo, speaking up Buffalo, Buffalo Bill. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports
Radio Tabari Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you, by
the way, coming up less than twenty minutes from now
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we'll give the details to you here less than twenty
(21:53):
minutes from now there was listen, I felt like this
was appropriate. Last night somebody was punished for being a rat, right,
somebody who's punished for being a snitch and just you know,
basically trying to air somebody out and use that as
an excuse why they can't beat them. How about you know,
the College Football Playoff Committee dropping Ohio State a spot
to number two in the newest rankings just because they
(22:15):
rated out Michigan for the old science. I'm gonna go
with you, Yeah, you know, we gotta drop him a spot.
I think.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I wish we had conspiracy theory music, Like, if only
we had it, I could go through because I do
think there was two As I put on my trench coat,
all right, if you're looking at the landscape of college
football and each of these Power five conferences, five there
(22:50):
is the potential for chaos if you're looking at the
Big twelve. Texas is really the only shot. We've never
seen a two team or two lost team, excuse me,
make it into the college football playoffs. So Texas is
the Big twelve's last hope. They could drop a game
this week at Ames, crazy things happened in Iowas. I
always say, I can tell you that firsthand. But then
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you look at the ACC. Florida State not really a
rough schedule the rest of the way, but who knows,
who knows if they don't drop one here there, maybe
they lose to Louisville, who's presumed to be making their
way towards the ACC championship game. I think they would
potentially leave them on the outside looking in if they
could be a conference champ with one loss given out
week their schedule's been and the Pac twelve, do you
(23:35):
know the last time we saw a team try to
do what Washington's trying to go undefeated in Pac twelve play?
You guys know what the last time we saw that
in the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Was that twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Music the bit ran out?
Speaker 4 (23:54):
You can't put that ish on repeat?
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Oh you could put it on that well, you know
Sam's gotta be watching it and then hit it as
soon as it hits Okay, he's got to watch. Make
sure he's watching. I can tell he's watching, and he's
focused the button. He's focused. The last time, in fact,
was when Cam played him Oregon.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
No never, in fact, as far as the conference called
the Pac twelve, it was Pac ten. Happened in twenty ten.
The Oregon Ducks for the last team to make it
through Pack twelve play unscathed. Okay, that's what Washington's trying
to do. And who do they play this week? Oregon State?
Beavis Man Corvalis.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Corvallis, I want to go to coval.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I think the College Football Playoff Committee is setting up
for the top two conferences, the SEC and the Big Ten,
to potentially get two teams in. All right, And initially
I thought it was maybe gonna be Ohio State. If
Ohio State was to potentially lose to Michigan up in
Ann Arbor, team who's beaten the last two years, one
(24:59):
of the Big End championship the last two years, maybe
they would still hang around and sit there at number four.
Who knows, But now it appears if Alabama, who is
already punched their ticket to the SEC Championship game versus Georgia.
If Bama upset Georgia, Georgia out right and then Bama
(25:22):
gets it, so they are your two teams from the season.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Come on, that's what I need.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Whatever's going to piss the most people off as we
wave goodbye to the four team Playoff, that's all I want.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I wonder how many people will be ticked off by
it only because it's the last year of it, Like
everyone's looking at next year, like, oh, thank god, We've
got the twelve team playoff, you know, Like I don't
know that that many people are gonna be as outraged
because they only have to look a year down the road.
I honestly like, if you're the Big Twelve and this
(25:56):
is not me, I don't know any of this, and
I'm just kind of it's in my mind wandering. I'm
a curious person. Do you really want Texas, in the
final year of their partnership or existence in the Big
Twelve to win the Big Twelve Championship? I wonder how
many teams in the Big Twelve who will be staying
back when OU and Texas leave are kind of like, yeah,
(26:18):
I'd love for them to lose, Like I'd love for
them to not be the team representing us in the
college football playoff.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah, it just creates an awkward exit. I guess it's
going for.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
The Big Ten, it's going to be the same thing
that played out last year. Like, if you think about it,
one of the two powers are going to go to
the Big Ten Championship. They're going to win the Big
Ten Championship. They punched their ticket and the other one
is going to get in because they only have one loss. Right,
whether it's Michigan or Ohio State, both of them are
going to get in. I don't think either one of
(26:48):
them gets left out of the playoff. And then what
happens is Penn State wins out, Penn State wins out,
they get the bid to go to the Rose Bowl,
and they go spank the hell out of of whoever
wins the Pac Twelve. Like that's what happens. That's what's
that's it's going to be for the Big Ten. It's
going to be a repeat performance of what took place
last year. At least it's it's panning out to look
(27:11):
like that may happen because nobody's going to beat Ohio
State or Michigan except Ohio State or Michigan this year.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Like that's just that's what it is.
Speaker 7 (27:21):
And I would assume that that outside of Rutgers, which
Rutgers has is a trap game for a reeling Penn
State team. Now I don't I don't see Michigan State
being that, but they certainly could struggle against Rutgers and
and that that would be a whole lot of interesting
(27:43):
implications out of that because if you know the history
of the coach, the head coach of Rutgers and Penn State,
and then it kind of a lot of people have
actually floated Shiano's name out there as a return back
to where he's come from. U But outside of Rutgers,
which I don't see them being able to pull that off.
(28:05):
You're talking about Penn State will win out, Ohio State
may win. I mean, they may or may not beat Michigan.
I think I think if out of the two teams,
I think the better team is Ohio State if I'm
looking at them, you know today.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
But either way, however you see.
Speaker 7 (28:22):
It, they're going to go play Iowa or Wisconsin in
the Big Ten Championship. And barring any type of catastrophic happening.
Michigan or Ohio State's going to win the Big Ten
and then you're gonna put Michigan in Ohio State in
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Who if we just like were to set aside, you know,
like projecting what could happen so on and so forth,
how far? Like who are the four best teams right now?
Speaker 4 (28:46):
For you guys?
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Like if you're stacking the four best teams, who we got?
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Oh, it's tough. I honestly still need like more time
to see some of these teams play. Like I want
to see like you need the three more weeks, man,
Like I want to see Oregon Washington square off again.
I want to see if Washington can make it through
the rest of their schedule and scape they got Oregon
State this week, Apple Cup next week. Washington State's kind
of falling off, but still it's a rivalry game. Never know,
(29:11):
I still need to see that, Like I would say,
the easy answer is Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Alabama.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, but I do.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Think both Pac twelve teams I mentioned, Washington and Oregon
are very right. There could be a part of it
in Texas. The only thing about Texas that bothers me.
And they just lost their top running back, Jonathan Brooks,
who's phenomenal and it kills me to like see that.
And the young man's put up stats similar to b
Jehn Robinson who just got drafted in the first round
by the Falcons, and that team def Anddre sweat Man,
(29:42):
my goodness, Like he's as impressive as you'll find as
a detackle in the country. Like they are stacked to
try to do something, and I just I'm not sure
with that injury how it hits them. They've got CJ.
Baxter and Jaden Blue and both those guys are studs.
But we'll well, we'll see what they look like the
rest of the season.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Yeah, I say they can't miss for is what you
you know, what you guys are saying is Alabama, Georgia
and Ohio State Michigan.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
It would be interesting to see what if that's what
it came down to, how the committee would would stack that.
Speaker 7 (30:13):
Up, because I don't think you have to justify anything,
to be honest. Depends on what happens with Alabama.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
They tried they try to avoid rematches. Yeah, and clearly,
like you wouldn't want to have a Georgia Alabama, Ohio
State Michigan. You know again rematch, although like the conspiracy
theory side of me, my mind wanders to if you're
ESPN and they obviously have the rights to this, and
not that they have any impact whatsoever on the actual
(30:41):
committee and what they decide. If it fell in your
lap to have Ohio State Michigan a game that you're
not ever going to have, right with the new Big
ten media rights deal and ESPN not being a part
of it, and outside of maybe a future matchup in
the playoff, you're kind of like, dude, this would be az.
Speaker 7 (31:00):
That's that's a ratings extravagant because the Harbor the Ryan Day.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Forget that High.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
State Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Ohio State man.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
So like, forget the drama that you care about. Jonas Like,
it's the highest rated game in the regular season, So
to have that in a playoff scenario like that trumps all.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Of it, trumps it all.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
And if you had a rematch of the SEC championship
to figure out who's going to play for the national title,
that's gonna that's gonna be highly rated to Georgia Alabama, any.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
One of those matchups is going to be crazy ratings.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Man, they've struggled with the semi final ratings. And if
you put those two games on, come on, come on,
and I would even be upset about it.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
We gotta go, like that's how you want to know?
Speaker 7 (32:02):
How exciting that those two games would be those two
matchups to see who plays for we gotta go.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
We're going with tell Scott to send us we got
I love how We're.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
Really going to do that the world.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I'm really going to do this. We're going to do it.
I'm not No, damn, I mean it's not. It ain't
good enough.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Damn.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I mean no, damn, You're right.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I gotta live with that. I gotta live with it.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
You're right?
Speaker 4 (32:33):
What is it this ship? Is it that it's the
Rose and the Sugar? Is the championship games in Houston?
I believe? Right?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, championship games in Houston?
Speaker 7 (32:44):
So what does that mean for the Big ten and
the Pac twelve? Then if it's the Rose Bowl, what
does that mean? So you know you know what I mean, like,
what does that mean? Because that's annually that's who plays
and generally who play unless they make the play.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You so you skip that year. So I'm a part
of the Orange Bowl committee. It's not like you have
like a separate Rose Bowl. So that year then that
those those teams go elsewhere. So like you obviously you
have your conference affiliations, like in the Orange Bowl it's
the ACC and then it's the Big ten SEC and
the Notre Dame on the other side of it, and
(33:23):
you end up kind of pairing it together that way.
In a normal year when it's not you just you
have the two semi final.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Teams, it'd be pretty sweet.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
It's going to be a nightmare the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Michigan, Ohio State and the Rose That's going to be
a night in Alabama, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You're going to have to go get your parking space.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
I actually I want this to happen. I know it's
not going to, but like to give someone the last
iteration of the four team playoff and say, yep, here
it is, You're like, oh God, that would be amazing.
That would be so sex And by the way, I
know there's a lot of Florida State fans are upset
right now because we didn't mention them as one of
the top four teams there. You know, Oregon Washing Texas, Like,
(34:03):
I get it. Those matchups are way more fun to
talk about and fantasize the palt than the rest.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
And let's just be clear here, if Florida State were
to match up with and I've been going like, man,
I've been going through it with my mob, you know,
at least a fake mob or whatever they are. Yeah,
I don't know, not today, but like going at us
over losingto to Ohio State Michigan.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Let's see.
Speaker 7 (34:30):
Let's see Florida State play for Ohio State or Michigan.
Let's let's see one of the Let's see Texas play
Ohio State or Michigan.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
Let's see what happens.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Let's see if you if you, if you mess around
and get what it is that you wished for, Let's
see them play against Georgia. What the harsh reality is
is when you see the programs that are resourced properly
and have what they have, you see the deficit.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
You see the deficit that exists there.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah it is uh.
Speaker 7 (35:04):
I cut that off super quick as I pinched it off. Yeah, listen,
I saw your hands go I saw your hands go up,
I saw walk out the room, and I see Sam's hair.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Starting to catch Sam's getting crazy, inged yes and singed.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
You know it's it's good that we've ten dollars.
Speaker 6 (35:21):
You're not even using any words.
Speaker 7 (35:23):
Why why you just did the most passive aggressive thing ever.
Just now put your hands up, like like I have
no control over this show right now.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Okay, potentially go to it because you'll probably we'll get
you to the Rose.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
We're going to the Rose.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
How much would you gamble on it? Like would you
be willing to go food for a month?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Oh yeah, my entire family? Yeah, Like I'll just tell
I'll tell Andrew like, hey, man, I hope you like saltines,
because I'm gonna walk into restaurants, order a bowl of soup,
return it because there's a fly in it, and keep
all the saltines and the side plate like, yes.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
This is going to work.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, that's a great strike.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Look, there's priorities in life.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And if we can get Michigan, Ohio State and the
Rose Bowl and in the Sugar we get Alabama, Georgia.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Everybody around me can kiss my ass. That's what we need.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Coming up next here, though, we are going to talk
about a disgusting habit in the NFL, and we've got
the details for you right here on FSR.
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Speaker 1 (37:16):
Missed it, But now we turn it over to our
executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Lap.
Speaker 9 (37:21):
Good morning, everybody, more good mor good morning, LeVar Mord,
Brandy Morton.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Jonas guys.
Speaker 9 (37:29):
In case you missed it, Lions wide receiver Jamison Williams
revealed on his Instagram page a nasty eating habit or
a cheat meal. You can say that he enjoys that
being a mcdouble from McDonald's topped with an Oreo mcflurry.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Mean topped with like you put it on the sandwich.
Speaker 9 (37:47):
Yeah, like takes the top butt off and then he
puts the Oreo mcflurry on top of his sandwich.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
What is wrong with that, young man?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
I tried it. You would try.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
I mean, I'll try anything.
Speaker 9 (38:00):
Ready that makes you, guys subscribe to like secret menu items?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Or do you ever not like.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
That secret menu items?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Lee really, for some reason knows a lot about when
we were at the hotel for Super Bowl week, like
he found he went and navigated the website and found
that they had secret menu drinks like a surprised beer
in a brown bat and they.
Speaker 7 (38:23):
Do that at breweries.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
They don't do that everywhere.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Gave you the worst cheapest beer in that brown bat.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
I remember when we were doing that, though, they would
send it to him right and.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
To get rid of it.
Speaker 7 (38:39):
Yeah, and then there's like two weeks later they sent
him the same exactly when they sent him in.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
The first week.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Like what the hell, by the way, what was what
a professional? He's a producer for a national radio show.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
He's drinking beer out of a brown bag during super
Bowl week.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
That's what he is. Yeah, on inside, baby, just let
it ride.
Speaker 9 (39:05):
My McDonald's menu item, by the way, is a mcdumpster.
That's when you take It's when you split your mcdouble
and you also get a McChicken and you take the McChicken.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
You put that in between the mcdouble.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Is that that's a real thing, not a real item.
Speaker 7 (39:23):
He's got to do it. He's got to buy a
McChicken and a mcdouble and do that. Yep, you do,
but they will do it for you if you have.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Are they serving anything other than breakfast at McDonald's right now?
Because if anybody's listening, if you can pull that off
and order a mcdumpster, send us a tweet, a picture
and credit.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Lead to lap.
Speaker 7 (39:45):
If you can a mcdumpster. Unbelievable, unbelievable you are.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
It sounds like an Irish homeless guy here. You go
back to your obsession.
Speaker 7 (39:58):
You know, twenty years from now, if we're still living,
we're going to see you walking around with a shopping cart.
I'm telling you, I think it's I think it's your
ultimate goal in life that.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Ends up there.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yes, yeah, yeah, what else we got, guys?
Speaker 9 (40:11):
We often talked about whether or not there's real fights
in the NBA. Did you guys catch Draymond greening?
Speaker 7 (40:18):
All them people acting like they about that smoke? Draymond
was the only one that had his arm around somebody's neck.
Towns was behind Draymond. Ain't nobody want no smoke except Draymond?
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Come on, yeh
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